4.6 - What Happens When You Interview Co-Workers...

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welcome welcome um coffee talk no if i like being on the

side of the camera coffee talk episode six is that right i

double checked with jamie so yes yes right well somebody's got it together today

episode 5 is getting released as we speak nice the sad part is i can't just be over

there and like hey is that correct that's what i'm saying correct because yeah she has to look over the table and be like is that correct was that right

all right so as you may have noticed our guest today is one of our very own jamie burns jamie is the marketing manager

here at the annenberg presidential conference center she started as assistant manager in 2014 moved to

manager in 2018 transitioned to her current role in 2020 she's now back to being a manager

that's one clarification that is true thank you president banks for that one

what nobody watches she has over 15 years of experience in event planning

marketing and communication previously she coordinated events and managed marketing efforts as a sales and

marketing coordinator for a healthcare consulting firm in dallas texas and managed several

competitive dance studios in the dallas fort worth area that's grammatical yeah that's like a run-off there's a pause in

that i just didn't breathe there is looking at it there's no punctuations to allow for breathing you know when i was

in college my mom always had to proofread my papers because of commas

because like in school they taught you put commas where you take a breath well

yes you don't breathe when you talk no i i well i mean i do but yeah so anyway so

sometimes i struggle with i love the oxford comma as my friend um

jamie graduated from texas a m university in 2009 with a ba in communication

and a minor in tourism management she graduated from ibm venue management school in 2019 has her cvp certified

venue professional certification through iavm and is a professional certified marketer through the american marketing

association with a marketing management certification

that's a lot that sounds i don't pretentious

yeah see you don't like being on the other end of it no yeah i'm gonna i'm gonna go tweak that so it doesn't so dr

taylor was like oh you're gonna read all that yeah but you're serious i've had to i mean i even cut out a paragraph of

hers wow mine's like forceful she cut out the party i got out the fun part like i have

a dog named ginger what i like to do you know all that stuff yeah i cut that part out

i mean you should have cut out the like certifications and then just left the ginger the ginger

part yeah she's not qualified but she has a dog he has a snaggle tooth

i feel like she has two dogs now she basically does sorry tammy you take care of your own dog

all right so aside from all of the stuff that you do with us all the things and your 14 other lives

you're 14 in your life you do have quite a bit

of experience within the music industry sort of sure

um so tell us about that um what you can

tell us about that oh my gosh what you're willing to divulge the the you know

the 15th life no um so when i was in college i mean i've always

liked music um i guess i mean i guess when i was in high school i asked my mom pretty regularly like

you know you took me to concerts a lot you let me go she was like well i mean it was fun you're fine most the time my

mom went with me um and so when i graduated from high school like

my plan was to come to a m well i wanted to either major in dance

like to note the heavy eye roll on that one they can see it i know but i want to make sure i point it out

i either wanted to major in dance which my parents informed me that um they were

not going to pay for college if i was majoring in dance so

um i didn't major in dance and so the other dream was that i was going to

move to nashville and work in the music industry but

so i came to a m but i'm not super adventurous when it comes to things so [Music]

um i just started working pr and um like working merch and

you know that was it wasn't pre-social media but when i was in college was when facebook

was still like college students only um you had to have a university email

so there wasn't like a whole lot of social media marketing at that point it was more

walk around campus with um posters

and like actually call radio stations and request songs um that's how that's

up so for a lot of you know up and coming bands they start in college towns

because it's easier um and so that was pretty much my

my life during the week um was going to music and

it was not the same i actually just saw the same thing no so she didn't mention class at all i mean

yeah i wasn't uh she got a degree and i have a degree i graduated in four years

um i have my aggie rings i know life is that's the first thing that pops me out okay rub it in it's just a five-year

plan public to private it's i lost a lot of credit i came into a m with

a lot of hours and i took mini masters and summer classes every time or i would

not have graduated in four years um so

um but yes no i i didn't go to class much that first year um

again sorry tammy oh she's aware i know she she saw my you know they had this

thing where your parents could sign up for like a parent portal to your grades

and they could log in and see your grades let's just say after that first year that um

that um privilege was taken away from my parents

all right yeah okay um so you went out you papered northgate yes in campus and we would like on

saturday mornings it sounds weird but like we would literally sit in a living room and

call radio stations and request songs and send emails to

um like request music videos and like that's just how that worked it seems

foreign now but not really because there's people that i feel like are hired to do like the

google searches and they search name so it pops up so it's kind of the same thing yeah i mean different era people

get paid to sit there and put names in the search bar so that way someone else becomes more so it becomes like you're for on the first page yeah that's how

many times it's searched um yeah i mean my i mean my job my senior

year um at a m was in the marketing communications department and i mean that's literally

one of my tasks was to google a m and kind of see where they were but

for the same reason like one to see what was being said about a m and what news stories were out there and then two

because it increases all right so

so that's kind of my um you know experience music industry just kind of

helping people out just more like a as a fun thing i mean i was going to see the music anyway might as well promote it

fair yeah so from that from that a very strong love for music yeah so you

go to concerts and stuff pretty regular i say regularly once covet hit that kind of you know changed everything

yes yeah so when we were talking how long ago was this few weeks so i've been to many concerts with jamie

which you know not all of my favorite you know they her and tanner took me who is it

that sings that awful song wade bowen there you go um he just did what she was referring to

oh no it's tanner and hers favorite song and we sing to her yes and i absolutely it's like how i feel about the frozen

song well it's it's kind of like yeah but that's but that's exactly how

we sing it i just say the letter do you have to edit it out or do i have to say the whole word for it to be edited out

yeah get my drift oh yeah yeah it's lost and found stupid song

it's so dumb in fact it was my ringtone when i was in college yeah it's the same way i feel about freaking george strait song like

yes or no i love george strait but that's he didn't write any of his music so yeah yeah i don't i don't like check yes or no either it's a terrible song

whatever and the video is i am well i mean i i mean i like lyrics

yeah me too that's why i like music because the lyric has to speak to me now half the time when i listen to you know

some hip-hop rap i don't understand everything uh-huh because they talk too fast

so i have to google so that that helps the google helps so anyway so we were talking because one of our

favorite bands got back together and is starting to after a three-year hiatus yes three-year

hiatus um not because of covid yeah but but covet i think helped anyway

yes i don't know who you're talking about turnpike troubadours oh okay yeah and i

didn't get introduced to them until i got married or not married until i started dating tanner and then you know the more i got

to know jamie after first couple years maybe sure all the crying went to the wayside

after sarah made me cry every day you brought it up i did you are correct

but i didn't do it purposefully um there was a lot going on so anyway so we found a similar interest in love for music and

attending things and so um when we found out turnpike was coming back to tour

um jamie i'm sure you have don't you have like notifications for like

certain bands things like that i still haven't figured out how to do that yet on google but yes i'm cool with it

yes i have google alerts that i have i mean specific bands on social media like i

have favorited and notifications so that i know if they make announcements turnpike is one of them because they

pretty much went silent on everything everything i mean they're band members and some other

people but like the band as a whole took down their website um twitter they're like done they lock

their twitter yeah i mean people like i mean you know and the situation around it is

sad but at the same time it's a very fortunate thing now for him um the lead singer and

so not my business yes well i mean it's been all over i mean yeah if you'd like

to know the story just just google it just google turnpike troubadours and miranda lambert and

it'll give you like the beginning of all of the nonsense yeah so to say she's one of my least favorite she is so just yeah

anyway i like her i like some of her music yes i don't think that turnpike or and miranda will be touring together

anytime soon we're not here for the gossip yeah

it's not gossip it's not gossip it's like a bunch of hens nah it's not gossip so anyway so we found out that they had

finally announced jamie actually told us um she screenshotted the image of it and sent it to tanner and i of course i'm

like here you're right next door you know the kid was gonna come running into my office to tell me well because i felt

like it was something that needed to be shared at the same time to you and tanner so she didn't get in trouble for telling you first it wouldn't matter i

responded to the text message like an hour before him so of course you did but i just yeah i just felt like it was

important yeah so in all of this we started talking about

um because they have such a huge following and so many people want to see

them come back to perform that jamie got wind of the first place they

were going to be doing a concert and kind of

won how they handled the ticket like basically the first venue announcement that was hosting it and what the whole ticketing situation was and it's

actually really interesting because because of that a lot of other things started they started adapting at other venues

where they're performing to um combat a lot of the scalping issues

yes so the first place that they were gonna the first announcement was red

rocks in colorado and the show is scheduled in may

um and it was they were doing two nights and when they announced it i think tickets

were going on zell two days later um

we we making the cameraman she's sitting up because she sees her picture over there oh which i would like for him to flip

that so i can stop seeing myself slouching but whatever i like it it's cool and i'll leave it

you're fine um i'll do like this like you do to me or whack you under the table like you do to me

yeah i don't play with another table okay so red rocks so they announced it but what they've been doing is they've

been announcing the show and the tickets go on sale like two days later so

when red rocks was announced um i of course you know

was like all right do i have anything on my calendar at that time like what am i gonna do

um not not how am i going to get there who's going to come with me if i get these kind of tickets like it was just like oh no that yeah let's figure that

out later i mean at this point i was like maybe i'll just get one ticket and i'll go by myself

so that was so red rocks well so when they um

tickets went on sale um red rocks has a

awful system for waiting um it's it's a known thing tickets sell

out pretty fast just shows there um but when you logged in i mean tickets

sold out in under five minutes um it crashed systems um

there were like i've never seen like i've never seen it

as much but they basically these sites have like a a

tracking bar with this little guy that's walking he's walking across the screen and it starts on one side

and you see like the progression and like you know it's great if you're in the middle but if you like if you're a little if

you log in and your little guy is like way on the left side and it needs to be all the way

on the right side you're like well i'm gonna wait anyway for like 30

minutes just to see yeah maybe people will drop out yeah so yeah yeah so no you can't hit

refresh because it'll kick you out kick you out because a lot of it's like an active okay yeah it's like an active

thing and um with red rocks i think i tried on three

different so i like i had my phone my laptop and

um yeah were you in in line three places yes that's why there's so many people that

crash the system well and then yeah so i mean come to find out it you

know like you could actually do different browsers there was a whole lot of things like i said red rocks does not have a great system but they also don't

care like i mean yeah essentially like they have they're gonna sell regardless yeah and

so that was the first um really fun thing did you figure out how

many people were actually on at the same time that one i didn't um i don't think that

one did some of the sites would tell you like what place you were in line so their first show back was actually this

past weekend um at cane's ballroom in oklahoma

capacity there is 1600 people

at one point starting small well so there is this near their hometown it's

another hometown they have a song written about like the street corner i mean

um so they played two nights and um they had i have to look at my notes

because i did write down what they did um so they had a four ticket limit

um they did mail some of the tickets um but they did check ids if you picked up

it will call like you had to show your id they were not changing names on the tickets so

um that was that but at one point they had 70 000 people logged in to purchase

tickets to a their show of 16 yeah dang oh 1800 sorry

see i wrote it down i still messed it up can't read your own handwriting no i just yeah so i mean that was kane's

yeah i mean and then billy bob's um capacity is six thousand um i'm pretty

sure billy bobs is the one that kind of told you like what place in line you were in

um and also the one with fort worth okay and a lot of times um

[Music] like they would let you into a waiting room like 30 minutes before

um the tickets went on sale and i logged in every time exactly i didn't try to get

tickets to keynes but um um yeah i told jamie if she got tickets

to billy bob's i ain't going i don't even i mean billy bob's isn't my favorite

place either so at that point though i was like just ready yeah yeah because what

happens if they do like three shows and then all of a sudden they're done like right and so don't do it anymore and so my was

i tried to get tickets to the places that i was okay with i got tickets i would go i mean but oklahoma i wasn't

going now i know it sounds ridiculous i was willing to go to colorado but you know just didn't have room and board i

could have called britney and connor yeah that's true they would have gone with you actually that's true well they

probably would have taken weston only four ticket limit can't take five

oh yeah um so um but

at any point like billy bob's there were between 50 000 and 100 000 people logged in at a

time i think at one point i was like 35 000 in line and like i said i logged in

right when they released so does it does everyone make you wonder if they have um

i don't know i wouldn't say like some people get preference or some people who know the people that work at the venue or the band like how do they

get how do you get in line so quickly so some not have sudden link yeah

sudden suck it's apparently changing again yeah yeah okay anyways um

so some of the venues depending on whatever some of the venues it didn't matter when you logged in like it was random

like at 10 o'clock it was random um i feel like this good business though at least like yes so like you could get

in and you like you could log in all of your information and have everything ready and be there but it was more like

a lottery kind of random type thing some venues did

the houston venue actually did which when i logged in um

30 minutes before those tickets went on sale i was 17 000 in line

um i don't know how many people they had logged in but that venue actually did something really cool

um the so after red rocks and that whole thing i don't think ever

anybody had really realized the extent of what it was going to be like so a lot

of people started figuring out creative ways to

help as many fans get tickets as possible um so you so the houston venue

announced on like a monday that tickets went on until that friday

but if you came to their venue on that wednesday night they had like a you know

a house band or just you know an up and coming band plane you could come starting at five o'clock

and get a wristband and stay eat dinner

order drinks listen to the band play and then at eight o'clock that evening

they were going to anybody that had a wristband they were basically going to give a pre-sale password that you were

guaranteed to be able to order two tickets yeah i thought that was super cool yeah

um totally would have gone with you well we talked about it in the event meeting yeah like we could go right now

yeah but you didn't yeah and either to tanner even though he was like i'm game yeah yeah he was game to go to the

concert he didn't comprehend she was talking about driving with her to houston because at the time i couldn't drive yes

or i would have driven myself but yes so that was the first adjustment

to all of this yeah which i thought was really cool and um i mean everything i read and people i

talked to said it was really um it was really real ran like

um because they did it as like kind of a wristband thing and they they you know they limited it but it wasn't like

they did have kind of a line of people but since they did it at five o'clock on a wednesday you pretty much were

garrett you know i mean most of the time it was only people in houston yeah to get there at five

o'clock i mean you'd have to do some and like i said it's kind of like with the tickets um

they didn't give you much notice so it wasn't like they announced this and you had a month to plan right you had two days time off request

him so i mean she has a cool boss that let her go or was gonna let her go she just

couldn't drive with her and then she told me well who are you

going to take me or tanner yeah well because i think that one was the two ticket minimum yeah and so then i was

like so then i was like whoa yeah that's a hard one so i'm just gonna knock it down two and then if you had

gone then you'd have gotten two and she could have taken tammy and you could have taken tanner or vice versa oh

should tammy would have come i don't know she didn't like turnpike does she um she doesn't dislike turnpike but like i

didn't buy her ticket too yeah yeah no she my stomach sorry if anyone's

listening to this did you eat this morning no i was running late

yeah that's my own fault sorry peeps if you heard my stomach it's loud it is loud

yes so this is really cool so have more venues started to do that um have we heard of it i haven't heard

anything else like that often he wasn't um i

can't remember because of course you would ask that question yeah i was actually just thinking that

um they did something cool we should give them a shout out we will and i yeah i

don't no i don't remember but

yeah um so white oak yes okay

yes yep um white oak musical

so yeah but we didn't get tickets we didn't get tickets um i didn't get tickets to

that show that night because i didn't go on wednesday and i did not get tickets because i was seventeen thousand in line

and i don't know what capacity is there but um not so much

and i think um day of ticket sales like that i think ticket sell i think ticket

limit was for like online sales so um also billy bob's um which a bunch of

people complained but there was a six ticket limit jeez um for billy bob's

um there's a lot of tickets they actually added a third show

um after i mean because really the the first two shows sold out in less than five minutes

so white oak has amphitheater with a lawn plus two indoor

spaces capacity of entire indoors and outdoors is 3 200. yeah

you just do the music hall it's 1200 and i guess there's an upstairs area that's 250.

yeah so i don't i mean i think at this point turned pike could probably

sell out every single day if they played a lot of things i mean as a matter of fact i think they're going to well

they've started announcing more like festivals this summer and like larger type things but most of

the festivals are outside of texas yes um there is a there is a festival that they announced that's in

like maybe september or october that's in huddle um

but um it's kind of random yes there's a radio station well but

they have a large i can't remember what their summer festival they have a large festival every year in coke fest yeah

koke is the radio station and they always do that and um there's been a lot of festivals that

have already been in the planning process and already have artists that are playing and turnpike has just announced they're participating now more

in these yes and so um that has been good i mean you know

tickets the selling out of those isn't

you know they're they're larger capacity they're outside of texas um tickets are a lot more expensive

because they're you know one and two day concert festivals but um

i think i read an article and um the other day that basically said

you know they they really didn't i mean turnpike did not have any idea that this was going to happen i mean

they knew like they probably knew they had a following but like the but the i don't

think anybody realized to what extent and they said does it you know they're like we're kind of worried about one day

like when we're not selling out shows in five minutes like what that's going to look like like but they'll be fine yeah i mean they

were jokingly saying it um so they're playing whitewater in new braunfels

october in october and so when did we find out about this like three weeks ago

not yelling at tickets yet oh no we do oh yeah [Laughter]

this is how all this started so i mean i guess i can you know call

myself out for you know buying tickets and working hours but i definitely bought tickets in the middle of recording a podcast yes doesn't say

that's two of the podcasts that we've recorded she's been there like multitasking with trying to buy tickets

um so yes we did get tickets to the to the show in whitewater new braunfels in october

so they had a friday night show and a saturday night show and so i

had my phone was the friday night show and

my laptop was the saturday night show um

michael so kindly watched me and made fun of me the whole

time yeah we have a picture we can show the picture later we've proof of watching the two screens

and oh that was i think that that picture is actually from that was i think that was

red rocks oh that might have been yeah the red rocks one was like actually mid

recording um whitewater was actually before we were recording we swear we work here yeah um

we do we were we're just really good at multitasking um i was preparing for a podcast yeah

and so i logged in and the same thing it didn't it didn't um give you a number that you

were in line but it it told you like don't refresh your screen like you're in line if you

refresh it's going to and these are pre-sale only right yes and so what whitewater did was um

and they didn't really publicize it but a few people like when they announced a show like on

twitter like they would respond and be like how are you going to prevent scalping or how are you going to do this and they would respond and say

if you you know subscribe to our email but they weren't like blasting that out really like hey

subscribe to our email we're sending a pre-sale well that's how i found out and i sent you the email is because i am

subscribed to their stuff and i have been for a while since we saw turnpike last time and that's also how i found

out about whiskey myers last year right and so um they didn't like they didn't announce

a pre-sale on any social media sites just the email just the email and so they released the pre-sell and then um

they were they only did a certain amount of the pre-sale it was journal admission only um the fun fact is is that they

didn't tell you ticker prices until they went on sale so that was really fun

i was like okay i mean like how much do i have in savings yeah like i said didn't buy my mom a ticket

because i was like nope you don't love them that much and i was right they were

yeah um tickets were 100 a piece do we have seats or no i can't remember we do not have seats yeah this is the standing

one um and 100 for a concert ticket oh no we have oh i mean i have but but for people

that i was just like yes but that's a pretty high ticket price for

yeah general admission general admission especially at their place because it's all outdoors they've added some seating

and some higher level seating yes it's now more boxed in than it used to be more open

amphitheater but yeah it's um yeah yeah i mean when i bought the tickets for

tanner and i when we went and saw whiskey meyers they were not that price yeah they were cheaper um

and so saturday night on i mean the screen refreshed and it kept

refreshing so it refreshed on its own and then it said tickets were sold out and again i logged in right when i could

with a what was that within like 10 minutes yes and so this one actually was a little bit like

they i don't know what system they use but you could actually tell that it was like

like it wasn't gonna crash like i felt i felt pretty comfortable that it wasn't gonna crash like it it looked like a pretty good system as far as a waiting

line goes and it was holding your place in line and so um

yeah um so then my so i like look at my

computer and i turn my computer off and then i look at my phone and it was like you have your tickets and i was like whoa

but then of course you get like a timer of like you only have a few minutes to buy tickets and of course you know it

would have been easier on my computer because i could have like typed and so then i'm like trying to put in all the information on

my phone as quickly as i can so we don't lose the tickets um because i'd heard stories of people

like saying that they got tickets and then they like hit the checkout button and they're like sorry we ran into an error

oh so so i was trying like not to like be excited

but um yes so she was excited i got three tickets um to the friday night show um also i

before we got tickets and before that i actually went on airbnb and

found a place with um a hundred percent cancellation policy and actually booked

a place to stay close to the venue before tickets went on sale people jacked their prices up basically

and that's before there was no availability that's exactly what happened because yes

so that was smart she knows how to do all this well yeah you want a how-to on how to get into all

yeah she's she's got it so she she's the one that always purchases tickets and i just send her the money

and i and i've kind of always been like that but you know as far as tickets i mean

i mean my mom if she wants to go somewhere she's the same way like i want to go to this like

get me tickets um and i i've just done it long enough i mean the jerry jeff walker memorial concert

is one that comes to mind because i'm actually shocked i got tickets to that too it sold out in two minutes

um but it was the same thing that was also small too wasn't it um i don't know how many they sold but it was an ounce i

mean it was in lukenbock but i mean it was i i couldn't tell you i'm not good at

guessing but i mean it didn't count several thousand people because i mean it was

um it wasn't in the actual dance hall it was like the whole ground oh okay and they did like it on the outside stage

um but yeah i mean it sold out in two minutes i believe that um so but again if i've done it long enough

that i generally know how so then i was getting frustrated with myself not getting

turnpike tickets yeah but it was meant to be for us to go to whitewater yes because that's like that's one of my

favorite venues anyway but so what's the what's the cool thing about whitewater and your tickets so

they are not one you can't change names and then two they are not emailing you your tickets

until 48 hours before the event so um you can't resell you can't resell

like i mean that's the thing um a lot of people are like you know tickets are already you know

three times as much on the secondary marketplace well they may beep but there's no way to verify that those are

real tickets and that has especially with um i mean i think actually during covid and then because people were

limiting concerts and different things so a lot of people were trying to resell tickets

and i've noticed a lot of [Music] oh an increase in fake tickets of people

trying to sell and using social media um a lot of um a lot of my friends that work in the

music business um have said you know like they've had to hire social media

people to literally just sit on social media all day to monitor people posting on their pages or posting in their fan

groups trying to sell tickets that aren't real um i i mean

there's been several times that you know they said we have these four tickets and and you know the people will give like a

story of like you know we can't go because we're in the hospital or you know something you know something to try

to be you know the emotional side of it and these i mean the people in the music

industry have had to start going like these aren't even tickets you can resell like i don't like because they'll say

like at the end like tickets in hand will you know whatever and they're like how do you have tickets in hand like they're digital tickets and you have to

show them on a digital screen like you can't like people are not very smart so

yeah when i um saw dropkick murphy's a couple years ago in boston i ended up with an extra

ticket because the person that was supposed to be going with me ended up in jail um

going that direction so i had a ticket and for that venue like you could still print them out like they

tell you like hey print them out in case your phone dies and whatever right whatever so i had to print literally

walking through the line of people waiting to buy tickets and i was like you can have it like i'm not even trying to sell it like you can have this ticket

it's an extra ticket like and nobody would take it yeah i've had like yeah seriously like i mean i were

expensive i mean they were i mean i've sold i mean i've sold tickets before like to things that i can't go to

but um but i also sell them yeah but she uses like a ticketing software platform don't

you normally yeah i mean usually i i mean usually i use stubhub um i mean i think um

but yeah just to like go on like facebook or twitter and be like hey i have tickets really good i mean inside

the venue yeah like come on people use your brains like yeah i mean it's i mean i mean even selling like

football tickets and and things like that like i i mean the uni like i mean a m uses

subhub like you can directly post your tickets like so they like on your assist on your

account that has your tickets that you digitally download you can actually collect them and select them online and

click sell and it communicates with stubhub so like there's an easy way

um to sell them also it's monitored yeah

um you know you're getting a fair market value for the ticket so 300 ticket yeah yeah i mean and you

know i mean i understand like i mean i i'm not gonna say i've never sold tickets for over face value but i've

also never tried to i've never not sold actual tickets yeah yeah um i mean i i i

think oh i was when i was in nashville a few years ago i had bought tickets to nora jones um

at the ryman that would be cool on subhub and

they're supposed to i mean they give you like a i think 24 or 48 hours that they guarantee delivery of tickets well

we had got to nashville and it was like i think it was 48 hours before the show and i still don't have my tickets and so

i emailed stubhub and they couldn't get in contact with a seller and so

they actually refunded my money and found me tickets um and actually gave them to me

for the same price and we actually got better tickets but um i mean you know a sold out show where

there's not a lot of things that you know but stubhub is like as much as i don't

like their fees and i don't like all those things those things are nice because i mean they pretty much guarantee if

they're able to get you into this show they will so um because what happened was is that

the you know you can when you're selling your tickets you have to agree to

um upload your tickets within 48 hours and i guess the person didn't and so we

didn't have them um but they took your money and went anyway they took our money and so then subhub

goes and cancels and and they don't pay you out until the show happens

um because i sold tickets to um ellie andrew holcomb at paramount and um

and the concert was i sold him in january and the concert was in march and i didn't get paid until like the second

week of april it's smart though too i mean it covers them so for things like what happened yeah i

mean like i said i mean you know we would have figured it out but yeah i mean it was like i said we actually had center like

eight rows back like dang for like really cheap because i was like yeah no not buying yeah so it

actually worked out great for me it usually does all right yes so let's

shift from music since we're focusing so much on ticketing today um

let's shift to what you were talking about the 2017 stanley cup okay so i

don't know this has probably happened since then i just was really into the 2017 stanley cup um

nashville predators versus the pittsburgh penguins um and

um so yeah i know you missed it sarah did that yesterday when she was making her ice cream she like literally did it and

turned so i could take her picture yes she did it was really lovely yeah um

and so um nashville i don't know they have such a a weird

fan base when it comes to their hockey team um so in that like they're not as like they've

never been a hockey town and then all of a sudden their hockey team got good and so

yeah they had jump on the bandwagon they did i mean you know they definitely were so

when they were in the playoffs they limited tickets

to um you had to be within the like nashville

like tv network so you had to be in tennessee kentucky mississippi alabama or georgia and that had to be your

billing address if you wanted to buy tickets um an article i was reading which i'll link or

whatever but it was cheaper to buy tickets to pittsburgh to see an away game and

fly than how much tickets for to see in the

nashville on this secondary market because nobody was selling their tickets because they actually wanted to go yeah

but that but that's how they were preventing yeah and so then um

after nashville did that then of course pittsburgh was like well we're gonna do that

and then now i think i don't know if we talked about it on here or we talked about i think we talked about it in like a meeting one time but that's actually

the time that the fan from nashville i don't know i'm sure yes i'm sure he had a

um friend god that was so long ago we did that was one of the topics we did in a staff meeting yes so

so what okay so we were doing this thing with our our event intern where it's like we were trying to discuss

because not everyone at the time had been like fully involved in ibm and really knowing

a lot about venues and our students for example didn't obviously most of them come from like oh this just seems fun

i've helped plan a party let's see what this is like um so i had our market or our event intern

um start pulling like topics interesting topics that were in the news and we kind of shifted around to everybody so jamie

found this one right was you yeah yeah because well i mean i was watching the game yes

yes yeah so this fan this nashville fan flies into pittsburgh like it tickets

everything to this game i don't even know how the hell they made it through security or how on a plane it didn't smell literally war were the fish so

it was a thing like yeah they throw fish they go nice fish on the ice at the predators games so what pittsburgh had

done was like they had basically restricted they had restricted fish sales to people that had

a tennessee driver's license because whatever so he bought a ticket flew i mean i'm sure

i'm getting this story so am i wrong because it's well we can go back and find i still have it in a

folder but i mean it was so and so then he got to the game

so he flew with it got to the game got through security and then got to the game and actually

threw it on the ice and of course got escorted out of the venue that was my first question though

how the heck whatever does anyone not smell that on a plane like he must have

really wrapped himself in bubble wrap and all that kind of stuff because like you can just wrap the fish individually

in saran wrap really well i mean yeah like it was like yeah because like this is like a cooling vest and then you

put it inside the vest and so but yes but but like i said but yes so

pittsburgh restricted fish sales to people outside of pittsburgh yeah

where are they now we can we'll look it up i'll see if i can figure i have the article saved

somewhere so we'll have to look it up but yeah so just venues in general trying to do

weird things um really you know it's creative though like but it's also sad that you're restricting fish sales so

now you no longer have to have an id just to buy alcohol you have to go have an id to buy a fish like

it's just like if you're not a hockey fan you're like why if you don't even read the news what

is it yeah so um yeah so i'll find that article and i'll send it to you because we did we talked

about this right as it all was happening yeah okay so fun hockey all right let's shift to the

very last thing um our wonderful tom brady

retirement non-retirement whatever the hell he's doing these days apparently he's running the whole team yeah

and the ticket sales yeah okay so yeah he has yeah very indirect yeah anyway so

tampa bay so tom brady comes back and what does tampa pay

left yeah okay well he did retired but the memes are hilarious the part where it's like oh he went home and spent like

two weeks with his kids he's like yep nope not doing this like no just kidding i'm like i can totally relate

but yes so he decides to not retire right what happens with the tickets so

they um they are limiting tickets um for the lower bowl portion so

like if you want to buy those tickets you have to have a floor district florida driver's license um not even

like billion address type thing like um you have to show proof of residency in

florida and then um yeah i guess i was thinking that earlier like someone could just get a po box and still buy a ticket

yes and then um if you are a new season ticket holder you have to

pay for two years up front so um if he only stays a year you're still

guaranteed to they're still making money off of him even if he doesn't step foot on the

field because yeah i mean you know yeah so i mean i think it's

interesting i think it will be interesting i mean i don't i haven't seen like a follow-up yeah i'm sure they

haven't like i'm sure they haven't finalized ticket sales and done those things yet but it will be interesting to see

i'm i would be concerned for the team as a whole if like people are only liking you for one

player like if they're only going to see this one player like that's why everybody went to go see new England

well him and then um exactly can't even remember the other guy's name gronkowski

right gronk yeah yeah cause he isn't he now with wasn't he with the buccaneers or am i making that up you're making

that up yeah i was like i think he was here

well he went with him and you do it's just lsu let's get honest here but but

yes he went with him and i thought gronk retired this year is he coming back now too i don't think it's been announced

yeah so um yeah so they put all these restrictions

on ticket sales now i mean it's kind of i mean i'll all all out myself on this one but

like it's like a m football tickets like the years we don't play Alabama and auburn

at home i do not buy season tickets yeah like i i mean it's it's not

it's not financial it's not financially not willing to travel like yeah well it just i mean you know i mean and

i mean i love aggie football like more than a lot of people and i'm still like

no I'm good like i don't have season tickets for next season i will go to games but i don't have season tickets

and i will buy them again the next year when we play Alabama auburn

well i mean it's just I'm i think it's interesting that

venues and teams and things are starting to do um like this i don't think you should make

these decisions based on players players yes i agree um but like

how Nashville was doing it for their hockey team like okay yeah i can see that like that's fine

but if you're doing it because of one player well and i think um you got bigger problems

yes i mean my assumption is is the amount of people that canceled their season tickets after he retired I'm sure they

were thinking well they can guarantee at least some revenue for two years

um i mean you know i i don't agree with it but maybe they just have better players on

their team so it's not just one piece or you know well in Nashville i mean

yes they were good that season but Nashville like from a hockey standpoint is one of the like most fun places to go

watch a hockey game yeah so like you know from a venue standpoint from a team standpoint like

make it fun i mean we were talking about the savannah bananas what yeah what the the baseball team

that oh yeah oh you haven't seen the video the one i didn't know who it was okay so

okay Havana bananas savannah bananas like savannah Georgia right Georgia

yeah okay so um opening day

right it was for opening day of this i just happened to be on

i was looking at the news because i don't have Facebook so i don't see all this and of course this is not what like really twitter i mean twitter might have

but like all those people who tic talk that's not really what this is but um so i was on the news looking and all of

a sudden a video popped up in the middle about like this team and what they did for the opening pitch of the game and

they literally the entire infield did the dance with the pitcher and then he threw the first ball i mean it's it

was hilarious i was like what is this a joke you're gonna say they were all in banana costumes well they they do have

people like in Minneapolis and they do something every time um every game i mean the other day i saw something where

they one of the players was basically doing ballet dances out like

in the middle of the field so like here's a perfect picture and i mean I'd go watch them

yes i mean so i mean i don't know how long but i mean um yeah but they they have like one of

the highest attendance yeah they're crazy now so oh they're doing them

yeah and it's a league where mo it's like a it's actually it's a summer league where college um yeah like a farm

like yeah where college players go I'll have to find the video and we'll put we'll we'll tag it but yeah they

literally they did this whole i mean it was choreographed perfectly like i saw the so when you're seeing the video it's

obviously focused on the picture and i saw him doing this we was like well that's a weird like prep for your throw

like i mean my child has a weird prep for his throw but watch him do this and all of a sudden i

see the guys behind him doing this too and i was like oh this is totally choreographed like this is really interesting

and of course then you can see the umpire behind like even though he's covered in all this stuff you can see him chuckling so i was like

what is this yeah so i told Michael and Jamie about it and they told me what it was and i had never even heard of him

but it was funny i thoroughly enjoyed it when i first saw it yeah i had to watch it twice i think i i have to find it but

there was a a podcast that i was listening to and they actually had like the like one

of the people that worked for the savannah band is on the podcast just to kind of talk about some of the things i

have to find it but it's fun even back okay back when the Astros

sucked and when they weren't cheating when they weren't cheating back when whoa when i

was a kid my sister and i would always go to Astros games because one the tickets were super cheap um and then they would always do like

the first 200 people would get something for free yeah but i mean you know it was like Astros

beanie babies one day you know like the Astros have so many bobbleheads

before bobbleheads but it was just cool and then sometimes like they weren't giving bobbleheads

away that was like expensive stuff but it was fun and then they would always have like a kids day where like

okay kids got in free you know they were like doing stuff for the community

where they would like coordinate with the venues and you know it was fun

i think baseball is a perfect um atmosphere to do stuff like that in because it is you know

besides rockets would do it too well yeah but i mean besides usually even though the Astros are kind of

inside yeah but well but even then like the as a kid you grew up like besides football

like baseball has always been you know America's past time like it's America's sport whatever so it's that's the one

thing it's you spend how many hours sitting at a ball game eating peanuts whatever sunflower seeds and you have all the

kids come and they run around and so it's always i think ballparks do the best job of incorporating a lot of that

kid family type atmosphere than most i mean even here the bombers spent some

money and built that whole kids zone area over out at their stadium so um their venues are getting creative but

i do feel like ballparks are the most creative but i also think a lot of the ticket

sales stuff i mean besides the tom brady and of course we pretty much know that's why they've done the two-year you know season

tickets but um you know covid definitely hurt a lot of people and these music venues are doing

a much better job at trying to figure out how to make sure that their guests

or these fans have the opportunity to come and see without feeling like they've been well well and i think you know i mean

they had to get creative for social distancing um i know a lot of um

you know like musicians are doing like like VIP tickets before so that so what they're

doing is kind of being i remember now oh the yeah muscular and bloodline um but um

i always want to say muscle line not muscadine um yeah i realized after i googled um but i

think i think Jason eating is doing some of it but um you you basically purchase

you know a ticket to the show and then you can purchase the VIP tickets and not only is it like

somewhat like a meet and greet q a but they also you know play like an acoustic

set or um you know it's not your just typical like vip experience well you know like

where you just pay for a meet and greet where it's just you stand in line go get your picture and get your autograph and you're done like they're actually making

them VIP experiences um you know some venues are they're letting you come and watch sound check or you know

um but i also not only have to say that's great on the venue side but it's also

really nice to see the musicians connecting back with their fans like actually making the effort to do all that yeah and i mean i think you know

just i mean it's kind of like with covid like you know they weren't able to be at venues

and so um you know they did live streams on um things but um i think i don't even

know what it was i'd have to look but it was a venue in austin and

um they would live stream once a week from their venue and so they would have the artist just come to

like their bar wasn't open their venue wasn't open but they would have and they would basically sponsor

the musician and they would just come and so they could social distance it was just them in a guitar they were able to

reach you know the venue was able to pretend like they had a show and show what they had

and they did that once a week and they just had the artist come in and so are they free

well like i said yeah i mean they were they were streaming them on Facebook okay that's what i wanted yes for you if you had to like nope those were free and

they would do them once a week um that live music feel like yeah tonight yeah when they had it set up and um they i

think i think this one also was a bar but they would also like do like a a cocktail like they would make a

cocktail so like it was a place that like enjoyed making craft drinks and so

each week they would have that and of course it was sponsored by you know somebody um

but it allowed people to keep doing i know my stomach is making so many noises but

it allowed artists to keep playing who were you know obviously not able to do so during covet or at least have a way

to be able to continue practicing you know and yeah i mean in the the venues and the artists that are still able to

do things i mean obviously money-wise you know obviously a lot of people took

a hit but i know you mentioned wade and not but i mean he really did i mean

he started i mean he did a whole production with durian i don't dislike wade i just don't like

that song i know you do tanner doesn't like him but he loves that song which is really odd but whatever but i mean i did

but yeah I mean just artists in general like figured out a way but so did venues

and how to kind of because after you know after six months you're going except for Harry's I would like that

place to get their security and fire back up to fire code yeah good luck yeah

I yeah I went to a show there during covid with social distancing and

there is no such thing it wasn't not a harry potter yeah they paid somebody off somewhere all right

it was rough yeah yeah so anyway okay well music venues

ticketing we've touched them all thank you for joining us yeah thanks for enlightening us enlightening us on our

podcast next time I will be on the other side of the camera

oh gosh you've just made me want to go and see what music festivals yeah are coming

um this summer because I'm sure there's going to be plenty agreed I'm grateful for live music again

yeah I'm going broke and I don't care I'm gonna say all I'm gonna spend all of

my savings do kids still say yolo why is my stomach can you all hear this yes it's so bad

you can hear it too I'm so sorry everyone listening next time I'll make sure i eat breakfast

yikes sorry okay so yes festival with kids no kids uh

yeah either or yeah I ain't piggy I managed to go to south by southwest with me

I won't go to that I don't really like Austin I'm not a fan I miss the summer music stuff the free

concerts they used to do out at wolf pen they have started one there's one April 23rd started but they're only doing it

once a month right I don't know what they're doing but there is one April 23rd I just saw lake walker's doing every weekend yes

yeah lake waka's doing stuff again but um but yeah there there's unless I saw three bands on April 23rd

it's free okay well I keep trying to get um college station to bring back cowboy mouth because

they're like my favorite band that I've ever seen at wolf pen see we we

probably saw each other because yes yeah I saw them that one time that they came

yeah I was in college I guess I post on their Facebook all the time like they need to come back to college station

like any time they're still a band yeah oh follow them on Facebook they play all over Louisiana

um yeah so they should come back just go to Louisiana so far

we could all ride in a car together for 10 hours and you wanted to do the amazing race i

went to i went to Louisiana once for a concert okay if we can plan it on one of the

weekends the camera goes to his dad's we're already halfway there and then we can just ride back with him that's my

point that's my point it's not that far

uh yeah good times yeah okay well

maybe we'll end the season with them finally interviewing us

who are we going to nominate to do that what student are we going to nominate to do that Megan

Megan Megan I know all of them doobie all of them

it'd actually be kind of fun we could do it in the conference room and have just a like a staff podcast

have them all interview us do we have enough mics I'm sure we do I don't think we'd be able to coordinate all of their

schedules to all be here at the same time if we told them they got to be on a podcast and interview y'all no

I guarantee they'd find it they'd figure it out on a Friday probably or after finals

you already I mean you already said Sophia is going to still be here

I don't know I don't know when the last day for finals is before graduation on the 12th 13th 14th

so the 11th is the last day of finals we'll figure it out but we're going to

wrap the season up with finally doing that that sounds terrible yep for them

yeah okay I'm going to give one word answers maybe maybe you're going to be like

no yeah yes no terrible

pretend to be Sarah that's rude all right bye bye

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