CD141: BITCOIN ART AND CULTURE WITH MADEX

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A Madex manifesto.

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In the realm of creation,

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where the soul's expression finds form in color,

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sound, and shape,

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there lies a sacred covenant

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between the artist and their craft.

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This manifesto

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is a declaration of fidelity

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to that covenant.

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A refusal to succumb to the siren calls of mediocrity

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and avarice,

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which threaten to corrupt the pure essence of our work.

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We stand at a crossroads

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where the path of integrity

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diverges sharply

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from the road paved with gold, but lined with the hollow shells of compromised vision and diluted passion. Print money to do that.

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The charlatan,

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cloaked in the guise of opportunity,

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beckons us towards the latter,

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promising riches and acclaim

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in exchange for the very soul of our artistry.

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This manifesto

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is our resolute answer.

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We will not be swayed.

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Art in its highest form is an unyielding quest for truth and beauty,

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a journey inward to the depths of the human experience,

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and outward

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to the vastness

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of our collective imagination.

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It is both a mirror reflecting the world as it is

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and a window to what it could be.

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To reduce this sacred pursuit to mere commodity,

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to churn out soulless creations

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for the sake of profit

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is an affront to the creative spirit that dwells within each of us.

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The charlatan

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preys upon our fears and insecurities,

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whispering of a world where survival hinges on conformity

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and success is measured in material wealth.

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But we know that the true value of art cannot be quantified by currency or popularity.

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It is found in the moments of connection and understanding,

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in the shared humanity

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that emerges from the canvas,

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the page,

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the melody.

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Therefore,

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we reject the false promises

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of easy fortune and fleeting fame.

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Our commitment

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is to the enduring legacy

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of quality and depth

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to works that challenge,

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inspire,

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and move the human soul.

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We pledge to uphold the standards of excellence

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that have guided the masters of our past,

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even in the face of a culture

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that increasingly values the quick and the cheap over the timeless

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and the profound.

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Let this manifesto serve as a beacon

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to all who believe in the transformative power of art.

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In defiance of the charlatan's temptation,

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we choose the path of resistance,

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the road less traveled,

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fraught with challenges,

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but rich with rewards.

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Our creations

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will not be the product of compromise,

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but the embodiments

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of our most authentic selves and our deepest truths.

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In solidarity with artists everywhere

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who labor in the name of beauty and truth,

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we stand firm in our resolve.

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We will not dilute our visions or betray our talents for the sake of convenience or profit.

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Our art will remain a testament to the indomitable spirit of creation.

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A light that no darkness of mediocrity can extinguish.

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Let this manifesto be our vow

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to never falter in our dedication to the craft,

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to always strive for the pinnacle of artistic achievement,

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and to live and create in a manner worthy of the gifts we have been bestowed.

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In the face of temptation,

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we hold fast to our principles,

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for in the end, it is not the applause of the present,

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but the respect of posterity we seek.

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Our legacy

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will not be one of compromise,

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but of unyielding commitment

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to the excellence and integrity

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that define the true essence

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of art.

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Happy Bitcoin.

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What day of the week is it? Happy Bitcoin Tuesday, freaks. It's your host, Odell, here for another

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Citadel dispatch,

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the interactive live show focused on actionable Bitcoin

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and Freedom Tech discussion.

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I'm your host, Odell here.

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We have a great guest today. I'm dealing with a little bit of technical difficulties,

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which is that ZapStream is currently not working. So we have pivoted hard into the YouTube live chat, which is now shown on screen.

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But anyway, with all that said, that was the Madex manifesto.

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I have,

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Bitcoin artist and Bitcoin legend and good friend, Madex here to join me. How's it going, Madex?

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Oh, and I muted you. I'm sorry. It's one of those days.

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You're unmuted. No worries. No worries.

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Thanks for having me.

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Well, thanks for joining.

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Oh, we're out of sync a little bit here.

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Yeah. Did it just, like, everything just broke all at once?

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We're good. We're good. Everything will be fine.

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I'll I'll help you. Pleasure.

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So ladies and gentlemen, freaks,

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Madex is one of the best Bitcoin artists out there.

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He's one of my two favorite artists.

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Just shout out to Nogood who did,

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the album art for all the art for A Siddle Dispatch.

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But Madex,

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first and foremost, what was,

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the inspiration for that, manifesto that we just watched and listened to?

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Well,

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most importantly, it was created so

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that

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if I'm killed somehow,

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there's at least something

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left behind

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that can have

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positive impact

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now that

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I hope the rest of the Madex project,

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eventually does. So

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I tried to

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take everything

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that I was feeling and everything that I felt was important as a message to sort of anchor

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this,

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change in the way all products are made and designed and

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cared for as a result of Bitcoin appearing.

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And,

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have sort of like a touch point that, okay, this is when

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this is the moment where things shifted

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from

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tragic garbage

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fiat trash to,

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people beginning to hone their skills,

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seek improvement,

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reach higher,

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and,

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for for for people with capital to not settle,

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for bullshit stuff that just doesn't have any weight that can carry on any any momentum into the future.

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And yeah. So I tried to kinda capture

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all of that as best I could with just kind of the random footage that I had. I've been made x is a 10 year old project that's only now starting to get some legs.

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And so had quite a lot of footage lying around and I thought it was the perfect kind of,

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backdrop to kind of put it all to

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my journey from being really, really horrible at everything

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to a little bit better, a little bit better, a little bit better to kinda where I am now.

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And,

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you know, I think it's a good,

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just a good layout for anyone in the future that wants to kinda take on creative arts as as a career,

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and,

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produce cool stuff for the Bitcoin future. That's

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so do you did you do the editing yourself?

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So the primary,

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the the first cut was done by,

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Kinetic Finance,

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Julian.

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So he did the first cut and then,

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Aidan who's been filming with me for 10 years and myself, we sat down and did like the final, the final edit and the final cut to kind of get all the timing,

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sorted properly, make sure that the voice over was perfect,

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lock in,

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all and and then really match

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all the clips in a way that,

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that I I just wanted there to be as many Easter eggs as possible in the whole thing.

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So we really tried to pick out stuff that kinda has a link or has a has a meaning kinda beyond even just the words and the visuals there. So,

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yeah, dialed in that last part, and then I had a huge amount of stage fright and decided I wasn't gonna release it.

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And then, I was encouraged by,

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the supportive cast around me that it had to be released, and I just kind of got over it and was like, well,

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whatever. You know, it's gotta be out there.

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But,

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yeah. I got

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I mean, I think you crushed it. You really captured, I I think,

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a lot of the essence of your work. I mean, huge shout out to, my our good friend Harry, my cofounder at Bigwin Park,

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for being the voice over that I think he he really nailed it on

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voice over.

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Yeah. Yeah that was absolutely excellent.

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But I mean it's a complete change of pace for you. So to the to the listeners that are not aware,

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Madex mostly,

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he he focuses on physical art. He's incredibly unique,

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in the physical art space.

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Like actual like canvas

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and I guess paint is that I don't know what you I'm not an artist.

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But this was a a major departure from that while still trying to capture the essence of what you constantly ship. And I think you did a really good job at that.

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But,

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I guess let's just pull it back.

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You know, I think one of the most unique aspects

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of of

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of what you produce

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is

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is that you do try and capture this idea of, like, Bitcoin culture.

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Bitcoin culture and

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and how the world might be different from an artist's point of view,

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under a Bitcoin standard.

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When you like when you think I mean, you've been in Bitcoin almost as long as me or as long as me. I think we have basically the same timeline

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for a little over a decade.

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How have you felt like Bitcoin culture, like, change over time?

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Well, I mean,

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I think

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I guess we could call it culture now, but it's just the

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results

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of the change in incentives

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that that Bitcoin brings and kind of

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imagining into that future

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and, I guess calling calling attention

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to all of that. And, I think that I guess, like, culture or I'd say, like,

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community wise,

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I don't think we were really

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I think Bitcoin needed to be really

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secure

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for,

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the artistic

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conversations to really kind of start taking off because,

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beforehand,

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it was

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like

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invest everybody wanted to be early on Bitcoin, but it was actually like really horrible

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and fucked up to be early on Bitcoin.

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Extremely painful. And

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you will if you were early on Bitcoin, it means that for the rest of your life, no matter how hard you worked, you will

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always be in the red forever.

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And,

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that's a lot that's a lot to carry. And at that time,

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there wasn't really like

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I feel like I didn't have 1,000,000 percent certainty in Bitcoin until,

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the no two x stuff.

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And,

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we,

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that whole situation playing out that to me that kind of like showed like, okay, this is really like not fucking going anywhere and nobody and truly nobody can fuck with it.

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And then I think that just kind of laid the stage for being able to actually like

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being able to fantasize about what's possible,

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as this thing succeeds, and then

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try and shed light on on those futures. And,

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I guess use the dream of those futures

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to bring more people in to to have more people learn about what we're doing and and to,

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really

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share what what's possible with this little change of fixing the money.

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So I remember

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0 artistic conversations

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really in the beginning, in the early days. And then now,

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Did you freeze on me?

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Did we lose we lost Maydex.

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He's in the middle of nowhere with no heat, by the way, which is why he has

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a jacket on.

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I'm back. How is it?

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I'm getting mixed signals. I think the nostril chat is working now, but I'm glad you're back. I'm doing like,

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technical stuff over here trying to

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fix, but I think that was your fault. You disconnected.

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But, anyway, you were kind of rambling on. It it is Yeah. I think my

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It was it's been it's been a long decade.

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I mean, I I don't know who said it, but I mean, it's like, could you say it's 10 years in the next 30 seconds? Like

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so,

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where do we wanna go for this? First of all, to the Nostril live chat, I'm aware that it's working now, and I'm gonna try and get it back into the live stream. So for everyone out there, it's still dispatch.com/stream.

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Matex is having Internet connectivity issues,

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but that is where the nostrilive chat is. You don't need a nostril account

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to use it, and I will pipe in that chat once I get it going.

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But if you see me working in the background, that's me trying to get it up on my side. For some reason, I can't get it to work.

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The

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so, I mean, let's let's let's talk real quick about I I mean, I wanna go kind of broad here because I I think your perspective on Bitcoin is interesting, and

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we've kind of become the minority even though we kind of started as the majority in Bitcoin. And that's kind of where I was going at with the last decade. But one piece that I think is an interesting piece here is so you're an artist and you've seen,

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the rise of NFTs and

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digital art and and then it came to Bitcoin with with inscriptions.

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What's your opinion on those? Do you release NFTs?

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No.

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That that's your answer? It's stupid. Yeah. No. I feel like you're pretty bad, though.

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Any anybody with,

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any IQ

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understands that it's fucking stupid. Like, it

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it's one thing to be collecting stuff, but then another thing to be paying real world money prices

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for digital files. It's just totally insane. I think the large majority of it is fake. I think the large majority of it majority of it is money laundering,

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or just, like, pumping,

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that the same it's just it's just repackaged ICO scams. There there's no

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there's no differences.

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And, you know, the only thing is is that, like, when the ICO

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scams were happening,

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the scammers were going to major corporations and saying, hey, like, you gotta get on the cutting edge of this new technology and you don't wanna be left behind by block

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chain. And then now

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the mark has just changed because the corporations wised up to that, and they're like, yeah, this blockchain is bullshit. At least most of them did.

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so the scammers had to change their mark and the most vulnerable community, I think, in fiat times on earth is artists and creators.

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It's the hardest

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it's it's the work with the most passion behind it and the hardest to make a living in, within fiat conditions.

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And, so that so artists just became the new target and the scam went from telling asking corporations, don't you wanna be, like, ahead with the best new technology? And

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now it's with the artists, like, oh,

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you know, here here's a whole new market that can open up to you, that can finance you, and that can you can sell to you, and a whole new you're gonna be on the cutting edge of how the world is changing. And it's just

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it a total

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bullshit pitch.

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And then it distracts people from making

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actual work that can have momentum into the future and that matters,

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because people are fucking around with

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repeating AI gens and then posting the graphic files or just making really shit, like, pixely stuff or whatever. We've all seen, like, all the crap out there, and none of it is gonna be thought of or remembered,

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especially

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in the face of Bitcoin

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reigning superior

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and kick starting this renaissance of,

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making things that really are built to last.

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You you want you want when if something is built to last, you want it to be, like, fucking beautiful because you don't want anyone to tear it down because it's ugly. So you gotta make it really, really awesome.

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Love that. By the way, I think something happened to your microphone when you disconnected and reconnected. It was, like, a little bit crackly.

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Oh, shit.

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Maybe it switched to which microphone it's using.

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I'm still trying to get the Nostra live chat. I'm on an Airbnb Wi Fi over here.

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Maybe my maybe the ISP over here is fucking with me.

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But I'm doing that live troubleshooting, which is great. But we have a ton of freaks that are zapping us in the nostril live stream, so I'm trying to get them over here.

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I, Yeah. I mean, you've never shipped an NFT. You specifically are physical art only. In a world that is going increasingly digital,

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you have done the exact diametric opposite.

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Feel like that should be applauded. Like, that's

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that's amazing.

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Well, thank you.

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I mean, I I totally understand why so many artists went with it. I mean, for the most part, they were just naive and didn't understand the scam because they didn't, they don't,

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crypto is like this,

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total

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big monster of confusion

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to anyone who's new to it.

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But most importantly like in a fiat world nobody's really supporting artists and especially artists with

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no followings.

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And the the whole NFT

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stuff, like, really

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was a way in the beginning to create, like,

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income streams for those artists.

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the obvious issue is that, you know, what they're selling has no longevity.

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it can't hold its value.

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But I mean the first thing I did when

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the NFT,

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the day I read about the NFTs was

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realized with

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the open dime from CoinKite,

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you could if what they cared about that they said was valuable about the NFT was the artist's signature,

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you could mine a vanity address in Bitcoin and then use that address to sign transactions

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to an OpenDime and then physically attach the OpenDime

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to the piece of artwork. So you'd have a verification,

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of the artist's signature

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physically attached to the artwork.

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I I miss of course, I was, I guess naive in the beginning too. I didn't think it was about scamming people.

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And I was like, oh, okay. They're saying that like a digital signature

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has value in authenticating the art.

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So a vanity address and an OpenDime attached

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to any piece of art,

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that is

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that's a verification.

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And that's all the stuff they like to say about in the blockchain.

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And then CoinKite developed the Sats chip after that. You mix the two elements together because I think there is actually something there about, like, almost like a digital certificate of authenticity.

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Right? So, like, you're, like, literally

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attaching this physical

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Bitcoin hardware to the back of it,

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that has

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that that actually, like, acts as a certificate of authenticity. Right? But it's a piece of physical art.

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Yeah. And then if anyone ever wants to verify it, they can just disconnect.

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And and, like, this is the problem why none of this stuff can ever work is because

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you need

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like, just because it a piece of artwork has say let's say it's one of my pieces and it has the open dime and it has a digital signature from Madex,

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you still need a third party to verify

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that the art that it's attached to is legitimate.

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So that that's why blockchain never succeeded in fucking anything is because no matter what, when you're moving from physical to the digital world, you need a third party to verify it.

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Like, if you're putting blockchain

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tracking chips on fucking chickens that you're sending around the world, you need someone there to authenticate that that

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that it is indeed

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attached to what they say it is attached to. And then on top of that, you gotta be able to trust that person. And then there's a whole trust web

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off of it right away. So it's like that's why I know that stuff worked in the first place. So it's got it's definitely like a novelty thing. There's nothing like foolproof about it,

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in in terms of if if, like, Madex work ever got to extreme

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levels of, authenticating maybe a 100 years in the future or something.

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But,

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you know, it's fun. It's cool. And it's a way that you can kinda make something that,

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is older, modern.

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And, also, it gets people interested in Bitcoin. Because a lot of people buy my work that,

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are not

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Bitcoiners. They're just anti state,

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or they just you know, a lot a lot of the work,

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is based off of, portraits and people and,

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lots of hot babes and all that stuff.

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So and then when they see work that has the OpenDimes

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attached to it, it kind of starts the conversation. So it's like a little bit of a Trojan horse in in that way.

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And I'm hoping to do more of that kind of stuff because art is the most difficult thing in the world to sell. It is like the absolute premium,

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highest level luxury good. There's nothing more

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luxurious than spending $10,000,000

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on a painting. Like, if you buy if you buy a,

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you know, Pagani utopia, it's like $3,000,000

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or whatever. You buy a painting, it's 10,000,000.

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There there it's like that's just

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it's just really ridiculous in itself.

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A little spiel on that. Like, for a long time, I was really motivated by, like, these huge sales and these huge auctions and these,

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like, big artists that you would hear about, x y z sells painting for whatever. And,

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but later as I started really studying the space and understanding the art business,

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came to realize that and and

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thankful to understanding a lot about Bitcoin and about fiat incentives.

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It's all it's all fake.

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All those artists,

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all all that

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all that art moving, all that money moving,

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it's, you know, sure there's some suckers that get sucked in along the way that, like, spend 10,000,000 for the sake of just really wanting to have that painting, but the majority of it is just moving

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moving money in fiat ways that make it

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more palatable for the people who want that money.

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I'm still taking I'm gonna have the Nostra chat up any moment now.

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Yeah. I mean so it's not just first of all, I think you demean the certificate of authenticity aspect a little bit. As long as your private key is not compromised,

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no one can fake an original matex,

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with an OpenDime on the back. Like, it's it's actually

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Yeah. It's true. I mean, the the only

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they would they could, like, attach an OpenDime

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to something that is not a Matex,

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but I've also tried to make my work for the most part, like all the major stuff, like when you're getting into the big paintings,

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all of those are impossible to duplicate. Like there's no

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Chinese painter that can re oil paint a made x.

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They're just too insanely complicated,

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to to ever be copied.

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And they're that that's from, like, the paper tearing and the multi layering, building up all the all the layers, adding the different resin layers.

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It's just impossible

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to duplicate.

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On on stuff that

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is not as complex,

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then, you know, you could have people messing around, switching stuff, moving things. Like, take taking, an open dime from a small piece that's worth, you know, $10 and putting it onto

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a fake giant piece that's worth,

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you know, than and then faking it that way. But, like, you're you're right. I mean, there will only be as long as the matex key is not compromised,

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every single one of those

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OpenDimes

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is a verification.

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True. They could act they could take an they could take an existing

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Madex OpenDime and put it on a piece of shit.

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Yeah. Because there's nothing that links the art to the actual OpenDime.

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Yeah. Yeah. So I had a I had a site I had a site that was, tracking and what because when when I first did when I first did all this stuff, I was like, holy shit. This is fucking genius.

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as

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and I built

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a whole website that watches all the addresses. So all the addresses were tied to

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a photo of the painting that it was attached to with the front and back and then

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the transaction,

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the address,

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and then it had a green or a red toggle

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that and and

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what the site was checking for was if the coins on that open dime have been swept or moved.

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So if the coins had been moved then it would void it and it would it would show red voided. And if the coins were still on that in that address on that open dime it would be green.

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And, yeah, it was freaking sweet. It's still there just sitting there, but, you know, like, that stuff cost a bunch to maintain and, like, I felt like nobody cared at the time. But

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so I gotta get, you know, in in the future, I wanna get it running full speed with kinda everything new that's coming out and really have, like, a solid,

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base there, get it all updated. Like, I have I have a record of all the addresses I've ever funded,

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and you can see them all, like, through the vanity address.

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But having, like, an actual I think I had the domain, like, verify Madex or something. So

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By the way,

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22 minutes into the conversation, I got the Nostrilive chat up. I'm sorry, guys.

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I appreciate all these efforts. See all these apps we've been getting? Well, it wasn't these are the ride or dies.

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Nice.

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The

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yeah. So you touched on a little piece there. Right? It's like you actually put

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Bitcoin on the OpenDime too. It's not just a digital signature.

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So there's I I like to think of it almost like I like I think your art is worth it. I mean,

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I don't buy art.

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I stack sats,

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and, like, it's very hard for me to separate myself with Bitcoin.

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And like you said, art is a luxury good. But I have made the exception for your pieces. I will say that I usually get a print and not the originals because

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I still can't justify the higher price tag for the 1 of 1 originals. But the 1 of 1 originals

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come with Bitcoin on the back. Like, there's actually Bitcoin in

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there's Bitcoin in the painting. You know? Like,

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Yeah. Yeah. And so yeah. In select ones like a base value. It was like a base value no matter what in the art. That's way below the sticker price, but still kinda cool. Yeah.

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Everything was really on on track until

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the whole ordinals

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bullshit because,

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all the ordinals,

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flooding and spamming the network just made it impossible to fund the Open Dimes.

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And so my my whole, like, supply chain got fucking backed up. And then after that, I was like, okay. Well, basically, they and then also I had a couple that were lost in the mail

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and,

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or like stolen off people's front porches or whatever. So I made 2 changes. First change is that nothing ships with Bitcoin on it anymore.

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If the client wants coins, then we have to arrange it once the art is in their hands.

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And then also everything is shipped with FedEx, fucking priority tracking numbers, all that stuff. And that's why the shipping is really expensive on the site,

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because just things going missing is not worth the Wait. So what really upsetting.

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You load it up with Bitcoin after they receive it. But not all not always. Not all originals are gonna have Bitcoin on the back anymore?

476
00:31:38.275 --> 00:31:41.895
Well, I mean, I I haven't really made a decision on it.

477
00:31:43.070 --> 00:31:46.370
You should you should always give the public or not. I

478
00:31:47.150 --> 00:31:51.070
I probably will. It's just kind of a logistics thing, but,

479
00:31:52.350 --> 00:31:53.490
it's definitely possible.

480
00:31:53.790 --> 00:31:55.630
So and now and now,

481
00:31:56.110 --> 00:32:00.155
that all the ordinal stuff has kinda cooled off and gone away, like, it's actually

482
00:32:00.615 --> 00:32:05.755
it's possible to get small transactions through again. I mean, how big do you usually put in?

483
00:32:06.455 --> 00:32:14.590
Well, for a long time, I was putting a 1,000,000 sats on every single one, and then I found out that was fucking stupid. So then I started putting

484
00:32:14.890 --> 00:32:17.150
so I started putting fucking 500,000,

485
00:32:19.049 --> 00:32:24.110
and then a 100,000. So the the majority of them have a 100,000 sats on them.

486
00:32:24.650 --> 00:32:26.510
And then some of them have, like, obscure,

487
00:32:27.205 --> 00:32:29.785
like strange numbers that are relevant somehow,

488
00:32:31.365 --> 00:32:34.345
you know, numerology type numbers, it varies.

489
00:32:35.045 --> 00:32:39.385
But, yeah, I mean the ultimate thing would be to have everything, every like the whole

490
00:32:39.929 --> 00:32:49.309
guys, art is like a fucking super hard business. Like, okay, take take the hardest business in the world to compete in, the hardest business in the world to sell in,

491
00:32:49.610 --> 00:32:51.070
and then add

492
00:32:51.450 --> 00:32:52.975
that your primary

493
00:32:53.275 --> 00:32:58.655
client market is Bitcoiners, the hardest people in the world to take money from.

494
00:32:59.275 --> 00:33:02.735
So, you know, I've I had to make a lot of fucking changes

495
00:33:03.035 --> 00:33:19.630
and move things around. But I mean, basically, what's happening right now is I'm stopped. There's gonna be no more small Madex artwork. So I have, like, about, I don't know, 50 or so pieces left to finish and a couple others to release. And then once all that stuff is out,

496
00:33:20.250 --> 00:33:24.255
there's no more small stuff. And then the future is rolling

497
00:33:24.555 --> 00:33:28.735
with these jewels, which I don't know if you've seen yet. So I have not.

498
00:33:29.755 --> 00:33:30.975
They're very awesome.

499
00:33:33.035 --> 00:33:36.335
Yeah. I'm I'm a Bitcoiner who's gonna be selling gold and silver.

500
00:33:37.450 --> 00:33:44.590
Are you but you're you're still gonna make art pieces. Right? Yeah. But I'm I'm still gonna make the art pieces, but the art is just going to be,

501
00:33:46.010 --> 00:33:56.585
it's gonna be big art only, basically. Like, big big priced items and Oh, like size? Like big. Yeah. Like big big stuff, you know, like, probably like minimum

502
00:33:57.044 --> 00:33:59.625
size, like 30 by 40 inches

503
00:34:00.085 --> 00:34:01.605
kind of realm. And,

504
00:34:02.245 --> 00:34:03.705
Okay. I like that size.

505
00:34:04.320 --> 00:34:04.820
Yeah.

506
00:34:06.880 --> 00:34:15.220
And, instead instead of making small stuff. So If I go on your website right now first of all, by the way, I think I've told you this in person, but there was heavy drinking involved.

507
00:34:15.520 --> 00:34:18.500
I really like the idea of the one of 1 original,

508
00:34:19.125 --> 00:34:28.425
and it's I think it should have an open dime or a a Satch chip or what however you wanna do that on the back with Bitcoin in it. One of 1 original, priced

509
00:34:29.045 --> 00:34:33.705
appropriately, which should be high, I think. I mean, right now, like, it's, like, 6,000 to $9,000

510
00:34:34.310 --> 00:34:36.330
in in in fiat terms.

511
00:34:37.350 --> 00:34:37.850
And

512
00:34:38.390 --> 00:34:40.890
at that price point, by the way, I think you can justify

513
00:34:41.910 --> 00:34:43.930
putting a million sats on them again,

514
00:34:44.230 --> 00:34:46.250
which right now is, like, 600

515
00:34:46.630 --> 00:34:55.724
bucks, something like that. Like, a a a decent chunk is in there. You know? And if if Yeah. You can just raise the price by $600 or whatever. Just put put Bitcoin on the back

516
00:34:56.105 --> 00:35:01.164
after they arrive. Like, wait till the recipient confirms it, then you send it to it.

517
00:35:01.464 --> 00:35:02.204
And then

518
00:35:02.904 --> 00:35:17.970
I really like the idea of the limited edition prints, which is what I've been a sucker for lately at a lower price point. And but those should still be limited edition, you know. I think some of them are like 1 of 31. I think 31 is what you settled on for a lot of them. 34.

519
00:35:18.430 --> 00:35:18.930
34.

520
00:35:19.415 --> 00:35:20.234
I like that

521
00:35:20.775 --> 00:35:24.395
idea. Individually numbered, so you get, like, double limited edition about it.

522
00:35:26.135 --> 00:35:27.435
That makes sense to me.

523
00:35:27.895 --> 00:35:28.395
The

524
00:35:28.695 --> 00:35:30.474
the thing about Bitcoiners is

525
00:35:31.335 --> 00:35:35.970
we are also holding, well, a lot of us are holding the majority of our wealth in

526
00:35:37.150 --> 00:35:41.730
what I believe is the best asset of all time. So over time, you know, I think

527
00:35:42.349 --> 00:35:47.170
I will accumulate more madex pieces. It's just not at this point of my

528
00:35:48.035 --> 00:35:58.055
of my existence, am I willing to to justify it. But I expect to I I want I was talking to my wife. I was like, we want, like, a Madex room. Like, one day we'll have, like, a Madex room, you know?

529
00:35:58.675 --> 00:36:07.100
And I'm seeing someone in the live NASA chat. By the way, guys, as always, you guys are kind of the cohost with me. So feel free to put your comments and questions

530
00:36:07.400 --> 00:36:07.880
in,

531
00:36:08.680 --> 00:36:13.420
the live chat. Obviously, your zaps are appreciated. The show does not have any advertisers or sponsors.

532
00:36:13.800 --> 00:36:19.035
I still remain one of the few that are trying to do the pure value for value model of no sponsorships.

533
00:36:19.335 --> 00:36:21.755
So your zaps do go a long way.

534
00:36:22.935 --> 00:36:34.850
He's asking about displays at Bitcoin Park. We actually have had we've displayed Madex for a for a long time at the park, but we're we're about to ape into it in an even bigger way. It's gonna become, you know, one of the main

535
00:36:35.470 --> 00:36:35.970
showcases

536
00:36:36.430 --> 00:36:41.250
of of Madex pieces where you can actually see them in person, and then you can actually buy them directly,

537
00:36:42.430 --> 00:36:43.170
in person.

538
00:36:44.475 --> 00:36:47.615
So I'm pretty excited about that. I think that's gonna be awesome.

539
00:36:48.475 --> 00:36:51.695
Yeah. I have a huge crate that's shipping out to you,

540
00:36:53.675 --> 00:36:55.215
probably Thursday or Friday.

541
00:36:56.395 --> 00:36:57.695
I have a lot of stuff.

542
00:36:58.155 --> 00:36:58.650
So

543
00:36:58.970 --> 00:37:04.109
that's badass. Well, we're gonna Yeah. For for what it's worth, we've upped our security system,

544
00:37:05.049 --> 00:37:06.410
at the park and,

545
00:37:07.609 --> 00:37:08.109
and,

546
00:37:09.849 --> 00:37:16.695
Nashville, Tennessee. Tennessee is a constitutional carry state. So fuck around, man. Does not does not fuck around, man.

547
00:37:18.275 --> 00:37:21.575
That's awesome. So, the coins, what's the deal with the metal jewelry?

548
00:37:21.875 --> 00:37:25.415
Is it this is gonna be an addition is it, like, a lower price point or

549
00:37:26.390 --> 00:37:33.210
easier Yeah. Well, the I mean, the main thing is is that, like, my timing was super fucking bad. Like, I,

550
00:37:34.150 --> 00:37:43.335
rented out a huge warehouse. I hired some staff to help me. I, like, put in a whole bunch of expansion plans and then FTX happened like a month later. Yeah.

551
00:37:43.954 --> 00:37:49.175
And so how I handled like this bear market that we went through is basically like

552
00:37:49.954 --> 00:37:50.454
flooded

553
00:37:50.755 --> 00:37:51.575
art out.

554
00:37:53.290 --> 00:37:56.750
And didn't even really, like, I was just I'm, like,

555
00:37:58.329 --> 00:37:59.550
if it's fucking

556
00:38:00.089 --> 00:38:03.230
bear market, like, let's get original work flowing

557
00:38:03.690 --> 00:38:04.190
and

558
00:38:06.095 --> 00:38:09.714
get it out at a good price and, like, keep everything rolling at Madex.

559
00:38:10.655 --> 00:38:17.075
And I never really and I I had this kinda, like, attitude about prints at that time. I didn't wanna do prints.

560
00:38:17.375 --> 00:38:17.875
And

561
00:38:19.390 --> 00:38:29.010
I guess I kind of realized that I wanna do more than like sit in a studio hunched over art for hours and hours and hours and hours and hours.

562
00:38:29.390 --> 00:38:32.235
And like, don't get me wrong, I love it. But like,

563
00:38:32.715 --> 00:38:33.695
when it's, like,

564
00:38:33.995 --> 00:38:35.615
week over week over week,

565
00:38:35.915 --> 00:38:36.415
and

566
00:38:37.195 --> 00:38:39.375
all of a sudden I was, like, well, it really

567
00:38:41.115 --> 00:38:41.615
I

568
00:38:42.155 --> 00:38:45.375
a, people not everyone can afford an original piece.

569
00:38:45.755 --> 00:38:51.190
And then b, I kinda realized that every single one of those prints going out there is sort of,

570
00:38:52.869 --> 00:38:59.130
it's just awesome. I don't know. I don't think that, like, only people who are ballers should be able to have Madex stuff.

571
00:39:00.494 --> 00:39:00.994
So

572
00:39:01.855 --> 00:39:10.194
that's kind of the plan now is basically do like the big paintings at that high price point and then do limited series print additions of them.

573
00:39:13.140 --> 00:39:14.200
And then the primary

574
00:39:14.579 --> 00:39:19.160
is what I realized, like, my most common feedback from doing this for so long

575
00:39:19.619 --> 00:39:22.280
is made x, love your stuff.

576
00:39:22.740 --> 00:39:24.040
You're fucking awesome,

577
00:39:24.995 --> 00:39:26.375
but I don't have a house

578
00:39:27.155 --> 00:39:32.295
slash my wife doesn't want AK 40 sevens and hot women on the walls.

579
00:39:32.995 --> 00:39:33.495
And,

580
00:39:34.675 --> 00:39:35.735
so, you know,

581
00:39:36.515 --> 00:39:39.015
otherwise, I totally buy your stuff. So,

582
00:39:39.560 --> 00:39:43.900
you know, I'll show this here. You're not gonna be able to, you're not gonna be able to see it really at all. I don't think.

583
00:39:44.600 --> 00:39:45.100
Yeah.

584
00:39:45.560 --> 00:39:46.060
But,

585
00:39:46.440 --> 00:39:46.940
so

586
00:39:47.400 --> 00:39:48.780
this is, I guess,

587
00:39:49.080 --> 00:39:51.740
jokingly I can say it's madex to go.

588
00:39:53.325 --> 00:39:53.825
So,

589
00:39:54.445 --> 00:39:59.265
you you don't have a house? Well, don't worry. I got a whole suite of all this kind of awesome stuff,

590
00:40:00.445 --> 00:40:15.289
that you can load up on and, you know, take art on the go. Because No, it's an addition to it. It's not like a pivot. It's an addition to it. No, it's, I mean, it's a pivot as in like the art is just got to become more fucking scarce because it takes so much of my time.

591
00:40:16.569 --> 00:40:18.730
And not only that, it's like, it's,

592
00:40:21.325 --> 00:40:22.065
it's just

593
00:40:22.445 --> 00:40:24.225
you you when you start

594
00:40:24.525 --> 00:40:29.025
putting energy into a painting that's gonna take, like, 20, 500

595
00:40:29.325 --> 00:40:37.119
hours to complete it or even a 100 hours or even, like, a 10 hour one or even, like, a 5 hour one.

596
00:40:37.579 --> 00:40:38.079
And

597
00:40:39.660 --> 00:40:40.319
if you

598
00:40:41.020 --> 00:40:47.920
you like, every single thing I've ever fucking made, I had no fucking idea if anyone would care at all.

599
00:40:48.395 --> 00:40:50.655
You just kinda like try something

600
00:40:51.115 --> 00:40:58.415
and you make something that you want to exist and then you put it out there. So like all for for example, like on the website right now,

601
00:40:59.275 --> 00:41:05.530
I think there's a couple pieces on there that are like the best fucking things I have ever fucking made.

602
00:41:06.390 --> 00:41:08.570
And they were put up at at same

603
00:41:08.950 --> 00:41:10.570
size, same amount of time,

604
00:41:11.590 --> 00:41:16.090
same detail as other pieces that sold in 30 minutes.

605
00:41:16.725 --> 00:41:25.865
And they've been sitting there for 8 months. Right? So, you know, I think they're sick, but, like, I guess, I don't know. You just you gotta find your market. So it's really difficult to, like,

606
00:41:26.325 --> 00:41:28.425
produce really big, amazing stuff

607
00:41:29.310 --> 00:41:39.250
when you have to manage, like, your monthly cash flows and your expenses and everything. And I, you know, I can't like I got I got to keep the electricity going. And I gotta, you know,

608
00:41:39.550 --> 00:41:45.095
hopefully never have to sell Bitcoin ever again, because the last bear market was horrible.

609
00:41:47.795 --> 00:41:52.215
And so the idea is basically to cash flow the business with with the jewelry,

610
00:41:53.475 --> 00:41:59.415
and then that kinda buys me the time to be able to really, like, make some fucking meaningful

611
00:41:59.875 --> 00:42:01.150
large scale work,

612
00:42:02.890 --> 00:42:05.210
and and be able to pro provide that. So

613
00:42:07.130 --> 00:42:07.970
I, I

614
00:42:08.730 --> 00:42:09.610
that. I,

615
00:42:11.450 --> 00:42:16.385
that makes that that makes complete sense to me. I mean, it's it's as someone whose income is also

616
00:42:16.685 --> 00:42:18.465
very much tied to Bitcoin,

617
00:42:20.525 --> 00:42:22.625
managing liquidity in a bear market,

618
00:42:23.085 --> 00:42:25.745
when your income goes down at the same time as your savings

619
00:42:26.765 --> 00:42:27.265
is

620
00:42:27.860 --> 00:42:28.920
is quite brutal.

621
00:42:29.940 --> 00:42:30.440
And

622
00:42:31.060 --> 00:42:34.680
I I don't think people really appreciate it until they live it.

623
00:42:35.620 --> 00:42:36.120
And,

624
00:42:37.140 --> 00:42:47.954
so as a result, the goal is always to try and increase cash flow as much as possible, reduce expenses as much possible to give yourself some look at room. Yeah. I will say, the proof of work that you put into your into your art

625
00:42:48.255 --> 00:42:55.714
is is very evident, and I'm not, like, an artistic eye. I don't I don't think I'm, like, particularly artist I just think it's badass, but I also,

626
00:42:56.049 --> 00:42:58.549
like, you can feel it. You can feel that it's different

627
00:42:58.849 --> 00:43:02.470
than a lot of the art you see out there. I mean, most art does not

628
00:43:03.170 --> 00:43:06.309
even come close to separating me from my sats,

629
00:43:06.609 --> 00:43:11.750
and you come much closer. It is a funny dynamic with Bitcoiners, specifically with the 1 on 1 pieces,

630
00:43:12.255 --> 00:43:15.075
because there are a couple on there that I really want.

631
00:43:16.174 --> 00:43:17.615
And it's kind of a

632
00:43:18.575 --> 00:43:23.234
I'm in a Mexican standoff with the other Bitcoiners that are aware of you. Because if Bitcoin

633
00:43:23.775 --> 00:43:26.515
if Bitcoin plumps, if I can get in there and buy it

634
00:43:27.060 --> 00:43:28.440
before someone else does,

635
00:43:28.900 --> 00:43:38.760
and it's like so there's definitely at least there's at least a dozen other people that probably have their eyes on the same piece of art. Right? And we're all Yeah. We're all using the same savings mechanism,

636
00:43:39.220 --> 00:43:51.605
and we're all pricing it against the same thing. And we're all sitting there, like, tomorrow, will it be gone? Or can I wait can I wait another day? I think I could wait another day. And it's it's kind of like the Mexican standoff. And meanwhile, you need to, like, pay rent and pay expenses.

637
00:43:52.145 --> 00:43:54.805
So you're, like, the 3rd character in the mic.

638
00:43:56.040 --> 00:44:02.220
We're getting the crack on your mic again, by the way. I don't know. Oh, fuck. Here. Does it keep switching which mic?

639
00:44:05.640 --> 00:44:06.380
You're good.

640
00:44:07.734 --> 00:44:14.875
I lost the crack. Oh, no. No. Hey. How's that? Check check. You're good. Did it, like, switch mics or something? Yeah. I don't know what it is. But

641
00:44:16.135 --> 00:44:19.015
but, yeah, it is Well, it did last time, but, anyway

642
00:44:19.575 --> 00:44:20.795
But I like the accessibility.

643
00:44:21.494 --> 00:44:27.070
I because I wanna support you. I wanna look at the art. Right? This is another thing that's different with digital.

644
00:44:27.690 --> 00:44:28.190
Like,

645
00:44:29.130 --> 00:44:36.510
to me, like, art is something I should feel. It's something I should live. Right? And it should be Yeah. Like, on my wall proudly displayed.

646
00:44:36.924 --> 00:44:42.305
And the prints just make it more accessible. Right? It it makes it the prints make it an impulse buy

647
00:44:42.765 --> 00:44:44.065
while the one of ones

648
00:44:44.684 --> 00:44:59.870
with still having a limited edition aspect to it. It's not like you're gonna I mean, we're trusting you, but I assume you're gonna hold up your end of the bargain and not just like Oh, I could I could tell you I will. It's such a it is such a pain in the ass to fucking make those prints. I had an artist come in the studio the other day,

649
00:45:00.330 --> 00:45:03.470
who was just visiting me because he wanted to see, like, the workspace.

650
00:45:04.250 --> 00:45:04.490
And,

651
00:45:05.984 --> 00:45:07.765
he saw, like, this whole stack

652
00:45:08.065 --> 00:45:13.444
getting signed, and he was like, what what's going on here? And then I was like, this is the whole signing

653
00:45:14.065 --> 00:45:17.125
process. And he's like, oh, cool. Show me your signing process.

654
00:45:17.940 --> 00:45:32.280
So I I showed him the signing process, and he's like, dude, people should be paying a $1,000 for every print with all the fucking shit you do. And then he was telling me that he just, like, fucking pencil squibbles and then ships his stuff off. And I'm like, okay. Well, you know,

655
00:45:32.855 --> 00:45:35.835
I don't know. I I like It's a fiat mentality.

656
00:45:37.015 --> 00:45:37.914
It's a fiat mentality.

657
00:45:38.694 --> 00:45:43.674
You know, but what's weird is that there's, like, there's a balance to it too. Like, you know, I need to have some things

658
00:45:44.055 --> 00:45:44.875
like that,

659
00:45:45.660 --> 00:45:51.839
that are that are accessible as well. Like, I really fucked up in Prague because I didn't have anything at a lower price point.

660
00:45:52.900 --> 00:45:57.440
So Yeah. You need the info. I I can't Yeah. I needed, like, a $30,

661
00:45:58.380 --> 00:46:00.875
$20, $40, whatever euro or,

662
00:46:01.434 --> 00:46:03.934
crowns or whatever they call them, coronas,

663
00:46:04.714 --> 00:46:08.395
print there, and I didn't have that. So next year, a 100%, I'll have that,

664
00:46:10.234 --> 00:46:11.694
because you just

665
00:46:12.635 --> 00:46:15.275
yeah. I don't know. Europe's a different place.

666
00:46:16.315 --> 00:46:20.100
We'll we'll see what Lugano's like, but, like, you know, Miami, like, I

667
00:46:20.900 --> 00:46:33.995
like, Miami, everybody was buying stuff and it was just, like, ripping and, you know, everyone knew who I was and it was fucking sweet. And I I guess I kinda, like, you know, you start off retarded no matter what you're doing. And so me coming into Europe to do the big exhibition

668
00:46:34.375 --> 00:46:35.835
at BTC Prague,

669
00:46:36.535 --> 00:46:45.080
I just kinda had, I guess, a little I was very humbled by the whole experience because people are the Europeans are, like, I don't give a fuck. Also, who the fuck are you? Also,

670
00:46:45.619 --> 00:46:50.359
you know, one guy was, like, 40 he's, like, €40 for a t shirt. That's insane.

671
00:46:51.619 --> 00:46:58.515
And I because because everything's cheaper there. Right? Everything is, like, way cheaper here. Like, in America, $40 for a t shirt is fully normal.

672
00:46:59.615 --> 00:47:03.075
Over there, he's like, that's fucking insane. And I'm like, well, you know,

673
00:47:03.455 --> 00:47:06.595
I'm actually kind of giving it away to you because

674
00:47:06.975 --> 00:47:10.035
it was silk screened in my studio in Alberta.

675
00:47:10.400 --> 00:47:12.020
It was put on a fucking

676
00:47:12.640 --> 00:47:14.980
airplane. It was flown across the ocean.

677
00:47:15.360 --> 00:47:18.980
Like, a a lot of effort went into getting this t shirt here.

678
00:47:19.360 --> 00:47:23.460
On the on the digital stuff on the digital stuff, I just wanted to say, like,

679
00:47:24.065 --> 00:47:28.244
print, like, something I've been doing recently that's awesome is just printing

680
00:47:29.025 --> 00:47:29.525
photos

681
00:47:29.825 --> 00:47:31.285
from, my iPhone.

682
00:47:33.345 --> 00:47:38.805
Like, getting them printed as if they were shot on film. You know, you'd go and drop off a roll and get a deck of film.

683
00:47:39.440 --> 00:47:50.500
Getting iPhone photos printed like that and having a deck of them. And, man, just and when you do that, just put the photo on your iPhone next to the printed photo, and you'll just a bazillion percent

684
00:47:51.440 --> 00:47:54.019
for the final time realize why

685
00:47:54.425 --> 00:47:56.845
all the NFT stuff is bullshit. Yeah.

686
00:47:57.305 --> 00:47:59.405
Fair enough. I mean, look, I

687
00:48:00.744 --> 00:48:08.765
historically, a lot of artists haven't even been appreciated till after they die. I mean, it's it's it's something that requires a lot of proof of work. People need to understand

688
00:48:09.320 --> 00:48:15.400
like it's a it's a it's a long term grind, and I think you've been doing it for a while. And it shows and it's I think it

689
00:48:16.040 --> 00:48:22.744
just for a little pep talk, a little therapy session here, like, I I think it's starting to compound and just starting to get real momentum.

690
00:48:23.684 --> 00:48:27.545
I know specifically myself, you know, I I feel that,

691
00:48:28.325 --> 00:48:29.625
which is one of the reasons

692
00:48:30.085 --> 00:48:32.345
why I'm I'm willing like, you're

693
00:48:32.805 --> 00:48:36.904
like, why I'm buying your art in the first place even though they're just prints right now,

694
00:48:37.230 --> 00:48:38.770
and why I have you on the show.

695
00:48:39.150 --> 00:48:43.570
Because it to me, it's it's very unique in that regard. In in a world of a lot of

696
00:48:44.030 --> 00:48:45.570
fiat trash and bullshit,

697
00:48:46.430 --> 00:49:00.785
your art does stand apart, but it it it requires, like, a little bit of education and people to realize how much work has gone into it. So some people just might not be aware of it. Lugano obviously is a higher it's, like, one of the most expensive cities I've ever been to.

698
00:49:01.165 --> 00:49:06.210
So we'll see how much success you have there, but, I mean, don't sell yourself short. Like, a lot of it is

699
00:49:06.770 --> 00:49:09.250
is you actually putting value on yourself and,

700
00:49:10.450 --> 00:49:17.109
and pricing things accordingly. And and some of these things will take some I mean, once again, like, on these one of one things,

701
00:49:17.810 --> 00:49:36.569
like, I'm laying in bed some nights, and I'm like, do I buy it? Should I buy it? Yeah, man. I see the carts. Right? Like, I I see the carts where guys, like, go and fill up carts and then, like, abandon the carts, like, in on the back end. I did that. So, like, there there's a bunch of guys who, like, every every, like, month or so, they'll add

702
00:49:36.869 --> 00:49:40.970
these there's 2 pieces that I'm just, like, they're gonna fucking go at any second.

703
00:49:41.270 --> 00:49:48.810
And I'll I'll see, like, the cart things from it being, like, that it was added to the cart, but then, you know, they didn't didn't make it to the checkout.

704
00:49:49.349 --> 00:49:55.285
And I just think it's hilarious because it's like the same guys coming back. I'm like, I know it's gonna land at some point, like,

705
00:49:55.905 --> 00:49:56.645
you know?

706
00:49:57.105 --> 00:49:57.845
Okay. Well,

707
00:49:58.545 --> 00:50:02.325
everyone, his art you can buy his art. You can see his art. Madix.art

708
00:50:03.230 --> 00:50:05.809
is the website. You can pay in Bitcoin or dollars.

709
00:50:06.109 --> 00:50:08.049
Just keep in mind, if you pay in dollars,

710
00:50:08.910 --> 00:50:11.329
madex will always look down on you for it,

711
00:50:11.869 --> 00:50:18.849
forever. Yeah. He but but you're welcome you're welcome to do it. He he he accepts Apple Pay. He accepts all the fiat methods.

712
00:50:20.075 --> 00:50:23.214
But I I don't think I can look him in the eyes if I didn't pay with Bitcoin.

713
00:50:23.755 --> 00:50:24.255
The

714
00:50:25.674 --> 00:50:28.895
let's move on. So you're wearing this hat, which you designed,

715
00:50:29.275 --> 00:50:30.015
I believe.

716
00:50:30.555 --> 00:50:36.310
That's a it's a bull Bitcoin hat. You've been with bit bull Bitcoin for a while. They're one of your biggest supporters.

717
00:50:38.370 --> 00:50:43.830
What what is your role at bull Bitcoin? Do you actually do any day to day there or you just more of like

718
00:50:44.530 --> 00:50:45.190
a culture,

719
00:50:47.484 --> 00:50:47.984
brand

720
00:50:48.285 --> 00:50:48.785
piece?

721
00:50:50.765 --> 00:50:52.545
Well, I'm glad you didn't say mascot.

722
00:50:53.885 --> 00:50:54.945
Are you a mascot?

723
00:50:55.325 --> 00:50:57.905
No. Best mascot in this in the in the industry.

724
00:50:59.005 --> 00:50:59.505
Yeah.

725
00:51:00.045 --> 00:51:06.789
Well, at Bull, like, bull before bull became the full bull, it was a fully functioning operating company,

726
00:51:08.770 --> 00:51:10.150
and bull bitcoin

727
00:51:10.450 --> 00:51:10.950
was

728
00:51:11.569 --> 00:51:12.309
a rebrand

729
00:51:12.609 --> 00:51:15.030
when Dave Bradley and I

730
00:51:15.410 --> 00:51:16.230
joined up

731
00:51:17.045 --> 00:51:18.245
with Francis. So

732
00:51:19.525 --> 00:51:22.825
and, yeah, created the bull Bitcoin brand,

733
00:51:23.525 --> 00:51:24.505
all the visuals,

734
00:51:25.525 --> 00:51:26.665
and all the merch

735
00:51:26.965 --> 00:51:27.465
and

736
00:51:28.165 --> 00:51:33.780
basically ensure that, like, wherever bull Bitcoin shows up, whether it's our own,

737
00:51:35.920 --> 00:51:39.700
like, our own staff or whether it's people who are clients or,

738
00:51:41.359 --> 00:51:41.859
supporters

739
00:51:42.640 --> 00:51:43.460
that everyone

740
00:51:43.839 --> 00:51:46.020
has cool stuff, fly stuff,

741
00:51:46.895 --> 00:51:48.195
you know, that we're making

742
00:51:49.295 --> 00:51:49.795
producing

743
00:51:50.175 --> 00:51:54.195
products that are physical for our users that,

744
00:51:54.734 --> 00:51:55.635
are are

745
00:51:56.655 --> 00:51:57.555
for awesome

746
00:51:58.015 --> 00:52:00.275
and also have function to them.

747
00:52:01.930 --> 00:52:07.070
So that's basically any when it when things come down to anything to do with the brand,

748
00:52:08.010 --> 00:52:12.350
that's basically my day to day stuff. Or, like, we did a bunch of events.

749
00:52:14.015 --> 00:52:16.515
So do it doing the setup at the events

750
00:52:16.815 --> 00:52:19.955
and, you know, making sure just the presence is felt,

751
00:52:21.535 --> 00:52:22.495
all, like, the the

752
00:52:24.495 --> 00:52:28.860
anything physical, basically, to do with Bull Bitcoin that hits the brand.

753
00:52:29.340 --> 00:52:30.400
Are you on LinkedIn?

754
00:52:32.700 --> 00:52:33.680
Am I on LinkedIn?

755
00:52:34.140 --> 00:52:35.840
Yeah. Do you have a LinkedIn account?

756
00:52:36.220 --> 00:52:37.920
I I think I used to.

757
00:52:38.220 --> 00:52:39.600
Okay. Well, I hope you don't.

758
00:52:40.140 --> 00:52:41.475
Everyone should delete their LinkedIn.

759
00:52:42.115 --> 00:52:45.075
But if you did have a LinkedIn, like, your title, like

760
00:52:45.555 --> 00:52:48.295
you're like you're like the most badass head of comms

761
00:52:48.835 --> 00:52:52.775
at Bull Bitcoin or something. You're like Yeah. I I v VP of community.

762
00:52:53.820 --> 00:53:05.360
The title is, like, creative director, artistic director, like, you know, I'm not I'm not using Figma to design stuff, but I'm Yeah. Complaining about the stuff that was designed in Figma.

763
00:53:05.900 --> 00:53:09.120
Boom. So full full blown, like, artistic direction

764
00:53:10.115 --> 00:53:10.615
and,

765
00:53:10.994 --> 00:53:14.135
you know, and really, I'm in the best possible position because

766
00:53:14.595 --> 00:53:15.255
the only

767
00:53:15.555 --> 00:53:21.415
in in fiat, you want brand to be more powerful than product, but in Bitcoin

768
00:53:22.329 --> 00:53:29.630
and, you know, hard money standards, you want the the whole reason a brand exists is because the underlying product is fucking awesome.

769
00:53:30.170 --> 00:53:30.670
So

770
00:53:31.609 --> 00:53:37.790
it if if the engineers at Bull were all shit and everything Francis was doing, it was shit. Like,

771
00:53:38.945 --> 00:53:51.765
it doesn't matter how, you know, they call it, putting lipstick on a pig. Right? It doesn't matter how much you fucking dress it up, how fucking cool you make it. If the product is fucked and annoying to fucking use and everything about it sucks,

772
00:53:52.089 --> 00:53:52.829
Doesn't matter

773
00:53:53.210 --> 00:53:53.950
how how many, you

774
00:53:54.329 --> 00:53:54.829
know,

775
00:53:55.290 --> 00:53:56.910
endorsements or collaborations

776
00:53:57.290 --> 00:54:04.215
or how much cool stuff you make, like, it just sucks. So I'm really, really lucky in that way that, like, I see myself as a

777
00:54:04.775 --> 00:54:07.995
extremely great designer and extremely great creator.

778
00:54:08.535 --> 00:54:09.015
And,

779
00:54:09.415 --> 00:54:14.795
the team of engineers that Francis leads at Bull are the best in in Bitcoin

780
00:54:15.655 --> 00:54:23.410
as just a user. Like, I can't get even get into the technical stuff of it because I'm a trailer park layman, but

781
00:54:24.030 --> 00:54:25.970
just as a user every day,

782
00:54:26.589 --> 00:54:30.609
running on Bitcoin, it's just like the best fucking product I've ever used.

783
00:54:31.230 --> 00:54:33.975
You know, and it's got some stuff that that is like

784
00:54:34.455 --> 00:54:38.075
that some people complain about because it's not like a Coinbase experience.

785
00:54:40.135 --> 00:54:49.820
But that's what I think it is so awesome about it and, you know, our customer support is the best in the fucking world and, you know, especially if you're, yeah, you know, moving.

786
00:54:50.360 --> 00:54:54.140
If you're using it in your everyday life and you need fucking help doing it,

787
00:54:55.000 --> 00:55:04.140
it's just it enable it really does enable Bitcoin standard. And so my work to make bull Bitcoin as fucking awesome as it is and also

788
00:55:04.685 --> 00:55:09.265
to believe myself it's awesome is only made possible by how good the stack is.

789
00:55:09.725 --> 00:55:11.984
Yeah. I mean, it's one of the best Bitcoin businesses,

790
00:55:12.525 --> 00:55:18.305
in the world. And, I mean, I would go even further and say it's probably one of the best parts of Canada, period,

791
00:55:19.410 --> 00:55:24.630
is the existence of like, I've seen Americans, like, I just wish I lived in Canada so I could use Bull Bitcoin.

792
00:55:25.170 --> 00:55:27.750
And it's very pure from a Bitcoin point of view,

793
00:55:28.130 --> 00:55:39.964
in terms of a lot of the trade offs that are made are because Bull Bitcoin does not wanna take custody of your funds, because Bull Bitcoin wants to to reduce KYC exposure and personal information that they have on users.

794
00:55:40.585 --> 00:55:47.940
And they they take a lot of pains to do this. But but once you start using it, and as an American, I've never actually used it, but I've seen the flow,

795
00:55:48.880 --> 00:55:50.660
from my friends up north.

796
00:55:51.040 --> 00:56:00.615
Once you start using it, it's actually even more convenient of an experience because you're literally you're getting Bitcoin, and it's, like, shipping right to your to your own wallet that you're that you're holding yourself.

797
00:56:01.575 --> 00:56:05.994
I guess recently, you guys have also shipped in France and Costa Rica.

798
00:56:06.855 --> 00:56:13.915
Francis kinda just, like, scratches his own itch, and I guess he is French Canadian, so France made sense. And he's been living in Costa Rica, so,

799
00:56:14.510 --> 00:56:19.010
it meant a lot to them. Well, also France is primed. France is ready for this.

800
00:56:19.310 --> 00:56:25.250
Right? Like, the the the France is a powder keg right now, and they don't have any,

801
00:56:26.270 --> 00:56:29.070
they don't have any of the language. Like, there's no,

802
00:56:29.925 --> 00:56:31.545
there's no Odell podcast

803
00:56:32.165 --> 00:56:32.665
in

804
00:56:33.045 --> 00:56:42.425
based on Paris, the French version. There's nobody talking about fucking freedom and liberty over there in it to the extent that we do with kind of our American ideals.

805
00:56:43.420 --> 00:56:44.240
So it's

806
00:56:44.700 --> 00:56:54.160
a and, you know, it's a fucking amazing place. So it it's really ready. It it's it's time. So it just kind of lined lined up perfectly

807
00:56:54.620 --> 00:57:01.605
in just meeting and making the right connections and then kind of making the moves and wanting to expand into Europe for a while.

808
00:57:02.065 --> 00:57:08.165
And then, kind of this is this is the way it worked out, and it's perfect because, you know, we're all,

809
00:57:08.990 --> 00:57:10.670
almost all of us at BOL are,

810
00:57:11.150 --> 00:57:14.210
have some French roots of of some sort or another.

811
00:57:15.069 --> 00:57:19.170
Love it. And I what I was gonna say was and then your branding is

812
00:57:19.710 --> 00:57:27.714
I mean, you do such a good job. It's one of the strongest brands in the in the space. It just gets you going. It gets you very excited about the movement,

813
00:57:28.095 --> 00:57:32.994
and and it just it complements the brand really well. So guys, that's bullbitcoin.com.

814
00:57:34.174 --> 00:57:37.395
I believe those are the only 3 countries you support right now.

815
00:57:38.150 --> 00:57:40.730
Yeah. Costa Rica, France, and Canada.

816
00:57:41.110 --> 00:57:48.650
Yeah. And it particularly the Costa Rica integration is really fucking cool because they have, like, this digital payment method called sim pay,

817
00:57:49.835 --> 00:57:54.894
that most Costa Ricans already have that's tied to a phone number, and it just seamlessly integrates with that.

818
00:57:55.835 --> 00:57:56.575
And there's

819
00:57:56.954 --> 00:57:57.454
there's,

820
00:57:58.075 --> 00:58:00.894
there's a circular economy down there called Bitcoin Jungle,

821
00:58:01.595 --> 00:58:11.530
that Francis has been a key part of, where they accept Bitcoin. You can you can just live your life on a Bitcoin standard, and and bull Bitcoin has been a key bridging aspect there,

822
00:58:12.070 --> 00:58:12.970
bridging between,

823
00:58:13.750 --> 00:58:18.010
the fiat world and the Bitcoin world. So, I mean, shout out to you guys. That's been fucking awesome.

824
00:58:18.855 --> 00:58:21.575
The last the last major topic on my list,

825
00:58:23.095 --> 00:58:28.395
that we've been talking about a lot lately is is so you're an artist. Right? And as an artist,

826
00:58:28.935 --> 00:58:30.475
one of the the key

827
00:58:31.950 --> 00:58:33.170
the the key dependencies

828
00:58:33.630 --> 00:58:37.250
you have is is communicating with your audience and and

829
00:58:37.790 --> 00:58:39.010
and being able to

830
00:58:39.870 --> 00:58:43.570
distribute your art and on a global scale and and actually

831
00:58:44.685 --> 00:58:47.585
connect with the people that are out there buying it.

832
00:58:48.525 --> 00:58:50.545
And you've had a lot of difficulty,

833
00:58:51.805 --> 00:58:54.865
with x and Twitter before it. Yeah.

834
00:58:56.220 --> 00:59:00.400
And I'm I'm trying to get you I'm trying to get you to use Nostra more.

835
00:59:01.500 --> 00:59:03.900
I really I I think there's something I

836
00:59:04.859 --> 00:59:08.160
if we're successful on Nostra, like, it could be the single biggest,

837
00:59:10.915 --> 00:59:16.295
like, the combination of Nostra with Bitcoin could be the single biggest boost for independent artists like yourself.

838
00:59:16.915 --> 00:59:21.015
I I think Yeah. I mean, it already is just with fucking zaps, man. Like,

839
00:59:21.715 --> 00:59:25.640
just just with the zaps, it's already better than Twitter in a lot of ways.

840
00:59:26.020 --> 00:59:28.200
I also find, like, a lot of people

841
00:59:28.500 --> 00:59:32.280
complain about kind of interacting with it and, like, it's got you know, it's new.

842
00:59:32.660 --> 00:59:38.920
But, I act I like like that feature about it, because I found that since I've

843
00:59:39.275 --> 00:59:44.735
been trying to switch over to Noster and, like, be consciously thinking about it, k, and engage with Noster,

844
00:59:45.435 --> 00:59:47.455
it's actually way more efficient because

845
00:59:47.755 --> 00:59:52.815
I'm only able to engage with it for maybe 5 minutes before it kinda starts having problems.

846
00:59:53.460 --> 00:59:55.880
And then and then I actually go and do something productive,

847
00:59:57.619 --> 01:00:01.640
which I think is great for everybody, honestly. I think it's a feature, not a bug.

848
01:00:02.180 --> 01:00:02.660
And,

849
01:00:03.140 --> 01:00:06.840
you know, I don't like, what really sucks right now is that

850
01:00:07.905 --> 01:00:08.885
I'm, like,

851
01:00:09.425 --> 01:00:16.645
the most important thing that Madex needs is just eyes and new people discovering it. And

852
01:00:17.105 --> 01:00:23.760
the most frustrating thing is I put all this energy and all this time into building this

853
01:00:24.220 --> 01:00:24.720
platform

854
01:00:25.100 --> 01:00:25.920
on Twitter,

855
01:00:26.859 --> 01:00:27.359
where

856
01:00:27.740 --> 01:00:28.240
my

857
01:00:30.060 --> 01:00:32.240
my success is entirely

858
01:00:32.700 --> 01:00:34.960
at the mercy of their bullshit.

859
01:00:35.565 --> 01:00:37.185
So their their algorithms

860
01:00:37.805 --> 01:00:39.025
entire and and

861
01:00:40.685 --> 01:00:49.505
it's better since the whole Elon takeover, but it's still just horrible, man. Like, you know, you I'm just not getting served anywhere to anybody

862
01:00:49.869 --> 01:00:57.970
who who should be seeing me. And then what happens is I get reserved over and over and over again to people who already know me and care about me. And then,

863
01:00:58.270 --> 01:01:01.250
you know, I don't want to there's gotta be a way to

864
01:01:01.630 --> 01:01:03.810
push content without annoying

865
01:01:04.349 --> 01:01:08.694
the the users that you, you know, the people who are already with you,

866
01:01:08.994 --> 01:01:18.775
but that can reach other people because that's the only way I'm gonna succeed is I gotta have, you know, 10,000 people that will support whatever made x releases.

867
01:01:20.240 --> 01:01:24.980
And I don't know where the line is to like, I don't I don't know how to do that. Like,

868
01:01:25.760 --> 01:01:34.740
don't piss off the current following and reach forward into new following. And, you know, it's kind of insane, man. Like, I put all that fucking effort into the manifesto

869
01:01:35.495 --> 01:01:41.915
video. It's basically, like, it it's manifesto for a reason. It's, like, my life's fucking work at this point.

870
01:01:42.775 --> 01:01:43.275
And

871
01:01:44.215 --> 01:01:44.875
I think

872
01:01:45.175 --> 01:01:56.900
it it got in the in the 1st week. I think it got, like, a 1,000 actual views. It got a ton of impressions, but, like, a 1,000 views. Yeah. Those numbers are pretty big. I make this fucking video

873
01:01:57.200 --> 01:02:01.460
telling David Bailey to fuck off for trying to get me to do,

874
01:02:01.760 --> 01:02:03.059
an ordinal project.

875
01:02:03.875 --> 01:02:05.815
And that got 200,000

876
01:02:06.355 --> 01:02:08.214
views in 3 days.

877
01:02:08.675 --> 01:02:13.335
So like some stupid shit post I made with a fucking broken leg and

878
01:02:15.234 --> 01:02:34.305
it's just fucked, man. The incentives are totally fucked. And then something I actually care about that I want people to see that I put all the time and effort into, just like Twitter does not serve it, does not care. And then what happens is the ramp in Twitter is that, like, that when I released the manifesto spooling like crazy, it got like 20,000 impressions.

879
01:02:34.845 --> 01:02:44.065
And then it got up to 50,000 impressions in like the next like batch of time. And then it just stops. Like Twitter just like fucking cuts it off.

880
01:02:44.619 --> 01:02:51.119
Yep. And then just stop. I I don't know why. Stop serving your people or whatever. It's a blind fox. It's a blind fox. I have no idea.

881
01:02:51.900 --> 01:03:01.145
It's fucked up because my fucking life actually depends on people seeing that fucking video. Like, every part of Madex depends on that exposure.

882
01:03:01.445 --> 01:03:04.505
And Twitter for some fucking and it's not even an addressable

883
01:03:05.365 --> 01:03:11.065
thing. It's just for whatever fucking reason that nobody on earth, probably even the people that work there, can explain,

884
01:03:11.610 --> 01:03:16.830
it just stops and they just fucking cut me off. Like, oh, 50,000 impressions that's enough for you. Like,

885
01:03:17.210 --> 01:03:29.535
fuck off now. So then and then I'm stuck. And then like Instagram's the same way I was talking to some guys that do like social media work and they're saying it's all fucked right now. Everything sucks and especially with, like, all the spam from the elections and whatnot.

886
01:03:30.315 --> 01:03:37.615
So I don't know what the solution is, but I'm gonna go in on Nasser. I mean, already, like, I thought nobody was following me at all, and then finally,

887
01:03:38.960 --> 01:03:46.640
I, like, was patient enough to let the follower account load. And I think there was, like, 3,000 people or something. I was like, oh, holy shit. Like

888
01:03:47.759 --> 01:03:49.539
Yeah. So I mean, first of all,

889
01:03:50.400 --> 01:03:55.445
follower counts in general are bullshit across all of centralized social media. But on Nostr,

890
01:03:56.225 --> 01:03:57.765
it is even more apparent

891
01:03:58.225 --> 01:03:59.285
because there's no

892
01:03:59.665 --> 01:04:00.165
objective

893
01:04:00.705 --> 01:04:16.080
follower number. Right? I mean, you could spin up as many n pubs as you want and, like, when you press that's why when you press in different Nostra clients, when you press, like, how many followers does an account have Oh, it's different. Yeah. It loads different every time because it's literally just on demand, like, pulling from different relays or whatever.

894
01:04:16.940 --> 01:04:17.440
Primal

895
01:04:18.060 --> 01:04:27.425
has a caching server, so they try and give you the top level number because they have insight into the whole into the whole network, and then and then they cache it themselves.

896
01:04:27.885 --> 01:04:31.345
So that's why on primal, you'll see the highest follower account number.

897
01:04:31.965 --> 01:04:35.825
But the point is is that it's transparent and no one can block you.

898
01:04:36.445 --> 01:04:37.265
No one can,

899
01:04:37.630 --> 01:04:39.650
you know, no one can feed you into

900
01:04:40.030 --> 01:04:40.530
a

901
01:04:40.910 --> 01:04:41.410
a

902
01:04:41.790 --> 01:04:46.530
a black box algorithm. No one can kneecap you out of nowhere and just take away your livelihood.

903
01:04:47.470 --> 01:04:52.609
And I think long term, Nostra will fix this. It is very clearly early days.

904
01:04:53.685 --> 01:05:04.105
But similar to Bitcoin, it can't just be seen as this tech project. It's a movement of people. And, like, we have to will this fucking thing into existence. Like, we willed Bitcoin into existence.

905
01:05:05.079 --> 01:05:06.619
We were successful. Now

906
01:05:06.920 --> 01:05:19.740
I don't think Bitcoin I I think Bitcoin still needs more willing and motivation. Like, we need to make sure that Bitcoin is usable as freedom money and more people have access to it as freedom money. But we just straight up fucking willed Bitcoin into existence.

907
01:05:20.145 --> 01:05:31.125
And now we can will Nostra into existence, and it will get better over time. And ultimately, long term, it will fix exactly this issue. And you won't when you make a post, you won't have to worry, do I piss off the wrong person?

908
01:05:31.745 --> 01:05:37.740
Do I if I link to this versus linking to this, does it fuck me over in the algorithm or whatever?

909
01:05:38.280 --> 01:05:38.780
And

910
01:05:39.960 --> 01:05:53.345
and I I think it frees people up similar to the way Bitcoin frees you up to focus on what's important in life because you don't have to be a financial wizard or hire someone to manage your fucking money. You can just stay humble and stack stats.

911
01:05:53.725 --> 01:05:56.545
Nostra will do the same for communications in that

912
01:05:56.925 --> 01:05:58.225
you don't have to spend

913
01:05:59.245 --> 01:06:01.665
precious mental capacity and time

914
01:06:02.100 --> 01:06:32.065
on, like, trying to develop a strategy that works with whatever Zuckerberg decides he wants to to do with Instagram at any given fucking time. And you can just fucking broadcast to the world. And if you have people that wanna consume that and want to interact with you, then they can without permission. That is insanely powerful. And but we have like, it it's gonna it requires people to fucking do this thing. And It's critically important, man. I mean, like, my my entire life at one point, like, the Elon shit helped a little bit with it, but

915
01:06:33.540 --> 01:06:48.375
I could have been axed at any moment. And then, you know, right now, the equation for Madex is just, like, reach new new person who's interested in what I'm doing and okay. You know, some supreme power decides that I shouldn't be able to reach people.

916
01:06:48.755 --> 01:06:54.135
Like, the if I got banned even beforehand, like, I don't know what the option would have

917
01:06:54.595 --> 01:06:56.055
have even been. Like,

918
01:06:57.155 --> 01:07:01.635
get other people to tweet about the project. Right? Like, and then they get banned. So

919
01:07:02.319 --> 01:07:14.660
no, but I'm loving it so far. What's almost even worse than the ban is the shadow ban where you're just you're reaching and don't even know. Yeah. And and so you're just you're just this product. You're just this product in this fucking wheel.

920
01:07:15.920 --> 01:07:16.420
While

921
01:07:16.994 --> 01:07:21.414
while on Nostr, like, you're a user. You're not a product. Yeah. You can actually

922
01:07:21.795 --> 01:07:30.214
and you have control over your destiny. So what I would say to you is you want this ability to, like, separate between the ride or dies and the new audience.

923
01:07:30.560 --> 01:07:31.060
Is,

924
01:07:31.360 --> 01:07:33.540
for now, you know, I'm obviously

925
01:07:34.880 --> 01:07:35.380
fucking

926
01:07:36.160 --> 01:07:39.780
insane person and I just, you know, I spent a decade building

927
01:07:40.640 --> 01:07:57.195
building my Twitter account and and putting all this effort and time into it, and then I just walked away and deleted it. I don't expect most people to do that. I just I knew eventually I was gonna say something or piss off the wrong person that I was gonna get kneecapped there, and I'd rather walk away on my own terms,

928
01:07:58.295 --> 01:08:14.970
than wait just wait for that to happen. Like, fuck them. Like, they they can't have it. Like, I took all my tweets and I rebroadcast them on Noster. The only place you can read them is on Noster, and and Yeah. And fuck that shit. I'm gonna do it on my own. But with that all said, like, you can use Twitter and Instagram

929
01:08:15.349 --> 01:08:16.410
for, like, your

930
01:08:17.055 --> 01:08:17.555
outreach.

931
01:08:17.935 --> 01:08:30.755
The ride or dies are already on Noster. And I've I don't know who said it. I'm not good with quotes. But it's, like, a 1000 a 1000 good fans or 2,000 good fans, and true fans, like, real people Yeah. Yeah. Is all you really need,

932
01:08:31.390 --> 01:08:42.610
to be successful in the short term, and and the medium term. They'll carry you through. They're the they're the ride or dies. They're the they're on Noster. So you give you you you focus on the ride or dies on Noster, and eventually,

933
01:08:43.310 --> 01:08:50.414
if we're correct and Noster we actually build this fucking thing out, it will solve the mainstream problem for you too. And the beauty of Nostr

934
01:08:50.875 --> 01:08:59.695
is that because the user gets to choose what kind of content they consume and have algorithmic choice, they can use algorithms, they cannot use algorithms, they can see what's going on.

935
01:09:00.875 --> 01:09:01.934
At some point,

936
01:09:02.340 --> 01:09:06.120
you know, your nostril will be for both the rider dies and the mainstream.

937
01:09:06.740 --> 01:09:12.120
And and the the actual end user can actually dictate how they want that experience to be.

938
01:09:12.820 --> 01:09:18.040
And you can just ship and focus on what you love and focus on art and and focus on

939
01:09:19.005 --> 01:09:30.360
on on beautiful things rather than all this fucking fiat bullshit. Like, that's the world I wanna live in love too. That's the world I want my kids to live in. That's the world I want their kids to live in. So let's fucking make it happen, you know?

940
01:09:31.080 --> 01:09:38.300
Yeah. No. I'm down, man. And, you know, so far I'm happy with it. And yeah. I think, like, it's hard to kind of explain

941
01:09:38.600 --> 01:09:40.619
the equation, but it

942
01:09:41.080 --> 01:09:44.040
in a way that carries the weight, but it's really, like, you know

943
01:09:45.725 --> 01:09:56.925
I I actually don't know how stuff gets shared really. I know people retweet it with with Noster, but I don't think there I don't think there's anything that pushes stuff out other than that. Right? It's, like, fully

944
01:09:57.910 --> 01:09:59.530
Well, yeah. So right now engagement

945
01:09:59.830 --> 01:10:04.890
that pushes stuff to new to new people. Like, when I post on Noster, how am I how do I know I'm gonna

946
01:10:05.270 --> 01:10:11.690
new people are gonna see this? I gotta rely on, like, retweets? Or Right right now, there's only one real main algorithm,

947
01:10:12.310 --> 01:10:13.035
and that's,

948
01:10:13.435 --> 01:10:14.975
the primal trending list,

949
01:10:15.595 --> 01:10:17.375
which is a very basic algorithm.

950
01:10:18.875 --> 01:10:28.335
Everyone else, if you're not using primal or if you're not using the primal trending list, which is, you know, obviously opt in, you don't have to use it, is literally just like organic chronological

951
01:10:29.409 --> 01:10:29.570
feed.

952
01:10:30.690 --> 01:10:51.125
But what's gonna happen, and Primal's shipping this soon, they're calling it a feed marketplace, is anyone can build an algorithm, an open algorithm, that you can see how it works. And the users can choose what what feeds they wanna use and how they wanna use it, and it will help it will help with discovery. But a key thing to keep in mind here, and this was one of the reasons I I I really love Twitter,

953
01:10:51.585 --> 01:10:55.045
was Twitter was always very open in terms of sharing.

954
01:10:55.490 --> 01:10:57.110
Right? So I always said, like,

955
01:10:57.490 --> 01:11:00.950
Twitter users were undercounted because if you were reading,

956
01:11:01.410 --> 01:11:02.630
you know, I mean, you you

957
01:11:03.010 --> 01:11:09.110
fuck the New York Times. But if you're reading a New York Times article and there's a tweet quoted in the New York Times article, you're an indirect

958
01:11:09.815 --> 01:11:24.715
Twitter user. Right? And I think that's what happens with nostril because you're seeing these walled gardens pop up. You I can't view your Instagram posts if I'm not an Instagram user. I can't view your tweets, your x posts, if I'm not an x user. But anyone who's not using nostril can use,

959
01:11:25.550 --> 01:11:31.650
can can view your post anywhere. So they can be shared in signal or Telegram or matrix, wherever,

960
01:11:32.110 --> 01:11:32.610
imessage,

961
01:11:33.070 --> 01:11:39.970
and people might be seeing it and you you they're just like lurkers. Right? Like, most people are just viewers. They don't actually interact.

962
01:11:40.495 --> 01:11:45.795
So there's no way for you to know exactly how many people are viewing, but the key thing to keep in mind here

963
01:11:46.255 --> 01:11:52.595
is nobody knows across like, when when when Elon says there's a half a 1000000000 Twitter users, x users,

964
01:11:53.030 --> 01:12:03.050
we're just taking him out his fucking word. Like, there's no way to know. When you say the impressions on the Madex matters Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. There's no way to verify that. We can't prove that. And

965
01:12:03.510 --> 01:12:06.970
so so with Nasr, it's gonna be the same way, but I think it'll be,

966
01:12:07.465 --> 01:12:13.725
like, the true global square. The true place where you can post and anyone can view it anywhere in the world from anything,

967
01:12:15.145 --> 01:12:15.645
and

968
01:12:16.185 --> 01:12:23.440
and that will just compound on itself. Like, all the old stuff that you post will also get resurfaced and will get re shown and reshared.

969
01:12:25.020 --> 01:12:26.080
So I would just

970
01:12:26.460 --> 01:12:28.880
I would just keep shipping. We're, like, working we're

971
01:12:30.380 --> 01:12:47.495
we're working on Nostril, like, around the clock to, like, make this thing. Yeah. Not only censorship resistant, not only more freedom focused, not only have Bitcoin integrated, but is gonna be the most seamless experience, the the quickest, the fastest, the the most usable experience rather than the friction that we have right now.

972
01:12:48.510 --> 01:12:50.429
I I think it would be great to have,

973
01:12:51.150 --> 01:12:52.530
almost 2 feeds

974
01:12:53.150 --> 01:12:53.650
where

975
01:12:55.790 --> 01:13:01.489
because I that equation of, like, tweet equals hopefully new eyeballs equals hopefully new traffic.

976
01:13:01.835 --> 01:13:04.895
It'd be great to have 2 sections that, like, one is,

977
01:13:05.355 --> 01:13:07.215
you know, all all like your

978
01:13:07.755 --> 01:13:17.630
almost like a curated section. Like, these are all the best the best Nasser posts I've made. Yeah. And you can mark them to go to that side. And then this is just like everything.

979
01:13:18.170 --> 01:13:29.390
Yeah. But I'm not gonna Maybe a lot of If you go to Maybe a lot of the mass posting stuff maybe a lot of the mass posting stuff is solved by these things that, you know, Noster will provide.

980
01:13:29.915 --> 01:13:40.655
Because right now, the mass posting thing is just like it's a it's really an Instagram solution because it's like people are just fucking scrolling. The literally, the only way to get ahead is just like pure,

981
01:13:41.195 --> 01:13:55.210
like, overload. You just gotta be, like, avalanching content into the platform. Bad incentive. It's a fucked up incentive because it's and then it just results in like a society that's fucking addicted to their phones and addicted to the social media. And people, like, wake up in the morning,

982
01:13:55.625 --> 01:14:08.525
they, like, open x, and they're, like, what am I supposed to be mad about today? Like, what is the thing? Like, they literally roll out of bed, and they're, like, what am I supposed to care about today? Yeah. And it's, like, their Ikea production booklet when they wake up.

983
01:14:08.870 --> 01:14:09.370
Yeah.

984
01:14:10.750 --> 01:14:11.250
Their

985
01:14:11.690 --> 01:14:12.190
day.

986
01:14:13.190 --> 01:14:15.450
Any anyway, sir, this has been,

987
01:14:17.190 --> 01:14:27.494
this is Well, how much time do we have left? Because I have some important announcements. Yeah. We have I you have 10 more minutes. So I because I I have to Well, that give back to my family. What do you have for us?

988
01:14:28.355 --> 01:14:29.094
That's lots.

989
01:14:30.275 --> 01:14:33.335
Okay. Main thing is, I'm going through this,

990
01:14:34.275 --> 01:14:42.780
like, Mayday. Right? So I am Maydayx. I I go by that, and then that's how I've been pushing this obviously for a long time because it's,

991
01:14:44.040 --> 01:14:51.180
me. But, like, the ultimate goal of the project is to be sort of a design house similar to a fashion company,

992
01:14:52.055 --> 01:14:52.955
and to

993
01:14:53.655 --> 01:14:56.635
be hiring, employing artists and other talented

994
01:14:57.015 --> 01:15:03.595
manufacturers and trades people and aggregating it all to just do whatever it takes to make the best possible

995
01:15:04.530 --> 01:15:05.429
fucking artwork.

996
01:15:05.969 --> 01:15:13.429
And then in the same way that, like Christian Dior is the head of, you know, a fashion company, there there's like design heads.

997
01:15:13.730 --> 01:15:16.550
Right now, I am the in charge of all of the design.

998
01:15:17.815 --> 01:15:19.995
And so going into this expansion,

999
01:15:20.935 --> 01:15:22.955
I'm looking to hire somebody

1000
01:15:23.335 --> 01:15:24.875
that is a project manager.

1001
01:15:26.055 --> 01:15:30.315
I saw somebody ask in one of the comments somewhere was like, why don't you have a manager?

1002
01:15:30.700 --> 01:15:31.440
Well, actually,

1003
01:15:31.740 --> 01:15:34.240
I think the time's come that I actually need one.

1004
01:15:35.500 --> 01:15:43.120
So I'm just putting that out there. I don't know if anyone is insanely capable at getting stuff done. It's basically the job offering.

1005
01:15:43.955 --> 01:15:49.175
I'm looking for someone to work full time with Madex. If you're not in Alberta, possibly move to Alberta

1006
01:15:49.635 --> 01:15:50.775
for this position.

1007
01:15:52.275 --> 01:15:55.415
And it's essentially the next step because I

1008
01:15:56.489 --> 01:16:04.510
made x I'm pretty well one man band man with like some help here and there and, you know I bring people in when I need to but

1009
01:16:05.690 --> 01:16:09.710
it's a lot and my specific talent is design

1010
01:16:10.090 --> 01:16:15.365
and marketing and that's what I need to be focused on and I need someone to come in and help me with logistics.

1011
01:16:16.545 --> 01:16:18.405
So I'm, I'm searching for that.

1012
01:16:19.345 --> 01:16:22.885
And then I also just kind of back when you're telling me about like,

1013
01:16:24.330 --> 01:16:27.210
not doing the NFT stuff and not doing,

1014
01:16:27.610 --> 01:16:33.230
you know, the ordinal things and all of that. I mean, really the only reason that that's possible

1015
01:16:33.610 --> 01:16:34.110
is

1016
01:16:34.970 --> 01:16:37.070
well, A, my ethical foundation,

1017
01:16:37.610 --> 01:16:38.110
but

1018
01:16:38.435 --> 01:16:39.575
really bitcoin

1019
01:16:40.435 --> 01:16:41.655
and bull bitcoin

1020
01:16:42.195 --> 01:16:43.255
and Dave Bradley

1021
01:16:43.875 --> 01:16:48.055
and all the other, like, major people that have kind of helped me get to this point.

1022
01:16:49.395 --> 01:16:49.895
And

1023
01:16:50.599 --> 01:16:51.900
majority stake Bitcoin,

1024
01:16:52.280 --> 01:16:57.980
putting me in a position that I can actually tell like turn down an offer like that,

1025
01:16:58.679 --> 01:17:01.340
and sleep at night and feel happy about it.

1026
01:17:02.614 --> 01:17:06.554
Like the recently there's been some drama with the whole mempool thing.

1027
01:17:07.015 --> 01:17:11.995
And, you know, I don't, I don't know the ins and outs of it, that at all, but from the surface level,

1028
01:17:12.455 --> 01:17:29.410
like where, where we're all, all us Bitcoiners are really busy huddling and we're not putting up our money to this kind of stuff. And crypto has infinite money and they're gonna put it wherever the they want. And so like my comment on the mempool thing was, hey, if if y'all didn't want this to get fucking,

1029
01:17:31.230 --> 01:17:35.645
co opted, obfuscated, like where where was the Bitcoin money then?

1030
01:17:36.025 --> 01:17:38.525
Like where where was where was the money from Bitcoiners

1031
01:17:39.225 --> 01:17:44.765
that gave them put them in a position to say, go fuck yourself, crypto. We're not gonna get involved in it.

1032
01:17:46.660 --> 01:17:47.480
I don't know.

1033
01:17:48.260 --> 01:17:55.000
And I again, I'm not clear on that whole situation, but it's just kinda something I think about. And, as a result of that, like,

1034
01:17:55.860 --> 01:17:59.080
it's really important to me that Madex inspires

1035
01:17:59.780 --> 01:18:01.960
another generation of artists slash

1036
01:18:02.415 --> 01:18:12.355
that Madex can reach artists, creators that are outside of Bitcoin and kind of show them that their work and their talent will be recognized and well respected

1037
01:18:13.215 --> 01:18:19.450
in the Bitcoin world. And also, I just as for myself, I wanna be able to sell fucking

1038
01:18:20.230 --> 01:18:22.730
I wanna be able to buy, I mean, cool stuff,

1039
01:18:23.110 --> 01:18:31.290
from other people, other creators, other artists. I have an art collection of myself coming together, and, also, I'm always looking for stuff to get made that's fucking awesome.

1040
01:18:31.855 --> 01:18:38.034
And so I really hope the success of Madex can just be this kind of beacon that pulls more operatives,

1041
01:18:38.335 --> 01:18:40.994
more creators, more builders into the space,

1042
01:18:41.454 --> 01:18:44.835
and have them, like, making really amazing stuff because,

1043
01:18:45.280 --> 01:18:49.780
you know, I'm I'm doing the best I can. I'm trying to find tricks and ways to get better and improve

1044
01:18:50.160 --> 01:18:50.660
and

1045
01:18:51.520 --> 01:19:03.394
you know? But really, I'm shit compared to what any talent that's out there. It's just like people need to find a place that they can kinda serve it to. So I hope that Bitcoin is that place, and I hope Madex

1046
01:19:03.934 --> 01:19:07.315
brings people into into our world.

1047
01:19:08.014 --> 01:19:10.034
And, and for artists and creators,

1048
01:19:10.340 --> 01:19:20.360
I've been noticing a lot that, like, there's kind of a whole mustardy thing around money and making money. And I think that it's really important for anyone in the space to

1049
01:19:22.019 --> 01:19:22.519
really

1050
01:19:22.975 --> 01:19:30.995
be a 100% happy with making money and not be fucking weird about it because accepting capital for your labors and for your worth

1051
01:19:31.295 --> 01:19:35.075
is the highest fucking honor that there is. For you to produce

1052
01:19:35.599 --> 01:19:43.300
something of high enough value that someone else in the market is willing to part to do business with you and to exchange with you

1053
01:19:43.679 --> 01:19:52.275
is just absolutely fucking beautiful. And it's been getting a bad rap because of how Fiat fucks all of that stuff up. Like,

1054
01:19:52.655 --> 01:20:05.715
it how how hard money works is that those who are most valuable to society are the wealthiest and those who can help produce the much and, you know, in in in ensure the most forward movement are celebrated.

1055
01:20:06.100 --> 01:20:08.840
But in Fiat, it's those who are the most treacherous.

1056
01:20:09.540 --> 01:20:24.075
And that's that is kinda what gives us all this bad taste about making cash. So I don't know. Any artists or creatives out there, like, don't be fucking weird about making money. Like, if you're good at something, never do it for free and definitely put a fucking price on it. And,

1057
01:20:24.935 --> 01:20:36.929
you know, move moving forward into this Bitcoin world, we'll really come to see that that, like, there's nothing fucking awkward about being really fucking good at something and then going to the market and and and finding a price.

1058
01:20:37.870 --> 01:20:40.610
And I guess that's my rant. Also, anyone,

1059
01:20:41.070 --> 01:20:45.889
especially you, Odell, come to fucking Alberta for the Bitcoin rodeo in July,

1060
01:20:46.655 --> 01:20:51.715
and I will feed you the best fucking steak you've ever had in your life. Let's fucking go.

1061
01:20:52.575 --> 01:20:56.275
And Harry can verify this because he came to the rodeo in July.

1062
01:20:56.655 --> 01:20:58.355
Yeah. He said all my good things.

1063
01:20:59.480 --> 01:21:05.260
Fuck. Yeah. So we're doing it again, and it's another opportunity to see Madex stuff. And then, obviously, Bitcoin Park,

1064
01:21:05.560 --> 01:21:13.655
there's gonna be about 20 or so major pieces at Park that can be viewed and checked out, and I'll be shipping you guys some jewelry and stuff too.

1065
01:21:14.355 --> 01:21:17.175
And I guess that's my I don't know. Did I make the 10 minutes?

1066
01:21:18.114 --> 01:21:23.975
I mean, you you kind of pushed it to the limit because my battery is also almost dead.

1067
01:21:24.810 --> 01:21:31.790
I thought you were a professional. My screen's gonna well, this was actually a 2 podcast day. I did Preston right before this podcast.

1068
01:21:33.369 --> 01:21:36.969
I went on his show. I've now that I have a kid, I have to, like

1069
01:21:37.955 --> 01:21:40.055
you have to do the time jigsaw puzzle.

1070
01:21:41.075 --> 01:21:45.575
You start to realize you start to realize where the where the priorities lie and

1071
01:21:46.275 --> 01:21:49.735
try and focus. I mean, time is like our is is legit

1072
01:21:50.195 --> 01:21:52.535
our most scarce asset. Everything else,

1073
01:21:52.960 --> 01:21:55.060
you can't buy you can't buy more time.

1074
01:21:55.840 --> 01:21:56.820
It is, man.

1075
01:21:57.120 --> 01:22:05.780
Fiat has fucked up all of our priorities and how we do time management and I mean, that's another reason why like, I I can't have my kid grow up and,

1076
01:22:07.165 --> 01:22:10.465
like, see me addicted to fucking x. Like, that's just

1077
01:22:10.844 --> 01:22:12.625
Yeah. It's what the fuck is that, man?

1078
01:22:13.085 --> 01:22:16.844
It's a sad it's a that's a sad experience, and I,

1079
01:22:17.565 --> 01:22:23.870
we we we we need we need to make the world better. It it's time is of the essence. We are. We already are.

1080
01:22:24.650 --> 01:22:25.950
Damn right. We are.

1081
01:22:26.969 --> 01:22:27.469
Madex,

1082
01:22:28.250 --> 01:22:32.750
pleasure as always. I look forward to kicking it in person sometime soon.

1083
01:22:33.575 --> 01:22:35.815
Hopefully, before we get I'll be in Nashville in,

1084
01:22:36.215 --> 01:22:37.835
November. I'll see you there.

1085
01:22:38.615 --> 01:22:41.435
Oh, shit. Fuck yeah. Okay. So I'll see you soon.

1086
01:22:42.855 --> 01:22:43.175
And,

1087
01:22:43.815 --> 01:22:47.195
do you have any final thoughts, for our audience before we wrap?

1088
01:22:50.000 --> 01:22:51.860
Do I have any final thoughts?

1089
01:22:53.199 --> 01:23:02.805
No. I think I kinda got everything out of the way. I mean, I can really go ranting, but I feel like I don't even start getting fired up until you're an hour I'm an hour and a half in.

1090
01:23:03.125 --> 01:23:07.305
I gotta, like, I gotta do, like, an hour and a half preload, and then we'll start the podcast.

1091
01:23:10.245 --> 01:23:10.565
But,

1092
01:23:11.045 --> 01:23:16.905
no no thoughts. I think it was, I'm really grateful for everything you guys are doing at at at Park,

1093
01:23:17.600 --> 01:23:18.820
for the world.

1094
01:23:20.000 --> 01:23:25.700
Also very happy to be able to call it a flagship gallery for Madex very shortly here.

1095
01:23:27.120 --> 01:23:27.600
And,

1096
01:23:28.000 --> 01:23:29.380
yeah, I'm really grateful

1097
01:23:31.665 --> 01:23:32.324
to Rodolfo

1098
01:23:32.945 --> 01:23:34.565
and Matt from Start9,

1099
01:23:35.185 --> 01:23:40.804
and I'm grateful for Harry. I'm grateful for Francis. I'm grateful for Dave. Grateful for

1100
01:23:41.105 --> 01:23:47.530
all the people in the space that are working so fucking hard to, really make this fucking Bitcoin thing happen.

1101
01:23:48.150 --> 01:23:48.650
And,

1102
01:23:49.750 --> 01:23:53.210
it's been a long journey, and it we got a lot of work to do.

1103
01:23:54.230 --> 01:23:55.849
Fuck. Yeah. Let's get it done.

1104
01:23:56.869 --> 01:23:57.110
I,

1105
01:23:57.965 --> 01:24:03.585
I agree with you. I love the, like, the long 3 hour rips, so we'll make sure we have one of those in our future.

1106
01:24:04.684 --> 01:24:10.945
And just just keep pushing forward, man. You're fucking crushing it. I'll see you soon. Peace. K. Thanks. Bye.

1107
01:24:21.420 --> 01:24:23.280
Our world is chaotic,

1108
01:24:23.739 --> 01:24:28.000
but life found its way by channeling energy to bring order to chaos.

1109
01:24:28.455 --> 01:24:32.795
It is in our nature to seek signals amongst noise because it is through communication

1110
01:24:33.095 --> 01:24:38.635
and exchange that we evolve beyond the darkness of chaos into the dawn of civilization.

1111
01:24:40.135 --> 01:25:13.530
Our evolution thrives in exchange of all the info we try to convey. They flow through to the marketplace and form the signals to regulate how we coordinate where things need to be. Price speaks so we learn to compete. This drives us to efficiently shape the world without voice. Now let the market speak. And so we build, we sow, we trade, we grow to meet our wants and needs. We specialize and drive from the mind, our creations into reality. We make progress in our process to get more for less, advancing society before the dawn of the age of technology that harness the energy to reach prosperity.

1112
01:25:13.989 --> 01:25:24.650
Our money embodies the power to reap what we sow, so the market becomes a channel for our collective energy to flow. When value is traded for value, we are aligned and so we evolve.

1113
01:25:24.965 --> 01:25:26.664
This is how amidst uncertainty,

1114
01:25:27.284 --> 01:25:28.744
life continues to grow.

1115
01:25:29.284 --> 01:25:44.820
But the dawn of tech gave rise to light speed information exchange. So to transact fast, we further abstract money from energy constraints and became more aligned on a few large entities to coordinate trade, concentrating the power, resources, and authority to create

1116
01:25:45.200 --> 01:25:52.660
more and more of our money, distorting its signals, eroding its worth, and throwing us back into the darkness of chaos.

1117
01:26:07.935 --> 01:26:08.835
When we destroy

1118
01:26:09.400 --> 01:26:14.460
the mechanism of money, we destroy our ability to navigate through uncertainty.

1119
01:26:15.160 --> 01:26:18.060
And when we can't trade value freely and directly,

1120
01:26:18.520 --> 01:26:27.095
we must trust the few to govern the many. What happens when all our means center around an authority? Complexity builds, now coordination

1121
01:26:27.635 --> 01:26:52.775
relies on conformity. Observe our thoughts, the sense of dissent and coerce our actions. Can there be true innovation when there's no freedom of expression? What happens to our voice for one set shapes social discourse now whose ideas gets created and which problems get solved? If our progress depends on hearing many sides to resolve, then why would we suppress the voice that shapes how humanity evolves? When we cut off the perspectives

1122
01:26:53.075 --> 01:26:57.975
that make up society, we lose sight of the truth that forms our entire reality.

1123
01:26:58.435 --> 01:26:59.735
Each person's contribution

1124
01:27:00.035 --> 01:27:05.200
builds up our resiliency. Did we forget these differences, are what strengthens humanity?

1125
01:27:06.540 --> 01:27:20.375
When communication breaks, our words turn to silence. Our acts become violent and the world is divided, and its darkness, truth is twisted by our pain and our bias, eroding the common ground, making us us more and more fragile.

1126
01:27:21.554 --> 01:27:24.295
To navigate uncertainty, we must solve for robustness,

1127
01:27:24.675 --> 01:27:35.540
so everything gets tried and tested by various efforts, until we discover the system that best coordinates us. Mirrors life's process of channeling energy to create signal from chaos.

1128
01:27:36.160 --> 01:28:18.094
In the era of technology, we transform energy into computational power to process the noise of free markets into structured order. And just by looking at numbers, we can derive how much power is required to reduce chaos and inscribe a flow of value for order verify that our transactions happened in line with shared rules. We don't need to seek trust when we can seek proof. It is real time consensus that our lines is to evolve. This is how, amidst uncertainty, our lives continue to grow when we have a hold our own rules, we preserve our own work, and defend our own voice, which lets the true market emerge. The strength of the design lies in each of our participation since we are the nodes of channel our energy end to end. As we claim responsibility

1129
01:28:18.555 --> 01:28:22.895
to uphold our own rights, we radiate the power that brings our truth

1130
01:28:23.275 --> 01:28:24.175
into light

1131
01:28:28.020 --> 01:28:46.395
and when that dawn of light touches all parts of the globe and it ripples throughout society and it returns us the hope that becomes the power that sparks humanity to thrive, the same power that fuels the creation of the mind. And when our mind and our money are truly set free and they transcend the limits

1132
01:28:46.695 --> 01:28:48.075
of past boundaries,

1133
01:28:48.455 --> 01:29:07.920
now knowing becomes owning and ideas become wealth. What happens now we can all push to expand the edges of our existence and assume evolution when things are the hardest. As we head for the light, we have to push through the darkness that is in these moments. We do what we do first. We take the chaos in the darkness and use our power to create.

1134
01:29:08.220 --> 01:29:20.585
It is in these moments when we're all in alignment and afraid of a difference, ascends us to a highest and distant depth of it all. Though that hope is not gone, it is always the darkest before dawn.

1135
01:29:32.340 --> 01:29:35.880
Love you, freaks. I hope you enjoyed that rip. Sorry for the technical difficulties.

1136
01:29:36.580 --> 01:29:39.000
Once again, I'm on the road. I'm working on it.

1137
01:29:40.305 --> 01:29:44.725
But I appreciate you all, especially everyone who supports the show and comes and joins us in the live chat.

1138
01:29:46.705 --> 01:29:48.805
You guys make it all worth it. So thank you.

1139
01:29:49.665 --> 01:29:51.925
Next week, I have Adam back joining us.

1140
01:29:52.800 --> 01:29:58.340
I don't know exactly when. I'm shooting for Wednesday, 23rd at 1700 UTC, but that might change.

1141
01:29:59.120 --> 01:30:00.820
I'll keep you guys updated on Noster.

1142
01:30:01.760 --> 01:30:06.885
That outro, I did last week as well. That's tip n z. You can find her

1143
01:30:07.204 --> 01:30:07.864
on Noster

1144
01:30:08.324 --> 01:30:10.585
and probably all the other social media,

1145
01:30:11.284 --> 01:30:11.945
out there.

1146
01:30:12.565 --> 01:30:13.945
But you just search tip_nz.

1147
01:30:15.684 --> 01:30:19.385
I think she's fucking crushing it, which is why I just doubled up on an outro.

1148
01:30:20.405 --> 01:30:21.385
I love you all.

1149
01:30:21.867 --> 01:30:23.567
Stay on the Stack Sides. Cheers.