The Battle Beyond the Seas: Kristof Morrow on Tourette's and Writing

Rich Bennett 0:00
Thanks for joining the conversation today. I am thrilled to introduce a guest whose life story reads like an epic novel filled with trials, triumphs and an unreal spirit of resilience. Ladies and gentlemen, joining us today is Christophe Moreau, a veteran, an acclaimed author and a journalist whose journey is nothing short of extraordinary. Crystal, his debut book, The Second Son, has captured the hearts of over 1200 readers, a feat he achieved after going viral on TikTok. But that's just the tip of the iceberg. Growing up as the third born, but first in his family to graduate high school, Kristof's early life was marred by parental abuse and addiction. Yet he found solace and strength in writing a skill he honed while serving as a corpsman in the United States Navy. His journey took him through various paths from being an EMT in a911 dispatcher to winning awards in feature writing and photography at a newspaper, a job he earned through sheer talent and determination. His life has been a rollercoaster of challenges, including a fierce battle with Tourette's syndrome, which he faced with the courage that defines him. His story is one of overcoming adversity, embracing one's passions, and the transformative power of resistance. So without further ado, let's welcome Christoph Maas to the show. Christophe, first of all, thank you, ma'am, for joining us today and for being willing to share your story and your incredible journey with our listeners. 

Kristof Morrow 1:35
You're very kind to have me reach. Thank you. 

Rich Bennett 1:37
Oh dude, it's, you know, veterans looking after veterans. Know, you say first of all. Mm hmm. Mm hmm. But I just want to I want to start off I want to go back into high school because you got your diploma. Was it your dream to go into the Navy while you were in high school? 

Kristof Morrow 1:55
I always. It was since I was little. I know the I know that it might sound silly to some people, but the movie Saving Private Ryan, I saw it when I was quite young. Hmm. And there was. I thought it was very I. I was already a keen observer of humans, you know, because when you grow up in a really abusive house with someone that's rather capricious and just can just flip, just be and just be, you have to be able to read expressions like I. So I just sort of. Yeah. 

And now I forgot what I was saying because I'm. 

Rich Bennett 2:30
About saving Private Ryan. 

Kristof Morrow 2:31
Oh, yeah, of course. Okay. So. So I thought. I thought it was. Rather I saw it as a rather solemn thing when I am I saw like the corpsman are on at the beginning scene on D-Day where he's running, you know, into the fire and and hiding behind the hedgehog. What is it called? But you don't know what you're talking about. Yeah, I don't know. What's it called? I don't know. 

Rich Bennett 2:56
What the hell they call it. A bed. Bed? 

Kristof Morrow 2:58
I don't know. 

Yeah. And he's just and like, you know, like it having almost no concern for their own life and. And just so many other examples of of of valor that I just. I thought that was the best opportunity to prove to myself that I had what it took to be a decent person like that, that treasured and other people's lives as much as my own. 

Rich Bennett 3:26
I see. You went into the Navy. You became a corpsman. Now. I tell you, you served with some Marines. 

Kristof Morrow 3:32
I served in a naval air station in Jacksonville, Florida. And. Oh, really? Okay. Yeah. And, yeah, I went East Coast, but then that's when I manifested Tourettes when I was working at a hospital. 

Really? Yeah. And that's. That's what going to be, like, not deployable anymore. 

Rich Bennett 3:51
So how, how does. Because I've, I've only seen a few people with Tourette's, but have, as you said, you manifested it while in the Navy. How did that come about? 

Kristof Morrow 4:04
That's the thing is no one really knows. It is like because a syndrome for people that don't know it, it's called a syndrome because it's a pattern of behaviors that can be somewhat predicted, but the underlying cause is unknown. Wow. And so so we don't know exactly what causes Tourette's. I myself have tried to formulate something resembling a healthy hypothesis about what that is. 

But it's Tourette's is like Tourette's for me. It manifested, I think, because it can be induced environmentally by a trauma like violence and stuff like that. But apparently, somehow I was able to resist long enough. But when I got into the Navy and I joined the Navy, I wasn't sleeping because I was so afraid of waking up late. Like waking up too late, not showing up on, you know, to do real time or. Yeah. So I couldn't sleep and yeah, and I was I was otherwise abusing my body like nutritionally and you know, just what young people do. And then one night I remember feeling as if I was working. I was, I was on duty. I was working in the ad in medicines. And that's when I felt like I was I had something of an aura and I thought it was a seizure, like a seizure coming. And and I just I went up to the nurse's station and with other physicians, and I said, I feel like something's wrong. And I and they said, What? But then I walked away, and about 10 minutes later I started having a tick attack. And then, um, which is like a it looks like a seizure, right? Except you're conscious for it. And then I was able to walk towards a physician that was in the next room, and I, like, slammed my head against the wall. I fell to the floor and then just started just like, yeah, I was in ICU for three days. And it was it was awful. It was awful. And then episodically, it returned once every maybe a year and a half, two years, I would have this weird I would have a day where something or I just wouldn't I didn't have agency in the same space like I was. There was like there was someone else trying to grab the wheel, you know? And then finally, Yeah. Yeah, finally when I was 25, my, I think my OCD, obsessive compulsive started to become a much more consequential from a mental in my mental health and in my ability to cope with reality. And, and so whenever I, uh, I so I had, when it intensified, I started to 

I started to actually grunt and do this. My abs would tighten, you know, it would just I did that. And that was like the first that was my first tic. I think so. And then it kept on. 

Rich Bennett 7:10
So it is there are different types of Tourette's. 

Kristof Morrow 7:14
There's only so there's vocal to have Tourette's. It has to persist for, I think, more than six, six months vocal and motor tics. You have to have both. And so that can you know, so that's obviously there is vocal of course you just say what are it a word that you repeat or or that's involuntary. It doesn't have to be repeated. But generally it is And yeah, and then the motor tics, of course, like any movement that's involuntary, that could be as bleep, that could be blinking. But for me, I slap and punch myself in the face. I slap and punch myself in the face. Wow. I've given myself black eyes. I was actually I was when I went to the hospital because I had a I gave myself a black eye because of Tourette's. Um, yeah, it was. It was it was a really awful experience, actually. In fact, when I was there, I was I was there with my ex, who was my wife at the time, and they were asking her if she was okay, if she felt safe at home. No one asked me that. Wow. No one asked me that. They asked that. They asked her if. She felt safe, but not me. I had the black eye and she's six foot one. She. I'm 510. But anyway, well, well. 

Rich Bennett 8:24
Well, so. All right. So you paint your your head against the wall. Did you end up getting a concussion from that? 

Kristof Morrow 8:30
No, no, no, I didn't. I didn't hit it hard enough, but. Okay. Yeah, but it was it was it was an awful experience. It was awful experience. 

Rich Bennett 8:41
Yeah. I mean, just hearing it, it sounds awful. 

Kristof Morrow 8:44
The worst like what compounded that was that they, they did a spinal tap and that's where they for. Yeah. For those that don't know, it's like they stick a needle into your spine and they draw out cerebral spinal fluid to test it for any kind of infection or whatever. The problem is that if they do, if the physician that performs that does it incorrectly or just by chance, it just happens, you can actually like perforate something and like you start leaking cerebrospinal fluid and so you and you feel it in your brain, but you don't feel any worse. And you cannot you can't stand straight up when you're when you have that happening. I walked around for like a week, like I had to walk like like this, like. 

Rich Bennett 9:28
Hunched over. 

Kristof Morrow 9:29
Hunched over because I couldn't raise my head because my because because of the way I think because your brain floats in the cerebral spinal fluid. And it's like and if there's I, I don't know if this is the way. I can't remember if a physician told me this or if I just made this up. But it it hangs. Then instead of floating, it hangs a little bit. It's not or something it causes it causes you pain. It's really awful. It's really awful. I figured they. 

Rich Bennett 9:59
Would find a better something better to do besides that, then. 

Kristof Morrow 10:03
Hmm. Yeah, well, that is the thing. That's the only way, though. That's the only way. Cause otherwise you have to do a like with prions and a couple of other things. You can only do it postmortem, and you have to. You can only. Yeah, you have to go to the brain that way. 

Rich Bennett 10:17
So I. With the Tourette's is the black eye the worst injury you've had? 

Kristof Morrow 10:21
No, not even close. No, not even close. The worst. The, the worst tics I've had. Or is the ones that are for about a month. I was clenching my teeth and I was going to shatter my own teeth. So I had to wear like I had to wear like, a guard and stuff. And I had to be like, medicated so that I wouldn't do that. And then I had a tic where I would like slam my foot on the ground. And so I can't you can't walk when you do that. So you just you just you just have to. 

Rich Bennett 10:53
You're slamming it that hard. 

Kristof Morrow 10:54
You can't. Yeah, yeah. You stop. You stop it. Even if you don't do it that hard, you do it all day and you, it really hurts. So it's that, yeah, it's something that I would do like and so I've given let's see, um, you can't really see the difference, but my hand, my right hand is, is quite a is chronically inflamed and I'm not wearing a brace on it right now because I've been wearing it constantly. 

Rich Bennett 11:23
Because of your TikTok videos. You have the brace on. 

Kristof Morrow 11:26
Yeah, but I'm not wearing it right now because I've been wearing it for two, for two months, so I have to take it off every now and then. 

Rich Bennett 11:31
I was going to say, May you got this glaze you go through sometimes. 

Kristof Morrow 11:36
Wow, that's. 

Rich Bennett 11:38
Holy Cancer with Tourette's is I mean, you mentioned medication that they have your medication, but are there any like support groups or anything for that? 

Kristof Morrow 11:47
MM This was funny. I tried to join a support group 

for the Canadian Tourette's Organization, which is like, I think, a an extension of the American one. Tourette's. Okay. America, I, I contacted them, but nobody ever wrote me. Well, they didn't write me back. And then I wrote them again. And then someone did write me back and said, Oh, we need to schedule an interview to make sure you're a good fit for the support group and say, okay. And then they said, We'll schedule it for later this week. And then I just never heard from them again. And then I wrote them again and they didn't answer me again. And so I was just like, I give up. I gave up trying to join a support group. Um. 

Rich Bennett 12:31
Wow. Yeah. Well, you know, what? Have you looked online to see if there's any? Because I know, you know, you have a lot of different, you know, groups online together, whether it be through Zoom or whatever. 

Kristof Morrow 12:44
I honestly think that I would probably formulate my own because it's a good idea. I, I feel like I would be a healthy moderator for a situation like that. And I don't know. 

Rich Bennett 12:53
I don't need you should. 

Kristof Morrow 12:55
I don't need to rely on somebody. I have a I have something resembling a platform, a modest platform, but a platform nonetheless that I can write, I can recruit from, in a sense. 

Rich Bennett 13:04
Now, okay, Now, you mentioned Canada, but you're from the United States, right? 

Kristof Morrow 13:08
Oh, yeah. Border is Houston around Houston, Texas. 

Rich Bennett 13:11
Okay. Okay. So if you don't mind me, ask you what took you What was it that brought you to Canada? 

Kristof Morrow 13:17
Man? So many things, honestly, right? I mean, I. Love adventure, right? So, yeah, I'm all. About like, I've lived all over. Like, I lived in New York, Florida. I lived around Chicago. Of course, I'm the Oklahoma, Texas, Louisiana. 

Yeah, a lot of places. But I've been what. 

Rich Bennett 13:37
Part of Canada. 

Kristof Morrow 13:38
Now I live. In. I lived in Alberta for the first and then I live in British Columbia now. Now I live on the far west. 

Rich Bennett 13:44
Nice. 

Kristof Morrow 13:44
Yeah, I live around Vancouver 

and it's like Jurassic Park over here. I like the foliage. You know, saying, No, look, it's so green. It's so green, but it's like it's like a prehistoric green because look at that fern. No lizard. They got leaves. They got leaves. That are like this big, like the those maple leaves that look like, you know, like the Canadian made. They're, they're it's like seriously, it's like some dinosaur we. Saw in the States. It's some dinosaur stuff, man. Like, you think that's. New and it's like they didn't have to change. They had to change. All these millions of years later. 

Rich Bennett 14:18
One of these days, I'm going to make it up there. I have some friends that live up there. They keep saying, Rich, you got to get up. 

Kristof Morrow 14:23
It's beautiful. Yeah, that's. 

Rich Bennett 14:25
Right. That's what I've heard. 

Kristof Morrow 14:26
That's why it's the nice thing. It's the weather's nice. 

Rich Bennett 14:30
Seeing a lot of people would think it's just cold all the time. And that's not the case. 

Kristof Morrow 14:34
It's. It's war. It's actually the opposite. It's warm all the time. It's. Yeah, it doesn't get cold here. It's that cold. 

Rich Bennett 14:40
So with the. With the turrets. Yeah. Because earlier with the introduction we mentioned about the parental abuse, do you think any of that could have caused the Tourette's. 

Kristof Morrow 14:54
Oh absolutely, yeah. Okay. So okay. Yeah. If you ever I feel. Like it's a product of a it's so true. I think that I've partly Tourette's is instigated by having a predisposition for OCD in the first place. So you're obsessive by nature. And then to give cause to that obsession with extreme violence and to say so your brain applies that predisposition that that seems to be a healthy way to cope and prevents, you know, more injury and price. Yeah. And so yeah, I feel like I yeah I feel like it it just concretize is really unhealthy ways for your brain to cope and yeah you get you eventually get the Tourette's. 

Rich Bennett 15:45
So if you know mommy ask you you know growing up what type of abuse did you face. 

Kristof Morrow 15:50
Um so a lot. Of my kids thought it was physical and. Physical. Verbal, emotional is everything. My, my mom, she like, she told me she's told me she has cancer. She's heart attack, stroke. So I don't know what she's got. Like, I don't. I don't. I don't talk to her. Oh, wow. And then my, my dad, he's a he he, he was an alcoholic. As long as as far as as long as I've known him. And he was really violent. 

Really violent. And like, he would like to the point where he would hurt himself, hurting me like, you know, like he would, like, hurt his hand. He would like, you know, I he would hit me so hard. Yeah. And so, like, and and like, even to this day, I can't like people touching my back or slapping my back too hard because he'd be like, he would be so drunk. He hit me on the back really hard and, like, been I mean, I have a, I have a i, I the fact that I was a child and I have a story about barbed wire like is not really is not is not something that you want to talk about like you're not talking about. I mean it's not something like it's not something that a kid should have, you know. What? 

Rich Bennett 17:01
Are you okay? You have to tell me about this. No barbed wire. 

Kristof Morrow 17:06
Yeah. So I was when I was a little kid, my dad was working in the pasture, and I. I wanted to climb through the. The barbed wire fence to go. 

Rich Bennett 17:17
Oh, so you grew up on a farm? 

Kristof Morrow 17:18
Yeah. Okay. The first. Yeah, for the first nine years. Yeah. Okay. So he was out in the pasture. He's dealing with the cattle, so I went to go help him, but I slipped and the barbed wire cut me in the leg. Right. And so I, I cried as a dad, but I, he, he started screaming at me that he told me not to do that. He told me not to go. And instead of like helping me get out of it, they just started beating me and that it cut through my leg. Yeah, I have a big I have a big old scar because it just kept, you know. 

Rich Bennett 17:52
Anyway he's. 

Kristof Morrow 17:53
Yeah. And he. Yeah. And then I guess he realized what was happening because I was bleeding everywhere and so like, I didn't go to the hospital or anything. You know. What. Yeah, I, yeah. I didn't even go to that. I actually didn't even go to the dentist for the first time till I was 16. 

Rich Bennett 18:08
Oh, yeah. 

Kristof Morrow 18:10
And I found, I found. Out like only a month ago. The only reason we went is because my mom had tooth pain. So. Are you serious? Yeah, I'm. I feel. I feel like it's. Like the story is. It sounds so made up. It's all this other bad stuff you can't imagine. 

Rich Bennett 18:26
All right, wait a minute. So I. Because when you went into the Navy, you, they did they do that first physical. 

Kristof Morrow 18:32
Mhm. 

Rich Bennett 18:34
Where I mean how is everything then. Because you, I'm sure you had the scar. They had to look at your teeth. Well you're 16 when you went to Denny's. All right, so you all right, so you're fine then. 

Kristof Morrow 18:44
Yeah. 

Rich Bennett 18:45
I. Wow. Okay. Holy cow. So with the because you, 

you had overcome alcohol yourself. 

Kristof Morrow 18:55
Yeah. 

Rich Bennett 18:56
Do you think that you drink. It was, uh. It could have been because of your father being an alcoholic. I mean, some people say it's hereditary, so it is not. 

Kristof Morrow 19:08
I think it is. It's just. Allowing, like, a lot of it is just 

is just it being, I think, is being normalized in your life. So alcohol is normalized in your life. So you have no aversion to it. It's just like. So no, naturally, like I do the heroin, right? Like if I think about zero. Like, oh. You know, but I don't have that reaction to alcohol. I never have. And I think most people don't. Right. And so they just don't like I think it's a combination of that. I think it's a combination of genetics and its availability. Yeah. And so you that you have those factors and then on top of that, you apply grief of loneliness, you apply the grief of life and of, of or the hour of the reversal celebration. And they're like too much celebration, I don't know. Right? It's one of those things that you begin to develop habits. Yeah. 

Rich Bennett 20:06
How did you overcome it, though? The alcohol? 

Kristof Morrow 20:09
You know, I think like every other alcoholic, there's like there's a there's many ways they try to we try to justify continuing. We so like, we switch different substances, you know, like, oh, I'm only going to drink wine now or I'm only going to drink and then you just drink more, whatever it is. Yeah. And so what it was, was like I was sort of destroying my life 

in a very consequential way. Yeah. And so, uh, I quit. I said, I said, okay, I, I, I quit cold turkey. 

Rich Bennett 20:50
Cold turkey. Wow. 

Kristof Morrow 20:51
I had. And then what I felt then and then I was symptomatic of alcohol withdrawals. So I had to I had to buy like a bottle of wine and like I tapered off and then I would quit for good. And then I have a drink is a nice. 

Rich Bennett 21:07
Yeah, well, congratulations, first of all, on that. How many years do you know? 

Kristof Morrow 21:12
Um. I quit January 6th, 

2017. 

Rich Bennett 21:19
Nice. Congratulations, man. That's awesome. So I something before we get into the book, because this I just find this amazing. So you have Tourette's and you mentioned OCD as well, right? A Correct me if I'm wrong, I thought I saw the song You Tik-Tok video, one of your TikTok videos, ADHD as. 

Kristof Morrow 21:40
Well, right? No. Yeah, I got all the ones I co-morbid except dyslexia. 

Rich Bennett 21:45
All right, women, how many different disabilities? 

Kristof Morrow 21:47
So not only have I have ADHD, OCD, anxiety, depression, I think most people have ADHD, OCD, anxiety, depression and Tourette's. That's it. I think. 

Rich Bennett 21:59
That's it. Okay. So which in the threat you got when you were in the Navy? Yeah. You got medical medically discharged, Correct. Okay. But it was after the Navy that it correct me if I'm wrong, but after the Navy, you became an EMT. 

Kristof Morrow 22:15
Mm. 

Rich Bennett 22:16
And a911 dispatcher And. 

Kristof Morrow 22:18
Then, and I would especially like. Okay, later. Yeah. 

Rich Bennett 22:21
Sure. Because a lot of people, you know, with disabilities like that would say, Oh, God, you know, I ain't got a shot in hell. But again, you're proof that you that you do. So were there any challenges with that? Yeah. When you went, you become an EMT and then the 911 dispatcher, Especially with the Tourette's. 

Kristof Morrow 22:42
Yeah. DISPATCHER That's this was funny that when I was an EMT, it had manifested, really. So I okay, I wasn't really experienced. I wasn't symptomatic of it. But when I got into no one dispatching, I was 

and like, it's actually quite it's quite challenging because the problem is that you don't know what's going to happen. So like, I have a cat and her and she circles the sparkles. Is, Oh yeah. Oh, 

I thought you did that 

sparkle. I can't be near. Her face or her her ears. I have to be careful about that because I can scream. 

Rich Bennett 23:25
Really? 

Kristof Morrow 23:26
Oh. I've taken a scream in her ear and. Yeah. 

Rich Bennett 23:31
Wow. Okay, so as a dispatcher, I mean, how long were you doing that for? 

Kristof Morrow 23:38
I only did that for, like, seven months. And then I had a bad okay, I had a bad call. And, uh, like a woman, the the mom came in, like, a week later to. To say thank you to everybody. 

Yeah, I'm. I'm the one that met her in the lobby, and she, I was like, I took that call, and that was messed up. She gave me a hug and she apologized and. 

Rich Bennett 24:08
As I say, I mean, that's got to be a hard job. I mean, these are hard job. Yeah, but the 911 dispatcher, you're hearing everything. Yeah. 

Kristof Morrow 24:17
It's that's something you'll never forget. I guess it's really just because people cannot be cannot help but to be themselves entirely and in situations that are so 

overwhelmingly life changing. Right. 

They just they just surrender to their own their own like it was like you hear, oh, I yeah. Yeah. 

Rich Bennett 24:45
And the thing it's amazing you know, from that you, you don't one of the things you don't have is PTSD, right. 

Kristof Morrow 24:52
No I. Oh I, Oh yeah. 

Rich Bennett 24:54
That too. I mean of course, I mean. 

Kristof Morrow 24:56
Like but that's, but that's like, you know, I feel like PTSD just manifests in the way that my age like it all my other what. I Yeah. Yeah so like I, I have it and so there's some stuff like obviously like I was telling you earlier like I can't people can't touch my back and things like that because it freaks out. I had that. I have a goddamn panic attack, you know? So it's just a yeah, so I mean, it's but again, it's like, uh, it's just a bout of it's just something I think a lot of people deal with some extent. Right? And they actually had to tell you I was actually going to tell you speak, speak. You know, it's 

people that a a a natural disaster that causes like an earthquake, whatever recovery rates from PTSD are much higher following those events because there's a unity, there's a community coming together to memorialize is to sort of discuss like to to to cope with everyone sort of is in that situation together. But when something happens to you alone, that's why support groups are so critical. It's not it's not really because you just if you if you're in a support group and you're conscientious of what's going on, you realize that like that movie Fight Club, everyone was just waiting for their turn to speak. Yeah, but it's just it's not really about speaking your self. It's just about being in the presence of other people. That's the healing part, your brain. It's. It's. It's more subconscious than it is deliberate. 

Rich Bennett 26:25
Okay. Huh? So after the 911 part, that's when you became a journalist, right? 

Kristof Morrow 26:31
Mm hmm. 

Rich Bennett 26:32
Okay. What type of awards did you win? 

Kristof Morrow 26:36
I won an award for a feature writing. 

Rich Bennett 26:39
And explain what feature writing is. 

Kristof Morrow 26:41
Yeah, it's feature. So you feature a person, you feature a business, you feature an event, it features a So like you generally it's a person. So I wrote about a guy named Ray Janek who had a neurological condition. And so similar to myself, he lost control of, of his hands. And so he, he rehabilitated himself doing leather working. 

It was the only story that I put any, I think, out of sincere effort into, because it was I mean, it was something it was something, right? It was this. Otherwise I was doing small town journalism. So I, I gave it a sincere effort. I actually had never written a feature before, so. Oh, wow. I had to look up. I Googled how to write a feature, and then I saw of I saw that I realized I should just look up a writer that I admired. And I did. And I studied their format of a feature that they wrote, and I just applied to my own. And then I won an award for that. And then. 

Rich Bennett 27:44
Plus photography. 

Kristof Morrow 27:45
Yeah, and photography. I won an award for photography for Hurricane Harvey. There was a woman being yeah, I was there to the hurricane and wow. Yeah, they the a woman was being a rescued from a church. Okay. Yeah. 

Rich Bennett 28:07
You got the shot of that. 

Kristof Morrow 28:08
I got a photograph of that. Yeah. 

Rich Bennett 28:10
Well, is there anything you haven't done? 

Kristof Morrow 28:12
Oh, 

I'm not like visual arts. I'm like, really bad it. I can, I can recognize it. I can recognize good visual art, but I can't. I can't write it myself. I can't produce it myself. I have no imagination for that. So let's use. 

Rich Bennett 28:26
What was it that when was you you decided you wanted to write a book? 

Kristof Morrow 28:31
Well, I think I've always admired the notion of writing a book because of if you've read, you read all this book like Lord of the Rings and all that stuff, it's source material, right? You look at it, it's really what it is, a source material like it's a story. Of course it's charming and it's brilliant, but it's it's also source material because it provides like a very thorough foundation, comprehensive foundation for something that that can reach more people, which is like movies. I think the movies I love, I actually watch more movies and TV shows, and I read a lot more on this. 

Rich Bennett 29:12
I'm the same way they look. 

Kristof Morrow 29:15
It's the medium. The medium is just it has everything. It is everything I can. Yeah. 

Rich Bennett 29:19
And so I the funny thing is, it's still true, though. Most of these movies, the books are better. 

Kristof Morrow 29:24
The books are better. Yeah. The. But yeah, yeah, yeah. Because I feel like once people try to find a way to invest themselves, like the more nuance to their understanding, like, the more the more inspiring, the more exciting it is. 

Yeah. And so for me, 

writing is probably I forgot. I forgot what we were saying. 

Rich Bennett 29:52
About writing a book. 

Kristof Morrow 29:54
Oh, 

well, so when. 

Rich Bennett 29:58
You decided when you decided you wanted to write the book. 

Kristof Morrow 30:00
Oh, okay. So it's just as a kid, like I always. So John Steinbeck is who you guys don't know? Some of you don't know of Grapes of Wrath of Mice and Men. East of Eden. The East of Eden is my favorite book. I think. Wow. And it's and it's 225,000 words. And to me, if you've read the book, it feels it feels like it explores every part of of us. It's it's a perfect it for me. It's a flawless human study and truly is like it just it's just it's really 

relentless in that sense. And so I was I've always I've always admired that not just the length of the book, but also the fact that it really does explore like generational trauma and just all kinds of stuff. It's just everything. And like humans in that really hurts. It's like really that wounds us in our children. 

And so the thing about wanting to be a writer is that you have to you have to marry all the different things that you know to create a story. And a lot of writers are challenged by this because they you have to put in the effort to learn a lot, to make those learned connections that are that inspire that, that excite you. So getting into writing a book and things like that, the only way that you're going to get into it is if you see connections that you feel like that that are that are unique and that that really demonstrate your intellect and demonstrate an understanding that that is that can be appreciated. So writing is for me has been a very long period of doing that, a learning of of, of developing 

my encyclopedia in my head so that whenever I did write a story, I could go, oh, I could say, Oh, this happens in the book. And it's really fun that I made it. Six layers of complexity. It's really fun. So it's, you know, it's just, yeah, So I've always wanted to write. No. 

Rich Bennett 32:14
Did I Now it correct me if I'm wrong, the title of the book is The Second Son, but it's volumes one and two, right? 

Kristof Morrow 32:25
Yeah. 

Rich Bennett 32:26
But didn't you also write another book as well? Like it's almost like a children's book. Yeah, I did. Yeah. Okay. 

Kristof Morrow 32:33
Yeah, I did. It's called Liam Earns a Friend. It's a Christmas book. It's just. Yeah, it's a really cute little book about a little boy that. That finds a dinosaur egg. And then they discover the mother. She lost all of her babies except that one egg that the boy found. So she takes her egg back as she. And, you know, so it's a whole thing of like, grief and everything. So he lets the mother take the egg back. And the egg is born into a baby dinosaur. And because the mom's worried about her baby being a runt and dying, you know, she doesn't let them play together. So the little boy earns their friendship by bringing them presents and being thoughtful in many ways and then bringing that to them so they can all play together. And that's a whole thing. 

Rich Bennett 33:21
Now, you wrote that before the second son, right? 

Kristof Morrow 33:24
I wrote that after it was it. 

Rich Bennett 33:26
Was it okay? Yeah. 

Kristof Morrow 33:27
It took me like. An hour and a half to write. I wrote. I realize I just wrote it. 

Rich Bennett 33:30
Wow. 

Kristof Morrow 33:31
I wrote it as a Christmas gift for my. My neighbors. 

Rich Bennett 33:36
Oh, okay. Okay. Well, with this our half, she's with the second son. How long did that take to write? 

Kristof Morrow 33:45
So the first drafts was 162,000 words, and it took me two and a half months. 

But I was. I was. Yeah, I was working quite diligently. Yeah. 

Rich Bennett 33:55
Amazing. 

Kristof Morrow 33:56
Right? Yeah, it was impressive. Impressive efficiency. So it which I didn't even realize that I had, I had like deployed the same methods that Steinbeck had done, which is like just to write it, to get it out. Because often you can't, you kill, you're not going to be able to explore in a way that's sufficient. Like all of the different things that you're talking about in the book. So because that of that stuff needs to simmer, you know? 

Rich Bennett 34:24
And what is the second son about. 

Kristof Morrow 34:26
The second son? It's like like I was talking about what needs to be done. It's really I tried to be full in my human study. So it is about empire, it's about rebellion. It's about it's about everything that often that we often struggle with. Like if you can split the difference in content between Lord of the Rings and Game of Thrones, just imagine a middle ground between those two in terms of violence. In terms of Yeah, because I think that game I love Game of Thrones just as much as everybody else. So at the end, except for the end. Sorry. Is everything right? 

Rich Bennett 35:04
I never all there I never I never saw the end yet. 

Kristof Morrow 35:08
No that's. Well, you don't need to. Okay. You don't need to. It's just going to tarnish. This is going to tarnish what you feel about it. And so anyway, and that's another thing. So we're saying anyway, so the book is about it's about a literal paradise and people that live there when they're living in their second life, it's supposed to be an allegory for people that are living in retirement age now and they can live. They live in a financial paradise and in a in a real in an almost very real paradise, in a sense, because of like the ability to own homes and the ability to like, you know, have recreation and write and all the emotional that comes with security in that sense. And this literal paradise in this little paradise, the people, when you die, you you bury yourself with the seed of whatever kind of plant you want to become, and you become that plant in your second life. And you live for now. Yeah, you live for thousands of years in that form. And the that are born there, they go off and do it, do a pilgrimage. When they get to a certain age and they travel the world and they have these, these animals that they can that they, they train and that pull them around, that's how they're able to get around away from everybody because their animals are massive and they know nobody can catch them. So that's how they're able to do that anyway. But outside of this, paradise is like a Game of Thrones type world, except there's no magic. There's no magic whatsoever. It is just it's like our world. I don't like magic. 

Rich Bennett 36:45
A lot of true fantasy fiction. 

Kristof Morrow 36:47
Yeah. There's no yeah. And I don't like I don't like I'm not really big on magic. So there's very, very, very, very little of it. Okay? It's almost nonexistent to the point where it's almost nonexistent. Yeah. And it's. So you would in fact, you would suspect everything in the book is connected is what I'm going to say. And they're in similar to Game of Thrones, the first chapter of the Game of Thrones series is about Ned Stark, and the second chapter is about Tyrion, and the third chapter is about to nearest her gate. Right? And they they're all different parts of the world, different stories. But they are, they are loosely connected and they converge eventually. That's exact same exact, same story with my book. The first three chapters are about three different parts of the world with different people. There's hundreds of characters with dialogue named. You know, I tried to. I tried. I tried to truly like more than I've seen. I just haven't seen it done, like in a way that I felt was right. Yeah. It's sort of. Outside of Lord of the Rings, right? It's just it's I was I've been, I've been I found it wanting in literature and in prose and the poetry and, and the human study. 

Rich Bennett 38:06
I've had and I've had a ton of authors on here and it seems like a majority of the authors I talked to, their biggest problem that they have is marketing, selling the books. But you did something that I've never heard of. You went for basically zero to thousands of books overnight. Do you explain to everybody how you did that? 

Kristof Morrow 38:29
So 

the way that I it it's a philosophy that I that's pretty I have applied it to every part of my author life. Okay. So I don't I, I truly try not to exploit people's emotions at all. So I just tell them straight. Like, for example, my book is is as cheap as it can be. The digital version. I made it as cheap as I possibly could in every part of the world in the Amazon market that I could make. And the paperback version is the same story. So I only make money from the hardcover version so people first. That's the first bit of evidence that lends credibility to the notion that I'm not trying to take advantage of them because that kind of money is gone. The second thing is that I you have to as a person with Tourette's, I discussed on my TikTok account when I opened it. When I started it, I actually got banned, like right away because of my Tourette's. Are you serious? Yeah, I got banned right away. And so I had to I had to do a whole thing, and it was a whole appeal. And they got. Yeah. So my first video is how my first video that survived. Was Take me like I got banned already. There's already a bad one. And talking about my Tourette's and I wanted to establish and and demonstrate like the honest suffering that I that I go through every day and then write whatever. And those things that I that are worthy of celebration, I do those, too. It's not so much about like creating your persona. It's about recognizing your persona and then and then seeing it and seeing that you need to be. Then it's well rounded sort of situation. And so I talked about my Tourette's only and and what that's like, because I felt like that alone was compelling enough to get people's attention. And after that I said, okay, I want to talk about my book. So I started talking about the fact that I wrote a book, and from that someone bought my book who is now a stranger, a total stranger. 

Rich Bennett 40:46
Right? 

Kristof Morrow 40:46
And they loved it. And this this woman, Sandra, she's become very, very dear to me now. And I actually lived I actually moved to live near her because she's she's so wonderful. She's like, yeah, she's like she's like my aunt, a young aunt. 

Okay. Yeah, that's what she was as. She's very she's she's excellent. So I love her to death. Um, yeah. And she. She was, she loved my book and, and she told me so. And she made a video about it. And as a consequence, the next day, two people buy my book, and I made a video about that. Now, here's the other thing. This is a this is key, though. 

I had a a free weekend. I can make my book free for a weekend, which is for like three days or something. It's a it's interesting. Yeah, you can do it. You can only do it like once every few months. Huh? But the way I had to make them, like, line up. So, like, I got to the point where I realized I was like, you know what? If I use this free weekend now and then 

because someone bought my book, maybe more people will buy my book because she made the video. So I put I made it free. And then as a consequence, people did. And then there was it went to it, gotten to 47 on the epic fantasy category. Nice on Amazon. So I mean I am because and partially in part because it was free so I gave it to so let's see after that I made another video to discuss that and that video went viral. That went was 400,000 views. And then I have another one that has like almost 300,000 or 300. It has I think it's 300,000 views now. 

Rich Bennett 42:40
Wow. 

Kristof Morrow 42:41
Yeah. And then a bunch. I've got over a million something on my on all together. 

Rich Bennett 42:46
Nice. 

Kristof Morrow 42:47
Yeah. But it's it's just it's I think that people are looking for authenticity now because they know that people are trying to get money from them for subscriptions. You were like, if you buy a car these days, like you got to buy a separate subscription to get your the heat. See, it's like the heat is. He thought, That's absurd. That's insulting. That's like that is offensive to me for radio. Yeah, it's offensive If you have. 

Rich Bennett 43:13
Sirius XM is like, yeah, you got all you got. Subscribe to that. 

Kristof Morrow 43:17
Yeah. Well yeah. So I just know and I didn't want to be member too that I knew I needed to separate myself from that because otherwise you're just selling something. 

Rich Bennett 43:29
Right? 

Kristof Morrow 43:30
I, my, my work is so much more than like, if I, if they said, like, your book is going to be deleted or you get to give it away for free forever, I would give it away for free forever. I would rather. Yeah. 

Rich Bennett 43:43
Hey, you're already actually you're working on volume three or you finished volume? 

Kristof Morrow 43:48
I'm I'm on volume three right now. It's about it. It's about as long as the first Harry Potter right now. 

Rich Bennett 43:54
Okay. And you're looking for beta readers, right? 

Kristof Morrow 43:57
Yeah, I am. 

Rich Bennett 43:58
I smart? You didn't do that with the first one, did you? 

Kristof Morrow 44:02
Well, I didn't need it. I didn't really need that. I don't need them. Really. I don't. I actually don't need them. I don't need beta readers. I, I, I want them because I it's just, it's, it's more for, like to make sure that I know that it's having the effect to the same to the intensity that I mean it to because and it also yeah and it should feel that there's just a lot that happens the volume three is really crazy so like compared to volumes want to do this it's ridiculous. It's really nuts. Yeah. 

Rich Bennett 44:35
But but that's smart on your part too, because with, with beta readers and this is something I never because I've seen people that, you know, release a book and they already got reviews. They get reviews in a book and I have you get that and it's from beta readers and so first of all, all of you listening the second son, and that's as you end you have to get this and when you do leave a full review because of course that helps sell more books. Actually, I have a question for you. The how does someone can somebody get an autographed copy from you? 

Kristof Morrow 45:10
I think I've done that before. Oh, yeah? 

Rich Bennett 45:12
How did they do that? 

Kristof Morrow 45:14
Well. I have a they could just message me on TikTok or whatever and. Okay. And so talking. 

Rich Bennett 45:23
Instagrams, what you're really heavy on, right? Yeah. 

Kristof Morrow 45:27
Yeah, yeah. Because Yeah. So that's I'll put the links in there so you're very thorough this. I didn't write those. Hello to you really do hard. I'm like yeah well. 

Rich Bennett 45:39
You know so here's the, here's the funny thing and I got to let you know this because, you know, if somebody when I look at people and if they don't have a website, I was like, Oh, I don't want to have them on the podcast because where am I going to direct them to? But with you, like I said, when I looked at your information, is I okay, I got to get him on. But here's something else you did not know that I did not tell you, which is another reason. Now I got to buy the book. You're all right. So short story real quick. My oldest brother was my best friend and my idol. I always idolized him and unfortunately, he passed away every seven years in March. So. And your book, for those of you listening, Crystal's book was released this year. Your book was released on my brother's birthday, February. You first. While according to Amazon. February 19. 

Kristof Morrow 46:34
Oh 90. Yeah, 19th. Yeah. 

Rich Bennett 46:36
19th February 9th. 

Kristof Morrow 46:38
Yeah. 

Rich Bennett 46:39
Okay. It's just like, it's weird. Know everything just lines up. There's like, Oh, yeah, Definitely got to get him on then. Well, I'll definitely go get him. 

Kristof Morrow 46:49
That's amazing. It's kismet. 

Rich Bennett 46:50
Yeah, well, I. Soledad's like, Yeah. T-Bone, what is it? You got to talk to. 

Kristof Morrow 46:56
His ass, man. T-Bone I love that. His name is Terry, but everybody called him. That's lovely. 

Rich Bennett 47:02
Yeah, but yeah, and that was his trucking name because he was. He was a truck driver. So with it. When are you expecting volume three to come out? 

Kristof Morrow 47:12
Wow. I'm trying to write a lot. I'm a lot more efficient than I used to be in terms of, in terms of producing stuff that won't be have to change very much. When I wrote the first draft of my of the first two volumes that. Wow. I had to rewrite the entire book. I mean, what I say, like, know, I had to rewrite it. I mean like I had to everything stayed the same except the fact that the way it was written, it had to be completely rewritten. It it was yeah. 

Rich Bennett 47:49
The entire only two and a half months. 

Kristof Morrow 47:51
Yeah. Well, no, no, no, no, no, no. That took me a little more than a year to do the rewrite. Okay, so the first draft? Yeah, the first draft took me two and a half months, and then the. The rewrite. The rewrite took me. I mean, you could say it took me up to, like, October, but this year, Right? Yeah. So almost two years altogether. Oh, yeah. 

Rich Bennett 48:13
I mean, it's big. 

Kristof Morrow 48:15
Yeah. 

Rich Bennett 48:16
Yeah. I mean, well, it makes sense that it took that long then. 

Kristof Morrow 48:19
Yeah. Like. Like Lord of the Rings is a 

186,000 words. I think the first one, The Fellowship of the Ring. Right. She's the that's the fellowship of the ring. Mine is 225,000. So it's 40 it's 40,000 words longer than the fellowship of the Ring. 

Rich Bennett 48:35
Oh, my God. 

Kristof Morrow 48:36
Yeah, it's much longer. Yeah, it's. Yeah, it's like if you. It's like one and a half. Yeah, yeah. Two and a half times longer than The Hobbit. 

Rich Bennett 48:44
All right, So. So because you've been on, on several podcasts. Yeah. I mean, embezzle to the podcast, have you ever actually thought about starting your own? 

Kristof Morrow 48:55
I mean, the, the amount, the amount of work that you must do, it does. Take a lot of. Work. Yeah, I have no like, it's so performative too. There's a lot, so much that 

has to be done 

that I just, I, I just don't. 

Rich Bennett 49:15
You want to focus on the writing. Yeah, I. Right. 

Kristof Morrow 49:17
I mean, this is good. My specialty is source material. And I think that most I think in the end I will be vindicated when they say that it was good that he committed himself to that. And didn't write. 

Rich Bennett 49:28
Yeah, yeah. I keep doing that. Now, with your book, is it actually going to be I know it's not available yet, but is it going to be an audio version, you know. 

Kristof Morrow 49:36
Yeah, because I want to in my. In my view I want to I'm going to do it, but it's going to be free. And the reason why is I consider as a person with this is a just with a disability. I considered it accessibility thing. Oh, okay. Yeah. And so it's a yeah, it's, it's, it's just it's only fair. Yeah. In my right. 

Rich Bennett 49:57
Well, we may do all right. Christophe, you got to remember me. You're an entrepreneur. Oh, yeah. Somebody told me that we're so. 

Kristof Morrow 50:06
It's. So if 

you're. 

Rich Bennett 50:09
You're an author preneur so. Well, but I understand to offering the all you know, audio version 

especially for you know, those that can't read and everything that does make sense but yeah people you definitely definitely without a doubt have to buy this book and if you want it autographed, just contact them through TikTok or Instagram. I'll have both of his links in there. Before I get to my last question, is there anything you like to ADD? 

Kristof Morrow 50:42
Hmm. 

Um, no, I don't think so. I mean, other than kindness is good. Kindness is magic, right? 

Rich Bennett 50:53
Yeah, it is for those of you listening, as you know, even a week, Christophe and I can see each other. 

I'd be waiting for sparkles to come on the screen all this time. 

Kristof Morrow 51:04
Oh, really? Yeah. Oh, I don't know. I saw your. 

Rich Bennett 51:08
TikTok the other day where you. It was just like a short clip of him. He was laying in the bed. I was like, Oh, man, that is a cute cat. 

Kristof Morrow 51:15
She. Yes. She's elderly, She's 18. She's. She's obese. She's she's actually lost £5 since she's been with me. She was £23 or £22. Now she's 17, but she's old cat and she's she's harmless. I love her to death. 

Rich Bennett 51:34
Oh, yeah. I watch my neighbor's cat every once in a while. Whenever they go away. I just. I never like cats growing up, but now I just love all animals. And, you know, it's. It's just so. I don't know, just. They feel good. 

Kristof Morrow 51:50
There's this. Subversive flavor. My uncle's like. Just like you, my uncles. Just like you. My Uncle Pepper, he raised. He. And he raised cattle his whole like, as long as I've known he'd been raising cattle and selling and going to the auction and auction off cattle he raised. Now he got a bunch of cattle he can't get rid of because he likes. Them too much. He's an old man. He's the only I and he's. He's named them all. And now he's got it's a six or something. 

Rich Bennett 52:15
I didn't even know they were a thing and I wanted to get one as a pet. But then a find that you can't keep them in the house. And that's what they call them, a micro mini cow. 

Kristof Morrow 52:25
I had never heard. That market. 

Rich Bennett 52:27
Like 36 inches tall. You got that, that. 

Kristof Morrow 52:29
Kind of stuff. I always about that stuff because the way that they induce that often is starvation. Like they starve the animal like they like you're like the average North Korean is like several inches shorter than the average South Korean. And that is literally due to like long like, just like starvation going on for a long time. It you induce like in fact people that survive the the Irish potato famine. Yeah. Children that were born during that time have literally had a different stomach like microbial microbial. And they had a condition actually that was induced by starvation. And so. Wow. Yeah. And so that's what yeah, starvation is a very effective way to make things micro or mini. And that's what they do to micro pigs to make the micro pigs is the same situation. You mean the little potbelly pigs, the people. Yeah. They start, they starve the Yeah, they starve them so that, that when they have the babies, the babies are much smaller. Oh that's messed up. I didn't know that. I mean Yeah. Oh one now they're. Yeah. I mean yeah. The. 

Rich Bennett 53:33
I guess it's the same way with like the pigmy goats and everything too. 

Kristof Morrow 53:36
I don't know. It's, it's, it's really something that like, 

honestly, animals that are like, domesticated, you should be able to just get them from a I don't know where like you just depends on the source. I think you got a pig in the sauce. Okay. If it's a guy on Craigslist, whatever. Love, forget that. Yeah, I do it. Yeah. Like, yeah. Yeah. It can't be your buddy's cousin either. You know? I'm saying, like, Oh, my buddy got to the. 

Rich Bennett 54:06
Yeah, I doing that. All right, So if all the different talking as you've been on, is there anything a host has never asked you that you wish they would have asked you. Yeah. Yeah. So what would be that question and what would be your answer? Oh, look, he's already been practicing. 

Kristof Morrow 54:25
So people, I wanted. To ask that. I'm waiting for it to find out. So many people have written me to describe what the book feels like to them and what it reminds them of and the reviews basically, essentially, um, and invariably that's. Yeah. So 

I've always wanted to ask. 

Rich Bennett 54:49
Great reviews. 

Kristof Morrow 54:50
By the reviews are very flattering, outrageous and flattering. I, I have one friend that who some of the became a friend who said that they didn't know they have a degree in classical literature like they like, like Greek mythology all like yeah and they said they don't know any other work comparable except for Lord of the Rings in the Odyssey. 

Oh, yeah. Really? I have another. Guy. Yeah, I have another guy who is like an aerospace. He's a rocket scientist. He's a literal rocket scientist. His favorite book is The Martian. He says when he says his second favorite book used to be Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy. Now it's my book. 

Rich Bennett 55:32
Really. 

Kristof Morrow 55:33
So yeah, so many people, everyone, everyone that's written me has has compared it to classic literature, like The Greatest Adventures of All Time and I, I it's, it's, I know there's, I mean, I could I assert and agree that it sounds ridiculous, but I put in thousands of hours of work. And so in that sense, I hope that that 

encourages your scrutiny. 

Rich Bennett 56:02
I cannot wait to read it and. I want to thank you so much for coming on, because two things I'm going to be doing after we're done here. Well, our three things are going to be lunch. 

Kristof Morrow 56:13
Yeah, money. 

Rich Bennett 56:15
I'm good. I'm going to definitely purchase your book. But you mentioned another author and I am going. And Amy, I'm going to go purchase. I hope they're available on Amazon. I'm going to go purchases books. John was just a big star. Yeah because East of Eden home I God and of mice I mean I just you mentioned it was East of Eden of Mice and Men and Grapes of Wrath. 

Kristof Morrow 56:44
Mm. 

Rich Bennett 56:45
And the sad thing is, I never read those books. Well, but I've seen the movies, and the movies were from. Oh, of. 

Kristof Morrow 56:51
Course. You see the one with Lieutenant Dan Curiously? Yeah. Yeah. 

Rich Bennett 56:56
Gary Sinise. 

Kristof Morrow 56:57
Gary Sinise? Yeah. He does a lot of stuff with veterans. He's a good guy. Oh, sorry. 

Rich Bennett 57:01
I know he does. A friend of mine does a lot of stuff with him. 

Kristof Morrow 57:03
Yeah. 

Rich Bennett 57:04
Yeah, very Very good guy. And there's a lot of lot of them out there that, you know, thank God they, they, they help the veterans out because, well, let's face it, we our government is not really helping us and we need it. We need to help this crazy. 

Kristof Morrow 57:25
Yeah. 

Rich Bennett 57:26
My my thing is I don't care. And I when I was I was at Camp Lejeune, so, you know, I have to deal with that French water stuff. Oh. 

Kristof Morrow 57:33
Oh, God. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 

Rich Bennett 57:35
I mean, luckily, I heard. 

Kristof Morrow 57:37
About that recently. Yeah, Yeah. 

Rich Bennett 57:39
It started off. They said it was seven different diseases and I think it's up to 21 now. And I had a good friend of mine, 

he contacted me, he was in the hospital on life support for five days. They just he was at home. They found he was incoherent and everything and his pancreas was failing. His blood sugar was at 900. 

And they believe it's because of Kate Bolduan, because we were both stationed down there. 

Kristof Morrow 58:11
That. 

Rich Bennett 58:12
You know, it's it's sad. But anyways, God, look at me. We had this great talk and I bring it down. 

Kristof Morrow 58:18
No, it's great. No, no. It's just to be reflective is a good thing. 

Rich Bennett 58:22
Yeah, that's what they definitely need to do something. It's. 

It's in it for all branches. I mean, we all put our life on the line. Whether you go to war or not, you're. You're still at risk. 

And they need to do more for us. But anyway. 

Kristof Morrow 58:38
Yeah, yeah. You're a marine first before you even your your first job, Right. Well. You're when you're a marine, you're Marine first, and then you're whatever your job is. 

Rich Bennett 58:47
Exactly. 

Kristof Morrow 58:48
Exactly. That's I think that's what they actually say. 

Rich Bennett 58:50
If there is another podcast that I had started, I'm thinking about starting it back up again called Lifetime Oath, where all I did was talk to active military veterans, first responders and all that did hear their stories. But it's you do you take that oath and it's a lifetime. That's why it ain't just the Marine. It's every Marine's, it's every branch. It's a it's a brotherhood. It's a sisterhood. 

Kristof Morrow 59:14
I wrote something which actually 

each okay, it says, 

uh, all rights for when Liberty Wars she commands. We forsake all our coming guns and each lamb of hope so others might enjoy our terrorist reparations. Oh, yeah. I wrote that day. 

Rich Bennett 59:38
Just out of the blue. I adore Veteran's Day. 

Kristof Morrow 59:41
Oh, no. Those. It's like this is part of my work that I'm doing. Wow. That's just something that my book, there's a little bit about that. It's about, you know, heralds of violence and, you know. 

Rich Bennett 59:54
Freedoms that are in. So now there's a fourth thing I got to do now. When I'm done, I get back to write my book, too. 

Kristof Morrow 1:00:01
Yeah, one word at a time. 

Rich Bennett 1:00:04
That's right. 

Kristof Morrow 1:00:07
Hey, Krystal. 

Rich Bennett 1:00:08
Thanks a lot. And stay in touch, brother. I mean, I can't wait for Well, I'm going get this one. And then when VI in three comes out. I'm really looking forward to that too. And, man, I can't wait to a screenwriter contact you and say, Hey, we need to make this into a movie. 

Kristof Morrow 1:00:24
Yeah, I know, right? And then I'm going to stand over them the whole time. Now, it's not good. 

That's terrible. That's why 

people do it. Krystal, thanks a lot, man. Thank you so much. It's.