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Welcome to the a World of Difference
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podcast. I'm Lori Adams Brown, and this is
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a World of Difference podcast, this end of
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Women's History Month, where we are
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looking back over this month and
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recognizing the incredible women that have
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been on this podcast, not only over the
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past month, but also over the last year.
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And when I think about women around the
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world, it's truly inspiring what women are
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achieving. And it's also important to look
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back over history to find out what
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mistakes were made, what obstacles were
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overcome or not overcome yet. And in light
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of that, today I'm going to be talking
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about not only walking through the annals
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of history, uncovering stories that shape
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our world, which we often do here, but
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today we are going to embark on a point of
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exploration of the Equal Rights Amendment
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here in the United States, alongside a
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comparative reflection on the global
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efforts for women's equality, including
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the Convention on the Elimination of all
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forms of discrimination against women. C e
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d a w. So buckle up. We are going to go
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for a ride today throughout history to
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find out what the obstacles were and why.
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Until today, the Equal Rights Amendment
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has not yet been passed in the United
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States. So if that is news to you, this
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podcast will hopefully make a difference
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in your life and give you a different
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perspective on what it really means to
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have equal rights and why that has not yet
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fully happened in the US and the US
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Constitution. The history of the era in
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the United States is one marked by
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resilience, setbacks, and ongoing
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advocacy. In the year 1920, the many women
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had fought for the right to vote here in
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the United States, where I'm recording
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this podcast here in Los Angeles,
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California. But it's also important to
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note that even though the right to vote is
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enshrined in the US constitution, thanks
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to the work of many, many people over many
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years, until today, the era, the equal
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Rights amendment has not been enshrined in
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the constitution, which may be a shock to
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many of you around the world listening,
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whether you are a US citizen here in the
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US or living abroad, or a citizen of any
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of the other 92 countries that listen to
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this podcast. If you have always assumed
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equal rights were enshrined in the US
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constitution, today we're going to unpack
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a little of the history as to why that
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hasn't happened. Many of you know I sit on
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the board of a nonprofit in DC called
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Justice Revival, and we have been working
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to pass the Equal Rights Amendment,
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working in cooperation with others in the
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ERA coalition to help get this ushered in.
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Very soon, because it's way past time,
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we're going to dig a little into the
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history today. The ERA was actually
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proposed in 1923 by a suffragist named
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Alice Paul. Many of you have probably
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heard of the Seneca Falls convention in
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New York. That was 100 years ago last
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year. And if you'll go back and listen, in
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March of last year, I had Alison McKinney
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on. She's a lawyer, and she founded
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Justice Revival. She was at the 100th
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anniversary of the era and at Seneca Falls
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revisiting that location. And she spoke
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about her work with the era last year in
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March on the podcast. So go back and
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listen to that episode for more
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information from her point of view and her
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different perspective. But it's important
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to note that in 1923, suffragist Alice
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Paul did bring this era to the United
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States and to the government, and the ERA
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basically aimed to constitutionally
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guarantee equal rights under the law,
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regardless of sex. After decades of
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tirelessly painting by women's rights
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activists, though, the erA was finally
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passed by Congress in 1972. However, it
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fell short of ratification, failing to
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meet the required number of states by the
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1982 deadline. Now, there's a lot of
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information around this deadline and some
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of the arbitrary nature of the deadlines
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that have been imposed on the era, and
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many, many conversations around that. But
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all of the history has evolved into the
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amendment actually going above and beyond
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what needs to happen for it to be fully
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enshrined in the constitution. In fact,
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all that would really need to happen at
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this point is for the archivist to just
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sign it in. President Biden could do
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something. There was some movement in 2020
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under the Trump administration that got
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thwarted during that time. But if you look
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into the history of the eRa, it's been one
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of both incredible activism as well as
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some significant obstacles and some very
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nuanced history. So we're going to dig
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into that a little bit, too. So while the
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ERA struggled for ratification
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domestically, the fight for gender
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equality continued globally. So
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organizations like the United nations have
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played a crucial role in advancing women's
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rights worldwide, notably through
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conventions like CEDAW that I mentioned
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earlier. Adopted in 1979, CEDAW is often
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hailed as an international bill of rights
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for women, aiming to eliminate
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discrimination against all women in all
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spheres of life. However, despite strides
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made through CEDAW and other international
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efforts, disparities persist in various
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parts of the world, underscoring the need
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for continued advocacy and support. So
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unequal pay is a big one, both here in the
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United States and many other countries.
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Limited access to education and
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healthcare. We see that in several
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countries around the world, and even here
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in the United States, there's some issues
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around some of that. And women continue to
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face systemic challenges that hinder their
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full participation and empowerment. So in
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light of that, it's interesting to note
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that some of the reasons I often get asked
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this question, I sit on the board of
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justice revival once again. And I, even
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earlier in March, by the time this airs,
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will have presented at the company where I
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work, a tech company in Silicon Valley, on
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the history of the Equal Rights Amendment
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for one of our global dei calls. And as
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always, you know, preparing through that
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presentation, I was reminded once again of
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some of the obstacles that really happened
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in the US history that thwarted the
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efforts for the Equal Rights Amendment to
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be passed. And so one of those is there
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was this person, whoher name is Phyllis
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Schlafly, and she, in the seventies and
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even some of the eighties, was very much
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involved in starting sort of a counter
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campaign for the Equal Rights Amendment.
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grassroots campaign, where she would call
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different women lists of women and get
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them to organize around baking, for
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example, baking pies or baking bread, and
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taking it to the offices of political
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officials who would be instrumental in
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ushering in the era and sort of helping to
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change their minds. And she also used a
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campaign that worked, unfortunately, very
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well. It was very fear based about what
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the outcomes, outcomes of the ERA would
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be, not necessarily based on research or
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data or any factual information, but very
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much creating a fear based reaction. And
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the marketing for it all was quite good.
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She had these badges that women would
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wear, and it said stop era. And it was
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very catchy, very easy to understand the
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direction of the movement, that it was
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about stopping something based on fear.
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predicting would happen were things like
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women would now be required to be in
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combat or there would be unisex bathrooms,
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things that caused fear. And, you know,
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today, it's kind of interesting to look
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back in 2024 across the years and think,
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well, we do have unisex bathrooms, and
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it's not all that bad. As a woman. My
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perspective is it means the lines for the
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restroom are a whole lot less long then,
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because if you, anybody who's a woman
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who's gone to the bathroom at an event or
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a stadium, you see these very short lines
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for the men's room, and then the women's
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room is so much of a longer line. So
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unisex bathrooms mean that we don't have
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to separate based on that. And then women
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are in combat. I mean, since the eighties,
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we've kind of seen that, and it's kind of
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wonderful, and that women are allowed to
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have a position in that way and
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everybody's okay if, you know, that
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happens. It's sort of normalized now. And
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so some of the fears around that happening
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are pretty on this side of history,
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unfounded. And so, but it was a very
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effective way of stopping the campaign.
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And, you know, there's different
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narratives now as well, and that are kind
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of sort of nuanced versions of that. But
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really, it was largely the movement of
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Phyllis Schlafly that, you know, very much
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hindered the passage of the era at a
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pivotal point in history. I would
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encourage you to watch the show misses
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America. It features both Phyllis
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Schlafly, played by Kate Blanchett, who
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does an amazing job as an actress in that
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show, that short series, and then other
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figures in the movement, such as Gloria
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Steinem, which, when this podcast episode
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airs, will have already turned 90 years
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old and celebrating her birthday. I got to
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meet her in Abu Dhabi last year, in March,
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a year ago at the Forbes 3050 conference,
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where I was at for International Women's
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Day in Abu Dhabi, and got to have a short
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conversation with her which really meant a
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lot to me. I shared sort of about the
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women in my own family and our personal
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history around, you know, women's rights
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and that type of thing. And she just
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shared, you know, this is a collective
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effort. It's all of us. It's, you know,
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your mom, your grandma, your. We do this
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for our daughters and our granddaughters
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and that type of thing. And so it really
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was so encouraging to meet her. But she's
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featured as well in the Misses America
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series because she was instrumental in
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advocating for the era and still is. And
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so there have been many women and male
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allies who have worked hard to enshrine
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women's rights and girls rights in the
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constitution of the United States. But
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it's still a bit of an uphill battle with
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some obstacles. So I guess the question
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now is, what can we do to champion gender
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equality and support the ongoing fight for
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women's rights around the world, and
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particularly today. And I don't really do
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this very often here on the show, which is
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to highlight the nation where I'm
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currently living and what we can do. Cause
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it is an election year in the United
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States and there are choices being made
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about who to vote for. And I would really
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urge each of us who are us citizens that
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will be voting here in the United States
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or voting abroad, mailing in our ballots,
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which I did for 20 years, living in
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Southeast Asia, I would go to the US
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embassy in Singapore and mail in my ballot
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from there. And when I lived in Sumatra, I
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mailed it in as well. And so, yeah, I
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mean, there's choices being made very soon
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about who we're gonna vote for. And I
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would really urge you to vote for
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politicians that are supportive of the era
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because it's 2024, and all these other
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countries around the world have signed the
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CEDAW agreement, and the United States
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still hasn't. And also, we don't have an
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era for our own constitution, so what can
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we do? And that's what this podcast is
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all, all about, is bringing our
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differences around the table to make a
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difference together. So as a call to
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action, one impactful way is to really
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just support organizations dedicated to
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this cause, such as Justice Revival, where
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I sit on the board. By donating to Justice
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Revival at www.justicerevival.org donate,
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you can contribute to the initiatives
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aimed at advancing gender equality,
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including efforts to promote the
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ratification of the era and uphold the
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principles of CDC doll. Because, you know,
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human rights, women's rights, which are
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human rights, is so important. There's a
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lot of things we can get wrong, but that
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should just be a basic foundation. It's
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very important. A lot of things get put on
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the back burner when it comes to women. A
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lot of things have gotten put on the back
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burner for a hundred years of the era,
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which is why it has not been passed. So,
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and once again, if you listen to last year
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in March, the episode I did with Allyson
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McKinney, she was describing the Senate
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hearing that had happened the first time
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in 40 years around the era and why it
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still didn't go through. There's a very
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concerted effort to thwart this or even
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sideline it and put it on the back burner.
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So I don't think half the nation, half the
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world should be put on any backburner. So
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it's time 2024 to pass the era. So I would
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love to hear what you think about all of
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this and this episode in particular. And
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if you're interested in learning more
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about justice revival, please reach out. I
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would love for you to donate and help our
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efforts because it does take money to get
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these things done. But at Justice Revival,
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we have faith for era campaign. So if
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you're a person of faith, or even if
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you're not, you're welcome to join our
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hash faith for Era campaign with the
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number four and any faith community we
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encourage to come and be a part of
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bringing your experience, your perspective
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around this movement. Because certainly we
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can all agree, whatever our faith
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background is, that women's rights matter
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and that humans deserve dignity and
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respect, and women in particular have
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really been sidelined and forgotten and
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overlooked and really not fought for in
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ways that we should be fought for. And so
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together, we can come together with our
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differences, male allies, women on behalf
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of our daughters and granddaughters and
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future generations, but also for us now.
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So would love for you, wherever you are
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around the world. If you're in a country
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where the era has been passed, something
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along those lines long ago, or your
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constitution when it was drafted, included
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equal rights for women. If your country
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has signed on to CW, if you are working in
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any capacity for women's rights around the
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world, would love for your perspective. So
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please pop into any social media posts
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around this podcast. You can also join our
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difference maker community where we're
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going to be able to dm there in that
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community at www.patreon.com the
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worldofdifference where we'll have a more
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deep conversation around this. So also
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join in there for as little as $5 a month,
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but together. So hopefully what we can
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come away with as a call to action is to
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put our money where our mouth is, donate
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to organizations like justice revival,
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doing the work in DC, and together
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standing in solidarity with women
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everywhere, ensuring that the promise of
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equality becomes a reality for all because
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we can make a difference. And the way we
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make choices moving forward really matters
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for ourselves and future generations. So
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thank you for joining us for this
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enlightening conversation today around the
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fact that the US has not enshrined women
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and girls rights in the constitution. But
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hopefully very soon that will not be the
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case because all of you difference makers
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will come together around the world and
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help us make a difference here in the
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United States. I know people go all around
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the world from the US trying to work in
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different capacities, but it's rarely as a
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us citizen. It's to me, very shameful that
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we don't have this here in this nation. So
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it's time. 2024 it's time. Would love your
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thoughts around this. Thank you once again
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for joining this, all of you listeners
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around the world. You make me a better
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person, a better human being with your
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perspectives. Thanks for coming around
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this table with me and keep making making
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a difference wherever you are today. I
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have a special invitation for all of you
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