Oct. 4, 2023

TRAINER'S EYE #58 - "A Snorlax's Wayfarer Adventure" ft. Professor Glaw from Wayspotters Podcast

Professor Glaw, a Pokémon Trainer from Canada and co-host of the Wayspotters Podcast, reflects on his path through Pokémon GO, meeting trainers worldwide and transitioning into content creation. From the excitement of GO Fest to discussing the challenges of Wayfarer abuse, he sheds light on the issues affecting the community. His role at GO Hub has provided him with unique insights into how content drives the Pokémon GO experience for players.

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00:43 - Introduction

01:38 - Interview with Professor Glaw

26:09 - Commercial Break

39:59 - Thank You For Listening! :)

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My name is David Hernandez, and you're listening to As the Pokeball Turns.

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Welcome to As the Pokeball Turns, where the stories are real and people still play this game.

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One of Niantic core values is exploration.

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It's the idea of visiting a place, whether familiar or brand new.

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it could be a favorite destination, which makes a community unique, or a place that tells a story through its history or experiencing a new culture.

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For others, it might be going to a brand new place, traveling to a place that is unfamiliar.

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Regardless of how one engages with exploration, the idea of stepping outside one's own inner circle is consistent and is what drives my guest to interact with both Pokemon Go and the Wayfarer system.

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My guest is the writer for Pokemon Go Hub and the new co host of the Wavespotters podcast.

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From Canada, here is his origin story into the world of Pokemon Go.

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This is Professor Glaw.

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Today, I'm joined by a writer for GoHub and the new co host for the Wayspotters podcast, Professor Glaw.

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Glaw, welcome to the show.

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Thank you for having me.

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I'm glad to be here.

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Definitely.

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And you had some pretty big shoes to fill in for when you first started the podcast or when you joined the Wayspotters podcast.

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I did.

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I did.

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I had to take over for Lachlan, and he did a really, really good job when he was on the show with Jamal, so I was kind of nervous when I first took over.

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Seems to be going well.

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you've done a lot since.

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y'all started doing video.

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You started doing shorts, we're six months since your first debut.

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Has it lived up to what maybe you expected or envisioned when you joined the show?

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I think so.

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we were on the precipice of kind of big, big things, right?

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And Lachlan and Jamal did some great things.

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They had some great conversations with Niantic, we started doing the video, and it's just grown the podcast so much.

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Started adding new topics and new sections to the show and it was crazy how many people came up to us and recognized us from watching the videos.

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it blew me and Jamal away.

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Did they say like, Oh, you're the Wayspotters guys or something like that?

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Yeah, there was a couple, there was one time when I was, me and Jamal split up at one point.

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I went to go take some pictures of some stuff for my, for my daughter and someone walked up and they first noticed I was wearing a Wayfarer shirt.

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And they pointed out, they were like, Hey, where'd you get that shirt?

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And then they looked up and they were like, Hey, you're Chris from Wayspotters.

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I've seen you on YouTube.

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I literally stared at them for probably five or six seconds, not knowing what to say.

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It was weird.

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It's a very humbling experience or very awkward cause on one hand you're a podcaster, but then the other hand, it's like, these people recognize you and especially since you guys are on video on YouTube.

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YouTube's where a lot of people like to consume their content, Did you sign any autographs?

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I signed a couple of autographs, I did.

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Oh, wow.

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Dang.

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Famous right here.

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yeah, it was crazy.

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And it's, I think YouTube lends itself well to Wayspotters because Wayfarer is such a visual medium.

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A lot of people, they want to see what we're talking about and see the kind of things that we're putting up on the screen, while we're describing it, we try very, very hard to describe it for our audio only audience, and our audio only will never go away.

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So we're just trying to capture a separate audience and have a medium where we put the shorts out too, so that if you're listening to the audio version, you can go and look at the short and spend a minute and see what we were talking about.

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Right?

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So it just helps people visualize what we're talking about.

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What got you into Wayfarer to begin with?

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Wayfarer, I started Wayfarer in 2019 when it dropped for Pogo.

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I didn't play Ingress too much, so I wasn't near enough, high enough level and when it dropped for Pogo, the area that I was living in, I was living in Plattsburgh, New York at the time.

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they had basically nothing, so it was kind of very selfish for me.

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I wanted places where I could go grind.

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So the first thing I did was tricked out the park, the big park that they had there and put in, I think it's got three gyms now and 15 or 16 pokestops.

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So it's like the spot to go for community day and for raid days So that's what kind of got me started.

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What was it like for you to be able to create Pokestops for an area or community that didn't have any before?

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It was pretty cool.

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there wasn't a lot of people who knew what was going on, there was a lot of people in Plattsburgh that were like, Oh, we can make PokéStops now and they were just like, Ah, this is too intimidating.

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I don't want to.

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So it was me, Tristan, and Kirsten.

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We're like the three people who were taking over and making everything and it was really cool to hear, to see people pop up in the chat in the morning, if when something synced and popped up, like, Oh, there's a new gym over here.

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Oh, there's three or four new Pokestops over here.

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I got to sit back and watch the whole community get so excited about new places to go play.

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It was really, really cool, and it got me hooked.

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I was hooked ever since then.

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Did you have a lot of people who played Pokemon Go in that area, in spite of it not having a plentiful number of stops?

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There was about a hundred people in the chat.

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the Facebook chat was almost always maxed out.

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So yeah, there was a good healthy community there.

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There still is.

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Now, was that where you first started playing Pokemon GO or was it a different place?

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no, I first, so I've moved around a lot.

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I started playing Pokemon Go actually where I'm living now, in 2016 when it first came out.

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Like, I was day two, I was playing Pokemon Go, I had to, because I lived in Canada at the time, I had to download the APK and sideload it onto my phone, sorry Niantic, because they hadn't released it here yet, and I was like, no, I need to get it on this,

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It's like they should release it sooner!

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They should have, right?

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And I understand they had to slow roll it out because they had massive server issues back then, but I was like, yeah, I don't care.

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I want to play.

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So what was it like for you to play the first couple of days when it first came out?

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It was pretty cool.

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There was about five or six of us in the area that figured out how to download it and play it.

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And we were walking around and catching Pokemon and people were looking at us weird.

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And then it when they finally officially released it.

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everyone up here was playing, it was just, you couldn't walk 10 feet without bumping into somebody who was looking at their phone trying to catch something.

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it was nice for those first few days when it was just...

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A small group of us and they had a pretty healthy ingress community here back then.

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So there was lots of stops.

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I remember those moments felt the game felt more innocent, as before we cared about Shinies or cared about IVs and all that.

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It's just, we were just excited for Pokemon to be around.

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Yeah.

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Yeah, exactly.

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Yeah.

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And it was CP was the big thing back then because we didn't know about IVs and all that, so it was just like, oh, I got a bigger 1 show it off, throw it on the Facebook chat or whatever.

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Where would you and your friends go to play Pokemon Go in those days?

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we went down to the park at the lake.

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there's a big, very long, walkway that goes right along the beach.

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And it's a nice straight line, there's lots of trees, it's very shaded there.

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So that's the best place to play in the area.

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there's a spot in Ajax that has three gyms You can hit from one spot.

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So that was a big place to go to.

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Now are those places still the places people go to for like, say a community day or for raid days and stuff like that?

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Yes, absolutely.

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the park here in Oshawa is Full of people playing community day every month or like a couple of times a month, it's great.

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I, that's where I created my first route too.

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Really?

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So it'd be around that place?

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Yeah, it goes from one end of the walkway down to the other.

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So that's like the, you start at one end and then you go down and then you just go back and forth down that path.

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That's where I created the route because I got early access to it.

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That's the grind spot for everybody on community day.

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Before Pokemon Go, did you have any experience with Pokemon?

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I actually started playing Pokemon when it first came out when I was a kid I had Pokemon Red for Game Boy way back when.

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So I've been playing Pokemon for a while.

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I got out of it for a few years.

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I think I played Gen 1, Maybe I played Gen 3 and then I didn't play anything until...

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Ultra Sun, Ultra Moon.

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So there's a big gap where I didn't play anything.

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But I started having kids, and they started getting big into Pokemon, and then I'd make fun of them for knowing every single Pokemon name, but not the names of their friends.

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And then they got Ultra Sun and Ultra Moon, and there was like the Ultra Room, so I'm like, well, this is kind of cool, so I took the DS and I started playing again, and that's when I got back into

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I gotcha.

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And I believe Ultra Sun and Ultra Moon came around the same time as Pokemon Go as well, right?

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It was very similar timing, yes.

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so that's originally the reason that I wanted to play Pogo, was because I looked at it as something that I could play with my kids.

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Do you and your kids still play?

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I do, my kids do not.

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Oh, that's unfortunate.

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You get back into it.

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Yeah.

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I'm gonna try and get the little ones into it.

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Every time I catch a shiny, I let them, like a unique shiny, I let them pick the name.

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Some of the names they come up with are hilarious.

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Can you share some of the names that you've actually named some of your Pokemon?

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Yeah.

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Let me pull it up.

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Keep in mind that they are 10.

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Of course, of course.

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I'm not expecting any I'm not expecting a sophisticated name here.

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I'm just very curious.

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It sounds very cute.

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Let me pull it up here.

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they named one of my snore, my shiny Snorlax, buffet.

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Okay.

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They named one of my shiny Skip Loom Skippy.

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My shiny Sylveon is named Sparkles.

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They named my shiny, Meganium Twinsies because I played that community day with my other son and he caught the exact same Pokémon as shiny.

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Oh, wow.

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So y'all both have the same shiny?

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yeah, both have the exact same one, yeah.

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They named my...

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one of my shiny Magikarps, they named it Goldie and now it's evolved into a Gyarados, so I have a bred Gyarados named Goldie.

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Oh, here's a good one.

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my shiny Sunflora is named Kenflower

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Kenflower?

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Because when my son named that one, he was playing, Street Fighter.

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Oh, okay.

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he named it after his favorite character in Street Fighter, Ken.

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That's awesome, man.

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my shiny red ice is Snowman Icy.

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Snowman.

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my Shiny Lopunny is Love Bunny.

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My daughter named that one, but it's got no e so it's Love Bunny.

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It's love, but, so it's L o v B u N Y.

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okay.

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Awesome.

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Love, love bunny.

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Oh my gosh.

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I was thinking it was gonna be L U V.

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No.

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Oh, yeah.

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No, she, uh, no, she got that one, right?

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my shiny Scyther is named Seth for some reason.

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Oh, cool, man.

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Thanks for sharing some of those names.

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Yeah, no worries.

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So do you have a favorite Pokemon at all?

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Snorlax is my favorite Pokemon.

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Snorlax has been my favorite Pokemon since gen 1.

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Really?

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Just, any particular reason why?

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he's big fat and lazy and there are, that's, I, one of my favorite things to do is just lounge around and be lazy and eat snacks, so.

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I

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It really resonated with me.

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as a parent, I hear sleeping's not too common,

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Yeah, my kids are older now, like my youngest are ten, so it's not so bad.

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My wife lets me sleep in every day because I work till midnight every day, so it's not so bad.

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What do you think of the new sleep Snorlax with the hat?

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I think it's pretty cool.

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It's really cute.

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I really wanted a shiny one, but I didn't manage to get one, so...

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Oh man, nobody was able to hook you up to GoFest?

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No, I couldn't find anybody that had an extra to trade away.

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Everybody I asked, were just like, No, I've only got the one and I want to keep it.

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And I'm like, I hate you! Give it to me!

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So obviously Wayfarer comes out in 2019.

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Before that, like, how do you play Pokemon Go?

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what's your...

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Way to play?

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I'm not what you would call like a hardcore grinder.

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I play a couple hours every day.

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when I'm at home, I'll open the game once in a while and catch what's here.

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I'm lucky right now I have a gym that I can catch from my house.

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I get my coins pretty much every day.

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I go out once in a while, if I'm going out for a walk, I'll go out for a stroll, I'll play.

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I play a little bit when I'm at work and then I'll try and play every single community day, like the whole time.

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I'm not even level 50 yet.

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I don't PvP much at all.

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I got to level 20 once just to prove to myself that I could do it.

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When the Sylph Tournaments first come out.

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I was big into it then because we had just enough people to run the tournaments so I had to participate because I was one of the community leaders.

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So I was into it then I did decently, but like I was never, I never won a tournament and I never really got very good at it.

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So it's just one of those things that I do for the stardust when I can, but oftentimes I do, I forget to do all my battles every day.

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So what was your first Niantic Live event?

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Ooh, my first Niantic five I found, I think was.

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GO Fest 2019 in Chicago.

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it was overwhelming and very exciting for the first time.

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I was living in Cornwall at the time, so a couple of us decided that we were going to go and we drove down.

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We got an Airbnb and we stayed like in Chicago.

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So it wasn't so bad.

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We took a cab out to the park.

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And then I just remember walking into the parks for the first time and just seeing like a thousand people ready to play Pokemon go.

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And I was like, this is super cool.

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And they have an inflatable Pokemon and whole habitats where they had stuff set up and it was really cool, super cool.

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And I had met so many good people that weekend that it was just amazing.

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And I swore to myself that I would never miss another one again, and then COVID hit.

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Hey, I mean, well, you only missed one, that was Seattle.

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Otherwise,

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Yeah, I didn't get a chance get up to Seattle, yeah, but it was a really good experience.

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I still talk to people that I met from GoFest in Chicago.

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would it be just random people you meet along the street or just playing the game, or was it people that you met prior to?

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no, it was just a couple people that I met in the park that we just sat and had a really good chat.

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I added them on, on Facebook before I parted ways.

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Oh, that's awesome,

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So it's, yeah, that's the great thing about Pokemon Go is it brings people together on a global level.

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And I was going to say, you probably have a good experience with that because you said you moved around a lot, right?

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I have, I've lived in five different cities in my life.

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It's just since Pogo was released.

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So I'm in a couple of discords for several different cities at this point, and I have friends all over.

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That's going to say, like, you've had the perfect opportunity to experience how this game brings people together by, I'm pretty sure that's probably happened in every single city.

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Yeah, absolutely, yeah.

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it's a melting pot in every single city, and the communities come together in different ways, and it was really cool to see people take up the mantle of being a community leader, and to bring people together.

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And it's just really cool to see people Come out of the shell, when they start playing Pokemon, you know?

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You see them evolve over time to people who wouldn't say a word to, now they're social people that keep going and going and going.

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Yeah, absolutely.

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I've met people who were like in their 60s and their late 50s who were just like, Oh, I used to sit on the couch and just watch TV and now I get out and I play Pokemon and it's changed my life because now I'm healthier because I'm going for a two, three kilometer walk every day.

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it's just getting people out there and getting people active and getting people involved in the community.

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And I met one guy who was like, I didn't talk to anybody.

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Now I have 50 people that I talk to every single day and it's done wonders for their mental health.

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That's what I've always loved too, because, especially community days, I remember I always see families, there'll be the kids and the wife and the, husband, they're walking, it's like a game night almost, to where they're playing Pokemon Go, and they're just catching, you got the kid who's super excited, like, oh, look, daddy, I got, look, mommy, I got a shiny or whatever, and stuff like that is what keeps me playing.

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I remember we used to walk around when my kids were really, really young.

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we got them little tablets that they could play on.

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So me and my wife would walk up and on the street and we'd play and then they'd play and of course they were like super little.

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So they were just throwing bottles all over the place, but you could tell when they caught one because they would just get super excited and start giggling because it would, catch and they'd be like, yeah, yeah.

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Yeah, they have so much excitement.

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Yeah, every once in a while, they'd start yelling and then did, cause they, they find a Pokemon that they thought was really cute and they didn't want to lose it.

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They're like, you can't do catch.

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And I was like, all right, I'll catch this one for you.

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So, New York City is this past year, you got to go this time as a content creator instead of a regular person you did in Chicago.

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How was it different for you, in your opinion, going to New York City as a co host of Wayspotters compared to how you went in 2019 in Chicago as a regular player?

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in 2019, I just went as a player.

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I wasn't big into watching the YouTube or to tell you the truth.

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I don't even know podcast existed back then.

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Right?

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So I was just a guy walking around trying to meet people trying to be as sociable as possible and just grind and catch Pokemon.

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Right?

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This time around, it was a very surreal experience going as a content creator, especially as the on the group that we're with.

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So we would go and we had a couple of meetups with some of the bunch of the patreons before and we were doing little chats and stuff.

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When we got to the park, we got to go over and meet with this group and, we hung out with, different podcast groups and a couple of YouTubers and it was a social networking event, I think, in conjunction with playing the game.

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I think we grinded a lot less than I did in 2019, but Just running into people from the community and having chats with people from the community about Wayfarer and about Wayspotters And just about Pokemon in general.

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I think I enjoyed this experience a lot more than I did in 2019 because I was more in touch with what the community was doing what the community wanted and just saying hi to people and just being more more social and focusing more on that aspect than the playing the game.

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I don't think I finished the research until like late Sunday

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That's right.

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But it was it was very structured to a point and I liked that.

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it was really cool and getting to meet like you and all the other patrons and some other Podcasters that I listened to getting to meet everybody for the first time like actually face to face was really cool experience And having people walk up to me in the park and be like, Hey, you're Chris from the Wayspotters and you're Jamal from the Wayspotters.

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Can I get a picture?

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Can you sign this, postcard?

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can we, and I was just like, hold on, you recognize me?

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This is crazy.

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It was very, very humbling and very overwhelming.

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I think a little bit at first.

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I don't want to say I got used to it by the end, but it was less overwhelming at the beginning.

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The first couple of times me and Jabal just kind of looked at each other and we're like, is this happening?

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Is this for real?

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Yeah,

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Is this for real?

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Yeah.

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There was a couple of times.

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There's 1 time.

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that we had stopped because Jamal needed to do a special trade with someone and we just ended up literally by chance stopping besides someone who's watched the YouTube and he just turned over and was like, hey, you're the way spotters and we were just kind of like.

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Yes.

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Yes, we are.

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Wow.

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Okay.

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Then, it was a really good chat and we got to meet some really cool people in the community who listen and we said to everybody, if you have show ideas, let us know and, we'll use it as a topic.

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the more that we get our community involved in what we're doing, the better off everyone's going to be.

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So it was just really cool to meet some of the people.

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And there's a few that we missed, that I was really disappointed that we didn't get to meet, but there's always next year.

00:19:27.471 --> 00:19:36.051
Now, one thing that's interesting is I know GoFest you in Chicago in 2019, right soon after that, you eventually started working for GoHub, but you also started like trying to do content creation.

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You dipped your toe into it.

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That's when you eventually started doing YouTube.

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Did you always have the desire to do content creation, after that GoFest, or what made you want to do content creation to do the writing?

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I've always wanted to give back to the community and do it in a way that was informative and fun.

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I'm a big writer.

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I like writing.

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I've been trying to write a novel for the longest time and I just can't ever seem to get it off the ground, so when I saw on Twitter that Go Hub was hiring writers, I was like, yeah, I'm going to give it a shot.

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I want to, it seems like a cool thing to do.

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And then we moved to Plattsburgh and I got the email saying, Hey, congratulations.

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You've been chosen.

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I was just so excited.

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that they had hired me and I could get to start that.

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The YouTube, it's a lot of work like, I don't think that I realized just how much work goes into that when I started it.

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that's why it's falling off a little bit.

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I want to get back into it, but it's a lot of work between GoHub and then the Wayspotters and then trying to do the YouTube, um, especially when with the Wayspotters doing the video as well, right?

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So it takes up a lot of my time, but it's totally worth it giving back to the community and just having people enjoy the content that you're putting out.

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It's just, it's a very rewarding experience.

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There's a couple of times people were just like, Hey, I read your articles on GoHub and they're really cool.

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And I really enjoy that all the writing that you guys do.

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So that's, it makes you feel good when people are like, Hey, I enjoy the things that you are putting out into the world.

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and it enriches their life.

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It's just such a rewarding experience.

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What topics do you try to focus on when it comes to writing for GoHub?

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I do mostly data mining articles, and kind of stuff that speculates about the future about what certain.

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and see what oh, what's gonna happen kind of thing, right?

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right.

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Like I did 1 on.

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I'm going to do 1 on, what breeding might look like.

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I got 1 coming up that's going to be way too early speculation on where GoFest is going to be next year, I'm gonna talk about,

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let's hold on real quick.

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Let's speculate where we think GoFest is gonna be.

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So I'll let you go first and then I'll go.

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so right now at the time of this recording Where do you think GO Fest could be next year?

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I, my gut tells me somewhere in California.

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I would not be surprised if it was San Francisco, that is the number one spot that I'm picking, because they seem to be going East Coast, West Coast, because it was Chicago for a bit, and then it was Seattle, and then it was New York, so I think they're going to go back to the West Coast of U.

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S.

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think there's always going to be one in Japan, there's always going to be one in Japan, there's always going to be one in Europe, and then there's always going to be one in the U.

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S.

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So think San Francisco.

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what do you think?

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My guess is Hawaii and I think it'll be around the same time as the PvP championship next year

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Oh, world, yeah.

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Yes, I think we'll see.

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I think it How they did Japan this past year is going to be how they're going to want to do it for Hawaii next year.

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So that's my gut feeling.

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Oh, that's a good one.

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I'm going to add that list.

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I'll give you credit for that one.

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That's fair.

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Well, either way, it looks like we're both in agreement that it's going to be on the west coast next year.

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Although Hawaii, I don't know if coast.

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It's more of an island.

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Yeah.

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It's off, it's off the west coast.

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I think

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Yeah.

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enough.

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Have you ever gone back to some of your old articles to see like, oh, I was completely on this or I completely missed this?

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I do.

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I wrote one.

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That was like a speculation article on when they're going to release certain Pokemon.

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I was way off with Kecleon, like way off.

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I put Kecleon, at the tour event and they released it way early.

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Not that bad, I think it was like a couple weeks, right?

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Yeah, it was close.

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They released it right before.

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they gave the Shiny at GO Tour Hoenn.

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Yes.

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Yes, they did.

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So, I wasn't too far off.

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There's sometimes that I'm just like, way off, and it's just funny to go back and read it and be like, yeah, I wasn't even close.

00:23:18.919 --> 00:23:23.199
Sometimes I nail it, though, and it's just, it's, sometimes people have been like, you knew.

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I'm like, I didn't.

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I actually didn't.

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It's like you're either a prophet or you're a bum, it's not really anything in between.

00:23:29.578 --> 00:23:30.818
Yeah, exactly, yeah.

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It's feast or famine when you make predictions, right?

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So.

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it's always fun to speculate.

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I love it because it gets people talking right and then people go into the comments and like, Oh, I think it's gonna be here I think they're gonna do it this way and it's fun to go back and look at people and be like, yo, You were wrong.

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You were wrong.

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Hey, you actually got it, right?

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So good for you it's super fun.

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And it's just one of those things that really gets people talking, especially when people are just like, if you think that's how they're going to do it, you're stupid and I'm just like, well, know, you're entitled to your opinion.

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I mean, we're just speculating.

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We don't know if we're going to be right.

00:24:02.172 --> 00:24:03.251
Yeah, exactly.

00:24:03.251 --> 00:24:03.372
Yeah.

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And sometimes it's funny when you put out speculation articles for Gohob, people were just like, you're just trying to throw us off the scent because you already know what's going to happen.

00:24:11.342 --> 00:24:12.317
And Like, we don't.

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do you really think that Niantic plans six months in advance and lets us know?

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Come on.

00:24:17.551 --> 00:24:19.701
They probably plan six months in advance, but they don't let y'all know.

00:24:20.003 --> 00:24:20.773
Oh, God, no.

00:24:20.834 --> 00:24:25.203
No, we're lucky if we get a couple of days in advance, knowledge of some stuff.

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Well, that's actually interesting.

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