Mob Life, Betrayal, and Finding Peace: Aiden Gabor’s Remarkable Story

Rich Bennett 0:00
Thanks for joining the conversation where we explore the stories and experiences that shape our world. I'm your host, Rich Bennett. And today, we have a remarkable guest aiding Booker Aden's life is a gripping story of transformation and redemption. As a teenager, he faced a stark choice from DOJ agents a life sentence for his involvement in racketeering, embezzlement, extortion and conspiracy to commit murder or become an undercover agent. His memoir, Conflicting Loyalties My Life as a Mob Enforcer turned DOJ Informant takes us through his violent past, his dangerous role in exposing corruption, and his journey to find peace through the by Baha'i faith while battling ALS. This is a story for anyone fascinated by the mob life, police and political corruption and the pursuit of peace after a life of turmoil. Usually I save this for the end of the show, but I know once you hear Aidan's story, you're going to go out and buy the book anyways. And after you've purchased the book, you knew the routine. Make sure you leave a full review, whether it be on Goodreads or Amazon or wherever else you can leave reviews. So of course it just projects it further up the charts and you can sell more books. After all, he's an entrepreneur now. So how's it going, Aiden? 

Aiden Gabor 1:30
Are you doing service to that today? 

Rich Bennett 1:33
I am hanging in there, keeping busy. For those of you listening, this is recorded on July 3rd. So just, you know, getting ready for all the I don't know what you want to call it, hoopla. 

Yeah. For you. For July, for this long weekend. Yeah, but it is what it is. So I just want to dig right into this. You were just a teenager when the DOJ approached you with that life altering ultimatum, right? 

Aiden Gabor 2:07
Yeah, I was 19. For me. 

Rich Bennett 2:11
So can you take us back to that moment and share what was actually going through your mind when faced with such a drastic decision? 

Aiden Gabor 2:20
They came to me, I was in school, and these two clowns show up at my dorm room and I'm looking underdressed. I'm like, looking at these suits from J.C. Penney, and I'm just like, Whoa, okay. And so they weren't ready to talk. And I. Fleischer a little trinkets. And I said, Ah, yeah, I remember like, when you go for a talk and the person I was going to come kiss my ass, but I. 

Rich Bennett 2:47
Right. 

Aiden Gabor 2:48
Oversample a fishing expedition and figure out what the heck they want. So I said, Sure, I'll go with them. They're from Hungary right now. Right? Yeah. 

Rich Bennett 2:57
Oh, wow. 

Aiden Gabor 2:58
Trade me. So we went to this. Our members are we have a big blue or green ish room for a our like hotels, last restaurant or motel I should say, and all three backs. We went in there, they ordered a copy and a person they were asking was, you know, you know, this was looked like pack it for me. So, hey, we got some great photos. You want to see them? 

Rich Bennett 3:26
Wow. 

Aiden Gabor 3:27
Whatever. So I open it up and there's a picture of me with Eddie, which was the cobbler in the courtroom, which he ran. And then we have my new Dominic Enforcers meal with Mickey, which is another one. But he was a little he was the one that if you went out to get some Mickey was the one that it was all and ends with him. 

Rich Bennett 3:50
Right. 

Aiden Gabor 3:50
And then there's photos of my dad with them because my dad was an associate. And then my my mom, they pictures of my mom. 

Rich Bennett 3:57
Wow. 

Aiden Gabor 3:58
Early retirement and the car stop. So they were telling me, you know, you're looking at jail time looking like seven years with for this new law came out. It's called Rico. I'm on my way to go to college. We go look it up, Grandma. Very well. And I thought, Mr. Bookmaker, whenever you look at the time of your dad's looking at time in prison. And I didn't care about me as much as my mom. My dad, Susie said your mother was going to be pulled in part of the stir. 

Rich Bennett 4:29
That changed everything, 

Aiden Gabor 4:31
It became real, shook out real at that point, because that's where I'm from. Grew up as a mom, was born. I talk 

Rich Bennett 4:39
right? 

Aiden Gabor 4:39
to my mom every day from the day she passed, and I don't think any man out there that says they want is a liar. 

Rich Bennett 4:47
Exactly. 

Aiden Gabor 4:48
And so I basically just, you know. Okay. You know, so know what you do a couple of things. I'm right. Yeah. 

No. I hate to think about. Well, we're going to take you back. You know, so my mind's just all over the place at this point. 

Rich Bennett 5:09
Right? 

Aiden Gabor 5:10
So they 

Rich Bennett 5:10
Yeah, 

Aiden Gabor 5:10
took 

Rich Bennett 5:10
Especially 

Aiden Gabor 5:10
me. 

Rich Bennett 5:11
at 19. 

Aiden Gabor 5:12
Yeah. I mean, of course, I never heard of it. So they. They 

Rich Bennett 5:15
Yeah. 

Aiden Gabor 5:15
sent me back. So we'll come back to what you think about it. And we got somebody we need to review and. 

So I went back two months. I was told I could meet a plain white shirt when I was playing football. I was doing everything right, Army Archerd. So I looked up and I was looking at this Rico thing and it was just everybody informed. Going to jail for there is like, No, really. They put you together with that. And I didn't know 

Rich Bennett 5:42
Wow. 

Aiden Gabor 5:42
at the time. So we come back with them. I said, okay, you know, I don't care about my father in the Army, but they're talking about my mother. And I said, What do you need me to do? And all they said to me, here, this is what we need to do. We need your party out of school, and we'll give you money to just go, go. Pluto's college, Girls, go do this. When you get back home, we'll set up something. Talk to you. So that that's what I did. I started it up prepared my plan from your sold your was very very. 

Rich Bennett 6:14
Yeah. 

Aiden Gabor 6:15
And I point out I flunked out of school and then I got home and they're like, okay, so we're working our way from right where we met at a afterwards we met at a place and they said, Well, this is what we want you to do. We will teach you to become a police officer in this town. 

Rich Bennett 6:34
Huh? 

Aiden Gabor 6:35
You ship me out? It's a joke, right? No, no, you don't know, but you need to get on. That was the only resort from here. You need to get on with. Let you know once you get out. We want you to do so. And I'm like. They 

Rich Bennett 6:51
Wow. 

Aiden Gabor 6:51
said, well, this is the choices you have because we could still take this. This is like I mean, I you know, I did reading where it was big, stupid and naive. You know, being young, I worked hard. 

I went home and told. 

Rich Bennett 7:04
Wow. 

Aiden Gabor 7:05
Mother and father that I'm dropping out of school and my 

Rich Bennett 7:08
Oh. 

Aiden Gabor 7:09
mom and dad are looking. My dad's like, What? What do you say? I said, I don't want to be in. It's just not for me. Well, where you're playing football or where you are. I'm just not what I was. What are you going to do? I want to be a cop. Yeah. Part. It's like you're going to be a fucking flatfoot. 

You don't talk to your partner there for ten years. 

Rich Bennett 7:36
Wow. 

Aiden Gabor 7:36
Many years after that, my mother, Kim, said, you know, what are you doing? And I'm like, I just want to do just what you want with everything else. This is what you want to do. And I'm like, Yeah. 

Rich Bennett 7:49
So they knew your parents already knew you were involved with the mob, 

Aiden Gabor 7:53
You know, I didn't quite tell them because what it had all started when I was young and we used to write gatherings 

Rich Bennett 8:02
right? 

Aiden Gabor 8:02
and my family had like a barbecue where at the time, you know. It's more having, you know, mustard, all you having, you know, everything else in there. You know, we had spaghetti and, you know, you grandma was so pretty. Old country would come in and cook. 

Rich Bennett 8:17
Mm 

Aiden Gabor 8:17
And 

Rich Bennett 8:17
hmm. 

Aiden Gabor 8:18
it was awesome. I mean, and then I just started, you know, basically, I'll go get me a drink, and you idiot. And tell you it was all respect you. You told 

Rich Bennett 8:26
Yeah. 

Aiden Gabor 8:27
your will especially a very. Yes. You don't ever you want to say, Hey, do me a favor, ride your bike over, got some stuff for you. So I was like nine going on ten be ago. 

Rich Bennett 8:36
Wow. 

Aiden Gabor 8:37
I went to my mom and I was going to play. I show up at the shop and I would, you know, they said, take this here. Don't look at it. Don't do anything. Just go straight there. If they give you some money, bring your bag back and don't look at it. I would go ride my bike with this thing, and most of them were either politicians or be law enforcement or other businesses. 

Rich Bennett 9:00
Right. 

Aiden Gabor 9:00
And I would bring them back and they would give me 30, 40 bucks. At the time I go to a candy store. My buddies are a king getting candy. 

Rich Bennett 9:07
Yeah. 

Aiden Gabor 9:08
And then my mom's like, Well, what are you doing? Oh, really? In terms of the sharp, sweeping, I go and sweep and do things around the shop. Nikki would be there. Nikki was the guy that taught me, and he taught me how to drive when I was all my time there. Nikki taught me, This is how you shoot a gun's photography. He showed me how to use an ice pick. This is where you do it. And with an ice pick, you can stab some. 

Rich Bennett 9:32
They. 

Aiden Gabor 9:32
Times you can just stab them and then drop and go and leave them because they're not going to come after you and they will go through a breast not thinking of the time. But what does he mean by this? So. 

Rich Bennett 9:42
Right. 

Aiden Gabor 9:42
For me, how to use this is the best thing because it would be ridiculous even going to cheap. And to this day, I carry a gun and an ice pick on me at all times. And it's just I mean, you know, I've had several. 

Rich Bennett 9:56
You're used to it. 

Aiden Gabor 9:58
Here. I'll put some. Should happen. Over to you. 

Rich Bennett 10:00
Yeah. 

Aiden Gabor 10:01
That's kind of where I am, where I am now with the hiding of everything. And so therefore, that all started an effort to use them against me and. 

Rich Bennett 10:10
Wow. 

Aiden Gabor 10:11
When I met back up with the two clowns and I'm looking at them, they're telling me, okay, Grandma's department saw one of them. There was never a What happens if we don't get person get on. And at that time, if you're physically fit and you weren't an idiot, you could pass the test. You could pass a physical. I would drag an arm. And when I got I remember a couple of months after we got back home and all this, I remember being they say, okay, we have a piece of fruitcake as being a hit man. And after slapping them, like, Seriously, 

Rich Bennett 10:45
Who? 

Aiden Gabor 10:45
you want me to. This is why you want me to get out of check out this guy? Yeah, I go tomorrow, work. I go. Do I know? Because. No, I don't think so. So our guy, my arm members, like, you know, the roll call. And I'm sitting there and. Everybody's like, this guy was the person with the most abrasive personality that you just, you know, you talk to and you want to punch him. He's just that much American at That was him, you know, primarily the loner. And I thought, okay, so I got to get close to this guy. So I would want to be his partner as a new recruit shooting me. Where are you going with this? Guys, maybe. Oh, he might be a good guy. So we still go out to dinner? And then out to. Actually go out for drinks and we go to a party and kind of, you know, at the bars and the pizza places. And I got close to them and that's where I started. For me, becoming alcohol at school kind of started. But when I started in this next adventure, wrote to some of my demise later on. 

But I got close with Gary and he looked at me because I know, you know, I'm thinking I had no idea. He goes, I'm remembering Debbie. And I go, okay, we don't we don't need to broadcast this shit, you know? It's not like it's break yet. No, I was just never arrested. And he's like, Yeah, you know what I want to do? I'm going with the crew up this way and I'm trying to think I don't really know too many. I mean, we've crossed paths with other with other crews. You don't poach in our area. We don't poach yours. 

Rich Bennett 12:21
Right. 

Aiden Gabor 12:21
Bullshit. So he kept talking because Harry, I'm are trapped for several months at married for months. You start talking, you got to night each time. You know, I did a couple of hits for these guys and hands are right you just gross thing about it. You understand me? You promised him I could trust with the ship because you've done what I. That's why I think we're good together. Well, one night his wife's crying and she was just all I was, you know, low. And I'm like, you know, you fucked me. You know what he did? He told me what you do. Like, you need to shut the fuck up. You just need to control yourself, too. So she walked to his house when they were getting drunk, and she's doing the same thing. And I told, Shut up about it. Nobody needs to know it. She's just like it's tearing her up. So the next hour we met with those are one and two. I kind of said, you know, hey, guys, you know, you want the information. Because supposedly he told me during this whole thing is you're not going in undercover. You're going in as an informant. There's a difference. You have no backup. So stop him. 

Rich Bennett 13:24
Oh, shit. 

Aiden Gabor 13:24
You. If something happens, you owe. Well, but you're not technically an undercover agent. Because I could have any team. Nobody helping. You're going on your own. Bring. All we want is information. And we want you go. And if you get in trouble, call up. You know, I think I look at it as his very first make an estate agent gets killed or. 

Rich Bennett 13:43
Yeah. 

Aiden Gabor 13:45
That's how I know now. Really think about it. So I'm sitting there. I bring me back to the pump. The wife, she's done it. She comes you voluntarily. He tells you that you could use this shit. And they're like, Really? Yeah. So what happened is one day I'm at home, we got a phone call, so a big deal. They're all over this department. They're all. We're all here in numbers. I gather your body's getting out of my body. Oh, sure. So couple of guys got to department. So at that point, I'm up to department two. They told me, Now you're done. So I told them. I answered, Why do you want me to testify against this guy? You know what he told me goes, No, no, because that's one and done. We have some other plans for you. We're not gonna. So. 

Rich Bennett 14:27
Oh, 

Aiden Gabor 14:28
We just want the information and it worked out. So, Dan, getting this athletes was a pretty good feeling for me that they put this asshole in the. He got you know for a to crimes his wife 

Rich Bennett 14:38
right. 

Aiden Gabor 14:39
turned him remember all this shit so you know he got his life sentence and stuff and so Mcsharry saying they gave me a month or two later to stop. They were paying me their give me money and they came, I'm up again and they said, We want you to give us out on another department. Oh, my gosh, what an extra apartment where I grew up it. 

Rich Bennett 15:02
Oh, shit. 

Aiden Gabor 15:03
To Adam. I go, you assholes, I go. Are you really keen? I grew up there. Well, you know, they know you, you know, do some politicians and all this. I thought I'd be warm and bring in money to. I remember seeing him in the shop. Remember? One day? Ah, yes. Want to run or go? You, please. I was the only short news show. Nixon was this guy. You shall need you ever need, you know, of law with every of them. So you know, we were on the tape. So I'm like, you're kidding me. So same thing I get out of the department. Took me a little bit, and then they started getting the idea. And then, well, my time where I'm I was in with the mayor and I knew the mayor and he's like. And then the commissioner came. Yes, sir. You got a total on I go. What sort of goes you got to like, do what you need to get done. Do it. Told me. So where we give you? Do you tell me you all do it. I am here. I want to be on the department. So I go to report Negroes have some shit when I go on. What the hell's going on? But I want to be, you know, I. That's what I want to do, America. All right? You want to. That's how I really got on the department is now they figure they had another one in there that they could use to their advantage socially. Someone that's done things that they know. 

Rich Bennett 16:21
Right now. 

Aiden Gabor 16:23
So I got an apartment that ran in my almost 15 years there, 12 and there are only 13 or 14 year, but 15 years, 14 plus years. I never put it that way. Politicians, commissioners and several police officers were all between racketeering to you name it. Drugs every. 

Rich Bennett 16:46
They. 

Aiden Gabor 16:49
It was never really give me information on these crimes. 

Rich Bennett 16:53
But you started as an informant at, what, 19 or were you 20 at the time? 

Aiden Gabor 16:57
Well, when they got, they gave me time. So I won't break time. I want dollars just over 20 because I. 

Rich Bennett 17:04
Okay. 

Aiden Gabor 17:05
I was behind a couple of years in school, so I, 

I ended up going to Academy just at 21. And so after I started really with them in between 19 when they approached me and then I had a year, almost a year to get myself out of school. And then they came up with what they are wanted to do. But, you know, I think they really wanted to work it to where if somebody said, Hey, well, some this guy show up, you know, from private school or party or out of school. 

Rich Bennett 17:35
Right? 

Aiden Gabor 17:36
And, you know, he came from a background, but, you know, after years when I was over there in Japan, the information was going to tell you anything. 

Rich Bennett 17:45
Yeah. 

Aiden Gabor 17:45
And I thought eventually when I was in there that maybe this is over, I could maybe become, you know, because I was starting to enjoy these guys where you can. I figured, you know, once you get more law enforcement and you work as if, you know, when I was with the crew, with Eddie, that was a family. 

Rich Bennett 18:02
Yeah. 

Aiden Gabor 18:02
And when you get into law enforcement like you when you got in the military, you become a family. And it's like they call the 

Rich Bennett 18:08
Yeah. 

Aiden Gabor 18:08
blue line with men and women. You don't cross the blue, Mike. You don't do anything against your officers. You come you're blurring boundaries are. They have other ways to figure it out. You don't you don't go against them. So one more time as doing this, I couldn't bear what we went through of you don't tell anybody, but everybody finds out the deal's off. We're just. 

Rich Bennett 18:29
Yeah. 

Aiden Gabor 18:29
We're going to run and prosecute. So I didn't tell my mom, my ex-wife or any of them. I was not a great dad, great husband, because I was really internally because I became an alcoholic. It was a drink. I became a groper. Erm if you know what that term means. 

Rich Bennett 18:46
Yeah. 

Aiden Gabor 18:46
And I drank heavily and there was times that I would just have been stupors and. 

My buddy Don worked on the second apartment. We grew up in Germany as a guy grew up with my whole life. And so I would wake up and I remember in my head because it was getting there, I would get these visions of Saint Michael declaiming a sort of memory saying, You to betrayed slice me. I mean, I was freaking out. And 

Rich Bennett 19:15
Wow. 

Aiden Gabor 19:16
I remember we started times to put around and my 357 Magnum spin in the chamber and pulling the trigger and put it in my mouth to put it in my turban. I remember times I woke up not remembering it. I have at least another couple. Other times I tried to arm God had a reason. I mean, I woke up with three rounds in the chamber and I remember pulling the trigger. 

Rich Bennett 19:38
They. 

Aiden Gabor 19:39
Throwing it and my buddy Tom found it. He said you referred to yourself. You got a gun here or two here? Are you kidding me? The hole in the wall with the fucking. 

Rich Bennett 19:49
There's a hole in the wall. 

Aiden Gabor 19:50
I wonder, was a whole warm up the home. It's just been so dark. I miss my. But. 

Rich Bennett 19:55
They all. 

Aiden Gabor 19:56
God help me. God bless her, Teresa. 

Rich Bennett 19:58
Yeah. 

Aiden Gabor 19:59
Go through all this and then bring it tomorrow. Tell her I remember. Just. I swear I didn't remember just waking up, just, you know, feeling like shit. And 

Rich Bennett 20:10
Wow. 

Aiden Gabor 20:10
my buddy Don helped me out as best he could with it. And he also helped me out getting information, not knowing after the park, after everything was dark, he figured something's up. And I had a big talk. He knows by 90% of what I've done, and that was my best friend. And boy, he beat the shit out of me. I love him. I mean, he was so mad not knowing he gave me information on these guys because people were blaming like, okay, this guy is going to arrest the most dominant. They're blaming him. There was like 15 guys. 

Rich Bennett 20:38
Oh, wow. 

Aiden Gabor 20:39
Everything. So not everybody is leaving the department. And so that's when I left. So didn't look like another one where, you know, who shall we blame? Over 

Rich Bennett 20:47
Right. 

Aiden Gabor 20:47
the years, I've had a couple camps of my life shot a couple times. And, you know, Arnold Ward was definitely from Dominic. You know, And I mean, obviously, Alistair, he never said a word against anybody in my crew. I was if they were to ask me about anything, if Eddie or all my would would get asked because 

Rich Bennett 21:09
Yeah. 

Aiden Gabor 21:09
they are I'm only one. So like from all that and everybody's like, well why are you hiding yourself? Because when you prepare police officers in prison. 

Rich Bennett 21:17
Mm. 

Aiden Gabor 21:18
Bad for reason. And some will probably get out and Summerall and they've been asking me one after Don and he's like. 

Rich Bennett 21:28
Seeking revenge. 

Aiden Gabor 21:29
Yeah. So purpose ship. 

Yeah, I you know, I just. I promised my wife now that I would do this. You know what I meant? Be my identity and all. Because it's going to start a lot of shit with people. And I got kids, so I'm hiding all this. But that's. That's kind of. You know it. There are me and. A couple of years ago. My wife now, I look there, they had me go to a casino. So I met my wife out of the casino after thing, said Don. They just dropped me. He said, okay, they should just open it. Peace out. Murdoch. 

Rich Bennett 22:10
Damn. 

Aiden Gabor 22:10
You know, at the time and, you know, I got the ball. So I made a good soul mate there because she she accepted me for where I was, because, you know, our first month together, we had a square draw and I got over $900. And that's where our 800 $900. And she was a Werder worker. Who's your problem? And she always said that. I mean, you get spirituality and everybody died and grew up as a Catholic, went to Catholic schools. And I used to tell them, you know, kiss my ass, I don't believe in this stuff. I would look for the other guy that was my driver for the other guy. And no, I'm not gonna this religion should stupid. 

Rich Bennett 22:56
Right. 

Aiden Gabor 22:57
And I wouldn't say I was having nightmares and my wife was like, I was standing on the ground punching the wall, trying to handcuff her. 

Rich Bennett 23:08
What? 

Aiden Gabor 23:09
Not to the point supervising with no guns taken out or knives that I was just, I don't know, doing. 

Rich Bennett 23:16
Wow. 

Aiden Gabor 23:17
So she should call my buddy Darren. Sam. It was right. I grew up with Sam. Came over, and Sam's the one that in addition to the Baha'i faith. 

Rich Bennett 23:28
Right. 

Aiden Gabor 23:28
And he's like, Read this literature and I kiss my ass. No, we need to you know, we everything that Sabrina says happened. You need to do this some breathing in our microchips. And when I'm shooting outside one day and the sun is just coming out of me, and I mean, you feel so. I mean, I'm reading a girlfriend who spoke different, and I felt like a warmth and. 

It made me feel different. I didn't like the feeling I'm being asked. I was like, What the hell's going? 

Rich Bennett 24:01
Kind of scared you. 

Aiden Gabor 24:02
Yeah, it scared me a while. And then I realized, You know what? There's better and more rid of the high page where everybody's equal. Our men and women are equal. They're smart. Make some peace. Were man the woman subservient to the man? The man. And women are equal. I always believe that nobody, Sam, say you you're the high. But you never knew it. So I believe in. I believe in it. And to this day, my wife Sabrina, pushed me along with Sam and Don to 

immediately call recruit, which is like a Bible study she did with me for two years, over two years ago in the class with me three times a week. I went to class and she was a grim introvert. She was tan her Christian beliefs, but yet she went with me through the journey of becoming a Baha'i, learning the Baha'i faith. And she knows more about it than I do. 

Rich Bennett 24:53
Wow. 

Aiden Gabor 24:54
Converge. She pushes me to do quiet so that I don't do a classmate. Get your ass up, drag me my right here. Put me from a computer, get I'm class now like a two year old and I yeah, you know, the warmth brings it up and to me and I believe that, you know, I want from writing pure. If I died, I could never dream. There are already years to hurry to get up. Had guns pointed at me in my face I had. I've been stabbed a couple times, like I said, shot a couple times, you know, Stupid shit. I was never worried about dying. Now I probably would be or worse. And I'm like, I will because I want to bring peace. And terror would give against racism, against anti-Semitism, All the stuff we need to come together toward is war is hurting. And that's I want. 

Rich Bennett 25:43
Big time. 

Aiden Gabor 25:43
Now I know you are. Thank you for your service in the military. 

Rich Bennett 25:47
Mm hmm. 

Aiden Gabor 25:47
And you understand the Brotherhood are your friends. I never, ever enjoyed Wolverine photos of Marine. It 

Rich Bennett 25:53
Right. 

Aiden Gabor 25:53
was like I was always in law enforcement, even though I may have been the greatest person in the world. I'm always going to be consider myself a police officer and, you know, when I did this murder thing is when bad police officers make a hundred thousand good police officers look bad. If you look at the world today, oh, my God, there's bad people all bad. Men and women, law enforcement. And I'm too I think these people are amply caught in a big department work one day in their shoes as a police officer and find out what cesspool of life and what they protect. Just like the military or antimalware get out there. Get into a battle. No weakness in a foxhole. Get into a battle. Understand the trauma that they see or the trauma they have. They think they have. 

Rich Bennett 26:39
Now. 

Aiden Gabor 26:40
But they do it for us to have what we have today. And these people that understand their human life, especially military. You know, I talked to a lot of military guy, ex-military for PTSD because you need somebody to talk to. I became. 

Rich Bennett 26:55
Exactly. 

Aiden Gabor 26:56
I tried to kill myself. I did. So I may have been through the trauma. Some things they've done. Not even close. But I'm close to understand part of it. And if you have something to talk to and understand that there's someone here to help you, 

Rich Bennett 27:09
Mm 

Aiden Gabor 27:09
I'm 

Rich Bennett 27:10
hmm. 

Aiden Gabor 27:10
always there to help. I don't care. Nowadays, my biggest thing is I work with the people disabilities and Special 

Rich Bennett 27:18
Oh. 

Aiden Gabor 27:18
Olympics. Talk like that. So that. 

Rich Bennett 27:20
Really? 

Aiden Gabor 27:21
Yeah. And these kids out there, we look at the world through their eyes. Everybody. They love everybody and most. 

Rich Bennett 27:27
Yes. 

Aiden Gabor 27:28
Then we remember that that person hurt me. But other than that, they have love for you. And I wish to look at it that way to your eyes and wish you would be more for the matter. Wait, kids. Just like Meryl. Oh, my God. What's wrong with that guy? Homeless people that made the veterans have this PTSD. Their people missed the dinner table. Understand? Especially kids nowadays. They're their pieces of shit because they don't understand and they don't want to understand. They think everything's just given to them. And. 

Rich Bennett 27:58
Exactly. 

Aiden Gabor 27:59
There is a sacrifice in everything law enforcement, military do, sacrifices for have what they have today. 

Rich Bennett 28:07
And it's sad because, I mean, I've talked to a lot of veterans, police officers and all of that. And even today, if somebody asked me my you know, if they wanted to join the military, I would fly. They I tell them not a shot, say. And I've had police officers say the same thing. Because it's more I want to say it's more political, but it's also it's like you have everybody against you now and you're especially as a police officer, your hands are tied in so many ways. It's ridiculous. And the same with the military. You don't. I mean, you heard they're big gang members that have been joining the military to learn strategies and everything. And then they leave and bring it back. And they trained people in the gang. You know, and it's it's sad, but you're right. A lot of these kids today, they think they're just going to make it as social media influencers and all that. You know, in any case. But I want I want to commend you for, you know, what you said with help of people with different abilities, ideas. Growing up, we used to be huggers for the Special Olympics all the time. Me and my. My sister because we had our cousin had Down's syndrome. But I think everybody should get involved one way or another with people that have disabilities with disabilities because you can learn so much from them, 

Aiden Gabor 29:40
Oh, absolutely. I mean, I started when I was still doing law enforcement thing. I wasn't, 

Rich Bennett 29:46
right? 

Aiden Gabor 29:46
you know, back then they did some training because you didn't know how to handle the mechanical, obliterating, not knowing. 

Rich Bennett 29:51
Mm hmm. 

Aiden Gabor 29:52
And then you learn because it's a different way to talk to them. You need to get their trust. And when they have their episodes, there's ways to talk to them. They don't just grab them and throw them down because that just makes the situation worse. And ever since I grew up, when I got these these young men and women, they have so much together. And when I became a bit higher, I realized that even more how much they have to give. And thank you for you and your brothers for doing what you did with them. Well, you know, in high school I was a jock and I had a couple of them and I had a couple special kids over there. I would I would defend them. I got to 

Rich Bennett 30:30
Yes. 

Aiden Gabor 30:30
football, you guys either to find them or I'm going to beat your ass to. And so and I was a big guy for my my age when I played for as a kid. And we saw protector and back then I said, okay, these guys need help not thinking about it. I got offers from, you know, when I saw this again, I said, Yeah, you know what? Yeah, we are more for this than we got to protect these young men and women. 

Rich Bennett 30:55
Yes. 

Aiden Gabor 30:57
You know, just like the same thing. I believe in the military and law enforcement, PTSD. They need protection, too, because they have a mental disease or maybe what's called disease. But I think it's more of a because what they see they can't get rid of. And I think I think if they talk about it more and I give AA meetings, I'm only one with no cure and all that for PTSD. More you talk about, I think the more you come understanding, especially people that have been through it. 

Rich Bennett 31:30
Oh, yeah. And you think about it. You're the police today are technically at war more than your military is in the same with your your firefighters and EMT. They see so much shit out there and it it does, man. It messes with their if they don't have anxiety and depression, I guarantee you they're going to end up with it. And PTSD. 

Aiden Gabor 31:54
Between law enforcement, military, the highest suicide rates because they don't know what to do. Now, what 

Rich Bennett 32:01
No. 

Aiden Gabor 32:01
gets me to, especially the military, this is what really gets me is you're a marine, so you were taught as a marine to kill. That was your that's all your job was to kill, kill, kill. And then after you're done, go back in society and be a be enormous citizen. How do you ship me? How do you. 

Rich Bennett 32:18
Yeah. 

Aiden Gabor 32:19
You go through training or kill, kill, kill. You know, then all of a sudden go become a model citizen and expect them to not have some problems getting back to society. And, you know, I just don't get that sometimes. 

Rich Bennett 32:35
Now there's there's no there's nothing in place to help you transition. And it's funny you mention that. And then I'm talking to you because I'll never forget when I got out of the Marine Corps, I ended up becoming a bartender. I was supposed to go to a police academy. Quit The police academy didn't go all the way through. It became a bartender in this one bar. I was tending bar. I just connected with this one guy. And he because of what I did in the Marines, he asked me if I wanted to work for him. So I came home and I told my father, he's my father's like, What's his name? And I told him, he said, No, absolutely not. I said, Why? He said, Because he's in the Mafia. Do. There ain't no getting out. He's the guy. I want to be a bodyguard. I didn't know. I figured. I had no idea. Yeah. Needs to say I didn't do that. 

Aiden Gabor 33:30
You, 

Rich Bennett 33:30
But 

Aiden Gabor 33:30
they figure. 

Rich Bennett 33:31
you don't know how to transition. 

Aiden Gabor 33:33
The reason why. But, you know, when they say that you can't get out. You can't even you can't. It's 

Rich Bennett 33:41
Right. 

Aiden Gabor 33:41
more of you know, it's like a retirement day. You can get out. You can always be part of those groups of people looking out for you. You know, I did it, but our whole crew went to prison and they basically dissolved it because somebody else stopped them. I know the people to this day, one of the steps, and that's what I wanna choose. I do talk to the firm and ah, you know, they back in the day when we did it, we did prostitution, we did we stole cars, we did loan sharking, protection, you know, 

Rich Bennett 34:12
Right. 

Aiden Gabor 34:13
we did. Gambling was a big one. I was never locked because I was so younger. People would whipped prostitution and they want me to play with the girls. I would do everything else for my being robbed because I was a big kid and I was diagnosed when I went several years ago, my wife said, You need to go talk to a shrink or kiss my ass. So I diagnosed. I have no empathy and I'm a borderline sociopath because in order to do what I did, you had to be. 

Rich Bennett 34:43
Yeah. 

Aiden Gabor 34:44
To this day, we watch movies and I like the way it's got broken Dog. I think it's funny. It's true. And she's like, What is your problem with this? I thought that what if it's for, you know, it's now my kids. And I'm like, No, I'm worried about it for movies I think are stupid and funny when they show because we're like your video liked. I'm like, I can't help and I'm working. I'm have every day. 

You know, the the whole thing is, is, you know, would they understand that with these kids nowadays, with the gangs, if the family members are own family here or if we if we do something today with the gangs and you're right, we work with the gangs or we didn't sell drugs if we as told by Eddie is look, I'm not crazy how we're sad, but let the gang sell the drugs in their neighborhood to their people. We got a portion of it just like we gave some of our protection stuff. They would help us out in our if they were in our territory. We work together. You know, and everybody in you work watches mob stories or movies. Some are pretty close. Some we didn't kill people just to kill. It's not good business. 

Rich Bennett 35:56
No. No. 

Aiden Gabor 35:58
The had a problem. Somebody did. That was for another crew that either took money or poached whatever you poached and somebody there for any reason. Excuse me, It's really stupid or greed. Expecting something's going to happen. They're not going to like it. And that's what it was. We never like people, but here we beat the shit out of them. We were given an incentive to pay. My favorite thing is, I mean, the joke was, you know, all, well, you know, use of baseball. We we were not real rocket science as we were to him, but it was a karate chop shop. So we were we had our hamburgers, what we used, you know, we. 

Rich Bennett 36:36
Oh, wow. 

Aiden Gabor 36:37
Do something different then. You brought something in like I had a black, but we all did. That was when you could do damage. It would be marks. Really. 

Rich Bennett 36:45
Right. 

Aiden Gabor 36:47
But if you want it kinky, don't get kinky, because then you can make a signature. And then that brings what to people looking at you. Law enforcement, usually. So we've baseball bats and we would put a ball in the middle there. If somebody showed up, they would be your truck. What's their thing? I'm ready to play baseball any time. 

Rich Bennett 37:10
Smart 

Aiden Gabor 37:10
And so we can't use it against you. So I remember one day with Mickey and I came back and they were telling me how I hit this guy and I hit him in the ankles. And he's like, Why did you drink? So I go, because I make pretty cool sound. But then he's on the ground. He can't get up and you can really 

Rich Bennett 37:27
tackling. 

Aiden Gabor 37:27
have control over you. Hit him in the knee. They make it up. You make or you keep those wheels out. They're basically built on what you can do to crawl around. I mean, you got your total control and you're like, Oh, that's different. But that's what I did. And it made a pretty cool sound. I'm going to be honest. 

That's all you need to know. Hey, next week you will know this post. This next week it's going to be worse. And the other? The 99% paid 

more so than a gambler. So that's where he gambling. I'm thinking, Oh, okay. Gambling. I'm okay now. And then with that. But now it's not really my thing. 

But, you know, I grew up with that. But 

when you talk about the mob, yeah, they tried to get one day my son, my youngest, to do it, and I had to go and have a chat with somebody who's passed since then. And he after come to Jesus meeting, I guess you can say he decided, hey, I maybe I'll leave your kid alone. And my son was like, pissed because he thought I had something to do with the nighttime murder we're talking about. They don't wanna talk to me anymore, Dad. I'm like, Oh, wow, that sucks. 

Rich Bennett 38:42
Wow. 

Aiden Gabor 38:43
I can see your dad's point that don't go with this guy. 

Rich Bennett 38:46
Yeah. 

Aiden Gabor 38:48
The money was good and you had respect and you did have power. I enjoyed them at the time, but in all the warm, he was right. But I mean, a barber. Bartenders make good money, too. 

Rich Bennett 39:03
I was making good money. 

Aiden Gabor 39:04
I'm sure you were. 

Rich Bennett 39:05
Bar. 

Aiden Gabor 39:06
So both of you have made some time in the survey. So. 

Rich Bennett 39:10
Then my father got pissed because then we bought a nightclub and I think I tended bar for a few weeks and he couldn't find a deejay. Ended up doing that. 

I'm sorry, Dad. Actually, if you don't mind me asking. Was she with the A.L.S.? When were you diagnosed of that? How long have you had? That's it for. 

Aiden Gabor 39:30
Well, I have it now. It was 20. 

2020 

Rich Bennett 39:39
Oh, 

Aiden Gabor 39:39
the at the beginning of 2020 or the rest of 2019 that began 2020 will look upon there something wrong or take up told me this. They kept telling me that and I'm just 

Rich Bennett 39:50
right. 

Aiden Gabor 39:51
like the doctors could not make out because they're saying it's Parkinson's. No, it's M.S. Nodes. And I mean, I feel like shit. So they give me all these different medications and they were just not doing anything. And then eventually, because I have diabetes, it 

Rich Bennett 40:07
Oh. 

Aiden Gabor 40:07
it it hit it. Hit it. 

And then they probably are. You got bigger ones. I'm I'm over medication I'm doing okay and one's in some mobility. But you know, I look at it this way. God's got a sense of humor with everything I've done 

Rich Bennett 40:22
Yeah. 

Aiden Gabor 40:22
as a youth and all that, He's to to screw with you. And, you know, I've had some friends of mine that were I support rehab and I say path lessons and horror stories. And her wife probably died. I'm like all the funds that were going to and it's going to be a fun time. 

Rich Bennett 40:39
Yeah. 

Aiden Gabor 40:40
God's got a sense of humor, what you do. 

Rich Bennett 40:42
Yes, she does. 

Aiden Gabor 40:44
How? With you? Yeah. You're going to get yours at the end. I believe I would go to Iowa. I believe I'm going to a next plane. I'm not going to go to hell or I'm going to go to the next plane and I hope to redeem myself better, make a better person next on my next plane. I just have to be better and I have to work harder at it. So they're going to have to look forward to come out scared or. 

Rich Bennett 41:10
Right. 

Aiden Gabor 41:11
I do. I do. It's nothing I can do about it. It is what it is. So I try every day of the world to help people and to talk about the Baha'i faith. And I'm thinking everybody needs some kind of spiritual to be out there, you know, get rid of this racism, get rid of this anti-Semitism assault thing with Israel and Palestine. If these people want to go play, go talk to Hamas people, see how they are with that. 

They just don't get it. The whole military, because they were doing this. You know what? That's what happens when you start your war. 

Rich Bennett 41:47
Yeah. 

Aiden Gabor 41:48
It would 

Rich Bennett 41:48
Yeah. 

Aiden Gabor 41:48
serve him to get stronger and younger. We look at this because there's always going to be somebody like Hitler, like Stalin, like Saddam Hussein, like all of us that want to take over the world. There bigger. Look at the look at what it takes to take over the world. And the people want to get in communism. We're talking about all this crap. My parents were in Budapest, Budapest, Hungary, in World War Two, and they had to deal with the Nazis and then they had to deal with the Russians. My mom and dad were partisans. My mom started as a producer at eight and my dad was nine. And. I didn't know about these stories After my mom passed, my dad's like, Yeah, we're going to have a long talk. And my mom, when the Russians came in, they did a lot of things to her sisters that were not. 

Stayed with her and my dad said she was the most vicious person she killed. So many would just along with him with a knife. It was like a pointed, like spear, and she'd stabbed through the neck. And they're nine or ten years old. These Russians coming up to grab play with them. She'd kill. My dad said he was ruthless. And I read a book a long time ago. Said that whatever your parents are, they should stop like this. It sometimes returns towards the kids. 

Rich Bennett 43:11
Yeah. 

Aiden Gabor 43:11
And that could be I was an only child. Maybe that's part of my youth or how I got power I. But my was my dad's talk about communism. My mom was she's a what? Why? People understand what military fights that hair black. Yeah. If you go in to become to total military state or if you people, everybody else suffers put the on top. 

Rich Bennett 43:35
Mm hmm. Exactly. Exactly. Hey, we with your book, Conflicting Loyalties. 

First of all, how long did actually take you to write this? 

Aiden Gabor 43:50
I didn't 

Rich Bennett 43:50
Oh, 

Aiden Gabor 43:50
want to write it. I do. My buddy Sam came up and we made him, like, talk. He knows about 80% of my my youth and life, and he's like, this is we need to talk you to do this therapeutic value to get this out. Because what you're doing to Sabrina is you just can't keep doing this. I like her and it did bring out a lot more. I got I have worst nightmares, like now I sleep on a couch in a different room and all of them, we kind of get back here because I've had a lot of nightmares, gotten better since I 

Rich Bennett 44:21
right. 

Aiden Gabor 44:21
took brought out and far as therapeutic, I didn't want to do it. And he's like, My God, you know, you have to get 

Rich Bennett 44:27
Mm 

Aiden Gabor 44:28
this 

Rich Bennett 44:28
hmm. 

Aiden Gabor 44:28
out. You need to make a book out of this. And I'm I don't want to make a book out. Yes. Because this this story between all the terms because I mean, you do something as a kid when we were growing up and was like, yeah, you did. I think that kind of made me think they need to write a book. And I'm like, So I got to go. Sure, we did a lot of talking, but obviously because of the memoir, you're probably listening for all I remember this, all this, and so time writing it didn't go work. You were 15 then. You were 20 something, then you were. 

Rich Bennett 45:00
Mm hmm. 

Aiden Gabor 45:01
Team, it was all worth it. So my wife, Sabrina Perkins, says, No, we can't do that. The dates don't even match. She's like, Okay, you got this your jumper. It's stupid. So she's the one to put it in the order it's in. 

Rich Bennett 45:15
Okay. 

Aiden Gabor 45:16
Yeah. So it's it was really old. I mean, if you I'm sure you know, we have if you read the beginning of the book, it says people places names have been changed to protect the guilty. 

Rich Bennett 45:30
Guilty? Yes. 

Aiden Gabor 45:31
Everybody's guilty in this book, but for lawyers, you can't use that name. Yeah, know you can't use that power. Yeah. No, you can't use that. No, you can't do this because. They did a fact check between the publisher and Sam to make sure, okay, was this true? They came back with all these PR, I think. Yeah, they're very curious. Like I between two of my eight or nine picks. And I'm like, Really? Guys, you have to check this out. We have to, you know, lawyer said, we need to do this. Lawyer So we need to do that. And it's therapeutic all through the problems. You say you got to write a book. So I wrote a book on it and I really want to help people understand as people try to stop their police officers. People gone through some stupid shit in their life, but it doesn't come out with dark. You can be like I was the dark cesspool and coming to light with spirituality and religion. You can come into the light and be a positive person in this world. Sure, it's easy being bad. It's so easy being bad. It's hard as fuck being good. It's hard to stay out of a straightener and be good for people. For me, it's a struggle every day. But I understand I need to do better. I need to make the world a better place. But it's so hard. It's so easy to just pull this. I'm going to go steal work or run out of these stores, smash and grab. It's so much easier than having to work for a living. 

Rich Bennett 46:57
Mm hmm. 

Aiden Gabor 47:00
But that's how I look at it. And that's why I wrote the book. And Sam took me into it. My wife's like, Yeah, it's a prostitute. Stipulations. And my brother John was like, Yeah, dude, you need to get this. You know, you were the craziest shit we did that you might write very. I'll do it. 

Rich Bennett 47:21
Right. So how long did it actually take you, though, to write 

Aiden Gabor 47:25
Three 

Rich Bennett 47:25
it? 

Aiden Gabor 47:26
years. Three years? 

Rich Bennett 47:27
Three years. 

Aiden Gabor 47:28
Yeah. 

Rich Bennett 47:29
Wow. So what what's the biggest thing you actually learned about yourself while writing the book? 

Aiden Gabor 47:36
I was an asshole going up. 

Really biggest thing I learned was there, you know? Yes. I learned that you're going I have to go and see a shrink that I've got these problems that I really doubt, Ricardo. And I worried about myself. That you know what? I could be a better person. I can make the world a better place. Like I've been saying, yes, we all need space. I was damn good. I mean, growing up Catholic, but, you know. Well, one day I went to the, you know, professional. From her job saying, Hey, baby, would you do better? I don't know. Sure. I didn't do that. And I know what the fuck's going on, brother. You all done something bad? No, I haven't done that. I ain't changed. Shit, it is. I get the fuck out of here just like I was combustion. And 

Rich Bennett 48:29
Wow. 

Aiden Gabor 48:29
that's where I was. I was. I used to piss him off, and that's where I got kind of got me. And I'm like, I don't need to go listen to this shit. 

They're not feeling whole now. They're a prostitute job. Yes, I learned that for myself. That you know what? I could be a better person. 

Rich Bennett 48:48
Yeah. So your book's actually compared to works like Hollywood Godfather and Donnie. So in what ways do you feel your story stands out or stands apart from other mob related narratives? 

Aiden Gabor 49:04
Other than the fact that 100% how true those are, but that I more try to redeem myself by going from one end and taking down the people that I've seen working as warm and taking out bad politicians, bad police officers, and being a police officer and learning, Hey, I like being a cop. You know, maybe when I was younger I thought cops force, no problem. I never said shit, don't talk to them. But learning that they're out there to protect and serve is as it stated. And they're risking their lives to help clowns like me be safe and here there's power. Money. But what if they get you in there? 

Rich Bennett 49:49
Yeah. 

Aiden Gabor 49:49
It doesn't get you anything unless you have the feeling of a spirituality feeling wrong other than, you know, I have a family, so. It was different. But as far as compared to the books, because we were rocket scientists, it's all going to be the same. Nobody really immediately different than you stood out and you don't want to stand out. That's part of what took us down as a whole. And you did some things that brought a whole lot of heat down to the environment. And so at the end there, you know, you're going to lose. And as far as compared to books are pretty much all going to be the same, really, any of them that have been in it in one way, shape or form be out. Most everybody was an enforcer. I did a lot of bad things and I was an enforcer. I couldn't be a cop because I was of town. I was Hungarian, but I could be a meeting world or do things up to a point. And 

Rich Bennett 50:49
Right. 

Aiden Gabor 50:49
I did. And do I regret? No, I'm going to be honest with you. I don't regret. I learned from that wisdom. I would change. Maybe two or three things. I mean, obviously, your art. If I knew better, I would have told these two clowns to get fucked when they saw me as a kid. Who knows where I'd be today are probably dead by now. But you know, there's a reason God put that whole entire chapter to hold into my book of life. God had that. That we have that. What do you say you have that you're worried it's going to be what it's going to be? 

Rich Bennett 51:32
Yeah. 

Aiden Gabor 51:33
You have to go through hardships of life to appreciate life. 

Rich Bennett 51:41
I like that. Which I think you just answered my one. My next question in a way, with that, uh, because I was going to ask you, what key lessons are messages do you hope readers will take away from your memoir? 

Aiden Gabor 51:55
Like I said, a person can come out of dark into a light and be a better person in society and. Everything you learn from from life. You just learn to be true, to love life as you go. 

Rich Bennett 52:14
Yeah. With, with this because I know it's available on Kindle and paperback. Right. Or hardcover. 

Aiden Gabor 52:21
We both preach together. So here are three conflicting walgreens.com. It's got all the good, the bookstore, all the different place you can order. It tells you the whole story. It tells not whole story tells you where to get that, what to look up. Because there's Twitter, there's a Facebook page. All bets on conflicting walgreens.com. 

Rich Bennett 52:42
Now. Any plans on possibly making it into audio form as well? 

Aiden Gabor 52:49
I asked my publisher about it. Mr. Bray. We'll get back to you. So who knows? What do you want to do? I think would be a great idea. But again, I think they're waiting to see how the book commissions after one year and see if they want to do that. 

Rich Bennett 53:06
I do know a lot of publishers will do that. They'll wait to see how it goes after the first year. Then if it does good, they'll do an audio form. And because I personally, when I, I like to listen to books. Because every time I try to read, I get. Interrupted. But, you know. But I still love the physical book. And that's the one great thing you can if you're listening to it, you can always go back to the physical part and pick up from where you left off listening. You know, but it's just something about when you hear in that voice, it's almost like. 

Listening to the old radio show, Man, I really am showing my age now. But the old. 

Aiden Gabor 53:56
During my generation, we're probably about same age that we don't know. Like they said, we know it's like not been or we know it's like the road to the waterfall. So we we know. Well, I mean, I a park system actually playing it and thinking, Wow, this is awesome. And now you. Go. My God, this is boring. 

Before cell phones, maps when you would drive. You don't have the. 

Rich Bennett 54:27
Yelp. 

Aiden Gabor 54:28
As part of any that we would love to have ones that are going to know about this about. 

Rich Bennett 54:34
Oh, yeah. 

Aiden Gabor 54:35
Hard times today in hard times to reach our kids nowadays, even bigger hard times. We didn't have phones, cell phones. 

My kids don't even know what that is. 

Rich Bennett 54:47
Oh, even drive it, too. I mean, we you most of us learn how to drive on a manual. 

Aiden Gabor 54:53
I did I. 

Rich Bennett 54:53
Not an automatic. Yeah. Yup. Oh, man. Bring it back. Memories, Dale. 

Aiden Gabor 55:00
Okay. I to go to the stick ship, you know, and everything. I mean, no liner that we don't 

Rich Bennett 55:06
Now. 

Aiden Gabor 55:06
need. The looks of Marco with encyclopedias. I mean, my dad had like probably a thousand books, and you look something up like, Oh, my work and. No, no. Okay, not this. 

Or even worse now is whenever y to got air, you just hear argue or you warm tremors that have later you got to. 

Rich Bennett 55:26
It's ridiculous. It is. These kids. These kids don't have a clue. Oh, my God. Imagine if something happened. All internet and electricity was just gone. They wouldn't even know what to do. Yeah. We'd be outside playing hide and seek or something, you know? 

Aiden Gabor 55:48
Go outside. Don't come home across the street. Right her. 

Rich Bennett 55:51
Exactly. 

Aiden Gabor 55:53
Good. Wait. God, help me. Please wait. 

Rich Bennett 55:55
Oh, yeah. 

Aiden Gabor 55:56
Yeah, that or I remember when I visited you look at your porch, we have a pair of paper and a pencil. Now. Got these little pads or, you know, some of you wonder what is working there over there cause all that shit away from me. Yeah. We need to have a tool for parents. Well, it's. It's, you know, investigation. You're a parent. 

It's all on a computer. 

Rich Bennett 56:24
Bury school. Yeah. If you had to do a book report, you either wrote it or you used a typewriter. Yeah, I remember the good old ditto machines. Oh, man, That paper smelled smoke. 

Aiden Gabor 56:38
When they did start to get. Or my best is when you go to a classroom and they brought in a projector you knew you were. 

Rich Bennett 56:46
Oh, God. 

Aiden Gabor 56:47
They wanted looked down and looked up and then they. 

Rich Bennett 56:50
Uh huh. 

Aiden Gabor 56:51
During You got to see a movie nowadays, Hey, we're going to have out TV. But 

Rich Bennett 56:55
Yeah. 

Aiden Gabor 56:55
we didn't have a TV. We had this thing that came down and that was it. 

Rich Bennett 57:00
Yeah, that one. Now that you can just pull up their phone and watch TV all referred to. Oh, man. Well, hey, before I get to my last question is there anything you would like to add? 

Aiden Gabor 57:14
No, sir. I think I got everything out there. I will do it again. Thank you for serving and helping our country out. 

Rich Bennett 57:21
All, my honor. And thank you for everything that you're doing. I you know, when you said you're helping people with disabilities, they just blew me away. I love that. I think. 

Aiden Gabor 57:34
Almost every day. 

Rich Bennett 57:35
I think in all honesty, I think that should be like when you go to school, I think there should be a requirement. 

Aiden Gabor 57:42
I think so, too. 

Rich Bennett 57:44
It would teach people how to well work with other people that are different than them. You've been on a lot of interviews so far. 

Aiden Gabor 57:54
Yes, sir. 

Rich Bennett 57:55
And more coming up. Is there anything that a host has never asked you that you wish in a way they would have asked you? And if so, what would be that question and what would be your answer? 

Aiden Gabor 58:08
No one is really Ask me 

that. Ask her if you know what was my feeling throughout all of this. As a child, no one's ask me how I thought growing up and then going into law person meant that my different take on growing up with that mythical animal, what my feelings were and my feelings is, you know, once you're in there, it's a family and you don't go against your family. And so it's the old saying. But my feeling was, I don't think in my whole life I've ever felt the respect people gave to me and the power I had. Even, of course, we had no respect for people. You have a little bit of power and you overdid it. Your room that's already become bad. But as far as verbal from the crew, it's the respect. And I think. 

Rich Bennett 59:15
Right. 

Aiden Gabor 59:17
That's what I would say is as a child, I learned that to this day you disrespect me, we got a problem. I get arguments. I got a couple scuffles where people disrespect. I don't like disrespect. I like arrogance. And I'm stupid enough that I will get myself into altercations where people are one, both are monster couple. And that's where I think growing up is work. When I was in there is the respect thing and I wish I could have that, which I had respect for each other. 

Rich Bennett 59:55
And I guarantee you, I bet you earned that respect and didn't demand it at first. Right. 

Aiden Gabor 1:00:04
When I first started, the respect thing was the Dominic. Just for some reason, because I was young, probably I would pick he pushed me around and there was one point when he pushed me. I grabbed the pipe and I hit him and he turned around to shoot me. And then he stopped it. And then I. 

Rich Bennett 1:00:23
Damn 

Aiden Gabor 1:00:23
Hand it to him. And he's it's a respect that you need to earn your respect. 

Rich Bennett 1:00:29
right. 

Aiden Gabor 1:00:29
You need to find a way, Ernie. I mean, the first time I went with Dominic, I said something to him that, you know, in their heart. He pushed me to where everything was spinning. And I realized I deserve that. I need to earn the respect. And overtime I earned his respect. I think, 

Rich Bennett 1:00:45
Right. 

Aiden Gabor 1:00:45
you know, he got stuck with me, but he learned to respect me. It started out. I had to learn respect. You're right. I earned it the hard way by being stupid. And then when I did things I had to do and that flipped her like a your guy recruiting Joey. That was either because his dad was higher up and he was he was. He was a pure Italian, squeamish or blunt and he would throw up and walk away. And Mary can't marry or clean that shit up now. You know why are you is see here and respect it's a family thing and he never really earned it. But we had to give it. And I go a long way to appeal to a certain respect. But you have to earn your own respect, my guys respect. And we have to give it. And to a point. But when you earn a different type of respect, you earned it by doing things and nurturing towards what they was asked of you. And I think that's the big thing. 

Rich Bennett 1:01:48
Right. Well, Aidan, I want to thank you so much, man. It's been a true honor. Everybody, once again, make sure you go out and get this book. Conflicting Loyalties. My Life as a Mob Enforcer turned DOJ informant by aiding Gabor, I guarantee you. 

You're going to love it. You're probably going to sit back as you're reading it and your mouth is going to drop points. You're probably going to. Feel some sorrow. Are you're going to I you'll probably laugh at points, you know. But I guarantee you're going to love it and make sure you leave a full review. Aidan, thanks a lot. 

Aiden Gabor 1:02:33
Thank you so much. Again, an honor being on. And again, thank you for serving our country, sir. 

Rich Bennett 1:02:37
My.