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The Cognitive Revolution

A weekly podcast where hosts Erik Torenberg and Nathan Labenz interview the builders on the edge of AI and explore the dramatic shift it will unlock in the coming years. The Cognitive Revolution is part of the Turpentine podcast network. To learn more: turpentine.co

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April 16, 2025

Helen Toner: OpenAI Reflections, Adaptation Buffers, and AI in Warfare

In this thought-provoking conversation, Helen Toner, Director of Strategy at the Center for Security and Emerging Technology (CSET), discusses her perspectives on AI development, regulation, and international competition.

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April 13, 2025

Is a US-China Thucydides Trap Unavoidable? With David C. Kang from the ChinaTalk Podcast

In this crossover episode from the China Talk podcast, Nathan Labenz shares a thought-provoking conversation between Jordan Schneider, Ilari Michaela, and Professor David C. Kang that challenges conventional Western perspectives on East Asian international relations.

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April 10, 2025

Google Agents Beat Human Doctors, Make Scientific Discoveries – With Vivek Natarajan and Anil Palepu

In this mind-blowing episode, Nathan Labenz speaks with Vivek Natarajan and Anil Palepu from Google DeepMind about their groundbreaking work on AMIE (Articulate Medical Intelligence Explorer) and Co-Scientist.

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April 5, 2025

Scaling "Thinking": Gemini 2.5 Tech Lead Jack Rae on Reasoning, Long Context, & the Path to AGI

In this illuminating episode of The Cognitive Revolution, host Nathan Labenz speaks with Jack Ray, principal research scientist at Google DeepMind and technical lead on Google's thinking and inference time scaling work.

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April 2, 2025

Reward Hacking by Reasoning Models & Loss of Control Scenarios w/ Jeffrey Ladish of Palisade Research, from FLI Podcast

On this cross-post episode, Jeffrey Ladish discusses the rapid pace of AI progress and the risks of losing control over powerful systems.

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March 29, 2025

Shortwave Rides the Tidal Wave: Inbox Agents, Hyper-Growth & Hiring AI Managers, with CEO Andrew Lee

In this episode of the Cognitive Revolution podcast, Andrew Lee, founder and CEO of Shortwave, returns to discuss the rapid advancements in AI over the past year and how they have significantly improved Shortwave, an AI email assistant.

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May 3, 2023

VC Insights on Investing in Artificial Intelligence: A discussion wit…

Nathan Labenz and Erik Torenberg sat down with Sarah Guo and Elad Gil, notable investors and co-hosts of the AI-focused No Priors podcast. Sarah is the founder of $100M AI-focused venture fund Conviction VC, which she launched last fall. She …

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March 6, 2023

OpenAI Price Drop: [Another] Megathread

Nathan Labenz is channeling his inner DJ Khaled and dropping another one - that’d be another megathread on OpenAI’s pricing. Nathan explains the price drop on Open AI’s ChatGPT API, how it happened and what it means. For context,…

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March 6, 2023

OpenAI's Foundry leaked pricing says a lot – if you know how to read …

What to expect: Another AI-obsessive megathread on what 2023 has in store. Disclaimer: I am an OpenAI customer, but this analysis is based purely on public info. I asked our business contact if they could talk about Foundry, and got a p…

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The Human Fin | March 18, 2023

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