In this episode of HR Heretics, Nolan is joined by regular guests/friends of the pod Colleen McCreary (Ribbit Capital) and David Hanrahan (CPO, Flare) to unpack Alexandr Wang’s MEI stance at Scale AI, the growing backlash against DEI initiatives, digging into the divide and general discontent, and a discussion of how businesses can move forward productively from this debate.
The conversation also touches on the new culture deck from Netflix! If you haven’t listened to HR Heretics episode #1 where we interviewed Patti McCord, architect of the first Netflix culture deck, live in her home, queue it up right after this episode.
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LINKS:
Patti McCord Episode:
YouTube
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ps8RKumhl4&t=59s
Substack:
https://hrheretics.substack.com/p/patty-mccord-thinks-hr-people-are-31b
Spotify:
https://open.spotify.com/episode/2nHxmrGnGFJ23ropYPc4YE?si=tWfUXk-xQQyYp5eqbZ2i2A
Apple:
https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/patty-mccord-thinks-hr-people-are-business-people/id1712407491?i=1000631849313
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KEEP UP WITH COLLEEN, DAVID, NOLAN, + KELLI ON LINKEDIN:
Colleen: https://www.linkedin.com/in/colleenmccrearychiefpplofficer/
David: https://www.linkedin.com/in/davidhanrahan
Nolan: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nolan-church/
Kelli: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kellidragovich/
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TIMESTAMPS:
(00:00) Introduction
00:33) Meritocracy Needs a Rebrand
(02:19) Challenges of Meritocracy
(04:22) Real-World Examples and Hypocrisy
(06:38) Striving for Alternatives
(09:21) DEI and Meritocracy: Are They at Odds?
(15:15) Sponsors: Planful | Workvivo
(19:15) Transparency and Context in Leadership
(21:35) Sponsors: Metaview | Warp
(34:34) Final Thoughts and Call for Unity
(36:17) Wrap
