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Music.
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Hey, you found us. Welcome to Comfortably Uncomfortable, Not Another Running Story.
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I'm Megan Fanning, and I'm joined by Sean Meehan. We created this podcast to
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continue the real conversations that we have when we get outside to run,
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bike, surf, climb, or whatever it is that you do.
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We love the real conversations when boundaries come down, because really,
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that's when it gets interesting.
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Hey, wait, you're not Sean.
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No. What did you do with my Shawnee?
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Where is Sean? Who are you? Why are you on my screen? I sent him on a ski trip. Oh, no.
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Oh. Well, hello, everybody.
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As you can see and hear, I do not have Sean with me today, which is really sad,
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but we do have a lovely replacement that's stepping in for him for today.
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We have John Harris, and you may recall from, you know, I always should check.
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I should do my research and be like, episode number blah, blah, blah.
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But yeah, it was March 26th of last year. John was on our podcast.
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John is a seasoned podcaster, and he's an athlete, and he can talk. So what the heck?
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Why not? I can talk.
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Welcome to the podcast. Thanks. It's been a while.
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So it's like, I was like trying to go in my head, like all the stuff that's
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happened between the last time we spoke like this. So yeah, it's been a lot.
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Well, we'll have to, we'll get caught up on you. But just to let everybody know,
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I did mention at the beginning of the last podcast, Sean had an incident with a tree.
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So Sean hit a tree while skiing, and he broke his...
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Lower leg. I was trying to remember which bone is fibula. Yes.
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I was like, I was going through, yeah, the bigger one.
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Yeah. He, he did have to, he did have to have surgery. So he's,
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he's going to be slightly bionic, you know, as, as many of us are by now,
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but Sean is doing well for everybody, you know, that that's concerned.
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And if you're not concerned, then fuck off because because Sean's awesome, bitch.
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Boy, look at, with him not here, I have all this aggression.
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Like, I was like, where'd that come from?
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No, this is a whole new thing. I know.
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Well, Sean is doing well. He had his surgery. His leg is repaired.
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He's just taking a little time. I do believe he's in Vermont with his family
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this weekend. So it was just a little chaotic.
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And he's going to have another week of rest. And then we're going to bebop into,
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you know, the rest of our podcasts. and we'll keep Sean away from the trees
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that jump out in front of him.
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Because when you're skiing, they do. They legit jump out in front of you.
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Well, you said this is like the first injury he's really ever had, right?
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I think it's the first surgery he's had. Yeah.
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Well, I mean, I know he had a hernia repair years ago.
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When did he say years ago? A couple years ago. Two or three years ago.
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But fortunately, Sean has never had any, as far as I know, you know,
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I don't think it would have come up, any big, you know, athletic type accidents
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where he's had to be repaired.
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So it's welcome to the club. It sucks. And the t-shirt blows.
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The older you get, the older you get.
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Yeah. Well, and it's also, no, he's, you know, and he's not.
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But with the pace that we move, you know, I imagine I've never skied with Sean.
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Because I don't downhill ski.
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But I imagine he skis pretty hard and pretty fast. Yeah, he skis a lot of time. Yeah.
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Yeah, and it's like the way we all go, it kind of, you know,
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sometimes shit happens.
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I hope, kind listener, that it never happens to you and you don't have to be part of this crowd.
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Yeah, well, you don't want us to be bono anything, you know? Right, exactly.
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Exactly. It scares me about it. I know.
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Really, when I used to ski, I was such a bad skier, and I learned how to fall very well.
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Because I just felt out of control the entire time, and I always felt like I
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was going too fast, and I was going over.
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I mean, I would do jumps that I didn't realize I was doing until after I did them.
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And also, it's cold. Right.
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It's cold. Yeah. I've never been on a pair of skis in my life.
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Yeah. I mean. Not a lot of skiing in Florida.
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No. No. Well, I don't know.
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The one race I did in Florida, what did we have? I learned about banana spiders.
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Yes, you did. Those were freaking scary on the ground. Thousands of.
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I got hit by a bat in my neck. And I actually mean. I forgot about that. A bat. A bat.
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Yeah a bird bat yeah not a bat and then
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and then i saw and then i saw
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did you say a bird bat well yeah like
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as opposed to a baseball bat a bird i don't know because i don't want people
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thinking like i mean it is florida i could like turn the corner and get hit
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in the neck with a bat i mean that would happen in florida especially if i was
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like wearing some political t-shirt or or something. Not that I would ever wear one of those racing.
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And then, and then also during that same race, that was the one where I saw
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the cat walking on the trail.
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Yeah. So you said, I know, I swear to God, it was the weirdest thing.
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I thought I was hallucinating, but I'm like, I'm not running that hard.
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And, and it was only 12 hours.
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So, and I was like, there's a damn cat walking down the trail.
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And I just stood there kind of like looking back and forth, like what What the hell?
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And then these two people walked out of one of the little trailheads where I was.
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And I was like, did you see that cat?
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They're like, oh, yeah, he's our cat. He comes with us. He hikes with us. This is normal.
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There's a few of these cats in this neighborhood that not only show up,
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they just follow their owners around outside. I've never seen them.
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Yeah, but on trails and stuff? Never seen them.
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It's weird. You're freaking, freaking Florida, man. That's just,
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and especially like, you know, I do have a history of hallucinations while running.
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So, so when I first saw it, I legit did think I was hallucinating,
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but it was the middle of the day. I was fine. I actually felt fine.
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It wasn't that far into it, wasn't it?
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I don't, I don't remember. I mean, I don't remember where we were in the race,
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but I know it was still daytime and we started, we started first thing in the morning.
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So and yeah and only the last because that was a 12-hour race so only the last
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couple hours i think maybe the last hour or two was in the dark anyway so that's
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when i noticed all the glowing banana spiders on the ground yeah that's when
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they that's when you can see them they were there before,
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ew god what would have happened if i sat down oh you would have known it you.
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Oh god well what was the name of that race
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oh god not even uh it's
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in the inverness yeah yeah the the
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yeah the inverness the inverness forest but
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it was like this it was a 12-hour old school you had to send your up yeah you
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had to send your application in by mail there was no there was no cost i don't
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think after donations yeah i i think it's still going on but That was a fun race.
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Yeah. It's usually around a Valentine's Day. Yeah. Yeah.
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And, you know, the other thing, I remember two things about that race.
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Like, it was, I love the old school ultra feeling of that race.
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Yeah. It was very, everybody brought food and they just kind of stuck it in that little place.
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Yeah. And the other funny thing was, God, I can't remember how long eating was.
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Whispering Pines. Whispering pines. Whispering pines. Thank you. Thank you.
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Let's say each loop was five or six miles, maybe. I don't know.
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Something like that. But there was like a little bump, maybe right when you're starting the loop.
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And all these people are like, oh, we got to prep for the hill.
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We got to prep for the hills. And I'm like, there's the hill. I know.
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That's a hill in Florida. I was like, there's hills here? Although we went to
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visit Kim's dad in Tallahassee.
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There are some serious hills up there, but that's really Georgia.
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Oh, yeah, true. There's some hills up there. Yeah, that's true.
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You know how it is when you're driving around. You're always sizing up hills
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when you're driving. You say, well, I can go up there. I can go up there.
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I still do it. Yeah, I do. I do.
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Well, thank you for covering Prashanth today.
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It's it's a it's a pleasure to have you here and we've
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talked a little bit i mean we talk you know on and off you know
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but but it may be it may be a good so if
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you if you didn't hear the previous john harris podcast it's always it's always
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good to listen to and we will we will post the link for that but yeah just to
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get us caught up so so you got married i did congratulations yeah new house That was the thing.
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It's like the last time we were on, I hadn't even met Ken yet.
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Right. I'm still a month away from meeting her.
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Yeah. Yeah. I got married in September. Yeah.
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Had all my teeth pulled about in January. God, yeah.
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He did have them replaced, just so you know. By the way, this is a good moment
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to remind everybody that this video will be on YouTube as well.
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So please check out our Zendurance Now YouTube station.
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Yeah, that was an experience. Oh, God. I hate the dentist.
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I do too. And luckily, I mean, they said, no, it'll be fine.
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They'll put you out, you know, when they pull them all, they'll bring you back in.
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Wait a minute. Did you get to keep your teeth? You know what?
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I should have asked. Yeah. Yeah. Sorry to interrupt you. I know.
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It would be, I remember my brother's wisdom tooth. I'm holding my fingers up, but it's long.
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Yeah. I still have all my wisdom teeth.
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Oh, really? They left those? I still have, not now, but I still have.
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So they had to cut all those out.
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But they had to bring me out of the anesthesia like halfway through because
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I was going too deep, I guess.
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Yeah. I was like really getting deep in. So they brought me out.
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So when I woke up, I still didn't feel anything. But when I woke up,
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I'm hearing the cracking.
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So apparently you have no redheaded genes in you. you.
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So for those who don't know, people that are natural redheads or have really
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light hair and light eyes, we take more anesthesia and we tend to bleed more.
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So I've been asked a number of times going into surgery, are you a natural redhead?
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Which the first time somebody asked me that, I thought it was weird.
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And then the anesthesiologist explained, and over my years in medicine. I've learned this.
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Also, redheads metabolize drugs differently.
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Because you're from the devil, right? Because what's that? Because you're from
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the devil. It's like left-handed people. You're all evil. Well, it depends.
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I mean, I'm going to claim to being a witch, but whether I'm on the side of
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the devil or Glinda, the good witch, it just depends on my mood.
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So just don't cross me and you won't find out. Are you a good witch or a bad
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witch? Depends on the day.
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Depends if you did something to Sean. Maybe that's what happened to me when
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When I found out that you potentially hurt Sean, what did you do?
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I wanted to come on a podcast so badly.
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Yeah, you threw a tree in front of Sean. Oh, that's cruel. I miracle the tree in front.
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So you're recovered in your teeth. Look lovely.
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I still have to get my, these are still the temporaries. Oh, okay.
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So I still, I have to go in this week to get fitted for the permits because
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they have to let everything heal first.
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But one of the temporaries broke off Saturday, last Saturday.
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I was like a bit into a waffle.
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And I was like, I'm starting to feel something. Wait, what is that?
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And I just pull it out. Oh, the little tooth. And it was like,
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there's one on the back, so.
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I had one year at Christmas. Christmas, I had a cap come off my teeth when I
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was eating a Tootsie Roll.
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You know, you get that candy in your Christmas stocking, like,
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ooh, I mean, how, I don't really eat Tootsie Rolls. Happened to me when I was like 12.
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And I was like chewing the Tootsie Roll and all of a sudden something started scratching in my mouth.
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I was like, what is this? And I spit the Tootsie Roll off. I'm like, oh my God, my tooth.
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I was just thinking, just like, God, what if this had broken off in my sleep?
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You would have been pooping it out. Yeah. yeah yeah that's jeez
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i could be choked on it too you could
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have um but yeah they i mean
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it was sharp so they they actually got me on monday and kind of
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filed it down so it's like smoothing us that's good
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so and they're all anchored in they're like yeah they're in your it's in your
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bone yeah yeah yes um so i have a fear of the dentist i just hate the dentist
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so much but what What it makes me do is I am at the dentist every six months, like clockwork.
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And I have this belief that if I take care of my teeth, like I have really nice teeth.
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If I brush them, if I floss them, if I do all the right things,
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nothing will ever happen to my teeth.
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Now, I wish I could tell you that this was true, that it's worked for me because,
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you know, I did have a root canal when I was pregnant.
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I've had a couple minor things, but every time I go to the dentist,
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I just have this like fantasy in my mind that I'm going to open my mouth.
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And the dentist is going to go, oh, there's no scraping to do, Meg.
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You're good. You're good. You're good. Just let me just do a little rinse and you get to go home.
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That's what I'm waiting for. Someone's going to say that one day.
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Well, they're going to say it to me now because, you know, they're all fake. Yeah. Yeah.
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The weird thing is that it's hard to get used to because you don't realize how
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much you feel through your teeth when you're eating. Right.
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It's like I haven't, like, been drinking cold or anything like that.
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I don't feel it when it hits my teeth. I don't feel it.
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God, and my teeth are so sensitive, too. Mine usually were, too.
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So even when you're biting, like, a nacho, it's like you're chomping on things
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that really aren't there. You're just feeling through the motions.
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Wow, it's a little existential in nature, huh? Not that I eat nachos, of course.
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Oh, my God, nachos are my favorite. Are you kidding me? That's,
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like, one of my favorite foods.
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I can neither confirm nor deny that I love nachos. Oh, I love nachos.
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And it's also kind of a comfort food. Like we had a giant snow day.
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Actually, a couple of snow days, two snow days.
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But like on a snow day or a day that we're all home, I'll make a big,
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big, big plate of nachos. And I put beans on it and tomatoes.
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And I get the works.
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And then I'm like, yeah, yeah, it's totally a comfort food. Are you vegetarian
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or vegan or anything like that?
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You know, so I'm mainly vegetarian. And I like to just say plant-based.
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I've been vegan. I've been full-on vegetarian.
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What I've done over the years, and I want to say maybe the past three years,
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is because I tend to get really thinned, right? That's my issue.
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And not in a good way. Not in the way people are going to hate me.
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I'm like, oh, you know, don't hate me. I'm beautiful. No, no.
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I get thin. So I hate you. Yeah.
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And I get thin and I lose muscle tone, right?
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So, and especially as I'm getting older and at my age, like I'm 50, you know? I remember 50.
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Yeah, I need, yeah, I need my muscle. So, so what I try to do is eat what my body needs. Okay.
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Right. And so, you know, I'm mainly plant based.
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But, you know, if I'm, you know, like last night, you know, we cooked a little
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bit of chicken up. I ate some of that.
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If I'm at the fire department, a lot of times when we're at the fire department,
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you know, we cook for each other.
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Well, I can't say we. I don't really cook. I clean. I clean because my cooking is not good.
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But, you know, my partners will make something, and I eat what my partners make.
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So it's just being more relaxed. Like, I don't have rules.
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I just eat what's going to work best for my body.
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That's the change in me. Yeah. You know how I was, and you know very well that
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I used to be well over 300 pounds. And I got down, what, in 2021, I got down to 190.
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And I'm around 240 now, which is heavy for me. I'd rather be around than 200, 210.
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John, I wonder, if you got to 200, 210, I think you'd still be...
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I don't know that you'd be like, I need to be 180. I don't know that you would
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be saying that. No, I didn't like what I looked like at 190.
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Right, right. I mean, but I'm wondering if you would ever be happy with it.
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You think? I don't know. I mean, I was kind of, I felt good at 210.
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Yeah. I felt good. But what I was going to say is that during,
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because I couldn't eat any solid foods for three months.
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So we kind of got on this like vegetarian thing where we weren't eating meat.
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So eating, I never ate tofu in my life.
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So he kept starting making like things. And so with me, like making tofu with
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it. And actually it worked really well. I started dropping weight again.
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But, you know, I was eating soups. And I don't know if you've ever tried this thing, Philly Harvest.
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Oh, I've seen it. I've seen it. Really good stuff. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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All natural food, but it's like really, really tasty stuff. And very easy to
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make. And, you know, so kind of got on that for a while.
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Yeah, I get it. I do struggle. I do struggle with food.
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And just, I'm one of those people that forgets to eat, doesn't eat,
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doesn't think I need to eat.
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And yeah, just for, you know, what I've been doing lately is making sure that
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I eat three times a day, which most people don't have to do that.
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But when you, especially when you're doing shift work, you know, it's easy.
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You know, sometimes I don't have time to go to the bathroom, you know if
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it's a busy shift but making sure
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i eat three times a day and then and then snacks all
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day and i make sure i get enough protein and
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enough fruit and vegetables the carbs the carbs come in there you know i don't
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know no matter what and if your body needs carbs it's going to make the carbs
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you need anyway so i don't really i try to stay a little lower carb but i'm
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not i mean i had pasta last night so i mean yeah so did we but my pasta last
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night is almost like a side dish.
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It's not like my main, you know. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Yeah. You're only supposed to have like a handful of pasta and not a big plate of it. Right, yeah.
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Yeah, we went out last night and I had pasta with,
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shrimp and pistachio pesto
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thing oh yeah so i was gonna yeah i'm
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heard from friends from tennessee are down
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for the weekend so oh okay so we took them out to a restaurant out here so nice
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yeah and something else that's happened well i had to stop doing triathlons
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that just that's recent though yeah and that's what i was gonna that's what
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i was gonna bring up is that that you,
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because we were, you know, we were talking on the phone the other day,
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so we'll clue everybody in, but we were talking about, you know,
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working with our limitations.
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And, you know, I've been talking, well, actually, I've been talking it through
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on the pod, like working it through, you know, what can I do?
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Well, I mean, and you know, it's interesting.
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I can run. I can run relatively quickly.
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I've always had a little bit of
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speed, right? But when I run over double digits, I start to get back pain.
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Because again, I broke two vertebrae in my sacrum.
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So I'm starting to feel that a little bit. So I'm trying to just sort of figure out my life.
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Well, hold on. We got to stop the press for this one. I just don't want to hurt anymore.
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Yeah, that's what you have to with me too. Yeah, I'm tired of being in pain.
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I'm not having fun doing this anymore.
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And then you just have to start thinking about it. It's like,
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what's the reason I'm still trying to do this?
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Wouldn't it be easier to just kind of do what you want to do?
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So what's the limitation for you in triathlons?
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It's the training is bad because I'm doing back-to-back-to-back stuff.
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Up so i noticed like you know you know i have psoriatic arthritis and all this
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you know that came you know it was due to the cancer i have and what's and then
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just the only way i get onto wearing down you know i'm 60. you know so.
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It was i found that okay i go out for a run like when i first started training
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my first run was great i said oh i can still do this went out for my second
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one well okay now my ankles are hurting,
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you know and i'm not always the one running two and a half miles
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but it's the fact it's the day after
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day after day and then when i tried to do a
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like a brick you know i went out there and and rode for 10 miles and then just
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trying to get off the bike and then run and it's like my ankles are not having
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it they were just and usually it would like you know 10 years ago when it would
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hurt but it would loosen up you know it's not loosening up and then i felt it for days afterwards,
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i was like i talked to i talked to my uh rheumatologist and she goes yeah you're
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just gonna have to pull back on this so you know you're just not your body's
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just not gonna let you do it find something else can you ride i can ride yeah
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so that's the same right it's still right i can still swim. Yep.
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It's just, it's the training, the back-to-back training. It's like,
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I can ride and then, and I'll feel it the next day, but if I wait a day and
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then ride again, then I'm fine. It's fun, you know?
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So I've adopted the Sam Farnsworth method of training, and he's talked about
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this. I don't know which podcast.
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We'd need to have somebody producing our podcast to help me me with all these numbers.
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But, you know, what Sam does and he's talked about is he has his key workouts
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that he wants to do for the week, right?
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You know, maybe one or two big days. And then he just sort of figures it out as he goes every week.
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And that's kind of what I've been doing.
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My, I really have to train around work because sometimes work just, sometimes work is easy.
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It's a fire department. Sometimes, you know, the last time I was there,
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oh no, no, that's not true.
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I had one shift a couple weeks ago where we had nothing. I, you know,
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where, where we slept through the night. I was like, huh?
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And then other shifts where, you know, you're up, we were up at a car explosion
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at three o'clock in the morning, my partner and I. And, you know,
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and I'm just a paramedic. I am not a firefighter.
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So, so what does, there's really not much for a paramedic to do,
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you know, if there's no victim for a car explosion,
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I just have to make sure that, you know, the firefighters, you know,
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aren't working themselves too hard and, you know, any coverage for other types of medical stuff.
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But, but yeah, so, you know, but after that, you know, I have to come home,
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I have to come home and take a nap, you know, I mean.
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And I'm not a napper, so I don't nap. Me neither. Me neither.
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Me neither. And really, if I'm taking a nap, it's usually because I'm sick.
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Yeah. Like, if I can sleep during the day, it's because I'm sick or it's because
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I worked the night before. Yeah.
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How do you overnight? You're an old shifter. So I have, you know,
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have a regular, you know, have a regular day paramedic job.
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But the fire department that I work, I'm at, like, I'm at per diem.
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Oh, okay. So I pick shifts and I really, I like the night shifts.
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I always liked them when I was in the military. I always knew.
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Yeah, I do it. I like it. Stuff like that. I just did.
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Because it was usually slower, usually not a lot of exercises and training going on.
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It's Russian roulette with me. Yeah.
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And also, I've said this for years.
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Since my 30s, I think I've realized this. but I'm a night person in a day person's life, right?
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So I have kids in a family and I live with day people that I love and I want to spend time with.
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I can't work all nights because I would just,
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I would never see them. You know, we'd have opposite lives. That would be hard, yeah.
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And also, my house is always busy. You know, I mean, people just coming and going, dogs, cats.
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So even if I do take a nap after shift, it's not for long because there's always
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a dog or somebody or something.
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I just can't sleep. I'm just learning how to deal with a dog now.
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We just got the puppy two weeks ago. Well, that's like having a baby.
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Oh, my God. Yeah. It's exactly like that. How old is your puppy? 12 weeks?
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He just turned 12 weeks, yeah. Yeah, I saw the picture, yeah.
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He was 11, 11 and a half pounds when we got him.
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Aw. Three weeks ago, and now he's over 20.
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Yep. What kind of dog is it? A Labrador.
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Okay, Labrador. We got him from a breeder over here in St. Pete.
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Yeah. And yeah, this dog, he's going to be like 50, 60 pounds probably.
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Yeah. I think he's going to be even bigger, but he's growing like a weed.
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But it gets easier it gets easier
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yeah i know that's what we're trying to get through but you know when he he's
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a stubborn little when he's on though
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he's a smart little guy but when he doesn't want
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to do something well you know the smarter
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the dog is the harder they are to train and i
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have i have one of my dogs is like that you just
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kind of got to work with what you have it takes a lot of of
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patience no he took like four days he sleeps through the night
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now oh nice i mean they said
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you're gonna be getting up two or three times a night no i put him in the crate
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maybe around 10 30 and six o'clock i go down and take him for a walk and sleep
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all the way through it he's sitting there waiting for me when i come down though
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but a good boy yeah you know i think,
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I'm hearing Sean's voice in my head because I think he said a couple episodes
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ago that it's interesting.
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He said, Meg, he said, you're riding your bike so much. It's interesting that
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the thing that took you out is the thing that you're doing. I thought about that also.
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That's coma. And I don't know if you remember when I was doing triathlons,
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but I always said my bike was the weakest.
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Bike was my is the top
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quarter with swimming and i and i
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felt like i'd lose places i'd go back in in the bike people would pass me and
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then when i ran i'd catch up that's almost the opposite like swimming was always
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it's a fear of mine but i'm good at it you
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know it's the most anxiety The diving-provoking part of the race for me,
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I could swim really well, though, once I get out of my head.
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I don't like getting jostled. I don't know where it comes from,
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but I have this huge fear of drowning.
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And because of my breathing issues with the cancer and injuries and stuff,
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some of the breathing, I think it's just where it comes from.
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How is it that you have a fear of drowning and you were in the Navy?
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No fear, right? Right? I guess that falls into the category of me...
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Not being able to, almost dying on a bike, and now I ride my bike.
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Yeah. We had people in boot camp that couldn't swim.
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Yeah. Yeah. And I mean, you're part of boot camp, part of your training is you
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have to jump off a 20-foot, I don't know if they still do this,
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but you had to jump off a 20-foot platform, hit the water.
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Take your pants off. Make a light preserver out of it.
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And while you're, like, that's why there are bell-bottoms in the Navy.
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So, you know, off over your boots.
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When I was doing, like, you know, Tough Mudders and Spartans and stuff like that.
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So, I was doing those because I was coaching people.
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So, in a sense, I was basically paid to do those races. Okay?
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I never had to pay for my entry fee. You know, I got it. But when,
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you know, and I remember in the Tough Mudder, there's a, you jump off a platform
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at one, at one point, you know, into, you know, into some pond or something. I hate heights.
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00:29:58,140 --> 00:30:04,100
I hate heights. I'm not, I'm not the one that's ever going to jump off a cliff.
424
00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:06,720
Like, ooh, this is fun. Let's jump off a cliff and do it. I don't get it.
425
00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:08,960
No. I don't get the skydiving thing either.
426
00:30:09,740 --> 00:30:12,960
But with that said, I'm the coach.
427
00:30:13,840 --> 00:30:16,840
So I'm doing it. So literally, I just go into the zone.
428
00:30:16,980 --> 00:30:23,360
And actually, what I remember to one particular race, I, I jumped off and then
429
00:30:23,360 --> 00:30:26,480
I had one athlete that was standing at the top of the platform and she just
430
00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:28,800
couldn't do it. She just was so scared.
431
00:30:29,020 --> 00:30:33,160
So I actually climbed back up there. So and I jumped again with her and I was
432
00:30:33,160 --> 00:30:35,840
like, okay, we're going to hold hands and we're going to do this.
433
00:30:36,340 --> 00:30:39,280
And, and she stood there. My God, it was a while.
434
00:30:39,380 --> 00:30:41,920
It took her like five or 10 minutes to jump. But I, you know,
435
00:30:41,920 --> 00:30:42,820
I just stood there with her.
436
00:30:42,880 --> 00:30:46,800
I was like, it's okay. She did, and you don't have to. You know,
437
00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:48,080
she could have climbed down.
438
00:30:48,760 --> 00:30:54,480
Excuse me. Frog in my throat. So, and it was really nice because when she finally
439
00:30:54,480 --> 00:30:58,460
did jump, the entire, you know, the people, because, you know,
440
00:30:58,500 --> 00:31:00,940
they have people swimming in the water, you know, just for safety.
441
00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:03,680
They have other people watching. The place went nuts.
442
00:31:04,560 --> 00:31:09,020
Everybody cheered her on. Yeah, it's usually a very supportive community.
443
00:31:09,240 --> 00:31:12,460
But, you know, fun trail running is like that, too. Very supportive.
444
00:31:12,460 --> 00:31:17,240
But I'll just tell the story of the first trail run I ever did. I had a night stop.
445
00:31:18,308 --> 00:31:22,008
And it was like it wasn't even a man station it was just a table with
446
00:31:22,008 --> 00:31:24,868
stuff on it yeah and i had stopped and it was starting to
447
00:31:24,868 --> 00:31:28,868
rain and i was taking my poncho out of my backpack and a guy came out skinny
448
00:31:28,868 --> 00:31:34,528
guy long beard stood there for five minutes talking to me about you know this
449
00:31:34,528 --> 00:31:37,808
is my first race and you know kind of strategies and stuff and he said okay
450
00:31:37,808 --> 00:31:41,648
i'll see you see out there and he took off and he's the one that ended up winning
451
00:31:41,648 --> 00:31:44,668
the race and that's what i always say it's like, no,
452
00:31:44,768 --> 00:31:47,788
you never see that in the triathlon or run.
453
00:31:48,068 --> 00:31:52,188
Nobody, the leader of the race would never stop and talk to you. They'd be going.
454
00:31:52,788 --> 00:31:58,288
Right. And in that feeling, that's why we have this podcast, right?
455
00:31:58,388 --> 00:32:01,648
Because like for you and I to be able to catch up like this,
456
00:32:01,788 --> 00:32:06,028
we would need to be on a run or a bike or, you know what I mean?
457
00:32:06,048 --> 00:32:10,288
Like it breaks down all those barriers and it is different with triathlon.
458
00:32:10,288 --> 00:32:16,668
And one of the reasons I never fit into the triathlon world is they are so fancy
459
00:32:16,668 --> 00:32:24,168
and like the, you know, the matching kits and shoes and, and, you know, that's not me.
460
00:32:24,288 --> 00:32:28,168
Even before I was, I mean, I, I've always been a trail runner because that's
461
00:32:28,168 --> 00:32:32,368
basically, I was just raised like go play in the woods, you know,
462
00:32:32,368 --> 00:32:37,708
but like if I'm cold, like I'd put a garbage bag on me if I didn't.
463
00:32:38,188 --> 00:32:41,568
Like i just i just don't care you
464
00:32:41,568 --> 00:32:44,608
know i just yeah you're right about triathletes though
465
00:32:44,608 --> 00:32:47,328
they have to have you know all matchy matchy their
466
00:32:47,328 --> 00:32:51,368
helmets have to match your bikes and have to match your shoes and have to you
467
00:32:51,368 --> 00:32:55,488
know things like that and the other thing that blew me away is there was this
468
00:32:55,488 --> 00:33:00,008
one triathlon series i did every week and they would they i don't know why they
469
00:33:00,008 --> 00:33:04,628
did it like this but they'd start the women and then they'd start the men so
470
00:33:04,628 --> 00:33:07,308
what happened is is towards the end of the bike ride,
471
00:33:07,568 --> 00:33:11,588
the first men would be, the first couple men would be catching me.
472
00:33:11,828 --> 00:33:16,688
And I'd look at these bikes and I'm like, damn, these bikes cost more than my car does.
473
00:33:17,148 --> 00:33:22,388
Well, I mean, I can't speak to that. Because at the time when I bought my bike,
474
00:33:22,428 --> 00:33:27,968
and I was three years old now, but the car I had in my bike was worth more than my car. Yeah.
475
00:33:28,328 --> 00:33:32,428
Yeah, I spent over three grand on the bike and my car was worth maybe two at that time.
476
00:33:32,728 --> 00:33:37,828
Oh, no, I'm talking, no, no, no. No, I mean, I'm talking about $10,000 bikes. Yes, yes.
477
00:33:38,588 --> 00:33:43,788
And I would love, I mean, I have a Cervelo that I've been eyeing.
478
00:33:43,828 --> 00:33:50,408
Like, you know, sure, if Cervelo wants to sponsor me and give me this $15,000
479
00:33:50,408 --> 00:33:55,868
bike so I can ride my segment three seconds faster, well, damn, I would take it.
480
00:33:55,908 --> 00:34:01,228
But right now, the rider that I am, it really doesn't matter.
481
00:34:01,228 --> 00:34:05,968
And before my crash, I was on this,
482
00:34:06,659 --> 00:34:09,619
clunker of an aluminum bike for years and i
483
00:34:09,619 --> 00:34:12,259
i knew what i was riding like because i kind of
484
00:34:12,259 --> 00:34:16,019
figure that i ride this clunker bike and by
485
00:34:16,019 --> 00:34:18,739
the time i hit the race and you know and i'm on a good
486
00:34:18,739 --> 00:34:24,879
bike then i'm gonna fly yeah well speaking of bikes like that my my father-in-law
487
00:34:24,879 --> 00:34:28,819
right after we got married we were up there visiting him he has he had a bike
488
00:34:28,819 --> 00:34:33,719
in his garage that he had bought 30 years ago 40 50 years ago that was just
489
00:34:33,719 --> 00:34:36,239
hanging in his garage now i just mentioned And I said,
490
00:34:36,319 --> 00:34:38,719
that's an interesting bike you have out there.
491
00:34:39,379 --> 00:34:42,999
And he goes, yeah, do you want it? So I said, yeah, I'll take it.
492
00:34:43,059 --> 00:34:47,739
And so I got it and finally got it, put it into the shop a couple of weeks ago
493
00:34:47,739 --> 00:34:49,039
just to get it looked over.
494
00:34:49,819 --> 00:34:54,699
And like every mechanic in that shop was over there looking at that bike. Where did you get this?
495
00:34:55,279 --> 00:34:59,039
What kind of bike is it? It's a Schwinn Latour 1975.
496
00:35:00,379 --> 00:35:03,939
Oh, damn. In good shape. Did you ride it?
497
00:35:04,459 --> 00:35:09,259
Huh? Did you ride it yet? Oh, yeah. I took it out. Kim has a bike,
498
00:35:09,339 --> 00:35:11,999
so we took it out on the trail. You know, she wanted to ride.
499
00:35:12,399 --> 00:35:15,419
Oh, is it a gravel? Or is it, what's it? Is it a gravel bike?
500
00:35:15,419 --> 00:35:17,899
It's a 10-speed on the tree.
501
00:35:18,639 --> 00:35:23,839
Oh, my God. Yeah, yeah, yeah. The brakes are like this, you know? Yeah.
502
00:35:24,779 --> 00:35:27,859
But I guess they were telling me the whole, they were looking it up.
503
00:35:28,399 --> 00:35:32,839
It's like, you need to take care of this bike because this is like a vintage bike. bike.
504
00:35:33,719 --> 00:35:35,799
So it's a yellow bike.
505
00:35:36,979 --> 00:35:40,319
So all I had to do was put new tape on it, and they messed with the brakes a
506
00:35:40,319 --> 00:35:44,179
little, and that was it. It was like, he still has me at me.
507
00:35:45,259 --> 00:35:49,799
Wow. Do you know what? My dad's like that, too. My dad saves all the manuals.
508
00:35:49,799 --> 00:35:52,599
And honestly, I've never read a manual in my entire life.
509
00:35:52,759 --> 00:35:55,939
And every time, if I open up something that has a manual, my dad's like,
510
00:35:56,039 --> 00:35:58,559
you put this in a safe place.
511
00:35:58,919 --> 00:36:02,219
Here you go. And I'm like, Like, yeah, dad, I will.
512
00:36:03,879 --> 00:36:06,759
I've never. It's the exact opposite. We just like redid the kitchen.
513
00:36:06,779 --> 00:36:11,679
So we have all new, like, you know, smart refrigerator and smart, you know, gas range.
514
00:36:11,739 --> 00:36:17,179
And then with the convention oven and stuff like that, you get all the fancy stuff.
515
00:36:17,379 --> 00:36:19,679
And I'm like saying, well, it's got to be in the manual somewhere.
516
00:36:19,779 --> 00:36:20,979
She goes, well, we'll just play with it.
517
00:36:21,599 --> 00:36:25,419
That's what I do. We'll figure it out. That's what I do. We couldn't figure
518
00:36:25,419 --> 00:36:27,119
out how to make toast. So we had to buy a toaster.
519
00:36:28,559 --> 00:36:33,839
Because we usually have the the small one like a the emerald little oven and
520
00:36:33,839 --> 00:36:39,399
you can make toasted so it's like we can't be toast will we no you need a toaster
521
00:36:39,399 --> 00:36:41,379
needed so we had to buy a toaster so.
522
00:36:43,999 --> 00:36:49,199
So i know it's it's yeah like i said you know i got you know i'm getting married
523
00:36:49,199 --> 00:36:51,519
it's like getting it's been nice though,
524
00:36:52,319 --> 00:36:57,019
It is. It is. It's if you're with the right person is it is.
525
00:36:57,119 --> 00:37:00,039
And it's also a lot of work.
526
00:37:00,079 --> 00:37:04,559
And I don't mean that like, like, like, I mean, well, sometimes it's good work.
527
00:37:04,599 --> 00:37:07,399
Sometimes it's bad work. But if you're going to commit to being with somebody
528
00:37:07,399 --> 00:37:12,499
like that, people change, you know, you're going to change, you're going to
529
00:37:12,499 --> 00:37:19,059
go through things and the ability to just work things out with that other with that other person.
530
00:37:19,059 --> 00:37:24,939
And there are some days where I don't like my husband very much,
531
00:37:25,039 --> 00:37:28,959
and I kind of just want to strangle him, but I still love him.
532
00:37:29,179 --> 00:37:31,059
You know, I mean, and that doesn't...
533
00:37:32,119 --> 00:37:37,939
Well, yeah, we just celebrated our 14th anniversary, but we've been together
534
00:37:37,939 --> 00:37:40,259
for 18 years. Yeah. So, yeah.
535
00:37:40,579 --> 00:37:46,459
And we've been through a lot. Yeah. You know, a lot. I do.
536
00:37:46,499 --> 00:37:53,139
Well, I've always said it's like, you know, I got married at how old? I just turned 60.
537
00:37:53,679 --> 00:37:58,539
Yeah. And I've been single for five, six years at that point.
538
00:37:59,219 --> 00:38:05,679
So it's almost like at this age, you kind of figure out what you don't want more than this.
539
00:38:05,959 --> 00:38:08,839
Well, yeah. I mean, and you know who you are.
540
00:38:09,079 --> 00:38:12,579
You know who you are. I mean, you know who you are. Yeah. Yeah,
541
00:38:13,179 --> 00:38:17,059
and it's just like there are some things you're just not willing to put up with.
542
00:38:17,139 --> 00:38:22,819
My roommate used to joke with me that I don't give people grace that I did when I was dating.
543
00:38:23,179 --> 00:38:26,339
It's like, if you do something, I say, okay, that's done. We're done.
544
00:38:26,979 --> 00:38:30,319
And you don't give anybody any grace. It's like, because I know that's going
545
00:38:30,319 --> 00:38:33,619
to drive me crazy. If it's driving me crazy now, it's been driving me more crazy your feet.
546
00:38:34,379 --> 00:38:38,439
That's probably a smart thing to realize. Yeah. And it's just like I was not
547
00:38:38,439 --> 00:38:41,579
willing to accept things, certain things. Yeah.
548
00:38:42,339 --> 00:38:46,079
And, you know, I don't know. I don't think that's not giving people grace.
549
00:38:46,199 --> 00:38:51,099
It's just like, I know what I want and what I don't want from the past. You know what?
550
00:38:53,059 --> 00:38:57,759
Boundaries. We could reframe that. That's what this therapist Megan talked about. Yeah.
551
00:38:58,399 --> 00:39:01,479
It's just, you know, setting boundaries. Oh, yeah.
552
00:39:02,259 --> 00:39:06,739
Yeah. And I knew what I did. And so when I met Kim, it's like, oh, okay.
553
00:39:07,299 --> 00:39:10,899
This is what you were waiting for, you know? Mm-hmm. So. Mm-hmm.
554
00:39:12,259 --> 00:39:19,119
Well, we, I am trying to bring Bill over to the dark side of gravel bikes.
555
00:39:20,079 --> 00:39:24,479
You haven't, yeah. So, because again, remember, you know, I'm in New Hampshire.
556
00:39:24,739 --> 00:39:31,459
It is really tough to ride a road bike around here. Yeah. I mean, the roads are not good.
557
00:39:32,199 --> 00:39:36,659
You know, and he has this super fancy road bike that he is now selling. Yeah.
558
00:39:37,492 --> 00:39:42,432
I would actually take it if it fit me, but he's a 58, you know,
559
00:39:42,432 --> 00:39:44,112
so. Well, he's bigger than I am.
560
00:39:44,612 --> 00:39:50,052
Yeah, yeah. Well, I mean, yeah, that's, I go between 54 and 56,
561
00:39:50,152 --> 00:39:51,852
just depending on the bike. Yeah, I think we are.
562
00:39:52,432 --> 00:39:55,652
But Bill's over six, you know, Bill's over six feet tall, so.
563
00:39:56,672 --> 00:40:01,652
He's bigger than I am now. Yeah, so we're, he's finally selling his road bike.
564
00:40:01,772 --> 00:40:06,492
We went shopping for gravel bikes and, God, it was like, it was like a shake
565
00:40:06,492 --> 00:40:07,812
my head moment Because he's like,
566
00:40:08,792 --> 00:40:13,652
you know, they have the, I mean, they have really expensive gravel bikes now
567
00:40:13,652 --> 00:40:17,872
with like, you know, the hydraulic front, you know, the front.
568
00:40:17,932 --> 00:40:19,992
So you can take impact and go off jumps.
569
00:40:20,192 --> 00:40:22,872
And I was like, I said to him, I was like, Bill, stop.
570
00:40:23,552 --> 00:40:28,892
We are, you do not do that on a gravel bike. That is what mountain bikes are for.
571
00:40:29,052 --> 00:40:33,252
He's like, but yeah, if you, I was like, no, that's not what we do.
572
00:40:33,252 --> 00:40:37,492
I mean, imagine you're riding on the road to get to the trail,
573
00:40:37,592 --> 00:40:39,772
and we're riding on dirt roads.
574
00:40:39,932 --> 00:40:43,172
I mean, and sometimes it gets gnarly. I mean, you know, it does get gnarly.
575
00:40:43,252 --> 00:40:46,932
But I'm like, you want your gravel bike to be as light as possible,
576
00:40:47,032 --> 00:40:49,432
especially the distances that we're trying to cover.
577
00:40:49,952 --> 00:40:53,552
You want your gravel bike to be comfortable in that heavy.
578
00:40:54,612 --> 00:40:57,992
And plus, this mountain bike that he was looking at was like $8,000.
579
00:40:58,932 --> 00:41:01,752
So, yeah. And I'm like, scale it back.
580
00:41:01,752 --> 00:41:08,772
You do not need titanium you know you do not need oh god yeah so we had to have,
581
00:41:09,232 --> 00:41:12,172
and and the bike guy is like she's right and i'm
582
00:41:12,172 --> 00:41:16,692
like of course i'm right well that's good it's good oh no
583
00:41:16,692 --> 00:41:20,932
no and it was funny because i'm talking to the bike guy and i still to this
584
00:41:20,932 --> 00:41:25,472
day say i'm not a cyclist i'm not a cyclist that's i just because i'm a runner
585
00:41:25,472 --> 00:41:29,152
that's where i've come from and i feel that in my car i still don't feel like
586
00:41:29,152 --> 00:41:32,792
a cyclist and and so you know we're talking i was like yeah you know i'm not
587
00:41:32,792 --> 00:41:35,372
a cyclist but you know this is what i do and blah blah blah
588
00:41:35,752 --> 00:41:38,532
and then you know a couple minutes later i was like oh
589
00:41:38,532 --> 00:41:42,152
yeah i did that race and i did that and you know this and the guy's like wait.
590
00:41:42,152 --> 00:41:45,852
A minute he's like you said you weren't a cyclist he's like you're doing you're
591
00:41:45,852 --> 00:41:51,312
doing gravel bike races and he said well yeah because well i think you're a
592
00:41:51,312 --> 00:41:56,072
cyclist then i was like you identify you identify as a runner so what are your
593
00:41:56,072 --> 00:41:57,852
pronouns downs. I know. Yeah.
594
00:41:58,772 --> 00:42:05,972
I don't know. It's, it's, and I don't know at what point will I feel like.
595
00:42:06,912 --> 00:42:10,872
A cyclist. I mean, I feel like a surfer. I can tell you that.
596
00:42:11,112 --> 00:42:15,592
Yeah. I've never identified as a triathlete. I've done Ironmans.
597
00:42:16,192 --> 00:42:19,532
Right, right. I mean, I've had Ironmans, but I've never identified as... Yeah.
598
00:42:19,652 --> 00:42:24,412
And I don't consider myself a very good surfer. If the waves are over four or
599
00:42:24,412 --> 00:42:27,252
five feet, that's enough for me. You're much too cold up there.
600
00:42:27,332 --> 00:42:28,272
I don't know how you do that.
601
00:42:28,572 --> 00:42:31,852
Well, my winter wetsuit is seven millimeters.
602
00:42:32,252 --> 00:42:35,172
Okay. And I don't know if you've ever... I don't know if you've...
603
00:42:35,172 --> 00:42:36,612
I'll have to post a picture now.
604
00:42:36,912 --> 00:42:45,092
But my winter wetsuit, I have a full face hood, the gloves, I'm making Spock
605
00:42:45,092 --> 00:42:48,112
hands for those who can't see, booties, I'm covered.
606
00:42:48,552 --> 00:42:57,552
And also when we're surfing during the winter, I don't surf on rough days because I'm not that good.
607
00:42:57,792 --> 00:43:03,912
And the really good surfers, they can be riding five foot waves and they don't go underwater.
608
00:43:03,912 --> 00:43:06,852
Water you know but but if if i go
609
00:43:06,852 --> 00:43:10,452
underwater and the wind and you know it's it's
610
00:43:10,452 --> 00:43:13,172
it takes the fun yeah i'm just not that good
611
00:43:13,172 --> 00:43:17,392
yet i mean maybe maybe at some point i'll be that good but yeah no the i'm totally
612
00:43:17,392 --> 00:43:23,732
warm in my wetsuit and then in the summer mave and i are surfing our wets our
613
00:43:23,732 --> 00:43:28,352
summer wetsuits are three millimeters the water out there is still cold right
614
00:43:28,352 --> 00:43:32,132
oh yeah yeah it's cold It's like the Atlantic over here.
615
00:43:32,292 --> 00:43:34,512
It's like the Gulf is like 100 degrees.
616
00:43:35,032 --> 00:43:39,572
Right. The Atlantic is usually in the 70s. But what's weird is,
617
00:43:39,632 --> 00:43:45,292
you know, you could be surfing one day, you know, during the summer, and the water is frigid.
618
00:43:45,352 --> 00:43:48,972
I mean, and, you know, so you have to have the wetsuit on, especially if you're
619
00:43:48,972 --> 00:43:52,552
going to be, because, you know, just in there for, you know, more than an hour.
620
00:43:52,672 --> 00:43:56,872
And then other days I'm putting my wetsuit on and I'm like sweating in the water.
621
00:43:56,872 --> 00:44:00,892
You know, you just, so it really, the water temp will fluctuate,
622
00:44:00,892 --> 00:44:02,632
you know, anywhere from 5 to 10 degrees.
623
00:44:03,032 --> 00:44:09,372
So, but the last time, so I have a, I have a elbow injury and,
624
00:44:09,452 --> 00:44:11,072
but before I had this injury,
625
00:44:11,212 --> 00:44:16,092
I was stand up paddle boarding and I had my 7 millimeter wetsuit on because
626
00:44:16,092 --> 00:44:19,812
the ocean was flat that day. Just pancake flat.
627
00:44:19,892 --> 00:44:21,852
So I was like, you know, let's take out the paddleboard.
628
00:44:22,012 --> 00:44:25,232
And here's the thing. I don't fall off the paddleboard.
629
00:44:25,372 --> 00:44:30,292
I have fallen off the paddleboard twice in my life. And I've been paddleboarding for...
630
00:44:31,218 --> 00:44:33,498
I don't know, let's say 10 years. I just literally don't fall.
631
00:44:34,358 --> 00:44:38,518
So prior to this incident, it had only been one, one other time that I fell.
632
00:44:38,998 --> 00:44:45,158
And so I'm paddle boarding and, and I was at the beach with Bill and I,
633
00:44:45,278 --> 00:44:49,138
you know, I kind of go back and forth, you know, sort of following the shore
634
00:44:49,138 --> 00:44:55,498
and I went a little too far and it got, you know, it got rocky and it got, well, it's fine.
635
00:44:55,618 --> 00:44:59,358
You know, it's like, but you know, when it gets rocky, the surf kind of meets
636
00:44:59,358 --> 00:45:02,858
there. And I was like, I've gone a little too far, but I got hit by a big wave.
637
00:45:04,478 --> 00:45:07,998
And Bill said, my God, I wish I had video of that.
638
00:45:08,538 --> 00:45:12,398
He said, because he was standing on the shore. And he said, all of a sudden,
639
00:45:12,398 --> 00:45:16,298
I looked up at you and I see your feet in the air. I see the paddle flying.
640
00:45:16,858 --> 00:45:20,758
And I was like, yeah, it was a little, I'm really not that skilled.
641
00:45:22,958 --> 00:45:26,978
But I laughed. Hey, if you're going to fall, make it memorable.
642
00:45:27,418 --> 00:45:29,178
Yeah, exactly. Just sway out.
643
00:45:29,998 --> 00:45:33,998
Well, okay. So I will tell you the other story of when I fell,
644
00:45:34,118 --> 00:45:36,538
because this seemed like a good idea at the time. Okay.
645
00:45:36,858 --> 00:45:41,618
So anytime we're on vacation, I always bring my stand-up paddleboard.
646
00:45:41,738 --> 00:45:46,378
I love it. It's just my favorite thing. And we had a vacation house at a lake.
647
00:45:46,638 --> 00:45:48,298
Is it inflatable or is it...
648
00:45:49,178 --> 00:45:52,358
No, it's solid. Yeah, it's solid. It's inflatable.
649
00:45:53,658 --> 00:45:57,078
Yeah. It's pretty good. Yeah, they are. They really are.
650
00:45:57,258 --> 00:46:01,698
Yeah. Yeah, so I'm doing my paddleboard and the girls at the house we were renting,
651
00:46:01,818 --> 00:46:05,718
the girls found, oh God, what was it?
652
00:46:05,778 --> 00:46:12,458
It's like a little teeny, a little teeny like baby kayak that both of them could fit in, right?
653
00:46:12,618 --> 00:46:20,458
So the girls were, I don't know, I'm going to say Shay was 16 and let's say Maeve was 12 at the time.
654
00:46:20,898 --> 00:46:26,078
So what we would do is we all go out together. So I paddle, they paddle,
655
00:46:26,178 --> 00:46:27,458
we go out to the middle of the lake.
656
00:46:27,718 --> 00:46:31,438
We stop and swim, you know, having fun, right? So we get this great idea.
657
00:46:32,438 --> 00:46:38,898
Wouldn't it be fun if I towed them? Okay. Now, for those who know physics can see where this is going.
658
00:46:39,138 --> 00:46:42,238
So I give them the.
659
00:46:44,798 --> 00:46:54,678
Cord that goes on my ankle. Okay. So that cord is about, yeah, this is a disaster.
660
00:46:54,978 --> 00:47:00,178
So that cord's about Six to eight feet long? It's pretty long. Maybe six feet long.
661
00:47:00,678 --> 00:47:08,118
And so I give it to one of the girls, and I start paddling. And I'm pulling this kayak in my mind.
662
00:47:08,158 --> 00:47:12,098
So I'm paddling, I'm paddling. Then all of a sudden, the weight...
663
00:47:12,098 --> 00:47:14,798
And I'm getting a good vibe going.
664
00:47:15,058 --> 00:47:17,358
The weight of the two of them hit me.
665
00:47:18,778 --> 00:47:24,458
And I... Superman. I mean, you know when you're in slow motion, I'm like...
666
00:47:27,255 --> 00:47:34,115
And I literally just dove. I mean, the board stayed still. I kept moving.
667
00:47:34,695 --> 00:47:39,355
I banged the side of my leg on the paddleboard so hard.
668
00:47:39,455 --> 00:47:43,515
And honestly, it was, it was so funny.
669
00:47:43,695 --> 00:47:48,715
I mean, when I finally popped my head up, I could tell the girls were laughing,
670
00:47:48,855 --> 00:47:50,735
but they didn't know if I was hurt.
671
00:47:50,875 --> 00:47:55,375
So they were, and then they saw me laughing and then the rest, we just died.
672
00:47:55,575 --> 00:47:59,435
I mean, we just, they're like, oh, they're like, oh my God, mom.
673
00:47:59,595 --> 00:48:03,775
Oh my God. You just flew. You flew. You flew so fast.
674
00:48:04,655 --> 00:48:09,895
And I did. I literally, and I don't know why that seemed like a good idea.
675
00:48:10,575 --> 00:48:13,895
And in hindsight that that was all kinds of wrong, right?
676
00:48:14,195 --> 00:48:17,475
No. And I'm smart and I'm, I know physics.
677
00:48:17,575 --> 00:48:24,015
I was a science major, I just get up a good rhythm and I'm going and I'm going.
678
00:48:24,095 --> 00:48:25,275
Then all of a sudden, donk.
679
00:48:25,615 --> 00:48:29,155
Yeah. Yeah. You kept going. So I did.
680
00:48:29,195 --> 00:48:33,215
I kept going and I flew and I had this massive bruise on my thigh,
681
00:48:33,355 --> 00:48:35,915
but it was worth it. My God.
682
00:48:36,135 --> 00:48:39,755
I mean, we still talk about that to this day. That's a memory, right? Yeah. Remember?
683
00:48:40,095 --> 00:48:44,595
Remember, Mom, when you Superman flew off the paddleboard? So there I am in
684
00:48:44,595 --> 00:48:46,255
my- That's something your grandkids are going to hear about. Yeah.
685
00:48:46,901 --> 00:48:52,281
Yeah. Yep. In my little bikini, I have my hat on, my sunglasses.
686
00:48:53,801 --> 00:48:59,561
Do it with style. I did. I did. So if you're going to fall, just go big or go home.
687
00:48:59,661 --> 00:49:03,721
And I think we all have that going for us.
688
00:49:04,661 --> 00:49:08,681
Yeah. Yeah. But I love that Stano paddleboard. I love it.
689
00:49:09,301 --> 00:49:13,661
I've been riding it a while. I mean, I haven't been on it in like two years.
690
00:49:13,661 --> 00:49:16,401
Oh, God, if I was you, I'd be on that every day.
691
00:49:16,541 --> 00:49:22,321
It's, I find it so it's the, well, that in rock climbing. Okay.
692
00:49:22,641 --> 00:49:26,141
It's something that I can do that just I go into the zone.
693
00:49:26,581 --> 00:49:30,741
I'm not trying to work hard. I'm just having fun.
694
00:49:30,961 --> 00:49:34,881
And I have no ownership over what I'm doing. There's no, I'm not looking at
695
00:49:34,881 --> 00:49:37,921
my watch going, God, I'm only sub 10.
696
00:49:38,201 --> 00:49:42,601
You know, I got to go a little faster. You know, I never think that.
697
00:49:42,601 --> 00:49:47,401
That I just am able to zone out and just be happy.
698
00:49:47,921 --> 00:49:51,741
Rock climbing does that for me, too. Yeah, I remember my, well,
699
00:49:51,741 --> 00:49:56,081
I'm too heavy, I think, but my arthritis and my missing fingers and stuff,
700
00:49:56,141 --> 00:49:57,321
I would never be able to do that.
701
00:49:57,621 --> 00:50:00,901
Yeah. I mean, it's something I would like to have done in my youth,
702
00:50:01,001 --> 00:50:03,841
but spent all my youth in the military.
703
00:50:04,101 --> 00:50:06,321
So I just did away, racing away.
704
00:50:07,381 --> 00:50:11,301
Not a lot of rock climbing in the Navy, huh? No, not a lot of rocks out there.
705
00:50:14,361 --> 00:50:21,361
So yeah well I wanted to tell you that you know talking about the the like re-figuring
706
00:50:21,361 --> 00:50:24,841
out what you can do was like I found this place I don't know if they're up in
707
00:50:24,841 --> 00:50:26,401
their area called the exercise coach,
708
00:50:27,915 --> 00:50:34,875
It's like a studio thing, but their whole process is isometric exercises.
709
00:50:35,295 --> 00:50:37,515
So your time under tension is constant.
710
00:50:38,635 --> 00:50:42,355
Okay. Isn't that what What's-His-Face does? The football player?
711
00:50:42,475 --> 00:50:43,595
I know nothing about football.
712
00:50:43,795 --> 00:50:47,635
The big, the 40-year-old guy. Yeah, what's his name?
713
00:50:48,435 --> 00:50:53,675
No, say it again. Who? That's the big guy, right? The big football player.
714
00:50:54,035 --> 00:50:58,395
The one that he just retired. He was married to the supermodel? Oh, Brady.
715
00:50:59,095 --> 00:51:05,075
Brady, isn't that how he trains? Right. But I guess they're proprietary machines
716
00:51:05,075 --> 00:51:07,875
that they use. They're all branded, Cut Your Size Coach.
717
00:51:08,215 --> 00:51:12,235
But you go in and it's like, so the bench press is like, then you have like
718
00:51:12,235 --> 00:51:14,895
the screen in front of you and it's showing your weight.
719
00:51:14,995 --> 00:51:19,455
But you're pressing like, so when you're pressing out, you're trying to stay on this line.
720
00:51:20,335 --> 00:51:24,135
But then when it's coming back, you're actually pressing against it to try to
721
00:51:24,135 --> 00:51:27,495
stay on the line. So your time under tension is constant.
722
00:51:28,475 --> 00:51:31,855
And you know why that also seems cool because i imagine
723
00:51:31,855 --> 00:51:34,975
you can probably see the difference between sides yeah and it's
724
00:51:34,975 --> 00:51:37,915
um it's very i i had
725
00:51:37,915 --> 00:51:40,595
my doubts kim was going to it so i said well i'll come
726
00:51:40,595 --> 00:51:43,175
with you let me see what it's doing i said well
727
00:51:43,175 --> 00:51:45,895
this looks interesting i think it might be easier on my joint you
728
00:51:45,895 --> 00:51:49,015
and i have seen so many exercise fads that yeah i know
729
00:51:49,015 --> 00:51:52,135
i've said so i you know i jumped on the package with
730
00:51:52,135 --> 00:51:54,855
her and i i'm feeling it today and it's like
731
00:51:54,855 --> 00:51:57,895
you're only doing eight reps of one exercise
732
00:51:57,895 --> 00:52:00,655
but it's like i was pushing on
733
00:52:00,655 --> 00:52:04,835
the leg press 540 pounds jesus
734
00:52:04,835 --> 00:52:08,495
yeah that's what she said i've always
735
00:52:08,495 --> 00:52:11,615
been strong in my life yeah you've always had strong by the time it gets to
736
00:52:11,615 --> 00:52:15,275
that sixth and seventh and eighth rep when you're fighting it back that's like
737
00:52:15,275 --> 00:52:22,715
four of me oh it's only two of me i don't know if i did the math you are my
738
00:52:22,715 --> 00:52:25,315
legs are shaking so Okay.
739
00:52:26,835 --> 00:52:30,115
So you know what I've been doing for strength, which is very humbling.
740
00:52:30,575 --> 00:52:35,095
I can't lift weights right now, literally, because I can't lift a weight with
741
00:52:35,095 --> 00:52:36,475
my left arm, right? Yeah.
742
00:52:36,975 --> 00:52:42,555
So I have to do some strength training. That's all. I mean, I need it.
743
00:52:43,475 --> 00:52:48,195
And so I tried Pilates. I've been doing Pilates.
744
00:52:48,375 --> 00:52:53,875
As a yoga teacher, you would think I did a lot. I've never done Pilates.
745
00:52:54,055 --> 00:52:59,715
It kicked my ass because it works muscles that you didn't know that you had.
746
00:52:59,975 --> 00:53:02,415
Right. It's like a whole body type thing, right?
747
00:53:02,755 --> 00:53:05,815
Yes. So I've been doing that and I get bored.
748
00:53:06,075 --> 00:53:09,675
I get bored with Pilates. I got to say, it's just a little too slow for me.
749
00:53:09,715 --> 00:53:17,075
So I tried barre. Now, R is like Pilates, a little faster, a little more up-tempo.
750
00:53:17,115 --> 00:53:21,735
So, I tend to like the bar a little better just because I think it suits my
751
00:53:21,735 --> 00:53:25,335
nervous system, just kind of keeping me engaged. But R...
752
00:53:26,295 --> 00:53:31,075
It's also kind of doing that for me. Like my abs, I did some ab work and I was
753
00:53:31,075 --> 00:53:35,115
sore, like right underneath, like my solar plexus. Oh my God.
754
00:53:35,755 --> 00:53:41,495
Like, I'm like, why is that sore? What did I do? You know, I'll have some weird,
755
00:53:41,515 --> 00:53:44,915
weird muscle in my legs sore or just.
756
00:53:45,495 --> 00:53:48,555
That's what I mean. That's how this was. I woke up this morning and I had my
757
00:53:48,555 --> 00:53:49,835
second workout yesterday.
758
00:53:50,475 --> 00:53:54,035
I was like, I feel sore. Yep. Yeah.
759
00:53:54,955 --> 00:53:59,715
I didn't, Because, I mean, yeah, it felt like, I mean, I was definitely sweating by the end. Yeah.
760
00:54:00,135 --> 00:54:05,775
But. Well, yeah, it's, I do my strength when I get off the bike.
761
00:54:05,895 --> 00:54:08,355
And, oh, my God, I'm like, I'm dying.
762
00:54:08,515 --> 00:54:13,835
I mean, it's, and most of the workouts, I can't do it all.
763
00:54:14,275 --> 00:54:18,775
You know, it's because it's so different from anything that I've ever done.
764
00:54:18,915 --> 00:54:20,375
You're in the studio for this, right?
765
00:54:20,755 --> 00:54:24,015
No, you know what I use? No, I use Peloton.
766
00:54:24,515 --> 00:54:27,975
So again, not sponsored by Peloton, but more than willing to be.
767
00:54:28,535 --> 00:54:32,295
No, we have a Peloton bike. So it comes with all those classes.
768
00:54:32,595 --> 00:54:36,595
Bill likes the bike. I ride the Zwift a lot more. I like the Peloton.
769
00:54:36,775 --> 00:54:40,015
I mean, I don't have my Peloton anymore. I got rid of it when I bought the house.
770
00:54:40,095 --> 00:54:42,715
The yoga. I love the yoga.
771
00:54:42,995 --> 00:54:47,115
And I am a yoga snob. Okay? Because, I mean, not only am I a teacher,
772
00:54:47,255 --> 00:54:48,735
I've been doing it for 20 years.
773
00:54:50,155 --> 00:54:53,735
I'm a huge snob. I like what I like.
774
00:54:54,015 --> 00:55:03,475
But I found an instructor on Peloton, Ross Braeburn, and he is really into biomechanics
775
00:55:03,475 --> 00:55:07,215
and just like yoga for nerds.
776
00:55:07,215 --> 00:55:13,475
And he also does blend the Zen part of it, you know, but teaching your body
777
00:55:13,475 --> 00:55:16,035
when to engage and when not to engage.
778
00:55:16,415 --> 00:55:23,435
And that's been really, really, really helpful for me. I used to like the meditation on Peloton also.
779
00:55:24,255 --> 00:55:28,575
You know, it's funny that you say that because I just did one of his sleep meditations,
780
00:55:28,635 --> 00:55:31,995
same guy, just last week for the first time.
781
00:55:32,435 --> 00:55:36,915
And all I remember is the very beginning. I was like, welcome,
782
00:55:37,135 --> 00:55:39,635
welcome to your Peloton sleep meditation.
783
00:55:39,915 --> 00:55:43,055
And dude, I was out. I don't know what happened.
784
00:55:43,895 --> 00:55:46,895
Because I suffer from wicked insomnia. I always have. Again,
785
00:55:46,995 --> 00:55:50,215
night person on a day person's schedule. Yeah.
786
00:55:51,575 --> 00:55:58,255
I sleep, but my Garmin tracks your sleep on your watch. And my scores always suck.
787
00:55:59,075 --> 00:56:02,615
I'm so jealous of Kim. She'll wake up and it's like two and a half hours of
788
00:56:02,615 --> 00:56:04,675
REM sleep. And mine, I had like 32 minutes.
789
00:56:05,435 --> 00:56:09,735
Yeah. No, that's... And mine was always at the end. But my REM is always at the end.
790
00:56:10,095 --> 00:56:13,735
Versus like as soon as she falls asleep, she'll have this huge REM. Yeah.
791
00:56:14,635 --> 00:56:19,075
You know, what's weird is sometimes at the fire department,
792
00:56:19,195 --> 00:56:25,635
I'll fall asleep for like an hour and I fall into that REM sleep and then the
793
00:56:25,635 --> 00:56:30,415
tone will go off for a call and I wake up and I'm like, who,
794
00:56:30,555 --> 00:56:33,655
who, who, where, what, who am I? Yeah.
795
00:56:33,995 --> 00:56:36,855
And I'm like, dude, I'm like, I don't know what's going on.
796
00:56:36,935 --> 00:56:40,855
I'm like, do I have pants on? like it's like it's like that it's like that scene
797
00:56:40,855 --> 00:56:52,215
in uh stepbrothers and the mom's like the mom's like what are you two dreaming about,
798
00:56:53,755 --> 00:56:59,115
but but the thing that's and that rarely happens at work just because we sleep
799
00:56:59,115 --> 00:57:03,435
with the radios on so it's hard to sleep through that but when it does happen
800
00:57:03,435 --> 00:57:10,455
like i'm a paramedic i gotta get my I shit together really fast and our drive times are not that long.
801
00:57:10,515 --> 00:57:14,915
So realistically, I have about five minutes to just get myself in gear and get
802
00:57:14,915 --> 00:57:18,175
an autopilot in case what we're dealing with is very serious.
803
00:57:19,635 --> 00:57:23,075
So usually I'm just, you know, talking to my partner on the way there like,
804
00:57:23,215 --> 00:57:24,555
where are we going? Yeah.
805
00:57:25,188 --> 00:57:28,388
What happened? How old are they? What happened?
806
00:57:28,568 --> 00:57:33,568
No, we don't need mutual aid. No, no, we don't need extra ALS.
807
00:57:33,588 --> 00:57:35,368
No, no. Okay, I got this. I got this. We're good.
808
00:57:35,908 --> 00:57:37,768
Obviously, your partner wakes up faster.
809
00:57:38,928 --> 00:57:42,948
You know what? Fortunately, it happens to all of us, but typically doesn't happen
810
00:57:42,948 --> 00:57:44,608
to both of us at the same time. Okay.
811
00:57:44,908 --> 00:57:47,428
Where one person is in a deep sleep. I think about this. It's like,
812
00:57:47,468 --> 00:57:52,088
even though I've been out of the Navy for about 40 years now.
813
00:57:53,308 --> 00:57:58,948
Yeah. Yeah, close to 40 years now. I just think being in it 10 years and having
814
00:57:58,948 --> 00:58:01,428
to wake up and work like that.
815
00:58:01,748 --> 00:58:05,808
Yep. It's like, you know, like Desert Storm. We know when the one went off for
816
00:58:05,808 --> 00:58:07,768
Joe Gorders, you know, this is not a drill.
817
00:58:07,808 --> 00:58:11,668
When that hits you, you come down to the rack and you're on watch,
818
00:58:11,748 --> 00:58:14,388
controlling the aircraft, you know, coming off the carrier.
819
00:58:15,168 --> 00:58:18,248
That's like, you get in that mode. I don't think that ever leaves you.
820
00:58:18,648 --> 00:58:21,508
Yeah. So I think that's part of it. yeah and that's
821
00:58:21,508 --> 00:58:24,288
me you know whether somebody's in a cardiac arrest or it's
822
00:58:24,288 --> 00:58:28,428
an accident or you know god how many times i've been on the side of the highway
823
00:58:28,428 --> 00:58:32,688
you know at two o'clock in the morning you know standing next to a dead deer
824
00:58:32,688 --> 00:58:37,508
or something like you're somebody that's hit something awful or you know yeah
825
00:58:37,508 --> 00:58:44,208
yep yep it's it's it's definitely a weird it's a weird thing one of the things i do,
826
00:58:45,336 --> 00:58:51,936
To orient. I do this, it's not just to orient, but if we have a big call coming
827
00:58:51,936 --> 00:58:56,016
in, something that is going to be really hard, on the way there,
828
00:58:56,156 --> 00:58:59,916
I talked to my partner and I was like, okay, this is what we're going to do.
829
00:59:00,736 --> 00:59:04,336
You're going to go and do this. I'm going to do this. I'm going to get this med ready.
830
00:59:04,436 --> 00:59:09,036
Blah, blah, blah. You know, we actually make a plan. And that's really helpful,
831
00:59:09,136 --> 00:59:15,376
even if I'm not tired, just because you got to know where everybody's going to be.
832
00:59:16,396 --> 00:59:20,036
So, yeah, hope for the best. Hope for the best, plan for the worst.
833
00:59:21,736 --> 00:59:27,196
But also, parenting is like that, too. Parenting, I've had to wake up,
834
00:59:27,236 --> 00:59:31,396
and all of a sudden you have a kid standing over your bed throwing up.
835
00:59:32,156 --> 00:59:35,196
What's going on? Parenting is a lot like that.
836
00:59:35,276 --> 00:59:39,896
Like just going into the zone, you know, a kid standing next to the side of
837
00:59:39,896 --> 00:59:41,816
your bed going, I think I'm going to throw up.
838
00:59:42,556 --> 00:59:45,876
And like, hold on. And then you then literally jump out of bed,
839
00:59:45,976 --> 00:59:47,916
pick up the kid. You're running with.
840
00:59:48,356 --> 00:59:51,616
Remember that old movie, Parenthood with Steve Martin? Yes.
841
00:59:51,856 --> 00:59:55,676
Remember that scene when the little girl's not feeling well and he goes,
842
00:59:55,756 --> 00:59:58,956
do you want to throw up? She goes, okay. Yep.
843
00:59:59,956 --> 01:00:05,156
You know, that's when you take your kid and you run into the bathroom and then
844
01:00:05,156 --> 01:00:07,996
both of you are half asleep, like, what's going on?
845
01:00:08,216 --> 01:00:11,056
What's going on? Yeah.
846
01:00:13,136 --> 01:00:18,416
Or when I remember my daughter, God, I don't know, she was, maybe she was 12,
847
01:00:18,656 --> 01:00:20,496
Shay, when she had pneumonia.
848
01:00:20,696 --> 01:00:23,616
Oh, God, waking up in the middle of the night to her not being able to breathe.
849
01:00:24,396 --> 01:00:29,656
You know, those kind of things. Like, oh God, okay, get your head together.
850
01:00:29,836 --> 01:00:34,136
I don't know what's going on, but you just go into the zone and you just do it. Yeah.
851
01:00:35,891 --> 01:00:39,951
Well, you get conditioned for it, you know, as a parent. I don't miss it.
852
01:00:40,711 --> 01:00:43,911
Yeah. I don't miss it. Well, no. I've had a child when I grew up.
853
01:00:44,851 --> 01:00:47,231
Jeez, our youngest is now 14.
854
01:00:48,451 --> 01:00:52,391
I was going to ask you. I don't know what she was. I remember she was.
855
01:00:52,391 --> 01:00:58,051
Yeah, so our girls are 14, 18, and our boys are 21, 23.
856
01:00:58,051 --> 01:01:01,431
Three and so we're just like
857
01:01:01,431 --> 01:01:05,031
at we're seeing glimpses of
858
01:01:05,031 --> 01:01:07,751
mc of empty nest we see glimpses of what
859
01:01:07,751 --> 01:01:10,631
it might be like have you seen that
860
01:01:10,631 --> 01:01:13,611
comedian that's from tennessee she's like an old i want
861
01:01:13,611 --> 01:01:16,871
to say an old woman but she's probably in her 50s i mean she's
862
01:01:16,871 --> 01:01:19,931
i don't think she's old like she's hilarious but she
863
01:01:19,931 --> 01:01:23,291
talks about that that these i had my four babies you
864
01:01:23,291 --> 01:01:26,311
know her son and then her three date were two baby girls
865
01:01:26,311 --> 01:01:29,091
or whatever they are she goes and those girls grew up and left
866
01:01:29,091 --> 01:01:33,711
me alone with their father yeah that's that's
867
01:01:33,711 --> 01:01:37,051
pretty much that's pretty much what's going to happen so you have to go to communication
868
01:01:37,051 --> 01:01:42,371
classes because we didn't know how to talk to each other yeah i can't i yeah
869
01:01:42,371 --> 01:01:47,151
those who have led the way before me and then i will be leaning heavily on you
870
01:01:47,151 --> 01:01:51,351
when we get i mean so we have we have quite a while i mean I mean, Maeve's 14,
871
01:01:51,611 --> 01:01:55,051
but I mean, she's definitely going to go to college.
872
01:01:55,951 --> 01:02:01,191
Maeve has been obsessed with being a, she wants to be a trauma neurosurgeon.
873
01:02:01,551 --> 01:02:07,791
That's what she was since about 10 years old. So we know she's going to college.
874
01:02:07,911 --> 01:02:09,531
She's been talking. Very specific thing.
875
01:02:10,091 --> 01:02:12,351
I know. Trauma neurosurgeon.
876
01:02:12,951 --> 01:02:18,191
Yeah, yeah. Yeah. And like, she worries about it to the fact that she'll be
877
01:02:18,191 --> 01:02:21,211
like, mom, how do I know exactly what I want to specialize in?
878
01:02:21,271 --> 01:02:22,771
I was like, sweetie, that's what medical school's for.
879
01:02:23,011 --> 01:02:25,511
I was like, you're going to get to go through the rounds. You get to try them
880
01:02:25,511 --> 01:02:30,711
all out. And I go, you get to see who your people are and where your niche is.
881
01:02:31,131 --> 01:02:34,671
And I said, don't worry about it. But that's the type of thing she'll think about now.
882
01:02:34,871 --> 01:02:39,911
But yeah, so, but yeah, so, but that's four years.
883
01:02:40,671 --> 01:02:43,911
Yeah. Think back four years ago. That wasn't that long ago.
884
01:02:44,311 --> 01:02:48,571
No. I know. So I'm like, yeah, it's four years. I got plenty of time,
885
01:02:48,631 --> 01:02:50,291
but... Four years went by.
886
01:02:51,411 --> 01:02:55,031
Yeah. Wasn't like the pandemic four years ago? How long? What year is it?
887
01:02:55,051 --> 01:02:57,111
No, the pandemic's only three. That was before the pandemic.
888
01:02:57,691 --> 01:03:01,271
So one year before the pandemic. No, it's been four years because,
889
01:03:01,311 --> 01:03:05,491
yeah, my mom passed from that on April 2nd of 2020.
890
01:03:05,991 --> 01:03:09,031
Oh, wow. So it's just four years. Wow.
891
01:03:10,071 --> 01:03:13,711
Oh, so you just hit the anniversary of her death. Yeah. Wow.
892
01:03:14,311 --> 01:03:19,991
Yeah. Wow. So, and the anniversary of Kim's mother's death is shortly, too.
893
01:03:20,131 --> 01:03:22,391
So, we both have the same year.
894
01:03:22,551 --> 01:03:25,411
Her mother's only, her mother's been gone a year now.
895
01:03:26,350 --> 01:03:31,610
Well, one of the things about getting older and hitting 50,
896
01:03:31,790 --> 01:03:36,990
and I feel, I say this all the time, I feel like Murtaugh, Murtaugh,
897
01:03:36,990 --> 01:03:41,770
Murtaugh in Lethal Weapon, where I just like look at all the bullshit going
898
01:03:41,770 --> 01:03:43,730
on and I'm like, I'm getting too old for this shit.
899
01:03:43,830 --> 01:03:46,610
I'm getting too old for this shit. I have no tolerance.
900
01:03:46,910 --> 01:03:48,730
I have no tolerance for bullshit.
901
01:03:49,890 --> 01:03:53,770
Well, yeah, I love, yeah, it's like I always say, I don't know what you can
902
01:03:53,770 --> 01:03:56,090
say on there, but, you know. You can say whatever you want.
903
01:03:56,590 --> 01:04:01,210
Okay, so when you're growing up, you're one with all these fucks to give.
904
01:04:01,810 --> 01:04:04,290
So you give a fuck about everything, you know, when you're little.
905
01:04:04,510 --> 01:04:06,890
And when you're a teenager, everything, you give a fuck about everything.
906
01:04:06,990 --> 01:04:10,330
It's like, when you get older, the older you get, you run out of fucks to give.
907
01:04:10,530 --> 01:04:13,790
You just don't give a fuck anymore. I don't care about it. I don't care.
908
01:04:15,530 --> 01:04:20,230
If you want to vote for that guy, I don't care. Do your thing. I really don't care.
909
01:04:20,970 --> 01:04:23,810
I'll be dead in 10 years anyway. the episode that
910
01:04:23,810 --> 01:04:27,610
sean talked about the exorcist scene
911
01:04:27,610 --> 01:04:30,350
with the cross i can't even go there
912
01:04:30,350 --> 01:04:35,310
when he said that i said holy crap right out of the gun i mean literally like
913
01:04:35,310 --> 01:04:38,430
hey sean what's going on boom i was like yeah we can say anything on this podcast
914
01:04:38,430 --> 01:04:45,290
so we we never edit content ever i never did either i never liked to no online
915
01:04:45,290 --> 01:04:49,150
because i ever used to edit but i i would never who do it.
916
01:04:49,290 --> 01:04:53,130
No, I mean, we've had to edit, like, I don't know if one of us had to go to
917
01:04:53,130 --> 01:04:56,310
the bathroom or if one of us lost an internet connection or something like that.
918
01:04:56,430 --> 01:04:59,110
But that's the thing about this podcast.
919
01:04:59,430 --> 01:05:04,710
This is real. And so now, so the people listening to this podcast.
920
01:05:05,110 --> 01:05:09,990
You'll hear, you know, the edited version for sound, right? That's it.
921
01:05:10,070 --> 01:05:12,950
I just use the program to do
922
01:05:12,950 --> 01:05:16,250
sound editing but youtube it is right it
923
01:05:16,250 --> 01:05:20,570
is what it is yep youtube it is what it is forgetting that
924
01:05:20,570 --> 01:05:23,330
i'm on camera and doing this yeah yeah yeah you
925
01:05:23,330 --> 01:05:29,350
haven't been picking your nose though just in your defense no you did not but
926
01:05:29,350 --> 01:05:33,510
yeah so no that's the that's the premise we're just we're just putting it all
927
01:05:33,510 --> 01:05:38,570
out here and i'm who i am and you're who you are and sean's who he is and and
928
01:05:38,570 --> 01:05:42,830
we when i again when When we start doing, like,
929
01:05:42,910 --> 01:05:46,470
I don't know, endurance stuff or when we get outside or whatever it is,
930
01:05:46,690 --> 01:05:49,910
just those barriers are gone and it's lovely.
931
01:05:50,250 --> 01:05:53,310
And, you know, and I also think that's the other reason I like being in EMS
932
01:05:53,310 --> 01:05:58,730
because we spend so much time, I spend so much time with my partners sometimes
933
01:05:58,730 --> 01:06:01,370
that all those walls are gone.
934
01:06:01,370 --> 01:06:06,610
You know, when you've been in a car at,
935
01:06:06,650 --> 01:06:11,290
you know, one o'clock in the morning treating somebody that has cardiac arrest
936
01:06:11,290 --> 01:06:18,230
and, you know, and hypothermia and, you know, you get to know each other really well. You're young.
937
01:06:19,104 --> 01:06:23,124
Well, the military is like that. You go through so much crap for 10 years.
938
01:06:23,184 --> 01:06:25,404
Those guys are almost deeper.
939
01:06:25,884 --> 01:06:28,164
It's a deeper relationship than your own family.
940
01:06:28,684 --> 01:06:32,644
Yeah. You know, because, you know, you just see all this crap together.
941
01:06:33,624 --> 01:06:40,484
I said that to Bill. It was a couple years ago because I'd be on a shift with my partners.
942
01:06:40,664 --> 01:06:45,664
And let's say I'm on for, I mean, I could do anywhere from like 12 to 48 hours.
943
01:06:45,884 --> 01:06:48,944
Most of the time I'm doing 12s right now. occasionally I'll work
944
01:06:48,944 --> 01:06:51,844
at 24 that's pretty rare right now but so but even
945
01:06:51,844 --> 01:06:54,984
with 12 I spend 12 hours with my partner or partners
946
01:06:54,984 --> 01:06:57,824
we eat together we're literally
947
01:06:57,824 --> 01:07:02,284
sleep we sleep together in the sense that there's cube that you know like cubicle
948
01:07:02,284 --> 01:07:06,184
walls in between our beds that's how we sleep so you know we sleep together
949
01:07:06,184 --> 01:07:11,304
we eat together sometimes exercise together what you're just together and then
950
01:07:11,304 --> 01:07:15,204
all of a sudden you get off shift and it's like it feels weird that they're They're not there.
951
01:07:16,604 --> 01:07:19,824
And I'm like, why am I still texting this person?
952
01:07:19,904 --> 01:07:24,244
We're not at work anymore, you know, or whatever it is. Or you have all these,
953
01:07:24,284 --> 01:07:27,364
we have a lot of inside jokes that nobody else would get.
954
01:07:27,504 --> 01:07:31,844
And I said that to Bill one day. I go, sometimes it feels weird coming home
955
01:07:31,844 --> 01:07:36,304
after shift, like being here when I've been with the same couple people for
956
01:07:36,304 --> 01:07:37,624
so long. And he goes, oh, yeah.
957
01:07:37,724 --> 01:07:43,084
He goes, the military is just like that, you know. And Bill explained how he'd
958
01:07:43,084 --> 01:07:46,844
be doing something with a group of people for 30 days straight.
959
01:07:47,004 --> 01:07:49,584
Or he'd be hiding in the woods.
960
01:07:49,784 --> 01:07:53,224
I say hiding in the woods. He's a sniper, whatever that's called.
961
01:07:53,344 --> 01:07:56,204
I don't think they call it hiding. But setting up in the woods.
962
01:07:56,244 --> 01:08:01,004
And he'd be laying in the same position for hours just with somebody right now.
963
01:08:01,364 --> 01:08:07,584
So he gets it, which is fortunate. A lot of people, a lot of spouses that are
964
01:08:07,584 --> 01:08:10,004
not EMS don't get it very hard.
965
01:08:10,244 --> 01:08:16,884
Right. And it's like, you know, it takes a special person to be a Navy man. Yeah. And stay loyal.
966
01:08:17,584 --> 01:08:20,664
Yeah. There's plenty of people that aren't. That's true. You know,
967
01:08:20,684 --> 01:08:23,744
you're with these guys for seven months.
968
01:08:24,384 --> 01:08:27,824
And then you come home and then you're not with these guys anymore. And it's like...
969
01:08:28,364 --> 01:08:32,664
I can't imagine that. Yeah. And especially on your boats, ships,
970
01:08:32,824 --> 01:08:35,584
what are they called? Ships. Ships. Boats fit on ships.
971
01:08:36,164 --> 01:08:40,544
Boats fit on ships. Okay. So when you're on air, I'm very clear about what I don't know.
972
01:08:40,644 --> 01:08:44,444
I just, the greatest football player of all time, that's what they call him,
973
01:08:44,484 --> 01:08:46,384
the goat, right? I didn't know his name. I don't know.
974
01:08:46,484 --> 01:08:50,664
I don't think he's the greatest of all time. Come on. Well, that's what they,
975
01:08:50,724 --> 01:08:53,264
that's, I can't. That's what they say in New England.
976
01:08:54,004 --> 01:08:57,004
Oh, yeah, absolutely. Well, there are signs.
977
01:08:58,471 --> 01:09:01,671
Oh you don't figure that out no wait bill
978
01:09:01,671 --> 01:09:04,591
had to tell me bill had to tell me what it meant i was like why are they calling the
979
01:09:04,591 --> 01:09:08,971
football player a goat well that's mean yeah so
980
01:09:08,971 --> 01:09:16,731
yeah i i i i i miss popular culture you know i just it goes right over my head
981
01:09:16,731 --> 01:09:22,151
you know i'm into a lot of obscure things and you know i'm not normal but you
982
01:09:22,151 --> 01:09:27,211
know hey someone loves you yeah yeah Yeah, when it's important,
983
01:09:27,411 --> 01:09:29,471
I find out what it is, you know?
984
01:09:30,291 --> 01:09:35,591
Tom Brady being the GOAT is not important to you. Oh, God. So it's fake news.
985
01:09:35,951 --> 01:09:41,431
Okay, when what's his name? Oh, shit. Remember the Bronco Chase? The white Bronco Chase?
986
01:09:42,031 --> 01:09:49,651
What's his name? OJ Simpson. So I was in my early 20s living in Austin, Texas.
987
01:09:50,531 --> 01:09:54,491
And during that Bronco Chase, I was sitting around with my friends.
988
01:09:54,491 --> 01:09:56,971
Were watching this Bronco chase, I actually said this.
989
01:09:57,131 --> 01:10:03,771
I said, man, I said, I would be a really good jury member to pick for this guy's
990
01:10:03,771 --> 01:10:06,651
trial because I've never watched one of his basketball games.
991
01:10:07,211 --> 01:10:12,891
I bet you haven't. In the entire room, the entire room, everybody just went
992
01:10:12,891 --> 01:10:14,131
dead silent and looked at me.
993
01:10:14,551 --> 01:10:17,851
I was like, I haven't. And I was like, I just don't watch a lot of basketball.
994
01:10:20,091 --> 01:10:22,031
And someone's like, Meg. You can watch all the basketball you want.
995
01:10:22,071 --> 01:10:27,071
You just can't watch one of So like, Meg, he doesn't play basketball. He's a football player.
996
01:10:27,511 --> 01:10:31,951
Like, was. I was like, oh, okay.
997
01:10:32,031 --> 01:10:37,151
Well, yeah, my point still stands about being a juror because I didn't even,
998
01:10:37,191 --> 01:10:41,291
I wouldn't have known who this guy was from a whole lot of the right choice, right? Right. Yeah.
999
01:10:41,771 --> 01:10:46,171
Until the Bronco chase, until everybody told me. So I, I, you know,
1000
01:10:46,191 --> 01:10:50,351
there's, those are key moments in my life where I don't know that I was embarrassed.
1001
01:10:50,651 --> 01:10:53,611
I don't really get easily embarrassed, but I just, you know,
1002
01:10:53,611 --> 01:10:55,871
in the whole room stops and everybody looks at you.
1003
01:10:56,591 --> 01:11:03,771
That's funny. It's like, cause I think everybody thought I was joking and I
1004
01:11:03,771 --> 01:11:06,491
was like, no, I'd be good.
1005
01:11:06,491 --> 01:11:10,711
I don't know who he is yeah you know he was supposed to be he was the first
1006
01:11:10,711 --> 01:11:17,291
choice to play the terminator yeah whoa schwarzenegger talks about that in a
1007
01:11:17,291 --> 01:11:22,511
couple of interviews that they wow thought that oj simpson would be the terminator
1008
01:11:22,511 --> 01:11:24,871
and schwarzenegger was going to play reese.
1009
01:11:26,009 --> 01:11:31,049
The other guy. Yeah. I know, I know. I'm trying to, like, wrap my head around that.
1010
01:11:31,249 --> 01:11:33,989
I know. That wouldn't have worked, I don't think, because Schwarzenegger is
1011
01:11:33,989 --> 01:11:38,469
more of a robotic. He was perfect for the role. Yeah. Yeah.
1012
01:11:39,249 --> 01:11:44,909
Yeah, and I got to tell you, Linda Hamilton, in the second one... Badass. Yeah.
1013
01:11:45,069 --> 01:11:47,729
Well, because the first one, she's kind of annoying because she just screams
1014
01:11:47,729 --> 01:11:51,369
all the time. Yeah, she's a little girly girl. But in the second one, she's a badass.
1015
01:11:51,509 --> 01:11:54,849
Yeah, but then the opening scene, or I think it was the opening scene of the
1016
01:11:54,849 --> 01:12:00,329
second one where she's doing all the pull-ups and she's got all that crazy hair.
1017
01:12:00,809 --> 01:12:05,089
It's like that woman in the Marine in Alien, the second Alien movie,
1018
01:12:05,309 --> 01:12:07,869
when she's doing those split-shit-ups.
1019
01:12:08,329 --> 01:12:12,629
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Or even Sigourney Weaver when she's like,
1020
01:12:12,709 --> 01:12:15,049
leave her alone, you bitch.
1021
01:12:15,449 --> 01:12:19,809
Remember that? Those are just iconic women's, female scenes.
1022
01:12:20,209 --> 01:12:22,509
Like, oh my God, yeah.
1023
01:12:22,929 --> 01:12:26,709
The second Alien movie was funny because they had the space marines,
1024
01:12:26,769 --> 01:12:28,369
but the girl was the badass.
1025
01:12:28,929 --> 01:12:33,049
Yep, she was. The one guy, I can't remember his name now, he's passed away,
1026
01:12:33,189 --> 01:12:36,649
but he was like the little girl leader. He was like the one scared.
1027
01:12:37,109 --> 01:12:39,189
Mm-hmm. Yep. They're going to kill us, man.
1028
01:12:39,989 --> 01:12:42,749
Yeah. Who is that? I can't remember his name now. He's in Twister.
1029
01:12:43,369 --> 01:12:47,969
Yeah. I know who you're talking about. I know exactly. In science.
1030
01:12:48,929 --> 01:12:52,949
Yes. Yeah, yeah. I can never remember those names. But yeah,
1031
01:12:53,049 --> 01:12:56,849
yeah. Yeah, those are the badass female characters that I was drawn to.
1032
01:12:57,109 --> 01:13:03,069
And she's still pretty cool in the last Terminator. She was in the last Terminator.
1033
01:13:03,229 --> 01:13:06,969
She's aged very, very well. She still seems really strong.
1034
01:13:07,469 --> 01:13:11,089
But, you know, the picture of her there with, is it a rifle?
1035
01:13:11,529 --> 01:13:14,609
Or the automatic weapon? I can't remember. She has the automatic weapon over
1036
01:13:14,609 --> 01:13:15,789
her shoulder and the cigarette.
1037
01:13:16,289 --> 01:13:20,509
And the tank top. Like, yeah. Yeah.
1038
01:13:21,129 --> 01:13:23,149
Yeah, yeah. You're all gonna die.
1039
01:13:24,049 --> 01:13:25,529
You're all gonna die.
1040
01:13:28,669 --> 01:13:32,189
Well, I'm gonna have, no, no. And I'm gonna have trouble figuring out what to
1041
01:13:32,189 --> 01:13:35,769
name this episode because, God, there's so, the name and the picture,
1042
01:13:35,829 --> 01:13:36,889
we're gonna have so many.
1043
01:13:37,489 --> 01:13:41,729
Yeah, we kind of went all over the place. Yeah. Which I knew was gonna happen.
1044
01:13:42,169 --> 01:13:44,449
But that's me this morning. She goes, do you know what you're gonna tell about?
1045
01:13:44,609 --> 01:13:46,529
No, we're just gonna talk.
1046
01:13:47,489 --> 01:13:51,029
I've talked about, I have learned a lot on this podcast from Sean,
1047
01:13:51,169 --> 01:13:54,409
and I am one that prepares.
1048
01:13:54,889 --> 01:13:57,409
I am one that researches. I am one that studies.
1049
01:13:57,909 --> 01:14:04,289
I prep. And then Sean comes on the podcast and he's like, I'm like, what are we doing?
1050
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You know, before I'm like, what are we going to talk about? Sean's like,
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I don't know. We'll just talk like we always do. I'm like.
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Okay, Sean, I'm like, I don't know if you've met me, but I don't really.
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I mean, and really, I have learned how to just sort of go with it like we are outside.
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The only episode that we really prepped for, and I want to say it was more Sean
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than me, was the two episode that we did about when I almost died on the bike crash.
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Sean did that very, very well.
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But I had to tell him like before
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that episode i was like you have to have complete
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control over this episode because if you don't
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then i will take over and what i say is not truthful and
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it's not that i'm telling lies but i i
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i don't i didn't want to talk about
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that and try to sound a certain way right
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01:14:59,783 --> 01:15:02,683
yeah i wanted to just to
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just be real so that was the only podcast that
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i think he had to change yeah i like those
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and do you you want to know something i've
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never listened to one of our podcasts yeah i know
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i edit it i edit them i hear them but
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sean's the one that listens to them i don't listen to them post yeah i used
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to in the beginning but what near the end when i right before i stopped is like
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i stopped listening to them somebody would tell me though you sounded weird
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01:15:29,943 --> 01:15:35,583
in this one spot then i'll go back and like oh yeah i do oh well well it's if
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i listen to the the podcast,
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I don't want to change what I do.
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Because I don't want to listen to myself and go, oh, Meg, you're too fill in the blank, whatever.
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You sound too, you're too this, you're too that.
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So, I mean, I hear the podcast all the time when I'm editing it,
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but I've never listened to one all the way through just because I feel like
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it just keeps me more genuine.
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But I got to tell you The podcasts that need a lot of editing or the music podcasts
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01:16:05,743 --> 01:16:09,983
that we have Sam on, those are freaking funny. Oh, my God.
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01:16:10,383 --> 01:16:13,243
I love it. I've been talking about music, so we can do that, too.
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01:16:13,663 --> 01:16:18,763
Yeah, yeah, yeah. And, yeah, some of the music podcasts we've done,
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01:16:18,923 --> 01:16:24,023
I end up just laughing as I'm editing. Like, oh, my God, this is so funny.
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Or when you see like or we're all jamming out to like guns and roses or or eric
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01:16:32,403 --> 01:16:37,483
clapton or the dead or i don't know what what what we were doing but yeah it
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so it's all good it keeps me genuine and,
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yeah yeah so now you had a chore you had to pick a song i forgot about it yeah
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01:16:50,983 --> 01:16:54,783
so well i'm gonna I'm going to give you two minutes to think because I want
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to remind you and everybody that's listening that we need everybody to follow us.
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01:16:59,923 --> 01:17:03,263
Facebook and Instagram are the two big ones we need. You follow us.
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01:17:03,403 --> 01:17:05,283
You follow us. So Zendurance now.
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01:17:06,523 --> 01:17:09,023
The new one, we were going to do the...
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01:17:10,067 --> 01:17:13,467
We were going to do the YouTube live launch.
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01:17:13,767 --> 01:17:19,207
So our YouTube has launched, but it's been more like a slow sizzle. Yeah.
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But because that day, Sean got
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01:17:21,707 --> 01:17:26,787
really sick. Sean was not feeling well that day. So we canceled the live.
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I mean, we'll probably redo it. But with that said, following our YouTube channel,
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and we are going to do something.
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I have giveaways, and I have stickers, and I have hats, and all this stuff that
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we're going to do. Stickers. We got stickers. Yeah.
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That's and yeah and and so fall and
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01:17:42,147 --> 01:17:45,227
like and also the other thing that really helps us john
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01:17:45,227 --> 01:17:47,927
is when people whatever however you listen to
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01:17:47,927 --> 01:17:50,907
this podcast whatever podcast medium you're using you
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01:17:50,907 --> 01:17:53,887
know whether it's spotify or apple or google podcasts
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01:17:53,887 --> 01:17:57,167
we're on all of them follow us follow us
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01:17:57,167 --> 01:18:00,827
just hit that little hit the follow button and then then
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01:18:00,827 --> 01:18:03,947
if you really love us like really love
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01:18:03,947 --> 01:18:07,867
us that's when you leave a five-star review you you
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01:18:07,867 --> 01:18:11,747
haven't gone the patreon route yet no no
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01:18:11,747 --> 01:18:16,007
hey i know we haven't done that we haven't
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01:18:16,007 --> 01:18:19,207
done that where that's going to be more work on you because to do the patreon
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01:18:19,207 --> 01:18:24,027
then you got to have special material or whoever does it right now right now
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01:18:24,027 --> 01:18:30,047
we're all we're all free we're all free you you get us you get us free so all
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01:18:30,047 --> 01:18:34,347
we ask of you all we need is this chair.
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And this lamp.
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That's all I need. Yeah, yeah. All I need is this lamp. Yeah.
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Okay. Those who are young will never get that reference.
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01:18:48,983 --> 01:18:52,663
It's like that episode where Sean's like, if you don't like Johnny Cash,
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01:18:52,923 --> 01:18:56,843
fuck off. I know. Everybody likes Johnny Cash. I know.
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But yeah, so it really helps us. And Sean and I started this podcast.
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We know nothing. I still know nothing. I'm doing, you know, this has all been
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organic growth and it's been great.
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01:19:10,823 --> 01:19:14,703
It still amazes me when I look at our downloads. You know, one time I was at
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work and at the fire department and people were talking about Sean.
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And I was like, and my brain just sort of skipped a beat because I was like, how do you know Sean?
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01:19:24,723 --> 01:19:26,623
And that's what I'm thinking. Why are they talking about Sean?
1130
01:19:26,743 --> 01:19:30,763
They're like, oh, the podcast. Oh, God. Yeah. Yes, they know from the podcast.
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01:19:31,783 --> 01:19:36,923
So I sometimes forget, you know, but, but yeah, it's, and if you haven't done
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01:19:36,923 --> 01:19:39,963
those things and you're listening to us, please, please do that.
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01:19:40,043 --> 01:19:43,743
It, it is like the biggest, the biggest help you can give us.
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01:19:43,743 --> 01:19:45,983
Well, you know, now that I'm on this show, you're going to probably get at least
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01:19:45,983 --> 01:19:48,423
10 more follows. Mm-hmm. I know.
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01:19:48,983 --> 01:19:55,323
Well, you're, you know, and it's interesting also to see the statistics on which episodes do well.
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01:19:56,083 --> 01:20:00,843
Yes. Your episode did really well. Phil Carcia was really popular.
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01:20:00,903 --> 01:20:05,123
And our other most popular episode, oh, God, I don't know why.
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01:20:05,263 --> 01:20:09,363
And it's titled, oh, God, it was Whale Sounds.
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01:20:09,763 --> 01:20:15,683
Because we talked about whale sounds, Chewbacca, oh, and Civil War reenactments.
1141
01:20:15,783 --> 01:20:18,623
Okay. That's literally the title of the podcast.
1142
01:20:19,003 --> 01:20:21,543
That episode was through the roof.
1143
01:20:22,883 --> 01:20:27,663
Go figure. Don't know why. It was, I'm sure it was a funny episode.
1144
01:20:28,403 --> 01:20:32,783
I don't know. But Sean was making fun of me because I was listening to whale
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01:20:32,783 --> 01:20:34,383
sounds when I was studying.
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01:20:34,603 --> 01:20:37,123
Because it really helped me concentrate, you know?
1147
01:20:40,083 --> 01:20:43,063
So, John, thank you. Thank you for coming on the podcast.
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01:20:43,063 --> 01:20:45,943
We we have been meaning to have you on
1149
01:20:45,943 --> 01:20:48,683
again as a guest we didn't know it would end up this
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01:20:48,683 --> 01:20:53,823
way but it's nice to nice to get caught up with you i'm i miss your podcast
1151
01:20:53,823 --> 01:20:59,243
because when i when when your podcast was on i was still coaching you and i
1152
01:20:59,243 --> 01:21:03,363
would listen to your podcast on my long runs and hear all the stupid shit you
1153
01:21:03,363 --> 01:21:08,023
were doing and i'd be like god damn it you weren't supposed to go that that hard.
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01:21:08,223 --> 01:21:11,143
And you did that run without eating.
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01:21:12,663 --> 01:21:18,423
And at some, sometimes I had to stop listening to you because I would be like,
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01:21:19,603 --> 01:21:21,583
God damn it. He's not listening.
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01:21:22,183 --> 01:21:26,203
Well, you know, functions are the hardest people to coach. Oh, we're the worst.
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01:21:26,343 --> 01:21:30,243
Yeah. We're the worst. We are. But coaches need coaches.
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01:21:30,603 --> 01:21:34,563
Therapists need therapists. We do. Yeah. Absolutely. All that.
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01:21:34,963 --> 01:21:38,343
All that sort of stuff. Yeah. do and,
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01:21:39,298 --> 01:21:44,118
Well, I think it's that level of knowledge that we do have a high level of knowledge,
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01:21:44,258 --> 01:21:46,338
but that's what screws our brains up a little bit.
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01:21:46,378 --> 01:21:50,158
Just because you're really smart and you know a lot of things does not mean
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01:21:50,158 --> 01:21:52,398
that you're a smart person, right?
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01:21:52,598 --> 01:21:58,198
And I do dumb things a lot and I make poor choices that in retrospect,
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01:21:58,458 --> 01:21:59,758
I should have known better.
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01:22:00,418 --> 01:22:06,558
Like tying your ankle to a kiner? Yes. It seemed like a good idea at the time.
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01:22:07,718 --> 01:22:12,398
Oh, God. God, yes, the science major. The science major did that.
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And I loved physics, too.
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And, you know, I still do to this day. But I don't know what came over me that
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day. But my girls were like, yeah, it's a great idea.
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01:22:20,698 --> 01:22:23,718
You should do it. Okay. Okay.
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So with that little diatribe there, what song are you going to take us out with?
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01:22:33,818 --> 01:22:38,338
Oh, I think I'll do the one that's been in my head all morning, late in the evening.
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01:22:38,638 --> 01:22:45,098
Late in the evening okay let's do that late in the evening well thank you john
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i appreciate your time and hopefully i'll see you soon yep anytime bye.
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