Building a Story Arc

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Ask the podcast coach for June 29, 2024.

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Let's get ready to podcast.

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There it is. It's that music. That means it's Saturday morning. It's

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time for ask the podcast coach where you get your podcast questions

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answered live. I'm Dave Jackson from the school

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of podcasting.com, and joining me right over there is the

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1 and only Jim Cullison from the average guy dot tv. Jim,

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how's it going, buddy? Greetings, Dave. Happy Saturday morning to you. I realized

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I was not center of frame. I had to kinda I had to kinda get

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back into the get back into the center. Hey, 4th July

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or pre 4th July weekend for our American friends, have a very safe

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week. Keep all fingers and toes inside

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the boat at all times. And if you're in the UK, get out and vote

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because it's the best time to vote. It's the best time to vote ever. This

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is the best show called Ask the Podcast Coach. There will never be another better

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show. So Yeah. That's a We're not gonna

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be talking politics today, but I think I think all countries can

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kinda go, hey. Can you please not judge us based on our

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like, I do wanna take a I wanna take a page out of the UK.

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They have 6 weeks. That's it. Not a year. Yeah. Just,

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like, get it in, get it done. I'm like, oh, I like that idea.

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It'd be kinda nice. It would be nice if it was shorter. Yeah. So You

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know, it's not shorter though. You know, we we do have we have got

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a good long coffee pour. Right? We do. We also have

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somebody in the green room, which is great fun. Oh, nice. So hang tight. So

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coffee is always delicious. It says, hey, coming to the stage is the 1

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and only Doctor, and it should take us over to no. It's

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not. Okay. So How are you? Hey.

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I'm great. I wanted to, number

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1, give you kudos, Dave, for the advanced

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strategies podcast for podcast creators.

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That video that you did Cole for Lipson. Yeah. Watch

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yeah. I watched it all the way through. It was great. But you said

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something in it that really perked up my ears, and

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you kinda said it as, like, an off the cuff kind of

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passing kind of thing. It happened in

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minute marker 40 a minute 41. Okay.

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And you were talking about editing Yes. And

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taking out the boring stuff. Right. And what if

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your guest said something really, really great at the 20 minute

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mark and you're like a 25 minute podcast?

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Nothing stopping you from taking that and putting it up forward.

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And then you said, I wrote these words down, maybe make

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a story arc if you wanna get creative. So that's

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my question. What do you mean what is your definition of a

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story arc, and how do I create

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it? Got it. The it it's takes more work, of course. Anytime you

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say I wanna add this, you're going to add some time to that. A story

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arc, if you Google the phrase the hero's journey or just go watch the

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original Star Wars. So it's you have the reluctant

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hero, in this case Luke Skywalker, and then

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some sort of bad thing happens or he doesn't want to do something. In this

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case, he doesn't want to be a Jedi. And then he finds a mentor. Now

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typically, the mentor is you. If you're I knew I'd get the nerd out of

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you. I knew I knew I could bring that nerd right out of

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you. And then from there,

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the mentor then talks him into it. He doesn't think he's gonna do

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it. Oh my gosh. The world's gonna end. And then it

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doesn't because, you know, the hero comes through. And then there's at

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the end, there's the coming back home.

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And, you know, the he gets the girl, whatever the final thing is, and then

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you walk off. So it's this whole, like, oh, I don't think it's gonna work.

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John Lee Dumas did this. And I don't know if he did it on purpose.

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If you listen to entrepreneur on fire, it's like, why did you start?

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What was your biggest hurdle? And then what was your

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moment? So there's you know, that's where you get your mentor, and then you came

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through. And then so it's it's that whole, like, another great book

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is I hate this book, but it's called Out on the

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Wire. And the reason I hate it is because it's a comic book.

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I'm sorry. Adult. What do you call these things? It's,

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It's anime. It's it's a graphic novel. This talks about

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there is a person, and you're not gonna

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believe what happened, but this. And then they actually go,

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oh, but wait. There's more. And then this happened, and you're

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like, wait. What? And then sometimes they'll throw in a third 1. And then it's

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and here's how they overcame it or here's what the result was. And here's

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why you should care is the thing. And then if you listen to any NPR,

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they follow this like a textbook. So I basically got the book and

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boiled it down to, like that's that's the big takeaway of the book. You could

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probably Google that and find it. So how I do that is

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I use Hindenburg. And so if I if I

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can, I will there's a in fact, it's it's funny? I just

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had somebody say, how do you do a what do you call these things? I

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call it NPR brain oh, I'm drawing a total brain fart on this. But what

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narrative. It's a narrative style podcast. So now I'll be like,

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Doctor thought she was getting into the podcasting business and make

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lots of money. And then there's a clip of you going, you know, I just

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love to help people and I I've always loved podcasting and blah

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blah blah. But what she didn't know was that, you know, blah blah

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blah blah blah. And you're like, yeah. I tried to do this, and I couldn't

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find out. I'm knocking on all the doors I know of, you know, but then

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she met this 1 person who really needed her help. Yeah. I got this 1

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client. His name was so and so and blah blah blah. And it turned out

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he knew a ton of people that, you know, and so it's just the whole,

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oh, I don't think it's you're injecting. I wonder what happens

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next is the key to kind of a story arc. You're you're

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kind of that. Jim, am I missing anything off of It's a good think it's

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a good it's a good summary. You're just building tension. Right? And it Yeah. It's

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listen. Story arcs and clickbait are super close.

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Like, there's a fine the the there's a very fine line between the

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2 of those as far as, like because some I've heard I've

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heard this story arc built in a way that's

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disingenuous sometimes too, where you it's manufactured.

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You know, you're like, you'll never believe the the

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the beta. You'll never believe what happens next. That's kind of a derivative of

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a story arc. So I think you have to be careful that you don't you

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don't create something that's not there. Not there. Yeah. Right?

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Or make a bigger deal about it. You know? He

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he lit the match. See what happens next. Like, that kind of thing. So

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Yeah. Yeah. IIII think that's a good explanation. Just just an

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example of just a narrative style is episode

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873 of The School of Podcasting where I interviewed Deidre Chen

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from CapShow, And we,

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I basically just took it. And how I do that the last time I forget

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the last person I did this with. But it's weird because I have separate tracks.

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So I have my track. And then I have the guest track. And I

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last time I did this, I just took the guest track. So I don't even

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know what the question was that I asked, and I listened to the answer.

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And then I go, does that deliver value to my audience? Yes. It does.

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Good. Okay. Over here. And then I'll rename it. This was them talking. Then

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I'll go to the next answer. Okay. Does this deliver value to my audience? No.

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They're kind of rambling, and I don't know what they're talking about. Okay. You're not

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going in. And I just go to each answer, and then I rename them. And

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I look at it and go, okay. How can I group these

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so that they kind of make sense that there's a little bit of momentum?

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Just anything to make it flow. So and then it's and then there's some

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types when I'm like, oh, that's a good answer. It doesn't really fit

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in. And to me, being the musician, I'm like, that's where you have a

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bunch of hard rock songs, and you got this 1 reggae song

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that's fun and makes you wanna it doesn't fit with the rest of it, and,

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you know, you give that to as a bonus to somebody or whatever. But,

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does that kinda help? It does. It does. Thanks for coming on,

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dear. Great to meet you. Thanks for coming on. The

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choice of technology. The here's the 1 cool thing Well, let and let

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and let me just say, just podcasters, just do do yourself a

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favor. Make sure your default sound settings, whether in PC or

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Mac, are are always set to your mic. Because oftentimes, the software

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will just pick up whatever's default. Yeah. And for in in a lot of

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cases, this is probably the first time Doctor was coming in or To Ecamm,

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I guess. Yeah. Right. And so it'll just pick up it we think the

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computer is being feisty. Like, why can't it pick the right thing?

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Well, you told it or you defaulted to it of of a

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default mic at some point in in some cases. So just make sure

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both Windows and Mac, I think, have default settings. Windows for sure, I know that.

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Make sure your default microphone go into the settings is set to whatever

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microphone you use on a regular basis. This gets to be a problem if you're

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switching microphones all the time for whatever reason. It'll it'll get

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confused. So, anyways, there's your there's get your nerd on about default settings

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for mic. Yeah. No. And and no no shade at all

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at Doctor. I mean, obviously, she's been around forever. In fact, she she just

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apparently, someone is is has a like, I have the

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school of podcasting where I help you podcast. Somebody has

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a, like, podcast coach school. It's I think it's

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Adam from Podcast Business School. Because I saw on Facebook, she's like, hey. I passed.

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I'm now a I I'm now a certified podcast coach. And I was

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like, is that a thing? Because I'm not certified. Like,

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I'm you know? So Well, we're certifiable. Well, that's

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it. There's that. Yeah. There's that. But but Doctor, thanks for

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coming in. And Yeah. No worries, Doctor, on the microphone. No worries on it. It

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happens to I it happens to me all the time. In fact, there's never been

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a more frustrating moment than when I've actually recorded a

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podcast at work. And somehow, Windows does some weird

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things. This is where Windows is against you sometimes. It'll set that

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default microphone on its own for some

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reason. Something like, if you unplug it and then plug it back in, it'll get

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confused and reset the default to something else. And then it ends up going

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to the microphone. And it's so frustrating when I have hosts guest

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hosts that don't tell me I'm on the wrong microphone. Yeah. I've I've done a

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whole podcast off the webcam, and you're like, why didn't you say

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something? Like, I didn't know. Like, how can you not hear how

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bad that was? So that's frustrating too. So I've gotten kind of in the

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habit and just checking every time. It's just kinda before, you know, before we

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get started. I'm okay. Did it pick up the right microphone? I hope it did.

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I know with you, Dave, you'll know for sure. You'll be like, ah, stop.

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Well, as soon as she started talking, I was like, she's got a q 2

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u this far from her mouth. I'm like, that's not the q2u. And it was

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okay. Like, I was like, that's, you know, no big deal. Yeah. Well, my

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thing that I'm trying to figure out how to do on my Mac is it

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keeps picking up my earbuds. Yes. And I'll be like,

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I don't want to use my earbuds. I use those with my

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phone, and I have to go in because I'll be listening on my phone. And

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all of a sudden, my earbuds just go dead. And I'm like, what's I'm like,

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oh, it's they're connected to my Mac. I'm like, I don't want to connect to

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Yeah. The Mac. Todd Todd the Todd the Gator says sometimes a Windows update

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will change your default input as well, and that is true. That's what happened with

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my Mac. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Sometimes an update will reset

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some things or so it's just good

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practice. It's a good habit. Just check it from you know, before you go

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on, just do a dive in fact, I did a double check just a few

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I wasn't on my mic, because you can tell the difference between the 2, but

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it's good to check. Yeah. Gary says I had a guest who had a loose

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cable. I was last night, I rewired the sound system in

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my church, which was tons of fun, if I do say so myself.

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cardboard cut. I had to I had to I was opening up a new

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keyboard and had to get the the thing and just was like and I

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was like, ow. And I was like, didn't even think about it. Like, I looked

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down later. I'm bleeding all over my head, and I'm like, it Cool. Cool.

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The blood all over everything. Yeah. But the the fun thing was I

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could not get the audio. I'm testing this because we do our church on Zoom

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and which for the record sounds horrendous. If you do any music on

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Zoom, even if you say I'm a musician, forget it. It just

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completely squelches it out. But I could not get the audio

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from the soundboard into the Zoom meeting. I'm like, it's going to the Mac and

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blah blah blah. And I went over and just jiggle the cable. And I was

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like, there you go. When in doubt, jiggle the cable. But she mentioned I

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did basically it's it's something I've done on the School of Podcasting. It's like everything

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I know about interviews. So things like, number 1,

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your podcast is your home. And if your guest comes in I had some people

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push back on that. I said, look. Unless it's a celebrity that you can only

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get this way, if it's somebody like, if it's an author

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and they don't have they're gonna use the built in laptop mic, I'm like, no.

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Not in my house. Sorry. Go get a microphone. And they're like, I don't know

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if I feel comfortable. Ask them to go buy a microphone and go. If they're

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going on a publicity tour, you know, go get a

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microphone. Come on. Give me a break. But the fun part was

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I found out they use Restream, and I found

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out that it's kinda cool. You have scenes kinda like we have scenes

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here in Ecamm. They have scenes in Restream,

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and my solo stream was here. And

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then my other I'm off center. Wait. I need to go here. And then the

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1 with my slides was here. So I found out, oh, I could just go

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up and down. And then once I got to the the scene with my slides,

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I could use the up down arrow key or the left right keys. So

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I'm like, cool. This is easy. I don't have to worry about clicking the mouse

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and this and that. So I'm just cruising along. Everything's fine. And all of a

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sudden, I went to go back up to where I'm the solo guy and I

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accidentally hit up twice. Well, the scene above me was

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a video and it start which we played at the very beginning of it. So

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all of a sudden, the middle days back to the opening video and I'm hitting

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down, down, down, and nothing. It's like, nope. Going to play this video first before

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we move. And I'm like so I just went completely transparent. I went

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to our video guy at Lipson. It's Brian. I'm like, Brian, if you know a

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way to get that to stop, I'll be happy. And I just went back to

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it. And finally, I'm on my solo page and my great. I go, let's see

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if we can get slide 19 to show up. And I just clicked on right.

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And there it was. And even the chat room's like, yes, slide 19.

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And so my point is that if that had

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happened because I get when I get done with Libsyn webinar, I am

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drenched in sweat. I don't know why it's somehow being the voice of

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Libsyn for an hour is a little more stressful. And if that had

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happened, you know, 5 years ago, I probably would have cried

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and ran away. So it's like but it's like, oh,

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alright. Well, this is happening. Okay. We'll do this and do that. So

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it's, you know, you just and and that's just shame on me. I should

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have prob because I figured that out, like, 15 minutes before

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we went. And I I did a little, like, oh, just up, down, up, down

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with blah, blah, blah. And it just, you know, I fat fingered it, and that's

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what happened. So, it is what it is. Jody says

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make make sure to check your levels too. Yeah. Windows

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has a habit of changing my levels from what I have it set to, you

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know, the whole a 100% and have it set to oh, I see a 100%.

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And then, ugh, I've gotten the habit of checking my sound. Yeah.

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I know for a while, back in the days of Skype, and now

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actually with Zoom, that whole automatically set the level

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thing, Skype was horrible for that. Because what would happen

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is when you weren't talking, it would be listening and going, oh, I don't hear

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Dave. And so it would turn the volume all the way up, the input volume.

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And all of a sudden, it sound like you're at the at the ocean. It's

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like and then the minute you

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talked, you're like, well, I think it'd be like and it was like

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this was it like Yeah. Okay. You'd come in at

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a 1, 000 decibels too. I mean, you'd come in and blown

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out and then you you because and the better your mic or, you know,

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especially with a condenser mic where, you know, the spy camera mics where you can

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hear all the way across the room, those were particularly

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bad. And so if you didn't if you weren't careful, yeah, it was it

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was it was kind of a mess. You know, you were talking about Zoom and

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and not using that for for church stuff. We we've been using

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Zoom at work, and we try to play videos through it. And

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there there isn't just a there's there is no worse experience

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on Zoom than trying to play videos.

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Like, why why doesn't Zoom they've been around

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long enough. On StreamYard as an example, you wanna play videos. I

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think you can use this way too. You upload the video to their

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servers, and then it plays from there as opposed to it trying to play

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from somebody's desktop. And, yes, we've gotten better with

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Bandwidth and some of those kinds of things, but it's such a terrible experience

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on Zoom. And you just wanna, you just wanna be like, Zoom, have you

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not figured out And maybe they have, and we don't we're not doing it

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right. But, you know, you're like, have you not figured out? People wanna play videos

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on these things. Make it e make it a better experience to

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do that. They're just terrible. Well, that's where their goal is

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to make sure that I can hear you. You know, it was made for meetings,

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you know. For sure. Yeah. For sure. It does a great job of that. That's

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where if you compared it to, you know, the good old days of

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of Skype and all that, it was like, oh, this is great. And it was

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easier to connect. You didn't have to install, any software. That was

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the big thing back in the day. So, yeah, Jody says I have 2 mics,

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1 inside my booth and 1 outside my booth on my podcast. And

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it's frustrating when Windows decides Yeah. It knows what I need.

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It doesn't matter what my default is set to. So that's always fun.

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Yeah. Yeah. Narrative style. Yeah. Rich brings up something. If you go to

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your podcast website right now, there's only 1 interview over there,

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and it's with Greg, and he's a web designer as

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well. And I did that narrative. I love narrative style.

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It just takes more time. And so if I have an

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interview where I'm not editing out anything, and everything is just the way I'm like,

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ah, here's just the interview. But what was funny is I'm getting ready this

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weekend. I'll be creating the first episode of

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Podcast Hot Seat, formerly known as Podcast Rodeo Show. And this is

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different. I'm bringing the people on. And so I brought on Stephanie

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Graham. And at the end, I said, well, let's put me on the hot seat

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because she's part of that deal is you get a month at The School of

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Podcasting. Is there anything I can change at The School of Podcasting? She's like, no.

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Not really. She goes, but the 1 thing I I wish I could figure out

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is, like, what's it like to be like, what's your day

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like? And that whole 9 yards. And she she goes, like, I'd love to

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know how to do a narrative style podcast. So I'm going to take

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her episode. This is gonna get very meta of

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podcast hot seat. Do it narrative style and make

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a video for the school of podcasting on how I did it, which is just

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what I basically said. You you figure out how many pieces you got and

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then you figure out what story you want to tell and where you can kind

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of throw in some I wonder what happens next. And we'll go that route. I'll

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give you a little preview. If you wanna know if you're

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and I I'm waiting for her to get back to me on this, but

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I am listening to her opening music. And do you remember

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the old Batman show with yeah. They had this

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weird kind of Yeah.

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Between in between the breaks or in between the segments. Yeah. Yeah. So there's

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this cool kind of hip hop vibe.

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And I'm like, I'm pretty sure that's that's like and it

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sounded great. And I was like Oh, like a remix. Yeah.

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So I grabbed Shazam before she came in,

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and, you know, there's, like, a whatever, 3 seconds of music. And Shazam was,

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like, oh, that's insert rapper's name that I can't remember

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here featuring so and so. And I just said, hey.

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Just so you know and she actually said I bought it from this company that

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said I have the license to it. And I go, well, go back and check

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your license because if it's for radio,

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podcasting and radio, really different because a podcast is a

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download and you get into really boring things like mechanical

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rights and blah blah blah. And I said, so what was cool

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is I have a tool, and I know everybody's gonna go, what's it

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called? Let me fire Pinnenberg in the background here. And

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it's a noise reduction tool. And I was able to take out

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the music and still hear her. And I was like,

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that's pretty crazy. Wow. That's cool. It is called

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it's from WAVES. It is called ClarityVX.

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And I saw the they have a thing right now where most of their plug

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ins are $29. And the mhmm.

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And the demo of it is somebody's on a New York street. So you got

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cars whizzing by and the whole 9 yards, and you just watch the

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guy turn the dial, and they totally dialed out the the noise. So

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it's not so much for, like, hiss, but more for just

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isolating the the vocal. And I was doing something and was

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like, Let me see if I have a I do not. I

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thought I had a I know if you go to support the show dot com,

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and I don't know if it's waves or WAVE, probably

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WAVES. That's more or less probably my affiliate link for that.

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And I'm making a mess in the chat room. Excellent. Here's a fun thing.

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We've talked about this before. Sometimes, how do you know

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I've got a couple things here on, like, finding ideas. And so this

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1 is from Michael Hyatt, who I'm a huge fan of. And he this is

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on Facebook yesterday. He says, the digital planner. Michael

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is all about planning and making the best year

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ever and really just goal setting, that kind of

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stuff. And so he says, the digital planner, it's not happen

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happening. We decided to pull the plug on this project. Frankly, we only

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had about 3 to 5 people submit feedback in Q1, which we

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took as a proxy for broader market feedback. As a

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result, we just don't feel the opportunity is big enough to justify the effort,

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which is sad because had I known that, I would've Micah would love a digital

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planner. But he says in another post, I commented that I was going to try

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to have the q 3 planner ready tomorrow. Unfortunately, well, that's not

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gonna happen, but we don't wanna leave you hanging. So if you legitimately

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didn't order a paper planner because you were waiting on the digital 1.

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See, that's cool because he's trusting people here. Like, hey, if you were

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gonna buy this but you didn't, please private message me. We'll send you a

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planner a paper planner for free. Just tell me which 1 you want. We'll

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also expedite shipping at our expense. So it's kind of a cool way when

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you and he didn't really make a mistake. He thought

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his audience wanted this, and he created something.

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He asked for feedback, and that's where I'm like, I'm on his email list. So

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somehow, I missed him asking for feedback because I because I don't

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like paper planners because I, you know, I want something I can have on my

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phone. And so but that's something

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where I just thought it was interesting where he's like, okay. I'm asking

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for feedback. I'm not getting any. That kind of is a

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red flag in itself that, okay. If I can't get any feedback on

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something, you know, we're just gonna pull the plug on it. So sometimes, you

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know, you try something and it works. What I would

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love to know is how long he's been working on that. I

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was trying to find that out because it's 1 thing to pull the plug after

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a week. Okay. That's not enough time for people to get caught up or whatever.

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But I was like I just it's like sometimes it doesn't work and, you know,

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so it I just thought it was interesting. Yeah. It's yeah.

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That's a tough call. Like, do you I mean, there's a lot of things you

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could do there. You could release it, and and it can

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have a very short life span. That's kind of the Google model. They're gonna try.

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They're gonna release it. They're gonna let it be out there. Then they're not afraid

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to kill it after it's been released. You in in this

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in and maybe in this case with Michael, that that, you know, you think,

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boy, this isn't really this didn't really turn out like we thought it would, and

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it's gonna generate a ton of support tickets. Let's kill it before it gets

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there just because we have other things in the pipeline and we we we know

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we can do differently. I think, listen, I think our podcasts

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are this way sometimes too, where, yeah,

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coach days is not getting feedback mostly means you're living in 2024.

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Oh, unless you're on YouTube. The I I think

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well, but not us. Yeah. But not us. Last

431
00:26:20,290 --> 00:26:23,835
week, We even asked for it explicitly in the

432
00:26:23,835 --> 00:26:27,675
video, and then I left a comment on the video saying what

433
00:26:27,675 --> 00:26:31,270
no comments, and we still got no comments. So whatever. Whatever YouTube.

434
00:26:31,330 --> 00:26:34,850
What? See, I'm telling you, it's it's it's us, not them.

435
00:26:36,690 --> 00:26:40,505
So with with podcasting, I think sometimes we think we

436
00:26:40,505 --> 00:26:43,245
should release just everything we've recorded.

437
00:26:43,945 --> 00:26:47,440
And listen, most of the time, that's true, but I think there's some

438
00:26:47,440 --> 00:26:51,200
moments and I've listen. Physician heal thyself. I'm

439
00:26:51,200 --> 00:26:55,025
I'm talking to myself at this point. There are times we record

440
00:26:55,025 --> 00:26:58,705
things that should never see the light of day. And before

441
00:26:58,705 --> 00:27:02,385
they ever go public, you should just absolutely kill them. And I

442
00:27:02,385 --> 00:27:06,120
know, you know, yeah, maybe you had a guest on and you're afraid you're

443
00:27:06,120 --> 00:27:09,720
going to be embarrassed because you gotta tell them what they did didn't

444
00:27:09,720 --> 00:27:13,075
work. You know, some of those kinds of things. But just kill it

445
00:27:13,075 --> 00:27:16,675
before get mercy. Have a have a have a mercy

446
00:27:16,675 --> 00:27:20,355
killing and and don't release it. So that it's smart in some

447
00:27:20,355 --> 00:27:23,740
cases. Now the trick is knowing when to and when not to. That's the hard

448
00:27:23,740 --> 00:27:27,500
part. Like, yeah, it's not, it's not always an easy decision. You

449
00:27:27,500 --> 00:27:30,695
don't always know And you never know if it was the right 1 or if

450
00:27:30,695 --> 00:27:34,455
it was the wrong 1, even in the future sometimes. But but

451
00:27:34,455 --> 00:27:38,300
there certainly, some there are times when you get to the end of

452
00:27:38,300 --> 00:27:41,980
a cycle, and you're, like, yeah. I shouldn't have I shouldn't have

453
00:27:41,980 --> 00:27:45,784
done this. I should not have released this. Right? I had an

454
00:27:45,784 --> 00:27:49,625
episode of the logical weight loss when I was doing that show. And I

455
00:27:49,625 --> 00:27:53,370
remember going kinda like, should I click publish

456
00:27:53,370 --> 00:27:57,070
on this? And it was a woman that had an air conditioner

457
00:27:57,130 --> 00:28:00,810
in the background. And I even I said, let's be quiet for 10

458
00:28:00,810 --> 00:28:04,155
seconds so I can get a good sample of the noise and I'll remove and

459
00:28:04,155 --> 00:28:07,915
it just sounded horrible. And I was like, you know, like,

460
00:28:07,915 --> 00:28:11,690
well, it's listenable, barely. And I put it out and woke up to 3

461
00:28:11,690 --> 00:28:15,370
emails going, what was that? You know, and I was like, sorry. You're like, you

462
00:28:15,370 --> 00:28:19,185
sound like a tin can. Yeah. Danny says, I've been enjoying these zombie

463
00:28:19,185 --> 00:28:22,865
Google podcast updates from James Cridland. Yeah. So they announced, you

464
00:28:22,865 --> 00:28:26,545
know, Google podcast is going away and it's going away globally on this

465
00:28:26,545 --> 00:28:30,100
date. And then and Google Podcasts Manager, it's

466
00:28:30,100 --> 00:28:33,860
going away. And then it kinda didn't. And then it did. And

467
00:28:33,860 --> 00:28:37,535
now it's back. And it's like, yeah. So this whole I was like,

468
00:28:37,535 --> 00:28:41,055
well, more great examples of how you can trust everything from

469
00:28:41,055 --> 00:28:44,870
Google. I was just like, come on, boys. Is this a case where you

470
00:28:44,870 --> 00:28:48,470
already filed you already fired the Google team, and

471
00:28:48,470 --> 00:28:52,065
nobody else had to go in and kill it? Yeah. Yeah. That

472
00:28:52,065 --> 00:28:55,905
makes that makes sense. Or they've moved on jet most

473
00:28:55,905 --> 00:28:59,505
likely, they moved on to other things. Oftentimes, they'll redeploy those

474
00:28:59,505 --> 00:29:03,350
folks. But Yeah. Yeah. No. You're right. You kinda you gotta kinda wonder.

475
00:29:03,730 --> 00:29:06,610
I don't know if I have this 1. No. Not really. I'll just read this

476
00:29:06,610 --> 00:29:10,205
1. This is from our over at Reddit. She says, Hello,

477
00:29:10,345 --> 00:29:14,184
everyone. Me, United States and my buddy from the UK are starting

478
00:29:14,184 --> 00:29:17,945
a podcast. And she says he's now full time in the

479
00:29:17,945 --> 00:29:21,380
States. So it's go time. This has been on my mind for

480
00:29:21,380 --> 00:29:25,220
years, whether solo or with a co host. I'm at

481
00:29:25,220 --> 00:29:29,015
the same spot I was before. I'm ready to record. I'm ready

482
00:29:29,015 --> 00:29:32,855
to market and ready to make people laugh. My problem is, as she

483
00:29:32,855 --> 00:29:36,179
has the title here, I'm still struggling to come up with a topic. So her

484
00:29:36,179 --> 00:29:39,779
title is struggling to come up with topics or single topic to

485
00:29:39,779 --> 00:29:43,495
focus on. She goes, whether it's broad or not, I can't seem to

486
00:29:43,495 --> 00:29:47,335
find something I'm confident in recording. I'd rather I'm rather

487
00:29:47,335 --> 00:29:51,169
knowledgeable in a variety of topics, but nothing is sticking. I've been thinking

488
00:29:51,169 --> 00:29:55,009
about using our social media to reach out to run polls and come up 1

489
00:29:55,169 --> 00:29:58,725
with 1 topic or just our first topic. How do you

490
00:29:58,725 --> 00:30:02,325
decide what works? And so to

491
00:30:02,325 --> 00:30:05,925
me, anytime I hear this, I'm like, don't

492
00:30:05,925 --> 00:30:09,720
press record yet. Like, figure out because to me,

493
00:30:10,740 --> 00:30:14,360
most of the podcasters that are really, like, having fun

494
00:30:14,900 --> 00:30:18,725
or they're getting past 7 they really wanna talk about

495
00:30:18,725 --> 00:30:22,485
this subject. And they, like, no. I wanna help people with this, or I

496
00:30:22,485 --> 00:30:25,590
just I love to just tell stories or whatever it is.

497
00:30:26,150 --> 00:30:29,289
And I I said, come up with 10 topics

498
00:30:29,750 --> 00:30:33,370
for whatever your first 10 episodes are, and then

499
00:30:34,075 --> 00:30:37,914
go in and, basically, you know,

500
00:30:37,914 --> 00:30:41,690
pick 1 and go with it. And I said, even do this. Record it

501
00:30:41,690 --> 00:30:45,370
on your phone. Bring up voice recorder and pretend you're doing

502
00:30:45,370 --> 00:30:49,005
it. And when you're done, delete it. Like,

503
00:30:49,005 --> 00:30:52,445
just just do it. And I I don't know if this is a

504
00:30:52,445 --> 00:30:55,805
case because what happens a lot in some

505
00:30:55,805 --> 00:30:59,460
cases is you think about the

506
00:30:59,460 --> 00:31:03,140
audience. I'm going to put this podcast out to the oh, I need

507
00:31:03,140 --> 00:31:06,855
reverb. And, you know, you don't you don't have 1 yet, And

508
00:31:06,855 --> 00:31:10,695
so don't don't worry about it. And in the past, I

509
00:31:10,695 --> 00:31:14,280
would have said, don't start at all. And now

510
00:31:14,280 --> 00:31:17,880
I say, hey, maybe this is your your

511
00:31:17,880 --> 00:31:21,640
training wheels. Like, start a podcast that you probably aren't gonna be doing

512
00:31:21,640 --> 00:31:24,925
in 6 months because you'd be like, oh, I don't wanna talk about this. And

513
00:31:24,925 --> 00:31:28,365
then start your real 1. I do something. But I just I don't know. When

514
00:31:28,365 --> 00:31:32,040
you hear this kind of stuff, Jim, what do you think? Yeah. Same

515
00:31:32,420 --> 00:31:35,860
same same old what you're saying. Record some things, put it out

516
00:31:35,860 --> 00:31:39,535
there, listen to it, edit it, then throw it away. Yeah.

517
00:31:39,535 --> 00:31:43,135
Like, the the the the hardest part I I we just we're

518
00:31:43,135 --> 00:31:46,735
talking about this. Like, the hardest part for most podcasters is deleting

519
00:31:46,735 --> 00:31:50,300
things. And everything you make

520
00:31:50,440 --> 00:31:54,280
is not good. Right? So delete stuff. You gotta get good at

521
00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:58,095
it. You gotta kinda realize, like, yeah, that's garbage. I should cut

522
00:31:58,095 --> 00:32:01,695
that part out. We shouldn't do those kinds of things. That's and

523
00:32:01,695 --> 00:32:05,259
so you you just get get in there, get some stuff recorded, get some

524
00:32:05,259 --> 00:32:09,100
feedback. We're so sometimes, we so are focused on

525
00:32:09,100 --> 00:32:12,715
starting. And I wanna just say you need to

526
00:32:12,715 --> 00:32:16,495
practice. Like, NFL players, any any professional

527
00:32:16,555 --> 00:32:19,935
sports player have been practicing for for

528
00:32:20,540 --> 00:32:23,900
years before they're they're any good at what they

529
00:32:23,900 --> 00:32:27,500
do. And and so just make sure you're getting some practice in there and let

530
00:32:27,580 --> 00:32:31,325
and be okay with that. It doesn't have to Your first thing

531
00:32:31,325 --> 00:32:35,085
is gonna be terrible. They're awful. Yeah. So just record

532
00:32:35,085 --> 00:32:37,540
them, get them out of the way, and then throw them away. Yeah. Because you're

533
00:32:37,540 --> 00:32:40,940
not ever gonna wanna listen to them again. No. Oh, well, that's

534
00:32:41,060 --> 00:32:44,500
Whatever. I I might in the future. Somebody asked

535
00:32:44,500 --> 00:32:48,205
me, about, you know they were like,

536
00:32:48,205 --> 00:32:51,725
oh, your background looks cool. And I was like, I didn't start this way. I

537
00:32:51,725 --> 00:32:55,549
go, you are seeing 19 years of tweaking. I go, so and I

538
00:32:55,549 --> 00:32:59,230
thought about I just don't know how, again,

539
00:32:59,230 --> 00:33:02,830
looking my audience like, oh, here. I I'm gonna tell you the story of

540
00:33:02,830 --> 00:33:06,674
me. And then I'm like, boring. Like, what's in it? I I have

541
00:33:06,674 --> 00:33:10,035
to figure out what are the Maybe. Maybe not. Yeah. Well, that's that's me. I'm

542
00:33:10,035 --> 00:33:13,850
like, I gotta figure out what's what's the takeaway, you know, that type of thing.

543
00:33:13,850 --> 00:33:17,610
Right. So Yeah. And and you your your takeaway may be just for a few

544
00:33:17,610 --> 00:33:21,135
people. I mean, again, the oftentimes the work that you

545
00:33:21,135 --> 00:33:24,735
do, you don't know. You don't know how it's it's gonna be till you get

546
00:33:24,735 --> 00:33:28,575
out there. So and Ken Ken Blanchard says, you know, start ugly. Yeah. I mean,

547
00:33:28,575 --> 00:33:32,370
well, we all do. That's just that's just we we

548
00:33:32,370 --> 00:33:36,130
get better the longer we go. We get more practice. We figure

549
00:33:36,130 --> 00:33:39,865
some things out. We get comfortable with some stuff. You know, it's like doing voice

550
00:33:39,865 --> 00:33:43,304
voice over work, and Jody's out in chat. She she can probably attest to

551
00:33:43,304 --> 00:33:46,850
this. Voice over work, I think we just think you turn a

552
00:33:46,850 --> 00:33:50,690
mic on and start talking. And, yeah, that's great. No. No. There's actually

553
00:33:50,690 --> 00:33:53,830
a lot of talent and skill and practice and

554
00:33:54,635 --> 00:33:58,315
education that goes along with doing voiceovers. Yes. I'm a podcaster. I

555
00:33:58,315 --> 00:34:02,155
tried doing voice over voice over, there we go, for Gal for Gal

556
00:34:02,155 --> 00:34:05,930
back in the day. I'm just I need more practice. And just because

557
00:34:05,930 --> 00:34:09,610
you're a podcaster doesn't mean you're a voice over artist. Like, that

558
00:34:09,610 --> 00:34:13,434
takes a different skill. So anyways, get in there, Get

559
00:34:13,434 --> 00:34:16,895
some practice. Practice some stuff. It's just like if you're gonna do a host

560
00:34:17,355 --> 00:34:20,895
read, you should probably read that at least 25 times

561
00:34:21,250 --> 00:34:24,870
before you read it for real. Like, practice

562
00:34:24,929 --> 00:34:28,370
the thing. Get get read it a couple different

563
00:34:28,370 --> 00:34:32,005
ways. Get comfortable with it. Get it read it in front of some people,

564
00:34:32,465 --> 00:34:36,065
and get some feedback from them. It's just it's 1 of those the

565
00:34:36,065 --> 00:34:39,600
best read host ads that I've ever read are ones

566
00:34:39,600 --> 00:34:42,960
that that they've done a lot. The host has done it a lot of times,

567
00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:45,945
so they're good at. Well, think about what we do in the very beginning of

568
00:34:45,945 --> 00:34:49,485
the show. You you've got Mark's ad

569
00:34:49,625 --> 00:34:53,420
down. Right? And so there isn't you're not stumbling, trying

570
00:34:53,420 --> 00:34:56,699
to figure out, like, okay, what am I gonna say next? You know what you're

571
00:34:56,699 --> 00:35:00,265
gonna say. That's because you said it through 200

572
00:35:00,505 --> 00:35:04,185
I don't know how long Mark's been advertising here, but at least 200 times

573
00:35:04,185 --> 00:35:08,025
probably. Right? Now imagine if you put that

574
00:35:08,025 --> 00:35:11,560
work into the ad before

575
00:35:12,100 --> 00:35:15,720
the first time you read it recorded. I mean,

576
00:35:15,955 --> 00:35:19,155
think about how good it is today. I think if you went back and listened

577
00:35:19,155 --> 00:35:22,455
to the first time you did the ad for Mark Oh, man.

578
00:35:23,480 --> 00:35:27,160
Like, it was it it we got it done. It was just kinda

579
00:35:27,160 --> 00:35:30,859
average. Right? I mean, it was just like, oh, okay. Well, that's that's okay.

580
00:35:31,035 --> 00:35:33,855
You got better as you went. So imagine if you practice

581
00:35:34,635 --> 00:35:38,255
before you record for the first time how much better you could be. So

582
00:35:38,970 --> 00:35:42,730
so don't don't stop stop doing things the first

583
00:35:42,730 --> 00:35:46,110
time live or stop doing things. Right? Don't

584
00:35:48,635 --> 00:35:51,455
practice. Some good comments here from the chat.

585
00:35:52,315 --> 00:35:55,535
Chris says no 1 goes to the gym once and comes back shredded.

586
00:35:56,110 --> 00:35:59,790
Yeah. Well, I mean, I do, and you do. But nobody else does. Nobody

587
00:35:59,790 --> 00:36:03,525
else. Craig from Inglia's podcast. It doesn't matter how you start. Nobody's

588
00:36:03,525 --> 00:36:07,165
going to be listening. Yeah. That's that's always the fun thing is when you

589
00:36:07,165 --> 00:36:11,010
watch people go from nobody's gonna listen, and then they

590
00:36:11,010 --> 00:36:14,610
freak out. And I'm like, what's the problem? They're like, I got a 100 downloads.

591
00:36:14,610 --> 00:36:17,170
And I'm like, yeah. They're like, we have some people. I gotta watch what I

592
00:36:17,170 --> 00:36:20,655
say now. So Danny says it took me 7 years to get to a place

593
00:36:20,655 --> 00:36:24,495
where I'm happy with the recording space and the sound. We do

594
00:36:24,495 --> 00:36:27,940
need to help new podcasters learn to ignore anyone telling them they need a

595
00:36:27,940 --> 00:36:31,619
SM7B when starting. Yeah. That's Samsung

596
00:36:31,619 --> 00:36:35,320
Q2U. Anything. But if you're gonna use a blue Yate, just use it right.

597
00:36:35,515 --> 00:36:39,115
And then Danny had another comment in here. I hate to hear this. Oh, so

598
00:36:39,115 --> 00:36:42,895
crappy. He's we were supposed to he's got a new podcast coming

599
00:36:42,955 --> 00:36:46,520
out called I think it's 5 random questions. I've got it on my

600
00:36:46,520 --> 00:36:50,119
calendar. But, basically, he has to reschedule. His his

601
00:36:50,119 --> 00:36:53,885
basement flooded. And I did that once in

602
00:36:53,885 --> 00:36:56,605
my back in the day when I had a house. Well, I have a house

603
00:36:56,605 --> 00:37:00,365
now. But, anyway, I had all my musical equipment in the

604
00:37:00,365 --> 00:37:03,930
basement, and our hot water heater

605
00:37:04,470 --> 00:37:08,150
broke. Right? And so just 30 gallons or whatever it is, is now all

606
00:37:08,150 --> 00:37:11,715
over the basement floor. And my little guitar pedals are

607
00:37:11,715 --> 00:37:15,475
underwater. And my wife tells me,

608
00:37:15,475 --> 00:37:19,170
I look at the steps, and I'm halfway down the steps looking at the

609
00:37:19,170 --> 00:37:22,710
pool that is now my basement floor and seeing things underwater,

610
00:37:23,010 --> 00:37:26,474
and I jump off the steps. And as I'm in midair, I'm

611
00:37:26,474 --> 00:37:29,994
like, oh, there's still electrical things plugged into

612
00:37:29,994 --> 00:37:33,460
this. I wonder if I'm going to get electrocuted when I land. And there's not

613
00:37:33,460 --> 00:37:36,340
much you can do when you're in the air. Luckily, that was not the case.

614
00:37:36,340 --> 00:37:40,100
But flooded basements are definitely no fun. So I'm sorry to hear that, buddy.

615
00:37:40,100 --> 00:37:42,625
That sucks. Ever had a flood basement, Jim?

616
00:37:43,485 --> 00:37:47,325
Minor. Nothing we ever had to repair. We we got a drain in the

617
00:37:47,325 --> 00:37:50,920
middle of the floor and sometimes, And it's not far from my podcasting

618
00:37:50,980 --> 00:37:54,819
area, so I have to make sure that we don't we don't do that.

619
00:37:54,819 --> 00:37:58,119
But nope. Nope. Danny, sorry to hear that you do. It's a mess

620
00:37:58,725 --> 00:38:02,405
when you do. Our friends up north got a bunch of water that's now coming

621
00:38:02,405 --> 00:38:06,165
our way. Things are flooding on on the Missouri here. By the

622
00:38:06,165 --> 00:38:09,790
way, just as a side note, this week, we did a company a whole

623
00:38:09,790 --> 00:38:13,550
company kinda update. Once a month we all get together, everybody jumps

624
00:38:13,550 --> 00:38:15,810
on Zoom. And and our

625
00:38:17,234 --> 00:38:20,994
CHRO did this flood update. We have a little deck that's kinda built

626
00:38:20,994 --> 00:38:24,650
over the Missouri. So he stood on the he stood on the deck and had

627
00:38:24,650 --> 00:38:28,170
the Audio Technica, the ones I had bought, I had had the

628
00:38:28,170 --> 00:38:31,930
company buy those Audio Technica BPS ones, you know Oh, nice.

629
00:38:31,930 --> 00:38:35,105
Yeah. Over the head. And we then we used the Focusrite

630
00:38:35,725 --> 00:38:38,685
solos. That's not what they're called, but let's just well, you guys know what I

631
00:38:38,685 --> 00:38:42,270
mean with the solos. Right? 1 1 input goes in. And he

632
00:38:42,270 --> 00:38:46,030
was standing on the deck with the headset out doing a

633
00:38:46,030 --> 00:38:49,630
live update on how the river is doing with the headset on. And everybody was,

634
00:38:49,630 --> 00:38:53,424
like, that's awesome. Right? And and so I was

635
00:38:53,424 --> 00:38:57,045
like, you're welcome. You're welcome for

636
00:38:57,105 --> 00:39:00,440
for that getting all you know? Yeah. I I didn't it didn't happen directly,

637
00:39:01,000 --> 00:39:04,680
giving everybody advice. Like, what do we need on these things? And so having

638
00:39:04,680 --> 00:39:08,520
the right it's it's it's having the right equipment when it when you do

639
00:39:09,505 --> 00:39:13,265
and and this is again, physician heal myself. I need to remember this. Having

640
00:39:13,265 --> 00:39:16,965
the right equipment, not the cheapest, the right equipment

641
00:39:17,530 --> 00:39:21,130
is when it does work, it it's amazing. You know? And you're, like,

642
00:39:21,130 --> 00:39:24,890
that's super cool. So everybody was, like, well, you should start doing the weather. And,

643
00:39:24,890 --> 00:39:28,595
like, You know, in Zoom chat. It

644
00:39:28,595 --> 00:39:32,435
was super it was super funny. That's funny. Basic Max says, would

645
00:39:32,435 --> 00:39:36,055
you add a side widget with a subscription button on your podcast

646
00:39:36,115 --> 00:39:39,940
page? If you want 1, they're they're super easy. You go to pod page

647
00:39:39,940 --> 00:39:43,480
and you put in the links to your show on those particular

648
00:39:43,539 --> 00:39:47,175
things. And then inside of pod page, you can say,

649
00:39:47,175 --> 00:39:50,455
put this in the sidebar. Do you want big buttons, small buttons? Do you just

650
00:39:50,455 --> 00:39:54,215
want the name? And likewise, you can have them on your front

651
00:39:54,215 --> 00:39:57,890
page if you want them. So it's super customizable that

652
00:39:57,890 --> 00:40:01,270
way. And it's super easy if you just go to

653
00:40:01,890 --> 00:40:05,715
any like, if you go to music.amazon.com, find your

654
00:40:05,715 --> 00:40:09,475
show, which can be a challenge. But once you get your show, there's a share

655
00:40:09,475 --> 00:40:12,995
button right there. And so you click on share, you copy the

656
00:40:12,995 --> 00:40:16,600
link, and that's the link you put into your that's your

657
00:40:16,600 --> 00:40:20,440
Amazon link. And you do the same thing to Spotify. And if you go

658
00:40:20,440 --> 00:40:24,115
into Apple Podcasts, their dashboard, you can get the link

659
00:40:24,115 --> 00:40:27,235
there. You can get buttons, all sorts of stuff. But, yeah, if I this is

660
00:40:27,395 --> 00:40:31,059
what are we looking at? We're looking at building a better Dave, and you'll see

661
00:40:31,059 --> 00:40:34,819
where I have subscribe buttons right here on the the right hand side. I

662
00:40:34,819 --> 00:40:37,700
could also have those up here at the top if I go to my home

663
00:40:37,700 --> 00:40:40,575
page. Is this is my home? But yeah. I have this 1 set up so

664
00:40:40,575 --> 00:40:44,255
that there's there's no big thing at the top here. It just starts off with

665
00:40:44,255 --> 00:40:47,520
the different episodes and stuff. And if you're if there's too much money at the

666
00:40:47,520 --> 00:40:50,240
end of the month or too much month at the end of the money, check

667
00:40:50,240 --> 00:40:53,865
out the episode there. Get your money working for you. I've been doing, you

668
00:40:53,865 --> 00:40:57,385
know, a wise a very wise businessman once told me that

669
00:40:57,385 --> 00:41:01,005
pennies make dollars. And I've been paying attention to my pennies, and

670
00:41:01,440 --> 00:41:05,120
lo and behold, I'm ending up with more dollars. So that's always fun. Good

671
00:41:05,120 --> 00:41:08,720
work. Yeah. Question from Danny. He says, when it comes to

672
00:41:08,720 --> 00:41:12,085
podcasting apps, are you trying to encourage listeners to do

673
00:41:12,085 --> 00:41:15,845
so on apps that support value for value? I do. Or

674
00:41:15,845 --> 00:41:19,670
still pushing to the usual Apple, Spotify? It I am torn. That's a

675
00:41:19,670 --> 00:41:23,450
great question. Because I think Cast Magic Cast O Matic

676
00:41:23,910 --> 00:41:27,349
is a great iOS app. It looks just like, in my

677
00:41:27,349 --> 00:41:30,855
opinion, Overcast. It's very, very similar, and I

678
00:41:30,855 --> 00:41:34,615
loved Overcast. It just doesn't do value for value. So I

679
00:41:34,615 --> 00:41:37,849
like to put Do I have yeah. I have Cast O Matic there on the

680
00:41:37,849 --> 00:41:41,690
last page we just looked at. And so I want that

681
00:41:41,690 --> 00:41:44,829
because I want the streaming satoshis. However,

682
00:41:45,835 --> 00:41:49,435
Apple and Spotify both give me the ability to see how far people

683
00:41:49,435 --> 00:41:52,715
listen. And you can kind of reverse engineer that with value for value. You can

684
00:41:52,715 --> 00:41:56,380
see when somebody was giving me, you know, whatever, 10

685
00:41:56,380 --> 00:42:00,140
sats a minute, and then all of a sudden at minute 13, they they

686
00:42:00,140 --> 00:42:03,020
quit showing up. So you can kind of do that. Not quite as easy as

687
00:42:03,020 --> 00:42:06,845
you can in Apple Podcasts. But, yeah, I have been.

688
00:42:06,845 --> 00:42:10,525
And I just listened to the latest episode of the Podcasting 2.0

689
00:42:10,525 --> 00:42:14,125
show. And there the problem is we all were using a

690
00:42:14,125 --> 00:42:17,490
service called Alby to set up our wallet. And

691
00:42:17,490 --> 00:42:21,170
because of all the companies are getting a little worried

692
00:42:21,170 --> 00:42:24,975
because if the U. S. Government just says, yeah, we're not doing that anymore. This

693
00:42:24,975 --> 00:42:28,655
is the new rule on crypto, everybody breaks. So they're they're

694
00:42:28,655 --> 00:42:32,359
all worried about which makes sense. They're all a little worried about, you know,

695
00:42:32,359 --> 00:42:36,040
building their house on rented land in a way. And so they there

696
00:42:36,040 --> 00:42:39,480
was some new thing that Adam found from a bunch of ham radio

697
00:42:39,480 --> 00:42:43,234
guys, e cash or something like that that that might work. And

698
00:42:43,234 --> 00:42:46,914
we're just trying to find the loophole so that in the event uncle Sam

699
00:42:46,914 --> 00:42:50,349
comes down with some bad news, we we've still got, you know, we're not sunk.

700
00:42:50,349 --> 00:42:54,190
Because if if Albie went away because they're still doing things in Europe.

701
00:42:54,190 --> 00:42:57,970
They're just they're not issuing US wallets right now.

702
00:42:58,305 --> 00:43:02,145
And Sam Sethi over at TruFans has kind of

703
00:43:02,145 --> 00:43:04,945
found a hack around that, so we're not dead in the water. But it's just

704
00:43:04,945 --> 00:43:08,720
1 of those things where, like, I'm a little little worried on that. We'll we'll

705
00:43:08,720 --> 00:43:11,760
see. There's still a lot of great features. I mean, as much as we all

706
00:43:11,760 --> 00:43:14,880
talk about the streaming satoshis, and why wouldn't you? That's the fun part where you

707
00:43:14,880 --> 00:43:18,155
get paid. There's still a lot of great features in in 2 0. But right

708
00:43:18,155 --> 00:43:21,355
now, it's like, can we can we kinda shore that up a little bit? Because

709
00:43:21,355 --> 00:43:24,310
it's that makes me worried. I've been talking about that a long time, and I

710
00:43:24,310 --> 00:43:27,850
don't wanna see it go away. It's crypt crypto is still a largely

711
00:43:27,990 --> 00:43:31,535
unregulated, and some people love it that way. It's but it's it's

712
00:43:31,755 --> 00:43:34,655
largely unregulated, and they can do a lot of things.

713
00:43:35,434 --> 00:43:39,060
Just they just decide. This is what we're gonna do. And

714
00:43:39,060 --> 00:43:42,580
there's not a lot that can be done about that. I just it and it's

715
00:43:42,580 --> 00:43:46,180
not right, and it's not wrong. You just you gotta go in eyes

716
00:43:46,180 --> 00:43:49,924
wide open on this kind of thing, just knowing what you're

717
00:43:49,924 --> 00:43:53,684
getting yourselves into. And so I love the value for value

718
00:43:53,684 --> 00:43:57,420
in the sense of finding another way. I just don't think, Dave, I

719
00:43:57,420 --> 00:44:01,020
don't think as humans, we're built in a

720
00:44:01,020 --> 00:44:03,920
way to actually make that work.

721
00:44:04,540 --> 00:44:08,355
Otherwise, radio, newspapers,

722
00:44:08,735 --> 00:44:12,575
television would have figured that out a long time ago. A lot smarter

723
00:44:12,575 --> 00:44:16,380
people, with a lot more money than us doing this for a lot

724
00:44:16,380 --> 00:44:20,140
of years. I mean, mass media, we're at least a 100, maybe

725
00:44:20,140 --> 00:44:23,815
200 years into this if you think about newspapers. They would have figured

726
00:44:23,815 --> 00:44:27,655
out how to make value for value work. It would have worked by now, and

727
00:44:27,655 --> 00:44:31,270
it doesn't. Advertising is what works.

728
00:44:31,430 --> 00:44:35,050
That's how that's how any of this meet kind of media stuff works.

729
00:44:35,430 --> 00:44:39,075
I'm not saying you can't do it because there's certain there's certain cases

730
00:44:39,075 --> 00:44:41,955
where it does work and, you know, Patreon. And we think of some of those

731
00:44:41,955 --> 00:44:45,475
kinds of things that those do work. But far and above, I think

732
00:44:45,475 --> 00:44:49,190
history says and you might you might say, Jim, you're the old, you

733
00:44:49,190 --> 00:44:52,869
know, you're the old guy saying get off my lawn. No. This is gonna

734
00:44:52,869 --> 00:44:56,625
work this time. Well, maybe. It might. I doubt it, to be

735
00:44:56,625 --> 00:45:00,225
honest. It just doesn't work yet. So Yeah. Danny's like, that was kind of a

736
00:45:00,225 --> 00:45:03,265
bit of a stumbling block. And and Dan makes up the great point. In fact,

737
00:45:03,265 --> 00:45:06,770
Adam said this months ago. He's like, if we all use

738
00:45:06,770 --> 00:45:10,610
Albie, we are then using a centralized system. And that was

739
00:45:10,610 --> 00:45:14,310
the whole part of podcasting 2.0 was that so people couldn't

740
00:45:14,875 --> 00:45:18,715
shut us down. Rich has a question about changing your name. He says,

741
00:45:18,795 --> 00:45:22,495
when you change your RSS feed name because I'm changing the name of my show,

742
00:45:22,680 --> 00:45:26,360
what places do you have to update that? Well, in theory, here in

743
00:45:26,360 --> 00:45:29,900
Libsyn, if you just go to settings and go to podcast,

744
00:45:30,555 --> 00:45:34,095
you can like if I want to just make this whatever

745
00:45:34,395 --> 00:45:38,160
pre podcast advice or whatever, I could change the name here. And then

746
00:45:38,160 --> 00:45:42,000
the way RSS works, if I was in Captivate, you can go just

747
00:45:42,000 --> 00:45:45,635
here. Here's your podcast website. Go to podcast settings. It's super

748
00:45:45,635 --> 00:45:49,155
easy to just come down here and just change the name because the way

749
00:45:49,155 --> 00:45:52,775
casting works is RSS the last s of that is syndication.

750
00:45:53,430 --> 00:45:57,210
And so here's your, you know, your RSS feed is the source of truth,

751
00:45:57,350 --> 00:46:00,470
and then Apple looks at it and Spotify looks at it. So if you change

752
00:46:00,470 --> 00:46:04,214
it here, in theory, you shouldn't have to change it anywhere. What you

753
00:46:04,214 --> 00:46:07,355
don't wanna do is if your show is mywebsite.com/rss,

754
00:46:09,575 --> 00:46:11,850
you don't wanna make that yourwebsite.com/rss

755
00:46:13,910 --> 00:46:17,450
because that will break it because everybody's looking at that address.

756
00:46:17,670 --> 00:46:20,310
And all of a sudden you went, oops, I'm over here now. And it's gonna

757
00:46:20,310 --> 00:46:23,855
go, where did he go? And so you don't want to change the

758
00:46:23,855 --> 00:46:27,695
actual name of the RSS link, but you can change

759
00:46:27,695 --> 00:46:31,430
everything inside of it. I mean, for years, I was laughing. I had my

760
00:46:31,430 --> 00:46:34,890
first show was the musician's cooler, and I think

761
00:46:35,510 --> 00:46:39,135
I forgot the, like, an I or a c or something, and it had a

762
00:46:39,135 --> 00:46:42,575
typo in it. And I was like, you know what? Nobody sees the

763
00:46:42,575 --> 00:46:45,935
actual feed. Like, I don't know. Jim, what's the show you listen

764
00:46:45,935 --> 00:46:49,750
to? Windows Weekly. Windows Weekly. And their RSS

765
00:46:49,750 --> 00:46:53,430
feed is? I don't know. Yeah. We have no idea. Well, humans still

766
00:46:53,430 --> 00:46:57,005
look at it. It don't really care. It could be anything. Well,

767
00:46:57,065 --> 00:47:00,585
Lipson used to allow you to change your feed

768
00:47:00,585 --> 00:47:04,220
name. And we would explain to people. We're

769
00:47:04,220 --> 00:47:07,820
like, hey, if you do this, like, everything

770
00:47:07,820 --> 00:47:11,580
explodes. It's you're back to 0. All your ratings, your reviews, it's like

771
00:47:11,580 --> 00:47:15,095
it's all gonna go up in flames. Is there someone holding a gun to your

772
00:47:15,095 --> 00:47:18,535
head? And in some cases, it was a legal thing, and they like, no. No.

773
00:47:18,535 --> 00:47:22,135
I have to. But in most cases, it wasn't. And then they would change

774
00:47:22,135 --> 00:47:25,910
it, and you're like, okay. And then 2 weeks later, like, hey. My

775
00:47:25,910 --> 00:47:29,510
new episode is not showing up in Apple. Like, yeah. Remember when we said

776
00:47:29,845 --> 00:47:33,224
so we finally just said, yeah. That's enough of that. It it created a lot

777
00:47:33,685 --> 00:47:37,305
of support calls that were just you're like, I we don't need here to

778
00:47:37,730 --> 00:47:41,570
explain people how an RSS works. It was a lot of fun. So that's

779
00:47:41,650 --> 00:47:45,305
and I would give it 24 hours after you change it for that to show

780
00:47:45,305 --> 00:47:49,065
up. Also, if you're changing your artwork, make sure if it was called

781
00:47:49,065 --> 00:47:52,660
artwork. Jpeg, like make the new 1 artwork 2.jpeg,

782
00:47:53,040 --> 00:47:56,640
some sort of different file name because sometimes Apple check and go, oh, that's the

783
00:47:56,640 --> 00:48:00,160
same file because it's the same file name when it's not. But it should take

784
00:48:00,160 --> 00:48:03,795
about an hour or an hour a day to an hour would be

785
00:48:03,795 --> 00:48:07,635
great. Yeah. Todd Gator said, I added a subtitle to my podcast name

786
00:48:07,635 --> 00:48:11,440
in Libsyn, and it transferred nicely. Where does that show up?

787
00:48:11,820 --> 00:48:15,339
Like, the name I get, I've never been able to find an app that shows

788
00:48:15,339 --> 00:48:19,164
the actual subtitle. That it shows the author name.

789
00:48:19,164 --> 00:48:22,924
Almost all app show name and then the author, but I was like I

790
00:48:22,924 --> 00:48:26,490
remember 1 time I put, like, just gibberish in

791
00:48:26,490 --> 00:48:29,690
the the subtitle. I'm like, where does this show? I went to every app, and

792
00:48:29,690 --> 00:48:33,505
I'm like, I don't think Libsyn 5 has the subtitle anymore

793
00:48:33,505 --> 00:48:37,105
because we couldn't figure out where it went. There's, like, 1 lonely app

794
00:48:37,105 --> 00:48:40,949
somewhere that's displaying the subtitle. I'm like Mhmm. So that's

795
00:48:40,949 --> 00:48:44,710
a Don't don't forget, couple days after you've submitted

796
00:48:44,710 --> 00:48:48,545
this, Google the old stuff or search however you wanna do it.

797
00:48:48,704 --> 00:48:52,385
Go search for the old stuff and see because you there there may

798
00:48:52,385 --> 00:48:56,165
be apps you submitted the RSS feed to that are

799
00:48:57,020 --> 00:49:00,380
disconnected from things for whatever reason. They don't pull

800
00:49:00,380 --> 00:49:04,000
updates. They don't do whatever. You might have had to put some things in manually.

801
00:49:04,515 --> 00:49:07,235
So give it a give it a couple days, then go up. Make sure you

802
00:49:07,235 --> 00:49:11,075
go out and search. You're gonna have to be vigilant for a couple

803
00:49:11,075 --> 00:49:14,660
weeks, maybe up to a month, just to make sure you caught, you know,

804
00:49:14,660 --> 00:49:18,420
everything that you submitted. Oftentimes, as podcasters, we submit to

805
00:49:18,420 --> 00:49:22,255
absolutely everything. We never write any of that stuff down. I made a spreadsheet

806
00:49:22,635 --> 00:49:26,475
when I was doing some work on Home Gadget Geeks to say, here's all

807
00:49:26,475 --> 00:49:29,755
the places and I did this at Gallup as well. Here's all the places we

808
00:49:29,755 --> 00:49:33,579
submitted to. And so I would know then, like, okay. If

809
00:49:33,579 --> 00:49:36,940
I've gotta change anything or if I have to go back in and manually give

810
00:49:36,940 --> 00:49:40,595
them the the RSS feed or whatever whatever

811
00:49:40,595 --> 00:49:44,295
we need. I know where to go back and do the checklist. So

812
00:49:44,435 --> 00:49:47,155
if you haven't done that yet, it might be a good idea if you've gone

813
00:49:47,155 --> 00:49:50,870
outside of your host, certainly with Libsyn. Spreaker does

814
00:49:50,870 --> 00:49:54,330
this as well, where they'll help you submit

815
00:49:54,390 --> 00:49:58,215
your RSS feed to other places. If you

816
00:49:58,215 --> 00:50:02,055
chose to do that, you might wanna just follow-up with those places and make

817
00:50:02,055 --> 00:50:05,815
sure that an update has been done. You might need to log in and physically

818
00:50:05,815 --> 00:50:08,900
run an update. You might need to just up you might need to contact their

819
00:50:08,900 --> 00:50:12,680
support and say, this was the case with 1 of those fms

820
00:50:12,900 --> 00:50:16,425
something dot FMI can't remember what it was. Where once it was

821
00:50:16,425 --> 00:50:19,945
submitted, it was completely disconnected from anything at that

822
00:50:19,945 --> 00:50:23,545
point. They weren't updating. You had to go in, and you couldn't

823
00:50:23,545 --> 00:50:26,240
just update it on the site. You had to send them an email to their

824
00:50:26,240 --> 00:50:29,839
support team and say, hey. Could you change the name of this thing on

825
00:50:29,839 --> 00:50:33,405
your on your site? You know? So yeah. Just just

826
00:50:33,484 --> 00:50:36,684
and then document it. This would be a great time to get it documented. Yeah.

827
00:50:36,684 --> 00:50:39,964
And if you if you are moving from let's say, you were on Buzzsprout, you

828
00:50:39,964 --> 00:50:43,490
moved to Captivate, the you know, both

829
00:50:43,490 --> 00:50:47,170
those hosts make it super easy for you

830
00:50:47,170 --> 00:50:50,770
to just click a button and submit to everybody but

831
00:50:50,770 --> 00:50:53,955
Apple, cause you don't want to automatically submit to Apple. I'll explain that in a

832
00:50:53,955 --> 00:50:57,795
second. But if you've already done that and then you move to a media host

833
00:50:57,795 --> 00:51:01,570
number 2 and you do it again, your show is now listed twice. So that's

834
00:51:01,570 --> 00:51:05,410
where just by updating the the feed and then in most

835
00:51:05,410 --> 00:51:08,515
hosts, there's a thing. If we get our nerd on called a 3 0 1

836
00:51:08,515 --> 00:51:11,955
redirect, and you basically say, hey, it's like a change of address for

837
00:51:11,955 --> 00:51:15,560
podcasts. And so that's where if it was looking at a

838
00:51:15,560 --> 00:51:19,099
Buzzsprouts feed and now the feed says, hey, they live at Captivate,

839
00:51:19,400 --> 00:51:23,160
it'll update Apple and Spotify and Amazon to look over there. So

840
00:51:23,160 --> 00:51:25,885
don't do that twice. And with, Spotify,

841
00:51:26,985 --> 00:51:30,825
what you do is you submit it there and then you go over

842
00:51:30,825 --> 00:51:34,539
to Spotify and you make an account and you claim it. And it what it

843
00:51:34,539 --> 00:51:38,000
will do is it will send something

844
00:51:38,059 --> 00:51:41,900
via email. We all know the whole double authentication. So if you're using something like

845
00:51:41,900 --> 00:51:45,245
Buzzsprout or Captivate, you have to you have to go in and say put my

846
00:51:45,245 --> 00:51:48,925
email back in my feed because both those host have it so that

847
00:51:48,925 --> 00:51:51,965
they pull your your email out of it so you don't get as much of

848
00:51:51,965 --> 00:51:55,640
that annoying spam stuff. And so you put your email back.

849
00:51:55,780 --> 00:51:59,540
Spotify goes, hey, is this you? And you go, yep. And then you

850
00:51:59,540 --> 00:52:03,194
can go in and see all the fun filled stats. Spotify is the only

851
00:52:03,194 --> 00:52:06,974
1. You can see how far people listen. Apple does that. But Spotify

852
00:52:07,035 --> 00:52:10,670
allows you to see demographic stuff, which is also very

853
00:52:10,670 --> 00:52:14,370
weird because you can see, like, mine's primarily male,

854
00:52:14,430 --> 00:52:18,050
but you can also see, like, who your favorite artist. And it's like, oh,

855
00:52:18,145 --> 00:52:21,905
Ed Sheeran and Meshuggah or some death metal band.

856
00:52:21,905 --> 00:52:25,505
You're like, I have a very weird audience that listens to a wide range

857
00:52:25,505 --> 00:52:29,170
of stuff. Coach Dave, is Sharon here.

858
00:52:29,170 --> 00:52:33,010
We're talking about, you know, the whole crypto, things like that. He said in

859
00:52:33,010 --> 00:52:36,474
Moosehead Lake Moosehead Lake in Maine, it's a small business

860
00:52:36,474 --> 00:52:40,255
owners branded together and created Moose Dollars, locally redeemable

861
00:52:40,395 --> 00:52:44,240
monopoly money that exchange between businesses. You buy axe and

862
00:52:44,240 --> 00:52:47,920
use so many moose dollars for ice cream at this. So that's what we

863
00:52:47,920 --> 00:52:51,375
need. We need some sort of podcast tokens, and that's kind of what

864
00:52:51,615 --> 00:52:55,295
Bitcoin was gonna be. In fact, James Crinland used to call it Internet

865
00:52:55,295 --> 00:52:59,055
tokens. So we'll we'll see what happens. So but yeah. And

866
00:52:59,055 --> 00:53:02,720
Todd said he was. He updated the subtitle in Spotify. So

867
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apparently, there's a shocking that Spotify would have something that only works in

868
00:53:06,559 --> 00:53:10,375
Spotify, but they have apparently a subtitle that you can update there,

869
00:53:10,375 --> 00:53:14,075
and it didn't take long. So are blogs still a thing?

870
00:53:14,490 --> 00:53:18,250
The 1 and only Ken Blanchard wants to know. Yeah. Actually, there

871
00:53:18,250 --> 00:53:22,090
are probably still more blogs than

872
00:53:22,090 --> 00:53:25,825
podcasts because people don't

873
00:53:25,825 --> 00:53:29,445
know there's podcast. I don't know. But it's you know, YouTube is the king,

874
00:53:29,825 --> 00:53:33,633
then blogging. I need to research that. But I heard I heard it on

875
00:53:33,633 --> 00:53:36,490
another show. They said that if you're if you're trying to

876
00:53:37,269 --> 00:53:41,055
be found, you know, be a big fish in a small pond, It's easier

877
00:53:41,055 --> 00:53:44,835
to be found as much as we go, but coasting has a discoverability problem.

878
00:53:45,135 --> 00:53:48,575
It's easier to be found in podcasting than it is in blogs because there are

879
00:53:48,575 --> 00:53:52,160
people that have been blogging for ever, you know, so they're still

880
00:53:52,160 --> 00:53:55,920
there. I don't read as many blogs as I used to. I

881
00:53:55,920 --> 00:53:59,535
I use Medium every now and then or Substack. That's

882
00:53:59,535 --> 00:54:03,295
kind of more my my jam at this point because I can really fine tune.

883
00:54:03,295 --> 00:54:07,029
But I think that's probably I don't know if it's more. But in

884
00:54:07,029 --> 00:54:10,470
terms of what I read, I read more newsletters than I do blogs. And in

885
00:54:10,470 --> 00:54:14,155
theory, if they're smart, their newsletter should be a blog. I don't know. How about

886
00:54:14,155 --> 00:54:17,915
you, Jim? Do you read any blogs or newsletters? Oh, yeah. Yeah. I mean, blogs

887
00:54:17,915 --> 00:54:21,375
have their well, I mean, if we're just gonna say it's a page

888
00:54:22,150 --> 00:54:25,750
associated with podcasts, sometimes we call those

889
00:54:25,750 --> 00:54:29,210
show notes, right? That's a blog.

890
00:54:29,855 --> 00:54:33,615
Some people are still writing. There's a lot of writing. I mean, AI is

891
00:54:33,615 --> 00:54:37,295
gonna change this where you can just so easily create these

892
00:54:37,295 --> 00:54:40,900
pages that there's gonna be 100 or 1, 000

893
00:54:40,960 --> 00:54:44,500
more being created than ever were before. So,

894
00:54:44,880 --> 00:54:47,840
yeah, they're still out there, and they're still helpful. You see a lot of these,

895
00:54:47,840 --> 00:54:51,535
you know, best product for 2024 blog. Yeah.

896
00:54:51,535 --> 00:54:55,375
Yeah. Now if you if you're looking for information I

897
00:54:55,375 --> 00:54:59,180
mean, the the the old blog idea was

898
00:54:59,180 --> 00:55:02,320
more of a journal or more written from an individual's

899
00:55:02,540 --> 00:55:06,335
perspective or more, you know, kind of that it

900
00:55:06,335 --> 00:55:09,934
was like a rev I wanna say reviews, but they were kind of

901
00:55:09,934 --> 00:55:13,510
more, you know, a human from a human

902
00:55:13,510 --> 00:55:17,350
perspective on things. But I think most media has

903
00:55:17,350 --> 00:55:20,915
gotten away from that for the most part. I don't think there are many people

904
00:55:20,915 --> 00:55:23,955
out there doing as many. There's certainly there are. I just don't think there is

905
00:55:23,955 --> 00:55:27,700
many doing individual reviews and stuff via blog

906
00:55:27,780 --> 00:55:30,260
style. It does happen. I just don't think it's as popular as it used to

907
00:55:30,260 --> 00:55:33,859
be. Yeah. Well and with our good friend AI, they're probably more popping up that

908
00:55:33,859 --> 00:55:37,445
are giving you extremely mediocre content. Dan says, in my honest

909
00:55:37,445 --> 00:55:41,045
opinion, text versus audio is like audio versus video. It's

910
00:55:41,045 --> 00:55:44,400
different mediums with a lot of overlap in the content, but they

911
00:55:44,400 --> 00:55:48,099
still, you know, it's different mediums with an with an audience. So yeah.

912
00:55:48,240 --> 00:55:51,920
Jeff says, I agree with Jim. I think getting people on your list and

913
00:55:51,920 --> 00:55:55,745
hearing them, hearing from you, not an AI, is the

914
00:55:55,745 --> 00:55:59,505
best place to connect with people. Yeah. I somebody asked me. They're like,

915
00:55:59,505 --> 00:56:02,900
what would be the number 1 call to action? And I said, get on my

916
00:56:02,900 --> 00:56:06,099
list. Because once they're on my list, I can ask them to do whatever I

917
00:56:06,099 --> 00:56:09,735
want. Now, if you ask too much stuff without giving them anything, they'd be like,

918
00:56:09,735 --> 00:56:13,415
this guy's just a spamming robot and they're they're gone. But once they're

919
00:56:13,415 --> 00:56:17,255
on, like, my my newsletter, I I there's a section where it's like what I've

920
00:56:17,255 --> 00:56:20,670
been up to, and it's a link to every episode that I've done since the

921
00:56:20,670 --> 00:56:23,550
last time I put out a newsletter. And it says the name of the show,

922
00:56:23,550 --> 00:56:26,990
and then there's a follow link. So I'm hoping I'm getting more subscribers over

923
00:56:26,990 --> 00:56:30,365
there, But it's just 1 of those things that I'm surprised at how much traffic

924
00:56:30,825 --> 00:56:34,585
I'm getting from people who probably maybe saw it in

925
00:56:34,585 --> 00:56:37,560
the in the app. And then I go off to listen to that later. And

926
00:56:37,560 --> 00:56:40,040
then they see, oh, yeah, I was going to listen that. I never did. They

927
00:56:40,120 --> 00:56:43,180
they're jumping back to the audio in that.

928
00:56:44,120 --> 00:56:47,545
Craig says, I think human opinion and analysis is going to be

929
00:56:47,545 --> 00:56:50,845
valued a whole lot more going forward. Yeah, me too.

930
00:56:51,385 --> 00:56:55,085
Although I am finding some AI, I'm working on an episode

931
00:56:55,700 --> 00:56:59,400
on here are ways, you know, you can use AI as a podcaster.

932
00:56:59,859 --> 00:57:02,520
And I finally started taking time to learn Descript.

933
00:57:03,220 --> 00:57:06,905
And normally, we end the show at noon.

934
00:57:07,685 --> 00:57:11,225
And by 4, 4:30, I'm done

935
00:57:11,365 --> 00:57:14,940
because I've putting in chapters and editing out.

936
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And between myself, this is primarily it's about 90% me and about

937
00:57:18,700 --> 00:57:22,434
10% Jim. We will have somewhere over 300 to 400

938
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umms in that. Especially, I'm gonna try not to do it today when we get

939
00:57:26,494 --> 00:57:29,990
to our awesome supporters, But I am always looking over

940
00:57:29,990 --> 00:57:33,670
here and switching this. And as I'm doing it, I go and and

941
00:57:33,670 --> 00:57:37,305
just an end up machine. And so I went to Descript and I

942
00:57:37,305 --> 00:57:41,145
said, remove filler words. But I said, don't do them all. Just

943
00:57:41,145 --> 00:57:44,900
look for umms. And I think I said look for double words. So where

944
00:57:44,900 --> 00:57:48,680
I'll be like like that thing. Well, that's a double word.

945
00:57:48,740 --> 00:57:52,205
And it put them out, and then I said add markers.

946
00:57:52,905 --> 00:57:56,585
And that's basically so it basically kind of figures out where we change

947
00:57:56,585 --> 00:57:59,800
subject and put those in there. I was kind of bummed because I could say

948
00:57:59,880 --> 00:58:03,720
add timestamps and it gives me timestamps. So I'm like, yes, add those

949
00:58:03,720 --> 00:58:06,520
to the script. And it's like, nope, I can do markers and I can do

950
00:58:06,520 --> 00:58:10,184
timestamps. I can't do markers with timestamps. I'm like, okay.

951
00:58:10,184 --> 00:58:13,885
So I copy the time stamps because that's great for YouTube ish

952
00:58:14,105 --> 00:58:17,464
because it is edited. But bottom line, I was done by

953
00:58:17,464 --> 00:58:21,200
1:30, and I'm normally done about 4 o'clock. And

954
00:58:21,200 --> 00:58:24,960
so the the beauty is when you have chapters in

955
00:58:24,960 --> 00:58:28,724
Descript, you can then export the audio and say, hey, those markers

956
00:58:28,724 --> 00:58:32,404
that you made, use them as chapters. Because this show kinda needs

957
00:58:32,404 --> 00:58:36,059
chapters. We we bounce around all over the place. So that's 1 where I

958
00:58:36,059 --> 00:58:39,660
was like, So I the more I get into Descript

959
00:58:39,660 --> 00:58:43,339
now, granted, everything I learned last week in Descript is

960
00:58:43,339 --> 00:58:47,035
probably gone because they changed their interface on an hourly basis.

961
00:58:47,095 --> 00:58:50,855
But that's that's an example of of AI. And, Jim, you were talking

962
00:58:50,855 --> 00:58:54,210
about how you have something in Otter that you do where it

963
00:58:54,210 --> 00:58:57,750
finds businesses or something? No. I asked,

964
00:58:57,970 --> 00:59:01,569
what are the products we discussed? And it'll it'll bring

965
00:59:01,569 --> 00:59:05,295
back the product, the product names of the things we talked about.

966
00:59:05,295 --> 00:59:08,835
It's, you know, it's a gadget show, so it's kinda helpful to

967
00:59:09,215 --> 00:59:12,060
to be able to pull some of those back. I could add links to them

968
00:59:12,060 --> 00:59:15,660
if I wanted to. That'd be 1 of those summary. That's 1 of the

969
00:59:15,660 --> 00:59:19,500
things AI is really good at with some of these summary you know, taking

970
00:59:19,500 --> 00:59:21,855
a conversation, ultimate summarization

971
00:59:23,275 --> 00:59:27,115
summarization, I can't say that word right, is to then just give me a list

972
00:59:27,115 --> 00:59:30,940
of those things. I also ask it, give me some quotes. This

973
00:59:30,940 --> 00:59:34,240
is in this is in Otter. OpenAI does it just as well,

974
00:59:34,460 --> 00:59:38,045
but give me some quotes from it. And it it it pulls

975
00:59:38,045 --> 00:59:40,845
back 3 or 4 quotes that I add to the show notes, which is kinda

976
00:59:40,845 --> 00:59:44,490
nice. Nice. Craig asked, did it

977
00:59:44,710 --> 00:59:48,330
still sound natural? And this is where I was almost positive

978
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I was gonna have a bad edit because I listened to, like, 3 fourths of

979
00:59:51,910 --> 00:59:55,704
it. I was like, ah, good enough. And, yeah, I didn't hear any. So that's

980
00:59:55,704 --> 00:59:59,545
that's good. But Jeff says you might wanna be careful with that double

981
00:59:59,545 --> 01:00:03,290
word thing because it's not always great. But, I just

982
01:00:03,450 --> 01:00:07,210
I was the 1 thing I did notice is as I was

983
01:00:07,210 --> 01:00:11,015
listening, it did not mark our let's thank our

984
01:00:11,015 --> 01:00:14,535
awesome supporters as a chapter, as a

985
01:00:14,535 --> 01:00:18,350
marker. And I was like, oh, I kinda wanna make sure people can

986
01:00:18,430 --> 01:00:21,630
can jump right to that. But speaking of that, we should probably thank our awesome

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supporters. If you wanna be an awesome supporter, it's super simple.

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Just go over to ask the podcast coach.com/ awesome,

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and you can be like all these awesome people. And, of course,

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the show is brought to you by The School of Podcasting

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where you get awesome courses. I had somebody join this

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week. They've been podcasting a while. They went through the planning your podcast 1, and

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they're like, wow. I didn't do half this stuff. And I was like, well, there

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you go. That's why you're here. And our community is awesome. We've

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got we just had somebody yesterday that's doing 14 podcasts.

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14. I thought I was like, well, there you go. I can now say I

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know somebody with more shows than I do. And he's they're all for

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boomers, which is great. And then you get unlimited coaching. So if you

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wanna hang out with me, people go, so, like, unlimited. I'm like, yeah. That

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means unlimited. Like, if it's available on my calendar and you want it, you

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take it. And, of course, that comes with a 30 day money back guarantee.

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And right now, we're using Ecamm because, it's so good. If you

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ever wondered why it says Ecamm with 2 m's, that's why. So

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good. And I'll be going to Ecamm Creator Camp, later

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in October. I'm looking forward to hanging out with those peeps. And if you need

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Geeks. And it's time for

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the Wheel O names. So let's

1014
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jump over there. And so who will it be?

1015
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Will it be John Munce? Will it be AI Goes TO College or Ross

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Brand or the Ask Ralph podcast? Well, we'll find out when I click the

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button here. Round and round she goes.

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And it is

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wow. Wow. That was almost Craig. But,

1020
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no, it's our buddy, Ross Brand, and he

1021
01:02:28,655 --> 01:02:32,495
does I know his show streaming. I see I should know

1022
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this. This is how well I know my awesome supporters. I know Ross. Just Google

1023
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Ross Brand live streaming. Do you know the name of the show,

1024
01:02:39,630 --> 01:02:43,410
Jim? Yeah. Here. Let's just do this live.

1025
01:02:43,605 --> 01:02:46,744
Let's let's see how good Ross's SEO is.

1026
01:02:47,045 --> 01:02:50,825
Ross Brand Podcast. It's something streaming. Streaming

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world, streaming live stream universe. Live stream

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universe. There we go. Just total brain fart. I was like, I know I know,

1029
01:02:58,100 --> 01:03:01,755
and honest I do. And so thank you, Ross, for being an

1030
01:03:01,755 --> 01:03:04,895
awesome supporter, even though I can't remember the name of your show. That wasn't embarrassing

1031
01:03:04,955 --> 01:03:08,655
at all. If you if you want to be an awesome supporter,

1032
01:03:09,349 --> 01:03:12,710
how can I forget that? You know, I think about You forget sometimes when you're

1033
01:03:12,710 --> 01:03:16,550
doing things live. It's hard. Yeah. Forget it. So this is a show. Are

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we saving you time? Are we saving you money? In fact, coach

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Dave says, where did it go? He said where he did something with with and

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that's coach Dave is an awesome supporter. But he said he fixed something

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with knowledge from the school or from Ask the Podcast Coach. So, for

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saving you money, for saving you headaches, then go over to ask the podcast

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coach.com/awesome and be an awesome

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supporter. And we do have an

1041
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interesting question here. I don't know if you can fix this,

1042
01:03:46,370 --> 01:03:50,210
but, she says this is from Susan Flamingo over

1043
01:03:50,210 --> 01:03:53,954
Reddit. Hi, friends. I narrate my podcast. I

1044
01:03:53,954 --> 01:03:57,474
record in Audacity and enhance with Adobe Voice

1045
01:03:57,474 --> 01:04:00,855
Enhancement, which really makes the recording, perfect.

1046
01:04:01,380 --> 01:04:04,740
But I have a problem. I sound like I'm talking with a,

1047
01:04:05,060 --> 01:04:08,785
with my nose clogged because it is. I have a

1048
01:04:08,785 --> 01:04:12,485
disorder in which 1 nostril is almost always totally blocked.

1049
01:04:12,785 --> 01:04:16,550
It causes sleep apnea and a bunch of other stuff. Is there a way I

1050
01:04:16,550 --> 01:04:20,390
can alter the voice over so it will sound normal with this

1051
01:04:20,390 --> 01:04:23,964
effect? Thank you, and have a good day. And so I just

1052
01:04:23,964 --> 01:04:27,505
picture Rudolph, you know, the with with clogs like this,

1053
01:04:27,644 --> 01:04:31,310
they think my nose, that whole like so this is how you set. Number 1,

1054
01:04:31,310 --> 01:04:34,510
nobody else is gonna sound like you. You're always gonna be kinda clogged up. So

1055
01:04:34,510 --> 01:04:38,350
that's gonna be like a good thing. But aside

1056
01:04:38,350 --> 01:04:41,085
from going into the EQ

1057
01:04:42,105 --> 01:04:45,865
and maybe taking out a bunch of the mid I mean, if you literally sound

1058
01:04:45,865 --> 01:04:49,640
like Rudolph, the you're like, you're gonna sound that way. I don't know

1059
01:04:49,640 --> 01:04:53,480
if there's anything we can do to make you sound less clogged up. Any

1060
01:04:53,480 --> 01:04:57,315
thoughts on the top you're in? If there are moments, we

1061
01:04:57,875 --> 01:05:01,395
they they said always, but maybe there are a few

1062
01:05:01,395 --> 01:05:05,020
moments when it's not always. Yeah. This may be 1 of those

1063
01:05:05,020 --> 01:05:08,780
areas where AI in the future can help you, where you record sit down and

1064
01:05:08,780 --> 01:05:12,515
record a bunch of you not in that sound

1065
01:05:12,815 --> 01:05:16,575
and then reproduce your you know, you

1066
01:05:16,575 --> 01:05:20,300
have to do transcripts and some of those things. As Danny

1067
01:05:20,300 --> 01:05:24,140
says, he says, think that could be fixed with EQ. It's a

1068
01:05:24,140 --> 01:05:27,840
lot that's a lot to ask of of EQ. Yeah. I mean, maybe

1069
01:05:28,194 --> 01:05:31,174
maybe you're gonna have to fix it every single time.

1070
01:05:31,875 --> 01:05:35,315
Like Well or set up. You could probably get a plug in for a

1071
01:05:35,315 --> 01:05:39,119
paramedic EQ, And that sounds like a big fancy word. But, basically,

1072
01:05:39,119 --> 01:05:42,960
you find that frequency, and you can pick how how many

1073
01:05:42,960 --> 01:05:46,705
other frequencies around that. So you end up with this this kind

1074
01:05:46,765 --> 01:05:50,445
of dip, and that dip can be really super specific for just

1075
01:05:50,445 --> 01:05:54,125
that 1 frequency or a whole frequency range there. And

1076
01:05:54,125 --> 01:05:57,540
then you pick how much of that you want to take out. So that could

1077
01:05:57,619 --> 01:06:01,220
but I if you sound like you're stuffed up, it's you're gonna sound like you're

1078
01:06:01,220 --> 01:06:04,435
stuffed up. Yeah. It's gonna be hard. Yeah. It's gonna be hard.

1079
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Yeah. And that's what yeah. Danny says create a template. But they they if you

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go to again, I'm a big fan of WAV's plugins. I'm sure they've got a

1081
01:06:11,155 --> 01:06:14,930
paramedic QE there. But it could be yeah. Craig says, my cohost had

1082
01:06:14,930 --> 01:06:18,530
a blocked nose passage and had a minor operation to clear

1083
01:06:18,530 --> 01:06:22,325
it. So there is fine. Yeah. Or cocaine. You know, that's always

1084
01:06:22,645 --> 01:06:26,165
Yeah. I don't do that. Yeah. We neither endorse nor

1085
01:06:27,125 --> 01:06:30,600
The problem with that is then you lose your nose. And you're like, hey, the

1086
01:06:30,600 --> 01:06:33,560
great news is I don't sound stand up. The bad news is my nose fell

1087
01:06:33,560 --> 01:06:37,320
off. So yeah. Don't do it. Don't do it. Don't do it. I'm

1088
01:06:37,320 --> 01:06:40,905
sure this individual has has consulted with with

1089
01:06:40,905 --> 01:06:44,665
medical people and those kinds of things as far as what you can do

1090
01:06:44,665 --> 01:06:48,410
about some a long term. Listen, the other option, and

1091
01:06:48,410 --> 01:06:51,950
you kind of alluded to this, Dave, is just embrace it. Yeah. Like,

1092
01:06:52,089 --> 01:06:55,734
that's your voice. And if it's that way most of the time, embrace it

1093
01:06:55,734 --> 01:06:59,414
for what it is. And and yeah. Will people have a

1094
01:06:59,414 --> 01:07:02,954
problem listening to it? Maybe. And if they do, that's their problem.

1095
01:07:03,720 --> 01:07:07,020
Right? It's there's not I think of all the unique,

1096
01:07:07,720 --> 01:07:11,480
you know, of voice folks that are out there,

1097
01:07:11,480 --> 01:07:15,065
and many of them, once people start listening to him, he stop

1098
01:07:15,065 --> 01:07:17,865
hearing those kinds of things. And if people have a problem with it, maybe they

1099
01:07:17,865 --> 01:07:21,704
shouldn't be your listeners. I think he's still I think he's still around. There was,

1100
01:07:22,105 --> 01:07:25,520
doctor Dave shrink-wrap radio, and doctor Dave sounded like

1101
01:07:25,520 --> 01:07:28,880
this. He kinda always sounded like he was a horse, like a Doc

1102
01:07:28,880 --> 01:07:32,165
McGee from the Celtics used to sound, oh, it's a horse. Right?

1103
01:07:32,645 --> 01:07:36,245
But the minute I heard him, I knew it was, you know, doctor

1104
01:07:36,245 --> 01:07:39,480
Dave. And for the record, doctor Dave ruins my voice. So

1105
01:07:40,680 --> 01:07:44,520
totally cow. Yes. Don't do that. But, yeah, there are all sorts of people

1106
01:07:44,520 --> 01:07:48,040
with different, you know, Rob Greenlee has his I I when as soon as I

1107
01:07:48,040 --> 01:07:51,665
hear Rob Greenlee, I know it's Rob Greenlee. And that's, you know, and then Todd

1108
01:07:51,665 --> 01:07:55,345
Todd over there, new BDX. But, like, everybody sounds the way you sound. My the

1109
01:07:55,345 --> 01:07:58,600
1 that really blew me away was Michelle Coshocton

1110
01:07:59,300 --> 01:08:02,500
did a show with Michael Hyatt. It was Michael Hyatt's show. She was kind of

1111
01:08:02,500 --> 01:08:06,180
color commentary. And she got tongue cancer, and they ripped out

1112
01:08:06,180 --> 01:08:09,935
half her tongue. And so she had a saying where her s's

1113
01:08:09,935 --> 01:08:12,735
were kinda like and I'm not making fun of her, but this is how she

1114
01:08:12,735 --> 01:08:16,580
sounded. And it was weird is there's

1115
01:08:16,580 --> 01:08:20,340
a thing called, I think it's nose blindness. This is basically

1116
01:08:20,420 --> 01:08:24,260
hey, let's talk about farts, shall we? This is where when you like your farts

1117
01:08:24,260 --> 01:08:27,854
don't smell that bad. Right? But if somebody else does Not mine. For sure. Not

1118
01:08:27,854 --> 01:08:31,614
mine. And and then if you're in some place and you're like, oh,

1119
01:08:31,614 --> 01:08:35,450
this is so bad. But after 2 minutes, you're like, okay. It's not as

1120
01:08:35,450 --> 01:08:39,229
bad. Like, your nose somehow in your brain filter out

1121
01:08:39,770 --> 01:08:43,415
that so it's not quite as bad. Right? So with Mel

1122
01:08:43,495 --> 01:08:47,095
Michelle, when she first came on, because she had taken off because she had

1123
01:08:47,095 --> 01:08:50,600
cancer, and she came back. And I was, like, holy

1124
01:08:50,600 --> 01:08:54,360
cow. How courageous to come back with a little bit of a speech

1125
01:08:54,360 --> 01:08:57,800
impediment. And within 5 minutes, I totally didn't even notice

1126
01:08:57,800 --> 01:09:01,094
it. I don't know if that's, you know, ear blindness or whatever.

1127
01:09:01,554 --> 01:09:05,015
But my friend, like, once you once you once you first started,

1128
01:09:05,689 --> 01:09:09,149
it was like, oh, wow. I can't believe. I mean,

1129
01:09:09,289 --> 01:09:13,069
anybody with an accent. You know, Danny's got a kick butt Scottish accent.

1130
01:09:13,365 --> 01:09:16,965
And so when he first comes on, it takes me a second to go,

1131
01:09:16,965 --> 01:09:20,645
oh, wait a minute. I gotta I gotta put on my my filter or

1132
01:09:21,020 --> 01:09:23,420
you know, and I'm sure Danny does the same thing to me. He's like, oh,

1133
01:09:23,420 --> 01:09:27,260
wait. He's speaking American. I gotta gotta figure this out because that that

1134
01:09:27,260 --> 01:09:31,045
guy sounds weird compared to me. So it's I and I absolutely

1135
01:09:31,264 --> 01:09:34,704
adore accents, man. I'm we have Mark Lawley from Practical

1136
01:09:34,704 --> 01:09:38,120
Prepping, and he's from Alabama. And he sounds like he's from

1137
01:09:38,120 --> 01:09:41,560
Alabama, and I could listen to that guy talk forever. It's great. He's always like,

1138
01:09:41,560 --> 01:09:44,595
oh, Dave says I have an accent. I don't like you know, it's like, or

1139
01:09:44,595 --> 01:09:47,955
Dave Ramsey. There's another guy with an accent. Just just be

1140
01:09:47,955 --> 01:09:51,335
you. It's Yeah. Be be you. Be comfortable with it.

1141
01:09:51,859 --> 01:09:55,700
It it does, you know, does say, I think we can push

1142
01:09:55,700 --> 01:09:59,300
through. The brain will push through some of those things, but it won't push through

1143
01:09:59,300 --> 01:10:03,065
really bad audio. No. You know? So those are I think

1144
01:10:03,065 --> 01:10:06,585
those are 2 different things if you're getting bad audio. You know, I've I've

1145
01:10:06,585 --> 01:10:10,230
started podcasts where I've listened to them, and they it's obvious they were

1146
01:10:10,230 --> 01:10:13,369
recording in a big, big empty room with 1 microphone.

1147
01:10:14,389 --> 01:10:18,070
And I get 5 minutes in. I'm like, my brain cannot adapt to this.

1148
01:10:18,070 --> 01:10:21,355
But but all the other things, and I think you're right. I think we're really

1149
01:10:21,355 --> 01:10:24,795
good. Our brains are really good at adapting to that. And,

1150
01:10:25,755 --> 01:10:29,500
I I think we've been doing this long enough now. I mean, Dave,

1151
01:10:29,800 --> 01:10:33,429
maybe 50 or 75 years ago, accents were a thing.

1152
01:10:34,795 --> 01:10:38,555
Listen, we all in the global world, we all come with some kind of

1153
01:10:38,555 --> 01:10:41,810
whatever in the way we speak. We all do it a little bit different. And

1154
01:10:41,810 --> 01:10:45,570
I think I I don't think it needs to be a thing anymore. I think

1155
01:10:45,570 --> 01:10:49,250
we can just, like it just it's fine. I think we're

1156
01:10:49,250 --> 01:10:52,855
more self, yeah, I think we're more self conscious. I was listening to

1157
01:10:53,155 --> 01:10:56,915
the podcasting 2.0 show last night, and 1

1158
01:10:56,915 --> 01:11:00,330
of the developers from rss.com, I'm pretty sure is from

1159
01:11:00,330 --> 01:11:04,170
India. And he had an accent. And again, it takes you 2 seconds.

1160
01:11:04,170 --> 01:11:07,230
You're like, oh, that's okay. And, you know, there's

1161
01:11:08,265 --> 01:11:12,105
milliseconds of where you have to kinda like, oh, he said

1162
01:11:12,105 --> 01:11:15,785
aluminum instead of aluminum. You know what I mean? It's like but

1163
01:11:15,785 --> 01:11:19,430
it's it's not that big a deal. Oh, we know what they mean. Yeah. You

1164
01:11:19,430 --> 01:11:22,810
know? I mean, you're you're the first time you hear it, you might be like,

1165
01:11:23,190 --> 01:11:26,835
wait a minute. What what what does that mean? It's just like I

1166
01:11:26,835 --> 01:11:30,355
was over I was over in London giving a presentation, and

1167
01:11:30,355 --> 01:11:33,975
III mentioned something about warm ketchup.

1168
01:11:34,200 --> 01:11:37,800
What I meant was room temperature ketchup. But they were thinking, like, I

1169
01:11:37,800 --> 01:11:41,160
was warming up Heating it up. Putting it on the stove. Throw it in the

1170
01:11:41,160 --> 01:11:44,675
microwave. Like, pants mean different things to

1171
01:11:44,675 --> 01:11:48,435
them than they do to us. Right? But so you make a mistake, and

1172
01:11:48,435 --> 01:11:52,170
there's some giggles the first time. And people are like, oh, actually here, when we

1173
01:11:52,170 --> 01:11:55,470
say that, we mean this. And then you go like, oh, okay.

1174
01:11:56,090 --> 01:11:59,630
I'll work on like, it doesn't we can change,

1175
01:11:59,905 --> 01:12:03,685
especially in those environments. And then you go, okay. I'll work on saying that. Or

1176
01:12:04,385 --> 01:12:08,085
you just the the other thing the the other culture can adapt

1177
01:12:08,225 --> 01:12:11,450
to, you know, when when when people say,

1178
01:12:12,310 --> 01:12:15,510
I'm trying to think, you know, we call it a car. We call it a

1179
01:12:15,510 --> 01:12:18,975
trunk. We call it in America the trunk. The British call

1180
01:12:19,035 --> 01:12:21,995
it something else. I forget I forget what's going on. I know the hood is

1181
01:12:21,995 --> 01:12:25,700
the bonnet because I remember the 1 time this guy told me a story, and

1182
01:12:25,700 --> 01:12:29,220
he goes, I hit a stair and it flew up on my bonnet. There no.

1183
01:12:29,220 --> 01:12:32,660
I hit a stag, and it flew up on my bonnet. I'm like a stag.

1184
01:12:32,660 --> 01:12:36,235
Well, a stag is how I went to prom, and a bonnet is a

1185
01:12:36,235 --> 01:12:39,915
hat. And and I found out later he hit a deer and it flew up

1186
01:12:39,915 --> 01:12:43,275
on his hood. So, yeah, that's always fun. A boot. Yeah. Gary says a boot.

1187
01:12:43,275 --> 01:12:46,910
Yes. And so you you gosh. We're

1188
01:12:46,910 --> 01:12:49,550
we're smart enough to just go, oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. I get it. I

1189
01:12:49,550 --> 01:12:53,365
get what you're saying now. And so it doesn't we we don't all

1190
01:12:53,365 --> 01:12:56,565
have to say the same things. It has it doesn't all have to be said

1191
01:12:56,565 --> 01:13:00,200
the same. Right. You can we can we can do this

1192
01:13:00,260 --> 01:13:03,860
culturally. We can adapt. We don't need to make fun of it. We don't need

1193
01:13:03,860 --> 01:13:07,705
to, you know, we don't need to call it out. Just if you

1194
01:13:07,705 --> 01:13:10,665
know what it is oh, yeah. Okay. Yeah. No. I understand what you're saying. Let's

1195
01:13:10,665 --> 01:13:14,364
let's keep go let's go you know, let's keep going forward. So I think

1196
01:13:14,665 --> 01:13:18,380
because the you know, we've got so much communication going

1197
01:13:18,380 --> 01:13:22,060
on around the world, I think we can get past most of that

1198
01:13:22,060 --> 01:13:25,515
stuff. You know, accents and the different words for things. Doesn't have to be the

1199
01:13:25,515 --> 01:13:29,055
same. And I think we can stop calling it out in a lot of regards.

1200
01:13:29,115 --> 01:13:32,770
Yeah. Yeah. If we know what that means, say it. If we don't, say,

1201
01:13:32,929 --> 01:13:36,690
tell me tell me what that means. Yeah. You know, just say that

1202
01:13:36,690 --> 01:13:40,525
so you you have the clarity. And then remember it. What do you mean when

1203
01:13:40,525 --> 01:13:42,945
you say I'm a wanker? What does that mean?

1204
01:13:48,460 --> 01:13:51,580
Yeah. But yeah, I think a lot of that in the same way that we

1205
01:13:51,580 --> 01:13:55,335
hate the sound of our own voice. I think if we're, you

1206
01:13:55,335 --> 01:13:59,175
know, if we're doing English as a second language, those people get really

1207
01:13:59,175 --> 01:14:02,615
obsessed over their accent. I mean, I'm with you. I'm like, look, you I can

1208
01:14:02,615 --> 01:14:06,449
understand you. Let's move on, shall we? So yeah. Yeah. But Danny's

1209
01:14:06,449 --> 01:14:10,210
got kind of a it's adjacent, but still kind of talking about this. At

1210
01:14:10,210 --> 01:14:13,885
what point does the audio stop you from listening to what

1211
01:14:13,885 --> 01:14:17,425
might be really good content? And, again, I'm I'm not

1212
01:14:17,645 --> 01:14:21,170
throwing shade at Doctor, But towards the end of her little

1213
01:14:21,170 --> 01:14:24,790
segment there, it was getting worse. That would have been,

1214
01:14:25,090 --> 01:14:28,210
I'm out of here. And again, that wasn't her fault. We're not blaming her. It's

1215
01:14:28,210 --> 01:14:31,845
probably your PC kinda thing. But that, like, you know,

1216
01:14:31,845 --> 01:14:35,285
or if if if let's do this. If I kinda did

1217
01:14:35,285 --> 01:14:38,900
this, Orica, and you just yeah. Yeah. That's not gonna work.

1218
01:14:39,060 --> 01:14:42,739
So different if if the guest is really loud and the person is really

1219
01:14:42,739 --> 01:14:46,500
soft, anything else you can think of just Well, there I don't think there is

1220
01:14:46,500 --> 01:14:49,965
a point. I think because your mood can determine whether you're gonna continue to

1221
01:14:49,965 --> 01:14:53,805
listen to it or not. You there's been lately, I have just

1222
01:14:53,805 --> 01:14:57,440
really been struggling to listen to my to podcasts. Like, I

1223
01:14:57,440 --> 01:15:00,719
put them on. I'm like, I don't feel like I don't like, I've got a

1224
01:15:00,719 --> 01:15:04,400
lot of things going on right now. I don't feel like learning more at the

1225
01:15:04,400 --> 01:15:08,085
moment. So that can also be those that tolerance

1226
01:15:08,225 --> 01:15:12,005
can also be I don't I don't think you we could say 7.

1227
01:15:12,545 --> 01:15:16,210
What what point? Well, at 7, they stop listening. It doesn't I don't know if

1228
01:15:16,210 --> 01:15:19,970
it really, really works that way. There's a whole bunch of factors, including the

1229
01:15:19,970 --> 01:15:23,545
person's tolerance for what's going on and and the volume and what they're

1230
01:15:23,545 --> 01:15:26,985
listening to it on and all those kinds of things. But, I mean, I I

1231
01:15:26,985 --> 01:15:30,765
guess the point is make the best make it the best possible audio

1232
01:15:30,905 --> 01:15:34,380
quality you can. Listen to the feedback if you're getting

1233
01:15:34,380 --> 01:15:38,059
stuff, and and continue to hone your craft. I can't remember if it

1234
01:15:38,059 --> 01:15:41,905
was 7 or 17, but it was it was a ways.

1235
01:15:41,905 --> 01:15:45,685
And there was a guy that was it was tips for people that teach

1236
01:15:45,985 --> 01:15:49,770
computers, like computer software. And I'm like, this this episode was made

1237
01:15:49,770 --> 01:15:53,470
for me. And the guy came on and talked about how much

1238
01:15:53,610 --> 01:15:57,150
he loved Bob Seger or how much he hated Bob Seger.

1239
01:15:57,755 --> 01:16:01,514
And I was like, okay. But, like, the title is tips for

1240
01:16:01,514 --> 01:16:05,195
people that teach computers, you know, blah. And he just kept going on about

1241
01:16:05,195 --> 01:16:08,300
Bob Seger. And I just kept thinking, well, surely,

1242
01:16:08,840 --> 01:16:12,280
he's going to start talking about and it was I can't remember if it was

1243
01:16:12,280 --> 01:16:15,715
7 or it was a long time when I'm sitting there going, you gotta be

1244
01:16:15,715 --> 01:16:19,415
kidding me. And the audio was pretty bad.

1245
01:16:19,795 --> 01:16:23,235
And I remember thinking, I wouldn't listen to this except he's going to talk about

1246
01:16:23,235 --> 01:16:27,040
the thing I wanna hear. And whatever it was 7 or 17 at

1247
01:16:27,040 --> 01:16:30,239
1 point, I ejected because I was like, okay, he's not getting to the point.

1248
01:16:30,239 --> 01:16:33,920
And the audio was really bad. But, yeah, it's, you know,

1249
01:16:33,920 --> 01:16:37,685
and I I don't tie into this whole bit of, like, we

1250
01:16:37,685 --> 01:16:41,365
have short attention spans. I think what it is is we're much better

1251
01:16:41,365 --> 01:16:45,130
at diagnosing, like, when somebody's gonna waste

1252
01:16:45,130 --> 01:16:48,730
our time. And so you do have to kinda hook them at the

1253
01:16:48,730 --> 01:16:52,490
beginning. And that and that's to me. Try to get to watch the

1254
01:16:52,490 --> 01:16:56,335
video on YouTube when they were talking about STV, which is

1255
01:16:56,335 --> 01:17:00,014
seconds to value. And that's if you notice, I noticed a lot of the channels

1256
01:17:00,014 --> 01:17:03,550
I used to watch where they used to go, you know, big opening line

1257
01:17:03,550 --> 01:17:06,370
hook, yada yada yada, and then it'd be like, and

1258
01:17:07,310 --> 01:17:10,915
flashy graphics and blah, blah, blah. And like, that's gone. It's like, I think it's

1259
01:17:11,155 --> 01:17:14,915
Think Media. They literally put their logo up and

1260
01:17:14,915 --> 01:17:18,675
you hear somebody go, just press record. That's their opening, like,

1261
01:17:18,675 --> 01:17:22,420
sequence now. It's like really, really short. So that's always

1262
01:17:22,420 --> 01:17:26,199
fun. And, yes, Gary says breathers.

1263
01:17:26,340 --> 01:17:30,085
Here's the problem. I don't think a lot of times it's with breathers. It's that

1264
01:17:30,085 --> 01:17:33,605
somebody who has they're maybe they're a little too close to the mic. Maybe they

1265
01:17:33,605 --> 01:17:37,180
are a little bit of a breather, and then they run it through Auphonic. And

1266
01:17:37,180 --> 01:17:41,020
if you're breathing loud enough, Auphonic thinks it's a word. And

1267
01:17:41,020 --> 01:17:44,219
so all of a sudden, it's just I just had somebody, a friend of mine.

1268
01:17:44,219 --> 01:17:47,985
This was hard to do. Timothy Kim O'Brien does a show about finding

1269
01:17:47,985 --> 01:17:51,665
new podcast. And I said, Tim, you know I love

1270
01:17:51,665 --> 01:17:55,310
you. I said, but once

1271
01:17:55,310 --> 01:17:58,750
I hear this, I can't unhear it. And sometimes he would breathe

1272
01:17:58,750 --> 01:18:02,465
and, you know, people breathe. I always say, like, don't obsess over that. But

1273
01:18:02,465 --> 01:18:06,145
there are other times when it was literally, like, just super loud. And then

1274
01:18:06,145 --> 01:18:09,745
once I heard it, I couldn't unhear it. So that would and that I think

1275
01:18:09,745 --> 01:18:13,570
is not again Tim's problem. I think like, I don't think Tim is

1276
01:18:13,570 --> 01:18:17,110
Darth Vader. I think that's a case where all Phonic thought that was a word.

1277
01:18:17,730 --> 01:18:21,415
And its its goal is to make all the words the same level, and

1278
01:18:21,415 --> 01:18:25,175
it boosted his his breathing to where it was. So I I

1279
01:18:25,175 --> 01:18:28,534
think there was a time in this show, I remember going back years

1280
01:18:28,534 --> 01:18:32,310
ago, you were running this through you're running

1281
01:18:32,310 --> 01:18:36,150
the show here through some level or whatever that

1282
01:18:36,550 --> 01:18:40,295
whatever it was. And you were giving at the feed, and you were high, and

1283
01:18:40,295 --> 01:18:44,135
I was low, and it Yeah. It leveled me. It really changed my

1284
01:18:44,135 --> 01:18:47,940
breath. And you could Yeah. You know, in there, you could really

1285
01:18:48,080 --> 01:18:51,920
hear that. And and like you said, that's 1 of those things where

1286
01:18:51,920 --> 01:18:55,744
once I heard it, I could not Yeah. Hear it. Yeah. You know? And

1287
01:18:55,744 --> 01:18:59,585
I think we fixed that since then. But Yeah. The people do breathe. We do

1288
01:18:59,585 --> 01:19:03,390
take a breath when we're talking. So that does happen. You can't get all of

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that out. I guess you could go through and individually take out.

1290
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That would be so much work. Been there, done that. Yeah. I, for 1 of

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01:19:11,364 --> 01:19:15,125
my editing clients, had the same thing, and that's where I have

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to I'm I'm better at this now because I used to like, if I

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01:19:18,965 --> 01:19:22,690
could hear it, it wasn't quite so much. It was like Darth Vader

1294
01:19:22,690 --> 01:19:26,530
lite. And I was like, is this me being an

1295
01:19:26,530 --> 01:19:30,115
obsessive podcast listener, or is that actually gonna be So

1296
01:19:31,975 --> 01:19:35,695
we're talking to people when

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01:19:35,695 --> 01:19:38,900
we're spending time with people at a party, we So We're talking to people when

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we're spending time with people at a party, we don't say to them, stop breathing.

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I'm hearing you breathe. Right. Like, it's just a part of it's just a

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01:19:46,485 --> 01:19:50,244
part of what we do. You know, it's a part of life. God, get get

1301
01:19:50,244 --> 01:19:53,870
past that in some in some regards. If you're it also is

1302
01:19:53,870 --> 01:19:57,150
super weird. I edited a podcast 1 time, and it took out all they didn't

1303
01:19:57,150 --> 01:20:00,210
like the breathing. And I took it all out, and it was

1304
01:20:00,685 --> 01:20:04,525
eerie. Like, you'd listen to it, and you're like, this doesn't sound it sounds

1305
01:20:04,525 --> 01:20:08,364
AI is what it is what it sounds like. That's kinda 1 of those things

1306
01:20:08,364 --> 01:20:11,770
you can tell an AI voice because there's no breathing in it.

1307
01:20:12,630 --> 01:20:16,390
Yeah. Danny says podcasters can also help make their guests sound

1308
01:20:16,390 --> 01:20:19,415
awesome with some post production. I have a Debreath plug in

1309
01:20:19,975 --> 01:20:23,735
that I use. And sometimes, the thing I hate about it is it will

1310
01:20:23,735 --> 01:20:27,530
work great 95% of the time. And then there's 1

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01:20:27,530 --> 01:20:31,230
word that somebody raises their voice or to different, like,

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01:20:32,330 --> 01:20:36,175
actual like, the the note of it is a little higher. So

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01:20:36,175 --> 01:20:39,855
it's now into the range. Glyca breath is probably up around the 10 k

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01:20:39,855 --> 01:20:43,440
range if we get our nerd on. And now they're talking up there, and so

1315
01:20:43,440 --> 01:20:47,120
the stupid breath thing takes out half the word. And you're like, ugh. You know?

1316
01:20:47,120 --> 01:20:50,720
And so it's it's, again, it's a a fun thing.

1317
01:20:51,040 --> 01:20:54,385
Dan says, I think it's similar to listening to bad audio.

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01:20:54,765 --> 01:20:58,605
We don't need we don't need we don't oh, yeah. We

1319
01:20:58,605 --> 01:21:01,219
don't need long to know it's something that we can listen to or not. Yeah.

1320
01:21:01,219 --> 01:21:04,739
You can usually tell right up front. As soon as I hear it's some it's

1321
01:21:04,739 --> 01:21:08,345
2 people on a Blue Yeti in a room with it set up to go

1322
01:21:08,345 --> 01:21:11,225
pick up in every direction. I'm like, yep. And we're out of here. Like, I

1323
01:21:11,225 --> 01:21:14,905
can smell that a 1000000 miles away. So Dan also

1324
01:21:14,905 --> 01:21:18,670
says they've added he was listening to some voices in 11 Labs, and they've added

1325
01:21:18,730 --> 01:21:22,490
breathing to those voices to make them sound a little more Oh,

1326
01:21:22,490 --> 01:21:26,215
nice. Could you imagine okay. Let's think in a in a alternate world

1327
01:21:26,215 --> 01:21:29,915
where we have we have robots that are speaking to us,

1328
01:21:30,380 --> 01:21:34,060
And they add in they don't need to breathe. Right? They

1329
01:21:34,140 --> 01:21:37,980
but they add in the breath to make it feel and sound more

1330
01:21:37,980 --> 01:21:41,665
human. Could you imagine how I mean, they would have to. Right? It's

1331
01:21:41,665 --> 01:21:45,505
like when Tesla before Tesla and other there there were other there

1332
01:21:45,505 --> 01:21:49,285
were EVs before Tesla. But Yeah. There's been some talk about

1333
01:21:49,600 --> 01:21:53,360
initially adding some engine noise to EVs so

1334
01:21:53,360 --> 01:21:56,880
that people can hear them coming because you don't hear you know, there's no engine

1335
01:21:56,880 --> 01:22:00,545
noise. But what if we we added some engine noise when it was around

1336
01:22:00,545 --> 01:22:03,844
people so people would know they're there? I mean, that's kind of weird. Right? But

1337
01:22:04,144 --> 01:22:07,690
so I I imagine an Android or a a robot

1338
01:22:07,690 --> 01:22:10,590
that's added breathing.

1339
01:22:11,610 --> 01:22:15,070
That would be so weird. Yeah. The gator says,

1340
01:22:15,415 --> 01:22:19,175
that moment when you hear your guest and you think, gonna be a long

1341
01:22:19,175 --> 01:22:22,695
night of post editing. Yeah. I've been there with that. Speaking of

1342
01:22:22,695 --> 01:22:26,360
of weird robot stuff, it's not gonna let me see it.

1343
01:22:26,360 --> 01:22:30,060
I was looking at a book. It was something like words

1344
01:22:31,080 --> 01:22:34,895
that compel or whatever stupid thing it was, and it's not

1345
01:22:34,895 --> 01:22:38,195
gonna but anyway, I I look for it in Audible

1346
01:22:38,335 --> 01:22:42,119
because I have the Audible account that gives you audiobooks. And I was like,

1347
01:22:42,119 --> 01:22:45,880
oh. And it was like a condensed version of this. And I

1348
01:22:45,880 --> 01:22:49,715
hit play, and the first thing I heard was an ad. And I'm like,

1349
01:22:49,775 --> 01:22:53,375
that's weird for an audiobook, and it wasn't an ad for

1350
01:22:53,375 --> 01:22:56,930
Audible. And then the narrator

1351
01:22:57,310 --> 01:23:01,070
came on, and it was so blatantly AI. And I was like, is

1352
01:23:01,070 --> 01:23:04,625
this what people are doing now? We're just gonna, like, come up with

1353
01:23:04,625 --> 01:23:08,225
a summary of it, let AI read it, and then get paid

1354
01:23:08,225 --> 01:23:11,850
from Spotify, which is next to nothing from what I hear. Because, you know, they're

1355
01:23:11,850 --> 01:23:15,690
they're known for paying their artists so much money. And

1356
01:23:15,690 --> 01:23:19,375
I just thought, wow, that's that's okay. And then do you

1357
01:23:19,375 --> 01:23:21,855
look at how much we're gonna be doing on time? We can do this in

1358
01:23:21,855 --> 01:23:25,455
3 minutes. Jim, do you look at reviews? I usually don't look at reviews for

1359
01:23:25,455 --> 01:23:29,250
podcasts, but I do on books because I've only got so many credits.

1360
01:23:29,250 --> 01:23:32,950
Yeah. Or before I buy something or what Yeah. What's the criteria?

1361
01:23:33,170 --> 01:23:36,824
Yeah. If you buy I guess, in this case, I'd be buying an audiobook. Yeah.

1362
01:23:36,824 --> 01:23:40,445
I'll I'll I'll take a look. Well, I I don't buy audiobooks,

1363
01:23:40,585 --> 01:23:44,340
but I use generally, I use reviews. If I'm gonna be buying something, I'll

1364
01:23:44,420 --> 01:23:47,860
take a quick look at the reviews just to see if it's a a

1365
01:23:47,860 --> 01:23:51,699
sham or if it's, you know, if somebody's got some I don't I

1366
01:23:51,699 --> 01:23:55,165
don't believe everything that's in the review, both

1367
01:23:55,165 --> 01:23:58,925
positive and negative. But, yeah, I'll take a look at the reviews. Yeah.

1368
01:23:58,925 --> 01:24:02,350
Because I was gonna buy this book, then I went to Amazon.

1369
01:24:02,730 --> 01:24:06,090
And I always look at the 4 star reviews and the 2 star reviews

1370
01:24:06,090 --> 01:24:09,724
because they're usually a little more descriptive. And the 2

1371
01:24:09,724 --> 01:24:13,105
star 1, the 1 was like it's it's really

1372
01:24:13,645 --> 01:24:17,490
this guy talks about some sort of software around whatever

1373
01:24:17,490 --> 01:24:21,330
it is, neuro linguistic programming, and they said it's really

1374
01:24:21,330 --> 01:24:25,135
a mild advertisement for this guy's software. And I saw a couple people

1375
01:24:25,135 --> 01:24:28,815
mention that. And then the people that really liked the book were

1376
01:24:28,815 --> 01:24:32,655
really super nerdy about NLP. And I was like, yeah, this is not the the

1377
01:24:32,655 --> 01:24:35,770
book for me. So I was just like, hey. Look at that. A review actually,

1378
01:24:36,550 --> 01:24:40,090
you know, influenced me to not buy that book, or

1379
01:24:40,325 --> 01:24:44,085
I can get the ebook. And I talked about this in my last episode of

1380
01:24:44,085 --> 01:24:47,660
The School of Podcasting. I can actually get that ebook from the

1381
01:24:47,660 --> 01:24:51,420
library. So why spend money on something you can get for free? And

1382
01:24:51,420 --> 01:24:55,180
the library's fun. I I haven't been to the downtown. I wanna contact my

1383
01:24:55,180 --> 01:24:58,975
local library. I'm going on vacation in a couple weeks. We're still doing

1384
01:24:58,975 --> 01:25:01,455
the show and stuff, but I'm gonna take a vacation. And that's 1 of the

1385
01:25:01,455 --> 01:25:04,985
things I have on my list is contact the local library about kind of a

1386
01:25:05,400 --> 01:25:09,239
not so much how to podcast, but how to listen to podcasts because what

1387
01:25:09,239 --> 01:25:12,760
we need is more listeners. So that's what I'll be working on

1388
01:25:12,760 --> 01:25:16,425
in the future. And, Jim, speaking of the future, what's coming

1389
01:25:16,425 --> 01:25:20,105
up on Home gadget Geeks? Yeah. Ed Sullivan from Sonic

1390
01:25:20,105 --> 01:25:23,645
Cupcake. You know him from Sonic Cupcake. I know him from the Cigar Authority.

1391
01:25:24,050 --> 01:25:27,730
He's on the show. He got an iPad Pro M4. The newest

1392
01:25:27,730 --> 01:25:31,090
1 just came out about a month ago. Talked about how he used it on

1393
01:25:31,090 --> 01:25:34,885
vacation. We spent some some time why. And at the

1394
01:25:34,885 --> 01:25:38,505
end of the show, Ed predicts my next Mac

1395
01:25:38,565 --> 01:25:42,410
purchase. So is that a is that a little hook? A little cliffhanger? That

1396
01:25:42,410 --> 01:25:46,090
is a hook. Get get some story arc. You can get it. It's

1397
01:25:46,090 --> 01:25:49,925
already published. It's out there. Home gadgetgeeks.com. And the fun thing

1398
01:25:49,925 --> 01:25:53,685
is because it's Saturday and it's coming out Monday. I'm not sure

1399
01:25:53,685 --> 01:25:57,409
what the friends. Leading challenge. Woah. Okay. Leading

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01:25:57,409 --> 01:26:00,770
June weight loss challenge with 2 days left. Okay.

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01:26:00,770 --> 01:26:04,050
Thanks. I'm I'm in a in a weight loss challenge with a bunch of friends.

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01:26:04,050 --> 01:26:07,585
Thanks. So, yeah, The good news is I figured out how to get Siri to

1403
01:26:07,585 --> 01:26:11,425
tell me when my meetings are coming up. And apparently, anything that pops up on

1404
01:26:11,425 --> 01:26:15,070
my screen, I'll I I thought I do have do not disturb. Nope. Do not

1405
01:26:15,070 --> 01:26:16,863
disturb is turned off because it's 12 o'clock. There you go. But I on the

1406
01:26:16,863 --> 01:26:17,730
school of podcasting, I think I'm gonna do an episode on how much

1407
01:26:22,855 --> 01:26:26,615
I spend to make the school of podcasting. Somebody asked me that question and I

1408
01:26:26,615 --> 01:26:30,375
was like, But in that, explain that this is

1409
01:26:30,375 --> 01:26:33,960
me 19 years into it. And I didn't start

1410
01:26:33,960 --> 01:26:37,560
this. Like, I didn't start with video and cameras and all that stuff. I started

1411
01:26:37,560 --> 01:26:40,435
and worked my way up. I think that's where we're going on the school of

1412
01:26:40,435 --> 01:26:43,875
podcasting. I have a list of, like, when you don't know what you're gonna do,

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01:26:43,875 --> 01:26:46,995
here are the top issues you could do for the school of podcasting. So that's

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01:26:46,995 --> 01:26:50,719
coming up. We are here every Saturday morning, unless I'm on the

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01:26:50,719 --> 01:26:54,320
road, or if Jim's off saving the world, it's always ask the podcast

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