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In this crossover episode of Chatting with Candice, Candice Horbacz Dave Landau, Bridget Phetasy, and Gerard Michaels, they discuss cancel culture and how comedy has changed, with comedians now expected to adhere to specific political ideologies. They also touch on current events, such as transgender athletes in women's sports, the fame of Hawk Thua girl, and share anecdotes about their experiences in the comedy world. The conversation is lighthearted and humorous, with the comedians making jokes throughout.
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0 (0s): Is that on camera? 1 (2s): Yeah, we'll just, we'll just learn to keep that for sure. That'll be the opening clip. 2 (5s): I really don't care. Let's fucking say it. 0 (7s): Whitney 3 (8s): Just had the Tua girl on and they called Matt Rife. 1 (12s): She's actually crushing her 15 minutes though. Like 3 (15s): She's an American hero. She said 0 (16s): She's spinning a dick and they're bringing her up on concerts. Like she's a cancer kid. 1 (22s): Jesus. 4 (24s): Have you ever seen the video where the guy shows ladyboys American trans men and they're like, 2 (29s): Haha. It's like they're not even trying 1 (33s): Like a sprinter today. That was all over x. Full package on display. Ran as a man until 45 is now like 50 something. Decided to run as a woman. 0 (42s): Can you imagine trying to hide a cock in the Special 1 (45s): Olympics? Not even trying. No. You 0 (46s): Can see it. But I think we need to bring back the Italian mob, as I've said many times, 5 (50s): And tell all your other queer friends, they could do whatever they want at the bars, the elementary schools off limits 1 (1m 2s): On this special episode. Was 2 (1m 3s): That on camera? 0 (1m 5s): Yeah. 1 (1m 5s): We'll, we'll just we're to keep that for sure. That'll be the opening clip. 2 (1m 9s): Not do 0 (1m 9s): That. I would aggressive. I would love it if you did that regardless if they know what we're talking about or not, bro. Not even, not even the threat, just the actual, 2 (1m 19s): I really don't care. Let's fucking say it. You imagine how many views I'd get if I just fucking beat this shit out of everybody on Kill Tony. Like went up there for my one minute and just took it as like, all right, motherfuckers, before you say anything, look at how close I am to you. How big I am, and how many views I will get for coming across the table. 0 (1m 37s): Best consider Matt. Matt Rife's. Got a million dollar chin though. You gotta be real careful. 3 (1m 43s): Is 1 (1m 44s): It insured? 0 (1m 46s): It's gotta be insured. A million 2 (1m 47s): Dollar 0 (1m 47s): Chin. Yeah. More than that. 2 (1m 49s): That's just in the executive. Come that's fucking dried on. 0 (1m 52s): Oh, I'm sure. Oh my God, I, I don't know. I'm going say I don't know anything about that. Do 1 (1m 57s): You find him pretty Who or attractive? Matt rif. 3 (1m 59s): You know what's funny is that I said that Dane Cooks. No, I don't. But I found, I said Dane Cooks comedy sucked a long time ago on Twitter when I had like 200 followers and then I had a naked Abey at the time. And so he retweeted it and it was like how I got the beginning of my Twitter addiction. 'cause I got tons of followers from people. I was like, you know what, you're comedy sucks, asshole. How about that? And I was saying it in like a Rhode Island tone. I was like, aren't we both from ma, aren't we mass assholes here? And it was like days of people telling me that I bad grammar all of his audience coming after me telling me that I sucked. And one of those people 0 (2m 39s): Giving you the double finger, 3 (2m 40s): One of those people is Matt Rife. Somebody pointed it out a young wait, his old, 0 (2m 47s): His twin Matt 2 (2m 48s): Rife wanted to be Dane Cook. 3 (2m 50s): He w he said something like, I can't remember. I I still have it. I still have the screenshot of the tweet 'cause I saved all these screenshots. And someone's like, oh look, that's Matt Rife's old, like old Twitter account that apparently he is like blown up. Yeah, it's him talking shit to me and I never even noticed it. 1 (3m 9s): That's hysterical. 2 (3m 10s): That's really funny. All my old stuff is just gonna be me being a domestic terrorist. So like, fuck. That's interesting. So to answer, manifest, manifest, you know, like fucking see it, dream it, be it. 0 (3m 20s): I met him, he was very nice. Every time I've met him and then he also, I like, it's like a book. You Dave, I, oh, I don't, I don't, I don't want to. What am I gonna do? Bury him. Different 3 (3m 29s): Audiences, 1 (3m 30s): Different fan base. 2 (3m 31s): You gonna flirt with him the whole time? 0 (3m 33s): Yeah. Yeah. I have. I've no in, yeah, I just, oh, hey, what's up buddy? Can I, 2 (3m 37s): You think you're good enough to be with me? 0 (3m 39s): Can I touch your abs? 3 (3m 40s): Is he TikTok famous? Is that the thing? 2 (3m 42s): He's, he is like, Dane Cook is like definitely a parallel. Like he did what TikTok, what Dane did with MySpace 3 (3m 48s): For sure. For sure. Oh, interesting. Yeah, 0 (3m 50s): I worked with him at the comedy store like a year and a half ago and I thought he was just a kid and I didn't whatever. Just a nice, some open micr. And then he walked out and there was like early twenties girls going ape shit. And I was like, oh, this is interesting. And then the other half were in louder with Crowder shirts. So they were just like, they were like obese. 1 (4m 13s): The two, 2 (4m 13s): The two forces. It's like that picture, picture genders in the ocean when like, you know where the, where the fresh water meets the salt water and one's brown and one's clear. We just followed him at, me and Caroline were at Kansas City Funny Bone the weekend after he was there. Okay. And, and there was crazy stories. We were like kind of almost like bragging a little bit. We're like, you ever seen a mean greet line this big? They were like, we had Matt Rife last weekend. I'm like, oh. They were like, women legitimately showed up without a ticket in wedding dresses. 1 (4m 47s): No way. Yes. See I don't get it. I don't like, my men pretty like he's, he's like really pretty and like femme and I just don't, I'm not attracted to men like that. I see it and I'm 3 (4m 58s): Just, did you see Whitney had him on her Po had hot girl, girl on. He was pretty man. 1 (5m 2s): Not like that. He is like a beard and he's not like that. He is pretty but he is not like that pretty. He 0 (5m 8s): Looks like Angelina Jo Lee. Yes. Yeah. Yes. 1 (5m 12s): Yeah. 0 (5m 12s): He really does. Nailed it. 3 (5m 13s): Yeah. That 2 (5m 14s): Well now I wanna fuck my rife. 0 (5m 16s): Well that's 2 (5m 17s): Weird. This is like a sea of emotion that 0 (5m 19s): I never said I didn't, 3 (5m 22s): She Whitney just had the Hawk Tua girl on and they called Matt Rife. Oh 1 (5m 27s): Yeah. Yeah. 3 (5m 28s): And he, and she was like, I am blushing right now because there's like all this chemistry between these two phenomenon internet phenomenons. Yeah. And Hailey was kind of like losing it, the hack to a, 1 (5m 40s): She's actually crushing her 15 minutes though. I think she's doing a really good job. And some of the stuff that comes out of her mouth on podcasts, I'm like, that's 3 (5m 47s): Gold. 1 (5m 48s): That's really gold. 3 (5m 50s): The first thing she said to Matt was like, she's a charity. 2 (5m 51s): She's doing a lot for charity too. Oh yeah. She save the dogs. Yeah. Yeah. Hey look man, suck dick, get famous. Save dogs. I'm all for it. Everything she did, I'm into like, 3 (5m 60s): This is what I said about her. I was like, she's an American hero. Oh we should be applauding that. You can do this in America. No, 2 (6m 6s): It what? You could never do that in Fallujah. No, there's no way. 0 (6m 10s): She said she's spit on a dick and they're bringing her up on concerts. Like she's a cancer kid. 2 (6m 16s): She could never happen in Afghanistan. 0 (6m 19s): Bless America. It's pretty amazing. Could you have it in France? I don't think. Definitely not anymore. Well not in France. They're not impressed. Yeah, they, they're the ones that showed the World War II soldiers that came back here and were like, you know what French girls do? Yeah. It's 2 (6m 35s): Called a French 0 (6m 35s): Kiss. Yeah. Oh that's, there's all sorts of things you can do now that I've been over in France. 2 (6m 40s): Yeah. Showed me this. Yes. 0 (6m 42s): More than just laying there. 2 (6m 45s): Well I guess we should probably introduce the show that we're doing here at some point today. As you know I'm the great Gerard Michaels. The great Gerard Michaels. That's Trade Mac. Then this is gonna be a kind of a crossover episode. It's not really a canceled weekly Hi mic. You're here with us in spirit. But the great Candace, we back of chatting with Candace and me. We're, we're like scissoring here. This is a scissor. 1 (7m 6s): Our schedules keep overlapping. It's so weird. Every time we're in Texas, we're here the same time and it's either Austin or Dallas and it's not planned. Yeah. It's so interesting. It 2 (7m 14s): Is weird. Yeah. She doesn't, when she know 3 (7m 16s): He's got a 1 (7m 17s): Tracker on me. 0 (7m 18s): Yeah. 3 (7m 19s): He's like track. 2 (7m 22s): Oh weird. That's weird. 0 (7m 24s): Stranger here you're just texting from a plane. Oh, you're 2 (7m 27s): Going Alaska. I go to Alaska. 3 (7m 30s): Cute. You're pretending you didn't know her. How she liked her coffee in front of me. Yeah, 2 (7m 35s): I know, right? Well I didn't know because you know, you never, you never know like, you know, can switch it up. It's like yeah, 1 (7m 40s): We're not predictable creatures. We're 2 (7m 41s): Not. No, no. I mean that's true. You pretty much are. But like you're, she's also a witch though. She's, there's a brew's. 1 (7m 46s): I am. I take pride in that. But there's, you have the different cycles and I swear I'm a different person depending on where I'm in my cycle. 2 (7m 53s): Yeah. That's called the being Latino. 1 (7m 55s): It's called being a woman. Oh 0 (7m 57s): Yeah. Yeah. Latino. No, I just think it's moody. Moody. No offense. No, 1 (8m 2s): I don't take offense 'cause I am. But I think like if you share that with your partner, it's gonna make everyone's life easier. So there was this, 0 (8m 8s): I feel like I'm a different person every day. Well 1 (8m 10s): Like the phase that you're in. So there was this guy and it was like, so it was adorable 'cause he really had no idea what anything was when it came to like the female cycle. And he's like, so I asked this girl out on a date and she said we couldn't 'cause she was in her L teal phase And when she's out of her luteal phase then we can go on a date. But I don't know what a luteal phase is. And everyone's like, this is a good sign. 'cause she wants to show up as her best self and her luteal self is gonna be like moody and depressed and just low energy. And he had no idea. And I think for a long time, like the feminist movement made it to a point where we can do anything bleeding and just as strong as a man or whatever. Right. Like all these commercials that we had. 1 (8m 50s): So we're denying the fluidity of what it is to be a woman. And then we get called crazy instead of just like leaning in to know like hormones have an actual effect on everything. Yeah. So if I just let you know I'm in this phase, then maybe you'll offer me more grace and then I'll do things and take time. So I'm not like reacting, 3 (9m 7s): Go to the red tents. Okay. Right. It's so red. 10 you dirty. 0 (9m 12s): And, 2 (9m 12s): And this is why we work so well together. 'cause she watched that video and came away with that positive outlook like, oh wow, that's really good. She wants to see what Elizabeth and you were like, he's a bitch. And I looked at that video and go, just every day I wake up, please make me fucking gay. Like every day I wake up going, today's the day I am gonna be gay. And I don't have to, 0 (9m 28s): You can make it happen. No 2 (9m 30s): You can't. Like you can, you can do gay 0 (9m 32s): Things. You gotta work. God fool. 3 (9m 35s): The opposite of pray the gay. 0 (9m 38s): You ever been in a Turkish? 2 (9m 39s): I'm staring at Matt Rife pictures like, 0 (9m 41s): Do something man. 2 (9m 42s): Have you 0 (9m 42s): Ever read, 2 (9m 43s): Just gimme a little tingle or 0 (9m 44s): Something. But I would just assume that like if somebody said that, I'd be like, so you have an STD or you're on the rag, what are you trying to say? Like a guy's mind is so basic in that I don't, I'm surprised that we could even grasp that. 3 (9m 56s): Well it's, it's, they're just finding out now about how hormones affect weight loss. Like in 2024. They're just starting to, because they only really looked at weight loss with men. And so they applied it to women and now they're like, oh, all these other hormones affect and where you are in like whether you're perimenopause or post menopause, it all affects how you lose weight. 0 (10m 20s): It is nice. They finally geared it towards the people who are known for eating disorders and having body shame problems. Well the reason, oh, we got an idea for you too. Now that you're 2 (10m 29s): Gaining weight, have you ever thought maybe you're just a dude. Yeah. 0 (10m 33s): Here's 2 (10m 33s): Some more testosterone 0 (10m 34s): And that'll help. You're, you're losing hair from malnutrition and vomiting and it's like, you know, we did some extra research we thought to help you on dudes. 2 (10m 42s): So for those that don't know the people that are been living under a rock. No, these are the siren sounds of our guests today we are absolutely blessed to have two amazing guests. This is Dave Landau of Normal World on the Blaze and on YouTube just headlined at the mothership. Yes. Here in Austin, Texas. And on the same show was British. I keep saying British Fe don't, 3 (11m 5s): It's so hard for me not to 2 (11m 6s): Say British. I I said it 15 times Bridget Fe and also on the same show. You guys both crushed it. It was amazing. Thank you. So this is the Chiron Don where people will sign 3 (11m 17s): Him. This is also kind of a crossover because I have dumpster fire and he does normal world and it's like the, the crossover of our shows as well. 2 (11m 24s): This is like the fuck it's called in Transformers. We what, what was that one? Where Planet Captain Planet comes when? Oh yeah. The black, the queer, the Asian, they all put their hands in the middle. Which, 0 (11m 33s): Which And then they Society. Yeah. 2 (11m 37s): Our powers combined. We will, we can make cars on affordable. 0 (11m 40s): We're gonna ruin a neighborhood 2 (11m 44s): With our captain planet. He, mines lithium. 0 (11m 51s): It's actually worse for the environment. Kids are doing it. 2 (11m 54s): If you're gonna have slavery, at least have slavery that helps carbon footprints. Right guys? Yeah, 0 (11m 58s): That's what I've 2 (11m 59s): Always said. We're helping things. 0 (12m 1s): That's why you don't turn on the radiator. They're handcuffed too. That's 2 (12m 9s): Just the 0 (12m 9s): Lady boys. Yeah, that's just, oh yeah, that's, that's just the lady boy. That's just the lady. That's just the ones that are taken Anyway going on. Sorry. 2 (12m 17s): So wait, I gotta tell the story. I, I was with Dave 3 (12m 19s): About a lady boy. I was with 7 (12m 21s): Dave. 2 (12m 22s): The ones that are taking, I was with Dave, 0 (12m 25s): He's talking about Matt Rife and we're ta teaming a lady boy. He's trying to dip his toe into the pond. 2 (12m 34s): Have you ever seen, have you ever seen the video where the guy shows lady boys, American trans men and they're like, haha. It's like they're not even trying. So I was with Dave and Jacksonville and the Jacksonville Comedy Zone. I it's a great club and it's in a remodel. 0 (12m 53s): Yes. 2 (12m 54s): And it, I don't know, there's still like a lot of Katrina families that live there or something. I, I don't know. Yes. And he's saw stage and it's so loud. There's, there's a, a cookout going on around the pool and there's just kids screaming. And in one of his awkward silences when people are trying to find whether or not they should laugh or call the cops, on one of his jokes, a kid starts screaming and he said out of nowhere, and this is during the opening weekend of the movie, he goes, oh, that's just the sound of freedom. 7 (13m 22s): Oh no. 2 (13m 24s): Like what? He goes, it's better if we don't ask. I'm like, oh my God almighty, this is the most, but the timing of it with these kids screaming in the back 0 (13m 36s): Because it was like painful screaming. 7 (13m 40s): How 1 (13m 40s): Do you get your brain to be so quick and pull genius? It's just superpower to me thank really is 2 (13m 46s): Trauma or it's trauma. 0 (13m 48s): Oh yeah. 2 (13m 49s): Some people get CTE he gets 1 (13m 51s): Be I know. It's incredible. Genius. I get blown away. Genius. 3 (13m 54s): Yeah, genius. Thank you very 1 (13m 55s): Much called Genius. You know what I also thought was awesome is when, when you were on Rogan is like how much you were just like hyping him up. And I just thought that was so beautiful because there's so much competition with everything and it's so rare that you see someone that is just like really excited for someone else. And I just thought that was great. Oh, I love that. Oh, thanks. 3 (14m 12s): I mean I also think that No, 0 (14m 13s): I agree. There's so no meant the world to me, but I didn't mean to interrupt you. Sorry. 3 (14m 16s): Thanks. No, I think there's a lot of comedians and I think Dave is like probably one of the most underrated comedians that people don't know about. And it's, it's always like strange to me because as someone who watches a lot, a lot of comedians don't even really watch other comedians. But I love watching comedy and just watching the audience for like five nights straight. I love being up in those balconies of mothership because you can see the audience like physically doubling over, you know? It is, I've seen a lot of comedians perform there and it's like, people laugh, but to see them physically reacting with their whole body that is like, it is a gift. 3 (14m 59s): It's truly what you give those people other than shock and awe. And I love when they groan too, but it's like they're groaning laughing. It's, I don't know, it's, I, there's been a couple of comedians who I've seen do that. Most of them are dead 0 (15m 18s): Time. Don't don't don't days. Don't put that out there because 3 (15m 23s): They're all tortured and I don't know, it's just like, that's a gift you're giving. And to be able to do that, you know, two hours in a night and then the next night and then a following night and it's always changing his set be being able to jump in and out of talking to the crowd and not, you know, incorporating it. You have that thing right now that should be going viral of the drunk lady that you It's so good. Oh, that posted? Yeah. Yeah. I'm like, put out two and three right now please. Because like a series, series, 0 (15m 58s): Series. Yeah. I think I said pussy and it's so Instagram's like, we're not putting this out. Oh, there's, so 2 (16m 3s): One thing you gotta do going forward is you gotta get a camera behind you to get audience reaction because that's 0 (16m 8s): A, a good idea. 2 (16m 9s): Part of being at his show is like, it's obviously your jokes are fun and like, you're like, if the, if Ted came to life, you're like the teddy bear that tells these insane jokes on stage, man. So, you know, like, ah, you know, but it's, I think it was a compliment. I dunno if it came out that 0 (16m 28s): Way. No, it did. It did. It was just funny, the, 2 (16m 31s): Like he comes out on stage, Matt's six foot eight, he brings it down and looks at the cut. He goes, I got a big cock. 0 (16m 36s): He's so good. So good. 2 (16m 38s): It's your Ted. I'm like, I'm looking at Ted. So, 0 (16m 40s): Because yeah, Matt always forgets the dwarf, but 2 (16m 44s): It's the audience reaction as people look around going, I wanna laugh, but is everybody else laughing? Like I like, am I the only one that gets the pedophile joke? Like, it's so funny, dude. 0 (16m 53s): That's why I try to do like seven in a row. Yeah. But the best is 3 (16m 57s): That the people in the front are usually the ones who are dying and they don't have the benefit of seeing anyone in front of them laughing. Yeah. And they're the ones, it's weird too in that, in that stage, I always notice the people who are right under where the green room balcony is. I don't know if it's like the positioning or something they seem to, or if they're looking at you sideways, they always see them seem the most subdued of everyone in the whole place. Yeah. Everyone else is like dying, but all along the side in that back, it just, I don't 2 (17m 27s): Oh, so, so the VIP where we were next to it is the green room? Yes. 0 (17m 31s): Yeah. 2 (17m 31s): Oh man, I was yelling at y'all motherfuckers just shut up. I was like, shh. 0 (17m 36s): Oh, I don't blame you. I was like, you should have, yeah. I don't 2 (17m 39s): Know what the hell was going on over there. Yeah, we're gonna come over there and crack some fucking skulls. Yeah. Why do you think, 0 (17m 45s): But it, 2 (17m 46s): Why do you think in all sincerity, you've been on tv, you were on Kuia forever. Yeah. Crowder, you know, anybody that knows you in a seen knows you're one of the top 10 working comedians today. That's really nice. But to your point, the general public is like, who? So 0 (18m 1s): Thank you a compliment. 2 (18m 5s): So why do you think that is, bro? Like, why do you think when shit sandwich in the beginning of this every Well, no, it's the truth because it's, yeah. You know, I sit and, you know, look up to a guy like this and I aspire to be to a guy like this and I'm like, 0 (18m 15s): And then you're like, maybe not what the 2 (18m 17s): Fuck is going on here? Maybe you just go on TikTok. Yeah, maybe I should lose 50 pounds and put on blush like Matt Rice. Like, you know, like, 0 (18m 23s): So I've been doing a lot of pushups and Kegels just in case. 2 (18m 27s): Why, why, why do you think that you've kind of almost flown onto the radar even though, I mean, you've, you've been on with the biggest guys in the world, man, I mean, 0 (18m 36s): You know, I don't know. Like it, it's it's a lot of like what you just said about her. She's the first person really who ever even brought me up on Rogan, who was already having me on his club at his club, you know, and like, talked to me, like built me up another comic that actually helped, like you were a comic. That helps. And I think, you know, me as a comic that helps other people too. And it's not even like a help thing, it's just, I think you should care about each other instead of like be stabbing each other in the back. Yeah. 2 (19m 1s): Rising tide lips, all ships. For 0 (19m 3s): Sure. Yeah. And I, I've never, and and it was amazing that she did that. Like, 'cause nobody does that. Like, it was, it, it, and I've been such a fan of her that I was like shocked that she had a high opinion of me. So I don't know. Like, I don't know. I, it might be my own psyche. Maybe I'm my own worst enemy. Maybe I get my, I push myself out of the way. Maybe other people see me as competition, so they don't wanna Nobody put baby in the corner. Nobody puts nobody puts Davy in the corner. Nobody puts Davy in the corner. Well it's, it's funny though. It's hard to break down. Like, I don't know because I've had a lot of opportunities. No, you 2 (19m 37s): Can, can pigeonhole like a right wing dude and you're not like a right wing dude, even though like I am. I'm, I'm all right with it. But I mean, like for some reason you get pigeonholed in this like, 1 (19m 46s): Well being on the Blaze obviously kind of extends itself to that. But what I think is interesting about the Blaze is a, I said last night, how do you have a job at The Blaze? Like, do they know what you're doing when you're not there? Say 0 (19m 56s): That. Do they know 2 (19m 58s): I never heard the headmaster bit. 1 (20m 0s): Right. And then I've been there a handful of times, you know what I mean? So I feel like there's this weird transition when it comes to like the conservatives or even like the Republicans. 'cause I feel like they're slightly different. Yeah. But it just seems to be more welcoming and like open to whoever is supporting like, the foundations of like freedom. 2 (20m 18s): No, that's a very good point. And this is kind of what kills me in the comedy community is like, what do you call 'em, conservatives or whatever, just anti woke people very open to having left wing voices, like on their shows. It's very open to having left wing people, like even tour with them. But the left, it's been my experience. I don't know if you guys feel differently, they shut you out completely. As soon as you're off message clubs, just stop answering email. Like I, dude, I came up in New York comedy doing five shows a night. I can't, I can't get booked in New York. Mm. Wow. You know, like, I gotta, like, I can rent my own theater. I can go out to Distress Factory, but like getting up at New York Comedy Club, it's like an impossibility. I can't work for free. So. 0 (20m 57s): Well yeah, some places they definitely are starting to switch because money is money and that will never change. Yeah. So if you start selling tickets, it's a little bit different. Yeah. Ouch. But, but even when, no, no, I didn't mean, I didn't mean like that 7 (21m 11s): I meant anyone. I meant anybody. Yeah. 8 (21m 18s): Do I look like Ted now? Motherfucker, 0 (21m 20s): Don't worry. 7 (21m 21s): That's 0 (21m 22s): Not what I meant. 7 (21m 24s): Look, 0 (21m 24s): I was selling out theaters for a hot six months and then that rollercoaster went down. But no, I, I think that it's, it just comes down to like money in that case where it, but you are right. Like, everybody who I lost as a friend were never my friends. And they were comics that were in the business who were all, all liberal across the board, extreme liberals. And it was because first I was on Artie and Anthony and people were a little jealous. So I started losing friends because of that. And then once I got on Crowder, people were just pissed that I was on something that was big and that it was right wing and there was stuff that being set. So I lost so many friends in comedy almost instantly. 0 (22m 7s): People that I had helped get work and helped get into clubs. And oddly none of the ones that you would assume, but like the white knights and, and that sort of thing. So it is like, I, I completely got got stabbed by all those people and like, it, so it's hard to say like if I'm even conservative or left wing, I feel like I have a lot of liberal ideology as well as, as right wing ideology. But I I I'm not supported by that part of the community. And there's the insecurity of that part of the community as well where I just don't think a lot of people will help you. 2 (22m 38s): Yeah. I think you're a nineties democrat, which is a 2024 Nazi. 0 (22m 43s): Yes. So yeah, that's what yeah. My, yeah, that's, 3 (22m 46s): That's, that's where I land. That's where you're at. Couple, 2 (22m 49s): Couple Nazis over 3 (22m 50s): Here. It's funny too, like the, the, there's always this talk about how like, women are very competitive and women in the comedy are competitive and I'm like, men are too. Oh yeah. I mean they're just a little bit shadier about it. 2 (23m 2s): The feminist though, most men in comedy are women. They're in their feminine, I would say. Yeah. You know, it's, it, it, it's, it should be a team sport, but it's like a lot of individuals and it's not the things even necessarily that they say in front of your face or in the green room. It's what they do after, you know? And Mm. I really don't, for the most part, I don't really enjoy the quote unquote comedy community. I like comedy in that I get to do cool stuff like this and that. It affords me the opportunity. But comedy's very much like a chore to me. It's like something I have to do to do the things that I actually want to do. 3 (23m 34s): I will say though, Austin, the, the, because I was in LA and then I had a similar experience to Davy in the corner over there. That's me. I, but it was different because I was a playboy and I wrote, I was, I wrote this column right after Trump got elected that Donald Trump is already making America great again. I was still shilling for the left in this column. But just the headline alone, it was right after the inauguration. It was too soon. It was 2016. And I lost a lot of friends. A lot of, I it is still, and people in comedy. And one of the things I was talking about last night is that I'm mad at myself because I allowed it to kind of scare me off stage. I didn't wanna be around like people who I loved and supported and I thought were my friends were unfollowing me or blocking me. 3 (24m 20s): And it was, I'm like, I see you in green rooms. It was hurtful. And I didn't know how to handle it at all because I was like, I thought comedy just was like, we were in the trenches together. So I was mistaken in thinking that that was something that united us all. And I also just assumed that we were working for the joke. Like, I didn't think that there was anything, not like some ideology that we needed to push. So that was unsettling to me. And, and 2 (24m 51s): Well, it, it changed, right? I mean, I think you're really onto something there too. If I had started comedy three years later, I would, I would've quit immediately. Like something happened in 2015 with the Trump campaign that just broke comedian's, brains. 3 (25m 7s): It broke. Yeah. And at that point, I was only like four years, years 2 (25m 9s): In people York broke people in, in five 3 (25m 11s): Years, years 2 (25m 12s): In And your, your Twitter is phenomenal. Your Twitter is, thank you. 0 (25m 15s): She's great. 2 (25m 16s): Unbelievably good. Yeah. But there's something, and I, you know, I kind of felt the same way. And I saw, well since we're name dropping all over this episode, there was Andrew, I had just gotten passed at a club and Andrew Schultz was, he wasn't Andrew Schultz yet, but he was a house comedian. Right. So there's this thing called, you know, getting passed in the club. It's not really a thing anymore. But it, 3 (25m 37s): I'm the only non comedian here. Yeah. 2 (25m 39s): Okay. It's like, 3 (25m 40s): You know, my art form is different, 2 (25m 41s): You know, you know how you like to say like, I'm a contract girl. Yeah. That's what getting passed in a club is. It's like, no, no. I'm one of, I'm one of the past comedians here. Okay. Like, I get booked, you know, so 0 (25m 51s): You get paid. 2 (25m 52s): I used to be like, you 3 (25m 53s): Get paid. Yeah. 2 (25m 54s): I used to. Yeah. 25 bucks a 0 (25m 55s): Set. But yeah. 2 (25m 58s): Feel 3 (25m 58s): Like, excuse me. Those chairs are mine. I'm getting $25 for this set. 2 (26m 2s): It's a whole nighting process. You know, you pass an audition, you get on your knees, the club comes up and taps you on your shoulders and 0 (26m 8s): Parking was 80. 2 (26m 10s): I'm doing, I'm doing four sets a night for 25 bucks and drinking $250 worth of booze. Yeah. 3 (26m 16s): Are we talking about the comedy store? That's basically what it was. 2 (26m 19s): Yeah. So when you're like a past comic, you're, you're doing multiple shows at the club. So you're like hanging out in the green room. Right. And then this booker comes in, first of all, me too changed everything in New York. Like every booker became a blue-haired woman overnight. Well 3 (26m 33s): 'cause all the bookers were fucking me too. Well 2 (26m 36s): There's, well there there is something to, that's when I first started in comedy. Like it was a party. Yeah, me too. It was 0 (26m 41s): A frat house. You couldn't rape anybody anymore. 7 (26m 44s): You couldn't make any girl suck your dick on stage time after that. 0 (26m 48s): That whole power shift. Bullshit. Why I'm not anywhere 2 (26m 51s): Needs to be a proper country, guys. You know, 7 (26m 53s): Look what they've done to us. You to suck a man's dick to get on stage. What happened this America, now you gotta, 2 (26m 58s): We're talking about that. Right. So 0 (27m 1s): Now you gotta work for it. What 7 (27m 3s): A 2 (27m 3s): Man. But there was the, the point I'm making guys, 7 (27m 9s): What happened to the America that I know and love with a woman down her knees. Anything 2 (27m 16s): We shall, 0 (27m 19s): Wheres the land? I knew as a boy, but you could suck a dick for fame. 7 (27m 25s): Now you just have to allude to spitting on one. And you can, 0 (27m 29s): And now you're famous. My famous meanwhile, Corey Hamm's sitting in an early grave, 7 (27m 35s): Jesus 2 (27m 35s): Christ. 0 (27m 37s): Sorry, I'll be over. I'll stay in my corner. 7 (27m 43s): Maybe we did find out why you're still in that corner. 0 (27m 47s): Yeah. Frank, there's too much darkness. 7 (27m 52s): The 2 (27m 52s): Point I'm trying to make is that it was a lot of fun in the beginning and it didn't really matter whether you were liberal, conservative, just like you were funny. Not rape. Yeah. It didn't matter if you were you. 0 (28m 1s): And the only way two cos can keep a secret is if both of them are dead. You still got one running around sl he, 2 (28m 9s): He's choreographing around 7 (28m 11s): With 2 (28m 12s): Fmp Bizkit. You got Corey Feldman, 0 (28m 16s): You have to get normal. I went to his concert in hopes of getting him 'cause he was gonna do it. But then he's, he backed out. 7 (28m 22s): That's what happened with me too. 0 (28m 23s): Really? 7 (28m 23s): Yeah. We talked for a minute. 2 (28m 25s): You were supposed to do Corey Feldman. 7 (28m 26s): Yeah, we have him on mine. Yeah. Really? 0 (28m 28s): Yeah. And, and then 7 (28m 29s): He just ghosted. 0 (28m 30s): So we showed up and we, I dressed as him and lost boys with the Durag and with the, the Rambo bandana. And Angela dressed like an angel. And Garrett dressed like him and the burbs. And we showed up and we were doing everything we could to get his attention. And then watching the show, I, I, I felt very bad for, for him. 2 (28m 54s): Did you not think of dressing as Michael Jackson and just having him come to you? 0 (28m 58s): I thought about, I thought about just putting Halo over my head and looking enough like Corey, the other Corey that he would think that it was him. 2 (29m 7s): You could've dressed like Charlie Sheen and had him run into a trap. Oh, 0 (29m 10s): That's true. Call true. If I just dressed up as up like a tub of Crisco. 2 (29m 17s): He just dressed up like a thing of Ky and, and Harvey Einstein's couch. The four Stevens 0 (29m 24s): Four Stevens was the name of the producers. The Four Seasons was the tub. No, we went because I seriously want to interview him 'cause I loved him as a kid. Like, stand by Me. I watched with myself. 2 (29m 37s): Everybody saw him as a kid that that was the problem. Well, 0 (29m 39s): Yeah, I mean that's a, you know, cherry pie, that song, it's written about his asshole. Why does 3 (29m 46s): This keep coming up on every podcast I've on with 0 (29m 49s): You? Somebody Why busting Just wanted to use it again. Wasn't 2 (29m 54s): Like working at Playboy. 0 (29m 57s): Wait, she 3 (29m 57s): Was making a point. I lost 0 (29m 59s): My point. I'm sorry if I know where it was. Yeah. I got lost in all of that. Oh, she wasn't a passing, he was explaining about 3 (30m 7s): And getting passed. 0 (30m 7s): Just being passed at a club. And you can go in there as a regular and then Oh yeah, yeah. 2 (30m 12s): I was just basically saying that like they 0 (30m 13s): Let you in the back door like the Cory Hamed door. I'm sorry. Just keep coming. 2 (30m 19s): So problem. They wanna 0 (30m 21s): Stop coming. Stop there. Now this is comedian stop doesn't stop. That's what Corey gets. Just keep coming. See, this is what I need. I need somebody to jump on that. Like, IM not the only weirdo in the room. Well, not for that. Yeah. I mean, why even close the door? Just keep 2 (30m 36s): Sorry. In 10 seconds or less. It, it stopped being about whether you were funny. It stopped. It started being about whether you were on message and that kind of changed everything. And then everybody kind of got the point that it was like, it doesn't matter if you're funny, it matters if you're saying what we want to say. And the whole Andrew Schultz thing was a booker came into the room, it was a booker, and she was like, Andrew, you're not gonna tell that joke. And the reason I'm telling this is because it kind of scared me out of being who I wanted to be for a little bit also. And then I really regret that and went too far the other way being like I'm saying whatever the fuck. Andrew sat there and he goes, yo, are you a comedian or are you a booker? Like if you want tell your jokes, you go on stage. And she's like, Andrew, I will not book you here if you tell that joke, that Trump joke. And he goes up and he wasn't Andrew Schultz, he was just a guy. 2 (31m 17s): Yeah. And he sat on the stool and looked over in this tight little room and was like, y'all see that fat bitch with the blue hair over there? She says, y'all can't handle a Trump joke. Is that true? 0 (31m 27s): And then you 2 (31m 27s): Could, you could 0 (31m 28s): Like feel the heat 2 (31m 29s): Radi. She was like, Chernobyl. You're like, oh, this thing's about to blow. And the joke was like, kind of an innocuous joke. It was very funny. It was something to the effect of like, I don't want Donald Trump to be president, but I I don't want Donald Trump to ever not run for president. He's the funny, like, we need to make him run for mayor. Run 0 (31m 44s): For 2 (31m 44s): Governor. Yeah. Just line people up and let this dude roast. Right. And it was a funny joke in the room of pla and he like looked at her and she like stormed out of the room. And this was like 2015. And I was like, this is fucking weird. Yeah. Like this is a weird thing. 0 (31m 57s): Yeah. 3 (31m 57s): I 2 (31m 57s): To like throw a fit over. 3 (31m 59s): Yeah. I feel that is like something I regret is just letting it kind of scare me off stage. Although again, it's like that gay, everything happens for a reason. It forced me. At the same time my audience online was growing and I was like, well just focus on this. And then, and I, it freed me from waiting tables, which I was doing at the time. And I stopped getting up as much and I started doing dumpster fire and my garage and then 2019, like through all of 2019. And then 2020 came. So I was already set up for the pandemic. And had I been waiting tables and grinding and like still doing comedy, I would've been completely fucked. 3 (32m 40s): Mm. So 0 (32m 42s): Yeah. I see. I noticed the shift in 2012 when I first went to LA when they were gonna bring back in living color and I was gonna, I was well for like two minutes I was gonna write for then they canceled it. Mm. But it was very irreverent. And I think, but I could just see the writing on the wall of the different things going on. A lot of the bureaucracy going on in LA and I could feel it in the rooms. That stuff were, I, I just didn't like it. I'm like, and what's the goal here? I'm like, I have been working as a comic on the road at that point for, you know, eight, nine years. Why am I, or at seven Yeah. Eight years. So I'm like, why did I come here to get approval of others just so I can go get booked where I've already been working all these years? 0 (33m 22s): It made no sense to me because my goal was standup. I, I, I want make movies, but I want to make independent movies. I don't want to work with studios. I don't want, I mean, I would, don't get me wrong, but it's like I wanted an in, that's why I was there. Sure, yeah. Yeah. But then getting the other approval of comics, I'm like, I can't, I'm sober. I can't go to this place every night. Yeah. 3 (33m 42s): And hang out with all these people. The other thing hanging out to like do get time 2 (33m 46s): Networking. 0 (33m 47s): Yeah. And it just wasn't worth it to me. So like I could have, I'd go to a couple clubs and do time, but it all the whole time, I'm just trying to now get booked on the road 'cause I rented an apartment. Yeah. You know, so I'm like, all right, I gotta keep making money. So it's always just been about doing standup to me that I never really was trying to seek the approval of like these cliques. 2 (34m 8s): When did you think that it, for the longest time I felt like comedy was about pushing boundaries and then somewhere it changed to becoming about staying within the boundaries. Right. And, and you take people that are like, there's people that have never even told a joke. They just mimic on TikTok and they got, they, they're they hosting late night. They've never actually said a word. 1 (34m 31s): See, I don't know that may, maybe it's 'cause I'm outside of it. I feel like comedy never used to really be political at all. Like, I think of Ka like what's her name? Kathy Griffin and like Chelsea Handler. Like that was my exposure to comedy or Dane Cook. Like, it was like, just like storytelling kind of. And once in a while, looking back maybe there was a little bit of like a tiny, 3 (34m 52s): I mean Carlin was very political. 1 (34m 53s): See I never wa I wasn't like into comedy. Like I like the the poppy kind of people. 2 (34m 58s): We didn't hate each other. Right. Like, like Pryor was very political. Right. But it was in a way where it was like, ah, yeah, Italians do be like that. Like I think somewhere along the line we actually like started hating each other so we couldn't joke with 0 (35m 10s): One another. Well Eddie Murphy brought up people together more. Pryor was more showing people something they had never seen before, which was like people were not aware of. Like they were aware of the ghetto, but they never heard a story about it. I mean, this is a guy who was raised in a brothel. This is a guy who was a crack addict. And it's like, you didn't hear that ever before of somebody being that open. I mean besides maybe Dick Gregory. But he was way more hidden than prior. You know, red Fox. Red Fox. But Red Fox was street jokes. He was funny, but they were just dirty jokes. But I mean, Pryor was saying like things about where he came from, what his addictions were all like, that's why he's so well regarded is because it shifted into making it vulnerable and personal, which had never been done before. 0 (35m 54s): And I think there is a political aspect to that because you're seeing a side of like poverty and, and things that you didn't really, and at least White America at the time for the most part, wasn't really paying attention to. Yeah. 2 (36m 7s): The candidates. You make a great point because the true art form is like saying something, making a statement, but in a way that's so entertaining or appealing that you don't really realize the statement is being made. 1 (36m 17s): Well there's also there wa I didn't feel the attitude that I was being talked at or being infantalized where it was like, I know the way to think and the way to live and this is the way to do it. So let me preach for an hour on this stage, it was more just like, again, like storytelling. Where now I feel like I can't watch any sitcoms because like there's an agenda that's being pushed so heavily. And I remember it was like right after Covid like 21 or something and every show I was watching, I had to just abandon because it was just like they were laying it on so thick. 3 (36m 47s): You commercials, what was it? Brooklyn Nine Nine? What? Oh yeah, the end of that series. I was like, oh my God. It was crazy. It was such a funny show. And then the, then like all of the BLM and 2020 happened and they had no, their show about cops and there's like a cab bands outside and they did not know how to deal with it at all. And it was just like talking about breaking your ankle on the dismount. It was just 0 (37m 13s): Holy 3 (37m 14s): Shit 0 (37m 15s): That 3 (37m 15s): It became unwatchable. You were like, wow, you guys really don't know how to deal with this Reno 2 (37m 20s): 9 1 1. Same thing. The Reno want 9 1 1. Which one The greatest shows of all time. 3 (37m 24s): So good. 2 (37m 24s): Yeah. And then the remake was like, and almost abusive. Like it was a work on like they, they should have been tried. Whoever the writers were should have been tried for social injustice. 0 (37m 34s): Well, and, and Thomas Lennon and I'm forgetting the other guy's name, they wrote a book called How to Make Movies for Fun and Profit With Fun Crossed Out. And it's all about how they wrote 17 again, whatever. It's like how to take a very hacky idea, write it into a movie and sell it to Hollywood. That's the whole point of the book. And that way you can also make a nine one Reno, 9 1 1 and do whatever you want. But it's like how to play the game both ways. It's a great book. So it's, but it's fascinating 'cause it's like, but then you took the thing that was art and for you that you thought was funny and kind of started pushing it towards what those people wanted to get it back on. And that's, I don't know, that's kind of depressing. 0 (38m 15s): I don't, I like, I don't think you should have to push a line either. I think if your natural voice, like when I'm on stage, I'm just being me. So whatever you see, that's who I am. And I hope that comes off that way. You know, like that's just me being funny. I'm not trying to push an audience. I'm not trying to be edgy. I'm not trying to not be edgy. I'm not trying to be clean. I'm not trying to be dirty. Like I think the problem is as people now think like, oh I have to be shock. I have to be edgy. I have to be, you know, or I have to be squeaky clean and try to be Nate Bartzi and you're not that. But you see a lot of people just trying to be shock. And I think that is also a problem because the pendulum swinging. It's overcorrecting the wokeness. 0 (38m 56s): Right. You know, where it's like we don't need it. Where it's like that all the time. Like you should be true to your own voice. That's like you said, when it's everything telling you how you should think. And also with standup, you should never tell people how to think. No. Like your whole thing is like you are a piece of shit and they're supposed to relate to you. 3 (39m 15s): None of us graduated from college. 0 (39m 18s): No, I barely got outta high school. Yeah. I'm still trying to figure out how I did. I have a best in eighth grade education, so it's like I don't, I don't, I don't stand on stage and preach about how you should feel. And 3 (39m 30s): I'm in recovery. Like what am I, that's why when people watch Dumpster Fire, I'm like, I'm not gonna sit here and tell you how to vote. I know a lot of people wanna be affirmed and they want, they wanna know that their beliefs, this is like how it works. The confirmation bias is just like, I wanna know that I'm thinking correctly. I wanna feel like I'm right and I'm like, I'm a moron. You guys do what's best for your family. I don't care how you vote. And that's a controversial thing to say. Now people will be like, oh, little miss Captain of defense riding team or whatever. 0 (40m 1s): And I'm like, 3 (40m 2s): I don't care. I'm not riding a fence. I'm just being honest. 2 (40m 5s): Captain of the fence riding team. I like that. 0 (40m 7s): That's gonna be my 3 (40m 8s): T-shirt. 0 (40m 9s): Well people say that, 2 (40m 10s): That's furnished that one to my next 0 (40m 12s): Well people say that to me too. Like, oh, you ride the fence too much. And it's like, no, because I have issue to issue opinions about what affects me. Sure. And I don't judge people based on what they do. Like, I don't, like, I've made too many mistakes in my life to look at other people and be like, you know what? You should get it together. Have you ever driven a burning car down a freeway backwards? 'cause you were drunk off your ass like, 2 (40m 39s): No David. I don't think I have. 0 (40m 40s): No, most people haven't. So it's hard for them to be like, no, Dave, tell me what are all the secrets of how to win at life and 3 (40m 46s): These and that. This is the thing most Americans are not tuning into this stuff for. They're, they wanna laugh, they wanna just Yeah. That's what it, it was a weird Yeah, there's, I think there's so many forces at, at play talking about all of these things. Because the other thing that's happened that I've been contemplating a lot is, and I contemplated this when we had this meeting with these guys who are gonna do shorts for us because they're like, oh, dumpster fire's good, but you need to package it differently in TikTok shorts. And we had a meeting with these young Gen Z kids from Senegal and the look on this kid's face when he's like, what's your strategy? What's your brand? And what, I was like, I don't know what you're talking about. He was like, wow, how do you even have a fucking business? 3 (41m 28s): Like how are you even how you're 2 (41m 30s): Getting n you're getting nagged by a teenager from Senegal. You're like, are brilliant. I have fucking bread whenever I want to eat it, bro. Why don't we 0 (41m 36s): Have down by 3 (41m 37s): Away? That's not true. I'm gonna defend these kids because first of all they 2 (41m 42s): Speak like, oh, because you're a white girl, I get it. No, no, 3 (41m 44s): Because they speak like four languages and he is like a genius and they are like, wonder Kims. But they came up with you are a personal brand. Yeah. And you need a strategy. They view the world that way. I came up in the nineties where it was like, fuck you, we're not selling out. We're making hard. Yeah, totally. And I still have that, that like factory setting in me. Well there 2 (42m 4s): I I I love that because I mean that, that's where it really comes from. At the end of the day, we're all kind of like class count clowns and an outlaws. Right? Like that's what this is. It's like, oh don't, we're clowns. Don't you don't want me to say this. Okay. I'm definitely not gonna say it. But the money comes in and activism. I think this maybe go to back to your point. Activism is meant to be taken very seriously by nature. Comedy is not meant to be taken seriously by nature. So when people are taking activism and trying to pass it off as comedy, you're doing both poorly. And that's exciting. That's Saturday night Live for the last decade. Right. So it's 3 (42m 39s): Tragedy, 2 (42m 40s): It's activism with a laugh track. It's horrible activism and it's horrible comedy. You felt Jim 0 (42m 45s): Carrey is Joe Biden being high energy and playing electric guitar was not, 3 (42m 50s): You didn't like Hillary Clinton playing the piano 2 (42m 53s): The night comedy died. Yeah. 3 (42m 54s): Oh 2 (42m 55s): My god. 0 (42m 55s): I, and I like Kate McKinnon, but I was watching that and I'm like, this isn't real. Right. 3 (42m 59s): No, I thought it was parody and then I was like, oh God, this is real. And 0 (43m 3s): At the end when I was realized, I still 3 (43m 4s): Watch it sometimes just to laugh. Yeah. 0 (43m 6s): 'cause it was the day that day thought it was, it was insane. I just can't imagine Lorne Michaels who's been in his office doing coke with Belushi. Just like, you're gonna what? All you're gonna play a Yeah, I'm just gonna play Hallelujah on the piano Some go do some Leonard Coen. That's 2 (43m 21s): The cold open. 3 (43m 22s): But what's funny looking at it now and I cold, I showed it to somebody who didn't, a boomer who didn't know that they did that. And they were like, is she singing? Hallelujah. 'cause he won. I'm like, it could be perceived that way. Yeah, right. That's true. But that's not actually what was happening here. Yeah, 0 (43m 36s): That's true. That is a, it's a weird song to pick. If it was more energy behind it, they would've been like, wow, they're really celebrating Trump's presidency. Yeah. 2 (43m 44s): It, you know, and at, at that level I just don't get it. Right because you're making so much money. Like why? But at the low levels where you gotta make money, there's, there's scripts that I get that are like, own the libs. And I'm like, I don't wanna do this. This is not funny. And I was like, if you just let us be funny, people will be like, oh, those guys are cool and we'll win the culture war that way. But if you make it like, oh, but make sure you really turn the knife in on this trans kid. No. It's like, I don't give a shit. Like this is 3 (44m 11s): Just, I, 2 (44m 12s): It's not funny. It's making you look bad. That's 1 (44m 14s): The problem too, is approaching it like it's a war. Right. And then you're, everyone's always on the defense. Then it's like, how can I, like you bring a gun? That whole thing. Right. So everyone keeps like escalating with like their weapon of choice and then it's not really changing anything. So. Yeah. 3 (44m 28s): Well since servers are showing up with balloon animals, 1 (44m 32s): I think it's like just don't participate in the thing. Yeah. You know, to like whatever extent we've talked about this, so it's like sure guys shouldn't be in the bathroom. There's a a rate like, what do you call it, like a sprinter today that was all over x full package on display. Ran as a man until 45 is now like 50 something. Decided to run as a woman 3 (44m 51s): In the Paralympics? 1 (44m 52s): I don't know. No, no. There was something. There 2 (44m 56s): Was 1 (44m 57s): Maybe. 3 (44m 58s): No, there was. 1 (44m 59s): That's the final call on it if it was today, right? I guess me, 3 (45m 2s): I don't know. I 2 (45m 3s): Care that you identify as a woman. I care that you identify as not having legs. 1 (45m 7s): No, I might have the name on me. Hold on a second. 3 (45m 10s): No, there was something, I was reading about someone doing this in the Paralympics and I was like, really? Even the Paralympics, really? You can't. 1 (45m 17s): Yeah. And then JK roll. Yeah. Where is it? Petrillo. Can 0 (45m 21s): You imagine trying to hide a cock in the Special 1 (45m 23s): Olympics? Not even trying. No. You can see it. It's just there really just there like clearly shaped really. And then no one's even mad and I just don't 2 (45m 31s): Understand 3 (45m 32s): It. Right. 1 (45m 34s): And so I guess my point is like instead of fighting it and just being outraged, just like don't sit down, don't participate. You run by yourself, the asshole. Right. You're competing against yourself. That's a hard 2 (45m 42s): One man. Like if you're ri Gaines and you've been working your whole life towards this moment, that's a very tough one. It's a very hard one. Like on a certain level, I, I almost think I wish 1 (45m 50s): Comedians would, but if everyone sat down though, there would be no race and then there'd be no choice but to pull this person out of the pool is my point. So instead of like going to your keyboard and it in the, or holding just Yeah, 3 (45m 60s): But it's not, that's not even I disagree. Shouldn't hold on that because it shouldn't be up to the girls. Because the women that I've interviewed on from who like, not ri but Paula, I had her on my podcast and they all keep waiting for the adults to show up and say, oh no, this has gone too far. Yeah. And nobody ever does, which is wild. And I think the same thing happened at the Olympics. You hear from people who are competing and they're like, we just thought eventually someone like somebody would be like, no men can't, you know, box women and nobody does. So I don't feel it doesn't feel fair, fair again to like put it on these women who have worked so hard to be the ones, I mean, I think it is gonna fall to them. 3 (46m 41s): Right, exactly. But I don't, and unfortunately they're gonna lose out on medals and, and all these things, but it's, it doesn't feel fair that that should fall on them. To 1 (46m 51s): Me it's not fair. But like you can't wait for someone else to rescue at you at the same point. And all these dads like, what the heck are you doing with your daughter in a changing room? And you're just letting this happen. Yeah. They 3 (47m 0s): Don't wanna lose their job. That's because somebody goes after them online and puts a Facebook post up that this guy's a bigot. 2 (47m 7s): Which in a weird way is the, the fault of the right because like, hey, if, if these guys had union gigs like my grandfather did, they could say whatever the hell they wanted to say, and I ain't gonna lose my job. Like there's no, there's no confidence you can have in the world like a 1960s grandfather that's got a job for life and a pension and they'll just like, let that hard r fly dude. Like 0 (47m 29s): I agree. I think that that's something, you know, obviously there are bad issues with unions at some point, but I think we need to bring back the Italian mob as I've said many times, and it should be involved in probably every sport. Trust me, it'll be take, they got a 2 (47m 42s): Little greedy. 0 (47m 42s): The problem is they got a little, but the mob 2 (47m 44s): Was running things. 0 (47m 45s): But you think too with Hoffa, they're like, you still can't find 'em, can you? That should be a learning lesson. A learning lesson. 3 (47m 51s): Well there was a guy, so my sister lived in in South where, where was she in Boston? She was somewhere in Boston and there was some guy going around doing something and then they didn't 0 (48m 2s): Uncle Whitey, 3 (48m 3s): They didn't go to the cops. They told like the local pizza guy and then he just disappeared. The guy was doing this. So they did, they, they would like often in their neighborhood go to the mob before they even 0 (48m 14s): Forgot. Yeah. 2 (48m 15s): Lot about you didn't hear a lot of drag queen story time at the elementary school back with the Gambinos at us. It's weird 0 (48m 21s): 'cause it's like at a 2 (48m 22s): Presence of the community. 0 (48m 23s): Did you, you imagine just, 2 (48m 25s): Hey, 0 (48m 27s): Hey, 2 (48m 27s): You're not gonna go inside, talk to the kids. Right? I heard this thing. You're gonna, 0 (48m 31s): Hey Sammy, is that a guy in a dress there? What are you doing? Gonna take 2 (48m 37s): Something. We all make mistakes. How about you turn around, go home. Oh 0 (48m 43s): Yeah, I'll make, I got a funny story. And 2 (48m 45s): Tell all your other queer friends, they could do whatever they want at the bars. The elementary schools are off 0 (48m 50s): Limits as he's reading. You just eat two WAPs just laying down plastic. It be a funny sketch. What's this about? No, no. Keep reading your books. 2 (49m 3s): You got, you got VI with one of those Hall monitor Safety, safety fucking belts on. Hey. Yeah, you with the double D tension and the 10 there. Where, where do you fucking think you're going with that? Fucking 0 (49m 13s): This is a bone saw 2 (49m 14s): Run book. Huh? Oh 0 (49m 15s): One. Whoa, look at that one. Fish. Two fish Rick Fish. You're gonna be sleeping with fish. Keep reading his stories. See 2 (49m 22s): Spot Run. Oh no spot Can't run. Course his kneecaps is broken. 0 (49m 27s): Yeah. Oh, that's a real shame out handcuff. 2 (49m 29s): Weird. Maybe Spot should have understood boundaries 0 (49m 33s): All go and then it just becomes like, 7 (49m 35s): Bob story hours doesn't 3 (49m 36s): Seem any better. By the way, 0 (49m 39s): This 2 (49m 40s): Is a story of vi need rat, the man who couldn't keep his mouth 0 (49m 44s): Shut to give a mouse a cookie. You don't want to talk about what happens when that mouse becomes a rat. The kids are just crying. 2 (49m 59s): Candace is trying to open up a school. Maybe, you know, we can put you in touch with some people and you know, get you the right heads of the family world. 0 (50m 6s): I think that's right. You get the right people. Yeah. Yeah. You see, 2 (50m 8s): We know people who know people. Principals 0 (50m 10s): Just got slicked back hair, smoking this cigarette we're gonna do for you 2 (50m 14s): Today and today for lunch. No spaghetti with a little bit of a meat gravy. I don't want spaghetti. You want me to eat the spaghetti? My order's been back there for three hours. You eat the focus spaghetti. 0 (50m 27s): You made me pop an eye outta your skull for day Mena. 2 (50m 33s): I ain't eating nothing but carbs. It's all right. There's recess. 0 (50m 38s): There's a break. Wait for your break. I, I think a lot times with like what we talk about though with stuff like that, like when I bring it on stage and it's, it's, I've gotten good feedback from trans community and both the right where like I still do the joke, but it's basically like if I were to compete as a woman, I would win nothing. So there's no way like anybody would care or protest. They just be like, also 2 (51m 2s): The trans community doesn't give a shit. It's the fucking white women with a Twitter account. Not you though. 0 (51m 6s): But I've had people say like, this is how to do it. Should I 3 (51m 8s): Pivot? 0 (51m 9s): It's, this is how to like point out how ridiculous it is without shaming one person. Right. It's shaming myself. And it's like a lot of times they're like, well this is how you do it. Like we appreciate you pointing it out in this way. And it's not, that's my natural go. I'm not trying to please anybody. But the idea of is like, to point out how ridiculous it is is to just put me as an Olympian and let the crowd visualize that. You know, it's absurd. And I think, I think that's the problem is we, we have these conversations and we, we don't think it's as prevalent as it is, but it is at an Olympic level now where it is kind of just, why is everything hateful if we do bring it up? 0 (51m 50s): And I think also in in society, men should protect women and we're not, 2 (51m 56s): Yeah. This is why I keep saying the WNBA. Those players should know their goddamn place and instead having to asking for more money. 'cause once they get any kind of real money, all the dudes are gonna start being like, I play too. 0 (52m 6s): They sure can you imagine? When can you imagine when it's Johanna man, eventually you're just 2 (52m 11s): Gonna show up making a half million dollars a year. Every G League player is gonna be like Tuck. Tuck and dunk. 0 (52m 16s): The only girl on the court is just that one from Des Moines just covered 2 (52m 20s): Bruces. Yeah. I don't understand how the LGBT community and like feminists and shit, they get like all behind these men beaten 3 (52m 25s): Shit around. No, it's not all of them though. This is the piece I wrote for spectator of like how pride lasts the public and this, what was that? I wrote a piece for Spectator and it about how pride lasts the public basically like a year ago. And I interviewed all these like lesbians, gay men, Douglas Murray, brilliant people. I wish I could have published every one of their interviews because they're all brilliant and they're like, the gays aren't behind this. Yeah. You know, the lesbians aren't behind it. It's, it is like you said, white, like young, white, liberal straight women who are kind of cosplaying by right now will probably grow out of it eventually and end up in the suburbs. 3 (53m 5s): Like me. Like sure. We just smoked cigarettes and got tattoos. Just don't chop your tits off. Like what? Right. Just revolt. Re what? Revolt or like, what am I trying to say? Rebel? 2 (53m 17s): Rebel. Yeah. Yeah. 3 (53m 18s): Rebel in like a normal way. 2 (53m 19s): Yeah, in some way. It's like you're willing to watch all of society burn down just so you don't have to shave your armpits. Like, dude, just fucking calm down a little bit. 0 (53m 27s): I don't mind if you don't shave him. Yeah. 2 (53m 28s): Like, it's okay. I don't fucking care, dude. Like, 0 (53m 31s): I don't know why I threw that down. It's just 2 (53m 32s): Like, fuck the patriarchy. So everything that's ever happened, well the patriarchy's taken over the greatest civilization the world has ever known has gotta just fucking be destroyed. Because why? Because 1 (53m 43s): I don't, it's dad, I don't think it's that. So everyone talks about the patriarchy and then you have to say, well what would you replace it with? So are you replacing with something that's like more cohesive and like working together and symbi symbi symbiotic? Or are you saying that the matriarchy is gonna inherently be better? And like some people have that perspective. So it is like the tear it down. But I think anytime you're saying like, only one polarity is supposed to be in charge, I think that's where things get into a mess. Because as much as, I hate that word being overused all the time, there was a definitely a case for a lot of revision, you know what I mean? Like, there was definitely too much power in a lot of places. And like women not having choices. We couldn't wear pants, we couldn't send mail when they first launched post, like the post, they were like, we can't do this because the stay at home moms are gonna start having affairs and they're gonna start writing to their lovers. 1 (54m 33s): And And they did. 0 (54m 34s): Yeah. And they did. Yeah. Yeah, they did. 1 (54m 37s): Yeah. Some of 'em. Yeah. But it's like, there definitely was room for revision. So it's like, don't knock the whole thing down, but how do you work together to make something better? But it is definitely not getting rid of all the men and putting just women in place. They're 2 (54m 49s): Also, they're, they're redefining all these things constantly. Like the patriarchy was like, okay, male dominated, politic, women can't vote. These all things right now, the patriarchy is, it includes capitalism, it includes western 1 (55m 1s): Civilization. Well it, it's because that is masculine, 2 (55m 3s): It's inter but it's also intersectionality. 1 (55m 5s): It mean it doesn't mean, so patriarchy if you're using it the right way. I don't think it necessarily is bad to me when I hear that it's just like male dominated or it's like driven with masculinity. So that doesn't, again, doesn't mean that that's wrong. Like you need discipline and you need goals and you need to be able to like climb and, you know, and those 2 (55m 22s): Are considered masculine things. 1 (55m 23s): Yeah, for sure. Yeah. If you like, if you go into the more spiritual perspective of a divine feminine, divine masculine, or those energies like what a woman is, it's like that fluidity, that softness, that openness and the man is like driven. So they say that men have to act on something to make it happen. And women tend to be more magnetic. So we actually attract things so we don't have to work as hard technically to get things. It's more effective for us not to be so rigid. It actually works against us as women and men. Yeah. Loosen 2 (55m 51s): Up baby. 1 (55m 51s): And then for men, it works better to be disciplined. Could drink and it's like, it's this weird, this weird lie that we're the same and we're supposed to achieve success the same way or see the world the same way. Yeah. 0 (56m 2s): Well I don't think we're supposed to. 1 (56m 4s): No, we're not. We're 0 (56m 5s): Not. Yeah. I mean, so 1 (56m 5s): Like, the patriarchy's not bad and being a woman's not bad, but it's like no. 0 (56m 8s): Right. And I think that's why it's a combination of, it's why we both exist. It's why we raise children. It's why men have certain responsibilities. And I mean, 2 (56m 17s): And that, that being said, if, if, if, if we just stop women voting for like two years, we can, we can have a pretty, we could fix this pretty good. Right? Everybody 0 (56m 24s): Agrees. I don't think women really vote. 3 (56m 27s): I just do what my husband says. 7 (56m 28s): Yeah. 2 (56m 33s): The funny thing, the women voting thing goes back, 0 (56m 36s): Back to like, we just get ours at our ballots at home and I fill hers out for Yeah, 2 (56m 41s): That's the, that's because 3 (56m 42s): She's, I doesn't even let me see the ballot. 2 (56m 44s): She's still fucking hung up next to the radiator. See 1 (56m 46s): You change your mind though, with my household because I am, I've voted for Trump three times now. 'cause we had like to, we had a vote for him to be on the ticket in North Carolina. And my husband was in camp RFK and now that RFK endorsed Trump, he's looking at me and he's like, 3 (56m 59s): God 0 (56m 60s): Dammit, all 3 (57m 1s): Roads lead to Trump, baby. Yeah, 0 (57m 3s): No, 3 (57m 4s): I, it's really funny actually. You're like, I was hold withholding sex until my husband did vote for Trump. 0 (57m 11s): Show 3 (57m 11s): Me that masculinity, that toxic 1 (57m 13s): Masculinity. 2 (57m 14s): Well, I joke, obviously women should be allowed to vote. Sorry, sisters. The but the, it does go back to like Greece back 3 (57m 22s): In the day, we didn't think you weren't joking until right now. 1 (57m 27s): And now we have 0 (57m 27s): Questions. This is like when 3 (57m 29s): I got the B 0 (57m 29s): Women can also withhold sex. I not 2 (57m 33s): For long. 0 (57m 33s): Yeah. I can be like, honey, I'm gonna withhold sex until you vote for Trump. And then four years later 3 (57m 43s): She's like, oh, you were withholding. 0 (57m 45s): Yeah. I'm like, yeah, that's 3 (57m 47s): Not true though either. I mean, maybe it's different points in marriage, but I would be like, I'm voting for Trump. And my husband said that for like a week. I'd be like, I'm voting for 0 (57m 55s): Trump. Oh, good for you. We'll just, we just stopped naturally. Go on. 2 (58m 2s): What do you, what do you think, see as a single guy, I'm always fascinated by this 'cause this is something that everybody always talks about. Like, what do you think is a long time to go in a marriage without making love to your husband? 3 (58m 12s): Making love. I need to get decades going, you know, point. I mean, I think that, I think it's different for everybody, but I, I know from experience that we'll just start, maybe you can confirm this too. We'll just start like sniping at each, you know, just like there's like this, like me and I'm like, oh, we need to fuck. Like that's what, why we're, 2 (58m 36s): Because that's nothing makes a guy hornier than getting fucking nagged at constantly. 3 (58m 39s): No, it's not nagging. It's just, we'll start like ending na 1 (58m 42s): Snippy. 3 (58m 42s): You get snippy with each other. Yeah. You just start like you're short with each other. And we're not generally like that ever. And so if that's, I'm like, oh, it's been, you know, I think I don't, we, I don't, I don't think you should go more than a week unless you're like just had a baby or I don't know, you have some physical complication or whatever. But I think, 1 (59m 6s): I think yeah, anything over a week starts 3 (59m 8s): To affect 1 (59m 8s): The relationship. And it's the one thing that like bonds you romantically and makes that relationship different than everything else because you deal with, especially when there's kids, like so much Yeah. There's just so much life getting thrown at you. And I think think that you need those moments to reconnect and be like, oh, we're on the same team 3 (59m 24s): And we're like, we were here first. 1 (59m 27s): Yeah, 3 (59m 28s): Yeah. Before this 1 (59m 29s): Kid. And if not, then immediate. I, at least for me it's like we're now, we're adversaries. Like that's not happening. 0 (59m 35s): That makes sense. I was gonna say years. 7 (59m 40s): I was like, 2 (59m 40s): My last relationship, we been like six months explaining a lot. We realized honestly it was like four months before. 0 (59m 46s): So very long. 2 (59m 48s): I don't, I don't think we should be together anymore. Four months. Yeah. No, I think so too. 7 (59m 52s): I'm, yeah, 3 (59m 52s): A week, four months. 0 (59m 53s): I'm sorry. Yeah, it was bad. I just, is it really 1 (59m 55s): Years? It was really bad years, 0 (59m 56s): But No, no, not years. But you know, a week. 7 (1h 0m 1s): But 3 (1h 0m 1s): You're away. I mean, look, you travel. Yeah. 0 (1h 0m 3s): It's, yeah, it's hard. Also, it's hard when travel. That's the 3 (1h 0m 5s): Problem also. We're How long have you been married? 1 (1h 0m 7s): Oh god, nine years. Okay. 3 (1h 0m 9s): I'm on year five, so we're not, I think it's different seasons in marriage too. 0 (1h 0m 15s): Yeah. I'm 16. 3 (1h 0m 16s): Yeah, you're further, further down the line. 0 (1h 0m 18s): Ours can drive in Michigan. I don't know if they changed 7 (1h 0m 22s): The law. She's just 16 years 3 (1h 0m 25s): Old. Yeah. So I think that maybe, you know, he's traveling and 7 (1h 0m 30s): Travel. 1 (1h 0m 30s): Throws it for a loop. Yeah. We've been together for like 15 and they're definitely, 0 (1h 0m 34s): He's coming around back with 1 (1h 0m 35s): A carpet where there's long stretches, especially after a baby. 3 (1h 0m 37s): And I've had a lot of people say that it's like everyone's sexual drive is different. So I I just have like a higher one. I mean, yeah. The great thing about being married, it's funny 'cause all these single people will be like, some 0 (1h 0m 52s): Days Morningwood feels like a miracle. 3 (1h 0m 54s): Something. What? 7 (1h 1m 0s): Honey? 0 (1h 1m 1s): Honey, honey. It's working. It's happening. It's working. I thought it was broke. Oh 7 (1h 1m 10s): Yeah. 0 (1h 1m 10s): I also am 42, so I have to urinate. And now that's taken, that's far more important. 3 (1h 1m 17s): Not everyone has the same sex 0 (1h 1m 18s): Drive. I'm sorry, I didn't mean to I No, not everybody does. So 3 (1h 1m 21s): How do you confide is getting horny and then you Yeah, 0 (1h 1m 23s): And then I wanted to ruin it 1 (1h 1m 24s): Are screaming. Yeah. 0 (1h 1m 26s): I'm sorry. I should let you, the girls were 3 (1h 1m 27s): Talking about sex and the guys were like, I can't get it up for years. 0 (1h 1m 31s): Yeah, that's true. You two seem to be Yeah, everybody's fantasizing and I'm just over here like, that's nice. 7 (1h 1m 39s): Hey, sorry. 0 (1h 1m 40s): Oh, weak, huh? Yeah. Oh, okay. 7 (1h 1m 43s): A weak a week, huh? Weird. Yeah. I never go more than a week. Yeah. 1 (1h 1m 47s): Well, I mean I've been in some courses like intimacy courses and things like that and I've had the perspective of you maybe age out of it at some point. Yeah. Where the relationship is. That's just not on the table anymore. I and 3 (1h 1m 59s): Your friends. I think it's 1 (1h 1m 60s): Important. Well, yeah, it's not for you. No, no. But I was thinking like seventies or whatever and this coach was like, absolutely not. I'm coaching this 85-year-old couple and they're doing it several times a week. And that 0 (1h 2m 11s): Blew, 1 (1h 2m 12s): Blew my mind. Really? 0 (1h 2m 13s): My, oh no. I mean that's why there's like, you know, you look at a lot of these old folks homes and they have, they get Viagra and everybody's got herpes and they have that new form of syphilis chlamydia. Yeah. S syphilis or chlamydia, whatever made it El Capone's brain rott out and have em fishing in his s pool. But yeah, it's, yeah, 2 (1h 2m 30s): Because they think they're at the end. But with ai, apparently if we can make it five more years, we're all gonna live to be 200. So imagine these people that thought that they were banging at 77 of the old 0 (1h 2m 39s): People and they're doing it now, and 2 (1h 2m 41s): Now they got 150 more years to live with her piece the whole 9 (1h 2m 44s): Time. It's like, ah, rats. 1 (1h 2m 47s): Yeah. 0 (1h 2m 48s): But I mean, yeah, it's still like, it's still important I think at any age. Like, you know, 2 (1h 2m 53s): I, I think, 0 (1h 2m 54s): I think I find my wife beautiful, so it's like it is what it is. 2 (1h 2m 58s): Got it. Cameras are 0 (1h 2m 59s): On. Cool. I know it's pointing right at me. I'm really trying to, to keep my house. Love you 2 (1h 3m 5s): Baby. 1 (1h 3m 5s): No, I think you do though. Like there, if you are in a healthy relationship, I think after someone's given you a child, like there are, there's wear and tear that happens with time and things like that, but you see it in a different lens. And like, there's a difference between someone that's hot and someone that's beautiful. And I think there's a different level of appreciation and just like security in a weird way. Like it's like a, it's something deeper and less fragile than the other thing. 'cause the other thing is just so vain. I think so I think men, good men tend to see like those stretch marks or like whatever, and they're like, that was from that pregnancy. And like, that's so beautiful. 0 (1h 3m 40s): Yeah. I've never, yeah, I can't imagine not like caring about anything like that. Yeah. I don't know. It just seems very shallow. 1 (1h 3m 45s): Yeah, I think so too. Yeah. 2 (1h 3m 47s): But I do think familiarity breeds contempt. And I think in my next relationship that I think I take very seriously, we should each have our own rooms and our own beds. 1 (1h 3m 57s): Some people can't sleep together. 2 (1h 3m 58s): Yeah. And I think there's like, you lose a little bit of that kind of like that raw animal sexuality when it's like, oh, I move over, I gotta piss. You know? Like it's, I, some people love that stuff in my relationships for whatever reason, probably 'cause I'm a disgusting fucking ogre. But it's just, you're walking around in underwear all the time and you're not, you're like, and you're not having sex. And it's like, when we first started, we lived in two different places every time we saw each other just like, bam. But now we live together and it's like, ah, we can do it later. And no, well, you know, eh, she annoyed me now. Or like, I don't know. I feel like in some ways that separation and then the last one that I was in, she was, she got mad. 2 (1h 4m 40s): She was like, I feel like I'm always the one that has to initiate. And I'm like, well, yeah, because I, I'm always, I'm always down. I'm a yes. I just need to know when you're I get 0 (1h 4m 48s): That too. I hate you 1 (1h 4m 48s): Mean that though. I hate having to always initiate. I'll do it once in a while, but to me like that ruins the, like the power play of it. 2 (1h 4m 55s): But the woman is, see that's interesting man, because like the man, she, she would say like, the man takes the lead. Yeah. I'm like, the woman is, you're the hot one here, dude. Like, it's 0 (1h 5m 2s): So hard for men to see that like that 'cause it's like we feel Yeah, we feel like you have to want it, want it. When you're in a relationship, then just be like, come up and grab you and be like, well you have 1 (1h 5m 13s): To set the stage. So there's all that, like the foreplay that happens throughout the day. Like, are you making, making sure that she's not 0 (1h 5m 18s): Stressed out, but I already hitting her. 7 (1h 5m 23s): Oh my god. I'm sorry. 1 (1h 5m 25s): Doesn't she get it? 0 (1h 5m 29s): I'm screaming my needs. We 7 (1h 5m 30s): Were at, we were at the airport. Serious. That's my favorite episode. Were right 1 (1h 5m 36s): Though. We were at the airport the other day and like, my husband like went to do like this to me in the while we were waiting for a bag, but he was like playing. Yeah. And I immediately smacked his hand away. I was like, what are you doing that's just so inappropriate? And like, people, like a couple people looked and he goes, oh, I forgot that you think that's sexual. So it's inappropriate. Yeah. 0 (1h 5m 51s): You're like, oh, he was just 2 (1h 5m 52s): Actually trying 7 (1h 5m 52s): To kill you. No, 1 (1h 5m 53s): He was like doing it to like, just in his mind it was like a playful sweet thing. But I, to me, I'm like, that's sexual. Don't do that. 0 (1h 6m 0s): What's everybody around? 7 (1h 6m 2s): You're 2 (1h 6m 2s): At the airport. I don't wanna sit in the, for the next three hours that 7 (1h 6m 5s): Sexual 0 (1h 6m 5s): Everybody around you, they just thinks you had an awful flight and you're about to go home with a man who worked. You, 1 (1h 6m 13s): You're about to get hit by this marine over here that's looking at you while by side. 0 (1h 6m 16s): That's what I You can't do that. What? That's Oh, there's so many guys waiting to be like, I'll save the day. And you're like, you just hit my husband. 1 (1h 6m 25s): He was a really nice guy 7 (1h 6m 26s): There. 0 (1h 6m 27s): Yeah. Yeah. I knew 2 (1h 6m 29s): Weird man. I don't know. I, I think I, I, you know, every time I say this, people look at me weird, but I think having your own room, having your own space is like really, really important. See what 0 (1h 6m 40s): I do? I 1 (1h 6m 40s): Couldn't do that 0 (1h 6m 41s): For real. Like, I put on a ccp a mask and that just like, it drives her wild. And I don't know if it's like a, I don't know if it's like a, like a, a, a magnet, but women just start surrounding our house when I put it on. Well, that's what I do. Yeah. It's just weird. It's like, it's like a bears when somebody's on their period. That's how it's, they 2 (1h 7m 2s): Just, I walk around Miami just going up to chicks, be like, yo, what's up baby? 0 (1h 7m 5s): Even if I'm alone in a hotel and I put on my C app elephant mask and I catch myself in the mirror, I'm like, you better 1 (1h 7m 11s): Yourself. And you guys are wondering why that you're not getting more sex. 2 (1h 7m 14s): I'm getting sex. 7 (1h 7m 15s): Not, they's not wondering. Yeah. 2 (1h 7m 17s): It's just not much consensual sex in the problems. 0 (1h 7m 19s): It's look, IBS and a CAP mask. You can't figure this out. I'm doing the two things women love, diarrhea and snoring. 2 (1h 7m 29s): Dave, they've just gone through about 20 minutes of my material and like my whole scent is gone now. It's dead. 0 (1h 7m 36s): Sorry, I didn't mean to be crass. 2 (1h 7m 38s): No, no, that's fine. 0 (1h 7m 39s): I'll sit like this. I don't, I mean, I'm pretty good for what I look like 2 (1h 7m 46s): You're on tv. Yeah. So that helps. Yeah. There's a lot like elevens of people see you every night. So 0 (1h 7m 51s): She's got, I mean, there are 11, there are dozens of fans in this, in this world that wanna see some Dave Landau, 2 (1h 8m 1s): I tell you man. What do you think of censor tv? What happened with Compound? You were on compound for a while. You, you, Gavin, McGinness, that whole stuff. What do you think of what's going on there? Any, any comment? What's going on 0 (1h 8m 12s): There? I, no, I think, I mean, are 7 (1h 8m 14s): You getting censored again? 2 (1h 8m 15s): No, they're really, really leaning into like almost shocking for like hard Hard, right. Shocking for shocking. Like Elijah Schaffer and they're growing. I mean, but it's, it's hard to 0 (1h 8m 32s): Like, and I think, is he on there? I 2 (1h 8m 34s): Think he, no, I don't know if he is, but they're, but like he's irregular. The groupers and stuff are all on there. Are you familiar with sensor tv at all? 1 (1h 8m 40s): I thought that that was the same thing as Infowars. Like I thought it was the like 0 (1h 8m 46s): Sister companys No, that was Alex Jones. Yeah, but no sensor tv is Gavin McGinnis? Yeah. 1 (1h 8m 52s): I don't, I can't see a face. 0 (1h 8m 54s): Well, I, I don't know. I think, 2 (1h 8m 55s): Well they bought compound, compound media was Anthony Kuya and Well, 0 (1h 9m 3s): I think, I mean, I, the reason why honestly I left the show was because I thought that he was gonna go to South Carolina and it was gonna shut down anyway. And it did. So that's really why I left there. I haven't seen much of the new stuff they're doing. I, I don't know the far right thing it has its fan base. It just seems a bit dangerous in my opinion. I mean, I, I don't even know, I don't know like how strong a lot of their feelings are on it. But I know that anytime I did Elijah's show, and this is nothing against Elijah, but it's like the second I did it, I'm in Media Matters. Like, we did a thing where they said it was legal to kill trans kids in Texas. And I was like, well obviously I was like, I, I ran over six on my way to the studio and like, I just made a bunch of jokes about how I'd like, I had a tackle box of weapons just to murder trans skin. 0 (1h 9m 53s): Yeah. So like, but it was obviously like just mocking the idea Sure. That anyone would assume that would be legal. But then they clip it out and then they tell you like they're joking about killing trans. And it's like, that's not at all what I'm doing. I'm joking about the fact that you would be dumb enough to think that it's legal to murder someone who's a child that's trans. So it's like, I think there's so many people hunting that I can't imagine. I don't know. I I think it's a very, I think it's a very rough way to go, but I could be wrong because you 1 (1h 10m 22s): Think people don't, they just don't see that it's a joke. Like they don't see the obvious thing. I 0 (1h 10m 27s): It's not always a joke though. Yeah. You know, like that's Oh, for them. Yeah. Yeah, for them. Like, and, and Gavin has a huge following and you know, I know Gavin and there's a lot of people who see it that way, but it's definitely, it's a hard line in the sand to draw. And Gavin's experienced a lot of pushback. I've watched it the whole time. I mean, when the Proud Boys got called out, which was way over the top. And then when he got in trouble for me, Mike Malice and Gavin were on Anthony's show and Anthony was off that day and we were like, you maybe you shouldn't wear a Katana or bring a Katana with Asian glasses into Times Square right now. And then the next day it was a fake one obviously, but then the next day was like this proud boys carrying a weapon through Times Square in New York. 0 (1h 11m 12s): Like it, it just seems like a very dangerous road to go down. But I mean, if they're willing to, they're willing to. I guess I just don't, I don't agree with it. 2 (1h 11m 21s): Yeah. It seems there's, I think this is kinda what you were saying earlier in an effort to be, to push back against the woke things that have become like so anti woke. But a lot of it's just like, nah. Like this is, this is like legit racist. This is legit. 3 (1h 11m 36s): Yeah. Well yeah. And it's like using comedy, the overcorrection in comedy of like use, there's not all criticism is wrong in saying that you're just using comedy to be cruel. If you're, if you're just like a low hanging fruit joke that's like a, a roast is supposed to be out of love. That's not, you know, this there's, and even experiencing this myself, I think it was, it was something I always had to work against or be aware of was am I reacting because I'm feeling rejected? Like that's a very powerful force. Is the, 2 (1h 12m 11s): Am I reacting because I'm feeling rejected, 3 (1h 12m 13s): I'm feeling rejected by my comedian friends who aren unfollowing me. I'm feeling rejected by the dominant culture that I thought I was part of. And then realize that I no longer am when your tribe kind of kicks you out or you realize that your, your, the people you thought were your friends weren't your friends. This has happened to people all across the board since really 2015. It, I feel like in increasing ways. And I see a lot of people who get, like they, they just go from one ex extreme to the other. I was never an extremist. So it wasn't like I was some left wing activist who became a right wing activist because I'm just not inherently an activist. 3 (1h 12m 53s): So I think you see a lot of that. But it was something I had to be aware of was am how much of this is just me feeling rejected and reacting, like being reactive and 2 (1h 13m 6s): Wow, that's such a good point. I never considered it that way. That's really interesting because there is a lot, especially in this business, this business is 99% rejection as somebody that's never been rejected once in their life. Rejection. How would you describe rejection to how would we describe rejection? Rejection is when somebody doesn't want you. I know if you've ever experienced that, what happens when someone 0 (1h 13m 24s): Says no, it's not in your mouth 1 (1h 13m 27s): Over and over and over again. There's a lot of rejection. Yeah. 3 (1h 13m 30s): Having to, 1 (1h 13m 31s): What if you pick the wrong guy over and over, over again? There's a lot of rejection. 3 (1h 13m 34s): I mean that's the thing. People Yeah. I've, I yeah. 2 (1h 13m 39s): So in our business about 99% of it's rejected. Like, like it's funny. May 0 (1h 13m 43s): Have you get used to 2 (1h 13m 43s): It. Well yeah, but then you like lash out and I'm like, oh, I'm never playing that. I just was talking bitching you about to be dead club the other day. I'm like to explain, fucking never play that club again. And you 0 (1h 13m 52s): Just have to 2 (1h 13m 53s): Just fucking sit here and go, oh yeah. Even. But that's very interesting how much of it now you got you like all fucking inception. Like how much of my act is just the rejection response? Like what the hell's going on there? 1 (1h 14m 5s): Might have reached a new level of conscious awareness in this episode. 2 (1h 14m 8s): I know. And I liked my level of self-loathing. Ah, that's interesting. 0 (1h 14m 12s): It's true though. Yeah. It's all, I mean it's very po like you're spot on and then a lot of stuff. Yeah. It is just racist, I'll call it what it is. Yeah. And you'd be like, I don't really want to jump in on that because I can understand a joke. There are jokes that are racist that you can laugh at. Yep. And then there's just racism where you're like, well this isn't you. You're, you're using racism and disguising it as a joke, as opposed to a joke that you just happens to be racial 2 (1h 14m 35s): But the other people won't put you on. So you're like, I can have a million viewers. Like you do it. Like, you kind of go through it in two different ways. It's like, all right, I can have a million viewers here, but do I want those million views? And then it's like, well I can't get a million views the other way. You know, can I go on there and just be chill? And but now then you get patched in with these other people. You can't do it for that reason 3 (1h 14m 53s): Though. No. And this is how the algorithm trains you. You know, that it, if you, and this is again, something that I learned from Twitter was if you have a tweet that goes viral for one that might get you a bunch of followers in one direction, you have to immediately the those people out. Yeah. Because otherwise that algorithm is going, I mean, it hasn't been great for my growth or my bank account. I, but I, I can look in a mirror, I can sleep at night. I can, I like my audience. I know a lot of people who have chased the algorithm and all of the reaction that they were getting and can't stand their audience and won't. And, and they just have to keep going down that path now because that's the path they have chosen and it's where their money is in there. 3 (1h 15m 42s): So I don't know that that's that, I don't know how you keep yourself honest like that because it is, I was talking to my sister about this recently 'cause she's been a little bit red pilled and she was like, you know, it's weird because if the algorithms just picking up what I like, are we all brainwashing ourselves? I'm like, yes, yes. We are just, 2 (1h 16m 6s): Yeah. It's a big, 3 (1h 16m 7s): Yeah. We're just, it's just a loop. It's an we're red infinity feedback loop. Yeah. We're ourselves. Yeah. It's a, it's not you have you and it, I don't think, even as self-aware and conscious as I am, the algorithm knows me better then I know my fucking self, which is crazy. So even trying to be aware and conscious and not fall prey to those things, I'm still absolutely going to fall prey to those things. 0 (1h 16m 33s): Well it's, it, it's not even if you don't know yourself. I think it, but I, I get exactly what you're saying, but it is just feeding you, it's feeding you everything that it thinks you want to the point where you're disconnected from everything else going on. I mean, it's a great way to keep people kind of blind is if they can't see everything else. 'cause if you talk to somebody else's feed, it's like, is your whole thing rescuing dogs? My thing's rescuing dogs? But then it gets to the point where it's like, why are so many burned ones I don't want to hit. Like, like I understand that he comes out good at the end, but you know, sometimes you just wanna see a puppy getting a haircut 2 (1h 17m 5s): And there's a, there's a, there's a perverse 0 (1h 17m 6s): Providence of this. I'm glad I made a point there. 2 (1h 17m 9s): There's is a reverse profit incentive man. Because the, like even with the, these pedophile catchers now, and it's a great thing. They're catching pedophiles and all this stuff, but like they're getting millions and millions and millions of views. And it's like, 0 (1h 17m 21s): Some people, 2 (1h 17m 22s): You better, you better be right. You, you're putting this guy on his entire world on camera. And if you are wrong, like if you are wrong and you're outing this dude as a pedophile, or even worse when these fucking Reddit kids decide that the next swatting thing is gonna be, Hey my boy's a pedophile. Go look 'em up. And it's, that's then you're gonna have these LA influencers like knocking down somebody's door at fucking, you know, where they work at Publix or some shit and they'd be like, Hey, we saw you talking with this girl on fucking, no that wasn't me. The vigilant stuff's not good for tens of millions of views. You know, it's 0 (1h 17m 60s): Well, well vigilante stuff's not good 'cause it's illegal. Really? 2 (1h 18m 4s): Well there's a lot of things that are illegal that are pretty good 0 (1h 18m 6s): Buddy. Oh no, I realize that. But I mean yeah, you're right. But I mean people shouldn't be doing it. I do agree with the pe. Like if you have that solid evidence and you call the guy out and other people aren't doing their jobs, I think it's important. 2 (1h 18m 19s): Yeah. I wanna be very clear. I'm not pro pedophile here. 0 (1h 18m 23s): No, no I'm not saying, all I'm saying is I'm saying 2 (1h 18m 27s): I wanna be very clear, 0 (1h 18m 28s): You know, all I'm saying is as a representative of Bluff, that we should at least be allowed to have a convention at the holiday. A 2 (1h 18m 38s): All I'm saying, 3 (1h 18m 39s): All I'm saying is that it should be called maps. 0 (1h 18m 42s): Yeah. So that we can 3 (1h 18m 43s): Get rid 2 (1h 18m 44s): Of the stigma. So who was the first, I always want to know who the first person one that was like guys wi thought of something. 1 (1h 18m 49s): Scott Wiener. 3 (1h 18m 50s): I promise you 0 (1h 18m 51s): Was really, really, you know who it is 2 (1h 18m 52s): In a room of people? 100%. 1 (1h 18m 53s): Well no, I'm saying that but But it probably was him. 3 (1h 18m 56s): Yeah, it probably was in a room 0 (1h 18m 57s): Of people was like, I like that. Yeah, that sounds so much better. Yeah 2 (1h 19m 2s): Guys, there's no bad ideas. 3 (1h 19m 3s): Like advanced maternal age. 2 (1h 19m 6s): That was very funny. 3 (1h 19m 7s): That was very funny. Somehow this is not better. Yeah. Oh it's 0 (1h 19m 10s): Hilarious. 2 (1h 19m 11s): Yeah. I don't know like how what think tanks come up with this stuff and they're like, oh I got a good one here. I'm always fascinated where the shit comes from. Like who's the tip of the spear on this stuff? 3 (1h 19m 19s): Scott Weiner. Yeah. 2 (1h 19m 21s): Do you know who Scott Weiner 0 (1h 19m 22s): Is? No, I don't either. 3 (1h 19m 24s): A lot of pictures. He's a California representative. 0 (1h 19m 25s): He has the perfect name representative for coming up with 3 (1h 19m 28s): Maps though. And every messed up policy that you hear about in California, you're like, oh, big shock. They're putting tampons in the boys' bathrooms. Scott Weiner. Oh, you're just gonna let, what's the 1 (1h 19m 40s): Romeo and Juliet law with the, within a gay relationship is 10 years and like it because sodomy used to have a higher sentencing and now somehow it doesn't because it's stigmatizing the gay community. So now if you sodomize a minor, as long as it's within a 10 year gap, you don't get a harsher punishment because that would be mean to the gay community. Listen, if you're the gay community should be up in arms because that's insane. We don't agree with women that, that's insane. 3 (1h 20m 9s): Yeah. Sorry to interrupt. No, you're fine. Yep. Same thing. It's all every messed up thing you'll, you'll start noticing that it's always him. 1 (1h 20m 16s): Yeah. Leather and 3 (1h 20m 17s): Beaches. Like the guy shouldn't be allowed near children. Yeah. 2 (1h 20m 19s): Scott Wiener. 0 (1h 20m 20s): Yeah. And this is the guy who loves he got elected. 1 (1h 20m 22s): Yeah, for sure. He still has a job. He's 3 (1h 20m 24s): Very pop. He drives a lot of policy in California. Holy 2 (1h 20m 28s): Moly. 1 (1h 20m 28s): He did one with vaccines, like lowering the age of consent for vaccines. Lowering the age of consent is like, that's like a shoehorn, right. To get into something else. Of course. So he started that with vaccines. I think he lowered it to 12 or 13. 3 (1h 20m 39s): Wasn't he also the like kidnapping law behind that where it was like the states now like a sanctuary city for trans kids to come. 0 (1h 20m 47s): You can borrow one for two days as long as you return. 3 (1h 20m 49s): Well ev everyone kind of jokingly. Yeah. 2 (1h 20m 53s): Nice, 0 (1h 20m 54s): Nice. Well it's just so dark and evil. Why would 3 (1h 20m 57s): This person be charged? 1 (1h 20m 58s): Yeah. Look up all of the bills 3 (1h 20m 59s): She's pushed forward. 0 (1h 21m 0s): Yeah. Well sorry. Now literally allegedly, you know, 1 (1h 21m 5s): Whatever joke, 0 (1h 21m 6s): His name's Scott Wiener. I know. And his whole thing is about, 2 (1h 21m 9s): Is he related to Anthony Wiener? I don't think so. Also another guy that 0 (1h 21m 12s): Another gentleman was, 2 (1h 21m 14s): Was why do you think these people get elected? Like how do these people get 0 (1h 21m 18s): Elected? They're narcissistic, they'll drive, they'll step on anybody's throat, they'll keep going and they're evil. And I mean anybody who's evil and willing to hurt somebody, especially kids, it's not that hard to advance when you're a narcissist with no soul because all you do is care about yourself. I mean that's what sucks is a lot of people that are highly successful are narcissists. 3 (1h 21m 42s): Please feel free to continue this conversation. 1 (1h 21m 45s): I have to go. Alright. 2 (1h 21m 47s): Bridget, before you go, tell the people where they can find you please. 3 (1h 21m 49s): Oh, go to where? I don't even know where I'm, I'm like looking at nothing. I'm just looking in the middle distance or whatever. Where you go. 0 (1h 21m 55s): Where you going though, miss boy. To 3 (1h 21m 56s): Be a mom. I gotta go. I go to just go to my YouTube and Sorry, what is my YouTube? It's YouTube. 2 (1h 22m 5s): You fucking idiots know how the fucking internet works. Fantasy. Go figure it out. Fantasy. Put it down here. 3 (1h 22m 9s): Go to YouTube slash fantasy. That's where you can find me. Get on my free email list and Twitter Fantasy 1 (1h 22m 16s): Lincoln and al below. 0 (1h 22m 18s): Awesome. 3 (1h 22m 19s): Thank you you so much for having me. It 1 (1h 22m 20s): Was so nice meeting you. We'll have you fun to you to North Carolina. And we'll do like a girls episode. We need 3 (1h 22m 24s): A girls episode. 1 (1h 22m 25s): Yeah, I think so too. 3 (1h 22m 26s): Yeah. Yeah. 0 (1h 22m 27s): That's very rude. We're right here. 1 (1h 22m 30s): I'll just sit here quietly for the next hour. 0 (1h 22m 33s): Sip, 3 (1h 22m 33s): Sip 1 (1h 22m 33s): My coffee. 2 (1h 22m 35s): Just put her on camera every now if you guys guys have something to look at. Look at. But yeah, 1 (1h 22m 39s): As I'm putting the straw in my mouth and then go back. Yeah, 0 (1h 22m 42s): That's the one. That's all 2 (1h 22m 43s): I need the internet. Do your thing. Unless 1 (1h 22m 45s): I say something really stupid and then you have to explain it to me. You could also do that. Oh yeah, 2 (1h 22m 49s): Let's whatever podcast this, hey it looks something that you feel really strongly about that I could degrade you for believing it. 1 (1h 22m 54s): You know what's interesting about that is they recently had this girl on, I'm not gonna say her name, I don't even know her name to say it, but she's really popular in the comedy scene and you know who this is. So it's like a, a lot of things where we were kind of talking about using comedy as an excuse to say like hateful racist, like just mean things, right? It's almost using comedy as a license to be a terrible person. Yeah. And that's kind of this person's entire thing they have her on. But because she has the correct red pill talking points, like she's the good person in this argument and like this quote debate and it's really not a debate with these poor girls. And then you have all these e girls and they're kind of being cast off as like the thing that's ruining society. And I'm like, I don't know where we got to a point where sex pleasure, enjoyment, the female body was worse for society than like actual hate, racism, violence, all of these things. 1 (1h 23m 44s): But somehow it's got millions of views and that's just something that's kind of constantly perpetuated. So when you go into like the hard right rooms or like communities or whatever, you'll have, and I love the military. This isn't a knock on the military, but like you have such a wide acceptance for military and violence and you have such an acceptance for, I made another example. It's escaping me. Dumb broads. Am I right bro? No, but yeah, no, see I need my, I need my notes. No, but it's all of these things that were so quick to say are better than something that is just enjoyable and isn't actually hurting anyone because we have such a shame attached to it. Still like your Catholic, but is Yeah, perfect. 'cause that it's so true. 0 (1h 24m 24s): It's puritanical. Yeah. That's the problem is in our society we are very puritanical even if we wanna admit it or not. And the reason why I, the ideas of perversions come out of that is because it's shame. I mean that's why I think you see more of that in America than you do see in places like, I don't know, like let's just say you go to Amsterdam or something. Like there's a reason why if something's not shamed it's, it's not. It's the same as like if you have a kid who can drink wine when he is young, the alcoholic rate, you know, alcoholism rate when they're older isn't as severe as it is in America. Where now people are dropping dead in their thirties and forties of cirrhosis like never before. It's like 70% higher than it was 10 years ago. 1 (1h 25m 7s): What's cirrhosis? 0 (1h 25m 8s): It's when your liver rots away from alcohol abuse. Okay. And basically, essentially your body turns yellow jaundice and you die. It's, it's just basically an infection of your liver that's caused, not always, but usually by alcoholic hepatitis, alcoholism, that sort of thing. 1 (1h 25m 23s): The other examples I had were fighters, right? 'cause UFC and the PFL is huge right now. So another example of violence and then gambling is also cool. So it's funny 'cause in North Carolina it was within weeks of banning all of the tube sites and requiring A VPN to get around it. They introduced gambling online. Yes. I was like, this is insane. Hilarious. Are we gonna pretend that the other one doesn't destroy life? 0 (1h 25m 46s): The gambling is the worst thing that we can do to our society. It's going to destroy it. We're watching it get destroyed. I mean I absolutely am disgusted by the number of casinos that they put into towns, into towns where, where you have poverty already and then you put in this thinking that they're gonna be wealthy off of it. Then you have every single sports betting site. There's a reason why it was fine in Atlantic City and it was fine in Vegas. There was something to it. Or you play cards, whatever it was this complete gambling. Now there's more people who spend money on sports booking than they do on investing. 2 (1h 26m 24s): Whoa. And that brings us to this episode. Sponsor betus.com. Go to betus.com and use code s and t for 20% off of your first deposit. 1 (1h 26m 40s): I don't know if they're gonna like that 2 (1h 26m 41s): Tea. Join our, join our daily fast leaks. 1 (1h 26m 47s): Well that's Gerard versus evil. 0 (1h 26m 51s): Not that, not that they're bad. 1 (1h 26m 56s): Listen, 2 (1h 26m 57s): Somebody's gonna take your money destroy society. Somebody's gonna take your money. Let bet us. Take your money. 'cause you know, they give some of it to us. Look, so you know, it's 0 (1h 27m 4s): Good. Some of you can gamble responsibly. I'm not saying that you shouldn't go out there and enjoy yourself. 2 (1h 27m 9s): Ah dude, I actually agree with you. I, I think especially as a former athlete, it's already happening. The rigging stuff is already happening. It's already happening at lower levels. It's like rampant across Europe. The lower levels of soccer in Europe. Like there's these major levels. I don't know if you guys know how European soccer works, sports, I know you're a big sports fan, but there's like minor league levels. But the teams can go up into the big leagues and there's so many like old Russian oligarch oil people and they're like, there's so many of these basically mobsters that they buy these teams and they're like, oh I want my team in the, in the first division. 2 (1h 27m 50s): And the other teams are just like, well we can make that happen buddy. And they just rig these games like entire seasons. And it's like, you know, if you look at what happens over there, then for whatever reason it's not widely reported probably 'cause there's so much money involved in it. But like referees go missing players, families get kidnapped. It's fucking wild. 0 (1h 28m 10s): Well, and people are being thrown out here, you know, for just, you know, sports betting just on them on themselves or in college and that sort of thing. Like it's, it's everywhere now. Like it's becoming something that everybody's abusing because it's designed to be insanely addictive. It's not even just a casino which is designed to be insanely addictive. And if it's the legality of a casino is it has to pay out 80 to 90% back of what it takes. It doesn't, anybody who's been to a casino knows that it doesn't. Yeah. So it's like you're constantly being screwed by these people and who's gonna stop you? The government who's collecting all the taxes from that money, they're allowed to rob you. 0 (1h 28m 50s): It is a license to tax and rob the public. Yeah. In every single state. And it's disgusting. And it's basically they just go, well we saw Native American casinos get built and keep getting bigger and bigger and bigger because they were allowed to do it on their land. It's like, well how do we tax that and take that money then let's put it on our land. Let's make it legal and let's drain everybody. And, 2 (1h 29m 11s): And people think they're gonna beat the casino. Like one of the best lines from an old mobster I knew was, you know, you know when a guy would be like, I got a system. He'd be like, oh yeah, how big is your house? Is the casino bigger than your house? Their system's better than your system. Yep. You're never gonna beat 'em. And the thing is, if you actually do beat them, do you know what they start doing? 1 (1h 29m 29s): The blacklist. You can't. They ban you. Yeah. Yeah. 2 (1h 29m 32s): If you win, they're like, you must be cheating. Yeah. 1 (1h 29m 35s): That happened to Dana White. And then he, he got kicked out of a couple casinos. So then he pulled the UFC the right for them to fight, show, show the fights. And then he, I think one of them was supposed to be hosting a fight and he pulled it. Really? He was like, fuck you, 0 (1h 29m 49s): Good for him. Yeah. I 2 (1h 29m 50s): Didn't know that. Interesting. Yeah. 0 (1h 29m 51s): Good 2 (1h 29m 51s): For him. But I mean, that's the argument against, that's the argument against porn. And, and also like why isn't, why, 1 (1h 29m 58s): What's the argument? 2 (1h 29m 59s): Well, the fact that impulse control the, the, the argument against, well definitely prostitution and some people tie it to porn is that there is no impulse control. The gambler, the alcoholic, this person will just spend every dollar they have on buying this pleasure, on buying this. I mean, it's dopamine, right? I mean, at the end of the day, and there's people that want to destroy themselves. There's this weird self-destructive mentality. I know guys that win tens of thousands of dollars, they'll win $50,000 on a weekend of football betting and bet a hundred thousand on Monday night just to feel the loss. Yeah. 0 (1h 30m 33s): But well that's part of it. That's the up and down, that's the dopamine hit that you're addicted to. When you, you you're addicted to losing. That's what people don't understand about gambling. 2 (1h 30m 41s): It's, it's, it's the whip it's theda thing. Correct. 0 (1h 30m 43s): Yeah. It it's, that's what you're addicted to. And that's what's so scary about it Yeah. Is that you're addicted to losing and you're addicted to giving up everything that you have. In 2 (1h 30m 52s): Some ways. I bet that is what Bill Clinton's thing was. Right? Because he wasn't going after like, the most attractive women on earth in some ways. It was like, I want to get caught and I wanna see if I can get away with it. 'cause he did it so many times. Like there's, I think that there's like, when you, when you're always winning and when things are always so easy, some of these guys, they have this self-destructive impulse of like, alright, let me set this trap and see if I can get out of it. Bye. You know, we're gonna turn the Oval office into an escape room. You know, that's just my theory anyway on it. I, I think there's a lot of people that, and, and again, my time in minor league baseball kind of informs this, where some guys, especially with the guys that thought they weren't gonna make it, they start picking up an addiction or they start picking up alcoholism or they start cheating on their wife. 2 (1h 31m 35s): And maybe it's a stress reaction. But also, I just think there's something like giving myself an out, like, it's very, very hard to say, man, I just wasn't good enough. It's easy to be like, oh, if I had just stopped drinking, or oh man, if I never did drugs. And then people are like, oh, you were still good, but you had this thing and it makes you a victim in some ways. Whereas if you're just not good enough, you're not a victim. You're, you're just, you're just not good enough 1 (1h 31m 59s): Man. Yeah. But yeah, sure that definitely exists. But I always say that it's not the government's job to help you figure that out. Right? Like if it's impulse control or whatever it might be, that's for you to sort out. And there's always gonna be something else. If you take away the thing that's like their first choice, there's gonna be a second, third, fourth, and fifth. Right. They're not gonna stop because it's a personality thing. 0 (1h 32m 19s): Well, and to take away porn and then replace it with, with gambling. Gambling is absurd. Is insane. Absurd. Yeah. It makes no sense whatsoever. And that's up to people who can sit there and say, okay, well that's wrong. It's like, okay, well biblically, if you wanna break it down, then you can look at gambling in the sense of, okay, don't do that there. And people say there's nothing that says don't gamble necessarily in the Bible. But there is plenty of things that say, you know, like, this person loses so you can win. That's the entire thing. Yeah. No usury. And then there's literally a prostitute. Or at least you know, what we're supposed to believe is a prostitute where he is just like, yeah, you know, don't do that. You're, you know, you're better than that. 0 (1h 32m 60s): It's not, but you know, you're fine. It's okay. Come be my wife. You know? Yeah. And realistically, that's it. It's not, we shame that so much harder than something that's very much defined as the sin of greed. The deadly sin of greed. And to people with gambling that's greed in its highest form going against desperation. And when desperation is, all you have left is to start coming back because you're trying to get your money back because you've lost everything. Because now you've hit bottom and you realize your life has value, but you can't because the greed is just the thing that controls all of it. That's why we're losing as a society, we're so misplaced in what's important right now that we all have to lose everything to even feel what was once important. 0 (1h 33m 45s): Hmm. And I think for a lot of people, that is not everybody, but I think that's, that's the problem is we're to replace something like that or to demonize one thing, just to bring out the other, it's, it's, and as an addict it's like, okay, well you can't do alcohol anymore. Here's some, here's some crack, here's some whatever. It's, it's one after the other, after the other, after the other. And they know dopamine hits. They are designed at a casino, like a slot machine now. It's not a slot machine from 15 years ago that you saw that you throw some quarters in. It's this giant 3D thing that's designed to trap you and make it so you're a zombie. And you just put in everything until you're done. And any time you get a hit the tire, it's designed to make you want to get rid of it. 0 (1h 34m 29s): That's evil. So I think, I think as a, as a society that is so puritanical, we have to realize what our priorities are and what your priorities are as a person. And I mean, you're right. You may be looking for an excuse to get out by doing it, but I think a lot of the times, as everybody wants escape from life, everyone. Mm. And when you hand somebody something that can be that detrimental as opposed to just going to a movie, that's when you see, that's when I think you start seeing all the anger and the hate and the things that we're seeing now. 2 (1h 35m 1s): Yeah. It's a spiral. Yeah, 0 (1h 35m 3s): Absolutely 2 (1h 35m 3s): It is. But where does, to your point, where does regulation come into this? Should I move to the middle? Where does, like, where does, what is the government's role in this? 1 (1h 35m 16s): I think you just keep it transparent and safe. I think that's kind of the limitation for me. Like I think transparent and safe, right? It's not to tell you what is allowed, what's not allowed, as long as it's not hurting other people. So I think one of the biggest issues with the porn industry is that there is no real regulation because no one wants to look at it. 'cause that makes them feel yucky. So it's like instead of that, if you remove the shame and can you, you can look at the thing objectively. As hard as that is for a lot of people, well now you can actually fix a lot of the problems and make it safer. So all of these people that are trying to make it illegal or, or they say that they're just trying to make it a change, but like really they're trying to just make it illegal. If you're trying to actually protect vulnerable women and children, you would, institution, you would make ins, make regulations that would make the entire industry safer, right? 1 (1h 36m 2s): So you would have inter you have intimacy coaches for regular film, but you don't have them on porn. That makes no sense whatsoever. The testing is a little bit dodgy because there's different testing for the gay industry versus the hetero industry and they're allowed to cross over. That doesn't make sense. So if you can take your own personal shit out of it, then you can actually make it safer for everyone else. I brought up the point that because we don't respect it or treat it seriously, that when there are copyright infringements and then all of these tube sites that are stealing content and then anyone can load stuff, you don't know it's actual abuse material versus what is licensed, belongs to a person, belongs to a company. So if you just had like these simple things that you require of mainstream for adult, you would actually be saving a lot of people. 1 (1h 36m 46s): That's 2 (1h 36m 47s): The drug decriminalization argument, right? Like if you decriminalize drugs, then you can standardize them, people can grow them, they can be tested. It's, you know that and there's a lot, there's a, there's a solid argument to be had about that and it's kind of, I, I don't believe in laws that people don't adhere to, right? The public, or at least there used to be the public. These people were servants of the public and they were supposed to do what the public wanted. Now that's called populism and it's anti-democracy. Somehow the thing is happening, but the law is against it. Speed limits 65 miles an hour. Everybody knows that means drive 75. 2 (1h 37m 28s): Well then the, the speed limit's not 65. You know what I'm saying? Then when you pull me over for going 66, I'm gonna lose my shit. And they're like, well you broke the speed limit. I was like, did I though? Everybody fucking else did. And then that's where that, that well harsh in, you know, interaction comes man selling weed. It's like it's illegal is it though? Everybody I know smokes weed. Like I don't. But 1 (1h 37m 50s): Yeah, that one still is wild. That there's some states that if you just have a joint on you, you can go to jail. That makes no sense to me. And the, 0 (1h 37m 56s): Yeah. Billion 2 (1h 37m 56s): People a day or billions of people watch porn 1 (1h 38m 0s): A hundred. And for PornHub specifically, it's 115 million people a day. A day a day. But no one watches 0 (1h 38m 6s): It. And almost as much as my site. 1 (1h 38m 10s): You've been really busy. Oh, 0 (1h 38m 12s): You bet. You get after 2 (1h 38m 13s): Which, speaking 0 (1h 38m 14s): Of no 2 (1h 38m 15s): Congratulations on a hundred thousand followers, man, that's a real big 0 (1h 38m 18s): Thing. Oh on. No YouTube thank Yes, YouTube. Especially 2 (1h 38m 21s): With the content, they, they cannot not, you are not algorithm friendly content. 0 (1h 38m 25s): Not at all. Not no, 2 (1h 38m 25s): That's 0 (1h 38m 26s): Great. But yeah, it, yeah, in a year it wasn't too bad. That's awesome. You know, so Yeah, I'm excited about that. At least it's showing that it's going a positive direction. 2 (1h 38m 34s): Oh hell yeah, 0 (1h 38m 34s): Bro. Yeah. So, yeah. I don't know though. They, they're definitely not showing us to a lot of people. 2 (1h 38m 40s): It's a hundred thousand people searching you out specifically. 0 (1h 38m 43s): It seems that way. Yes. Yeah. That's awesome. Yeah. 2 (1h 38m 45s): That's really, really cool. Yeah. 0 (1h 38m 46s): Yeah. 2 (1h 38m 46s): And I mean, how you've been a guest on normal world two times 1 (1h 38m 50s): Twice. 0 (1h 38m 50s): Yeah. Nice. We'd like you back anytime. Yes. 2 (1h 38m 53s): Very cool man. 0 (1h 38m 54s): Yeah. Yeah. 2 (1h 38m 54s): What's the, what's the sketch about situation? You guys doing more 0 (1h 38m 57s): Sketches? No, we need to sketch. We've done a couple of them. Yeah, you're coming me in for that too. Yeah, that's what I wanted to do. She 2 (1h 39m 2s): Did a great job as aop. She did. 1 (1h 39m 3s): I didn't have a lot. 0 (1h 39m 4s): Yeah, it 2 (1h 39m 4s): Worked. What you did, you nailed it. Well 0 (1h 39m 6s): We have Derek Richards now playing Tim Walls. That's phenomenal. So that's, we're working on for a Halloween episode. Something 2 (1h 39m 12s): About that guy freaks me out. 0 (1h 39m 13s): His own brother just came out like something about that guy. 2 (1h 39m 16s): It's just, it's too fake. It's too, it's too much. Because what's your intuition? You've got the best intuition maybe of anybody I've ever met. What's your intuition on Tim Waltz? 1 (1h 39m 25s): That's the guy running with Kamala, right? That's right. Yes. It's interesting. I guess he's like super pro-abortion. Like that's like one of his main things. Like he all the way, which is kind of a red flag to me. 'cause I think that's kind of evil when you're like, there are no limits. I'm like, well it's, it's about to come out. It's coming out. So that's crazy. You see that 2 (1h 39m 47s): What they were giving out free abortions at the dance. 0 (1h 39m 49s): To me that is and a van so 1 (1h 39m 51s): Absurd. That is so upside down. Because here's the thing, no matter where you stand on like pro-life, pro choice, if you wanna call that, I say it's pro-abortion. 'cause that's what it is. It, these women a lot of times that have the procedure done are not okay after like there's a huge grieving process. That's true. They go through like this really deep darkness. You have a fricking like trailer that you're doing it in. Are you also providing the aftercare and mental health care after the fact? Are you following up with them? Is there any integration? Because to me that is wildly irresponsible 0 (1h 40m 23s): And the hormonal shift to bring it full circle. 1 (1h 40m 25s): 'cause you didn't even Yeah. And the hormones because you didn't even, these women didn't make an appointment. Like they showed up. Maybe they're in a vulnerable space and because it's so accessible, we talk about like the problem with accessibility, especially when it comes to porn. Well what, what about the problem to accessibility to a trailer where they're gonna just get rid of your baby because you're in a bad spot. Mm. Right. So to me that was like wildly reckless no matter where you stand on the decision. Like that was just, that was insane. It was insane. Yeah. 2 (1h 40m 50s): But the Yeah, but the dead predominantly vote Democrat though. So you know, gotta get a few more. 1 (1h 40m 55s): And the thing too, with that topic that I don't understand is if you ask most of the women that are really like, that decides their vote, it's you ask them if they've ever had one. Most of them say no if you ask if they ever intend on having one or if there's like a situation where they would see it. Most of them will say no. So they say yes and they're defending something that they don't even want themselves because someone else might need slash want it. But it's like, well who is this other person? Because everyone I talk to, it's like no, no, no, no, no. But for someone else, yes. So either they're lying when they say like they wouldn't, which is totally possible. Or they're defending something that is like really not that important. And there's other pressing issues that I think everyone needs to be paying attention to. Well 2 (1h 41m 32s): That's the point of it that I don't get is how that became the only thing that matters. And so to 60% of the voters in America, 1 (1h 41m 40s): It's a weird thing to obsess over. 0 (1h 41m 41s): Well, because it's, it, it doesn't really, I mean it does matter to a lot of people, but in the long run when it comes to voting, it doesn't, it's a distraction. Yeah, I agree. That's all they needed. They, they just need to put out there, okay, it's abortion, it's this, it's that. Yeah. It's this guy wants them to say you can hack 'em apart at nine months pregnancy this person. And it's easy. It's talking points. It's simple. Yeah. It's why Kamala the other night at the DNC, you know, we were watching and it's like, she did a great job because she didn't talk about any plan she has for the future. She didn't have to answer for any of her history. She didn't have to say any policy, anything. That's the best way to do it. But you have a room of people clapping when you've said nothing and there's no plan going forward. 0 (1h 42m 26s): Yeah. 2 (1h 42m 26s): She's the reform candidate to an administration she is currently in. Right. I've never seen any like, like this. 0 (1h 42m 33s): So you're saying I'm gonna change ev you know, once I'm in office. It's like you're in office 2 (1h 42m 37s): Right 0 (1h 42m 38s): Now. It's insane. You haven't done, 2 (1h 42m 39s): And these people are just like joy. I I, it makes me actually angry. It makes me angry. Sorry. 0 (1h 42m 45s): The joy thing is terrible to me. It's, there's joy and you're like, there's not though 2 (1h 42m 49s): What talking about it's 0 (1h 42m 51s): Terrible. 2 (1h 42m 51s): You guys are just like, you guys are the least joyful humans. You guys tried to make comedy illegal. Yeah. Now they're trying to recon themselves as the way the joy people. It's like what Mumford and Sons broke up because one guy didn't think like the others. 0 (1h 43m 3s): Yeah. You made a banjo player sad. Like what kind of a monster, like rupa pee. Like he couldn't perform the only, like the only guy who does it besides Steve Martin is because all of you threatened to kill his family. Yeah. Because he had, oh, by the way, because he said he read a book. 1 (1h 43m 23s): Yeah, he posted a book. Yeah, 0 (1h 43m 25s): He read a book. Yeah. That was his, his his horrible sin fucking 1 (1h 43m 29s): And it was a Thomas Soul book, wasn't it? Yeah. So it was a black author. Right. It's like the wrong kind of black. 0 (1h 43m 34s): Right. It's just, but yeah, they wanna look at it as like an uncle Tom as opposed to somebody who's a free thinker. And, and again, that's what books are for. It's your choice to take what you want from them getting somebody else's opinion. People didn't read, a lot of people read mind comp. It wasn't because they were trying to get the recipe, you know, it's because they wanted to see like what this was about. Yeah. You know, scholars, there's a reason it exists, but I think that's why it's brought up so much. And, and for me, I find it very strange for any guy to run around with this zero abortion policy. It's insane to me as I think it's insane for somebody else running around. Like there's no limits to this whatsoever. It's, it's not, and I've gotten in a lot of sh shit on conservative podcasts, but it's like, you're gonna tell me that somebody has to keep a rape baby? 0 (1h 44m 22s): And I've won an argument on that. But the, it's the reality cost 2 (1h 44m 25s): Of your job, eh? 0 (1h 44m 26s): Well close. Yeah. But, but the reality is, is like, okay, the whole idea is to defend this person that's all of a sudden inside them that they didn't necessarily want. And what that takes, it's like, well what about that person? This wasn't a person who, that had happened to them who they had to deal with this and now you want them to carry it out. And my whole argument was, I know a woman who had a, a, a baby who was brutally raped and didn't have the choice but raised the child doesn't know, you know? And I think that's wonderful as a poster, a poster child for why you could keep the baby. But you know what? She would've liked to have the choice. And that matters more to me that she has that choice than it does that somebody else can just win an election by saying that they're for something. 0 (1h 45m 10s): When really at the end of the day you can't control it. And people talk about it like, oh, you think they'll be back alley abortions? There'll be this, they'll, yes, there will be. And then you go, well, it's only 0.01% of all of them. Okay, well how many people is that? Yeah. Again, it's no longer about the individual. It's like, so you're still willing to kill off this many people for your opinion to supposedly save this many people. And I, and I know it might sound confusing, but that's because the whole thing is confusing. Well, 2 (1h 45m 37s): No, it's the ultimate kaka trap. There's no winning it. I like, there's arguments to be made on both sides. And I'm like, oh, good point. No, good point. And it is, it's, it's kind of like the absolutist of it. Well, it's murder versus like, you know, the baby is victimless here, the baby didn't do anything to you. And I'm like, well, yeah, I I kind of see it both ways, man. I 0 (1h 45m 57s): Don't, but even when it's a a you're talking about a troubled pregnancy that they know is a high percentile of killing the mother and now you're saying that they can't do anything about that. Well, 1 (1h 46m 7s): I don't think that's in any state. I think that's not true. 0 (1h 46m 11s): Is that not true? Yeah. I hope 1 (1h 46m 12s): It's not. No, that's like, that's a talking point to scare people. But there's never been like a point where there was like an ectopic pre pregnancy or one that was gonna risk the mu mother thing. Is that true? Yeah, yeah. 0 (1h 46m 22s): Yeah. Good. Okay then I, yeah. Yeah. I've only heard it as a talking point. So like I said, I, I hear stuff from both sides so much being on a news show that I I it's hard to decipher what's real or not. 1 (1h 46m 32s): No. Yeah. Yeah. That one, if it's medical reasons, that's legal and 0 (1h 46m 35s): Everywhere. Absolutely. Should be. You should be for sure. Yeah. And I'm glad that is. Yeah. 1 (1h 46m 39s): Well, we're almost at two hours. 2 (1h 46m 41s): Alright, let's wrap, let's wrap her 1 (1h 46m 43s): Up. Do you wanna like pitch away, like where people can follow you, support you? 0 (1h 46m 47s): Oh, you can watch my show Normal World on YouTube or Blaze tv. Subscribe using the code normal. You can get a heck of a discount. It is brought to you by No, I'm just, 2 (1h 47m 2s): Out of all the things we're gonna bleep out in this episode, that's gonna be, I know 0 (1h 47m 5s): That's gonna be the one that has to go. I didn't know you had a gambling sponsor, I apologize. No, I don't give a shit. Also, you could check out They know who I am. Yeah. Fucking they made their decision, right? They made a choice. I, I personally don't have a gambling sponsor, it's just my morals. But you can also go to dave landau.com. You can see me at upcoming tour dates and yeah, that's about it. I don't really have much more to promote than that. 2 (1h 47m 32s): Dave, you are the man. Thank you so much for taking 0 (1h 47m 34s): Time, man. Oh, thank you for having really 1 (1h 47m 36s): Pleased. Yeah. And thanks for letting us come to see you yesterday. It was so fun. 0 (1h 47m 39s): Oh, you guys were awesome. Thank you so much for coming. Yeah. 2 (1h 47m 41s): Yeah. And Bridget was great. We love you Bridget. Thank you. You were really cool. Thank you. Bridge. Make sure you follow these folks man. And thanks for this, this cool studio we have here in Austin on the road, the Chatting with Candice Gerard versus Michael Scissor. So 0 (1h 47m 54s): Cut it where I say something and Bridget just leaves. 2 (1h 47m 59s): There you go, editors. You you got it Don. There we go bro. Alright guys, peace. Bye. See you next time.
