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Well, hello. And here I am again,
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still presumably struggling
to find my, uh, podcast voice.
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This is indeed the second
episode to release in the series,
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which I have at least temporarily,
or for as long as it lasts,
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and entitled A few
things to Say because I'm
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Strikingly original and
imaginative, or perhaps not.
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In any event, the first
episode, which, uh,
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I released was not an
intended necessarily to be a
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podcast launcher.
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The first episode was
actually originally inspired
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by a call for, uh, submissions,
potential submissions to a podcast
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called The Power of a Story associated
with the Recovering Fundamentalist
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podcast,
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which I would love to give an
unsolicited plug for here cuz if,
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if you did hear the first episode,
you know, something of my background,
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which is associated with, uh,
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certain form of fundamentalism
and the Independent Baptist
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Broad movement, uh,
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as something to at least begin
the process of talking through
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things, telling my story,
perhaps helping a few others,
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uh, have a little bit of an understanding
of where I'm coming from and to give
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myself an opportunity to verbalize
some things which have been
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inside of me for a long period of time,
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unspoken largely, and, uh,
only spoken in fragments.
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And so now, as the title again suggests,
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I have a few things to say. I don't,
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can't hardly imagine what kind of audience
I might have who would be interested
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in listening, but there is
always that person out there,
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maybe one person,
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maybe a group of people who
is just the person who needs
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the specific words that I have,
God has made us all unique,
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for which in many cases we
may be eternally grateful.
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So on this particular podcast, which
hopefully will not be extremely long,
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I want to do just a couple of things.
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I have one particular subject that
I did want to address because it is
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relevant to myself, to some, uh,
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my upbringing and to people whose
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lives and perspectives I care about.
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Uh, but first off a couple of words. Um,
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and I just wanted to
say again because I did
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get a, I I received a lot of
positive feedback or you know,
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from a number, a number of people
from the few that, um,
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I'm associated with, um, social media.
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And I'm grateful for that feedback,
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which I think perhaps somewhat
exceeds the quality of my
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performance. But again, this is
not supposed to be all about me.
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I mean, if it was, then there would be no,
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definitely be no point
of my making a podcast.
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There's nothing so fantastically
special in the human sense about me.
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Certainly nothing that would
be glamorous or fashionable,
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but God, but God.
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But God has made me an
instrument of his grace.
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And as I look at the great
heroes of scripture so
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many times, God chooses what is
not highly esteemed among men.
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What is not glamorous, what is not,
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in many cases seemingly naturally gifted,
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what seems perhaps particularly
and egregiously flawed
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and faulty and broken and indeed sinful.
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And yet God chooses such people. Indeed,
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if I may take a moment,
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and these are probably going to be the
most valuable moments in this episode
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because I'd like to read
just a passage of scripture,
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which is very precious to me,
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and gives me hope.
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And of course there's so much more
to it than the specific particular
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application that might be given it. Uh,
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and uh,
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I would like to begin perhaps a little
bit further back so that we really get
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some good,
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good spiritual nuggets
here. And of course, I,
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I could exposit this entire passage,
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perhaps that may be the
duty of a future podcast
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would be to go further
into this one passage.
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I don't know where all
this podcast may be going,
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may be going nowhere in a hurry.
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It may be going melt or pole directions.
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There are various things
that could be done with it,
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and I don't know what God's
going to do, but nevertheless,
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if we could just read a moment from
scripture and that would be
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much more helpful than anything
that I have to say for myself.
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So I'm gonna read from the book
of one Corinthians chapter one
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starting in verse 18.
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Although the specific passage that I
have in mind begins a few verse later,
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but let's get a little bit of context
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for the word of the
cross is folly to those
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who are perishing, but to
us who are being saved,
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it is the power of God
for what is written.
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I all destroy the wisdom of the wise
and the discernment of the discerning I
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will thwart. Where is the one who is wise,
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where is the scribe? Where
is the debater of this age?
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Has not God made foolish the wisdom
of the world for sense in the wisdom
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of God. The world did not
know God through wisdom.
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It please God through the folly of what
we preach to save those who believe.
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For Jews, demand signs
and Greeks seek wisdom,
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but we preach Christ crucified,
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a stumbling block to Jews
and folly to Gentiles,
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but to those who are called
both Jews and Greeks, Christ,
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the power of God and the wisdom
of God for the foolishness
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of God is wiser than men.
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And the weakness of God
is stronger than men.
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And now in particular a few
verses which describe my
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credentials and my qualifications.
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Indeed, that's not primarily
the case here, but uh,
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I think it really does give hope.
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In any event, let's, let's read on
consider your calling brothers, none,
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many of you or wise, according
to worldly standards,
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not many were powerful, not
many were of noble birth,
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but God chose what is foolish
in the world to shame the wise.
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God chose what is weak in
the world to shame the strong
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God shows what's low and despised in
the world, even things that are not
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to bring to nothing. Things that are
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so that no human being might
boast in the presence of God.
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And because of him,
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you are in Christ Jesus who
became to us wisdom from God,
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righteousness and
sanctification and redemption.
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So that as it is written, that the
one who boasts boast in the Lord.
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Amen. And indeed, may
that be all that I do.
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May I boast in Lord, may I
not proclaim my intelligence,
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my wisdom, the wondrousness of my life,
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of my pristine moral character,
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which would be a lie in an event.
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It's not about me.
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I am what I am to this degree,
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that it is anything good
because God brought me to life
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from the dead because God gave
me a new birth because the
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gospel of Christ, of
Christ's saving power,
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of his atoning death,
of his justification,
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of his resurrection, of his divinity.
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And God had all of the
glorious truths of scripture.
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These alone make my life of any
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consequence.
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And the testimony of this alone
makes anything I have to say
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of any real value that is my only
claim upon anyone's time and attention.
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This having been said, uh,
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I just wanted to briefly speak
again about my first podcast
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and clarify.
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And if I didn't make it clear
enough before that my intention was
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not to vilify,
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it was not to tell about
how bad these people are,
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how bad this group is. I want to testify
to the truth. I want to call out error.
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I.
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False teaching and false
living where it is both in
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others and in myself. And
I'm vulnerable to that.
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I'm open to critique,
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but my judge ultimately is God. I
cannot live to please other men.
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I dare not live for that purpose.
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It's difficult enough, even yes,
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impossible to consistently please
God with my own righteousness.
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Indeed, I can't, I can't come
before God in my righteousness.
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But that which has been
given to me, that which is
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imputed to me, Christ's righteousness,
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I did indeed as I might very well
have expected, receive some pushback,
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to put it nicely
about what I had to
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say.
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I'm willing to bear that I'm
willing to take men's criticism.
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I I must be free
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to tell the truth and to look to
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scripture not to other men
as my judge and my standard.
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I can only afford ultimately to give
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value or heed or credence
to other people's
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opinions of me, only to the degree that
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I can consider them and ask,
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am I giving people good
reason to think this?
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Is there c criticism of me
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justified? Is it true? Is it accurate?
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I certainly owe that much, but no more.
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I cannot live to please men pleasing.
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God is all I can handle and more,
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I can't really spend too much more
time on that. It is, as they say,
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when it is let God be true again.
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As for the future of these, uh,
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podcasts or whatever
they may be described as,
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um, I don't know. I'm
just taking this, uh,
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as an opportunity. Um,
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and it's easier to communicate
with an I impersonal microphone,
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. I'm only half kidding.
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But if this is a means by which
some people may be informed,
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maybe touched, I don't know, I
don't know that's in God's hands.
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And uh, it is only because of him
that I even dare approach this
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and have anything to say.
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I am not deeply impressed by
my own eloquence, by my own,
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uh, interesting life, by
my own great personality.
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But if God would have some word for me,
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even if it's five words
out of 500 that somehow
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affect somebody in whatever way,
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then that would be worth it.
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One thing I do not want this podcast
to become is simply something a,
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a constant critique, a
constant bashing a con,
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even though an appropriate censure,
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an appropriate calling out of falsehood,
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calling out of that which is contrary
to scripture because that's what this is
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about. I'm Christian.
My ultimate authority
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Is the word of God. And as
I believe I've said before,
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that is where I've had to come to
in my life that the word of God,
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the scripture must be the one unquestioned
thing by which all other things are
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and will and must be
questioned. I cannot live simply
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taking people's word and
following the traditions.
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Traditions are fine,
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but they are not a substitute and must
not be a substitute or be placed on the
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equal footing or replace clear
and revealed word of God.
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And sadly, many who in
many cases don't realize it
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and indeed would think far
otherwise, nevertheless,
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they are in many of their beliefs,
in many of their practices,
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held accountable, not
ultimately to the word of God,
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but to traditions. Many
times well intentioned,
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perhaps not always,
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but we must as Christians ask,
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is this what God has revealed?
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So the one thing that was on my
heart and on my mind to address,
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and there are a lot of
issues I could take up,
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I could go into more detail on many of
the things that were mentioned in my
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other discourse, , uh,
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but I could go into King James m which
is, you know, one of the big issues.
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And even on that particular issue,
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and I'm probably gonna have a couple
of things to say about that on this
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program. Uh, I don't wanna go into
it in depth, at least not now.
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But.
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People may ask and I've been accused of,
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of attacking the King James version,
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which seems funny because these same
people in many cases are the ones who
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talk about modern translations
and call them, uh,
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corrupt, perverted,
heretical, even satanic.
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And when I speak about the
King James version, I say, I,
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I say it's something to be honored.
I think it has been greatly blessed.
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I believe it's a wonderful good
thing that God has given to us.
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And yet somehow I'm the one who's
attacking because of my position,
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um, the King James version. Again,
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I don't want to go deeply
into that issue right now.
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And other people have discussed
the issue far more, uh,
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coherently and eloquently and
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knowledgeably than I could.
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The one particular issue
that I want to discuss,
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and then hopefully with
within the next episode
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be go move on to something a little bit
more constructive rather than simply
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calling out error. Although
that, that is equally important.
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We cannot unknow the truth until
we have unlearned some fundamental
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errors.
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And one thing that has
really grieved me as
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I've really begun to look into some
things and review some things as
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I have some interactions or
with people from the past
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Is in particular is the teaching and
the personality and the influence
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and the legacy, uh, of some people.
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But in particular one person who
was held in very great esteem,
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particularly by, uh,
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my former pastor and by others who,
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whose friendship I have
valued perhaps more.
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But the more I look at what this person
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had to say, what he believed,
how he acted, what he stood for,
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I am grieved that any such person
as this could be held in such high
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regard by those who
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I held in some regard.
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And I simply have to say with
regards to this person, he was
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a jerk,
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and I struggle to word
this as nicely as I can,
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but he was a, a jerk
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and ultimately he was toxic.
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He was a heretic.
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Those two in particular are not
words I use casually or lightly.
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I don't like to call describe
people as toxic generally,
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but this person really invites it.
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I do not like to call a person a
heretic simply because I disagree with
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one little detail of theology or even a
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fairly significant point.
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But when he espouses beliefs
that really attack the very heart
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of the gospel and the the theology
and the beliefs that we have,
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I must take that seriously,
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especially when it's a person who
is highly regarded by those who
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think of themselves truly
orthodox, truly conservative,
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truly uh, old fashioned Christians.
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And the person whom I refer
is, uh, Peter Ruckman.
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Now in the broad world,
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in the general world out there,
he is not necessarily a big name.
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Even within Christianity generally,
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or even more conservative
Christianity in particular,
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he's not necessarily a a huge name.
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But in the circles where
he is a name, you know,
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he is a big name,
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he is a loud voice within a small group,
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within a particular subset
of, uh, independent Baptists.
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And of course the thing is there
are many independent Baptists.
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There are many King James Onlys
who do not brag or
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lay claim to peterman. Indeed, much
of the information that I have,
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uh, there has been conveniently compiled
in one place rather than having to wade
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through oceans of his
writings, which believe me,
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for any person of a
reasonable frame of mind,
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for most anyone at least of
a reasonable frame of mind,
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he is very difficult
person to read much of.
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But there are many people
who are independent Baptists,
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even King James onus,
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whom I would disagree with in
some cases strongly on that issue,
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but who nevertheless are saying,
well, we may be independent Baptists,
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we may be King James onus, but
we are not ruckman knights.
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And I thank God for that because
ruckman is really, really problematic.
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And, um, even as a former, uh,
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church associate of
mine recently shared on
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social media a
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article about King James
journalism by a certain writer,
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it drove me back to thinking about
what this same writer had to say
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about some of Peter Rockman's
beliefs and teachings. Uh,
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and the writer. I mean, he posts
publicly on social media, his, uh,
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James L. Melton, the preacher,
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but he said some really problematic things
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about some of rockman's
most problematic beliefs.
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And this is where things
really get messed. I mean,
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there are a lot of things that
I disagree with very strongly
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with what Peter Ruman believed, what he
had to say, his attitude, his approach.
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But this is one of his
worst theological errors.
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And it it takes the
form of an extreme form
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really, of dispensationalism where
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there's a belief that God,
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of course has different ways of dealing
with his people at different points in
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time. That's a whole nother
different subject for,
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you know, that could
be gone into in depth,
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but especially when it takes
some rather extreme forms,
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particularly with Peter Ruman because
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his belief, his teaching
is, is really, really,
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really off. And that's
putting it nicely. He,
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this is what I believe he
really goes into absolute,
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I I can hardly come short
of calling it heresy.
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Uh, in brief scripture teaches,
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and if you look at it clearly, that
man is saved by grace through faith,
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without works by grace. You are saved
through faith. It's not of yourselves.
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It is a gift of God.
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It describes man as being dead in sins,
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not sick, waiting for a doctor
to make him well, not asleep,
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waiting for someone to wake
him up, not lost on the road,
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waiting for someone to give
him directions, but dead,
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completely helpless,
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completely unable to help himself
completely dependent upon the grace
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upon the quickening,
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the bringing to life
power of the Holy Spirit,
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applying work of Christ,
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the finished work of Christ on the cross
to the believer to the one who believes
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this is biblical salvation,
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not a hint of ever
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man by his works, being able
to be righteous before God.
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That's whole. That again
is a, a huge subject.
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But there are those who seemingly would
be in the camp of those who believe
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that, who are willing to make
accommodations for one who
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in the broad scheme of things only
believe this inconsistently
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and really betrays that belief in
some of his dispensational teachings.
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And it's,
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it's prob troubling to me
that people are willing to
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make allowances for beliefs which they
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would not necessarily claim to agree with.
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But Ruckman gets a pass because
he's, well, I guess Mr. King James,
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only while many others who whose
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theology is sound and solid conservative,
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orthodox scriptural certainly on the
fundamental foundational essentials
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of Christianity,
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and yet they're far more
critical and and far more
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finding them problematic
because they're not King James.
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Only they don't have the so-called
perfect word of God. Again,
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that's a big subject that could
be gone into in great detail.
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But in any event, people
who should know better,
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people who act like they're
conservative Christians,
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nevertheless will make allowance
for such things as what Ruckman
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has to say.
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And here's just a couple
of examples of beliefs and
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statements made on this subject.
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Ruckman claims that men are
saved by blood plus works in the
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Old Testament. Faith plus
works in the tribulation,
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works alone in the millennium.
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We are saved by grace through faith
simply and merely in the church age.
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Interesting theory, uh, completely
devoid of scriptural warrant.
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But many people will call
this man great hero of
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the faith. What faith? My question,
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this is a quote from Peter Ruman.
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If.
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The Lord comes and you
remain behind in the preacher
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relational rapture, which is a
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rather recent innovation
in church history,
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I would contend nevertheless he takes it
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in a much worse direction than
many who adhere to this theology.
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Again, ruman. If Lord
comes and you remain behind
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and start working like a madman to get
to heaven because you're going to have
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to,
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this is his R what Rupin
says about those who remain
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on earth after the
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pro jubilation rapture
if you believe in that.
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But what he says about
this is really, really bad.
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If you hold to a scriptural
view of salvation,
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here's what Ruman says
to those left behind,
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you must keep the 10 commandments,
all of them. Keep the golden rule,
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give your money to the poor, get
baptized, take up your cross,
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hold out to the end of the tribulation.
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Wait for Jesus Christ to show up in the
battle of Armageddon and be prepared to
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die for what you believe
in the tri tribulation.
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These are Peter Rockman's
words in the tribulation.
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You cannot be saved by grace alone
like you could before the rapture.
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Now ladies and gentlemen,
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I cannot in good conscience
call that anything short
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of Absolu heresy.
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This is an attack upon the
essential nature of the gospel.
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It is upon revelation
of God in the scripture.
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This is a betrayal. If man
can be saved by works in
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One dispensation,
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then there is no logical consistent
way you can say that he could not
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potentially have been saved by works in
any dispensation. You are either saying,
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you are either saying one of two things.
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You're either saying that man
potentially has it in himself.
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He has the power to be saved by his
works at any time in any dispensation,
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but God chooses
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to save him in other ways
in other dispensations,
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but he nevertheless contains within
himself the ability to be saved by works.
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Or
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you are saying that man does not have now
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the ability to be saved by works,
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but he has to some degree in the
past or he will in the future.
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And so some fundamental change
takes place in the nature of man
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because to say this,
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that man at some point will be saved by
works even though he is not being saved.
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Thus now you are saying that
something fundamental about the
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nature of man changes and something
about God's salvation changes,
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which is an attack upon the
very heart of the gospel.
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It is an attack upon the very heart of
scripture upon what scripture teaches
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about God, about man,
about man's fallenness.
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And I'm about summation
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Anyone who holds to an orthodox belief
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of justification by faith,
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how can you not call
this absolute betrayal,
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an utter false teaching? At another point,
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Ruckman claims that there
are six plans of salvation
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in the Book of Acts. At one point,
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Ruckman is writing about repentance
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and he speaks that there is a great deal
of difference between repentance based
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on the Pauline Gospel of
First Corinthians 15 and the
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charismatic Catholic
candlelight repentance based
on the messianic message to
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Israel in Acts 2 38. This is,
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I'm afraid what happens when you start
supposedly rightly dividing the word.
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What I fear is more
accurately described as really
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chopping the Bible into pieces,
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pulling it all apart and saying
that this part applies to
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one people group.
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This part replies to another people group
making this great dramatic difference
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between the church and Israel.
Again, that's a whole nother subject.
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I don't need to get into this,
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but when you start speaking
of a different salvation,
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of a different repentance,
you've got really,
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really big issues. There's one gospel,
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there is one salvation,
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there is one repentance for salvation.
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Like that could be a whole big subject.
I'm not necessarily gonna get into that.
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But.
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When you're talking about different
means of salvation, some by works,
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some not by works, some by
obedience, some by faith.
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You have got a divided
scripture, you have God,
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they divided an inconsistent God.
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You have absolute false teaching
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ruman claims in that in Acts two,
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Paul Peter did not say one word about
a sin repinning of the sins he had
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committed that we're driving him to hell
without the righteousness of Christ's
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finished atonement.
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There is not one word according to Ruman
in Peter's Acts two message about Jesus
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Christ dying for anyone's sins.
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That is part of the New Testament
gospel as defined by the apostle to the
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Gentiles, Peter is preaching to
sermon. John the Baptist preached
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well
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when Peter preached to the Gentiles
for the first time in Acts 10,
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he was ready to pull his Jewish
formula from Acts two on Cornelius.
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When the Lord interrupted him and showed
that Acts 2 38 was no longer the way to
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receive the Holy Spirit in Acts two,
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Simon Peter went by what he knew
at the time, and that was right.
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But in Acts 10, God gave
him additional information.
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And this is really part and parcel of
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Ruckman teaching of advanced revelation
and basically God changing his mind,
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doing things differently,
revealing new things.
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Not even after the Canon
scripture was completed.
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And that's part of his extreme
teaching on King James Omim. But
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to considerable degree, Ruckman
is really teaching new revelation.
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And even the teaching that he
was himself basically receives
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or received new revelation because he's
preaching things that no one had ever
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taught before and teaching it
with some kind of authority.
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This is a cultic approach really.
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And there is indeed a cultic
attachment to ruckman. So many people
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unquestioning in their authority and
allegiance to his completely outside of
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scripture teachings.
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Many people saying he is the
greatest preacher since Bible times.
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00:34:43,530 --> 00:34:47,870
And I am just saying no. Again,
480
00:34:47,870 --> 00:34:52,650
many people out there never heard of
Ruckman in their lives and that's great,
481
00:34:53,930 --> 00:34:57,530
although there are plenty of other false
seizures out there of different flavors
482
00:34:57,530 --> 00:35:00,090
and varieties. But for those
483
00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:03,890
whom Ruckin's sphere touches.
484
00:35:05,430 --> 00:35:05,840
It.
485
00:35:05,840 --> 00:35:07,540
Is, it is not for good.
486
00:35:10,740 --> 00:35:11,090
Again,
487
00:35:11,090 --> 00:35:15,970
according to Ruckman Peter in Acts
2 38 is not preaching to Christians,
488
00:35:16,680 --> 00:35:20,370
he's preaching to temple
worshiping bearded Jews whose
sins remitted in the Old
489
00:35:20,610 --> 00:35:23,050
Testament. That is why
he says be baptized.
490
00:35:24,960 --> 00:35:28,010
This is not rightly
dividing the word of truth.
491
00:35:28,010 --> 00:35:32,330
This is rendering the word in pieces
and putting them back together
492
00:35:32,990 --> 00:35:36,330
as you see fit and adding a lot
of your own imagination into it.
493
00:35:37,070 --> 00:35:39,960
This is typical Ruckman approach,
494
00:35:43,720 --> 00:35:45,990
again, quoting from from Ruckman.
495
00:35:46,660 --> 00:35:50,470
Some dispensations manifest
salvation by works without faith.
496
00:35:51,290 --> 00:35:52,750
And again, ruckman.
497
00:35:53,160 --> 00:35:57,390
There will be flesh and blood people on
earth during eternity and they'll die
498
00:35:57,570 --> 00:35:59,310
unless they partook with a tree of life,
499
00:35:59,310 --> 00:36:00,950
which is how they get
their e eternal life,
500
00:36:01,930 --> 00:36:04,350
not by believing on Jesus Christ.
501
00:36:06,900 --> 00:36:10,270
This is haring, this is blasphemy.
502
00:36:11,250 --> 00:36:13,270
And Peter Ruckman is promoted by many who,
503
00:36:13,840 --> 00:36:17,230
whose beliefs really
do not align with this,
504
00:36:17,230 --> 00:36:18,910
or at least do not claim
to align with this.
505
00:36:18,910 --> 00:36:21,750
And yet Ruckman somehow gets a pass.
506
00:36:23,580 --> 00:36:28,000
And of course there are people who
literally follow ruckman and believe just
507
00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:32,040
exactly as he's speaking here, you are not
508
00:36:34,120 --> 00:36:34,960
orthodox Christians,
509
00:36:35,420 --> 00:36:40,300
you are not people in the
tradition and following the
510
00:36:40,540 --> 00:36:44,140
orthodox belief of the
Baptists of history,
511
00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:49,580
it is not. And uh, here
again it's a quote Ruman.
512
00:36:49,580 --> 00:36:54,380
And in this particular one we just get
a little very relatively mild taste
513
00:36:54,440 --> 00:36:55,500
of the kind of abuse
514
00:36:57,480 --> 00:37:02,390
that Ruckman poured upon anyone
who disagreed with him in
515
00:37:02,390 --> 00:37:05,390
many cases, including
other independent Baptists,
516
00:37:05,390 --> 00:37:08,470
including other King Jameson
who weren't King James.
517
00:37:08,470 --> 00:37:12,830
Only enough he had nasty things
to say about all kinds of people,
518
00:37:12,830 --> 00:37:17,670
including Bob Jones and
John R. Rice who were two
519
00:37:18,780 --> 00:37:22,830
stalwarts of fundamentalism and John R.
Rice in particular of the Independent
520
00:37:22,830 --> 00:37:27,590
Baptist. And yet not
enough for for ruckman.
521
00:37:29,570 --> 00:37:33,120
Here's your quote,
nevermind the dumbbells,
522
00:37:34,190 --> 00:37:38,400
like the ones listed above. They
don't know about what they're talking,
523
00:37:38,830 --> 00:37:42,400
just say that salvation was by grace
through faith in both testaments,
524
00:37:43,450 --> 00:37:46,710
the position taken by the faculty
members of every major fundamental and
525
00:37:46,710 --> 00:37:49,550
conservative college, university
and seminary in America.
526
00:37:50,300 --> 00:37:54,870
This belief in salvation by grace
through faith in both testaments is
527
00:37:54,870 --> 00:37:58,470
anti-biblical heresy of the worst sort.
528
00:38:01,060 --> 00:38:02,950
This Peter Ruman,
529
00:38:05,820 --> 00:38:10,110
this is not a safe source
for truth. This is not
530
00:38:11,750 --> 00:38:14,870
a sound biblical man,
531
00:38:14,890 --> 00:38:17,030
that's just the facts.
532
00:38:19,210 --> 00:38:22,110
But what is really troubling is when
you get people who should know better,
533
00:38:23,010 --> 00:38:24,750
who act like they know better,
534
00:38:25,690 --> 00:38:30,310
who will defend these kinds
of teachings. And again,
535
00:38:30,720 --> 00:38:31,670
James L. Melton
536
00:38:34,970 --> 00:38:39,900
Puts this message out
in his booklets in on
537
00:38:39,900 --> 00:38:43,940
social media and here's what he says in
response to this whole line of teaching.
538
00:38:45,820 --> 00:38:49,340
A lot of folks point out Brother
Ruckman as being a strong advocate of
539
00:38:49,340 --> 00:38:50,740
dispensational salvation,
540
00:38:50,740 --> 00:38:54,660
saying that he teaches the people
were saved different ways in different
541
00:38:54,660 --> 00:38:57,620
dispensations and that's
heresy and all that.
542
00:38:59,730 --> 00:39:04,540
Well this is James Melton. I don't
believe it is heresy necessarily.
543
00:39:06,910 --> 00:39:07,743
Uh.
544
00:39:09,120 --> 00:39:10,650
Okay, you're already making a
545
00:39:12,450 --> 00:39:15,930
dangerous once we take a little time
to look at closer at what is involved
546
00:39:17,750 --> 00:39:19,610
and full disclosure,
547
00:39:19,900 --> 00:39:24,250
James Melton later goes on to simply
to try to explain recommends teachings
548
00:39:25,430 --> 00:39:29,810
as saying that simply people in the Old
Testament were saved by looking forward
549
00:39:30,390 --> 00:39:33,370
to Christ's atonement
rather than, you know,
550
00:39:33,370 --> 00:39:37,010
having it right before them as we do.
551
00:39:38,270 --> 00:39:41,810
And we look at it as a accomplished
work as New Testament believers.
552
00:39:43,440 --> 00:39:46,690
Well, I do credit to melting, trying to
553
00:39:48,880 --> 00:39:50,930
hold fast to much more
biblical perspective,
554
00:39:50,930 --> 00:39:53,290
but that is not what Rman is teaching.
555
00:39:53,360 --> 00:39:56,730
Rman goes outta his way to make it
clear that he believes people in the Old
556
00:39:56,930 --> 00:40:00,410
Testament were saved in a
completely different way
than it is false teaching and
557
00:40:00,410 --> 00:40:05,290
even heresy to believe that salvation of
both Testaments says anything like the
558
00:40:05,290 --> 00:40:10,290
same thing. Milton tries
to smooth that over.
559
00:40:11,030 --> 00:40:15,650
But, but the problem is
what Melton says here
560
00:40:17,270 --> 00:40:21,530
is really, really, really bad .
561
00:40:21,550 --> 00:40:24,050
It just is because here,
here here's what he says,
562
00:40:24,440 --> 00:40:25,570
just for the sake of argument,
563
00:40:27,470 --> 00:40:30,130
if what reference says about
dispensational salvation,
564
00:40:30,130 --> 00:40:34,410
people being saved different
ways, if it is heresy, so what.
565
00:40:37,790 --> 00:40:38,623
Um.
566
00:40:40,910 --> 00:40:44,690
If it is heresy, then it's
heresy and the man is a heretic,
567
00:40:45,040 --> 00:40:49,610
he's a false teacher and
may safely be disregarded.
568
00:40:54,630 --> 00:40:58,170
If you're trying to
explain ruman teachings,
569
00:40:58,170 --> 00:41:00,930
which clearly are not saying what
you're trying to suggest they're saying,
570
00:41:01,270 --> 00:41:05,570
but if you're trying to clean a
ruman up and make him look orthodox,
571
00:41:07,190 --> 00:41:09,130
at best, I believe you're deceived,
572
00:41:09,670 --> 00:41:14,570
but I can at least give you
marks for perhaps having
573
00:41:14,570 --> 00:41:15,403
good intentions.
574
00:41:17,110 --> 00:41:21,730
But if you make a at this
is at best a criminally
575
00:41:21,890 --> 00:41:26,610
careless statement just for the
sake of argument, if it is heresy.
576
00:41:27,270 --> 00:41:29,570
So what, well, if it is heresy,
577
00:41:29,910 --> 00:41:34,900
and if you're saying so what heresy,
then you've got major issues.
578
00:41:35,120 --> 00:41:39,990
That's how can you say it might be
579
00:41:39,990 --> 00:41:42,670
heresy, but if it is, it's no big deal,
580
00:41:44,460 --> 00:41:45,270
nothing else,
581
00:41:45,270 --> 00:41:49,430
nothing you can say after this can walk
that back where you're saying that if it
582
00:41:49,430 --> 00:41:52,890
is heresy. So what? And
here it goes on to say,
583
00:41:52,890 --> 00:41:55,650
brother Ruckman agrees with what
we believe about salvation today.
584
00:41:57,850 --> 00:41:59,660
Well, he does not believe
585
00:42:01,370 --> 00:42:02,980
fundamental things about God,
586
00:42:03,670 --> 00:42:08,580
about man and about salvation
generally if he believes that salvation
587
00:42:09,170 --> 00:42:12,820
changes from one dispensation to another.
588
00:42:14,280 --> 00:42:18,220
So no, he does not get a pass here. Again,
589
00:42:18,290 --> 00:42:19,460
quoting from Melton,
590
00:42:19,460 --> 00:42:23,940
brother Ruckman is not teaching
a false salvation plan for today.
591
00:42:26,310 --> 00:42:27,600
Even that's kind of Deb Debateable.
592
00:42:27,600 --> 00:42:32,320
But here this next sentence
is absolutely to any person
593
00:42:32,420 --> 00:42:37,000
who takes biblical orthodoxy
seriously, this next sentence is,
594
00:42:37,000 --> 00:42:40,110
should be chilling and horrifying.
595
00:42:42,800 --> 00:42:45,950
Again, let's, let's go back in some
of his statements so far. He said,
596
00:42:45,950 --> 00:42:49,350
if it is heresy, so what he's also said,
597
00:42:49,420 --> 00:42:54,110
well it's okay because he believes in
a true plan of salvation for today.
598
00:42:55,970 --> 00:42:56,803
And then he says,
599
00:42:58,050 --> 00:43:02,710
why does it really matter to you and
I today how somebody got saved over
600
00:43:02,710 --> 00:43:03,543
2000 years ago?
601
00:43:08,330 --> 00:43:09,163
And goodness folks,
602
00:43:10,490 --> 00:43:15,310
if it doesn't matter to us or
if it's a matter that we can
603
00:43:16,370 --> 00:43:20,990
safely disregard or disagree
with, agree to disagree about,
604
00:43:21,090 --> 00:43:25,110
if it doesn't really matter how
someone got saved 2000 years ago,
605
00:43:25,340 --> 00:43:27,230
then it does not matter at all.
606
00:43:27,500 --> 00:43:32,310
Anytime you can't just divide time up
into different dispensations and to act
607
00:43:32,310 --> 00:43:36,470
as if it's not a big
deal. It is a big deal.
608
00:43:38,680 --> 00:43:43,150
James Melton talking about Ruman and his
609
00:43:43,630 --> 00:43:44,170
teachings.
610
00:43:44,170 --> 00:43:48,430
Why does it really matter to you and I
today how somebody got saved over 2000
611
00:43:48,430 --> 00:43:52,910
years ago, as long as we've got it right
for today, why can't we agree on that?
612
00:43:53,100 --> 00:43:57,430
Because if you say that men are
getting saved differently in an other
613
00:43:58,030 --> 00:44:00,390
dispensation, then you're
basically saying that
614
00:44:01,980 --> 00:44:05,590
What we supposedly believe
about man's fallenness,
615
00:44:06,360 --> 00:44:08,750
about God's plan is not really .
616
00:44:09,250 --> 00:44:12,790
We don't really take that seriously
because we're saying God just changes that
617
00:44:12,790 --> 00:44:16,710
up, that okay, maybe today man
is dead in sins and unable to,
618
00:44:16,890 --> 00:44:18,990
to help himself to salvation. But
619
00:44:20,930 --> 00:44:22,670
presto change though
different dispensation,
620
00:44:22,670 --> 00:44:27,630
all of a sudden man can and
must work in order to be saved.
621
00:44:29,020 --> 00:44:33,700
That is a betrayal of the fundamental
nature of what we believe.
622
00:44:35,360 --> 00:44:39,260
You're free to believe that, but
you are not free to call yourself
623
00:44:40,770 --> 00:44:44,730
a conservative old fashioned
orthodox biblical Christian.
624
00:44:47,470 --> 00:44:52,050
You're not. That is not what we believe.
625
00:44:52,050 --> 00:44:56,450
That is certainly not what we as
conservative Baptists believe,
626
00:44:58,070 --> 00:44:58,903
not even close.
627
00:45:01,470 --> 00:45:03,090
And then to describe people,
628
00:45:03,680 --> 00:45:07,010
just normal Orthodox Christian
people who believe this,
629
00:45:07,320 --> 00:45:10,890
many of them people very
close to his own camp,
630
00:45:11,000 --> 00:45:13,390
independent Baptists,
631
00:45:14,770 --> 00:45:19,130
but describe them as
dumbbells and people who
632
00:45:19,600 --> 00:45:24,170
believe in anti-biblical heresy
because they believe salvation
633
00:45:24,430 --> 00:45:25,263
has been the same.
634
00:45:27,740 --> 00:45:32,400
That is a great false
635
00:45:33,760 --> 00:45:34,593
belief.
636
00:45:35,600 --> 00:45:40,500
I'm just gonna say that because this
is vital to us as Christians and for
637
00:45:40,500 --> 00:45:45,350
people who want to lay the
claim of orthodox Christianity
638
00:45:45,810 --> 00:45:50,140
and of the old paths, the old fashioned
639
00:45:51,560 --> 00:45:52,393
Belief,
640
00:45:52,860 --> 00:45:56,660
conservative orthodox gospel belief
641
00:45:58,230 --> 00:45:58,660
who,
642
00:45:58,660 --> 00:46:03,570
whose only standard is scripture
who believe that only the uh,
643
00:46:03,870 --> 00:46:07,170
of course in their case the King James
version is their final authority.
644
00:46:08,660 --> 00:46:11,390
Well, it isn't because
you have your traditions
645
00:46:13,110 --> 00:46:16,560
just as much as anyone
else and in this case,
646
00:46:16,560 --> 00:46:20,840
traditions which are leaving
you far astray from the Bible.
647
00:46:22,670 --> 00:46:24,520
Okay? That's one of the biggest issues
648
00:46:26,350 --> 00:46:30,000
that we might have with
Rman. But there are others,
649
00:46:32,070 --> 00:46:34,560
I'll address just a few of them.
650
00:46:37,950 --> 00:46:42,770
One of the major issues with Rman
that would turned him off from
651
00:46:43,660 --> 00:46:44,493
just about
652
00:46:46,010 --> 00:46:50,310
any normal person these days is,
653
00:46:51,130 --> 00:46:55,990
is pretty straightforward and legitimate,
654
00:46:56,020 --> 00:46:57,510
full fledged racism.
655
00:46:58,460 --> 00:47:02,550
There's a lot that that
on today that is called,
656
00:47:02,550 --> 00:47:07,190
that is in the name of wokeness.
In the name of critical theory,
657
00:47:07,420 --> 00:47:09,950
there's a lot that is called racism.
658
00:47:10,580 --> 00:47:13,270
There's a lot that is
classified in that direction
659
00:47:14,990 --> 00:47:18,800
that simply isn't. That simply is it's,
660
00:47:19,470 --> 00:47:24,120
it's politics, it's progressivism
in the wrong direction,
661
00:47:26,500 --> 00:47:29,200
but racism itself certainly exists
662
00:47:31,620 --> 00:47:35,600
in its own corners and quarters.
663
00:47:36,550 --> 00:47:41,530
It's out there sometimes in small
ways, sometimes in big ways.
664
00:47:41,990 --> 00:47:45,930
But Peter Ruffman definitely
was a full-fledged racist in the
665
00:47:48,350 --> 00:47:49,330
truest sense of the word.
666
00:47:51,350 --> 00:47:55,730
And if we believe that we as Christians
are not to rail on each other,
667
00:47:56,190 --> 00:47:57,050
we are not to
668
00:47:59,750 --> 00:48:04,450
attack each other for
anything less than sin
669
00:48:05,670 --> 00:48:08,330
and biblical categories,
but we are not to,
670
00:48:08,630 --> 00:48:12,570
we are to recognize we're all
created in the image of God
671
00:48:13,980 --> 00:48:16,680
and we go onto all of those
theological categories.
672
00:48:16,780 --> 00:48:21,410
But I would hope that
most of us have some vague
673
00:48:23,280 --> 00:48:24,113
notions of
674
00:48:26,310 --> 00:48:30,570
the biblical teaching of man
being made in God's image,
675
00:48:30,990 --> 00:48:33,290
man being equal under God.
676
00:48:36,630 --> 00:48:41,170
It would expand this
episode far beyond its
677
00:48:41,900 --> 00:48:44,930
boundaries to go deeply into refuting
678
00:48:47,330 --> 00:48:51,140
some of the claims of
this sort of racism. But
679
00:48:53,570 --> 00:48:58,050
well God help us if we
would count as such things
680
00:48:58,430 --> 00:48:59,263
as are said here.
681
00:49:00,800 --> 00:49:03,450
Just a couple of remarks that he made,
682
00:49:03,450 --> 00:49:08,170
which I would hope largely
speak for themselves as
683
00:49:09,360 --> 00:49:11,970
utterly despicable.
684
00:49:14,660 --> 00:49:19,510
Ruckman claims that a black person's
IQ is always lower than a white
685
00:49:19,520 --> 00:49:20,353
man's.
686
00:49:21,170 --> 00:49:25,230
He said it's not join the K K
K because it was antisemitic,
687
00:49:25,570 --> 00:49:27,830
but otherwise he agrees
with everything they say.
688
00:49:30,270 --> 00:49:34,330
He claims that Kane's mark
is black, which is uncles.
689
00:49:35,430 --> 00:49:40,130
And of course he also believes in
the teaching that Satan fathered Kane
690
00:49:40,160 --> 00:49:40,993
with Eve
691
00:49:44,030 --> 00:49:45,810
And that whole mess,
692
00:49:48,080 --> 00:49:50,970
Ruckman says all black people are racists,
693
00:49:51,280 --> 00:49:55,810
prejudice is a permanent fruit
or a trait of colored people.
694
00:49:57,270 --> 00:49:58,103
He describes
695
00:49:59,840 --> 00:50:04,170
colored people as people who could
not invent a calendar or even a wheel
696
00:50:05,760 --> 00:50:09,140
if white dutchmen had not come down there
and showed the first black man how to
697
00:50:09,160 --> 00:50:14,060
use a white bathroom, how to farm,
build, manufacture, mine, merchandise,
698
00:50:14,380 --> 00:50:17,420
sanitize, regulate, and
organize a civilization.
699
00:50:18,070 --> 00:50:19,580
There would be no civilization there.
700
00:50:20,360 --> 00:50:25,020
It was the Shiites who built the
Egyptian empire and it's not in central
701
00:50:25,200 --> 00:50:25,800
Africa.
702
00:50:25,800 --> 00:50:30,660
It borders Asia and has access to all the
wisdom and culture of the east through
703
00:50:30,660 --> 00:50:33,340
the centuries. Egypt is now the exception,
704
00:50:33,470 --> 00:50:36,860
which the monkey man used
to overthrow the rule.
705
00:50:38,430 --> 00:50:42,530
The rule is unless Whitey shows the black
man how to play the piano, the tuba,
706
00:50:42,530 --> 00:50:46,050
the trombone, the banjo, the sax
saw the clarinet and the trumpet,
707
00:50:47,130 --> 00:50:49,470
he stays squatted in
front of a hollow log.
708
00:50:54,390 --> 00:50:59,290
No comment. I mean that if you
approve of that statement, then.
709
00:51:00,710 --> 00:51:01,543
Uh.
710
00:51:02,370 --> 00:51:05,330
I mean in some context there might
be something to be said, but really
711
00:51:07,140 --> 00:51:10,050
there is no scripture to justify this.
712
00:51:11,020 --> 00:51:12,760
How is this kind of speech,
713
00:51:13,780 --> 00:51:18,520
in any event to be called
edifying? How am I built up.
714
00:51:19,100 --> 00:51:19,933
By.
715
00:51:20,280 --> 00:51:22,120
Listening to this kind of talk?
716
00:51:24,100 --> 00:51:24,760
Uh.
717
00:51:24,760 --> 00:51:26,000
Again, just a couple of quotes
718
00:51:28,120 --> 00:51:33,040
from Ruckman History is absolute
proof that race mixers are mentally
719
00:51:33,230 --> 00:51:34,063
sick.
720
00:51:36,180 --> 00:51:37,013
So.
721
00:51:37,470 --> 00:51:40,360
Negroes have to be carried where
they're left to themselves,
722
00:51:40,550 --> 00:51:43,720
they resort to mugging,
rape, slavery, dope traffic,
723
00:51:43,740 --> 00:51:45,560
and eventually cannibalism.
724
00:51:50,020 --> 00:51:51,960
And again, I'm just
gonna leave that there.
725
00:51:54,810 --> 00:51:58,870
If those statements do not contain
within themselves their own reputation,
726
00:52:00,700 --> 00:52:03,430
well, I leave you, I leave you there.
727
00:52:05,300 --> 00:52:10,270
They are certainly statements foreign
to the spirit and letter of scripture.
728
00:52:13,170 --> 00:52:17,680
Those certainly are certainly
should be shocking and outrageous
729
00:52:17,930 --> 00:52:21,000
statements so much for that.
730
00:52:22,700 --> 00:52:27,600
Of course, the big issue for which
Ruman is known is King James, only,
731
00:52:27,980 --> 00:52:32,600
but not merely King James, only,
but the most extreme form of it.
732
00:52:34,660 --> 00:52:36,040
His belief went beyond
733
00:52:37,540 --> 00:52:41,120
the belief of some that the King James
version came from the most reliable
734
00:52:41,310 --> 00:52:45,390
manuscripts and was the most accurate
735
00:52:47,010 --> 00:52:51,190
and the most trustworthy
translationally and theologically
736
00:52:52,490 --> 00:52:56,790
he went beyond the belief that the
King James translation itself is
737
00:52:57,310 --> 00:53:02,090
inherent and inspired and
indeed God's final written
738
00:53:02,120 --> 00:53:05,690
word and revelation to the
world. He went beyond even that
739
00:53:08,220 --> 00:53:12,880
to the statement that the
1611 King James Bible is
740
00:53:13,240 --> 00:53:18,040
superior to any Greek text that
the King James translation itself
741
00:53:18,110 --> 00:53:20,720
contained what he called
advanced revelation,
742
00:53:21,590 --> 00:53:26,300
that God actually revealed truths in
the King James translation that were not
743
00:53:26,300 --> 00:53:29,060
even present in the original languages.
744
00:53:32,010 --> 00:53:36,940
Ruckman taught that what he would
call so-called mistakes in the AB
745
00:53:36,940 --> 00:53:40,700
1611 are advanced revelation
746
00:53:42,390 --> 00:53:47,240
that these revelations slipped through
the 1611 committee unaware to them
747
00:53:48,340 --> 00:53:51,680
and gave advanced light
in advanced revelation
748
00:53:53,090 --> 00:53:57,740
again, um, where's your evidence for this?
749
00:53:59,290 --> 00:54:00,550
The King James Bible itself.
750
00:54:00,550 --> 00:54:04,830
There's no text of scripture in the
King James Bible that speaks of this.
751
00:54:05,330 --> 00:54:08,630
The King James translators themselves
would've emphatically denied it.
752
00:54:09,140 --> 00:54:13,590
They laid no claim to inerrancy
or inspiration. Indeed,
753
00:54:13,590 --> 00:54:17,430
they said there is no perfect work
that is not done by apostolic men.
754
00:54:17,430 --> 00:54:22,310
That's what the, they said in their own
preface to the King James translation.
755
00:54:23,460 --> 00:54:25,110
What Ruckman is basically saying is
756
00:54:27,010 --> 00:54:31,720
the translators themselves were
wrong. Don't believe them. Believe me.
757
00:54:32,920 --> 00:54:36,640
Ultimately that is what Ruckman is going
on. And in so many of his statements,
758
00:54:37,230 --> 00:54:38,160
he's basically saying,
759
00:54:39,310 --> 00:54:43,840
just trust me on this because he comes
up with things that were completely
760
00:54:43,840 --> 00:54:48,400
unheard of before he
said them because George,
761
00:54:48,780 --> 00:54:49,613
he made them up.
762
00:54:51,700 --> 00:54:55,560
So basically he may not have
said it and he kind of did.
763
00:54:56,450 --> 00:55:01,360
These are like personal revelations
to him that he found that no one
764
00:55:01,360 --> 00:55:04,080
else in history had known of.
765
00:55:06,020 --> 00:55:10,160
He is a cult later. There's
just no two ways about it.
766
00:55:12,030 --> 00:55:15,440
Ruckman claims that all, if you ha that
if all you have is the original Greek,
767
00:55:15,870 --> 00:55:19,400
then you lose light. The
Bible was not complete.
768
00:55:20,230 --> 00:55:21,200
That we need that.
769
00:55:21,620 --> 00:55:25,320
The King James adds something that
wasn't even in the original text.
770
00:55:26,710 --> 00:55:27,060
Well,
771
00:55:27,060 --> 00:55:31,620
all he can do is take Rockman's word
for it because there is not a word about
772
00:55:31,620 --> 00:55:36,140
such a teaching in the King James
text. There is not a word about that.
773
00:55:36,140 --> 00:55:38,900
Indeed there are words to the contrary
in the words of the King James
774
00:55:38,900 --> 00:55:40,380
translators themselves.
775
00:55:41,870 --> 00:55:44,560
This is a new novel teaching.
776
00:55:45,940 --> 00:55:48,680
It is not historic Christian belief
777
00:55:51,420 --> 00:55:52,800
in, uh, one of his writings.
778
00:55:52,890 --> 00:55:56,040
Ruman claims that if you obtain
a copy of one of his books,
779
00:55:56,700 --> 00:56:01,200
you will have 200 advanced revelations
that come from the inerrant English text.
780
00:56:02,810 --> 00:56:06,080
These are advanced revelations that
were completely overlooked or ignored by
781
00:56:06,090 --> 00:56:09,200
every major Christian scholar since 98 d
782
00:56:11,000 --> 00:56:15,890
between the writing the Bible itself
apparently and Ruckman no noticed it until
783
00:56:16,590 --> 00:56:21,130
he apparently came along to
reveal all these truths to us. Uh,
784
00:56:21,290 --> 00:56:23,900
I can find no other understanding
of what he's saying here,
785
00:56:26,480 --> 00:56:31,000
and we have this on no other authority
than his mere statement of it
786
00:56:32,450 --> 00:56:33,440
Again from Luckman.
787
00:56:33,500 --> 00:56:37,480
The King James translation is the last
and final statement God has given to the
788
00:56:37,480 --> 00:56:41,680
world. He has given it in the
universal language of the 20th century.
789
00:56:43,180 --> 00:56:46,050
Again, there are some,
as a note side note,
790
00:56:46,340 --> 00:56:49,290
there are some King James
only as who will claim
791
00:56:50,840 --> 00:56:55,570
that 80% or more of the world speak
English. Well, if you look at actual
792
00:56:57,150 --> 00:56:58,610
actual statistics,
793
00:56:59,160 --> 00:57:02,930
it's really less than 20%
of the world speak English.
794
00:57:04,350 --> 00:57:09,210
But why let honest and accurate
statistic get in your way when you have a
795
00:57:09,210 --> 00:57:13,890
narrative to push according to rap.
796
00:57:13,890 --> 00:57:18,570
And God slammed the door of
Revelation shut in 3 89 BC
797
00:57:20,070 --> 00:57:24,010
and slammed it shut again in 1611, uh,
798
00:57:24,070 --> 00:57:27,250
and did not reveal this truth
until Ruman came along. Apparently,
799
00:57:29,840 --> 00:57:31,010
according to Ruckman,
800
00:57:31,550 --> 00:57:36,370
any advanced revelations given by the
Holy Spirit are always revealed first from
801
00:57:36,680 --> 00:57:37,420
the king's.
802
00:57:37,420 --> 00:57:42,220
English is the authoritative standard
for truth in the universal language
803
00:57:42,480 --> 00:57:47,150
of the end times according
to Ruman, even the answer,
804
00:57:47,150 --> 00:57:51,950
Christ will have to speak English because
absolute time, absolute temperature,
805
00:57:52,190 --> 00:57:56,470
absolute location, and absolute
truth are English and that is final.
806
00:57:58,230 --> 00:57:59,360
According to Ruman,
807
00:57:59,940 --> 00:58:04,000
the King James version converted the whole
world into an English speaking world.
808
00:58:05,900 --> 00:58:06,733
And again,
809
00:58:07,060 --> 00:58:11,280
any effort to translate the Bible
into other languages will be
810
00:58:12,800 --> 00:58:17,030
right, will not be right if it
comes from the King James version,
811
00:58:18,930 --> 00:58:22,570
you'll be wrong when it
does not. So in other words,
812
00:58:22,710 --> 00:58:25,810
forget about translating
from Greek or Hebrew.
813
00:58:26,110 --> 00:58:27,450
God is done with the Greek or Hebrew.
814
00:58:28,350 --> 00:58:30,690
God has superior revelation
in the King James version.
815
00:58:30,790 --> 00:58:33,370
And if people are to
translate in other languages,
816
00:58:33,370 --> 00:58:36,770
they must do it from the
King James version only,
817
00:58:39,150 --> 00:58:42,850
um, according to Ruckman, because I
can't get any other sources for that.
818
00:58:43,320 --> 00:58:45,130
Certainly not in the Bible.
819
00:58:47,520 --> 00:58:48,970
Ruckman claims that uh,
820
00:58:49,110 --> 00:58:53,130
God could not use Spanish to
preserve his word because like Latin,
821
00:58:53,830 --> 00:58:55,650
it is tied to the Catholic church.
822
00:58:57,800 --> 00:58:58,290
Yeah.
823
00:58:58,290 --> 00:59:03,170
Apparently God is limited in
that way. Again, quoting Rman,
824
00:59:03,170 --> 00:59:07,330
we call these truths advanced revelations
because the Lord God revealed them
825
00:59:07,330 --> 00:59:10,410
through the King of James
Bible long after 1900.
826
00:59:12,510 --> 00:59:15,890
In other words, ruckman himself, uh,
827
00:59:16,350 --> 00:59:19,010
God revealed these new truths
in the King Jamesburg in 1611,
828
00:59:19,110 --> 00:59:24,060
but he didn't reveal them to the
world and let him know about what
829
00:59:24,460 --> 00:59:27,900
actually was revealed in the King
James version until Ruman came along.
830
00:59:30,000 --> 00:59:33,700
So it's just like any cult later,
you have to take his word for it.
831
00:59:36,550 --> 00:59:39,760
Well, I will just, uh,
mention one more subject,
832
00:59:40,820 --> 00:59:45,160
one more significant subject and just
a few things about some of his wild
833
00:59:45,160 --> 00:59:48,840
beliefs and then we're gonna let this
rest because I've let this go on for
834
00:59:50,060 --> 00:59:52,720
far more time than I think
Ruman even really deserves.
835
00:59:53,220 --> 00:59:58,160
But there are those who hold
to him and his teachings call
836
00:59:58,160 --> 01:00:02,280
him a great man of God. And, uh, sorry,
837
01:00:02,740 --> 01:00:03,573
I'm not seeing it.
838
01:00:06,940 --> 01:00:08,640
The pro-life issue,
839
01:00:08,860 --> 01:00:13,360
the issue of abortion is one
of the great issues of our age.
840
01:00:14,860 --> 01:00:17,640
And, uh, Peter Ruman places himself
841
01:00:20,740 --> 01:00:23,840
rather on the pro-choice side of things,
842
01:00:25,550 --> 01:00:28,120
many who are pro-life
843
01:00:30,260 --> 01:00:34,600
and consider that a major issue,
which it is somehow, again,
844
01:00:34,710 --> 01:00:39,680
give Ruckman a pass because he's
The great Mr. King James only.
845
01:00:41,030 --> 01:00:42,680
Well, you know, there are
a lot of other King James,
846
01:00:42,680 --> 01:00:47,550
only people out here who are a lot more
reliable people to follow than ruckman.
847
01:00:50,670 --> 01:00:53,950
A few words from Ruckman,
848
01:00:54,170 --> 01:00:58,950
the destruction of the unborn is
not murder in spite of all the
849
01:00:59,200 --> 01:01:02,390
pro-lifers. This from Peter Rockman,
850
01:01:05,700 --> 01:01:06,410
and again,
851
01:01:06,410 --> 01:01:11,120
commenting on a passage from Exus
21 Ruckman states advocates of birth
852
01:01:11,120 --> 01:01:14,720
control will notice that the destruction
of a child in the fetal or embryonic
853
01:01:14,770 --> 01:01:19,720
stage is not counted as murder in spite
of a literature published between 1960
854
01:01:19,740 --> 01:01:24,520
and 70 by overzealous kingdom builders
who habitually ignore the authority of
855
01:01:24,640 --> 01:01:27,000
scriptures when dealing with
personal and emotional issues.
856
01:01:29,170 --> 01:01:32,240
Rupin says, I do not teach
this, that abortion is murder.
857
01:01:32,860 --> 01:01:34,640
The clear scriptures in Genesis two,
858
01:01:34,700 --> 01:01:39,520
job 30 and 31 and Ezekiel 37
teach that there is no life in the
859
01:01:39,520 --> 01:01:41,880
human sense until there is breath.
860
01:01:44,420 --> 01:01:49,290
Rutman falsely claims that the
pro-life boy is rather murder
861
01:01:49,290 --> 01:01:54,110
grown woman than allow
a pre-born child to be
862
01:01:54,110 --> 01:01:56,350
killed. That is.
863
01:01:58,350 --> 01:01:59,183
.
864
01:02:00,710 --> 01:02:05,590
Absolutely slender. That is false.
865
01:02:07,860 --> 01:02:11,070
Even more problematically, Ruckman talks,
866
01:02:11,770 --> 01:02:16,510
the wrote chapters of Luke
describing Jesus Christ himself in
867
01:02:16,510 --> 01:02:20,860
Mary's womb. He says
this at this point, he,
868
01:02:21,910 --> 01:02:22,743
Jesus
869
01:02:23,840 --> 01:02:28,820
is an embryo beginning to turn
into a fetus in the womb He was not
870
01:02:28,980 --> 01:02:32,790
referred to as a person. He
is merely the seed of God.
871
01:02:33,730 --> 01:02:38,710
As long as Christ's body was being
formed in the womb he was not referred
872
01:02:38,730 --> 01:02:40,030
to as a person.
873
01:02:41,490 --> 01:02:45,190
It was not until he was born that
he was called the Son of God,
874
01:02:46,690 --> 01:02:49,630
rather in the future
tense that he shall be.
875
01:02:52,320 --> 01:02:56,590
Again, I don't have the time or the
inclination to go into depth refuting that
876
01:02:57,740 --> 01:03:02,310
that is rank false teaching.
877
01:03:04,570 --> 01:03:06,750
Now, Jeremiah one,
878
01:03:06,820 --> 01:03:09,830
when it talks about before
I formed you in the belly,
879
01:03:09,990 --> 01:03:14,070
I knew you one of the great
pro-life verses in the indeed it is.
880
01:03:15,570 --> 01:03:18,150
But Ruckman gets, tries to
sidestep that by saying,
881
01:03:18,150 --> 01:03:20,590
this is addressed to a grown
man who was not aborted.
882
01:03:21,890 --> 01:03:25,790
God could prophesy about knowing
Jeremiah before he was born because he
883
01:03:25,790 --> 01:03:28,390
eventually would become a person who
would actually successfully be born.
884
01:03:29,020 --> 01:03:32,670
That this is not something
that God would've said about
someone who was aborted.
885
01:03:34,450 --> 01:03:34,870
That's.
886
01:03:34,870 --> 01:03:38,470
Convenient. Another place
people Ruckman writes,
887
01:03:38,470 --> 01:03:41,430
John the Baptist and
Jeremiah were special cases.
888
01:03:41,780 --> 01:03:45,270
They were the exception to the
rule. It wasn't that convenient.
889
01:03:48,420 --> 01:03:51,150
Also, the scriptures are dealing
with children who were never aborted.
890
01:03:54,050 --> 01:03:56,990
So you have a scripture that
plainly teaches a pro-life position
891
01:03:58,670 --> 01:04:03,010
and you say that is an exception and that
it's talking about people who actually
892
01:04:03,010 --> 01:04:04,050
were successfully born.
893
01:04:04,270 --> 01:04:08,290
So that's why they could describe
them as being people whom God knew.
894
01:04:13,200 --> 01:04:14,250
I'll just close this up.
895
01:04:14,310 --> 01:04:17,090
I'm sorry to have taken so
much of your time with,
896
01:04:17,960 --> 01:04:19,990
with such trash,
897
01:04:21,130 --> 01:04:25,670
but I just wanna point out a
few of these wild teachings
898
01:04:26,050 --> 01:04:30,750
by a man who speaks so much about
the King James Bible and our final
899
01:04:30,750 --> 01:04:35,750
authority. And yet two seems to take
so much on himself as an authority.
900
01:04:36,260 --> 01:04:38,790
He's teaching these things
which no one else ever heard of.
901
01:04:38,810 --> 01:04:43,630
So apparently even the King James version
itself wasn't enough without rupin
902
01:04:43,810 --> 01:04:45,150
to tell you what it really means.
903
01:04:48,250 --> 01:04:50,670
At one point in his writings,
904
01:04:50,670 --> 01:04:54,430
Ruckman claims to hold 14 biblical truths,
905
01:04:54,430 --> 01:04:57,390
which all other Bible
teachers have overlooked. Hmm.
906
01:04:59,130 --> 01:05:01,270
And again, at one point he writes,
907
01:05:01,410 --> 01:05:04,790
do you realize then in the last two
chapters you have learned a dozen things
908
01:05:04,900 --> 01:05:07,950
that were unknown to the greatest
Bible teachers in the world.
909
01:05:09,050 --> 01:05:10,950
In 2000 years of church history,
910
01:05:11,180 --> 01:05:14,430
they haven't even been able to find the
passage which dealt with those things.
911
01:05:14,810 --> 01:05:18,340
We have been talking about Beat ruman,
912
01:05:19,010 --> 01:05:21,620
manufacturing new truths while you wait.
913
01:05:24,110 --> 01:05:28,800
Some of the things he taught
angels are 33 year old males
914
01:05:28,950 --> 01:05:29,840
without wings,
915
01:05:31,090 --> 01:05:35,960
women in the church age will
be changed into 33 year old
916
01:05:36,030 --> 01:05:40,440
male beings at the rapture. Well,
917
01:05:41,330 --> 01:05:42,320
isn't that interesting?
918
01:05:45,190 --> 01:05:47,480
According to Rutman in two Peter three,
919
01:05:47,900 --> 01:05:50,320
the flood that is being
referred to is not Noah's flood,
920
01:05:50,980 --> 01:05:54,400
but when Satan was cast
out of heaven, and he says,
921
01:05:54,940 --> 01:05:57,360
now who get a message so
simple all muddled up,
922
01:05:57,620 --> 01:06:01,480
answer every major fundamental Bible
scholar and teacher in the United States
923
01:06:01,550 --> 01:06:04,400
without one exception. In other words,
924
01:06:05,270 --> 01:06:08,280
Ruckman is saying he's the only one
that's right. Everyone else is wrong.
925
01:06:08,460 --> 01:06:12,480
He alone is right. He's
an authority unto himself.
926
01:06:15,700 --> 01:06:17,240
In one place, Rockman writes,
927
01:06:17,260 --> 01:06:21,320
God has ordained on Earth 12 boundaries
with 12 nations who are destined to
928
01:06:21,370 --> 01:06:24,800
leave this earth transported by
angels and populate outer space,
929
01:06:24,800 --> 01:06:25,960
infinitely and forever.
930
01:06:26,590 --> 01:06:29,560
Beginning with the 12
constellations seen every 12 months,
931
01:06:29,850 --> 01:06:34,080
Christians will have planets and
couples will replenish the earth. Hmm.
932
01:06:34,080 --> 01:06:37,400
This is sounding a lot like Mormonism,
but hey, it's Peter Ruckman,
933
01:06:37,420 --> 01:06:42,200
so it must be okay. Right? He talks a lot
about people being abducted by aliens.
934
01:06:42,820 --> 01:06:45,800
He talks about medieval
plagues being caused by UFOs,
935
01:06:46,140 --> 01:06:47,640
but he goes into even more detail.
936
01:06:48,660 --> 01:06:53,560
He talks about a B 52 down
by UFOs and disempowering the
937
01:06:53,560 --> 01:06:58,040
inhabitants of it talks about a Navy
ship being transported into the future
938
01:06:59,380 --> 01:07:03,040
claims. The CAA operates underground
alien breeding facilities.
939
01:07:04,940 --> 01:07:05,220
He.
940
01:07:05,220 --> 01:07:08,820
Goes on to talk about web footed
aliens, blue aliens with blue blood,
941
01:07:08,990 --> 01:07:12,300
black aliens with green blood,
gray aliens with clear blood.
942
01:07:13,760 --> 01:07:18,260
I'm just wondering where he's
getting this in particularly, um, how
943
01:07:19,970 --> 01:07:23,350
this is great deep Bible teaching.
944
01:07:24,880 --> 01:07:27,740
It just makes me sad when
people could be reading
945
01:07:29,560 --> 01:07:32,780
any number of people,
Jay Vernon McGee, uh,
946
01:07:32,780 --> 01:07:37,500
commenting on scripture or reading Charles
Spurgeon or Jonathan Edwards Luther,
947
01:07:38,920 --> 01:07:43,420
so many others. But instead
they're reading Recommend. Now,
948
01:07:43,420 --> 01:07:44,253
thankfully again,
949
01:07:45,140 --> 01:07:48,940
recommends circle is recommends circle
is Ruman Circle is relatively small, but
950
01:07:51,220 --> 01:07:56,220
I personally have experienced those
who hold him in such great regard.
951
01:07:57,880 --> 01:08:01,580
And I'm speaking for
myself, my own experience.
952
01:08:04,170 --> 01:08:06,660
Ruckman claims that Adam, when
he was originally created,
953
01:08:06,800 --> 01:08:08,500
had water flowing through his veins,
954
01:08:09,210 --> 01:08:12,740
that the forbidden fruit
was a grape with a seed
955
01:08:14,120 --> 01:08:18,060
that became blood when
the Adam and Eve ate it.
956
01:08:19,440 --> 01:08:23,620
Where he gets this, it's anyone's guess.
957
01:08:26,930 --> 01:08:28,100
According to Ruckman,
958
01:08:28,350 --> 01:08:32,940
Satan appeared as a 33 year old man who
seduced Eve and became the father of
959
01:08:33,010 --> 01:08:35,420
Kane. Ruckman says, no,
960
01:08:35,420 --> 01:08:39,500
Bible believer fails to recognize the
connection between Eve's sin and her first
961
01:08:39,570 --> 01:08:41,830
offspring. Well,
962
01:08:43,710 --> 01:08:47,880
actually a lot of Bible believers
do. According to Ruckman,
963
01:08:47,880 --> 01:08:52,440
Jesus was born on September 23rd and
will return on September 23rd. Indeed,
964
01:08:52,440 --> 01:08:55,560
Ruckman a couple of times
predicted not the exact date,
965
01:08:56,060 --> 01:08:59,360
but an approximate season in
which Jesus was to return.
966
01:09:00,580 --> 01:09:02,630
When that failed to materialize. Well,
967
01:09:04,170 --> 01:09:08,990
He claimed something about the
calendar being wrong or it was,
968
01:09:08,990 --> 01:09:13,070
you know, it wasn't him that was wrong.
So according to Ruckman, you, well,
969
01:09:13,070 --> 01:09:15,490
you couldn't predict the exact day,
970
01:09:16,070 --> 01:09:20,610
but you could predict the general season
in which Christ was to return. Anyway,
971
01:09:21,920 --> 01:09:26,330
another kind of a red light
to being a false teacher.
972
01:09:28,600 --> 01:09:32,210
Ruckman claims that his book on the
answer Christ will give you the antichrist
973
01:09:32,560 --> 01:09:37,090
name, his race, his religion,
his number, his sign, his mark,
974
01:09:37,470 --> 01:09:41,610
his height, his shape, his
letter, his favorite color,
975
01:09:42,230 --> 01:09:47,090
his favorite Bible. He
claims that the antichrist,
976
01:09:47,090 --> 01:09:50,570
he speaks about the antichrist
coming as he seven foot
977
01:09:52,210 --> 01:09:55,670
person coming descending in a ufo.
978
01:09:57,170 --> 01:10:01,430
He claims that he has thick black
lips and imparts the mark of the beast
979
01:10:02,180 --> 01:10:03,013
with a kiss.
980
01:10:04,410 --> 01:10:05,243
Uh.
981
01:10:07,430 --> 01:10:10,220
Again, where he comes up with this stuff.
982
01:10:13,990 --> 01:10:15,990
I don't wanna waste your time
any further on this. I mean,
983
01:10:15,990 --> 01:10:19,270
and I haven't spent a whole time, a
lot of time refuting these beliefs.
984
01:10:21,090 --> 01:10:23,790
It would take a lot of time and frankly,
985
01:10:24,940 --> 01:10:29,820
most people who follow this
man aren't really going
986
01:10:29,820 --> 01:10:34,440
to be highly persuaded.
They've, they have their cult,
987
01:10:34,670 --> 01:10:37,880
they have their leader and
they're gonna continue in it. But
988
01:10:39,740 --> 01:10:44,040
people who claim to be
some kind of conservative
Christians ground well grounded
989
01:10:44,100 --> 01:10:46,520
in biblical teaching,
990
01:10:47,460 --> 01:10:51,160
and yet they either
follow this man closely
991
01:10:52,340 --> 01:10:56,080
or they follow him loosely. But still,
992
01:10:56,080 --> 01:10:59,080
I would consider him as one of the
great Bible teachers. Or at any event,
993
01:10:59,500 --> 01:11:01,600
one of the great defenders
of the King James version.
994
01:11:05,700 --> 01:11:06,533
And I just,
995
01:11:08,470 --> 01:11:12,410
my final plea would be
simply look to the scripture.
996
01:11:14,050 --> 01:11:17,700
This is what I've had to do. This is
the lesson that I've had to learn.
997
01:11:18,880 --> 01:11:23,820
Lay aside all your preconceptions.
Lay aside all of your traditions.
998
01:11:24,340 --> 01:11:27,900
I mean, if you wanna believe some
belief system, you're free to do that.
999
01:11:29,940 --> 01:11:32,870
But if you wanna claim that
you're following the Bible,
1000
01:11:33,330 --> 01:11:36,190
if you wanna claim that you're
following the old paths,
1001
01:11:38,140 --> 01:11:41,860
Then follow the Bible.
Follow the Bible alone,
1002
01:11:42,590 --> 01:11:46,970
follow the text of scripture
and not some new advanced
1003
01:11:46,970 --> 01:11:48,370
revelations, not some
1004
01:11:50,280 --> 01:11:55,080
modern novel teaching
that no one ever heard of
1005
01:11:55,380 --> 01:11:59,040
in 2000 years of church history
until all of a sudden now it's true.
1006
01:11:59,730 --> 01:12:01,520
These are the marks of a cult,
1007
01:12:03,860 --> 01:12:07,860
not of Orthodox believers. Well,
1008
01:12:08,180 --> 01:12:11,860
I don't know if this was
the greatest podcast.
1009
01:12:12,580 --> 01:12:16,540
I hope in the future to have something
a little bit more substantive,
1010
01:12:16,620 --> 01:12:19,660
a little more, uh,
profitable to listen to.
1011
01:12:20,420 --> 01:12:23,220
I just wanted to get some of this
off my chest and share some of these
1012
01:12:25,170 --> 01:12:29,820
beliefs that should have been buried.
1013
01:12:31,280 --> 01:12:36,260
And again, you expect
someone from some wild
1014
01:12:36,850 --> 01:12:40,830
cult to come up with statements like this.
1015
01:12:40,930 --> 01:12:45,910
You expect someone from one
of the strange, uh, burn
1016
01:12:47,660 --> 01:12:49,350
corners of professed Christianity,
1017
01:12:51,390 --> 01:12:56,090
but in a circle where people are
laying some kind of claim to be
1018
01:12:56,510 --> 01:12:58,090
old fashioned fundamental
1019
01:13:00,830 --> 01:13:02,420
Bible believing Baptists,
1020
01:13:04,040 --> 01:13:07,020
and this is your great leader.
1021
01:13:08,420 --> 01:13:13,240
I appeal to you. Look to
scripture. Don't look to Ruckman.
1022
01:13:15,250 --> 01:13:17,800
Don't look ultimately to any teacher,
1023
01:13:18,340 --> 01:13:22,320
except as he can be verified to the plain
1024
01:13:23,690 --> 01:13:27,050
teaching of the word of God. I, again,
1025
01:13:28,130 --> 01:13:31,370
I hope to have a better
episode next time. Until then,
1026
01:13:34,670 --> 01:13:36,370
God go with God again. As I said,
1027
01:13:36,490 --> 01:13:40,650
I think that first moment where
I read from scripture that
1028
01:13:41,590 --> 01:13:45,090
if you received nothing else
from it, go back, hear that word.
1029
01:13:46,150 --> 01:13:50,330
And perhaps I can expound more on that
scripture at some point in the future.
1030
01:13:50,900 --> 01:13:52,890
Until then, go with God.
