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Sept. 1, 2022

Our Story Part 3: The Gaslighting and Flanking

Our Story Part 3: The Gaslighting and Flanking
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Trigger warning: If you have experienced spiritual abuse, emotional abuse, psychological abuse or any type of abuse especially in a faith-based environment, this episode deals with content that may be triggering. Please feel free to listen in small chunks or if this is too traumatizing, please feel free to not listen until you are ready. We do recommend speaking with a therapist who is trauma-informed. Please take good care of yourself.

Lori and Jason Adams-Brown share their story of spiritual abuse, emotional abuse and psychological abuse at Echo.church in San Jose, CA at the hands of Andy Wood and Filipe Santos. Their story is by no means the worst story of abuse behind the curtain of Echo.church, but it is one that is not covered by the many NDA's that Andy and Filipe had many staff sign over the years in order to control the narrative and image manage the abuse of particular staff over the years. Many former staff have shared their stories, but due to fear of going public and also the many NDA's, there is much fear. This is part three of their story. (Please listen to parts one and two for context on this EPS.)

Articles about the abusive environment at Echo.church:

Religion News article

Julie Roys's 4th article

Jule Roys's 3rd article

Julie Roys's 2nd article

Julie Roys's 1st article

Lori's appearance as a guest on Talkin' Politics and Religion Without Killin' Each Other podcast with Corey Nathan.

Books to read as resources:

A Church Called TOV: Forming a Goodness Culture That Resists Abuses of Power and Promotes Healing by Dr. Scot McKnight and Laura Barringer


When Narcissm Comes to Church: Healing Your Community From Emotional and Spiritual Abuse by Dr. Chuck DeGroat

Redeeming Power: Understanding Authority and Abuse in the Church by Dr. Diane Langberg

Something's Not Right: Decoding the Hidden Tactics of Abuse--and Freeing Yourself from Its Power by Dr. Wade Mullen

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