In this episode we ask the question…when should you just give up? We also discuss the latest developments in the 2Pac murder case, and should women be treated like men if that feel that they can compete with men in sports, life, etc. #gom #2pac #2livecrew #grumpy #tupac #keefed #keefe #womensrights #grumpyoldmixtape #2livecrewofpodcasting #steadypoddin