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Today's story features a family man
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with a rock solid retirement plan,
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a son who spent nine years pretending to be a med student
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and a Thanksgiving reunion that went,
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well, off the rails is an understatement.
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We're talking life insurance policies,
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handwritten checklists that read like a psychopath's
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shopping spree and a crime scene that made
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seasoned officers gag.
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In the center of it all, a quiet, unassuming guy
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with zero job experience, but a PhD in betrayal.
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Buckle up because this one's got layers,
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but none of them are good.
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Welcome to 10 Minute Murder.
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Get killing knives, get sledgehammer,
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bring food grinder, get bleach.
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Sounds like it's twisted to do list
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of a Hollywood villain, right?
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Except this isn't fiction.
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This is verbatim from the actual notes
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of Joel Michael Guy Jr., a man preparing to commit
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to heinous murders.
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These weren't random acts of violence.
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They were methodical, calculated, and rooted in betrayal.
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The victims, his own parents, Joel Michael Guy Sr.,
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a respected pipeline engineering designer,
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and Lisa Guy, a devoted wife of 31 years.
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Their love story had blended families.
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Joel Sr. brought three daughters from a previous marriage,
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and Lisa warmly welcomed them into her life.
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Soon the couple added a child of their own,
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a son named Joel Michael Guy Jr., affectionately called
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Joel Michael by the family.
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For most of the marriage, Joel Sr.'s lucrative career
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allowed Lisa to focus on raising their son,
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and by all accounts, she threw herself into motherhood
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with everything she had.
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Lisa adored Joel Michael, who grew up quiet, reserved,
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and seemingly content.
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He lacked for nothing, thanks to Lisa's dedication.
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When the time came for college,
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Lisa didn't hesitate to return to the workforce,
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taking a job as a human resources accounts administrator.
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Nearly her entire paycheck went towards supporting Joel
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Michael's education, covering everything
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from tuition to living expenses.
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From the outside, this might have seemed like a parenting win.
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Joel Michael was enrolled at George Washington University,
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pursuing his dream of becoming a plastic surgeon.
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His bills were paid, and he had this space and support
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to focus entirely on his studies.
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What more could a young man ask for?
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But as we'll see, life isn't always what it seems.
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Life was finally settling into a peaceful rhythm
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for Joel Guy Sr. and Lisa.
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With their son Joel Michael out of the house
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and supposedly building his future,
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the couple could finally focus on themselves,
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hiking, days out on the water,
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and doting on their growing brood of grandchildren
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filled their time.
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A well-earned reward after decades of hard work and sacrifice.
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But life, as that often does, had other plans.
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Joel Sr. at 61 lost the prestigious job
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that had long been the foundation of their financial stability.
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Faced with an uncertain future, the couple made a decision
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rather than re-enter the workforce, Joel would retire.
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They had savings, retirement plans,
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and a shared vision for the next phase of their lives.
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They would sell their Knoxville Tennessee home
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and move to Surgunsville.
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You know, I'm probably not saying that right,
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but it's a place close to Joel's heart
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where they could spend their golden years.
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It was a thoughtful practical plan
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except for one glaring complication.
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For nearly a decade, Joel Michael had been a full grown adult,
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living a life subsidized by his parents.
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At 28, he was still working on his dream
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of becoming a plastic surgeon.
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A dream that had, in reality,
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fizzled just after one semester
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at George Washington University.
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He dropped out, failed to find direction
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and never held a job.
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Instead, he depended entirely on the money
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Lisa earned to fund his lifestyle.
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For Joel Sr. and Lisa, retiring meant one unavoidable consequence,
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financially cutting off their son.
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Lisa's salary, which had been Joel Michael's lifeline for years,
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would no longer be available.
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It was time for him to stand on his own two feet,
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a reality that they openly discussed
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with his half-sisters over Thanksgiving in 2016.
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Joel Michael had already been given the news.
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His parents had been clear.
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He had several months to figure out how to support himself.
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By all appearances, he took the announcement and stride,
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but appearances, as we've learned, can be deceiving.
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Beneath his quiet, reclusive exterior,
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something far darker was brewing.
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Joel Michael wasn't just brooding
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over his impending financial independence.
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He had a plan.
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He knew his parents had life insurance policies.
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Each of them worth $500,000.
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If one parent died, the other would collect the payout.
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But if both died at the same time,
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that money, along with the house, savings,
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and other assets, would go straight to their next of kin.
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Joel Michael himself.
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With this grim arithmetic in mind,
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Joel Michael started preparing for what
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would become a horrifyingly calculated crime.
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Surveillance footage shows him shopping for supplies
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as early as November 7, 2016.
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Over multiple trips, he assembled a so-called murder kit,
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buying items like knives, a sledgehammer, a food grinder,
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and enough bleach to sterilize a crime scene.
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He paid in cash, used self-check out whenever possible,
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and completed his final purchase just five days
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before the murders.
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On November 26, 2016, Joel Michael returned
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to his parents' Knoxville home.
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Just days earlier, he had been there for Thanksgiving,
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though he spent most of the holiday in his childhood bedroom
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avoiding the family.
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This time, he had a chilling agenda.
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Upstairs in the home gym, his father had set up,
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Joel Senior likely thought nothing of encountering his son.
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Joel Michael, however, was ready.
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Armed with one of the knives he had meticulously purchased,
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he ambushed his father.
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Joel Senior physically fit and active 61 years old,
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fought back fiercely.
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The struggle tore through the room, leaving overturned
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exercise equipment shattered blinds and blood smeared
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across the walls.
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Despite his strength, Joel Senior was overpowered.
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Joel Michael stabbed him over 40 times,
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with one blow so forceful that part of the knife blade broke off
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in his father's shoulder.
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When the struggle finally ended, Joel Senior laid dead.
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Where Joel Michael, the hardest part was over, or so he thought.
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Now, he turned his attention to his next victim, his mother.
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Lisa had been out grocery shopping while her husband
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was being attacked.
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When she returned home, something must have tipped her off
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that all was not well.
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She dropped her groceries near the front door
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and rushed upstairs, heading directly for the gym.
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What greeted her was unthinkable, and she had no time to process it.
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Joel Michael, the son that she had loved and sacrificed for,
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attacked her with the same brutal ferocity.
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He stabbed her more than 30 times, breaking
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nine of her ribs in the process.
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With both parents dead, Joel Michael
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set about carrying out a meticulous and gruesome cleanup
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as outlined in a handwritten notebook
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recovered later by investigators.
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His plan was detailed and methodical,
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aimed at ensuring his parents' bodies would never be found intact.
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He started with his mother.
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Using knives and brute force, he decapitated her.
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The corner later determining that her head was mostly
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removed by pulling and twisting.
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He placed her head in a pot on the stove to boil.
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He dismembered both parents, severing arms, legs, and hands,
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and placed their torso in large containers
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filled with corrosive chemicals in the bathroom.
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Finally, he turned the house's heat to its highest setting
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to accelerate decomposition.
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Despite his attention to detail, Joel Michael
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overlooked one critical element, Lisa's job.
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When she didn't show up for work the following Monday,
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her boss grew concerned and called the police for a welfare check.
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What officers found when they arrived
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would defy even the darkest imagination.
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When two officers arrived at the guy family home
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to perform a welfare check, they expected the usual,
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maybe an accidental fall, or just a miscommunication.
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What greeted them instead was the stuff of nightmares.
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The stench hit them first, an overwhelming odor
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that made them gag.
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As they moved through the house, the horrifying reality unfolded.
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In the dining room, they found Joel's senior and Lisa's
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wallets, and Joel Michael's sledgehammer casually
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placed on the table.
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Another table was cluttered with firearms,
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but it was the kitchen where the true horror lay.
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A pot, simmering on the stove containing Lisa's head,
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and what investigators would later call a diabolical stew
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of human remains.
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The house was a tablo of violence and calculated cruelty.
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Bloody clothes were piled throughout.
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In the bathroom, the parents' torso
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were dissolving in corrosive chemicals.
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In the gym, Joel's senior's hand had been left on a bench
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as if casually discarded.
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Joel Michael was immediately flagged as a suspect.
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Investigators put him under surveillance
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for two days before arresting him outside the Baton Rouge
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apartment that his mother's money had still been paying for.
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A search of his car revealed yet another chilling clue.
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The meat grinder he'd purchased as part of his murder
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kit.
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During his trial, Joel Michael pleaded not guilty,
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despite the mountain of evidence against him,
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including his meticulous notebook detailing the plan
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to dismember and dispose of his parents.
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Bizarrely, his legal team requested the death penalty
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if he were convicted.
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The courts denied this request, and his defense
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offered no counterarguments or evidence of his innocence.
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Joel Michael was ultimately found guilty of two counts
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of first-degree murder and abuse of the courts.
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He received a life sentence without the possibility
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of parole.
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Even as recently as 2023, his appeals to have the sentence
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overturned were denied, ensuring he remains behind bars.
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The murders of Joel Guy Senior and Lisa Guy
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stand as a tragic reminder of how appearances can
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mask unspeakable realities.
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A family that once seemed tight-knit and supportive
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was torn apart by greed and violence,
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orchestrated by the very son they had loved and sacrificed for.
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Joel Guy Senior now spins his days in prison, leaving behind
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a legacy of horror.
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His parents, however, are remembered
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for their kindness, dedication, and love, a stark contrast
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to the brutality they faced in their final moments.
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Their story, though devastating, continues to resonate
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as a cautionary tale of betrayal and the darkness
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that can lurk where it's least expected.
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That's 10 Minute Murder for Today.
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Dear Joe, I think I've heard you mention
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on a previous episode that you are not for the death penalty.
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Is this true?
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And if it is, why is that?
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That may seem contradictory to the subject matter
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that I talk about, you would think, I consume all of this true crime,
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all this murder news, and go sort through evidence
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and information about things.
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You would think, yeah, Joe's probably pro-death penalty.
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You want these people, these criminals, these murderers,
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these serial killers to be put to death.
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No, I don't.
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And the reasons are kind of complicated.
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And I've mentioned this before, but first of all,
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if you are pro-death penalty, more power to you,
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I'm not telling you that you're wrong.
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I'm just saying that that's not a way that I feel.
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And there are a few reasons, and I'm not going to go into great detail about it.
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But the least of which is we still have things we can learn from these people.
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We can research them, we can interview them,
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you know, like the Mind Hunter series
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where they're talking to these serial killers.
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That helps build profiles to catch future killers.
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And if you kill them, you lose that resource.
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Also, I don't morally think that killing is an answer to killing.
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Does that make sense?
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I think that punishment should be a punishment,
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and you can't be punished if you're dead.
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And I get what you're saying, well, the death is the punishment.
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Yeah, I mean, they just cease to exist.
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They're not really being punished at that point.
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And then you're going to tell me that, you know,
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they're suffering and hell, that's their punishment.
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I don't know.
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You know what I'm saying?
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I don't have all the answers.
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I'm just telling you how I personally feel.
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And I get the arguments on both sides of it.
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I just happened to land on the side
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that doesn't think that you should be killing people
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for killing people.
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We have found so many times in the recent, even recent history
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that you can look this up, by the way.
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This isn't just me spouting things,
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but you can look it up and see how many times
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in the recent history that we have killed people
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and later on we've gone, oh, wait a minute,
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they weren't really guilty.
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Or at bare minimum, there's question about their guilt.
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And you can't un-execute them.
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So now what?
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Anyway, Tracy, thank you for the email.
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And if you listening would like to send me an email,
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question, a story idea, any of that,
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jo@tenminutemurder.com.
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And that's going to do it.
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If you're off to binge more episodes, don't let me stop you.
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Thank you so much for listening to "10 Minute Murder."
