Feb. 10, 2025
TRAINER'S EYE #132 - "The Absol-ute Perfect Plan" ft. Caleb Hatfield from Rockets Markets
Discover how Caleb Hatfield’s path as a Pokémon Trainer led him from Pokémon Blue to reigniting his love for the franchise through Pokémon GO. As co-owner of Rockets Markets, he opens up about his venture into organizing Pokémon events in the Dallas-Fort Worth area and building Rockets Relics with business partner Joey Lopez. This episode is a must-listen for anyone interested in Pokémon entrepreneurship, Shiny hunting, or the evolving Pokémon community.
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Hey, I'm Caleb Hatfield from Rockets Markets and this is my Pokemon story.
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Welcome to As the Pokeball Turns, where we interview people about their experience with Pokemon.
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name is David Hernandez.
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I'm joined by Caleb Hatfield, co owner of Rocket's Markets, where they curate exceptional vendor markets, pop ups, and craft markets across a diverse range of genres.
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They both host TrainerCon, a dynamic Pokemon marketplace and convention where Pokemon trainers celebrate all things Pokemon.
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Thanks, man.
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David, you're such a professional.
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This is awesome to be on this with you.
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It is, and it's finally nice to bring you on because we met, I think,
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It had.
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was it three or four?
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And I was excited because I had never heard of a Pokemon trainer convention.
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I was like, yeah, I can get to be around other Pokemon people, just
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Heck yeah, man.
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I remember meeting you.
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I mean, I definitely was at at TrainerCon 3.
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That was the first time that we were at our new space.
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It was a much larger space than we'd had before.
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But, yeah, man, it was good to meet you and glad that we fostered a friendship out of this.
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For sure, and it's cool to see you also come out to the community.
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So it's clear that you have such a passion for Pokemon.
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Sure.
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So it started when, my parents graciously took me to a Toys R Us back in the day.
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we were walking down the aisle and I remember seeing Pokemon blue version and I just I had to have it my parents knew that I was into Pokemon and you know with a little bit of egging on they let me go home with Pokemon blue version
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What was it like to finally you play
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dude absolutely after watching the anime for so long it was interesting to to finally get to play and I was so excited I remember after beating the elite four I actually leveled up my dug trio to level 100.
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Oh, wow.
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Why your favorite Pokemon?
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Or was it just
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Not even close.
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Um, I have no idea why I dug Drio.
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I think I just heard that, you know, if you leveled up a Pokemon to level 100, then it like magically turned into Mew or something like that.
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And so, you know, it had be, it had to be, you know, those things were crazy.
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That's cool.
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Oh, geez.
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My starter had to be, Charizard for sure.
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Um, What's wrong with
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ha ha ha ha
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I you're right.
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You're right.
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After going back and playing as Bulbasaur and Venusaur, like, alright, there's some others that are pretty good in there.
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But you said you were also watching the anime beforehand,
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I mean, back at that point in my life, I didn't even realize that shows had a story to them.
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It was just kind of like, you know, the show's on.
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So let me just watch this episode and see what this episode is about.
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I didn't know that there was an overarching story to anything really.
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I just knew that Ash was 10 always and never beat the elite four.
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That's true, wouldn't have gotten to the games, it sounds
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Absolutely not.
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No, there would have been no way.
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How did you feel that now that Ash has kind of retired from the Pokemon franchise?
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It's bittersweet, man.
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to be honest, I haven't really kept up with the anime in quite a while, but, you can't stay 10 forever, I guess.
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He
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That's right.
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That's right.
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Oh,
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Charizard, Pokemon Blue I did Blastoise, And, I just love, being able to pick your own Pokemon, and just, know, develop kind of a bond, and going through all the Gym Leaders, because I always had trouble beating, because Alakazam and Kadabra were just so
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geez.
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Absolutely.
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Mhm.
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What about, did you stick with and
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Absolutely, man.
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I mean, well, okay.
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So I, played blue and I got yellow at a thrift store for like 5 bucks or something like that.
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I paid for it with my own allowance.
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It was that cheap.
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I actually didn't play 2nd gen for, I mean, a while.
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It was probably 5 years ago until I actually sat down with crystal and played it.
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I had blue and, and yellow and I was content with that.
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I, I didn't even know that there was a second generation for a while, so it went from first gen to, third gen and ho end, and then, you know, just kind of went on from there.
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I did play Soul Silver and Heart Gold whenever those came out, but the second gen just kind of slipped on by.
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That's crazy, especially considering how many people revered Gen 2 and it just slipped you You just, it just didn't care, you didn't care attached
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Well, it wasn't that I didn't, didn't want to get into it.
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I just didn't know it existed.
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I had no idea.
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It wasn't until I was at somebody's house, kind of just playing around and he busted out his game boy.
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And I remember seeing the classic, first gen graphics on the screen, but it had so much more color.
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I was like, what is this?
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Do you have a better game boy than I do or something?
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And, uh, then I saw all these different Pokemon that I hadn't, uh, I hadn't seen before and it was just kind of mind blowing.
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I was wondering, so, you know, you kept playing after, you know, Gen 3.
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Do you have a particular favorite, like, generation that you grew to play or
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I don't know, man.
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It's tough because like, you know, I grew up with the first gen, but.
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As I get older, like the, the third gen Pokemon going back to that art style and those Pokemon specifically, I just, I don't know, something just gravitates.
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I just gravitate towards the gen three, Pokemon and the art style.
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So I would have to say is definitely the best for me,
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What
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Flygon, um, Salamence.
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I mean, even like the little guys, like the Reggie's, Latias, Latios, Jirachi, all of the, the legendaries in that are just so sleek.
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they just have something to them, man.
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I agree, cause I mean,
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Mm hmm.
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Mm hmm.
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world building, I love the Pokemon specifically, like, there's not, I hate the most is Feebas, it pain catch.
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But, other than because it looks bad, it's just cause it was a pain, it was just a hard one to catch.
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I never, I Pokemon that I look at, I'm like, I don't really care for it.
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So, yeah.
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seemed like
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hmm.
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Dude.
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All of it, all of it, art style, the story.
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I mean, you, you hit the nail on the head, all of gen three.
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It doesn't miss.
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Absolutely.
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of those three starters and you'll have the probably similar difficulty.
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I think Mudkip has the most advantage probably out of the three, but it's not by you really would have still just a solid play Trico or Torchic as well.
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I'm right there with you, man.
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What's your favorite
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Pokemon?
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Dudee, it's a toss up between Quilava and Absol.
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So Quilava, just because, you know, I grew up a little emo kid and Quilava's pretty uh, pretty alt.
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been a favorite of mine for a while.
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Absol though, it's, first off, the dark type.
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It's something to it.
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You know, it's got a lot of type advantages.
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but also Absol, it may not be great at special attack, but it sure does have thunder it's got fire blast.
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It has blizzard that it can learn.
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It's got all, it can cover so much ground.
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it in your playthroughs, I assume?
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No.
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Well, it was.
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It was.
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I mean, okay, so it is my favorite Pokemon, but I've come to learn that it has some weaknesses to it, too.
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Used to.
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Used to, I would use it in, in my playthroughs, but, you know, I've grown a little bit, learned that there, there may be a few other Pokemon that can do the job a little better than Absol.
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Still holds a special place in my heart, though.
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Oh my, I mean, I can see that the emo stuck with you with as I called it when I like, it's kind of the emo Pokemon
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That's right.
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Yeah, exactly.
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Um, As I've grown older, I've come across people in my hometown that like, will talk about Pokemon.
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And at the time we had no idea that either of us played Pokemon.
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So I think in my community, it was kind of more hush hush about like, you know, there was something, taboo about being into Pokemon.
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Well, it was, I remember it was, there was a certain period where it was kind of, shameful in a way to be into Pokemon because some people either thought it was too little, you're too old to be into it.
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And then also, you know, nerd culture wasn't really embraced at the time.
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This is before, you know, the Marvel Cinematic Universe.
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I think, I always accredit that to really why people who have kind of nerdy of, I don't want to say come out, but they can kind of be more comfortable about Having kind of those interests and it just was a different time that thankfully it's gone
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Right.
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Yeah, absolutely.
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I mean, that's all that we want is for people to be who they want to be.
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So that's perfect.
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And I, you know, Pokemon kind of allows that.
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it does it does it does Well, as we keep going on, I know that I've met you at Pokemon Go at
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Go, I was actually a day one Pokemon Go download.
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I was so excited for it.
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And then I got out there and started playing and I was like, Oh, this kind of sucks, but my girlfriend at the time, she's now my fiance, she told me that she played Pokemon go and I was like, really?
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So she kind of got me back into it.
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Um, this was probably two years ago that I, that I really got back into it.
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2023, I think September, 2023.
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Now you were surprised, so was she not much
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So, as far as I know, like she would watch the episodes every once in a while.
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I don't think she's ever played a Pokemon game like a core game.
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Um, so learning that she was into Pokemon go.
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Yeah, it was, it was surprising.
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Um, I'm really glad that she did play it because, you know, it got me into it.
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Now it's, it's awesome.
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I love the raids, the max battles that they're introducing now.
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And just the, the community that's around Pokemon go, it's, it's so cool to go to, the stuff that.
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That you hold and, you know, where you're passing out those wristbands.
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I mean, I've got a, a backpack full of all the, the wristbands that you, uh, that given out now.
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So.
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And if you want one of them wristbands, you can become one by Anyway, Ha ha
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That's perfect.
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do
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ha
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helps David out helps.
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Uh, so, Yeah, going to those Pokemon Go events is really cool, being able to see how much of a community there still is around Pokemon.
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This game that we've been playing since we were kids, it's still, it's still going strong.
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It's so, so cool.
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What would you and your girlfriend do?
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Would like y'all just take walks together or just would y'all's
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So, in the beginning, we kind of just like hung out and saw what was in our area.
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We're both kind of from a small town area.
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So there really wasn't much of a Pokemon go community.
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Um, it was just something more to do to pass the time.
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But when we got to Dallas, going in like, Oh, I see a red gem near us.
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Let's go mess them up.
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Let's go take over that gym.
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you know, she's in the yellow one, which is instinct.
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Okay.
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And I'm in blue with his, which is mythic, So.
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Yeah, we would kind of have a rivalry like, uh, whenever I saw a yellow gem, uh, you know, I'd be like, Oh, I'm about to mess you and your folks up.
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And same with her to me.
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but yeah, just kind of a friendly rivalry, I guess, is what we were going for.
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And, that kind of evolved to, you know what, maybe let's get out there and do a route or, Oh, I see this Pokemon that we don't have.
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Let's go find out where that is.
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And that just kind of evolved into like, Oh, well, there's this Pokemon go event that's going on at Addison circle park, you know, let's, let's go see what's going on there.
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And then there you are.
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so it was just kind of a, a fun evolution of, you know, it started innocently and now it's like just a thing that we do.
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almost like a social outing, it
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That's exactly right.
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Yeah.
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do you try to shiny hunt at all?
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Or, like, what's
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So shiny hunting is definitely a thing, especially when there's like a community day.
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she and I will, uh, we'll text each other screenshots of like, Oh my God, look who I just got.
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Look what shiny I just got.
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And, you know, it's, it's really cool.
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Awesome.
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That's amazing, It's cool to see how Pokemon goes kind of not only kind of enhance your I guess
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right.
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Yeah, it's kind of neat how Pokemon does that.
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I want to kind of dive into, you know, how we did meet, which was at the trainer and want to know, like, how did this start originally?
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It's like overseas it's by rocket markets, the kind of the oversight.
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How did y'all kind of kind
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Yeah, so, we started with our first event was held at a little coffee shop.
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Okay, well, let me back up.
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Our first kind of foray into getting into events within the Pokemon community was with Rockets Relics.
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That's a, a little company that are a little business that we made, uh, where we make, Diorama cubes from, the Pokemon TCG, we would, we would never cannibalize a card to do this, but we would take the image of those cards and kind of make it into a diorama, a 3d diorama where it has some dimension.
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And it's more of like a, collectible, a memorabilia piece, somebody to put it on their desk or whatever or like a shelf in their room.
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And it kind of evolved into like, well, we have this product, we started making air fresheners to go along with that.
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And then it was like, okay, well, we're going to these events and they're awesome.
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we want to hold events ourselves.
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So we created trainer con and trainer con is where we had, a marketplace where artists could come and, Set up their shop and sell their products and, you know, we saw what it would do for us and we wanted to spread the love within the community and and have other people do the same thing that we were doing.
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So we would have artists come, people that are selling sealed products like TCG products.
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People that are making clothes for, like, Pokemon themed clothes, you know, all different kinds of people in the Pokemon community.
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We just wanted to, to spread the love, to be a part of it, you know, So over time that evolved into us holding a TCG tournament and then like a super smash bros tournament, and then most recently a cosplay contest it's amazing to see how much fun there is within the community and how strong and how tight knit of a community, the Pokemon community is, there's always a friendly face that you see at, these events, like, uh, I'm by nature, somewhat of a loner and seeing all of these wonderful people at the markets, whether it be our markets or somebody else's is just, it's so neat.
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So neat to share a story about, what's going on.
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You know, I've learned so much about these people's families.
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So it's really such a tight knit community.
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and I've typically I'm more of like the product side of things.
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I create, things for us to sell, and then.
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Joey, my business partner is more on like the socializing with people.
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He's much more social than I am.
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Um, so he's kind of the, the voice of the company.
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I'm kind of the hands of the company, if that makes any sense.
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Earlier, uh, while you were talking, you said to kind of give people the opportunity that Jaw Guys received.
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hmm.
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I guess.
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Could you give me more insight on like, maybe you go into these events?
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Like before y'all started the whole rocket relics and everything, how did y'all experience going to these other events that made y'all want to start this?
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I mean, we were, we were nobodies within the Pokemon community.
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we really didn't have a name at all.
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And, being kind of boosted up by Indigo Plateau, they showcased us for one, one event.
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They put us on their Instagram story.
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People were coming to their market like, Oh my gosh, I saw your product on Indigo Plateau's Instagram story.
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I have to have this.
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