Black history fact #22: Emmett Till

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Black history fact. I'm going to bring you to.

It's something in someone that should never, ever be forgotten in the view. Don't know about him. We are going to talk about him today at lift. So this is a little bit longer. I apologize, but it's important to get all of these facts out about this young man today. We're going to [00:01:00] talk about with some considers to be the cornerstone of the civil rights movement.

We're going to talk about. Of Emmett till I wrote on my Facebook today, 14 year old emit till came to Brian's grocery store to buy candy in August of 1955, white shopkeeper, Carolyn Brian accused the black youth of flirting with her. And shortly thereafter, teal was abducted by Brian's husband and his half brother Till's tortured body was later found in the Tallahassee.

The two men were tried and acquitted, but later sold their murder confession to look magazine Till's death received international attention in is widely credited with sparking the American civil rights movement in 2017. And Brian confessed that she lied about what happened that day some 60 years after Emmett's death.

All right, let's talk and [00:02:00] learn a little bit more. It was very important figure to black history, Emmett till. So Emmett Louis till was born July 25th, 1941. He did pass away August 28th, 1955. He was born in Chicago and he was the son of Mamie Carthan from 1921 and passed away in 2003. And Louis till. It was born in 1922 and passed in 1945.

Emits mother Mamie was born in the small Delta town of Webb, Mississippi in the Delta region encompasses the large multi county area of Northwest and Mississippi in the watershed of the Yazoo and Mississippi rivers. When Carlton was two years old, her family moved to Argo, Illinois as part of the great migration of rural black.

Out of the south to the north to escape violence, lack of opportunity, [00:03:00] and an equal treatment under the law, our go receive so many Southern migrants that it was named a little Mississippi cartons mother's home was often used by other recent migraines as a way station while they were trying to find jobs and housing.

Mississippi was the poorest state in the U S in the 1950s and the Delta counties or some of the pores and Mississippi. Mamie Carthay was born in Tallahatchie county where the average income per white household in 1949 was $690. What is equivalent to $7,000 in 2016 for black families? That figure was 462 equivalent to $4,700 in 2016 in the rural areas.

Economic opportunities for blacks were almost none. They were mostly sharecroppers who lived on land owned by whites. Blacks had essentially been disenfranchised and [00:04:00] excluded from voting in the political system since 1890. When the white dominated legislator passed a new constitution that raised barriers to voter registration, whites had also passed ordinances, establishing racial segregation in Jim Crow laws made me largely raised emit with her mother.

She and Louis till separated in 1940. After she discovered that he had been unfaithful Lewis later abused her, choking her to unconsciousness to, as she responded by throwing scouting water at him for violating court orders to stay away from Amy Louis till was forced by a judge in 1943 to choose between jail or enlisting in the U S army in 1945, a few weeks before his son's fourth birthday, he was executed for the rape and murder.

Evelyn, Italian, the moment. At the age of six emit contracted polio was left him with the persistent stutter Mamie and Emmett moved to Detroit where she met and married pink [00:05:00] Bradley in 1951, Emmett preferred living in Chicago. So he returned there to live with his grandmother, his mother and stepfather joined him later that year.

After the marriage dissolved in 1952 pink Bradley returned alone to. Mamie till Bradley and emit lived together. Any busy neighborhood in Chicago, south side, near distant relatives. She began working as a civilian clerk for the U S air force for a better salary. She recalled that Emmett was industrious enough to help with chores at home.

Although he sometimes got distracted, his mother remembered that he did not know his own limitations at times. And following the couples separation and Bradley visited Mamie and began threatening. At 11 years old Emmett with the butcher knife in hand told Bradley he would kill him. If the man did not leave, usually however, Emmett was happy.

He and his cousins and friends pull pranks on each other. Emmett once took advantage of an extended car ride [00:06:00] with his friend, fell asleep and placed the friends underwear on his head. And they also spent their free time and pick up baseball games. He was a Natty dresser. He was often the center of attention among his peers.

By 1955, Emmett was stocky and muscular weighed about 150 pounds and stood five feet, four inches tall in 1955 made me till Bradley's uncle 64 year old Mose Wright visited her in imminent Chicago during the summer and told him his stories about living in the Mississippi Delta. Emmett wanted to see for himself Bradley was ready for vacation and planned to take emit with her on a trip to visit relatives in Nebraska.

But after he begged her to let him visit right. Instead she relented right. Plan to a company tale with a cousin Wheeler Parker. Another cousin Curtis Jones would join them soon. Right. Was a sharecropper and part-time minister who was often called preacher. He lived in money, Mississippi, a small town in [00:07:00] the Delta that consisted of three stores and school, a post office, a cotton gin, and a few hundred residents, eight miles north or green.

Before EMyth D party for the Delta, his mother costing him that Chicago or Mississippi, where two different worlds. And he should know how to behave in front of whites in the south. He assured her, he understood statistics on lynching began to be collected in 1882. Since that time more than 500 African Americans have been killed by extra judicial violence in Mississippi alone, and more than 3000 across us.

Most of the incidents took place between 1876 and 1930, though, far less common by the mid 1950s. These racially motivated murders still occurred throughout the south vise, publicly prohibited interracial relationships as a means to maintain white supremacy, even the suggestion of sexual contact between black men and white [00:08:00] women could carry severe penalties for blacks.

The resurgence of the enforcement of such Jim Crow laws was evident following world war two. When African-American veterans started pressing for equal rights in the south racial tensions increase of the United States Supreme court, 1954 decision in brown vs board of education to end segregation in public education, which it ruled as unconstitutional.

Many segregationists believed the ruling would lead to interracial dating. White strongly resisted the court's ruling one Virginia county Coles all is public schools to prevent integration. Others jurisdiction simply ignored the ruling. In other ways, whites use stronger measures to keep blacks.

Politically disenfranchised was they had been since the turn of the century segregation in the south was used to constrain blacks forcefully from any similars of socially. Uh, we before chiller Robert and Mississippi, a black activist named Lamar Smith was shot [00:09:00] and killed in front of the county courthouse and Brookhaven for political organizing, three white suspects were arrested, but they were soon released till arrived in money, Mississippi on August 21st, 1955.

On August 24th, he and cousin Curtis Jones skipped church where his great uncle Mose Wright was preaching and joined some local boys as they went to Brian's grocery and meat market to buy candy. The teenagers were children of sharecroppers and had been picking cotton all day. The market mostly served the local share carpet population.

It was owned by white. 24 year old Roy Bryant and his 21 year old wife, Carolyn Carolyn was alone in the front of the store that day. Her sister-in-law was in the rear of the store, watching children Jones left till with the older boys while Jones played checkers across the street. The facts of what took place in the store are still disputed.

According to what Joan said at the time. The other [00:10:00] boys reported that teal had a photograph of an integrated class at the school. He attended in Chicago until brag to the boys at the white children in the picture were his friends. He pointed to a white girl in the picture or referred to a picture of a white girl that had come with his new wallet and said she was his girlfriend in one or more of the local boys dare till to speak to Brian.

However, writing a personal account of the incident. Any book released in 2009. Tales cousins, Simeon Wright, who was also present disputed Jones' version of what happened on that day. According to her right tail did not have a photo of a white girl in his wallet. And no one dared him to further the Brian speaking in 2015, right.

Said, and quote, we didn't dare him to go to the store. The white folks said that they said that he had pictures of his white girl. There were no pictures. They never talked to me. They never interviewed me. The [00:11:00] FBI report completed in 2006 notes. Curtis Jones recanted his 1955 statements prior to his death and apologize to Mamie till Mobley.

So right there, just to stop on me right there. We have the first. So Curtis Jones was saying that gimme till had all these souls, had this photograph of this white girl services girlfriend. And right before he dies, he recants his piss statement and he apologized to Mimi tills. Why don't you keep in mind?

Cause it happens again, according to some versions, including comments from some of the kids standing outside the store till may have Wolf whistle that. TEALS cousin Simeon Wright, who was with him at the store, stated till whistle that Brian is saying, I think Emmett wanted to get a laugh out of us or something furthering.

He was always joking around and it was hard to tell when he was serious, [00:12:00] right. Stated that following the whistle, he became immediately alarmed saying, well, it scared us half to death. And you know, we were almost. We couldn't get out of there fast enough, because we had never heard of anything like that before a black boy whistling at a white woman in Mississippi.

No. Right. Stated the KU Klux Klan and Knight writers are part of our daily lives. Following his disappearance, a newspaper account stated that TILs sometimes whistled to alleviate his stuttering. His speech was sometimes unclear. His mother said he had particular difficulty with pronouncing B sounds and he may have whistle to overcome problems asking for bubble gum.

She said that to help with his articulation, she talked to you or how to whistle softly to himself before pronouncing his. During the murder trial, Brian testified that teal grabbed her hand while she was stocking candy and said, how about a date [00:13:00] baby? She said that after she freed herself from his grabs, the young man followed her to the cash register, grabbed her waist and said, what's the matter, baby?

Can't you take it? Brian says she freed herself until said, you needn't be afraid of me, baby used one unprintable word and said I've been with white women, but. Brian also alleged that one of Till's companions came into the store, grabbed him by the arm in order him to leave. According to historian, Timothy Tyson, Brian admitted to him in the 2000, they interviewed that her testimony during the trial that till had made verbal and physical advances was false.

Brian had testified till grabbed her waist and utter obscenities, but later told Tyson that's part. Not. As for the rest of what happened the 72 year old stated she could not remember. Ryan is quoted by Tyson is saying nothing that boy did could ever justify what happened to him. However, the tape recordings that Tyson made of the [00:14:00] interviews with Brian do not contain Brian, seeing those things.

In addition, the woman with Brian at the interviews, her daughter-in-law Marshall, Brian says that Bryant never told Tyson that decades later Till's cousin Simeon Wright also challenged the account given by Carolyn Bryant at the. Right into the store, less than a minute after, till was left inside, along with Brian.

And he saw no inappropriate behavior and heard no lecherous conversation rice at, till pay for his items. And we left the store together in their 2006 investigation of the cold case. The FBI noted that a second anonymous source who was confirmed to have been in the store at the same time as tilling his cousin supported rights account author.

Devery Anderson writes that in an interview with the defense attorney. Brian told a version of the initial accounter that included till grabbing her hand and asking her for a date, but not till approaching her and grabbing her ways, mentioning past relationships with white women or having to be dragged on willingly out of the [00:15:00] store by another boy.

Anderson further knows that many remarks prior to TILs can not be made by those involved indicate that it was history marks to Brian that angered his killers rather than any alleged physical. For instance, Mose Wright, a witness to the kidnapping said that the kidnappers mentioned only talk at the store and sheriff George Smith only spoke of their arrested killers as accusing til ugly remarks.

Anderson suggests that this evidence taken together implies that the more extreme details of Brian's story were invented after the fact as part of the fences legal strategy in any event after right until left. Brian went outside to retrieve a pistol from underneath the seat of a car. The teenager saw her do this and left immediately.

It was acknowledged that till whistled law Bryant was going to her car, however, it is disputed whether till whistled, tort, Bryan, or toward a checkers game that was occurring just across the street. [00:16:00] One of the other boys ran across the street to tell Curtis Jones what happened in the store. When the older man with whom Jones was playing checkers, heard this.

He urged the boys to leave quickly fearing violence. Brian told others of the events at the store and the story spread quickly Jones until declined to tell his great uncle moles, right fearing, they would get in trouble. Teal said he wanted to return home to Chicago. Carolyn's husband wore Brian was on an extended trip.

Holly shrimp detectives, and did not return home until August 20. Historian Timothy Tyson said in investigation by civil rights, activists concluded Carolyn Bryan did not initially tell her husband Roy Bryant about the encounter with till, and that Roy was told by a person who hung around town at their store.

Wor was reportedly angry at his wife for not telling him. And Carolyn Brian told the FBI, she didn't tell her husband because she feared he would beat. When we're Brian was informed of what had happened. He [00:17:00] aggressively questioned several young black men who entered the store that evening. Brian was the black man named J w Washington approached a black teenager walking along a road.

Ryan ordered Washington to seize the boy, put him in the back of a pickup truck and took him to be identified by a campaign of Carolyn's who have witnessed the episode with till friends or parents vouched for the boy and Brian. And Carolyn's companion denied that the boy Bryant and Washington seas was the one who had a costed hurt.

Somehow Brian learned that the boy in the incident was from Chicago and was staying with Mo's right. Several witnesses over her Brian and his 36 year old half brother, John William JW Milam discussing, taking till from his house in the early morning hours between 2:00 AM and 3:30 AM on August 28th, 1955.

Brian and Mellon drove to most Wright's house. Mila was armed with a pistol and a [00:18:00] flashlight. He asked, right. If he had three boys in the house in Chicago till was sharing a bed with another cousin, there were eight people in the small two bedroom cabin, Mila as right to take them to the nigger who did the talking till his great aunt offered the men money, but Mulan refused as he rushed emit to put on his clothes.

Mose Wright informed the men that till was from up north and didn't know any better, really poorly then ask how old are you preacher, to which right. Responded 64 Mila threatened that a right. Told anybody he wouldn't live to see 65, the man marched till out to the truck. Right? Said he heard them ask someone in the car.

If this was the boy and heard someone say yes, when asked if the voice was that of a man or a woman. It seemed like it was a lighter voice than a man's in a 1956 interview with look magazine. It was, they confessed to the killing Brian and Milam said they would [00:19:00] have brought till by the store in order to have Carolyn identify him, but stated they did not do so because they said tell admitted to bring the one who had talked to her.

They tied up till in the back of a green pickup truck and drove toward money, Mississippi. According to some witnesses they took till back to Brian's groceries and recruited two black men. The man then drove to a barn and drew, they pistol whipped him on the way every poorly knocked him, unconscious Willie Reed, who was 18 years old at the time, saw the truck passing by.

We recall seeing two white men in the front seat and two black males in the. Some have speculated that the two black men worked for me alum and were forced to help with the beading. Although they later denied being present. Willie Reed said that while working home, he heard the beating and crying from the barn.

He told a neighbor and they both walked back up the road to a Waterworld near the barn where they were approached by Mila, Mila [00:20:00] mass. If they heard anything, we responded, no others passed by the shed and heard it. A local neighbor also spotted too tight. Leroy Collins at the back of the barn, washing blood off the truck and notice Till's boot Milam explained he had killed a deer and that the boot belonged to him.

Some have claimed that teal was shot and tossed over the black body Ridge England door, Mississippi near the Tallahatchie river. The group drove back to roar Brian's home and money where they reportedly burned emits clothes in an interview with William Bradford. That was published in look magazine in 1956, Brian and Milam said they intended to beat till and throw him off of an embankment into the river to frighten him.

They told Huey that while they were beating, till he called them bastards declared, he was as good as they and said that he had sexual encounters with. They put till in the back of their truck, drove to a cotton gin to take a 70 pound fan. [00:21:00] The only time they admitted to being worried, thinking that by this time in early daylight, they would be spotted and accused of stealing and Joel for several miles along the river, looking for a place to dispose of till they shot him by the river and waited his body with the fan moles, right.

Stayed on his front porch for 20 minutes, waiting for till. He did not go back to bed. He and another man went into money, got gasoline and drove around, trying to find till unsuccessful. They return home by 8:00 AM. After hearing from right that he would not call the police because he feared for his life.

Curtis Jones placed a call to the little four county sheriff in another to his mother in Chicago distraught. She called him, his mother made me Tilbury. Right. And his wife, Elizabeth drove to Sumner where Elizabeth brother contacted the sheriff, Brian and Mila, and were questioned bottle of four county sheriff George Smith.

They admitted they had [00:22:00] taken the boy from his great uncle's yard, but claimed they had released him the same night in front of Brian's store. Brian and Mila were arrested for kidnapping word, got out that teal was missing and soon Medgar Evers, Mississippi state field secretary for the Nestle association for the vest bit of color.

And Amzie Moore head of the Bolivar county chapter became involved. They disguise themselves as cotton pickers and went into the cotton fields in search of any information that might help find till three days after his abduction and murder till swollen and disfigured body was found by two boys who were fishing in the Tallahatchie river.

His head was very badly mutilated. He had been shot above the. And I was dislodged from the socket. There was evidence that he had been beaten on the back and the hips and his body weighted by fan blade, which was fastened around his neck with barbed wire. He was nude, but wearing a silver ring [00:23:00] with the initials LT and May 25th, 1943 carved in it.

His face was unrecognizable due to trauma, and haven't been submerged in. Mose Wright was called to the river to identify till the silver ring that teal was wearing was removed and returned to. Right. And next passed on to the district attorney as evidence there's right here was one of the most brutal murders of his time and may still be considered one of the most brutal murders of this time.

They kill animals. With more dignity than that and getting steel, he died off of something that he did not ever do. It will come out later that it was a lie that was told, but yet these two [00:24:00] went down and killed this boy for no reason. Other than that, they said, He whistled at a white woman was he wasn't even doing, because as you already heard, he can pronounce the words.

So he was slightly to himself, made up a whole story, a whole story that wasn't even true,

but you know what? There was a lesson learned out of it. Because his mom, wasn't gonna let anybody get away with what they did to her son. Here's mom wanted you to see the horror that she saw. This is what happened. All the lynchings and racially motivated murders had occur throughout the south for decades.

The circumstances surrounding Till's murder and the timing [00:25:00] acted as a catalyst to attract national attention to the. Have a 14 year old boy who had allegedly been killed for breaching a social caste system. Till's murder, arouse feelings about segregation, law enforcement relations between the north and south.

The social status quo in Mississippi, the activities of the NAACP and the white citizens councils and the cold war, all of which were played out in a drama stage in newspapers, all over the U S. After teal went missing a three paragraph store was printed in the Greenwood Commonwealth and quickly picked up by other Mississippi newspapers that reported on his death.

When the body was found the next day, when a picture of him, his mother had taken the previous Christmas, showing them smiling together, appeared in the Jackson daily news and Vicksburg evening. Editorials and letters to the editor were printed, [00:26:00] expressing shame at the people who had caused Till's death.

One read now is the time for every citizen who loves the state of Mississippi to stand up and be counted before hoodlum white trash brings us to destruction. The letter said that Negroes were not the downfall of Mississippi society, but whites like those and white citizens councils that condoned.

Till's body was clothed packed in lime, placed into a pine coffin to prepare for burial. It may have been embalmed while in Mississippi, Mamie till Bradley demanded that the body be sent to Chicago. She later said that she worked to heart and immediate barrel in Mississippi and called several local and state authorities in Illinois and Mississippi to make sure that her son was returned to Chicago.

A doctor did not examine till post. Mississippi's governor, he will white deploy the murder. Asserting that local authorities should [00:27:00] pursue a vigorous prosecution. He sent a telegram to the national offices of the NAACP promising a full investigation and assuring them. Mississippi does not condone such conduct, Delta residents, both black and white.

Also distanced themselves from Till's murder, finding the circumstances. Local newspapers, editorials the now's the murderers, without question, the floor county, deputy sheriff, John Coltrane stated well, white people around here feel pretty mad about the way that poor little boy was treated and they won't stand for this soon.

However discourse about Till's murder became more complex. Robert B. Patterson executive secretary of the segregation is white citizens. Use tills just to claim that racial segregation policies or to provide for blacks safety and that their efforts were being naturalized by the NAACP air response, NAACP [00:28:00] executive secretary of war welcomes categorized the incident as a lynching and said that Mississippi was trying to maintain white supremacy through murder.

He said there is in the entire state, no restraining influence of. Not in the state Capitol among the daily newspapers, the clergy, nor any segment of the so-called better citizens. Mamie till Bradley told a reporter that she was seek legal aid to help law enforcement fire her son's killers. And that the state of Mississippi should share the financial responsibility.

She was misquoted. It was reported as Mississippi is going to pay for this, the AA Rainer funeral home in Chicago received tills. Upon arrival, barely insisted on viewing it to make a positive identification later stating that the stench from it was noticeable, two blocks away. She decided to have an open casket funeral saying there was just no way I could describe what was [00:29:00] in that box.

No way. And I just wanted the world to see tens of thousands of people lined the street, outside the mortuary to view tills. And days later thousands more attended his funeral at Robert's temple church of God and Christ. Photograph is mutilated corporate circulated around the country. Notably appearing in jet magazine in the Chicago defender, both black publications generating intense public reaction.

According to the nation and Newsweek Chicago's black community was aroused as it has not been over any similar act in recent years. Time Luda selected one of the jet photographs showing Mamie till over the middle of the body of her dead son, as one of the 100 most influential images of all time for almost a century African-Americans were lynched with regularity and impunity.

Now, thanks to a mother's determination to expose the barbarity of the crime. The public could no [00:30:00] longer pretend to ignore what they couldn't see till was buried on September six in Burr Oak cemetery. And also Illinois news about Emmett till spread to both coasts Chicago, mayor Richard Daley and Illinois, governor William Stratton also became involved urgent, Mississippi, governor white to see that justice be done towing the Mississippi newspapers changed dramatically.

They falsely reported riders in the funeral home in Chicago, Brian and Milam appeared in photos, smiling and wearing military uniforms and Carolyn Brian's beauty and virtue works. Rumors of an invasion of outrage, blacks and Northern whites were praying throughout the state and were taken seriously by the little flora county, sheriff T R M Howard, a local businessman surgeon and civil rights proponent, and one of the wealthiest blacks in the state warned of a second civil war.

If slaughtering of Negroes was allowed following world war Ken's comments, [00:31:00] white opinion began to shift according to historian, Steven. A specific brand of xenophobia in the south was particularly strong in Mississippi. Whites were urged to reject the influence of Northern opinion and agitation. The independent attitude was profound enough in Tallahatchie county that it earned the nickname, the free state of Tallahassee, according to a former sheriff, because people here do what they damn well, please making the county often difficult to get.

Tallahatchie county sheriff Clarence straighter, who initially positively identified Till's body. Instead of that, the case that gives me Liam and Brian was pretty good on September 3rd analysis. His doubts that the body port from the Tallahatchie river was that of till he speculated that the boy was probably still alive.

Strata suggested that the recovered body had been planted by the NAACP or quartz stolen by TRM Howard who concluded to place TILs rings. Strategy changed his [00:32:00] account after comments were published in the press, denigrating the people of Mississippi later saying the last thing I wanted to do was to defend those peckerwoods, but I just had no choice about it.

Brian and Milam were indicted for murder. The state's prosecuting attorney Hamilton Caldwell was not confident that he could get a conviction in a case of white violence against a black male accused of insulting a white. Uh, local black paper was surprised at the indictment in praise. The decision as did the New York times a high profile comments published in Northern newspapers and by the NAACP, while of concerns, the prosecuting attorney, Gerald Chatham, he worried that his office would not be able to secure a guilty verdict.

Despite the compelling evidence, having limited funds, Brian and Milam initially had difficulty finding attorneys representing. But five attorneys at a Sumner law firm offered their services, pro bono, their supporters, place [00:33:00] collection, jars, and stores, and other public places in the Delta eventually gathering $10,000 for the defense.

So to cut to the chase, after all of that, of the, all of that murder and killing, even, they admitted it in November, 1955, a grand jury declined to indict Brian and Mila for kidnapping, despite their own ambitions of having taken. Mose Wright and a young man named Willie Reed, who testified to seeing Milam enter the sheriff from which screams and blows are heard, both testified in front of the grand jury.

After the trial TRM Howard pay the cost of relocating to Chicago for a right read and another black witness who testified against bulimia and Brian in order to protect the three witnesses from reprisals of having testified. Reid, who later changed his name to Willie. To avoid being found, continue to live in the Chicago area until his death on July 18th, [00:34:00] 2013.

He avoided publicity and even kept his history secret from his wife until she was told by a relative re began to speak publicly about the case in the PBS documentary, the murder of Emmett, till which aired in 2003. So they have a guys, even though. Two guys got away with it. We're seeing a lot of this.

Now, there was a thing that had came out a while ago that said it was from an older person on my age. That said what I was young and growing up. My mother taught me about Emmett till now. I'm teaching my children about Tamir, rice and George Floyd. It's true. And even though they didn't take them down to a cotton gin, didn't hang them with a fan.

These things are still going on today. Immaterial spart. We know as the American civil rights movement, this one death caused a [00:35:00] whole spark through all the whole entire world. Even the white people. Back then, as you heard, was taken aback by the actions that this was called. Because we all know, even back then, even now, if a black man was to show up and it meant that he had killed somebody who was white, that they had a big national case for y'all all know, will be picked up and taken to jail without even a second thought yet these two gentlemen, if you want to call them that, and I used that term loosely God to live out their lives.

Until the day that they died. No enclose was talking about Carolyn Brian for a minute, because as I had said, it happened again the second time, which was a lie, which was hers. Now, as you heard me saying, uh, the guy who took this confession did not have any tape or didn't have it on tape. He [00:36:00] had written it down and that one of Carolyn Brian's relatives had said that it was not true.

Well, I believe that ever since this has happened, that Carolyn Bryant herself has actually made a video or had a, it was her, her talking and she admitted it is true. She admitted that she lied that this should have never happened. Now, the rumor that was going around before, because we did do a full episode on Emmett till all my other podcasts that they were crying.

And somebody said that Carolyn Bryan was on her deathbed. No Carolyn Brian was not in his, not in, has not been on her death bed when she said this. Matter of fact, Carolyn Bryant is still very much alive and well as we speak. So the only person that's not alive out of all of this who was falsely accused and who was killed because of the color of his skin was [00:37:00] Emmett till there's markers everywhere.

There is markers and money, Mississippi, right in front of where the store was. And it says that it is Brian's grocery and meat market is old. Now it's pretty much fallen down. There's a proper private property sign that is on it, but it is there. Now, this is some new boards that I'm seeing in the picture that they have up here.

But even the sign that said Brian's grocery store was still trapped inside of. There was a shirt that was made a little while ago, which I wanted to get my hands on and never could. I'm hoping to find one eventually, but it actually on the front says little shop of horrors. And in the back, it tells you the story of Emmett till the other markets that is there is they have actually marked the property or the places where.

Things were found. So the market, the building where the cotton gin [00:38:00] was housed and they actually have a sign where Brian got the fan that they use to wear his body down. And then they have a sign that's identifying the site of museum's house near Glen Dora. And this is all things that is marked there.

Even down to the Royal service station, they have pictures of so that nobody ever forget. This is a story that should never ever be forgotten. This is racism personify. And if you guys never knew about this case, you need to read all the rest of it that I couldn't get to today. For sake of time, you need to tell your children this story when you're trying to raise them to be good children and what not to do white people and black.

But mainly white people who wants to teach their children about something about black history and where it all began in the [00:39:00] heinous crimes that took place. There is no better story to look to than the story of Emmett till my middle son found this case back when he was in Greece. Here's the assignment was he had to find someone influential to write about that has something to do with black history.

And I said, maybe you should do Emmett till. And he went and looked him up and he did one heck of a paper on Emmett till, and that story stuck with him until he got grown. And because of that and because. Of what Amatil brought and because of what immaterial means, he did name his son emit based on that.

So, guys, all I can say is this is the story that you guys should [00:40:00] remember read it every time you think about it, read it every July 25th, which is Emma's birthday revisited every February. In black history month and the look around your world today, because it's still happening. It's happening with Joyce.

Floyd is happening with Tamir. Rice is happening. We're Brianna Taylor and the whole long list of all the other ingest crimes against blacks that you have seen. No, they didn't take them out and hang them out a cotton gin and throw them over into a river. But it is the. Same semblance and it is not going to stop and to all of us as a people, white, black, Asian, no matter what color you are, stand up.

And we all say no more.

 all right, guys that does with this. And I thank you for tuning in [00:41:00] to yet another black history fact here. Join me tomorrow, I have another one for you. 

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