Ep 21: F**k Badlands!

Hello this is Sean and welcome to fuck your opinion a movie review podcast before we get started please make sure to like follow subscribe, write a review of this podcast wherever you are listening right now and please be sure to follow us on Facebook, Twitter or Instagram all those are linked in the description enjoy the Episode Hello and welcome to fuck your opinion. Hi Jani Potter Scouter here and welcome to fuck your opinion a movie review podcast Sean take it away. Jesus Christ. I mean you always interrupt me but man that's a first for that being that early well listeners like my short shot I think there's kind of a delay I can't there's no delay keep going. There's no delay you're making that up. That's a bunch of bullshit. I'm not hearing you. Okay, you don't need to hear me. You see this I'm flipping in the burn listen Oh, there's also a delay on that video. It's you're saying they Oh, okay. Obviously you get now you held up one of your fingers. Not sure which one it is though. So yeah, this is buck your opinion and movie review podcast each week my co host who is you just heard. Asshole piece of shit. Jani. We trade off picking movies. One week, one of us will pick a movie that we really love that we know. The other one will really hate and vice versa. This week dickwad. Yani picked. Like to pick Janya? I'm leaving you on what do you pick? Oh, so the video is actually frozen. Now there's no fucking freeze. Folks this week we watch the 1973 Terrence Malick classic and freshmen effort. Badlands starring Martin Sheen and says he's basic. So Jani, why did you choose this quote unquote, freshmen effort? Oh, Sean, I actually have a better question. Why did you choose that quote unquote, haircut? I'm seeing you got kind of a kind of a Hitler machine gun thing go in there. But it's not. It's like you couldn't fully commit? Actually, no, I take that back. I don't think I can call it a haircut. It actually it looks more like somebody attacked you with a knife. And then when they had cut away enough hair to see your face beneath it, were scared and ran away in terror. So listeners, if you listen to the Molly's game episode, you know I'm being sued. The details are something I'll talk about on another time. Point is the deposition is in about two weeks. So I said man, my hair is really long and really shitty right now. So I walked over to Supercuts got a haircut, and you know, blah blah, they gave me something that not proud of I don't think it's great. I paid $30 for this haircut by the way. Oh my goodness. $30 $30 and that's cheap route. Well, Supercuts is the cheapest in LA in my area that I can get to right. And that is going like 2022 but they bumped it up for COVID so it was like 27 pre tax then you had to tax you have to tip I'm not gonna say it was worth it. Definitely not. At the same time, you know, I'll grow into it my depositions in two weeks, and they'll say Oh, what a pretty old boy. Maybe let's hope for your sake that it does grow more than you grow into it. It's not like I had the mustache to boo. I would not i by virtue of your haircut alone. I would not side in your favor. I would see you and whoever else is on the other side of the courtroom and automatically defer to them. Do you think my longer hair would have been better for me? Yes. Oh my god. Yes. Definitely not your fucking line. You're just saying that cuz i right that made this decision if I didn't make because even with the facial hair you have right now and I'm going to take into account those blue light glasses. I'm also seeing you're wearing. You look like a 13 year old, malnourished boy from 1930s Brooklyn. You're like a depression era child. We're just You look I literally just got a haircut and you're describing the whole package. That's like, my face my features the whole thing. What I What I'm saying is if you wear the glasses, they might just pity you. But I think we're also getting off track here. Why did I choose? Badlands? Why did I choose that this week? Well, here's the thing. I was thinking about freshmen efforts again, after watching Night of the Hunter and Molly's game, and I thought, huh, what's another really great first film? That's also so much better than Molly's game? Yeah, you know what? Badlands Actually, that's not how it went. I was desperately searching HBO NOW, or HBO, Max at the end of last week's episode. And I stumbled upon Badlands. Fun fact, by the way. This is Terrence Malik's first first feature first directorial credit, I believe in feature filmmaking. It wasn't his first screenplay. But I think he'd been at it for about five, maybe six years, which is about a fifth as long as Aaron Sorkin was working in the industry before he made Molly's game. And it's still so much better visually. That, yeah, so folks, I picked it because I knew Shawn would also not like it, because of all those things that I stated, because it's a good film. He I don't know exactly which theme I want to hit on right now. So I feel like maybe we should get into it a little bit later on. Because it's really, it's it's hard to say exactly what this film is about. And honestly, a lot of critics couldn't exactly put their finger on it when it came out either. And I sure as hell can't. No, you can't, we'll get into Well, I'll explain it to you. We'll I'll ease Ali's in real slowly for you, Shawn. I know. I know. It kind of comes. Here's a little bit shocking if it comes at you all at once you like have to really explain things. Did the things work in the first place? Probably not. Oh, no, they they worked. I'm not I don't even have to explain them that much. I'm going to explain this to you as if I were explaining it to a toddler with a hearing problem. So Jani, we just had some technical difficulties, but getting right Shawn, what were those technical difficulties by the way? Why don't you elaborate? Yeah, let me elaborate. So I'm the host, and he only does absolutely nothing for this podcast. So I'm like between three windows getting everything set up making sure Zen caster is running, and I'm recording making sure all the notes and everything are compiled, making sure every you know just doing all this and I hit record and Yani didn't tell me that my audio sounded like shit. And normally I would double check and make sure my mics Okay, I forgot to double check. We just kind of went rolling with it, because obviously Jani could hear me and I went, Oh, wait a second. I don't think my mic is actually recording right now. We double check the end. Well, we figured it out. So anyways, Jani, your fucking rating for this fucking movie. Well, let's see. You know, I wouldn't call it a perfect film. And I wouldn't even call it Terrence Malik's best film. I think it really grew as a filmmaker from this point on in his career, and went on to make a bunch of films that were arguably a little bit better, though. I think it's an extremely strong start. I don't think I would give it like a 9.5 like cold war because I don't think it's quite that good. But I still think it is really good. So I'm probably going to give it like a h point away. Can we do decimals? Absolutely not. I don't feel like that's I that's not fair to me. I mean, you had one decimal to give away and you gave it the Cold War with a 9.5. I can't do decimals. Now. We've established this lesson. I don't think we have you can either do whole numbers or you can do pizza pie slices. Ah, man, like three pies and a half. Three pies. I can do three pies, four slices. So four pizzas for whole pizzas. And I guess two out of eight slices of a fifth pizza pie bringing it to four for pizza pot, four full pepperoni pizza pies and two slices of pepperoni pizza from an eight slice full pizza pie. Which is like eight slices. So a two out of eight. That's one quarter or point 258 point two five. What does that equal? 8.25. Gave unstoppable higher rating than that. I still agree with that. All right, breaking out the wine right going out the wine. Hey, what's that Yogi green tea quote of the day. Oh, I'm glad we like to do that. Whenever we review your films, movies. Sorry. I don't worry there's a movie because it doesn't have a theme because it means nothing. Anyways, he has a lot yoga Green tea quote of the day is communicate sacredness, build it, share it and spread it more meaningful than this movie. I'm sorry, can you repeat that? It just it flew right by me. I wasn't able to pay attention to it. How meaningful it was Yogi green tea quote, communicate sacredness, communicate sacredness, build it, share it, and spread it. Spread it. Hey, what is sacredness? And how is it not subjective? Anyways, moving on. Hey Sha Hey, I don't know the day I don't write it. Yeah, I don't think anyone does either. I think a computer does it. Probably. What was your stupid question? How would you summarize this film? Oh God I forgot that this was a category Oh yeah. I'm gonna need a minute you didn't do it Shawn you just waiting until we record our you don't even do good ones anymore. So yeah, had one good one in the get go with the bad boys and then you sled. You sled. They suck now. Anyway, mine are pretty good. Don't say that. They're better than yours. I'm not gonna say they're not better than mine. But you suck. Anyways, this film follows ianis role model who is a pedophile who kidnaps a 15 year old girl kills her father goes on the run kills a bunch of people. And in the end becomes john delegator. For some reason, even though he was really just a moron. Serial Killer. I can't stress how dumb he is. He was really dumb. That's my summary. Oh, it's not as dumb as you. I don't think anyone could be as dumb as you Shawn. Okay, so here's the rundown folks. First of all, Shawn got it a little bit out of order. What happens is a 25 year old garbage man seduces a 15 year old high school student deuces he does that's what happened is the worst 15 year old high school student they start seeing one another behind her father's back. Eventually father finds out prohibits his daughter to continue seeing affirmation 25 year old garbage man who also leaves his job to become a ranch and that is the character played by Martin Sheen. Martin Sheen kills the father and he kidnaps I'm doing kidnaps quotes around sociis basic because they kidnap sociis basic and they go on the run and they pretty much just continue to kill people to keep from being captured until the end when sociis basic decides until the end when he says he's basic just realizing that their corner decides not to go ahead with Martin Sheen and Jamie This is the bad decisions do yeah and that's that's how it is Martin Sheen is captured by the law and film ends with him and says he's basic being flown back home to oh man Oklahoma I don't remember which state I can never never remember which state it is but yeah, they return to Oklahoma law whatever their home state laws and since he's basic gets away with everything scot free and Martin Sheen i think is executed like six months after the events in the film there we go the end that's what they said and the narration executed six months later Yeah, it's it's told off more more or less it's the story is told in a lot of of narration it's a lot of highly subjective narration provided by associ SpaceX 15 year old character not a super you know, busy plot. I will not lie. So Jani. What we traditionally do after we say all that jibber jabber that we just did, we go into our three likes and three dislikes of the movie. Jani. What were your likes? What did you like about this movie? Starting on a very superficial level, honestly. And I think it's the thing one thing that like anybody walking away from this film can admire can appreciate. It's the cinematography. Yeah, even you, I think can appreciate the cinematography. Even you I preferred Molly. tog, Rafi, you will prefer Molly gabes shadow by geography. Are you that drunk at this point that you can't even do a singular possessive. Molly's game. Did I say that wrong? I preferred Molly's game. Oh, it's because it's Molly's games. It's weird. I prefer it. It's Molly's game. Yeah, but when you say Molly's games game, that's a possessive of game because the movie isn't photography. It's not that hard to say. I just said it right now. I'm just not i'm not blue. I hadn't drunk. I know a fucking drunk. I preferred Molly's game cinematography and sentence. Anyways, go on. So the deal with this film is it was shot not not entirely in Golden Hour Magic Hour, but it featured a hallmark of a lot of Malick films moving forward from this, especially in days of heaven. And that's a lot of natural lighting, a lot of realist cinematography, kind of this just voyeuristic feel to it like as if the viewer is just watching there were there were a person in the scene watching everything happen. Naturally, as it occurred, not a lot of nighttime shooting, I think there are only few scenes that occur at night. And when they do, they're very low lit. Because I think the one scene that I can remember, I think they're like two or three in the film that are is a nighttime shot where they're escaping the house after Martin Sheen has killed the Father, and they set the house on fire. And it's just beautiful Malik cinematographer. Pause right here because I just want to use his name. Act like you remember it? Yeah. Well, no. See, here's the thing about the cinematography that I'm remembering right now, actually, Malik cinematographer wasn't just one cinematographer. He had three cinematographers during the production of this Tango and cash situation. Is it? Well, here's the thing. Here's the thing. And this is honestly like, kind of why I like the cinematography, so much. Why I think it's so special for this film specifically, is that he had to go through three of them to kept on quitting because of how poorly run production was because this was my first film. And he really didn't exactly know how to run a set or the way that he ran. He was very unprofessional, honestly, by industry standards that like so he kept going through them. At one point, I believe the crew was reduced to Malik, the cinematographer and a production assistant from a local high school, it was probably just like a B roll thing or like ceiling tornado person scene. But no, it was low budget, it was a low budget film, I think it was, I think 400,004 50 back in the day back in the 70s, which is actually a lot with inflation, it's over. I think it's over like one and a half million maybe close to two but he personally funded not personally funded this film, but he was Malik was the producer too. So he raised all the money for it himself. And so it mattered to him in the production mattered a lot to him and you can tell that it did you can tell that he'd never really wavered by just how consistently great that cinematography was, you could get the sense that he had a vision and he did not want to compromise on it no matter what even even if it meant or even if he lost a cinematographer, or two in the process. Shawn, your thoughts on that? I like to send a topography of the chase at the end particularly how he used the dust in their trails. I thought that was really interesting. Besides that, I honestly similar to the return and some of the other stuff I I think and this is I haven't seen much Malik but from the bits I've seen of his later stuff he's like far better here. It's just a very Okay, I mean, some of the fire stuff is Oh, that scene was okay. But overall I wasn't I wasn't blown away I wasn't particularly impressed like a Tony Scott film or something. What Yeah, Tony you think the cinematography and unstoppable was better than this? I preferred it oh but he uses and the way he uses depth of field just makes Tony Scott cinematography look like look like it's big. Shot guy mental Asian. Oh top No, God Top Gun. No, that lighting in the lovemaking scene. Yeah, just make everything blue just throw blue gel on every single light that we own in the building and we're just gonna flash that through that we're gonna flash that through the window make it look really realistic. You know, cuz light is blue when it comes from the moon. That's exactly what it looks like here. Really, let's just put a really let's just put a Catlett. Let's put this same red to green filter on the lens. For every time we shoot on the water. that'll look real frickin good. You know what, no one's ever gonna get irritated by that. Oh, thank you for that Martin mean, see, whenever they're not Martin No, don't even dare. The three cinematographers who struggled to bring the cinematography to the standard that it was for this film for Badlands are individually more accomplished in the 1/3 of their job in this single film than Tony Scott was as a visionary in his entire cinematic career in our listeners, I'm not gonna bother arguing with Jani right now. Because you know what they say just don't argue with an idiot because it's just gonna bring you down. So I'm not gonna bother Let's assess the capacity listen to the episode. Listen to the Top Gun episode, you know, and also for your fucking like constantly saying, Oh Sean, you're getting drunk. I have a Charles Shaw wine bottle from Trader Joe's. I only had about a quarter of it left. probably less than a quarter of it left because I drank the past two nights he's lying to you. That thing was full when we started. You fucking liar. God anyways, cinematography, you know, I'm not getting worked up about cuz it's not worth getting worked up about it. That's why it's not wrong. It's not good. It's not even worth it. You know? It's just the landscape doesn't deserve an argument guy. I don't hate it. On Martin Sheen's Shut the fuck up right now. Shut up so we can move down to topics. I think it was great. I think it was terrible. It's just not worth arguing about right now. Okay, I'm gonna go again to the thing I like about this stupid movie. I liked it like anything. Let me look. Let me look at what I wrote in my notes. Okay, no, I wrote I liked when Martin Sheen shot at that football because I hate football. Great symbolism. All right, yadi. Any thoughts on that one? Honestly, I'm not gonna mince words, folks. I hate football too. So I there is nothing in Sean's statement that I can actively disagree with. As simple as a ride, other than the fact that I know he's being entirely facetious. So I don't support it. I don't support where it's coming from. And I definitely don't support the person saying that being said, Yeah, football is boring. I don't get how people can sit around and watch it for like two and a half to three hours at any given time. If you can, if you have some sort of reasonable explanation. Email fk. Wait was the email again? It's fk your opinion? podcast@gmail.com. Do I have to write it down for you? Now he can't read. So you're probably just not gonna understand that explain it to us. Like we're dumb because we kind of are. Or maybe there's no, okay. Say, my roommate and I. So we've been watching every Friday night. We have a couple shows that come out. So we watch those shows right now. I made my food. I was ready to watch those shows. And he was like, Oh, I just got to finish this baseball game. Because it's heated. He's watching the Yankees. I was like, Okay, sure. Why not? I couldn't even take 10 minutes of it. I think after like three minutes. I said, I can't even bother eating and watching this. And I put on a YouTube video. I couldn't do it. I hate sports. Anyways, Yana you're number two. Oh, man, we're just we're steaming right through these. Okay, my number two is one that is actually Shawn's least favorite things here. So we're probably going to have a nice little continue on here. The second thing that I really liked was Martin Sheen's character. And Martin Sheen's performance. kit, as this character is named is a kind of a doozy. He's kind of kind of a train wreck of a doozy. He's a little he's nihilistic. He's selfish. And he is kind of a sociopath. And that's because he has all of those kind of, but to me, he is also a pedophile and a murderer. And, you know, it's pretty clear what he's supposed to be. He's, he's the man who thinks he's in a movie, or at least wants to be. He's the product of young men growing up in that James Dean era of cinema, seeing this Rebel Without a Cause, that girls are just flocking to and thinking, oh, wow, I want to be that guy. That's the guy I ought to be. I should probably act on those emotions and at the end, so what does he do in real life? he winds up being a murderer and a statutory rapist. Yeah, and at the end, a repeated sequence murder. You can stop fucking going on. This is what you do every time you just like run on sentence your run on sentence. Anyways, I just wanted to say that at the end of the movie, when the guy is the so the cops that arrest him are like, you know, you look kinda like James Dean. I'm like, No, you don't. You're Martin Sheen. He does look like James Dean though his character not only isn't this character designed to look like James Dean. He tries he goes out of his way to like, the way he stands the way he expresses emotionally. If you look at it, if you look at James Dean James Dean's performances. There was a good chance. Terrence Malick probably had him watch a lot of James Dean to prepare for the role. Oh, he's saying that they did. Try After that character, I'm not saying they didn't try what I'm saying is that the very beginning of the movie, I thought he was sissies father, before we knew what was going to happen. Well, your dad's like that old. He was, let's see how old was Martin Sheen during production, I thought he was. He was 27. And since he space IQ was she was an adult, I think she was like 18 or 19. At at the time of production, I thought he wasn't even I'm just saying I thought he was the father. He looked young. And that's the point he's supposed to look charming, he's supposed to look a little bit dreamy. And that's why he's automatically able to just sweep sissies basic off of her feet. And that's the other thing I think, speaking about Martin Sheen's character, this is probably going to go into why you hate it so much, and why you don't think it's a good film. But I think this is kind of a, it's a it's a highly critical look at the dialogue between viewer and character in in film and cinema. And specifically like Hollywood 1950s 1940s era cinema, where you have as one, one archetype, the bad boy character, Martin Sheen, Kitt. And you have sissy space is a kind of passive observer of him more or less, that's all she is, during the whole runtime of the film, she doesn't kill anyone, she doesn't really help him in the killings. She just follows along and watches him as he kills and at first finds herself kind of entranced by him kind of like under a spell. But as time progresses, and she finds herself noticing like little oddities, and things that she didn't see before she grows a little bit jaded towards him, she grows a little bit different, and by the end just wants out, she realizes who he is. And, ultimately, rejection refuses to keep going on with him. And so I think it's a statement I think it I think more than anything, this film is a statement against that sort of generic, bad boy archetype in cinema. Because whoever you think he is on the screen is not who he would be in real life. And also just the passive, the passive it of being a viewer, and just allowing these things to happen without analyzing them and criticizing them for what they are. listeners. Here's what I'll say to Jani first. So I wasn't wholly paying attention to Jani because I was looking through my whole notes. So I'll often bother me when I don't respond to things. He says. I'd be like, Man, I wish I had followed up on that. Oops, my bad. There was probably something I wanted to say. What I'll say is this Jani was saying, oh, man, this guy's based off of James Dean and everything. You know, I'm not gonna argue he isn't. Now that you say that? Sure. I can see that. I never felt that when I was watching that. But I also don't have the context. I've never watched a James Dean film. And we are decades removed from that. So I'm not necessarily going to see it. And that light, as opposed to the people of the time period. And when the film was made. What I will say, though, is that when you say Oh, her perspective on on him change throughout time. Yeah, you are correct as well. At the same time before he even kills her father. He says things like, I'm going to crush my hands with this rock to remember what happened today. Do you think that a sane person would say, you know, I just want to remember today, so I'm gonna fucking smash my hands with a rock. Yeah, but he doesn't do it. Does he? He just kind of says it. Yeah. And says it was the same amount of conviction that he says everything. But his tone is, he is a sociopath. I mean, listen, I understand that her character is you know, she specifically says I'm not very well like nobody likes me. So this boy is giving me attention. So you she kind of fell for him. That being said, He's like a walking red flag. He's just everything about him go I mean, later on. Yeah, by today's by today's standards. Sure. We know better by now. Because we have we have dived in we have criticize those sorts of characters. We have identified them for the negative influences that they can wreak on our society. Yeah, no, I like our culture. I can I can only speak to what me as a viewer in 2020 watching it right now how I feel about it, right? I can't I can't go back in the Time Machine and say, Oh, why I was at the time. That being said, there are you know, there are movies as we know, that can last decades. We watched the general last week. That movie is nearly I it's actually over? No, it's nearly 100 years old. That movie lasts a lot at the same time. There's still baggage of that time period. So I feel like this movie has something new I'm veering off from what we were really specifically talking about, which is Martin Sheen as a character. I thought he was crazy, bonkers the whole time. From what you're saying, Yeah, I can see why she would go along with him. At the same time, he killed her fucking father and he killed like several people. I don't know what because here's the thing. You can't say, Oh, she didn't necessarily have a huge problem. Or, like, there's something else going with her internally like, Oh, she's afraid to leave him or something. Because we have access to her narration and what she's actually thinking about him. And she also doesn't seem to really care or register all those deaths. No, she doesn't. She glosses over everything that he does and sympathizers. That's a problem empathizes with him as a problem. The problem is the problem of the viewer, the the silent observer, the person who's not willing to stand up for what is right. I wanted to stand up for what is right and just turn off the movie, but I had to watch it. I had to watch it for this. You did podcast it. I mean, I have to give one positive about this thing. Martin Sheen is a great actor. I haven't seen him in anything that he's been bad in. He's particularly great in Aaron Sorkin's The West Wing, as President Bartlet fantastic man show loved him in there. So I loved him so much in that show that even if I hate him in a movie, I will still go. Jed Bartlet still love you, bro. So he's also really good in those good RX commercials, you know, where he's standing up in a pharmacy and telling people to download an app to get cheaper pharmaceuticals? Yeah, he's really good in those. Yeah, He's good. He's He's good. Good luck. I think I think the point of the film, I don't think it's just this pointless film. And I disagree vehemently with anyone who claims that it is, I think it's got I think it's got a statement to make. And that statement is fuck football avoidance of the past evety towards the problems of the present breed the problems of the future. Cool. And you have this huge change in cinema around the late 60s, early 70s. Violence, specifically. And graphic violence kind of took over the screen. And it hasn't really left in the time since it has been more or less like a very consistent thing, especially in very popular movies, especially the horror action, like thriller genres. It's it's been a huge thing. It's been a problem. And those problems kind of arose as a as a byproduct of failing to acknowledge that there was something wrong in the way that we were depicting struggling young men in the 40s and 50s. I think Badlands is just an observation or a study on that. On that failure to act. I'm gonna say my second favorite thing, which is and I quote when Martin Sheen spun that Dr. Pepper bottle, because Dr. Pepper is greater than Coke, fuck coke. As my second favorite thing about this movie like yeah, I can't disagree with you. I don't like Coca Cola either. I'm a Dr. Pepper man. If If and when seldomly. I am. I don't appreciate the facetiousness there has to be something you actually liked. Other than the the jokes that you're making the opportunities to make fun of how much I care about something. Okay, fine. I will tell you one thing that I legitimately like about this movie, there is this one and I Well, there are two instances of sissies kind of narration flashback montage that were really nice. There is one where you're gonna have to add in specify cuz I barely remember it. But one where she's looking at like family photos is like a montage of old timey photos and everything. And it's her contemplating life and the series of accidents and coincidences that lead to the events as they unfold. You know, how she was born, how our parents met, that kind of stuff. I like that contemplate of thought. I thought that was interesting. I thought that was a nice little montage. There's also one later on when they leave, like some of their belongings and stuff. I think they either buried it or put in a trash can or something. And Martin Sheen says they'll come back for it later. And it'll mean something for them later, or that someone else will find it and be like, oh, what's the story behind this? I like both of those moments. I have a feeling and I haven't seen other Terrence Malick stuff. I have a feeling he veers more into that stuff later on in his career at the movie was more about that. I want to I personally would have liked that a lot more but that's not what this this movie barely has that I mean it has some narrate it's it's it's him the beginning stages that stuff I'd rather see that stuff than what we got Jani So you're telling me you like more you are telling me right now that you like more loosey goosey freeform narrative and Eric plot mal Ivor structured plot Malik Is that what you're telling me? You know, I know people are telling me that. I know it sounds like I'm contradicting myself from earlier episodes. But here's the thing when you don't know how to do structure, but you do know how to do loosey goosey poetic shit. I'd rather see you do loosey goosey poetic shit than attempt to and fail to do structure. That's my that's my punch. You know what you would the one Malick film I don't like I think you would actually love I think you would love Thin Red Line forever reason I'm not crazy about it. Okay, Okay, moving on. My last thing to like, and it's not something really to talk all that much about and it's kind of like a small thing, but it's one of my favorites. Just the soundtrack. The soundtrack for this film is impeccable. That that was pretty good to just gout, gas and power that xylophone song that is used multiple times throughout the run time or it's love is strange. I love that that King Cole song, everything every time that music appears like diegetic Lee or not, it's just beautiful. It's so well synchronized with the action occurring in the film. And that's the thing like you know, if you want to say that he's a very poetic filmmaker, I think in film poeticism kind of involves a perfect fusion of multiple modes, multiple elements and keeping in mind like music and sound design there. It's it's elemental. It's it's very important. So Malik was showing at a very early stage in his career that he'd already gotten a pretty firm grasp on on music coordination, Sean, it I liked the music, but I don't think he had a firm grasp on music coordination. I disagree with that. But love is strange is a great song. I like listening to it. I'm glad I was there. And I thought the score of the movie Well, I don't feel like it fit the movie whatsoever. I thought it was good. I liked it. That's what I have to say. Oh, that's that score is synonymous with this film. If you ever see it in anything else. thematically, it's almost inextricable from the themes of this film. You've and you have heard it before you have seen it in other no I have any I have heard it before. Yeah, but definitely not in a film like this. It's it's always in like some like indie film like some more like Yeah, what do you think this is? Also like an indie drama D that's what it's usually not this. Oh, is it? It's a drama. It's like supposed to be like a love story between two characters that aren't supposed to be together don't even don't even do that. Oh caught up in my net got my got my got my big ol Jani net and I caught you up in it. I scooped you up and now I'm taking you back to my home. Yeah, and I hope you then I Martin Sheen took out my gun and just shot you in the back. Which time because one of those times I might I might possibly have survived if we're in the storm shelter. Also, how shitty is that? That really? I mean of all the ones that probably pissed me off the most just because like they're in the fucking shelter and you just did that for kicks? You know? Yeah. No. Fuck him. He's he Yeah, but his his characters. He's hard to swallow. He's not a great guy. I'm not telling you to like him. You're not supposed to like him. You're just supposed to be increasingly more and more shocked by the things he's doing. Let's move on to my third point, which transitions nicely because it's also involving Martin Sheen killing people because he kills so many fucking people in this movie. It's like Rambo over here. I think he might have a higher body count than Rambo Yeah. Anyways, my third like because that like that I mentioned before doesn't really count that was as Jani would like to put it a sub point is it was genuine. Yeah, because it was genuine that didn't count. So the third like and I'm gonna just read this verbatim as I wrote it is Jani is not so subtle insinuation that he wants to kill his own father based on his movie pics, like the return like this movie where Hey, we're gonna just gonna kill the father somehow. And this one Martin Sheen shoots the Father. So you know you got a theme running got theme going here. yonis father, I hope you're listening. Watch out. Be careful. Hide the guns hide the flomax. Let's watch last Jedi after this one. Oh no. He doesn't kill his father. His father dies saving him down. I'm sure you can find one bottle or movie where people kill their dad. Do you have a home movie? Um, it's on reel to reel so no reel to reels audio? That's not. Anyway, it's because we're running long because Jani is you know Jani. Oh no, this is going to be a quick part because I don't really have anything I super dislike about. Okay, here's we're gonna say things I dislike Martin Sheen. Everything about his character already spoke about that. Number two for me the narration I don't think jived Well, for the most part, it felt weird. It just it just felt very disconnected from the film as a whole. I don't know if it was her performance, or the recording like the mic they used I really couldn't tell you but something about it just fell off to me. It really annoyed me. Well, it's it's after the fact you know, all the narration is it's taking place at a time distant from the events portrayed in the film. It's not that though some reflection it's a it's a technical thing that annoyed me and I can't put my finger on it. Oh, you're actually talking about the way they recorded it like it felt like yeah, that's to say they didn't, you know, pad the walls in the recording booth. I'm I'm not necessarily saying that. It might have been like something I was thinking about was, how they didn't do anything with the sound around it. So it's kind of just through the narration on it, but then lower the sound overall, but I'm not gonna swear to you. That's why the reason why it bugged me. If I if I had to guess why I didn't like it, and why it felt disconnected. I would honestly say her performance. I just didn't think her delivery was good with those lines specifically for the narration. But I'm not gonna hold myself to that assessment. I just didn't think it worked. Anyways, third least favorite thing, which is everything else in this film? I just didn't like it. I hated it. One of the worst films. Sorry, sorry, one of the worst movies Yoni has picked so far. Jani. What don't you like about this movie? Wow. I feel like you need to explain. You're saying everything else and you're being very general about everything general. Like you're being I'm being very general. Get it? That's the movie general. Oh, wait, sorry. That's sales. People are gonna listen to this. And this. They're gonna think wow, this guy's a total Putz. No. Now that was the last podcast Blaine was like, This movie was very bad. Get it? Badlands? The name of the movie? Bad lands? Okay, so what? No, I mean, very general. Yeah, have an argument, right? You don't have an argument you just use saw things that you didn't like or that you couldn't justify? It's not that I don't have any argument. Myself. No, it's not that I don't have an argument. It's like we can do this to ianis films, but we can't do it to Shawn's films. Okay, you asked how you want me to get into why I don't like this movie? Well, you've got three minutes, Christ. Sure, you can say it has some meaning, if you analyze it, as I was watching it, I didn't really find a whole lot of meaning to it. Maybe you could put it on over, I would say and this is kind of a similar complaint that I lodged against once upon a time in the West, and to degree Cold War, but more so once upon a time in the West. It This was an actual novel. I think it could be something of a work of art, like it could be really beautiful, almost like it's almost like a Catcher in the Rye or something like that. It has similar things going on. But as a film, I didn't think it worked. I maybe that's the budget constraint. I don't know. Maybe it's because it was Terrence Malick freshmen effort, but it stuff then it click and I'm not gonna say it wasn't for a lack of effort. It didn't feel like Terrence Malick was phoning it in or anything. It's just then it wasn't working for me. Here's the thing. I watched it with my roommate. And I was like five minutes into the movie. He comes home as I was watching my myself and I'm like, I know he's gonna hate it. So let me just get this out of the way. He comes in. He's like, oh, what are you watching? I'm like, I'm watching this movie. We start watching it together. And I felt so terrible. And afterwards, he was just like, so annoyed and bombed and sad. Because it was just miserable movie that we both thought felt like two and a half hours when really it was an hour and a half. It very much meanders. It's not a and also we're just we're following a very despicable we got two lead characters. We got one who is despicable and has no redeeming qualities. And you know you can have a serial killer. You can have a terrible person on screen and you don't even necessarily need to like them. But you have to give me at least something to attach to something that I find interesting. Like, for example, I watched Gone Girl this past weekend. I love David Fincher without giving anything away, because I don't want to ruin the movie right now. But in the second half of the movie, The antagonistic character is fascinating. They are despicable, but they are fascinating. And I'd much rather watch that than whatever this portrayal of a semi similar but not 100% similar idea is if you catch my drift. Now, on the other half, you then have sissy, that's actress his name. I don't even remember the character's name. But essentially, you have this dopey girl who, you know, I like I explained earlier, I understand why she fell into the past she did. And I understand Jani reasoning. Oh, she's kind of an audience stand in a way. Well, you know what, I don't give a shit. I didn't like watching her. I thought the fact that she stuck with him was insane. This is why like going back to that novel thing. With her, she's a very much a passive character that would work in a novel. But in a film, it's just like your you are barely a presence in this thing. I didn't really feel any real chemistry between the two, because I almost felt like they weren't together. Even though they were together the whole movie. And they shared many scenes and many shots together. I just didn't feel like they were is why I told you. You want to give me a little watch. I just didn't. I just didn't feel like they were sharing the same space the same movie, even though they were so that's just a feeling and it bothered me that's ended of my rant of why I don't like this movie. It bummed out you know, it made you made you a little upset to see all that happening. Did I didn't like a board way and a board way. I need to stress that. Well, you know, that's, that's just kind of what happens has happened to the to the American audience, you know, to the American Theatre, they become totally disaffected, and they don't even realize it. And that's the statement. That's the that was the end goal of the film. I think it's I think it's there. I think if you actually ever did give it another viewing, you might change your mind about it. I know you're not wanting to do that. And I'm not going to make you obviously I can't yet but I will never watch. Again, when I possess the capital and the the muscle to do it. I will sit you down and I will force you to watch all of the films that we've watched again, you ever seen a clockwork orange, it's going to be like that. I'm going to I'm going to scratch your cornea clamping your eyes open, so you can't not watch it. I would rather you lock me in a bunker and just shoot at me and just, I'll try and like if you threaten to make me rewatch this movie, I'll try and make sure I get hit by the bullet. I'll say okay, I'm gonna like dance into it. Love is strange, right into that bullet. Knowing how knowing how you reacted to this and knowing how you're criticizing it and what your arguments against it are and just that it made you feel not great coming out of I have a great great film in mind for my next pick up so thank you, Shawn, I I really appreciate this. Well, quick Do you want to talk about any your dislikes, I just want to move on. I dislike one thing in this and I think it's just because it was weirdly covered and not super well edited together. And that was the scene where Kitt murders Holly By the way, Susi SpaceX characters named Holly kitten murders Holly's father, and it's kind of just like a blink and you miss that moment. Maybe there's a statement in there you know about how the victims rarely receive the attention that they deserve. Don't really know but it felt weird. It was just like it felt like they had to cut around the footage they shot which is something that independent films frequently have to do. So I that's like the closest I can fault it. Yeah, I get the problems but also you should have planned to have better coverage than you got. Do you wish that he had shot at more like Michael baited and bad boys when they shoot max in the beginning there's like 30 cuts and shots for like this five seconds of her death scene when she gets shot. We have like a block edited that was the problem. The problem isn't I wanted more coverage the problems that I wanted a different coverage. That was the issue. Maybe it's that they needed to cover it from a different angle. He just feel like it wasn't satisfying enough like he just wanted to see more of the file. They're dying like make it more painful. I want him to feel that just like I want my own father to feel his own death no it was literally just like the way that he was shot and then him falling to the ground it's it they cut two reactions too quickly I'm tossing it was the same problem with bad boys when Max is that her name the prostitute the hooker at the beginning gets killed. It's the same issue they look at everything but the death that's the problem. Everything before and after that I think was edited paced out fantastically. There's a palpable tension in the air when Charlie Sheen when kids shows up in the house. Dad You said Charlie Sheen, Charlie. Well, yeah, no, there's a palpable tension every time Charlie Sheen appears by having him in a different movie. It's like I keep locking the doors I keep changing the locks I change the locks on the windows I got ring. But every time I come back to my place he is there I don't know how he got it. Which STD do you get? Oh man, all of them and then some from you know, believe it or not Bengal tigers, is that there's a special STD that only Bengal tigers can have. And I have it now. But it's all consensual so don't worry. All right. I have totally lost my point. I train a thought let's just let's wrap this this thing up. Yeah, unlike Martin Shane, leaving with that 15 year old girl let's wrap this thing up. Or unlike Charlie Sheen ever. Let's wrap this thing up with many sexual partners. Final thoughts. I didn't like this movie beyond a coax my final thoughts out earlier, so I'm not going to get into any more. I'm going to give a rating. My rating is let's take what is sissies? Age 15. Let's divide that by two which is seven and a half. And then let's subtract three for the hell of it says 4.5. And then what did I give called warm? You remember? So I'd read you you were so unreasonable with your ratings. Do you remember what I gave Cold War? Oh, I gotta make sure Cold War is the worse. Okay, listeners I I meant to listen and you gave it You gave it a 6.8 I definitely fucking Did not I gave once upon a time in the west for I want to say I'm just gonna give this f 4.2 and pray that sets above Cold War. If it's not, then I'm going to give this point to above Cold War, whatever that is. Because I hate it almost as much as cold war, but I hate Cold War with a special kind of passion. I hate that movie. So much. One of the worst things I ever had to watch. But you know what? Like, this is a movie that petty little twat. This is a kind of a movie that I knew I I've gotten to the point or I know what I'm probably gonna like and when I'm not gonna like, I'm tired of people saying, Oh, this is one of the best movies ever made on I'm like, I know. I'm gonna hate this thing. I got exactly what I expected out of this, which was that I hated that piece of shit. 4.2 hate Remember what I said I was going to traumatize you. Yeah, I'm holding to that promise. Now my next pick, I am going to traumatize you. I'm going to make sure you can't sleep for three days. That's godly. That was one right? I hope you're happy. It's the mean that saddam won. It's going to make that look like baby geniuses. Why would I want to watch baby geniuses? That's a piece of shit too. It's better than bad boys. So what do we want your next one? Fuck you. Okay. All right, Yoni. So for next week, I honestly, I've been feeling a little bit bad about some of my latest movie picks, because I watched these movies with my roommate. And he's often like, oh, what are we gonna watch this week? What are we gonna watch this week, and I'm usually giving him movies that we have both already seen or something he's just not really down to see. So I took my list because I have a running list of possibilities. And I asked him, What movie do you want to watch? And he picked, he picked a couple of them. One of them was potentially national treasure. It's not going to be a national treasure. That's going to be for another episode. No, that's going to be a special. Then he picked Bloodsport, and I said, I don't know. But then he picked a third movie that I felt really worked as a good pairing with this one. And also one that Yani is going to hate. So I hope you like your narration. And I hope you like your metaphors and symbolism and poetry on celluloid film, because we're watching Cloud Atlas next week. Any reaction? Oh, I've seen that one. Do you not like it? Do you like it? Okay, you need to Sean we watched it together. I liked it. Yeah. And I liked it. Alright listeners. Well Jani and I just had a talk and, like last week, I picked the movie that Jani also likes. So I done fucked up. I want to pick another movie. This is my roommates second pick. He's gonna enjoy it. I'm gonna love it going along with the man on the run from the authorities theme of this movie, or I almost said film but I caught myself we're watching Bloodsport next week. Come with a bitch. There's just jcvd at least do like the splits in it. Oh, this is the split movie so many. Okay. I guess at least there's that. I don't have anything else to say to you. I don't want to say anything else to you. Why not disappointed me tonight? Why anyways, how did I disappoint you? You don't know me well at all You think I folks he the the what he cut out was that he had originally wanted us to watch Cloud Atlas, which is a film he knows I like or at least I thought he knew I like I forgotten liked. Do you just I know we joke around a lot here. But do you just not care about me at all? Do you just not I think about you. I get you birthday presents. Well, okay, two things. First of all, you give me shitty ass birthday presents. That listeners they are the best but they are so shitty. So good. They cannot even be described. They are drive if you all I can say is if you took Martin Sheen in this movie and made him up into like a present form. That is what Jani gives me. A psychopathic pedophile killer of a present. That's what Jani gives me and he cannot even Are you one of his favorite DVDs. I got him some great can. Yeah. Okay. I will say Johnny. Johnny did get me Roadhouse and I watched that the other day and that was a fucking phenomenal movie that I will pick later on. But that's neither here nor there. By Yeah, no, it's not a joke. By the way. I didn't know he was so far gone that he went Roadhouse is so good. It was so good. It was so good. But you're gonna hate it when I pick it? Oh, I'm sure I will. Anyways, it's Jani. It's not It's not that I don't cherish our friendship. I mean, I don't. But it's that I have terrible memory in general. Like, there is what maybe you should stop drinking so much. It's not the drinking. Like there was what I'll often do with people. So you know, when you're in like a situation with friends or like at a party or something or like small group of people and you want to leave but it's been too long and you just don't have an out all sometimes try and find a way to get into an a fake argument with people get fake upset, and then use that as a reason to storm out and leave. So I did that. A couple years ago with a friend I was arguing about Italian food. She was like, I don't see the big deal. I'm like, Fuck you. Italian food is the best Go fuck yourself and stern right out did not go back. I'm like, Okay, did that right there. And then I was talking to another friend like a month later, and he had reminded me that I had done that like two years earlier. And another situation I'm like, Oh shit, I do do that, don't I? So it's not you Jani. I'm just really forgetful. You know, Shawn, you know what, you know? No, those are horrible stories. I can't handle this anymore. Fuck you. I'm out of here. Get lost. listeners. He just walked out. walked out and I saw his whole underwear and I saw more leg of that man than I would wish to see in the entirety of my life. So with that Yachty because I know you have bluetooth headphones and could still hear me. Go fuck yourself.