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April 5, 2023

"You can't second guess how to live your life" - Dr. Ashley's Farewell

It is with great sadness that you join Sarah and TJ today, as they chat with Dr. Frank Ashley for the last time as Associate Dean of the Bush School. We're not saying it's the last last time he will ever be on...just under that title.

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Welcome to

 

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Coffee Talk.

 

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Coffee Talk is a podcast about event

related topics

 

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sprinkled with vivid ends from the comfort

of our amazing event facility,

 

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the Annenberg Presidential Conference

Center at Texas A&M University

 

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and the Bush School of Government

and Public Service.

 

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Cool. Yeah. Breathe.

 

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Each week we are here to share,

educate and enlighten

 

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you on what is going on in the events

industry today.

 

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Tomorrow. Yesterday.

 

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And way down in the future.

 

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Oh, yeah.

 

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Okay.

 

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Are we started. Yet?

 

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Coffee talk?

 

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Yeah. Oh, okay. Okay. Oh, yeah. Okay.

 

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Snaps, welcome.

 

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Welcome.

 

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There you go. Hi.

 

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Hi. All right. Hi.

 

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So the poetry slams, am i right?

 

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I really have to read all this.

 

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We are reading all of it

during all of it. No.

 

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Okay.

 

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Cause you're about to leave,

and most people don't go read on the web,

 

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so we're going to make them

listen to it. No.

 

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It's boring.

 

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It's not boring.

 

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Today,

 

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we're joined with Dr.

 

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Frank Ashley, the third,

 

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who is the executive associate dean

and senior professor at the Bush School

 

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of Government and Public Service at Texas

A&M University.

 

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Thank you for.

 

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Thank you.

 

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I'm enjoying my time here.

 

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He's just going to cut you off.

 

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Go straight to the question.

 

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He came to the bush school

from the college Board, where he was

 

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senior vice president of Membership

in Higher Education Engagement.

 

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As executive associate dean, Dr.

 

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Ashley oversees graduate education,

research activities, as well as the Chief

 

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Strategic Planning, Faculty Affairs,

Student Affairs, Program, Development,

 

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Diversity Assessment, Communications

and External Relations, student services

 

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and extended education programs

in the Bush School.

 

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That is a run on sentence

 

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We need to rewrite that one.

 

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Does Grant

just copy and paste, Thats on Grant?

 

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Okay.

 

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He also teaches the managing diversity

in public and nonprofit

 

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organizations course.

 

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Dr. Ashley earned his bachelor's

degree from Louisiana College

 

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and a master's and doctorate

from the University of Alabama.

 

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He began his academic career

as a science teacher and coach.

 

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His previous appointments

include faculty positions and service

 

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as dean of the College of Education

and Interim Provost, vice president

 

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for academic affairs

at Texas A&M University.

 

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Commerce as well as, director.

 

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And take a deep breath.

 

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That's alot to say

Undergraduate teachers.

 

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You can hyperventilate.

 

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And teacher education.

 

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Texas

A&M University's College of Education.

 

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I have always learned

it is the key to speaking.

 

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Whenever you say something

new, you take a deep breath

 

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and then you make a point and relax.

 

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And then you take you pause for a second.

 

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Yeah. And through the nose or mouth.

 

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There you go.

 

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TJ That's a

that's a great introduction.

 

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Thank you so much for now.

 

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I'm so glad

From 2007

we're not done yet.

 

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to 2010

im so glad to be here?

 

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Dr. Ashley served as vice chancellor

 

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for academic affairs

for the Texas A&M University System,

 

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where he served as chief academic officer

for the system

 

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and represented the system

at the state level at all academic issues.

 

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In 2010, he was named Vice Chancellor

for recruitment

 

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and diversity and chief of staff.

 

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In this position,

he collected and analyzed system

 

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data on diversity

and its system of universities

 

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and agencies in recruiting and retaining

diverse students, faculty and staff.

 

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Did you need to take a sip of water?

No, I'm good

 

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okay.

 

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I'm perfect.

 

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Former College Board trustee Dr.

 

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Ashley also has served on boards

and committees for numerous other

 

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organized nations,

including the Committee Foundation

 

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of the Brazos Valley.

 

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Chai G.

 

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Saint Joseph Health

 

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It’s CHI, CHI

 

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It's not.

 

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You don't have to say Chi or tea.

 

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Now, that's chai. Chai.

 

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chi.

 

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chi  is like your.

 

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Your inner peace. Your. Yeah.

 

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Your shockers. I do. Have chi.

 

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Got a lot of. It?

 

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I see it blown off his head.

 

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Yeah. Yeah.

 

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No, that's sweat from all these light

and the heat in this place.

 

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Geez, I feel like I'm in purgatory.

 

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Remember how we were talking

about funding earlier?

 

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Okay. The resources that we need.

 

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Yeah. Okay.

 

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T.J., are you going to finish

 

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Finish the North and North

American Society for Sports Management

 

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and the Comerce

Independent School District?

 

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He currently serves

as the chair of the Clinical Operations

 

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Board of St Luke's Health.

 

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He was also a member of the editorial

board of both the Journal of Applied

 

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and Athletic Research and Coaching

and the International Journal

 

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of Sports Management.

 

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I used to be important.

Your eyes just got so big

 

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I was just good.

I used to be so important.

 

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You still. Are. At one point in time.

 

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Now it says right here,

with all of the roles that Dr.

 

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Ashley has had, his most important is

being our number one guest on the podcast.

 

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That's true. That's true.

 

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So you're still important to us. Okay.

 

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Thank you.

 

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But I'm done talking.

 

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Do you need to  A break

right now.

 

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I was about to say.

 

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We regroup. Geez.

 

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Need a commercial or.

 

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Commercial. Commercial in there? Okay.

 

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Commercial. Commercial in there? Okay.

 

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It's always fun to be with you.

 

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All right.

 

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It's an adventure because you never know

what's going to happen.

 

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Absolutely. Which is really funny.

 

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When I sent the request to your assistant

and she was like, well,

 

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what does he need to prepare for?

 

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I was like, I have no idea.

 

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Just it's wherever he takes the conversation

thats right, she goes.

 

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They wouldn't tell me what

 

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they wanted you to talk about

I said because they can't tell me

 

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what to talk about because I will talk

about whatever I want to talk about.

 

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We just try to guide the conversation

and then it just goes where you.

 

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Just try to keep it. You try to guide it.

 

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She tries to keep it

between the rails that you know.

 

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no, she keeps it off the rails.

 

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She doesn't. I keep it on the rails

But with Dr. Ashley.

 

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He's right.

 

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It's more you two.

 

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Yeah. With everybody else. That's me.

 

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Yeah, that's fair. Okay.

 

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Lovely earrings.

 

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I like to ask you. Very colorful.

 

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I try it. Well,

I thought you would be in something.

 

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I really thought about it.

 

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But, you know,

I had a faculty affairs meeting today,

 

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and they had a breakfast in my honor,

so I couldn't wear my crazy stuff.

 

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I had a little bit of.

 

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That's how they all know,

you mean. No, no.

 

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Not for the new ones.

 

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I had to put my academic outfit on. Hmm.

 

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Those aren't the new ones

starch shirts.

 

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I mean, it's a nice shirt.

 

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Yeah. It's coral and blue.

 

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I can't wait to get rid of these

when I retire.

 

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Garage Sale at Dr. Ashley’s

Wear my fishing shirts

 

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And she was going to say all fishing shirts.

 

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Fishing Shirts

 

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That's very nice.

You know where to find you. Yeah.

 

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Either.

 

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Either

be fishing, golfing or playing tennis.

 

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You play tennis?

 

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Do I play tennis? Oh. I didn't know.

 

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was it you that was talking about pickleball one time.

 

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Yeah,

my team won the state championship twice.

 

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When's the last time you played?

 

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Since you had knee surgery.

 

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I played in the state tournament.

 

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State team tournament

back in January. Wow.

 

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But I've been hurting since then.

 

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Yeah, people even already.

 

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Is it that bad? Oh, my phone is ringing.

 

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your phone.

 

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You see, I did turn my off

 

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Did you notice I turned my phone?

 

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I did.

 

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It's in the bag

at the bottom of the stroller.

 

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And so it's.

 

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Yeah,

it's going to be hard to get to. Okay.

 

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So you just put them in the hallway.

 

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With the kid? Yeah.

 

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That's it. Okay. Sorry.

 

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With the kid. No, it should ring again.

 

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Okay, it shouldn't.

Unless Jeff calls again.

 

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It's a. Text message. No.

 

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So are we.

 

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Talking? Was you. You sent a text?

 

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Yeah.

 

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Jamie's to blame.

 

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Way to go Jamie.

 

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I assume they were on silence.

 

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You know, mine is. Is T.J, though. Sorry.

 

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Okay,

so you guys want to talk about today?

 

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Okay, so we have a short list of questions

because we didn’t want to have to many

 

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You really have questions?

 

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Well, you know, had,

to be prepared with something.

 

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Okay.

 

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All right.

 

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Other than the students.

 

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Mm hmm.

 

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What is one thing that has continually

drawn to the bush school.

 

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The students.

 

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Know as besides the students. Oh. Oh.

 

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Beside The students.

 

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The students who are walking

beside the students.

 

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No, no, no, no.

 

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Let me just be okay.

 

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Let me get serious for a second.

Wait a minute.

 

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Hang on. Hang on a second.

 

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Let me

I'm going to I'm going to chi myself.

 

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I'm a chi myself.

 

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Cha or chi Myself.

 

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I'm a chi myself.

 

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Okay.

 

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Honestly, it's the people here.

 

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It's really the people.

 

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I mean, like, you guys, you guys,

 

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you guys have one of the most stressful

jobs here in the bush school,

 

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because you got to deal

with a lot of people

 

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who I mean, they come in

with all these expectations.

 

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And if things aren't the way they like it.

 

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They can be pains in the in the rear.

 

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But you always have a smile on your face.

 

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You you know, you might go home

and drink a bunch of alcohol later, but

 

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but you always have a smile on your face.

 

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You're very professional.

 

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Who says we wait till we get to home?

 

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You know,

 

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it's just people like

you guys hanging out with people like you guys

 

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I mean, you.

 

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You you probably can make more money

doing something else,

 

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but you're still here because you.

 

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Because you like what you do.

 

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I think there are a lot of faculty

and staff members

 

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that could probably make more money

doing other things.

 

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I know I can make more money

doing other things, but.

 

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But you like what you do here,

 

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everyone sort of,

 

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you know, and there are a lot of people

who are around when

 

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when President Bush and Barbara

 

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Bush were alive and you saw how

how they were and everything.

 

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And you just want to

 

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you want to help continue that vision that

they started here with the Bush School.

 

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So it's the people, too.

 

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Yeah.

 

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So it's a student now.

 

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I think a lot of

 

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there are some people that, you know,

I could I'm not going to miss,

 

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but you guys arent,  you guys arent among

the people I'm not going to miss.

 

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He's only doing it

because it's on recording.

 

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That's fair.

 

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Well, do you ever do?

 

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miss us, you know where to find us.

Oh, yeah, I know, I know.

 

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You know.

 

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The door is always.

 

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I had this conversation

I think with Sarah. Mhm.

 

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The venue showcase. You'd be our greeter.

Yeah.

 

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To be a greeter to come in

and just volunteer every once in a while.

 

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Oh you have to pay me if you want to but,

but just be a greater because.

You think the dean would sign off on that?

 

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Share that office next to mine.

 

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No, I don't want an office.

 

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I want to know where I want

to come in every once and a while

 

00:11:00:08 - 00:11:03:05

Yeah, yeah. But now Sarah

Does he come in every once in a while?

 

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Sure.

 

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Sarah, did I do a good job as your Greeter?

You did. A

 

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great job before I could even talk to this

young lady who walked up to the table?

 

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I think you were in the banquet space.

 

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He's like, welcome,

welcome to the vendor show case.

 

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Why don't you check in here?

 

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We've got all the vendor

set up in the banquet space.

 

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There's in that in the dining room

and out here in the lobby,

 

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the auditoriums are

I didn't tell him anything.

 

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He just went. Off.

 

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It's you know.

 

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I, I did the same thing in the bush go I

sometimes I sit at the front desk

 

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and I answer the phones.

 

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I did.

 

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poor Mary

 

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I mean, I'm a she's somebody should answer

 

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She's at the point

she's at the point where I mean, she's

 

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no nobody can tell me that, you know,

so I just sit there and I go.

 

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Good morning, Bush School of Government,

Public service.

 

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This is Frank.

 

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May I help you, please?

 

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And then I just.

 

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Like if you have to talk to talk to Dr. Ashley and their like he's

not available.

 

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Yeah. Yeah.

 

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But I love doing that.

 

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I it's fun. I, you know, I, yeah.

 

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A perfect guy.

 

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I think the biggest compliment

I've received is throughout

 

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my whole career and I,

and I went back to see a bunch of guys

 

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I went to school

with, god over 40 years ago.

 

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And they're saying, Frank,

look at everything that you've achieved.

 

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You still, Frank,

that went to college here, that

 

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that crazy guy who was was in college

with us.

 

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And it's true. I just, you know,

 

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so what

get the big head, never get the big.

 

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never get the big head

 

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Can't take yourself too. Seriously now.

 

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You can't take it out of too serious

because your hats wont fit.

 

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If he had the big head,

 

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you got to keep letting that

strap your hands or feet and everything.

 

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Thank you.

 

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Could you imagine what a day is like

for Mary with the dean in the corner?

 

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Her then you got Brandon and Joe,

you know, Dr.

 

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Ashley coming from the back.

 

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And then however many times

Grant walks in and out.

 

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I would love to sit in her office

and just stay here.

 

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Just watch it

 

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gopro there

 

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I think we're going to have that.

 

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We're having a drawing

and where you could Mary for a day.

 

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She she would no she would

that probably give her a heart attack.

 

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It probably would be probably

because she was really nervous

 

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when I first started answering the phones.

 

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What's the worst that can happen

your second?

 

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You know. I know.

 

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But she didn't know what I'd say,

you know.

 

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Well,

I mean, honestly, anybody on this campus

 

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who knows you that happens

to call over there going to be like, okay.

 

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It's the parent, it's.

Yo, baby, what's up?

 

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What's up?

 

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Well, we have 41 place where you own

what you want.

 

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Who you wanna talk to, huh?

 

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Oh, no, man, can't do that.

 

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I ain't going. No, no. No, no.

 

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You leave a message.

 

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But he ain't talking to you right

now, Danny.

 

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Yeah, I wouldn't do a thing like that.

 

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I would use that, that, that radio voice.

 

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I think your customer service voice.

 

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Good morning.

 

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Bush school of government

and public service.

 

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Frank here.

 

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How may I help you.

 

00:14:00:16 - 00:14:01:12

we need him to train our student.

 

00:14:01:12 - 00:14:02:12

Workers there?

 

00:14:02:12 - 00:14:04:13

You know what needs to happen

before you leave there?

 

00:14:04:13 - 00:14:07:05

Hold music needs to be you singing.

 

00:14:07:05 - 00:14:09:14

They need to change that

because, like, well, I like.

 

00:14:09:21 - 00:14:11:09

I like the broccoli.

 

00:14:11:09 - 00:14:13:20

hold music.

Yeah, but it's on all the time.

 

00:14:13:23 - 00:14:16:09

You know,

how many times I have heard that i mean its Great.

 

00:14:16:09 - 00:14:18:00

You have, you have.

 

00:14:18:00 - 00:14:19:07

Because you're here.

 

00:14:19:07 - 00:14:19:11

Yeah.

 

00:14:19:12 - 00:14:22:13

But someone calling from Snook, Texas.

 

00:14:23:02 - 00:14:25:06

Someone calling from Snook, Texas.

 

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Imagine that call in the bush school

and they hear the broccoli go.

 

00:14:29:12 - 00:14:31:01

Hey, Mary, come here.

 

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This is the broccoli thing.

 

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They talked about George Bush

and broccoli.

 

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God, it's so funny.

 

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I go where it is.

 

00:14:39:10 - 00:14:41:10

Yeah, like I hang up.

 

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Let's call again.

 

00:14:43:00 - 00:14:45:01

Got okay not to offend.

 

00:14:45:01 - 00:14:47:13

from Snook Yeah, right.

 

00:14:47:13 - 00:14:52:07

or, Tunis.

 

00:14:52:07 - 00:14:54:12

Okay, I'm going take a sip of water.

 

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I got to do a little chi

 

00:14:59:01 - 00:15:00:21

chi moment.

 

00:15:00:21 - 00:15:02:07

Oh, my God.

 

00:15:02:10 - 00:15:04:15

If I'm going to be named this episode.

 

00:15:04:15 - 00:15:07:17

its chi or

 

00:15:07:17 - 00:15:08:21

Listen.

 

00:15:08:21 - 00:15:10:02

Haven't you heard that?

 

00:15:10:02 - 00:15:12:08

That's something I always wanted to do.

 

00:15:12:08 - 00:15:14:17

I always wanted to do that. tai chi

 

00:15:15:03 - 00:15:17:00

Yeah, yeah.

 

00:15:17:00 - 00:15:18:10

Slow movement.

 

00:15:18:10 - 00:15:20:10

Because I could go slow.

 

00:15:20:13 - 00:15:26:01

Cause I could go slow.

 

00:15:26:01 - 00:15:28:04

I'm so glad this was nice. You.

 

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You should come teach a class for.

 

00:15:29:22 - 00:15:32:03

No, I'm a little.

I want to learn how to do it.

 

00:15:32:03 - 00:15:34:17

Yeah, do it down here at the pond

for some help.

 

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That would be good.

 

00:15:37:10 - 00:15:39:06

tai chi at the pond

 

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You have to fix the retention walls.

 

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First you had through to the falling down.

 

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On your list

 

00:15:45:20 - 00:15:46:09

Yeah.

 

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That's on Brandons List

 

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Dr. Ashleys listed somewhere floating away.

 

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I wrote a song about that.

 

00:15:52:16 - 00:15:53:09

What?

 

00:15:53:17 - 00:15:56:15

Retention walls, you havent heard it

 

00:15:56:22 - 00:15:57:14

no

 

00:15:57:14 - 00:16:00:14

the retention walls are falling down.

falling down. falling down.

 

00:16:01:03 - 00:16:04:12

The retention walls are falling down

 

00:16:04:12 - 00:16:06:23

Oh, okay.

 

00:16:06:23 - 00:16:08:14

How do you get through a class?

 

00:16:08:14 - 00:16:09:06

I'm just curious.

 

00:16:09:06 - 00:16:11:14

When you're teaching,

how do you get through a class? Well.

 

00:16:11:20 - 00:16:15:15

Believe it or not, well, honest enough,

this is the honest to goodness truth.

 

00:16:15:23 - 00:16:18:21

I appoint one student in my class

 

00:16:19:12 - 00:16:24:01

and what what

their main responsibility is, is

 

00:16:24:01 - 00:16:29:12

when I start going off a certain place,

they raise their hand and say, Dr.

 

00:16:29:12 - 00:16:31:20

Ashley, back on the tracks.

 

00:16:33:02 - 00:16:35:07

I mean, and I do that every semester.

 

00:16:35:07 - 00:16:38:11

I point one student in

that's a responsibility.

 

00:16:38:22 - 00:16:40:16

That should be in the new faculty

training.

 

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And matter of fact,

there are some students that

 

00:16:43:20 - 00:16:45:23

they will scream at the other student.

 

00:16:45:23 - 00:16:47:06

He's not on the track,

 

00:16:47:06 - 00:16:50:06

get him back on the track,

because sometimes I just go, you know,

 

00:16:50:19 - 00:16:52:16

somebody says something

and I just, you know.

 

00:16:52:16 - 00:16:55:08

And I hear it and need to appoint

a full time staff member

 

00:16:55:21 - 00:16:57:22

for staff meetings for that first.

 

00:16:57:22 - 00:16:59:22

Yeah, for. Me, yeah.

 

00:16:59:22 - 00:17:04:22

We do better

when I lead them versus listening.

 

00:17:04:22 - 00:17:05:14

Okay.

 

00:17:05:17 - 00:17:09:10

So what's your favorite memory, experience

or event while you've been here?

 

00:17:10:04 - 00:17:11:12

You can take a drink.

 

00:17:11:12 - 00:17:13:07

It's okay.

 

00:17:13:07 - 00:17:14:17

The favorite.

 

00:17:14:22 - 00:17:17:10

Favorite memories. Well, I got Callie

 

00:17:19:03 - 00:17:19:21

one of my first.

 

00:17:19:21 - 00:17:22:03

First one was the first time

with the Kennebunkport

 

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and got to go to President Bush's house.

 

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That was a big one.

 

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Another big one was I mean,

 

00:17:29:18 - 00:17:35:13

just happened last summer

when my wife and I, Janice,

 

00:17:35:14 - 00:17:40:09

got a chance to land on the USS

 

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Bush aircraft carrier.

 

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We flew out of our plane

and landed on the aircraft carrier,

 

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stayed there for a couple of days

and were catapulted off the plane.

 

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I heard these things. The newsletters

that we get.

 

00:17:54:01 - 00:17:55:16

Don't even get started.

 

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Because like I would like

to see pictures of oh.

 

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oh I got,  And you want

you want pictures? You just have to follow him.

 

00:18:00:00 - 00:18:01:02

I got a picture.

 

00:18:01:02 - 00:18:01:22

I got.

 

00:18:02:03 - 00:18:02:15

You turned your.

 

00:18:02:15 - 00:18:02:22

Phone.

 

00:18:02:22 - 00:18:06:18

I know I could turn it on

and show you pictures, but it oh, it was

 

00:18:07:01 - 00:18:08:21

it was amazing.

 

00:18:08:21 - 00:18:13:22

We did that.

 

00:18:13:22 - 00:18:15:10

Those are probably the

 

00:18:15:10 - 00:18:19:11

the most amazing two things they had

of all the speakers that have come here.

 

00:18:19:18 - 00:18:22:16

I think one of my highlights

was Madeleine Albright

 

00:18:23:05 - 00:18:26:06

when she came,

you know, seeing somebody who

 

00:18:27:11 - 00:18:31:01

you saw on TV and I mean,

 

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and just sitting down eating dinner with,

is she just a regular person?

 

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And that's what I've learned

about all these the people that come here,

 

00:18:38:11 - 00:18:40:02

most of them are just regular people.

 

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They just people

that are committed to service.

 

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So that's why I probably can't

 

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tell you how many people have been here,

because I don't pay that much attention.

 

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Because. It's not.

 

00:18:53:17 - 00:18:55:08

Yeah. Yeah, yeah.

 

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Now, now you every once in a while

you get the high maintenance people

 

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and you remember those.

 

00:19:01:09 - 00:19:02:19

Yes, yeah, yeah.

 

00:19:02:19 - 00:19:04:06

You remember those

 

00:19:04:11 - 00:19:06:01

You remember the high maintenance people?

 

00:19:06:01 - 00:19:06:18

I do.

 

00:19:06:18 - 00:19:09:22

You, as I put it, you fondly remember

 

00:19:09:22 - 00:19:13:01

them.

 

00:19:13:01 - 00:19:15:00

That's nice. Yeah. Okay, so there is.

 

00:19:15:00 - 00:19:17:00

Yeah. There they're the reasons

I have a punching bag in my office.

 

00:19:18:05 - 00:19:21:01

Is that there is a partly.

 

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It's just change the pictures on the back.

 

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She wouldn't let us put pictures on it.

 

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I didn't even know y'all are buying it.

 

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So yeah.

 

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And we were like, yeah.

And we can print out pictures.

 

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Well i didnt want to waste trees

 

00:19:32:18 - 00:19:33:04

Okay.

 

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I figured I could envision it.

 

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Okay,

 

00:19:38:01 - 00:19:38:23

excellent. Fair.

 

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Well, yes,

I will need to see pictures of.

 

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Next. Right.

 

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Okay. I'm just you.

 

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Know, this is this is your question.

 

00:19:45:20 - 00:19:48:04

You can ask. Do you want it? It was

you were so proud of it.

 

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I'm not proud of it.

I just had a question.

 

00:19:50:20 - 00:19:52:19

Well, I mean, I can read questions.

 

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You should have done double,

double spaced.

 

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Yes, you should have done it

 

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you could have edited it.

For visitors, staff,

clients, future clients, vendors, etc..

 

00:20:02:20 - 00:20:08:07

What is one thing that you would tell them

about our facility?

 

00:20:08:07 - 00:20:10:23

First of all, I, I would

 

00:20:13:10 - 00:20:14:05

I don't

 

00:20:14:06 - 00:20:17:13

think people

appreciate the things that we have here.

 

00:20:17:23 - 00:20:19:23

I mean, this is a world class facility.

 

00:20:19:23 - 00:20:22:08

I mean, it really is.

 

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Would you agree that ice cream socials

do not fall in that category?

 

00:20:26:20 - 00:20:28:16

I'm not going there.

 

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I went there.

 

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I'm not going there.

 

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But yes,

but seriously, it's a world class facility

 

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and it's one of those things where,

 

00:20:39:17 - 00:20:41:21

you know, it's unlike when I was here

 

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as a as

 

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before I became vice chancellor

when I left to go to another university,

 

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I mean, I moved from College Station

for three years.

 

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And there are a lot of things that I took

for granted here

 

00:20:58:16 - 00:21:02:02

that when I got there, it was like, wow.

 

00:21:02:02 - 00:21:04:13

So I couldn't wait to move back

and then come back.

 

00:21:04:17 - 00:21:06:22

And I think that's

what this place right here is.

 

00:21:08:04 - 00:21:08:22

I don't know how much

 

00:21:08:22 - 00:21:13:07

people appreciate it.

 

00:21:13:07 - 00:21:14:12

I think

 

00:21:15:10 - 00:21:18:07

I like the idea. It's

 

00:21:18:07 - 00:21:21:03

we're at Texas A&M,

but we're sort of away from Texas A&M

 

00:21:21:05 - 00:21:23:09

and now we're out of the hustle

and bustle.

 

00:21:23:09 - 00:21:26:10

It's like we're going on a retreat over

to West Campus,

 

00:21:26:17 - 00:21:30:03

over to the PCC and everything.

 

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You know, I was telling somebody, matter  fact

we're talking about a certain event

 

00:21:36:11 - 00:21:38:21

and they're talking about coming over here

for the event.

 

00:21:40:00 - 00:21:42:00

And I said, You know

 

00:21:42:17 - 00:21:45:09

what I'd I'd like to do for an event.

 

00:21:45:19 - 00:21:50:23

You know, if I was doing an event,

it's come in, lecture, dinner or whatever

 

00:21:51:04 - 00:21:55:01

and then tell people,

okay, you've got about 45 minutes,

 

00:21:55:01 - 00:21:57:21

get in your groups

and just go walk around the grounds.

 

00:21:57:21 - 00:21:58:08

Yeah.

 

00:21:58:09 - 00:22:01:03

And think about reflect on what

 

00:22:01:03 - 00:22:04:10

we just talked about and speak about

because you don't have to stay inside.

 

00:22:04:17 - 00:22:08:13

I mean, you can go outside,

you can go ride the horses, you know,

 

00:22:08:16 - 00:22:09:19

no, you can't really do that.

 

00:22:10:21 - 00:22:13:08

You know, people cannot ride the horses.

 

00:22:13:11 - 00:22:15:23

Has anyone tried that?

Yes

 

00:22:15:23 - 00:22:21:22

So after the World Series, there was a

family walking around in their Astros gear

 

00:22:22:10 - 00:22:26:12

and they got up on the

the child was sitting on the horses.

 

00:22:26:12 - 00:22:28:22

The mom was standing between them,

the oldest son.

 

00:22:28:23 - 00:22:29:18

Are you serious?

 

00:22:29:18 - 00:22:29:22

Yeah.

 

00:22:29:22 - 00:22:32:20

I had to walk outside

and tell them to get down. Like why?

 

00:22:32:20 - 00:22:35:11

What made them think they could do that?

I don't. Know.

 

00:22:35:14 - 00:22:38:08

I hope they're not watching this part

right here. Probably not.

 

00:22:38:10 - 00:22:40:11

Because what would make

you think you could do that?

 

00:22:40:12 - 00:22:41:18

People do it all the time.

 

00:22:41:18 - 00:22:42:13

Lots of sorority

 

00:22:42:13 - 00:22:45:03

and fraternity groups have been out here

taking photos, doing the same thing.

 

00:22:45:20 - 00:22:47:05

Yeah, it's over the years,

 

00:22:47:05 - 00:22:50:23

I've had to tell several people

to get down and leave

 

00:22:50:23 - 00:22:51:22

My most favorite thing to do

 

00:22:51:22 - 00:22:54:07

Yes, T.J.

does like. That. I could do that.

 

00:22:55:07 - 00:22:57:09

Maybe hire me to do that.

 

00:22:57:09 - 00:22:58:11

Extra security.

 

00:22:58:11 - 00:22:59:10

I could get a bouncer.

 

00:22:59:10 - 00:23:01:13

I could be the PCC bouncer.

 

00:23:02:06 - 00:23:04:23

That to me, I give our little tank top.

 

00:23:04:23 - 00:23:05:15

Shirt

 

00:23:06:08 - 00:23:07:07

Everything

 

00:23:08:02 - 00:23:09:14

Whats so funny about.

 

00:23:09:16 - 00:23:10:15

Whats so funny about it

 

00:23:10:15 - 00:23:12:18

Who plays

tennis in better shape than I am?

 

00:23:12:18 - 00:23:14:13

Yeah. Yeah.

 

00:23:14:13 - 00:23:16:21

He recovered much better

from his knee surgery than I do.

 

00:23:18:15 - 00:23:19:15

he’s a lot more active.

 

00:23:19:15 - 00:23:21:22

He is and he followed

through with physical therapy. I quit.

 

00:23:22:11 - 00:23:24:11

It's all the rehab.

 

00:23:24:11 - 00:23:26:07

No, I finished when I was good.

 

00:23:26:07 - 00:23:28:13

Yeah, I just quit. Yeah. Mm.

 

00:23:28:13 - 00:23:30:19

You decided when you were done.

 

00:23:30:19 - 00:23:32:04

no,  my doctor did.

 

00:23:32:04 - 00:23:33:15

The physical therapist did not.

 

00:23:33:15 - 00:23:35:23

But the doctor told me he was like,

you're good, so.

 

00:23:36:02 - 00:23:38:16

Now you got to do it.

The physical therapist says, If.

 

00:23:38:16 - 00:23:40:15

I do what the physical therapist says, Dr.

 

00:23:40:15 - 00:23:42:06

Ashley, I would be broke

 

00:23:42:06 - 00:23:45:12

because they want you to come in

so many sessions that you keep paying

 

00:23:45:13 - 00:23:46:00

Yeah.

 

00:23:46:04 - 00:23:47:18

Yeah, I know.

 

00:23:47:18 - 00:23:50:04

I mean, he was great,

and I got everything out of it.

 

00:23:50:04 - 00:23:52:06

I need it. So I wrote that song about you.

 

00:23:54:01 - 00:23:57:00

Which song?

 

00:23:57:00 - 00:23:59:14

I wrote that song. No matter.

 

00:23:59:21 - 00:24:01:06

What song.

 

00:24:01:09 - 00:24:02:02

 sing it.

 

00:24:02:02 - 00:24:03:15

Yeah, I know the song

 

00:24:04:01 - 00:24:06:11

day I got to go to rehab.

 

00:24:06:11 - 00:24:08:18

I say, No, no, no.

 

00:24:09:06 - 00:24:10:04

I was just playing.

 

00:24:10:04 - 00:24:14:03

That's where you were going with that?

 

00:24:14:03 - 00:24:17:02

I'm sorry, folks. I just get Carry.

 

00:24:17:02 - 00:24:19:09

You got to help me stay.

 

00:24:19:09 - 00:24:20:02

I'm okay with. That.

 

00:24:20:02 - 00:24:21:19

Help me stay between the rails

 

00:24:21:19 - 00:24:23:18

I think I like you. Be in you. Yeah.

 

00:24:23:18 - 00:24:26:06

And they're about to make a movie about her life

say, you gotta go rehab.

 

00:24:26:22 - 00:24:29:13

Sarah. Say, no, no, no.

 

00:24:29:18 - 00:24:30:18

I say no a lot.

 

00:24:30:18 - 00:24:33:03

Dr. Ashley, today is my day off.

 

00:24:33:03 - 00:24:35:06

I chose to come in

because I didn't want to miss this.

 

00:24:35:06 - 00:24:37:14

I'm not doing anything. Oh, you know.

 

00:24:38:05 - 00:24:39:08

You okay?

 

00:24:39:08 - 00:24:43:09

No. Okay.

 

00:24:43:09 - 00:24:45:12

I feel bad

that you can make anything better.

 

00:24:45:12 - 00:24:48:14

on your day off

 

00:24:48:14 - 00:24:50:10

Well, she did, you know.

 

00:24:50:10 - 00:24:52:17

At least go hang out at Wal-Mart. Target.

You know.

 

00:24:53:02 - 00:24:55:21

She's leaving town when we're done. Okay.

 

00:24:56:05 - 00:24:58:13

Where are you going?

 

00:24:58:13 - 00:25:01:18

To, uh. Cedar Creek Lake. Oh,

 

00:25:02:20 - 00:25:05:06

you go fishing or just now?

 

00:25:05:06 - 00:25:06:17

She is not going fishing.

 

00:25:06:17 - 00:25:10:15

shes going to use the swing on the dock, so

 

00:25:10:20 - 00:25:13:21

I might go outside.

 

00:25:13:21 - 00:25:16:05

I might go out. Okay.

 

00:25:16:05 - 00:25:17:16

Okay, okay. Back on point.

 

00:25:17:16 - 00:25:20:05

So the reason that we're all here

 

00:25:23:00 - 00:25:24:21

now that everyone knows you're retiring.

 

00:25:24:21 - 00:25:25:14

Yeah.

 

00:25:26:10 - 00:25:27:19

What's next?

 

00:25:27:20 - 00:25:28:08

What's next?

 

00:25:28:08 - 00:25:30:10

Well, what? What I tell everyone,

 

00:25:31:16 - 00:25:35:06

this is my third time retiring,

and I'm a get it right this time.

 

00:25:35:19 - 00:25:36:16

Third time's a. Charm.

 

00:25:36:16 - 00:25:37:23

I'm gonna get it right this time

 

00:25:37:23 - 00:25:41:13

she one I even want to take this job

only told Mark I'd be here three years.

 

00:25:41:21 - 00:25:43:14

Well, he only said he'd be here one term.

 

00:25:43:14 - 00:25:44:14

why yeah

 

00:25:44:14 - 00:25:46:16

So we both lied.

 

00:25:48:06 - 00:25:49:23

But I mean, you get suck.

 

00:25:49:23 - 00:25:54:04

You get so sucked into this place,

you know, and just but you know,

 

00:25:55:13 - 00:25:58:15

I did seven years and I

 

00:25:58:17 - 00:26:04:07

I've been in administration over 25 years,

upper administration over 25 years.

 

00:26:04:20 - 00:26:10:02

And what I've told everyone is from

 

00:26:11:04 - 00:26:13:08

the last day of August

 

00:26:13:08 - 00:26:15:10

until the last day of December,

 

00:26:15:15 - 00:26:17:15

I'm going to do nothing.

 

00:26:18:12 - 00:26:21:13

I'm going to play golf,

you know, play tennis.

 

00:26:22:01 - 00:26:24:18

I'm going to go fishing

and we're going to travel.

 

00:26:25:21 - 00:26:29:01

And that's that that's about it.

Has your wife retired yet?

 

00:26:29:02 - 00:26:30:13

You. Yeah.

 

00:26:30:13 - 00:26:32:12

And then say, what would she tell you

you're going to do?

 

00:26:32:12 - 00:26:33:19

Yeah. Yeah.

 

00:26:33:19 - 00:26:37:04

Well travel

well she really wants to travel.

 

00:26:37:04 - 00:26:39:03

We're, we're big time tennis fans.

 

00:26:39:03 - 00:26:42:16

We want to travel around the country,

watch tennis matches all over the country.

 

00:26:42:17 - 00:26:44:06

She loves play golf.

 

00:26:44:06 - 00:26:46:22

Jill, we're going to go play golf courses

all over the place.

 

00:26:46:22 - 00:26:49:11

Probably buy a little travel trailer.

 

00:26:51:02 - 00:26:53:18

if anybody out there has one for sale,

let me know

 

00:26:54:23 - 00:26:57:04

because we're looking

for a little travel trailer

 

00:26:58:22 - 00:26:59:12

we don't want.

 

00:26:59:12 - 00:27:01:10

When you pull behind you,

we want one side.

 

00:27:01:10 - 00:27:02:22

You want a fifth wheel or like an RV.

 

00:27:02:22 - 00:27:05:01

Now we want a little RV.

 

00:27:05:01 - 00:27:08:11

So if anyone out there has anything,

just let us know.

 

00:27:08:20 - 00:27:12:00

You know, I've given a lot of service

 

00:27:12:00 - 00:27:15:23

to this university, so

I figured that you can cut me a good deal.

 

00:27:15:23 - 00:27:18:16

Okay, I'm not supposed to say that I'm.

 

00:27:19:00 - 00:27:20:07

Yeah, okay.

 

00:27:20:07 - 00:27:21:09

Yeah. Okay.

 

00:27:21:09 - 00:27:22:21

Well, when you purchase that,

you won't be part of A&M

 

00:27:22:21 - 00:27:27:11

And, and so only for is true, but

that's what I want to do now come January.

 

00:27:27:11 - 00:27:31:13

I mean, I've got a lot of offers to do,

a lot of things to do, consulting.

 

00:27:31:13 - 00:27:34:12

I do a lot of speeches, public speaking.

 

00:27:34:18 - 00:27:37:01

I told Mary,

you should be a motivational speaker.

 

00:27:37:02 - 00:27:40:09

That's you know, I used

I used to get paid a lot of money

 

00:27:40:12 - 00:27:43:19

to be a motivational speaker

before I took my jobs,

 

00:27:44:05 - 00:27:49:10

because once I once I worked

for the system, once I worked

 

00:27:49:10 - 00:27:53:19

for the College Board, I couldn't get paid

because I was just in line.

 

00:27:53:19 - 00:27:57:04

Were you being invited

because you're Frank Ashley or were you

 

00:27:57:04 - 00:28:01:00

be invited because you were a senior vice

president or an executive?

 

00:28:01:00 - 00:28:03:05

So because you're Frank Ashley, well.

 

00:28:03:18 - 00:28:04:07

Then he wouldn't get.

 

00:28:04:07 - 00:28:07:03

Paid or organizations

didn't see it that way.

 

00:28:07:03 - 00:28:09:05

They said, Well,

but you wouldn't be invited.

 

00:28:09:05 - 00:28:09:19

If so.

 

00:28:09:19 - 00:28:13:10

Yeah, I can't get paid

so I can get paid again.

 

00:28:13:14 - 00:28:16:22

And I, I'm working on a website,

matter of fact,

 

00:28:17:12 - 00:28:20:04

frankbashleyIII.com

 

00:28:21:14 - 00:28:22:18

take a look at the website.

 

00:28:22:18 - 00:28:23:20

I think it is.

 

00:28:23:20 - 00:28:26:04

I think that's what it is.

 

00:28:26:04 - 00:28:27:22

Did you set it up yourself?

 

00:28:27:22 - 00:28:30:03

No, I paid someone to set it up for me.

 

00:28:30:03 - 00:28:32:09

It's good, but it's a it's a nice.

 

00:28:32:09 - 00:28:33:01

Okay.

 

00:28:33:01 - 00:28:36:01

I see some people. Right now choosing it.

 

00:28:36:01 - 00:28:37:02

All right. Thank you.

 

00:28:37:02 - 00:28:39:23

Frank B Ashley that dot, dot, dot com.

 

00:28:41:12 - 00:28:43:02

But that's my website

 

00:28:43:02 - 00:28:46:11

and I need to do

I probably need to update it

 

00:28:46:11 - 00:28:49:16

because I got to my build it

before I decided to retire.

 

00:28:51:12 - 00:28:55:13

But, you know, motivational speaking

and travel, those are the biggest two.

 

00:28:55:13 - 00:28:57:15

We we really love tennis.

 

00:28:57:15 - 00:28:59:04

And we used to go to the U.S. Open.

 

00:28:59:04 - 00:29:01:07

We want to go to all the major

tennis tournaments.

 

00:29:01:07 - 00:29:02:18

We'd like to go to Wimbledon,

 

00:29:02:18 - 00:29:06:13

the French Open, the Italian Open,

and also the Australian Open.

 

00:29:07:01 - 00:29:10:18

Wow, that

 

00:29:10:18 - 00:29:13:18

would be fun.

 

00:29:13:18 - 00:29:14:16

Is it there?

 

00:29:15:21 - 00:29:16:13

Oh, it's there.

 

00:29:16:13 - 00:29:17:01

Good.

 

00:29:17:01 - 00:29:17:18

You remember it?

 

00:29:17:18 - 00:29:18:22

Yeah. It's.

 

00:29:18:22 - 00:29:23:07

It's Frank Ashley

 

00:29:23:07 - 00:29:25:08

I I I Okay,

 

00:29:25:08 - 00:29:28:06

frankashleyIII.com

 

00:29:28:13 - 00:29:29:22

no B? No B

what does the B stand for?

 

00:29:29:22 - 00:29:32:23

Bernard?

 

00:29:32:23 - 00:29:35:05

Bernard. Not Bernard. Bernard.

 

00:29:36:00 - 00:29:37:01

All right.

 

00:29:37:07 - 00:29:37:21

Okay.

 

00:29:37:21 - 00:29:39:06

Well, I'm excited for you.

 

00:29:39:06 - 00:29:40:21

Well, I'm excited, too.

 

00:29:40:21 - 00:29:44:05

You know, I mean, that apprehension

and everything because you don't,

 

00:29:44:07 - 00:29:46:11

you know, you don't know

if you're going to get bored

 

00:29:47:07 - 00:29:51:20

because I'm I'm up at 5:00 every morning.

 

00:29:51:20 - 00:29:53:06

Your up at 5:00 morning.

 

00:29:53:06 - 00:29:55:11

They'll meet Tanner at the course,

you guys and hit the range early.

 

00:29:56:00 - 00:29:58:06

Yeah you can text me I'll be I'm awake.

 

00:29:58:17 - 00:29:59:16

So am I

 

00:29:59:19 - 00:30:00:11

Like.

 

00:30:00:16 - 00:30:02:03

But I just know.

 

00:30:02:03 - 00:30:04:03

We'll go have breakfast.

I'm going to start sleeping.

 

00:30:04:15 - 00:30:05:10

you know

 

00:30:05:12 - 00:30:10:12

I mean sleep until 7:00 is big for me,

so I mean, I might.

 

00:30:10:12 - 00:30:12:18

That was. Nice. Yeah. 715.

 

00:30:14:12 - 00:30:15:12

dont get too crazy there

 

00:30:15:12 - 00:30:17:23

There. Yeah.

 

00:30:19:00 - 00:30:21:00

I don't imagine

you'll be slowing down any time.

 

00:30:21:09 - 00:30:22:14

Not any time soon.

 

00:30:22:14 - 00:30:24:16

I just you know,

 

00:30:25:02 - 00:30:28:04

it's going to be interesting

because I've always done something.

 

00:30:28:04 - 00:30:29:18

That's the thing about it.

 

00:30:29:18 - 00:30:32:02

I've never not done anything.

 

00:30:32:12 - 00:30:34:12

You go around me like,

welcome to my TED Talk.

 

00:30:34:19 - 00:30:35:20

Yeah. Yeah.

 

00:30:35:20 - 00:30:38:07

So are you guys going to stay like, house

here?

 

00:30:38:07 - 00:30:38:22

Are you guys going to move?

 

00:30:38:22 - 00:30:42:12

Believe it or not, we have put a bid down

 

00:30:42:12 - 00:30:45:15

and the bid has been accepted

 

00:30:45:15 - 00:30:49:02

on a house Navasota,  Texas.

 

00:30:49:20 - 00:30:52:12

The historic district.

No, it's on pecan.

 

00:30:52:14 - 00:30:53:21

Yeah, it's pecan. On the golf course.

 

00:30:53:21 - 00:30:56:01

It's like, yeah, it's on the golf.

 

00:30:56:02 - 00:30:58:23

It's on the golf Course.

 

00:30:58:23 - 00:31:01:20

Well I get historic district.

 

00:31:02:06 - 00:31:04:04

They have all kinds of pretty houses

down there.

 

00:31:04:04 - 00:31:09:15

It just shows that she knows me

better than you do.

 

00:31:09:15 - 00:31:10:11

I like

 

00:31:10:11 - 00:31:12:13

Navasota’s historic district. It's it's neat.

 

00:31:12:18 - 00:31:13:22

It's really neat.

 

00:31:13:22 - 00:31:16:02

But it's, you know, now good.

 

00:31:16:02 - 00:31:17:21

Luck with all that construction down

there.

 

00:31:17:21 - 00:31:19:17

It's not far from here.

 

00:31:19:17 - 00:31:22:00

Plus, it's small town and everything.

 

00:31:22:00 - 00:31:23:05

Plus, it's on the golf course.

 

00:31:24:15 - 00:31:28:02

So. So, do you have your own golf cart

already or not yet?

 

00:31:28:15 - 00:31:30:21

We're going get the house first.

 

00:31:31:00 - 00:31:31:22

And that's the thing about it.

 

00:31:31:22 - 00:31:33:19

We got to sell the house we have here.

 

00:31:33:19 - 00:31:37:17

That's that's the pain,

because we have a huge house here

 

00:31:38:00 - 00:31:40:04

and we're buying a small house there.

 

00:31:41:08 - 00:31:44:03

So it's time to time

to get rid of a whole bunch of stuff.

 

00:31:44:03 - 00:31:46:00

Yeah. Downsize.

 

00:31:46:00 - 00:31:48:09

I mean, how are you going

to fit everything in an RV? I don't know.

 

00:31:48:22 - 00:31:51:14

In fact, if anybody needs a piano,

let me know I have a piano.

 

00:31:51:14 - 00:31:52:02

Oh, my God.

 

00:31:52:02 - 00:31:53:15

Do not let Jeff hear this.

 

00:31:53:15 - 00:31:54:16

Didn't you guys already?

 

00:31:54:16 - 00:31:56:01

I thought, you got one.

NO

 

00:31:56:09 - 00:31:58:04

Oh, yeah.

You told him? No. You need a piano?

 

00:31:58:04 - 00:31:59:11

No, Jeff wants a piano.

 

00:31:59:11 - 00:32:02:11

Oh. Hey, Jeff, if you're listening.

 

00:32:02:13 - 00:32:04:23

Where's he going to put it? I don't. Know.

 

00:32:04:23 - 00:32:07:17

It's not. Yeah, if you're listening.

 

00:32:07:19 - 00:32:08:19

But just.

 

00:32:08:19 - 00:32:09:23

He would put it in storage.

 

00:32:09:23 - 00:32:11:12

So when we build a house,

we would have a piano.

 

00:32:11:12 - 00:32:15:07

Yeah, well, he has to actually put

foundation down and start that process.

 

00:32:15:07 - 00:32:18:03

Jeff,

if you. Listen three years. I have a piano

 

00:32:19:11 - 00:32:19:16

in it.

 

00:32:19:16 - 00:32:21:04

Keep it free.

 

00:32:21:04 - 00:32:23:12

You should donate to one of the local

theater companies.

 

00:32:23:12 - 00:32:24:16

You could donate it to us.

 

00:32:24:16 - 00:32:25:12

We have pianos.

 

00:32:25:12 - 00:32:26:17

No, I don't want any more.

 

00:32:26:17 - 00:32:29:05

They don't get used enough as it is.

 

00:32:30:00 - 00:32:31:08

Piano signed by Dr.

 

00:32:31:08 - 00:32:32:09

Ashley.

 

00:32:32:09 - 00:32:33:17

But you should.

 

00:32:33:17 - 00:32:36:03

You have no space. You should.

 

00:32:36:17 - 00:32:37:23

You should

you need a piano.

 

00:32:37:23 - 00:32:38:22

She wants a. Piano.

 

00:32:38:22 - 00:32:39:23

You want a Piano?

 

00:32:39:23 - 00:32:42:05

I wanted a piano,

but I don't have room for.

 

00:32:42:05 - 00:32:43:10

How big is it?

 

00:32:43:10 - 00:32:44:20

It's upright.

 

00:32:44:20 - 00:32:47:03

Yeah. See? Oh, God, Jeff would love that.

 

00:32:47:03 - 00:32:50:15

I mean, I'll fit right through right

there.

 

00:32:50:15 - 00:32:53:18

Just tall.

 

00:32:53:18 - 00:32:55:03

No, it won't.

 

00:32:55:18 - 00:32:56:14

What are you gonna do with it?

 

00:32:56:14 - 00:32:58:16

How often do you play your keyboard?

 

00:32:58:16 - 00:33:00:20

Don't worry. Don't. Don't stop it.

 

00:33:01:02 - 00:33:02:20

Hey, she's not even here today.

 

00:33:02:20 - 00:33:04:22

She apparently she is. She's not working.

 

00:33:04:22 - 00:33:05:12

She's not work.

 

00:33:05:12 - 00:33:08:09

She sent text messages,

disrupting our podcast.

 

00:33:08:10 - 00:33:08:19

Okay.

 

00:33:09:21 - 00:33:10:18

Okay.

 

00:33:11:00 - 00:33:13:19

No seriously, you should be donating

to one of the local theaters now.

 

00:33:14:16 - 00:33:16:04

Or Jamie, you

 

00:33:17:05 - 00:33:19:08

turn your spare room into the music room

 

00:33:19:08 - 00:33:22:03

and then your mom can sleep in her

trailer.

 

00:33:22:03 - 00:33:24:01

Paxton can sleep on the piano.

 

00:33:24:01 - 00:33:27:14

He doesn't sleep in the guest room

anywhere,

 

00:33:27:17 - 00:33:28:08

my child.

 

00:33:28:08 - 00:33:30:16

Well, that's going to be a killer estate

sale that you're going to have.

 

00:33:31:20 - 00:33:33:14

No, no, no, no.

 

00:33:33:14 - 00:33:35:16

We were going to do an estate sale,

 

00:33:36:06 - 00:33:39:03

and I told Janice we're going to donate it

away.

 

00:33:39:10 - 00:33:41:21

I took two truckloads of stuff

 

00:33:42:07 - 00:33:44:16

down to the mission

 

00:33:45:00 - 00:33:47:23

two weeks ago because she wanted to have

a big garage sale.

 

00:33:47:23 - 00:33:51:20

I said, No we're not going to have a garage,

so we just didn't give it away.

 

00:33:51:20 - 00:33:53:01

We talked about that too,

 

00:33:53:01 - 00:33:56:02

because we're in the process of packing

and about to move.

 

00:33:56:07 - 00:33:58:19

And Tanner told me yesterday he was like,

We should probably

 

00:33:59:02 - 00:33:59:23

maybe we should try sell some.

 

00:33:59:23 - 00:34:00:16

This is like, no,

 

00:34:00:16 - 00:34:02:21

we can do a garage sale,

but we can just put a sign that says free.

 

00:34:03:03 - 00:34:05:04

Yeah. I’m not mess with that.

 

00:34:05:22 - 00:34:09:03

Plus it's just

you had a sticker and I just.

 

00:34:09:14 - 00:34:09:21

Yeah.

 

00:34:09:21 - 00:34:12:04

Plus I don't want to haggle with people

and everything.

 

00:34:12:05 - 00:34:15:02

That's I'm saying it's going to be like,

yes, whatever.

 

00:34:15:02 - 00:34:17:00

Price Yes, yeah. Yes.

 

00:34:17:00 - 00:34:18:09

Penny Awesome. Take it.

 

00:34:20:01 - 00:34:21:07

Yeah, you did that one time.

 

00:34:21:07 - 00:34:24:14

It was best offer yet,

but she really didn't go with best offer.

 

00:34:24:14 - 00:34:26:10

She just took the offer. Yes.

 

00:34:26:10 - 00:34:27:16

I was just like just.

 

00:34:27:16 - 00:34:30:12

Yeah, just take it.

 

00:34:30:12 - 00:34:31:04

Yeah.

 

00:34:31:20 - 00:34:34:01

So where are the where

where's your daughter at now?

 

00:34:34:03 - 00:34:36:10

Okay. My daughter's still in Tucson.

 

00:34:36:12 - 00:34:39:21

That's my she's my youngest

and my son's here in college Station.

 

00:34:39:21 - 00:34:42:08

They should still

and he works in Navasota,

 

00:34:43:08 - 00:34:45:01

but he lives in College Station.

 

00:34:45:01 - 00:34:48:09

he's

looking at moving to San Antonio.

 

00:34:48:18 - 00:34:49:07

Don't.

 

00:34:49:07 - 00:34:51:01

And he's going. Dont.

 

00:34:51:01 - 00:34:53:05

And he's gone

 

00:34:53:15 - 00:34:54:23

because he can work at a distance.

 

00:34:54:23 - 00:34:57:04

And every once in a while he has a meeting here.

 

00:34:57:04 - 00:34:57:17

He goes thats

 

00:34:57:17 - 00:35:00:07

Perfect. I could come live with you all

when I have to be at work.

 

00:35:00:07 - 00:35:02:02

And I'm like,

Yeah, well, charge your rent.

 

00:35:04:01 - 00:35:05:15

And like, what are the hotels charging?

 

00:35:05:15 - 00:35:08:10

And whatever charge you get per diem,

 

00:35:09:10 - 00:35:12:05

come going to Dad for my golf.

 

00:35:12:07 - 00:35:14:05

So why does he want to go to San Antonio?

 

00:35:14:05 - 00:35:16:16

He's got some buddies

that live over there,

 

00:35:16:16 - 00:35:18:22

so he's thinking about moving there.

 

00:35:19:01 - 00:35:20:17

It's definitely what it used to be.

 

00:35:20:17 - 00:35:22:02

No, it's not.

 

00:35:22:11 - 00:35:24:19

The roller

derby team is really good, though.

 

00:35:24:19 - 00:35:26:05

Now, that was it. Those four questions.

 

00:35:26:05 - 00:35:26:18

That's it.

 

00:35:26:18 - 00:35:27:11

Yeah, we have just.

 

00:35:27:11 - 00:35:29:19

Yeah, we kept it simple. Wow.

 

00:35:30:03 - 00:35:32:09

We weren't sure how far off the tracks

we were going to go. Yeah.

 

00:35:32:17 - 00:35:34:05

We didn't go far off the track.

 

00:35:34:05 - 00:35:36:00

Or, you know

 

00:35:36:12 - 00:35:38:14

how busy you were and if you

were going to be in a hurry?

 

00:35:38:14 - 00:35:39:20

No, I.

 

00:35:39:20 - 00:35:42:07

Thought we started staying on tracks.

Pretty good.

 

00:35:42:07 - 00:35:44:19

Yeah, well. Better than most.

 

00:35:46:09 - 00:35:48:15

So I have talked to Mary and Yvonne,

 

00:35:48:15 - 00:35:51:18

and we're trying to schedule a time

to do a final one with you and the dean.

 

00:35:52:16 - 00:35:54:23

That's what. Yeah, that's what Mary said.

 

00:35:54:23 - 00:35:57:08

That. That'd be fun. That'd be a hoot.

 

00:35:57:08 - 00:35:59:16

My email said, can please tell me

when they're both available?

 

00:35:59:16 - 00:36:00:11

We'll do the podcast.

 

00:36:00:11 - 00:36:05:17

Mary sends me

a response back together? Yes.

 

00:36:06:18 - 00:36:08:00

Together.

 

00:36:08:00 - 00:36:13:03

He and I and I, you know,

I tell people they how one up at the bush.

 

00:36:13:04 - 00:36:16:03

School And I think I told this story before

 

00:36:16:03 - 00:36:19:06

I was interviewing for presidencies

around the country.

 

00:36:19:19 - 00:36:24:01

And I played I play tennis with

 

00:36:26:05 - 00:36:28:07

two faculty members

who were here in the bush school.

 

00:36:29:05 - 00:36:32:07

And they said, Frank, you know, why don't

you come work at the bush school?

 

00:36:32:19 - 00:36:35:09

I got I'm not going to work

at A&M anymore.

 

00:36:35:09 - 00:36:37:20

I've worked there so many years.

 

00:36:37:20 - 00:36:38:17

I'm not going to go back.

 

00:36:39:21 - 00:36:42:09

And they said, Well, we got a new dean.

 

00:36:42:09 - 00:36:44:21

He's not from academia.

 

00:36:44:21 - 00:36:47:14

And with all of your experience

in academia,

 

00:36:47:14 - 00:36:51:08

he needs to get associate dean

for academic affairs.

 

00:36:52:01 - 00:36:54:08

So I kept I mean, for four weeks.

 

00:36:54:08 - 00:36:56:17

I said, no, no, no.

 

00:36:58:07 - 00:37:01:02

And then one of them said,

at least go and meet him.

 

00:37:01:23 - 00:37:04:17

So I said, okay, I go and meet him

 

00:37:05:06 - 00:37:09:06

So I came over to the bush school

and went upstairs and I met him

 

00:37:09:20 - 00:37:14:13

and like I tell people, we fell in love.

 

00:37:14:13 - 00:37:17:05

It was love at first sight.

 

00:37:17:10 - 00:37:18:17

Oh, oh.

 

00:37:18:17 - 00:37:21:14

And I mean, we've been a couple

for seven years.

 

00:37:21:15 - 00:37:24:01

Yeah, it's a wonderful bromance.

 

00:37:24:01 - 00:37:26:17

Yeah.

 

00:37:26:17 - 00:37:29:07

That makes work worth it, right?

 

00:37:29:07 - 00:37:30:10

It does.

 

00:37:30:21 - 00:37:32:13

Take the drink away.

 

00:37:33:12 - 00:37:35:05

It does? Yeah, but we didn't.

 

00:37:35:05 - 00:37:37:07

We just hit, we hit it off.

 

00:37:37:07 - 00:37:39:04

And the thing I like about Mark,

 

00:37:40:08 - 00:37:41:13

we both think we think

 

00:37:41:13 - 00:37:45:09

alike about a lot of things.

 

00:37:45:09 - 00:37:49:23

Mark understands he really didn't know

anything about the academic affairs side.

 

00:37:50:08 - 00:37:54:04

I mean, the guy knows everything about

organization and management, everything.

 

00:37:54:04 - 00:37:57:04

But as far as academic stuff,

he doesn't understand that.

 

00:37:57:04 - 00:38:00:03

So he Frank, that's you're

you're in charge of this.

 

00:38:00:03 - 00:38:02:09

You're in charge of academic affairs.

 

00:38:02:09 - 00:38:05:17

And it's it's good.

 

00:38:05:17 - 00:38:08:05

It reminds me

when I worked for one of the chancellors,

 

00:38:09:08 - 00:38:11:13

the chancellor, he's a medical doctor.

 

00:38:11:13 - 00:38:13:01

He goes, I don't know anything about.

 

00:38:13:01 - 00:38:15:10

These universities. So,

 

00:38:15:10 - 00:38:18:22

I mean, I, I was in charge

of all of academic affairs.

 

00:38:19:11 - 00:38:22:10

Well, the sign of a good leader

is recognizing your weaknesses and

 

00:38:22:21 - 00:38:25:02

hiring people. Yeah. I mean, what? What?

 

00:38:25:03 - 00:38:29:01

I had one boss who always said,

what you do is you hire good people

 

00:38:29:01 - 00:38:33:23

and you get out of the way,

which is what you do, right, sarah?

 

00:38:34:00 - 00:38:40:03

I mean, I feel like I do,

but you have to ask the peanut gallery.

 

00:38:40:03 - 00:38:42:13

I'm just here for comic relief. I don't.

 

00:38:43:09 - 00:38:46:01

I mean, when she writes me

part of her reviews, most of the time

 

00:38:46:01 - 00:38:49:21

they're nice.

 

00:38:49:21 - 00:38:50:07

That's fair.

 

00:38:51:21 - 00:38:52:21

Most of the time.

 

00:38:52:21 - 00:38:55:00

Yeah. It's okay.

I mean, we all have growth to do.

 

00:38:55:01 - 00:38:55:20

I don't have a problem.

 

00:38:55:20 - 00:38:59:06

I know I got to change certain things,

but I try.

 

00:38:59:18 - 00:39:00:11

Yeah, I mean.

 

00:39:00:11 - 00:39:01:09

You should smile. More.

 

00:39:01:09 - 00:39:03:10

We wouldn't do.

you should smile some more.

 

00:39:04:05 - 00:39:04:10

Yeah.

 

00:39:04:10 - 00:39:07:15

I don't have any of you smiling today.

 

00:39:07:15 - 00:39:11:16

I've been smiling the whole time.

 

00:39:11:16 - 00:39:13:16

There's no poorly timed smiles.

 

00:39:13:22 - 00:39:16:06

Well,

I don't think we would love for cheese.

 

00:39:16:08 - 00:39:18:19

We wouldn't have time

just for this. Is it?

 

00:39:18:19 - 00:39:21:16

Okay, so it's not diversity,

inclusion, equity anymore.

 

00:39:21:16 - 00:39:23:00

It's community and culture, right? Yeah.

 

00:39:23:00 - 00:39:25:09

We wouldn't have any of that

if it wasn't for T.J.

 

00:39:25:09 - 00:39:27:14

in our building because I would

never have known where to start.

 

00:39:28:12 - 00:39:31:15

And she's done

everything to keep us very inclusive.

 

00:39:32:09 - 00:39:34:07

Um, especially the culture city stuff.

 

00:39:35:11 - 00:39:37:14

And that's some cool stuff.

 

00:39:37:14 - 00:39:40:07

The lactation rooms, for one,

the fact they were on the university map

 

00:39:40:07 - 00:39:42:23

with all of that, um, just

 

00:39:43:08 - 00:39:46:12

her just building the rapport

with every other department on campus.

 

00:39:47:05 - 00:39:49:21

She's better at booking than I am

because some events, I'm like,

 

00:39:49:21 - 00:39:52:06

uh, I don't really want to say Yes.

 

00:39:53:07 - 00:39:53:21

Just like when you asked me earlier

 

00:39:53:21 - 00:39:56:04

I and I'm like,

if we got the space, let's. do it

 

00:39:56:04 - 00:39:59:07

I just learned last semester

you guys had a shower over here.

 

00:39:59:23 - 00:40:01:12

I got to be in the greenroom.

 

00:40:01:12 - 00:40:03:01

Yeah, I could have. Been coming over here.

 

00:40:03:01 - 00:40:04:15

Shower in the green room.

 

00:40:04:15 - 00:40:06:23

Oh, a shower

I think. Might like a baby shower.

 

00:40:07:03 - 00:40:10:11

So I could have been coming over here

where I could have worked out.

 

00:40:10:11 - 00:40:13:05

And yeah, there's fluffy

towels or shampoo.

 

00:40:13:05 - 00:40:14:21

There's soap and deodorant.

 

00:40:14:23 - 00:40:17:00

Yeah. What are we going to do with her?

 

00:40:17:00 - 00:40:18:02

I don't know.

 

00:40:18:02 - 00:40:18:20

I may have gotten this.

 

00:40:18:20 - 00:40:20:23

No, but seriously, I said, you know,

 

00:40:22:11 - 00:40:24:08

we have events and things like that.

 

00:40:24:08 - 00:40:26:13

Let me know. Let me come help out.

 

00:40:27:04 - 00:40:27:19

Yeah.

 

00:40:28:01 - 00:40:31:04

especially if you have some fun.

 

00:40:31:04 - 00:40:33:11

I really think they should do an event

with him in the dean.

 

00:40:34:05 - 00:40:36:16

Like for the whole school

to come sit and listen to and stream

 

00:40:36:16 - 00:40:40:00

it out to all the alumni

 

00:40:40:00 - 00:40:41:13

And then that for the reunion.

 

00:40:41:13 - 00:40:42:16

Do what now.

 

00:40:42:16 - 00:40:46:09

To have you and the dean just come

and do a like a as they're on called.

 

00:40:46:09 - 00:40:47:08

Like a fireside.

 

00:40:47:08 - 00:40:49:11

I don't know why they call it.

Is there anyway.

 

00:40:49:11 - 00:40:50:18

There's not a fire.

 

00:40:50:22 - 00:40:52:22

That's all. Yeah,

 

00:40:53:00 - 00:40:56:06

but just have you and the dean come

before you leave or before he leaves?

 

00:40:56:11 - 00:40:58:11

Maybe you come back

when he decides to leave because.

 

00:40:58:11 - 00:41:00:20

We all know

that's probably not going to be,

 

00:41:00:20 - 00:41:03:14

you know,

very long from now before he leaves.

 

00:41:04:22 - 00:41:05:07

Yeah.

 

00:41:05:07 - 00:41:07:02

Oh, Lord, he knows something.

 

00:41:07:02 - 00:41:09:05

Look at that face.

Everybody knows something.

 

00:41:09:18 - 00:41:10:20

They just know.

 

00:41:10:20 - 00:41:13:06

All I've ever heard

is that they won't leave at the same time.

 

00:41:13:13 - 00:41:16:02

But it's not going to be long

after each other.

 

00:41:16:02 - 00:41:18:23

That's just been

the rumor has been floating around.

 

00:41:18:23 - 00:41:20:20

Look, he they did what they needed to.

 

00:41:20:20 - 00:41:23:11

The DC teaching side is here.

The school has grown.

 

00:41:23:11 - 00:41:25:20

They have a good rapport

with all the university administrations.

 

00:41:25:20 - 00:41:26:21

So they're going to leave it on a high

note.

 

00:41:26:21 - 00:41:29:20

They've jumped ship. Yeah, basically.

 

00:41:29:20 - 00:41:30:14

Then someone just.

 

00:41:30:14 - 00:41:34:23

Boy Scout rule is you leave it

better than it was when you got there.

 

00:41:36:08 - 00:41:38:14

And I think we are.

 

00:41:41:05 - 00:41:44:01

i dont know, I haven't been here that long.

 

00:41:45:08 - 00:41:46:11

i didnt see no change

 

00:41:46:11 - 00:41:48:10

dont look no better to me

 

00:41:48:10 - 00:41:50:02

Apparently the only I'm not.

 

00:41:50:02 - 00:41:52:20

I'm not privy

to the political side of everything.

 

00:41:53:03 - 00:41:55:01

You don't want to be you no, no.

 

00:41:55:01 - 00:41:56:13

Well,

I will say the one thing they made better

 

00:41:56:13 - 00:41:58:11

that still does not benefit you is the

 

00:41:58:11 - 00:42:01:16

the the the building directory maps

they have next door.

 

00:42:02:12 - 00:42:03:03

Oh yeah.

 

00:42:03:03 - 00:42:05:20

I still get lost

 

00:42:05:20 - 00:42:09:11

That means nothing to me.

 

00:42:09:11 - 00:42:11:17

I still get

I still stop bush school students.

 

00:42:11:17 - 00:42:17:10

I'm like, where's this person's office?

 

00:42:17:10 - 00:42:19:22

Yeah, just wander around, run into

somebody, you know, and then ask them.

 

00:42:20:01 - 00:42:22:12

I mean, that's I get my steps

in every time I go over there

 

00:42:22:12 - 00:42:24:08

because I got to walk up

down hallways and I'm like.

 

00:42:25:09 - 00:42:27:19

hour later we see her.

 

00:42:28:01 - 00:42:29:08

Sorry, I got lost.

 

00:42:29:08 - 00:42:32:10

I think she's just hanging out

in people's offices sometimes.

 

00:42:33:04 - 00:42:35:05

You know, look, if they don't come to us,

we're going to go to them.

 

00:42:35:05 - 00:42:35:09

Yeah.

 

00:42:35:09 - 00:42:38:03

No, it's I mean, it's

the easiest way to get answers is to be.

 

00:42:38:04 - 00:42:40:15

Like paperwork signed.

 

00:42:41:09 - 00:42:43:13

Hey, you know,

we tried to streamline all this,

 

00:42:43:13 - 00:42:45:18

but we still have to

sometimes go with the paper out.

 

00:42:45:21 - 00:42:46:13

Yeah, it's.

 

00:42:46:13 - 00:42:50:03

Okay. Well, I'm going to miss you.

 

00:42:50:04 - 00:42:51:07

Yeah, me too.

 

00:42:51:07 - 00:42:52:04

Yeah, I miss you.

 

00:42:52:04 - 00:42:54:18

guys

maybe I'll come back as a guest some.

 

00:42:56:05 - 00:42:57:13

Yeah. You're always welcome.

 

00:42:57:13 - 00:43:00:13

And talk about my adventures. Oh, yes.

 

00:43:00:13 - 00:43:01:13

I could be fun.

 

00:43:01:13 - 00:43:02:14

Life in your retirement

 

00:43:02:14 - 00:43:04:23

Show that life in retirement.

 

00:43:06:01 - 00:43:07:07

What people have to look forward to.

 

00:43:07:07 - 00:43:09:17

What they have to look for. Yeah. Oh.

 

00:43:09:17 - 00:43:11:03

We have to bring your wife on though.

 

00:43:11:03 - 00:43:13:03

Mm mm. No.

 

00:43:14:06 - 00:43:16:15

Why, why not to be separate.

 

00:43:17:09 - 00:43:21:07

No. Those deans dinners

with those deans dinners with you two

 

00:43:21:07 - 00:43:24:17

together at our table, Tanner

and I still talk about dinners.

 

00:43:25:01 - 00:43:28:04

Now we get his side of the story

and get hers.

 

00:43:28:04 - 00:43:30:10

No, no, no, no.

 

00:43:30:10 - 00:43:32:15

And then the truth will be somewhere. No.

 

00:43:33:09 - 00:43:36:01

She was telling something to dinner,

and she was sitting next

 

00:43:36:01 - 00:43:38:17

to just shaking her head.

 

00:43:38:17 - 00:43:41:19

It's like she just got totally different

perspective on things.

 

00:43:42:09 - 00:43:43:10

Yeah.

 

00:43:43:20 - 00:43:46:17

It's because she's never forgiven me

 

00:43:46:17 - 00:43:49:17

because she said I never proposed to her.

 

00:43:51:02 - 00:43:52:22

So propose to her.

 

00:43:53:08 - 00:43:55:19

I proposed to her.

 

00:43:55:19 - 00:43:58:17

What is it with men imagining these things

that actually happened in their head?

 

00:43:58:22 - 00:44:03:04

You know, now in her mind,

she's saying I think she said

 

00:44:03:04 - 00:44:08:04

I never got on her knees and said,

will you marry me?

 

00:44:08:04 - 00:44:08:17

So did you.

 

00:44:10:07 - 00:44:11:14

Well, here's the deal.

 

00:44:11:14 - 00:44:13:15

Here's a deal. Here's your deal.

 

00:44:14:17 - 00:44:17:00

We want to go on a trip

to the Virgin Islands.

 

00:44:17:03 - 00:44:19:07

Oh, I want to go there. It's so beautiful.

 

00:44:20:00 - 00:44:22:20

And we went over to Saint Thomas

 

00:44:22:20 - 00:44:24:15

and I said,

 

00:44:25:03 - 00:44:26:20

You know what? I heard?

 

00:44:26:20 - 00:44:28:22

They have good prices on wedding rings

here.

 

00:44:28:22 - 00:44:30:03

You want one?

 

00:44:30:03 - 00:44:34:09

Oh, my God.

 

00:44:34:09 - 00:44:36:12

Why are you shaking your head for us?

 

00:44:36:12 - 00:44:38:14

So you didn't propose? I did. no

 

00:44:38:14 - 00:44:40:19

That's a proposal. No, that's not it.

 

00:44:40:23 - 00:44:42:23

Let's go pick

you out a piece of jewelry, right?

 

00:44:42:23 - 00:44:44:21

Oh, no.

 

00:44:44:21 - 00:44:47:01

They have wedding rings here.

 

00:44:47:08 - 00:44:47:21

Uh huh.

 

00:44:47:21 - 00:44:49:23

But you didn't say, Hey,

you want to get married? Do you want to?

 

00:44:50:06 - 00:44:50:22

Do you. Want to?

 

00:44:50:22 - 00:44:53:11

Do you want to get one? It's

 

00:44:55:11 - 00:44:56:03

that's like asking.

 

00:44:56:03 - 00:44:57:19

Guys, help me. Guys.

 

00:44:57:19 - 00:44:58:21

That's no. Good.

 

00:44:58:21 - 00:45:01:04

I've been saying,

no, Michael, don't even start

 

00:45:02:14 - 00:45:02:18

this.

 

00:45:02:18 - 00:45:05:05

Like ask Jamie dinner a joke.

 

00:45:05:05 - 00:45:06:08

Jamie Yeah.

 

00:45:06:14 - 00:45:07:18

Jamie Yeah.

 

00:45:07:18 - 00:45:09:03

yes Dr. Ashley

 

00:45:09:03 - 00:45:11:14

I'm not siding with you on this. What?

 

00:45:11:14 - 00:45:14:09

I said. So you need to do a vow renewal.

 

00:45:14:14 - 00:45:15:02

Mm hmm.

 

00:45:15:08 - 00:45:16:08

I mean, you've already done that.

 

00:45:16:08 - 00:45:18:00

How many years? Next time you're.

 

00:45:18:00 - 00:45:20:02

30, it'll be 31.

 

00:45:20:02 - 00:45:21:22

go back to St Thomas, and try again

 right?

 

00:45:21:22 - 00:45:24:20

Yeah.

 

00:45:24:20 - 00:45:26:12

Genie is out of the bottle.

 

00:45:26:12 - 00:45:28:19

Mean you put the genie back?

 

00:45:29:02 - 00:45:31:02

Yeah, but you go back, and then you.

 

00:45:31:02 - 00:45:33:06

Then you go back to a jewelry store.

 

00:45:33:21 - 00:45:37:00

Hey, what if she says no?

 

00:45:37:00 - 00:45:38:07

Well, they'd be like, all right.

 

00:45:38:07 - 00:45:44:09

Oh, I don't know. Not.

 

00:45:44:23 - 00:45:45:17

And she says, no.

 

00:45:45:17 - 00:45:51:05

And you say, Too bad

you already stuck with me anyways.

 

00:45:51:05 - 00:45:54:02

So we got these different stories. Yeah.

 

00:45:54:02 - 00:45:55:11

Huh? Yeah.

 

00:45:56:00 - 00:45:58:01

I feel like hers are going to be

a little bit more accurate.

 

00:45:58:06 - 00:45:59:21

Probably more detailed. Now.

 

00:46:01:08 - 00:46:03:01

There's a story about, you know,

how we met.

 

00:46:03:01 - 00:46:06:06

I said, well, she's dating this other guy

and the guy where she is now.

 

00:46:06:06 - 00:46:08:03

I wasnt dating that guy, I said yes you was

 

00:46:08:03 - 00:46:09:03

She doesn't know what I said.

 

00:46:09:03 - 00:46:10:13

Well, he said yall were dating.

 

00:46:10:13 - 00:46:12:07

she goes that doesnt mean we are dating

 

00:46:13:01 - 00:46:13:09

It's.

 

00:46:16:04 - 00:46:18:20

If he says they were dating,

they were dating, she says, or wasn't.

 

00:46:18:20 - 00:46:22:02

They may may have gone on a date,

but we're not dating.

 

00:46:22:04 - 00:46:23:06

If you go on a date, you dating

 

00:46:23:06 - 00:46:27:08

Didn't know

because it might have just been one.

 

00:46:27:08 - 00:46:29:20

I’m with TJ on this one

 

00:46:30:00 - 00:46:32:04

one date doesn't count. That's just like.

 

00:46:32:04 - 00:46:34:21

Get to know

you is like having coffee saying, hey.

 

00:46:34:21 - 00:46:37:20

Let's see if you've checked all the boxes

because maybe they went on dates

 

00:46:37:20 - 00:46:40:05

with other people. Yeah. He

 

00:46:43:17 - 00:46:44:01

okay?

 

00:46:44:05 - 00:46:46:12

Yeah. I mean, you know,

 

00:46:46:17 - 00:46:47:09

life lessons.

 

00:46:47:09 - 00:46:49:20

Dr. Ashley, life lessons.

 

00:46:50:01 - 00:46:50:21

You know

 

00:46:51:12 - 00:46:57:00

that just shows

you never too old to learn.

 

00:46:57:00 - 00:47:00:01

That's for you viewers out there.

 

00:47:00:01 - 00:47:02:09

You're never too old to learn something.

 

00:47:03:04 - 00:47:05:10

Yeah, we learn stuff

constantly from our students.

 

00:47:05:10 - 00:47:07:18

Yeah. Oh, my gosh.

 

00:47:07:18 - 00:47:10:12

This this lingo of this generation,

I can't.

 

00:47:10:16 - 00:47:12:11

And my 11 year old is starting to do it.

 

00:47:12:11 - 00:47:14:08

And I'm just like, no.

 

00:47:14:08 - 00:47:18:02

No, speak English, speak English.

 

00:47:18:15 - 00:47:19:00

It is.

 

00:47:19:00 - 00:47:21:23

The words don't mean

what they used to mean anymore.

 

00:47:21:23 - 00:47:23:13

Like, I can't say it.

 

00:47:23:13 - 00:47:26:13

We're recording.

 

00:47:26:13 - 00:47:28:13

Yeah, we'll do that offline. Yeah.

 

00:47:29:02 - 00:47:29:19

Yeah.

 

00:47:29:19 - 00:47:32:15

It's, it's interesting.

 

00:47:32:15 - 00:47:36:08

Yeah, I can't,

I can't even half the time I'm just.

 

00:47:36:10 - 00:47:38:08

I don't even know I have to go

look it up and then I'm like,

 

00:47:38:08 - 00:47:42:09

why am I looking in the dictionary

to look in Urban Dictionary.

 

00:47:42:09 - 00:47:44:13

Which isn't always accurate. No, it's not.

 

00:47:45:05 - 00:47:47:17

And then you ask them and they try

to explain it to you and you're just like.

 

00:47:48:12 - 00:47:50:02

It's like they're trying to speak to me.

 

00:47:50:02 - 00:47:51:21

I know it.

 

00:47:51:21 - 00:47:56:10

You know, I love that movie.

 

00:47:56:10 - 00:47:57:10

Q Oh.

 

00:47:58:12 - 00:47:58:18

Yeah.

 

00:47:58:18 - 00:48:01:08

Anyway, thank you, Doctor.

Ashley Thanks, guys.

 

00:48:01:08 - 00:48:03:14

This is fun. It's always fun.

 

00:48:04:08 - 00:48:06:11

I hope to get you and the dean on.

 

00:48:06:11 - 00:48:09:02

Next time

we'll make sure the AC is working.

 

00:48:09:02 - 00:48:11:13

I feel better now. Yeah, it's better now.

 

00:48:11:19 - 00:48:12:00

Yeah.

 

00:48:12:00 - 00:48:14:09

The fact that I was able

to keep my jacket on,

 

00:48:14:09 - 00:48:16:04

I figured it's probably doing something.

 

00:48:16:04 - 00:48:19:04

Yeah. Yeah.

 

00:48:19:19 - 00:48:21:21

Okay. Yeah. Thank you.

 

00:48:21:21 - 00:48:23:22

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Sarah Chrastecky is the director of the Annenberg Presidential Conference Center, where she oversees all aspects of the operation.

Chrastecky graduated from Texas Lutheran University in 2006 with a Bachelor of Arts degree in studio art and a minor in psychology. Upon graduation, she moved to the Bryan/College Station area.

In the summer of 2009, Chrastecky began working for the APCC and caught the industry bug. During this time, she had the opportunity to expand her knowledge and passion by attending and graduating from the IAVM Venue Management School. In October of 2012, she transitioned to an associate director position for Chartwells Catering at Texas A&M University to continue her experience and business interests. She returned to the APCC as the manager in the summer of 2015. In February of 2017, she stepped in as interim director until June of 2018, when she accepted the director position.

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Dr. Frank B. Ashley III is the Executive Associate Dean and Senior Professor at the Bush School of Government and Public Service at Texas A&M University. He came to the Bush School from the College Board, where he was Senior Vice President of Membership and Higher Education Engagement. As Executive Associate Dean, Dr. Ashley oversees graduate education and research activities as well as strategic planning, faculty affairs, student affairs, program development, diversity, assessment, communications and external relations, student services, and extended education programs in the Bush School. He also teaches the Managing Diversity in Public and Nonprofit Organizations course. Dr. Ashley earned his bachelor’s degree fromLouisiana College and a master’s and doctorate from the University of Alabama. He began his academic career as a science teacher and coach. His previous appointments include faculty positions and service as Dean of the College of Education and Interim Provost-Vice President for Academic Affairs at Texas A&M University-Commerce as well as Director of Admissions and Associate Dean for Undergraduate Studies and Teacher Education in Texas A&M University’s College of Education. From 2007 to 2010, Dr. Ashley served as Vice Chancellor for Academic Affairs for the Texas A&M University System, where he served as Chief Academic Officer for the System and represented the System at the state level on all academic issues. In 2010, he was named Vice Chancellor for Recruitment and Diversity and Chief of Staff. In this position, he collected and analyzed Sys… Read More