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Jan. 30, 2023

On Black Organ Donation, I'm Not Yelling, and White Fragility Featuring Robert Chelsea, Elizabeth Leiba, and Dr. Robin DiAngelo

On Black Organ Donation, I'm Not Yelling, and White Fragility Featuring Robert Chelsea, Elizabeth Leiba, and Dr. Robin DiAngelo
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A Moment with Erik Fleming

In this episode, Robert Chelsea, the first African American male to receive a face transplant, makes an appeal for more Black organ donors; Elizabeth Leiba, author of the new book I'm Not Yelling, talks about why it was important to write this book; and Dr. Robin DiAngelo, author of the books White Fragility and Nice Racism, discusses the challenges of getting white allies to understand their role in systemic racism. --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/erik-fleming1/support

Robert Chelsea

VP of The Robert Chelsea Foundation

Face transplant recipient

Robin DiAngelo Profile Photo

Robin DiAngelo

Academic; Writer; Consultant

Dr. DiAngelo is an Affiliate Associate Professor of Education at the University of Washington. In addition, she holds two Honorary Doctorates. She is a two-time winner of the Student’s Choice Award for Educator of the Year at the University of Washington’s School of Social Work. She has numerous publications and books, including the award-winning textbook Is Everybody Really Equal?: An Introduction to Key Concepts in Critical Social Justice Education, co-written with Özlem Sensoy. In 2011 she coined the term White Fragility in an academic article which has influenced the international dialogue on race. Her book, White Fragility: Why It’s So Hard For White People To Talk About Racism was released in June of 2018 and debuted on the New York Times Bestseller List, where it remained for over three years and has been translated into 12 languages. Her follow-up book, released in June of 2021, is: Nice Racism: How Progressive White People Perpetuate Racial Harm. Her work or interviews have been featured in the New York Times, The Guardian, CNN, MSNBC, CBS, NPR, PBS, and The BBC, among many other forums. In addition to her academic work, Dr. DiAngelo has been a consultant, educator and facilitator for over 20 years on issues of racial and social justice. She has worked with a wide-range of organizations including private, non-profit, and governmental.