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There's something so profound to me about deep, innate, ingrained in a person power that they just either can't control or don't realize that they have.
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I mean, why would I play a human in a world where elves and gnomes and tieflings exist?
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So, friendship is magic.
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A thousand percent, friendship is magic.
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Found Family is my absolute favorite trope of all time.
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Friends, welcome to Characters Without Stories, a TTRPG podcast about the roads not yet traveled.
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I'm Star.
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This episode I'm joined by Savannah Rayne.
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Savannah is an RP enthusiast, art witch, and podcaster.
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While relatively new to TTRPGs, she has been making original characters and building their worlds and their stories outside of game spaces pretty much her entire life.
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Savannah, do you want to tell us a little bit about yourself?
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Yeah, like you said, I am very new to like TTRPG spaces, but pretty much since I was like 11 years old, I've been doing like little roleplays and stuff with my friends, I make OCs, I was definitely into like, RP accounts on Tumblr and stuff like that, pretty much forever.
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And now I've had this sudden like, emergence into the TTRPG spaces, and everyone is like, super welcoming, so I'm like, oh, this is, this is my people now.
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Yeah, I'm very new, but I'm immediately, I'm just like, okay, I'm in it, let's go, let's do something.
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Yeah, I felt the same way.
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It's funny because I first played TTRPGs, I played Rifts like 25 years ago, once, and then never played until like, I don't know, four years ago or something.
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And then I was like, this is it.
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Yeah.
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Amazing.
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So I get that.
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Yeah.
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What did you start with?
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Did you start with D&D?
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I started with D&D, yeah, and I actually, so I just moved into the house that I live in now, which is my friend's house, and she was the one who introduced me to D&D.
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Her partner was the DM of their campaign, and I came over just, like, for the snacks, you know?
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I was just here just to hang out, just to, like, I had hung out for their game nights, like, a couple of times, but I was just there to, like, vibe for a little bit, and, um, while they were setting up for their Uh, session.
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They were like, oh, well, you know, Savannah, in our last session, we found this giant lizard.
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You can play the giant lizard if you want.
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And so it was just three hours of just me going, [lizard sounds] Like it was just that.
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It was so fun.
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And my, I love telling this story because my very first role, in my very first D&D session ever, was a natural one.
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It was awesome.
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It was because I was a lizard.
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What the role was, it's even more poetic.
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Another player was saying, Oh, I want to go up to Squishy and see if I can like, feed the lizard, because it was like a wild animal that they had just found.
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So, Z, the DM, he was like, Alright, you make animal handling and Squishy insight.
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I rolled a natural 1 and he rolled a natural 20.
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And it was beautiful.
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And just that alone was like, I'm sold on this game.
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That's so funny.
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Yeah, sometimes the dice tell the story.
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Absolutely, yeah.
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Up until then, I had actually, I watched a lot of D&D like content.
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I started by listening to Fantasy High on Dimension 20, still absolutely love Dimension 20, and then I got into listening to Legends of Avantris, and now I'm just anyone who has an actual play podcast, I'm like, give me your content.
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But yeah, I started with that and then I went and had that session and it was a blast.
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Then a friend of mine, who Started a campaign, and now officially my first campaign that I ever was in started back in like July of last year.
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Wow, okay.
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So, Savannah, who are you bringing to the table today?
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I am bringing Kit.
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Uh, she doesn't really have a last name, but she is my pirate witch character.
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So this is for D&D, correct?
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Yes.
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So she, originally, because I only just started playing D&D very recently, I have started looking back on all of these, like, OCs that I've had, like, private RP with, done cosplay, or That I've had over, like, the years.
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And I start thinking like, oh, which of these characters would be great for a campaign?
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Which would be awesome, like, I would love to play her.
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And immediately, the first answer that came to mind was Kit.
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And I would absolutely love to put her in a campaign at any stage of her life.
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Cause the RP that I've had that kind of dictates what her, like, canon is.
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At any point in that time, I would love to just stick her at any level of her power into a campaign, because it would be so cool.
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So what kind of RP have you had with Kit?
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So, Kit was originally designed back in, like, 2019, I think I started on TikTok.
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You can't find any of my cosplay content anymore because I've privated all of it.
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But I used to do cosplay content, but specifically for original characters.
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Because it's just been easier for me to be like, Well, I can just design this character and I can make it really quickly, usually out of things I already own, or I can like go to a thrift store really quick and grab the stuff I need for it.
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And so, a good friend of mine, Candle Bandit, on social media, has this like pirate character, and I was like, Oh, he's cool.
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I want to do a character that will like, be on his crew, or like go along with his story a little bit.
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So I kind of reached out to Finn and I was like, Hey, let's talk about a character.
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Here's my idea.
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And it kind of went from there and it's all been private role plays.
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So the actual storyline is just written over text between me and that friend.
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And so it's just kind of us writing the story together, but I would make, you know, TikToks of just her being funny or, like, audios that I thought would fit with her, or interesting little, like, plot points that we had in the story I thought would be really good on video, so I would make little clips and things like that for her.
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Very cool.
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So, what got you started with Kit?
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Was it something in your wardrobe that inspired you, or was there another starting point?
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It was Finn posting cosplay content of their original character, uh, Julian, who's a pirate captain.
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And I was like, well, that looks cool.
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Like, wait, I want to do a pirate character.
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I can make a pirate cosplay really quickly.
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And it was that.
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And then I just kind of went from there, and I was like, okay, what do I have that's already kind of piratey?
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And I think it was around like Halloween, so I was able to easily go to like Spirit Halloween and grab some accessories and yeah, and then I just went to, went to a thrift store, grabbed like a good billowy kind of shirt for it, tied a little sash around my waist, put a headband on.
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The hardest thing to find for her character was actually the wig, because her character has like really big kind of reddish brown kind of bushy hair.
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I called it my Hermione wig for the longest time because that's what it looked like.
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But yeah, the hardest thing was finding the wig, but I lived in California at the time and.
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Honestly, it was not hard because there was a lot of like costume shops where I live and so I was able to go in and find like, oh, that looks like I could do something piratey with it and, um, without getting too much into it, I was able to put on the wig and just put a headband on over the hairline.
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So that I didn't have to spend too much time, like, gluing was a lace front and I don't know anything about how to put wigs on, so.
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How lazy can I do this?
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How quickly?
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So when you first imagined Kit, sounds like you started with "pirate".
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Where did it go from there?
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Almost all of my characters, uh, have something magical or witchy or some kind of power behind them.
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Because I, you know, as my name on Instagram suggests, I am the DIY witch.
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I consider myself an art witch.
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I practice witchcraft kind of in my regular life.
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And so I try and incorporate magic or sorcery of some kind into almost all of my characters.
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It's kind of really funny because at this point, my friend who now DMs one of the campaigns I'm in has told me, your next character has to be a human fighter.
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Like, you're not allowed to do magic anymore.
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I love having characters who are incredibly powerful but don't realize it.
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Maybe they don't know how to control it or they don't, they haven't unlocked that part of their power yet.
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Which is why I think I really like playing sorcerers.
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So I have one warlock but the other two campaigns I'm in are both sorcerers.
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And then looking at Kit and being like, well, What class would she be?
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Obviously, she would be a sorcerer.
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That's just what I love.
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But there's something so profound to me about deep, innate, ingrained in a person power that they just either can't control or don't realize that they have.
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Like they don't know the extent of it and that's kind of it with Kit.
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Her whole story is very much about she thinks that her power is dangerous and she, she tries not to use it but eventually through being a part of this like pirate crew she learns how to like really control it and really harness it into who she is and she becomes just as powerful and I love that about her.
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Yeah, I am also a fan of the sorcerer who does not, does not realize their power or thinks their power is dangerous.
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So much fun.
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This is like, at least two of my characters.
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Because I make original characters, like OCs for, I make them for everything.
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Every piece of media, movie, show, TTRPG podcasts that I listen to.
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I've made an OC for it, just how, how it goes, and, uh, there's one OC that I have for one of the podcasts I'm obsessing over right now that is heavily inspired by Kit in that same kind of vein of just like you are very powerful and you do not know it and you are scared of it.
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Yeah, I, I like the self actualization stories that sorcerers can give.
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There's, there's something really powerful about a character finding their power and learning how to, to work with what they have at their disposal.
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Yeah.
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As someone who practices witchcraft in, in my real life, that hits so close to home for me because, you know, I grew up Christian, I grew up in the South and, you know, Very much like when I left the church and when I found my faith and my power, there's something just eye opening about that entire feeling of just like, oh, I have this ability to like be my own creator and create my own life, create my own story, my own path.
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And there's something just so empowering and like, I'm getting chills talking about it because like you literally feel it in your blood.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, definitely.
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Would you say that this is the kind of thing that you usually do with characters in terms of bringing in aspects of yourself and your story?
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Absolutely.
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I have a few characters that I, that I would say I, like, don't identify with, I didn't put any of myself into, but for the most part, almost all my characters have something, something to do with an aspect of my life.
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Maybe not, like, everything about me, it's not, like, a self insert, but I will find something to identify with my characters.
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If only just that.
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because it helps me to connect with them and it helps me to play them or write them better because I can identify and agree with this thing that they're going through.
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Whether it is a metaphor for masking your neurodivergency or the coming out queer experience or finding your spiritual faith, some kind of aspect about my life or something that I can identify with goes into my characters.
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Because it helps me to connect with them as a person, like that character, but also it just helps me to tell that story very well and to tell that experience maybe from a different viewpoint or from a different background, but it's still that experience seen from different eyes.
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Is this something that you do consciously or subconsciously?
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Sometimes.
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It, it really just depends.
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Sometimes it is conscious.
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Sometimes I'll be like, hey, I want to write a character who is queer and is having to struggle with figuring out what their identity is because that's something that I'm going through at the time that I'm making this character.
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But then there will be some times where I'll just make this character, think that this story is really cool.
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And then as I'm writing it, I'm like, Ooh, I gotta call my therapist real quick.
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That was, that made me hit too close to home.
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That was, no, I, I didn't mean to do that.
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Besides this, uh, approach, this kind of sorcerer approach that you're talking about in your personal faith.
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Is there anything else about Kit that really rings true for you and your personal experience?
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I mean, quite a bit.
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I mean, she absolutely has some masking that she had to really, like, get through and really, which I'm realizing as I'm saying out loud is like, oh, that's totally not an autism metaphor, good to know, you know what I mean?
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Her backstory is that she grew up as a con artist, like her parents were con artists, she was raised in that life, and she was just really good at it, and she kept that up.
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She got married really young, fell in love with this guy, and, but they were hard on money, so she kept doing her con artist thing, and her con was that she was a psychic, quote unquote.
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You know, she was one of those, like, fake snake oil salesmen type of people, but she would, like, sell potions or fortunes and things like that, and she didn't believe in it at the time.
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She had a customer come up to her who was a real witch.
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And basically was completely insulted that she would make a mockery of the arcane arts and cursed her with magical abilities.
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She goes, alright, you're going to act like you have these abilities, let's see how you do with the actual abilities and gave her them.
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Her story does get kind of dark because what happened was that there was this big accident, she accidentally killed her husband and had to go on the run.
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And had to run, hide, so that she wouldn't, like, get arrested.
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and ended up finding herself on a pirate ship.
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But to do that, she ended up pulling her hair up and her name was Catherine.
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But when she had to go on the run, she changed her name to Kit and pretended to be a boy.
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And so very much there was like a level of masking of she had to pretend to be this boy named Kit.
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Every time things got too intense on the ship, every time something odd or weird and people started questioning things happened, she would jump ship on the next port and find the next ship to go on to.
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And absolutely, like, the more I think about it and the more I describe it, the more it feels like, yeah, the second things start getting too real or too intense, I will, like, leave a friend group because I'm like, oh, that's too real.
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I will, like, start to pull back from social situations because I'm like, that's, That's too close, because you're gonna, you're gonna learn something, you know?
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So her story is that she eventually finds the ship, the crew that is run by my friend's captain character, and through them and through actually being discovered, being discovered as, who she is as she keeps the name Kit but she lets her hair down and she starts like being herself and then they start noticing her magic and she has to again kind of hide that but the captain he is very much like let's see what you can do and she is able to really harness that power she's able to find out who she is what she can do and it's all through the power of just like unmasking and being accepted and understanding, like, who she is and saying, not only can this be useful, but also you've become such a valued member that you're just a part of the family now, you're a part of the crew.
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So friendship is magic.
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A thousand percent friendship is magic.
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Found family is my absolute favorite trope of all time.
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There is something so good and intimate and comforting about people who are like, Hey, you're our family because we chose you.
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Like we want you here.
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And I think that's so cool.
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Yeah, definitely.
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I think that that idea is almost baked in to D&D, that you meet in a tavern, like you form an adventuring party, this ragtag group, and by the end of it, you're all best friends.
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Yeah, absolutely.
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And I think too, within the community, like on a meta level outside of the game, that a lot of people who play TTRPGs, you know, coming from like nerd spaces, maybe aren't accepted, or maybe are neurodivergent or queer.
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And are struggling maybe with being accepted and find a safe space in TTRPGs.
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Oh yeah.
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Like, I'm still completely shocked about how much the TTRPG community saw me and was like, That one.
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We want that one in our space.
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Like, we want that one in our community.
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I jumped onto Threads because of, I had seen a bunch of people posting on it, and then one of my friends, I saw him post it, and I was like, you know what, alright, fine, I've seen a lot of people, let's jump on and see, and it was Johnny from Talking XP.
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I had chatted with him.
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I was like, Hey, I, you know, I'm about to start listening to your podcast.
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You're really cool.
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Let's be friends.
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We started like being friends and then I saw him post on thread.
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So I jumped on and immediately he posted, Hey, Savannah's cool.
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Go follow her.
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I was very shocked.
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And then I posted something about my podcast.
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Instantly, I got a massive response and it was almost all TTRPG creators.
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And I was just like, oh, oh, you guys popped off with this one.
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Okay, cool.
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I guess I'm a part of this group now.
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And it's very much, honestly, very much similar to Kit's experience of like, oh, this is my crew now.
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Like, these are my people.
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They saw me, saw that, hey, what you're doing is really cool.
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We want you on our side.
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And Kit was very shocked and surprised and kind of nervous.
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And I am the same way.
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I'm like, oh, all right.
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What?
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You know, I think there are still people who have problems entering the space.
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I think there are probably, there's still some people who are not as welcoming, especially to women or to people who aren't white.
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So I don't want to gloss over that, but in my experience, not having played until very recently, I feel that it's been a very welcoming space.
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Oh, absolutely.
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I can only speak to my experience and speak to what I've seen and been through with it.
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And I've had nothing but positive.
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And all I can say is like, I'm going to be that person for other people.
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If someone is like, I'm new, I don't know what I'm doing.
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I'm like, cool, come here.
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Gonna be the person that goes up to the kids sitting alone at lunch and says, Hey, come on over to my table.
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I always have been.
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Absolutely.
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Because I was that kid that was sitting alone.
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And so now I'm like, hey, hey.
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You, you want to be friends?
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Fantastic.
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So Kit has been basically in drag as a man.
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for a long time.
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Is she cis?
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Is this gender exploration for her at all, or is this merely costume?
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It very much was merely costume for her.
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She is cis, and I think the reason for it is because that was before I started exploring my own gender, being non binary, and for her, it was very much like, I'm just doing what I have to do to survive, and her, I guess, gender, like, euphoria for her, Was being able to embrace her femininity again and being able to be like no I can be on this ship I can be in this space that all of these guys are saying Oh, it's bad luck for a woman to be on a pirate ship or it's bad luck for a woman to be on the ship Basically her saying I am welcome here.
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This is my space As soon as she accepted it in herself, she really did.
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She became, like, absolute girl boss.
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And we love that for her.
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Wonderful.
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Hi, I'm Shardae.
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And I'm Lyssa.
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So tell me about Kit's relationship with Julian.
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When she made it onto his ship and she was still very much like in her disguise and everything, the scene that I had written with who plays Julian, what we had basically established was there was some kind of like raid there were these two rival ship and there was this big fight and julian got thrown overboard and everyone thought oh the fight is lost.
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And while everybody else, the whole crew, was retreating and going back to the ship, Kit, without even thinking, jumped overboard after him and grabbed him.
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And so while everybody else in the crew was retreating, she went and saved him.
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And when she, you know, was able to grab him and say like, Hey, get us up here, like, get us back onto the ship, they did.
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I mean, she saved his life and she was soaking wet and she was like, oh, someone give me a towel.
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Someone cover me up.
