From Acting to Healing: Dr. Karoline Fischer's Journey Through Hypnotherapy

Rich Bennett 0:00
Thanks for joining the conversation, where we explore the stories and experiences that shape our world on Yahoo's rich. And today, I have the pleasure of hosting Dr. Carolina Fisher, a renowned hypnotherapist specializing in rapid transformational therapy and emotional healing. Dr. Fisher has dedicated her career to helping individuals overcome challenges such as a lot of things. We talk about childhood trauma, anxiety and depression. By tapping into the power of the subconscious mind, her unique approach combines traditional talk therapy with deep hypnotherapy, often transformative results for her clients. I want to ask you this first, because you're not even though you're in New York, you're not from here originally, right? 

Karoline Fischer 0:48
I'm from Austria originally. 

Rich Bennett 0:51
So what is it that brought you here to the States? And don't say a plane. 

Karoline Fischer 0:56
Oh, wow. I, youknow, I wish I was funny enough to say a plane, but, no, I was actually, I always wanted to live in New York, and then I won on Who Wants to be a millionaire, and I won. It was about 14 years ago. I won $100,000 at. 

Rich Bennett 1:16
No way. 

Karoline Fischer 1:19
At the Austin, the Austin version. 

Rich Bennett 1:21
Okay. So it wasn't the one with Regis Philbin. 

Karoline Fischer 1:26
No, no, no, no. It's called the guys called. I'm in Singer. He was a skier before, and then he became. And now he's. I don't know if he's the last thing that Cho actually. But yeah, so it was the Austrian version. And as I always wanted to end up in New York, I then knew that I would come here to study acting. So that was my goal with that money. To study acting? Yeah. 

Rich Bennett 1:54
Okay, wait a minute. All right, so you were on Who Wants to Be a millionaire when $100,000 came over here to study acting? But you're a doctor. All right. How did 

Karoline Fischer 2:08
From. 

Rich Bennett 2:08
that happen? 

Karoline Fischer 2:10
Well, I graduated from high school in Austria before coming here, and I was always in that also. But my heart was always in the arts. But I took the, I think, more practical abroad. But then when I won the money, I was like, okay, that's my sign now. And I'm going to do what I always wanted to do and I thought I could only do in my next life, right? So, so I graduated from med school and then came here. I mean, it was I was in Los Angeles a little and that year and then I studied at a really renowned conservatory, and it was amazing. And yeah, so that's how I came here. 

Rich Bennett 2:53
So no acting at all, 

ma'am. 

Karoline Fischer 2:57
I still act? No, I still 

Rich Bennett 3:00
Oh, 

Karoline Fischer 3:00
do. 

Rich Bennett 3:00
do. 

Karoline Fischer 3:00
Acting too. But. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 

Rich Bennett 3:05
So like in plays or on TV. 

Karoline Fischer 3:09
The last thing was actually, I shot the scene for a, um. For a pilot. So, yeah. 

Rich Bennett 3:18
Oh, wow. 

Karoline Fischer 3:20
You know, I didn't know where you would go with your questions, but since you brought up both, I think those two are so related. I mean, different approaches, but in both of my jobs, I work with emotions, right? I work with humanity, I work with special situations. I work with trauma. Right? I mean, not every character in a play or screenplay has trauma, but some do, right? 

Rich Bennett 3:49
Yeah. 

Karoline Fischer 3:50
So. 

Rich Bennett 3:52
So what actually what initially drew you to hypnotherapy and how did you discover it's transformative power? 

Karoline Fischer 4:01
So when I was in Austria already and studied medicine, I was always interested in the more alternative path of healing. Even when I was in medicine and I struggled myself. And so I did a lot. I tried a lot of different therapy. I did psychoanalysis, the classic psychoanalysis with, you know, that if I Sigmund Freud, I was in that as a patient for six years and I did the regular talk therapy and then I did family systems and then family systems for the first time. I was, you know, they with family systems, you also tap into the subconscious of a system, Right? And that's when I found out about the power of the subconscious for the first time. So it was a long time ago, actually, And I realised the power that it had to transform because when I worked with family systems in Austria, I just I was transformed for the first time in my life, like physically. My body changed. I felt differently inside. And I think looking back, that was the first time, right? And then I moved on from there. And then I came here. And then I found the blocks again. Right. It's not that I can like, we carry them with us. Right. And I found new blocks, and I started therapy again. And then I found a powerful tool in working the subconscious. And I was so transformed that I was really inspired. To working with people and passing on that experience that I had. And I 

Rich Bennett 5:43
Right. 

Karoline Fischer 5:43
started work with them with the method that Jim Allen and her book Feeding Your Demons, describes that she had brought from Tibet. She worked with Tibetan nuns there, and they started work that with that exercise, which also taps in the subconscious. And I got clients and I got more clients, you know, And then I was thinking to myself, and I found out about Artie, I found out about Maurice up here, who is really amazing. And she you know, she created that therapy, the art of the hypnotherapy. And then I there was just for either the natural progression that I said, okay, now I want to have a certification also in what I do. And, and this really sums it up so well, hypnotherapy of my therapy. And then I trained as a hypnotherapist and started using that in my sessions. And now mainly with those tools, and I still use what I learned before, if necessary or if applicable or even beneficial. 

So it was really through my own discovery of of the subconscious and how powerful it is. 

Rich Bennett 7:04
Right. And you you work a lot with children. And adults are mainly children. 

Karoline Fischer 7:10
I mean, all sexually. 

Rich Bennett 7:13
Mainly with adults. Okay. Oh, okay. And a lot of adults when it comes to mental illness, a lot of it goes back to childhood trauma. 

Karoline Fischer 7:22
It goes always back there. I mean, I've worked with children sometimes, but I work with teenagers for sure, but mainly adults. Yeah. And the childhood trauma really like things that come up that are from the childhood, childhood or young, Right. 

Rich Bennett 7:38
We got with you doing that? I mean, that's got to be a lot on you, too. So I take it you you actually see a therapist as well? 

Karoline Fischer 7:48
Yeah, I have a I have a supervisor. 

Rich Bennett 7:51
Okay. I was going to say, because you're hearing all these people's problems and that just can be that can be a lot of weight on you. 

Karoline Fischer 8:00
I mean. 

Rich Bennett 8:01
Hmm. 

Karoline Fischer 8:02
It is it is very touching stories. I think with this and honestly, I do think that my acting training helped me with that too, because you also learn to go into character and then to also. You write, you shake it out two. And so that was also an aspect that was always interesting to me when I was in med school already. You know how to, you let it go but still, like, be empathic to someone, but not 

Rich Bennett 8:32
Right. 

Karoline Fischer 8:32
identify, not take it in the right. So I actually have to say I don't have any issues with that, but I have a supervisor that I can talk to. It's too close to home. Or if I realize, Oh, that me myself, you know, so I don't know if I can do this. Right. So I definitely I know my limitations and I that why I would say, okay, this is I can't do this right. That's um. But yeah, I definitely I'm touched every day in this. 

Rich Bennett 9:05
Right. 

Actually with with that new therapy. What are some misconceptions about it? And actually how do you address them with your clients? 

Karoline Fischer 9:17
I mean, I do free consultations before sessions. Not everybody. Some people know about my therapy already or did it before, so they don't even need that. But in the in the consultations, I usually say, you know, I want to just make sure you know what hypnotherapy is. It's not like something you do because a lot of people think like they are somewhere else. Right. And you have full power. I always say your consciousness is not knocked out. It's still there. This is supposed to be empowered to empower. It's not like for entertainment purposes where somebody says, okay, now you sleep and now you bark like a dog and then you don't know what you do. That's right. Because I want you to know what happened, what came up. I want to walk through it. I want you to work with the things that you internalize and reframe and transform. So I need you to be present. But the focus is on the subconscious in the body. So and then I also sent a introductory recording before I work with someone. 

Rich Bennett 10:21
Right. 

Karoline Fischer 10:22
8 minutes long. And that is an induction into hypnosis. And so they can listen to it and see that it's just a meditation. Actually, you know what? Just 

Rich Bennett 10:33
I. 

Karoline Fischer 10:33
maybe words, you know, that gets you really deep into your subconscious where you know, because when when I always say when we talk or I mean you talk, we create thoughts because that's how we. So of course, we have our energy in the frontal lobe of our brain because that's where we create our thoughts. It's normal, right? But in hypnosis, I just always say we are just sending all the energy that we usually use in our head. We are sending it down into your internal awareness, right into your brain, into your intuition. Right. I always say I would say the intelligence of your body. We we tap into the intelligence of your body. An intuition is that we often hear for that to write. 

Rich Bennett 11:18
Yeah. 

Karoline Fischer 11:19
I'm not saying subconscious is is equal to intuition. Right. But there's definitely in my experience and opinion, there is overlapping. Right. And it's the intelligence of our body. 

Rich Bennett 11:34
You also mentioned rapid transformational therapy. What exactly is that? 

Karoline Fischer 11:40
So that's really coined by Marissa here, and that is the hypnotherapy that I practice. It's called rapid relational therapy, and that is that RTD hypnotherapy. And that is basically coined because and I loved this, this was one of the things that sold me. Marissa said that she was always she she never liked when people had the conception about therapy, that if somebody had like a hard childhood or had trauma later in life, that they after that needed to go to therapy, maybe a lifelong. And she said that can't be is right. I mean, you have already a hard childhood or hard adulthood. And then on top of that, you've got to be punished by having to go to therapy for your entire life. So 

Rich Bennett 12:31
Right. 

Karoline Fischer 12:31
she. No, that can't be right. It's not your fault if you were mistreated as a child. Right? So we can't make it your fault to be able to do like to deal with it your entire life. Right? So she really focused on developing this 

this way of working with someone where you can transform beliefs that certain things made us believe in our childhood to adulthood or whenever it happened right. And she lets you transform that in one session. 

Rich Bennett 13:06
Wow. 

Karoline Fischer 13:07
You know, like, really deep rooted beliefs. Yeah. Right. Because our trauma usually if if you're coming to me, you're still alive. So that means you survived your trauma no matter what it was. 

Rich Bennett 13:18
Right. 

Karoline Fischer 13:20
So that means what you're dealing with now is that beliefs that you got from the trauma, right? Maybe the belief that you are worth nothing because people did that to you. So that must mean you are bad or that you know you can't do better because they told you that you're not better, whatever it is, but it's a belief that you keep holding on to. I mean, not give me hope. It's just in you, right? It may. 

Rich Bennett 13:46
Right. 

Karoline Fischer 13:46
Started believing that after things happen to you. And that's Norm and that's that's coping right, because that's the way we do it, because we can actually say, okay, because I'm not I'm bad. That happened to me. It actually gives me a feeling of, okay. I understand it. So it's quite right. But I'm not bad, Right? And nobody is bad by nature. Right in my. 

Rich Bennett 14:13
Right. 

Karoline Fischer 14:14
You know, we can we can discuss about that. 

Rich Bennett 14:16
Absolutely 

Karoline Fischer 14:18
But then when people come to me, we are transforming that inner child that believe of that little child or younger self to be a 20 year old that's heard something and took it on. Right. But 

Rich Bennett 14:32
right. 

Karoline Fischer 14:32
also like a lot is really shaped and a lot that comes up in the in the sessions is from one 2 to 7 years old because that's when we are in the brainwave of hypnosis. So we have areas of just until age seven. That's why a lot of psychologists also say, you know, your personalities develop at age seven because until. 

Rich Bennett 14:56
Wow. 

Karoline Fischer 14:57
We are so suggestible. So everything, everyone's everything anyone says or anyone close, we take it on like a sponge. 

Rich Bennett 15:06
Wow. 

So we're actually with the childhood childhood trauma. Because, I mean, that leaves scars. We all knew that. Or at least I would think we all knew that. How do you actually approach 

inner child work in your sessions? Does that make sense? 

Karoline Fischer 15:27
So in my sessions. 

Rich Bennett 15:28
What and what changes do you see in the clients who undergo this process? 

Karoline Fischer 15:34
So it's really straightforward into sessions. There are other ways to a. 

But in this session we are really. Let's say I'm a client and I come in because I 

let's say I have really low self esteem and I'm let's say I'm an accountant and I'm really good at what I do, but I earn way less than my peers, even my female peers. 

Rich Bennett 16:01
Right. 

Karoline Fischer 16:02
Can sell Myself and I, my relationships are subpar. And so I come in and say, you know, I don't know what's going on. Right. And then I would try to find out with that client, okay, what is the what can we what is the deepest common denominator of all those issues? Right. Okay. I'm not feeling like I'm enough, Right. That's why I said subpar relationships. That's why I said earning less. That's why I settle for this. So now we go into the subconscious. After talking about that on a conscious level, we go into the subconscious. I induce the hypnosis, and then we going to ask the subconscious why am I settling for? For what I don't actually want to write. Why am I settling for a relationship that I know I don't want? Right. It's not helping anyone. Right. Wild West settle for earning less. It's not helping anyone. It actually would help everyone around me if I lived up to my full potential. I could inspire other brides, and I could just make the real difference in the world that I'm here to make. Right. And then we ask the subconscious why. And the subconscious usually comes up with scene, and I usually say, use as many senses as possible. We close our eyes. And so ideally, you see the scene, you feel the scene, you hear the scene. Some people smell the scene, right? So in that case, if I was that clients coming in with those issues, a scene might come up where I'm five years old and let's say I'm spilling milk and let's say my father and my uncle or whoever is there says to me, Oh my God, you are so clumsy. Nothing will ever get, you know, you'll never get you'll never be never. Like you can be happy if you'll marry someone and get through life like that. Right. 

Rich Bennett 18:00
But. 

Karoline Fischer 18:01
I mean, and things like that are said easily, like I have heard. 

Rich Bennett 18:03
Oh, yeah, absolutely. 

Karoline Fischer 18:06
So what does that do to me? Right? I'm incorporating that. I'm internalizing that. Right. I'm clumsy. I'm not going to become anything. Right. My mind's health. No. To my body, my body is saying, oh, okay, I'm. I'm not going to become anyone. I'm clumsy. So now when I'm walking around, I'm going to be clumsy because my mind instructs my body because it doesn't matter. It doesn't mind if my uncle said that to me or I really believe it's right or I'm afraid of it, or I want to be it. There's no distinction, right? I just see a clumsy not being anyone. And that's how I'm going to go through life, right? 

Rich Bennett 18:51
Yeah. 

Karoline Fischer 18:54
And in the session, that scene comes up. Right. We're going to we really feel that in child, right? We have access to that again. And the client in this case me would really be and feel that enough child and would see that person again that that adult figure again and say to them, Hey, Daddy or Hey uncle. It really made me feel that you said that. It made me feel this and this about me. Now, I know that was not my fault. It was your issue, right? You didn't know how to treat a little girl, right? You didn't know anything about anything about healthy parenting. So I'm going to give you that fact, that insecurity or that whatever it what's right. And by giving that back, really letting that inner child speak those words. Right. That they never spoke. Because in that situation, as a five year old, you'd probably not say anything right 

Rich Bennett 19:50
Right? Exactly. 

Karoline Fischer 19:51
or wrong to your mommy or just run into your room. Right. 

Rich Bennett 19:55
Yeah. 

Karoline Fischer 19:56
But this time you say the words right, and you assert yourself and you you give it back because you internalized it in that moment. And by giving it back, you can give the internalization back. And now you don't have it internalized anymore that nothing will come of you and you don't have it internalized anymore, that you're clumsy. Right. 

So. 

Rich Bennett 20:23
Okay. And you do this virtually as well as in person. 

Karoline Fischer 20:27
Yeah, I do. Actually, at the moment I only work virtually. So before COVID, I still had an office and then I realised it worked so well. We are doing. 

Rich Bennett 20:35
Right. 

Karoline Fischer 20:36
I only work with Zoom right now. 

Rich Bennett 20:39
So with with that, 

I'm sure you've already picked up a routine to where you can do it. But when you first started doing it, virtually, was it more of a challenge? Because I would think that you your client needs you need to have all of their attention no matter what. I would I would assume so, especially if I knew hypnotherapy. 

Karoline Fischer 21:04
I mean, I need all the attention for sure, but I just make sure they are in a quiet, safe space. I always say. 

Rich Bennett 21:10
Okay. 

Karoline Fischer 21:11
Yourself quiet space. And yeah, there was no challenge in that at all. I mean, even 

Rich Bennett 21:18
Really? 

Karoline Fischer 21:19
Yeah, I trained in person, but I also trained via Zoom and I also did sessions already via Zoom during my training because you need to do a certain amount of sessions to get the certification right. And most of those sessions I did already via Zoom, so I was. That. 

Rich Bennett 21:40
And I think I already knew the answer to this. But with COVID, did you see a rise especially, you know, with you get more clients and their anxiety and depression on the rise? 

Karoline Fischer 21:57
I have to say, my clients, the issues I work with. Really change. But. But the influx of clients became more during COVID. 

Rich Bennett 22:11
Okay. 

Karoline Fischer 22:12
So it might have that there is more anxiety, but I just always got the clients in that category, you know? 

Rich Bennett 22:19
Right. 

Karoline Fischer 22:21
Yeah. So I definitely 

Rich Bennett 22:22
So. 

Karoline Fischer 22:23
saw surprising clients. 

Rich Bennett 22:25
Okay. Emotional healing. Is also a significant focus of your work. This is something that I'd love to hear. So can you share a success story where I keep saying hypo hypnotherapy made a profound impact on a client's life? 

Karoline Fischer 22:45
Yeah, many. Really, many. But let me see. One that I. 

Yeah. A recently I had a client. Very, 

very well established, very well educated, very like everything, you know. And she, she was just doing very bad at test taking. And she is in a field where she has to take tests basically her entire career. I mean, she will. 

Rich Bennett 23:22
Wow. 

Karoline Fischer 23:23
Yeah, I mean, not like yearly, but, you know, in certain. 

Distances? I don't know. I can't think of the word now. And she succeeds in her job. But in testing, she always did poorly. And through the sessions, we really found out that she does so badly, has accepted exams and has always because that was her way of actually trying to tell her parents. She wants attention, too, because she was all that was so good in school. She had four siblings and the four siblings. They all needed so much more attention than her. So her parents was like, Oh, she's good. Anyway, she can do it anyways. But she wanted her parents to also sit down with her and do the alphabet with her and do this with her. We did. So she just always was bad attends because she thought her parents would then figure out Why did you do so badly in test? Why? What's going on? But they never did because she still made it, even though she did poorly at test. So then. So it never worked out for her anyways. That's why she just kept doing it. And now she has actually a test coming up on exam coming up. But she didn't want that right. She really gave that back. She said, okay, now I know, you know, I don't need that attention anymore. I mean, I have to ask, but we still have the we still have we carry our, you know, the parents, the versions of 

Rich Bennett 24:58
Yeah. 

Karoline Fischer 24:58
the parent. We have enough, right? The so it was really amazing to see that that you could really so see that and give it back and then really 

Yeah. Have nothing in our way anymore to now do good at exams because she could really see. Yeah she boycotted it on purpose but it was just subconsciously so she couldn't feel it that it was on purpose. Right. From some. So it could just would just show that everything that we do, there's always a payoff, right? Because people come and say, I want to get rid of this anxiety, I want to get rid of this. And I'm like, we will. We want to embrace it first because the anxiety wants to tell you something, right? 

Rich Bennett 25:40
Mm hmm. 

Karoline Fischer 25:41
There's a reason why it's there. So let's be curious first, there's always a payoff off. Often fears just want to protect us, right? So it's hard to just rip it out, right? 

Rich Bennett 25:55
Yeah. 

Karoline Fischer 25:55
You say, okay, thank you for being here for me for all these years. I know you meant well, but now I'm gonna focus more on courage than on fear rather than be transform it into something that's more beneficial and helpful now. 

Rich Bennett 26:12
Parenting is a hard job to do. And the thing is, there are times where we feel like we're doing the best for our kids. You know, like I'm sure her parents thought that year she was Asian. Everything she was doing great. But we don't realize the emotional scars we're putting on our kids at times. 

Karoline Fischer 26:34
That's why always. I'm not blaming any parents. Right. When that. 

Rich Bennett 26:38
Yeah. 

Karoline Fischer 26:39
I'm not saying, Oh, you need to now play me about. No, the opposite, right? I'm saying they did the best they could. We know that, right? 

Rich Bennett 26:45
Yeah. 

Karoline Fischer 26:47
It's something to you that you weren't even aware that they were on the way. Aware. So you couldn't have been aware, right? 

Rich Bennett 26:53
Yeah. 

Karoline Fischer 26:54
They can only do so much what they see, what they know, Right? So what we are just eating what what is now. Right. 

Rich Bennett 27:04
Yeah. 

Karoline Fischer 27:04
Late. 

Rich Bennett 27:07
And I, I just had I listen to another podcast episode by two young girls that I just met. I just recorded an episode of them and they were talking about the woman's talking about how she was at the field, I think it was for her daughter's soccer game. And there was another little girl there, and 

after the game the little girl was still there, and I think she asked the little girl where her parents were. Well, my daddy told me to stay here and he'll pick me up at like 830 or whatever, which is like another hour. Because what wasn't in here for you to watch it now? Well, what about you? My mother doesn't come to these. This young girl, just her parents can never make it now. Granted, I know some parents are like they feel they have to work, work, work, work, work to make everything better for their child and their family sometimes don't realize and this is something my father always taught me said, there you. You can make all the money in the world, but if you're not spending time with your families, you're not happy. It ain't worth it because that you can't put a value. It's. It's. Family time is priceless. 

Karoline Fischer 28:26
Percent? 100%. 

Rich Bennett 28:27
You can't put a value on it. 

Karoline Fischer 28:30
You can't. You can't. And money is not cannot pay for that. I mean, of course, money is important. We need money to survive even. Right. But especially after you have your basic needs met. Right? You have. 

Then money can't buy you any happiness. 

Rich Bennett 28:49
Yeah. 

Karoline Fischer 28:49
It may not even 

Rich Bennett 28:52
In 

Karoline Fischer 28:52
be. 

Rich Bennett 28:53
those moments, you're not going to get back. 

Karoline Fischer 28:55
Sorry. 

Rich Bennett 28:56
And a lot of those moments that you missed, you cannot get back. 

Karoline Fischer 29:00
No, you can't. 

Rich Bennett 29:03
Of course, as parents, we learn over time. Unfortunately, sometimes it's too late. Would I have done some different things with my kids? Oh, you bet. You bet. In a heartbeat. But are. 

Karoline Fischer 29:17
It's amazing to see us say, okay, now I know better. Now I know I would have done better. Write a lot of I see that a lot of parents also go through the wall and say, no, I did it right. And I stand by that right. And I'm not going to do a new way because then I might find out that it wasn't the best. Right. Or but you always do the best in the moment. Right. And if you know better, you do better, right? 

Rich Bennett 29:42
Mm. 

Absolutely. It may. We talked about this briefly. We talked about anxiety and depression, because a lot of people struggle, struggle with it. How does hypnotherapy address these issues differently compared to, say, your regular or conventional therapeutic methods? 

Karoline Fischer 30:05
So hypnotherapy compared to talk therapy. Is that? You are not just then you are. I mean, I think all of those therapeutic methods have their place, and I'm in all right. I think it's so important to have talk therapy and behavioral therapy, 

but they are just for different reasons, right? Talk therapy is mainly you. You are in your consciousness, right? You might have epiphanies and you're like, yeah, great. And you know what I found with talk therapy? For me, I think it was important. But then there was a one point where you can go in circles in your brain, right? You. 

Rich Bennett 30:51
Right. 

Karoline Fischer 30:53
So for me, if I know it already and I don't see then knowing actions in my life, then maybe I don't know it emotionally. Yes, right. There are some that you need to feel rather than only know to make a difference. And hypnotherapy touches that right that in you that intelligence in your body that information right that. Differentiate them. So that is the difference that you work with the subconscious, right? And then talk therapy. You work with the conscious. 

Rich Bennett 31:31
Okay. 

Should I? For the people listening who might be skeptical or nervous about trying hypnotherapy. A lot of people are the same about conventional therapy, but what advice or reassurances would you offer for them? 

Karoline Fischer 31:51
I would. Yeah. I mean, there's never been any, you know, like there's 

there's never been a case, really, that I've heard of 

in my training and in my experience. It's harmed the person. Right. I have had cases where things came up that the person wasn't aware of and that the person didn't come in for and that the person was shocked for, you know, and that worked with it. I hold space for it, right? We work through it, but it has always like there's always I'll not leave until you have a transformation, you know? I mean, I, I don't see anything because I also think that 

whatever comes up, you're ready for it. Otherwise it wouldn't come up. 

Rich Bennett 32:44
Right. 

Karoline Fischer 32:47
I never experienced anything because, I mean, the only thing I can think of that people could make up in their mind as a as a as a fear is the fear of discovering something that they that they might get the psychosis from. Right. Because it's so easy. So I've never heard that. I've never experienced that because I believe. Right. Because I'm not using drugs. So and I'm not saying anything against drugs that I. 

Rich Bennett 33:16
Right. 

Karoline Fischer 33:17
That eye opening, the conscious and subconscious, Right? I think. I mean, honestly, I'm, you know, I'm. Yeah, I'm open to that, actually. But I since we are working without drugs. Right, there's no way it will go to a place where you are not ready with my support. That's what my you know, because there's no drug pushing you further than you. You know what I mean? Because if it's an outside sample. 

Rich Bennett 33:43
Yeah. 

Karoline Fischer 33:44
I believe it might be able to push you further than you would willingly go. Right. On a subconscious level. But I. Yeah. So. Yeah. 

Rich Bennett 33:56
You mentioned, you know, with drugs, you work with people that are in addiction, right? 

Karoline Fischer 34:03
Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I meant now with. With drugs, like. 

Rich Bennett 34:07
Oh, no, I know. I know what you meant. It just. It's just we talk about addiction a lot. I just thought about. 

Karoline Fischer 34:12
Yeah, yeah, yeah. 

Rich Bennett 34:14
But 

again, because we talk about addiction a lot, how have how has hypnotherapy helped those that are in addiction? Are you are or are you doing it with people that are already in recovery? 

Karoline Fischer 34:34
I actually work with people that that are addicted to drugs. 

Yeah. I mean, all the addictions come down to avoid in yourself that you want to feel with something and for some reason, that person happened to choose drugs for it, right? They could have chosen, in my opinion, alcohol or shopping or sex or whatever. 

Rich Bennett 34:58
Right. 

Karoline Fischer 34:59
And that what comes up really in that sense of. Low self-worth. Right. And then working on that changes everything. Right. Because once you nurture that void and you put love into that void and you'll nurture that void, how is want it to be not. Right. You don't need to fill it with drugs or alcohol or whatever anymore to make you feel cozy. Right. 

Rich Bennett 35:29
Mm hmm. 

Karoline Fischer 35:30
So again, you go to the roots and it's not different with drugs than with, you know. 

Rich Bennett 35:38
Just finding the root cause of it all. 

Karoline Fischer 35:40
Exactly. Yeah. 

Rich Bennett 35:42
Okay. So something when you sent me the message. There is something. There is like, Oh, my God, how can I ask her about this? But I'm just gonna. I'm just going to come out and ask. Because you work with people with different phobias. 

What is. One of the strangest phobias you have come across. 

Karoline Fischer 36:10
I have to say I am. I don't think that I have had any clients with really a strange phobia. I would say. 

I have worked with people that have a fear of flying on a plane. 

Rich Bennett 36:28
That was me for a while. 

Karoline Fischer 36:30
So that's not strange, right? So I haven't. Yeah. 

You know, fear of moving forward. Fear of the future. Right. But if that's not strange and. And Right. 

Rich Bennett 36:43
There. 

Karoline Fischer 36:44
No, I haven't had any. Really? Yeah. 

Rich Bennett 36:49
Ones that you consider strange. 

Karoline Fischer 36:51
Yeah. No, I. 

Rich Bennett 36:52
Yeah. Okay. The reason I bring that up, because I 

you hear of so many different whether it's afraid of spiders, whether it's afraid of butterflies, which is I don't know. What that's called, but. I think my son had that. It's like those are some of the most beautiful things out there. How can you be afraid of them? You know, it's just where's the other thing? And I was in the Marine Corps, so I would hang from helicopters. I would repel, no problem. But all of a sudden, I have a fear of heights. 

Karoline Fischer 37:35
Wow. 

Rich Bennett 37:36
How is it? I mean, I think I know the answer, but how often do you find that somebody, even as an adult, they have a new fear that just comes across. 

Karoline Fischer 37:50
I happen to have a. 

Rich Bennett 37:51
Make. 

Karoline Fischer 37:52
Uh huh. So how often do you have a do I come across fears or what is the. 

Rich Bennett 37:59
Did somebody that there's somebody you never had before as a kid, it's like. All of a sudden as an adult this this new like. 

Karoline Fischer 38:07
No. 

Rich Bennett 38:07
Fear of heights now. 

Karoline Fischer 38:11
I mean, I think. Right. I'm definitely I wouldn't say I have worked a lot with that that fears that come up later in life and just randomly. 

Rich Bennett 38:23
Just a weird I. 

Karoline Fischer 38:25
No, no, no, no. I wouldn't say that. Right. But I work with CEOs also. But my main is really like I had a lot of childhood trauma, anxiety. That's what my main is. So. But I would say that it's really the same that you are just you know, when you were in the Marine Corps, I imagine you did what you had to do, Right? And sometimes when we do what we have to do, I feel we just 

we just shut the other part down that might feel different. And then later I can come up. 

Yeah. So. 

Rich Bennett 39:06
Okay. Huh. Interest. 

Karoline Fischer 39:10
Yeah, that was the, the only that I write because often you could ask. Well, you could ask. I have definitely been asked. How come that some people. Come to me in their thirties or some in their sixties. Right. Only 

Rich Bennett 39:25
Right. 

Karoline Fischer 39:25
with China. Right. And it's the same because for a long time and some people can do it for 30 years and some people for 60. Right. For a long time. You can't just mask it. You can suppress it. You can just live around it. Right. So many things. We have come. 

Rich Bennett 39:41
That shame as well. 

Karoline Fischer 39:44
Hmm. 

Rich Bennett 39:46
Yeah. 

Karoline Fischer 39:48
Mechanisms then shame. Yeah, I'm sure to you. And it is a strong 

so. 

Rich Bennett 39:57
So basically I need to just face my fear head on. My fear. Look, I finally flew in February, so I think I just need to climb a ladder and say whatever. 

Karoline Fischer 40:09
No, I think it's not. But I think it's great to get help. Yeah, right. I don't think it's strange that it comes up. It comes up later. Right. And you did it before without a problem. But I'm just saying I'm not a specialist in answering that question. That's all. That's. 

Rich Bennett 40:26
Okay. 

Karoline Fischer 40:27
Don't think it's specifically strange or. Oh, whoa, this is so crazy. 

Rich Bennett 40:30
Yeah. 

Karoline Fischer 40:31
That's. No. 

Rich Bennett 40:34
Okay. Yeah, I it's weird. It's like I never had a problem. And then just one day, halfway up the ladder, I froze. Meanwhile, my brother's at the bottom. Laughing at me will not help me down this long. 

Karoline Fischer 40:48
Family. 

Rich Bennett 40:49
So. So looking ahead, how do you see the field of hypnotherapy evolving and what new developments are techniques? Are you excited about? 

Karoline Fischer 40:59
I just hope, you know, and think it's just going to get more and more like more and more people will be open to it because I think it's really sure. 

Because, yeah, I mean, so much could be healed through hypnotherapy. So I think, yeah, people are in general, right? I mean, I see it's expanding the field, A field is expanding and more and more people are willing to drive, whereas 20 years ago more people were skeptical. Right? So that's what I and I see happening. 

Rich Bennett 41:33
Dr. Fisher, I, I don't. 

I don't know if I can think of one, but do you know if there are any podcasts out there about this, about hypnotherapy? 

Karoline Fischer 41:46
One. That's a good one. I don't know. I really don't know if there's one specifically for hypnotherapy. 

Rich Bennett 41:55
Well, maybe you should start one. 

Karoline Fischer 41:58
Yeah, I mean, I've heard that before, actually, but. 

Rich Bennett 42:02
Oh, really? 

Karoline Fischer 42:03
I have so much going on. I think I'm good. 

Rich Bennett 42:06
Okay. 

Karoline Fischer 42:07
I'm. 

Rich Bennett 42:07
You're good for it now. 

Karoline Fischer 42:09
I think I'm good for now. Know, because I talk to this podcast host Harry Duran and. Oh, and sorry. 

Rich Bennett 42:20
That's okay. 

Karoline Fischer 42:21
He's interviewing other Podcast's hosts. And he said, Well, why don't you make a podcast? I make. I mean, I love the idea and I love to talk about things, but. 

Not at the moment. I mean, I have my school and I love it. I love every. 

Rich Bennett 42:36
Right. 

Karoline Fischer 42:36
My plate, but and I would love that too. But as long as they only had 24 hours and my kids are only 15 months and six years once, right. 

Rich Bennett 42:48
Wow. Yeah. Well, keep in mind, if you do. There's not no rule that says it has to be a certain amount of minutes. It could be a five minute episode. It could be a 30 minute episode. It could be a three hour episode. It's all up to you. 

Karoline Fischer 43:08
Thank. 

Rich Bennett 43:08
You make it what you want. 

Karoline Fischer 43:10
Thank you. Thank you. 

Rich Bennett 43:13
Just. Just sayin. See? So now you have two of us dropping that bug in your ear that you need. 

Karoline Fischer 43:19
Yeah. 

Rich Bennett 43:20
I have a funny feeling. Within a year, you're going to be doing your own podcast. 

Karoline Fischer 43:24
I'm going to reach out to you that. And tell you what, you put me off to the. 

Rich Bennett 43:32
What did you do to you? Rage. 

Well. Well, wait till you finish your book. 

Karoline Fischer 43:41
Oh, yeah. 

Rich Bennett 43:42
You got to. I know you like. Why are you giving me all this homework? 

Karoline Fischer 43:50
I like it. I like. 

Rich Bennett 43:54
I'll. I'll stop giving you more homework. Something very important. Tell people how they can get in touch with you and website. Social media, whatever you want to tell them all. 

Karoline Fischer 44:06
So. 

Rich Bennett 44:06
And of course, they can get your services. 

Karoline Fischer 44:09
Thank you. My website is why hypnotherapy dot com so that's why it's in w h i y hypnotherapy dot com and there is my email there on my phone number and so you kind of reach out there. I have an Instagram in this page now and Sonia. 

Rich Bennett 44:30
What's the freebies? 

Karoline Fischer 44:32
Other freebies, the introduction to hypnotherapy that's recording that. You can also download the. 

Rich Bennett 44:39
So before I let you go and get to my last question, is there anything you would like to add? 

Karoline Fischer 44:46
No, no, no. 

I'm. 

Rich Bennett 44:51
All right. So my last question, how many interviews have you done so far? Actually, this is a two part question. 

Karoline Fischer 45:00
Four, five, five I've done so far since I joined. 

Rich Bennett 45:05
Five. 

Karoline Fischer 45:06
Mm hmm. Yeah. 

Rich Bennett 45:08
Oh. 

Well, in that case, I'm not going to be able to ask you that question. So I'm going to ask you a different question. 

Karoline Fischer 45:15
Okay. 

Rich Bennett 45:15
You said you children. 

Karoline Fischer 45:18
My. 

Rich Bennett 45:20
56 years and 15 months. So how are you? How are your children doing? 

Karoline Fischer 45:27
They are doing. 

Rich Bennett 45:28
Virtually the six year old because. Six year old was ran during COVID. 

Karoline Fischer 45:33
Yeah. I mean. Oh, that's such a good question. You know, I just. During COVID, honestly here, although the parks were closed, he and I went out every day and we played with friends because there was a a place near our in the in our neighborhood that was not closed because it's not technically a park. 

So that was a made up place. And we still met there. And. 

Rich Bennett 46:04
Good. 

Karoline Fischer 46:05
Yeah, he got a very social time, actually. So he if you would ask him, honestly, I don't think you would if you would ask him. I was convinced he would say what? 

Rich Bennett 46:17
You want to know what it was? Yeah. 

Karoline Fischer 46:18
For him. It was a normal time going outside with Mommy and playing with his friends. 

Rich Bennett 46:23
He wants to be like mommy when he gets older, doesn't he? 

Karoline Fischer 46:27
I mean, he wants to be an actor, actually, and he's really a good actor already. So he's already now. 

Rich Bennett 46:33
So he wants to follow in your footsteps. 

Karoline Fischer 46:35
Yeah. Yeah. 

Rich Bennett 46:37
See. There you go. Well, good thing you're living in New York because he may be on Broadway soon. You never know. 

Karoline Fischer 46:44
No, I mean, he is in the he was on the in the. He was in a movie already. And that show that the. 

Rich Bennett 46:49
What? 

Karoline Fischer 46:51
And my daughter was in our TV show. Yeah, they are. They are. Uh huh. Uh huh. 

Rich Bennett 47:00
So what I'm hearing from you is you're going to be retiring soon so they can take care of you. 

Karoline Fischer 47:07
Well, I wouldn't say that, but they are well on their way. Let's say like that. 

Rich Bennett 47:13
That is awesome. That is awesome. Well, Dr. Fisher, I want to thank you so much. It's been a pleasure talking to you. And everybody listening. Make sure you go to her website if you want to check out hypnotherapy. Why hypnotherapy Dotcom. You can find out more about her bio. Look at the testimonials. Say it all. Why her clients love her. And if you need her services, she's right there for you. So, Dr. Fisher, thank you so much. 

Karoline Fischer 47:49
Some might.