Kinda Nerdy Girls: Cats, Comics, and Cold Plunges

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Hello, hello. All right. We're back after

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the short break. And now on the podcast stage,

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a staple with many different lineups all

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the time, but the same lovable, wonderful

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title, the kind of nerdy girls with actually

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KJ here. Sometimes you're here, sometimes

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you're not with your own podcast. It's fun.

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I think it's actually been a couple of years

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since I've done my own podcast on the podcast

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stage.

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All right. Well, I'll leave it to you. So

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enjoy the Kinda Nerdy Girls. Thank you.

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Thank you. Yes. We are the kind of nerdy

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girls. We're a part of a bigger community

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called the kind of nerdy network. So if you

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know you're loving popcon and you're meeting

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lots of people and you love having friends

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who nerd out about stuff. That is actually

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how this started. I was a lonely little girl

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who loved Star Wars and didn't have anybody

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to talk about it with. And then I grew up

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and this podcasting thing started and I was

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like, yep, that's what I'm doing. So here

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we are. You can join our community at KindaNerdyNetwork.com.

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We have a Facebook group that is Full of

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really nice nerds. We always say you can't

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be kind of nerdy without being kind. So kindness

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leads first. And I'm going to get myself

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in trouble for this someday. But I like to

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mention the fact that we have a Facebook

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group that doesn't require any moderating.

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Because people are actually really nice in

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it. Right? It's very, very rare that anything

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has ever happened that I've been like, that

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can't be in here, or you can't treat someone

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that way. And I think that we're excited

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to have people who love fandom who just want

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to explore and support other people who love

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it. I am KJ. As part of the Kinda Nerdy Network,

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we have the KJ Today Show, which is the positive

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vibes of pop culture, people to know, and

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pets. We play trivia. We goof off. We have

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fun being nerds. And joining me today, you'll

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see them on the KJ Today Show. You'll hear

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them on the Kinda Nerdy Girls podcast. My

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husband, producer Patches.

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Good morning, afternoon, whatever it is.

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Whatever, happy final day of PopCon Louisville.

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Happy Sunday, everybody.

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And also here with me, assistant producer,

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Michelle.

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Good morning or good afternoon. Whatever.

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So we always like to start off with a little

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fun fact about ourselves. So today I'm going

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to start off. Our fun fact will be what is

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the thing that you have bought at PopCon

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Louisville that you're most excited about?

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Go ahead, producer Patches.

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Well today I being the cat lover that I am

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I purchased some cat art It was a Han Solo

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and no, no, I'm sorry. It was a obi-wan.

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I

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Do I need to tell everybody what you bought

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yourself?

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Yeah. You know, I promise I'll figure it

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out at some point. So, yeah, it was it was

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a Obi Wan cat. And it was a kind of like

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a yin and yang cat. Yeah, I super, super

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cute.

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I was I was looking at that, but I was kind

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of surprised that that called to you. It

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was a little more artsy and less geeky.

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Yes. Yes.

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Yes. We love that. You're the yin to my yang.

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What about you, Michelle? What are you most

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excited about? I mean, shopping's part of

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the fun of popcorn.

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Well, I mean, I was at that same little.

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Is that the same booth? Yes. Got a set of

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four to add to our other two we already have.

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Okay, and you got the coasters, right? Yeah,

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I got the it was by Three get one free.

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So it is I'm just gonna give a plug Ewa cats.com

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is the website and it is Angel is her name

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the artist that makes all of that stuff.

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So it's an entire nerdy cat art booth, but

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I also got honey tea and

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right next to our booth. I got peach, and

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then I got the sleepy time tea.

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Isn't that funny that some people, if you

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haven't been to a popcorn, you're like, oh,

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it's a bunch of comic books and maybe you

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meet a celebrity. And I'm like, dude, I've

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got the best tea. I am totally nerding out

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about true honey tea. What did you get at

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popcorn? Bags and bags of tea.

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I would like to add to the thing I'm very

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excited about that I purchased at PopCon

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was actually at the PopCon merch booth. I

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got an awesome line, man. Oh, sorry. Well,

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I got an awesome Gallagher style 2024 popcorn

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shirt. So I was I was very super pumped about

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that, too, because I'm a huge Gallagher.

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Yeah, Gallagher guy. I got the so I think

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it was the last popcorn. It was a popcorn

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indie they partnered with. It's called Huge

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Brands. And they it just upped the merch

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game. There's Carl from Popcon.

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Oh, my God. That is Carl from Popcon.

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Woo! And the merch is, it's incredible. So

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I got the Deadpool Wolverine I Heart Popcorn

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shirt. And I got the Strange New Worlds shirt

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as well.

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Oh yeah, that was a surprise.

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So hey, live long and prosper my friend.

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So that's been one of the fun things about

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this particular popcorn is seeing all the

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Star Trek people. It's not a fandom that

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we talk a lot about on the kind of Nerdy

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Girls. And I know you haven't seen Strange

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New Worlds yet, Patches.

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Not as of yet, no.

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Calling you out for that, and you haven't

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either. But I will tell you, if you have,

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I think it's an entryway for new Star Trek

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fans. And I also think it's a nice welcome

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back for Star Trek fans who maybe haven't,

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haven't really like the other shows so far

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haven't clicked with them they were like

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oh you know what we should do we should make

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a Star Trek show that's just having a whole

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bunch of fun in space and kind of like a

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throwback to what the original Star Trek

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show was which was it's I mean it

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They've modernized the original, basically,

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yeah. And they were cycling through a lot

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of different shows, though, too, for a while.

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Yes. And in the panel, they talked about,

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like, one of their favorite things they did

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was the musical episode that they did. That

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was really interesting.

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Yes, and it wasn't when I first heard there

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was going to be a Star Trek I'm like, oh,

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gosh, like, obviously, like, that's a thing

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that has, you know, become a thing for shows

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to try out. I give props to Buffy because

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that was one of the first shows that was

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like, we're doing a musical episode. I still

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own that soundtrack. We actually listen to

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that soundtrack on road trips sometimes.

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Yes, we do.

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And actually, I have a lot of nostalgia here

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for Louisville because our very first convention

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was in Louisville. It was a KJ's Comic Con

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bus trip when I was doing radio. And I remember

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them pulling me into the office one day after

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my morning show, and they were like, we need

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to talk to you about something. It sounds

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like it's up your alley, but if you don't

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want to do it, it's OK. But we have this

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Comic-Con company that wants to spend money

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and do ads, and they're doing this event

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in Louisville. And if you would take a bus

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full of listeners down there, you're going

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to meet someone named Matt Smith? And I was

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like, I'm sorry, am I being punked right

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now? My favorite doctor, I get to take a

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bus for free with a bunch of listeners and

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meet Matt Smith. I've never been to a con

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before and this is what I'm going to do for

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my first one.

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And to preface it too, back then as well,

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the radio industry really didn't understand

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the con world as well. They thought, they

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were like, oh, we don't, you know, blah,

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blah, blah. I mean, kind of looked down on

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it. And then, you know, wow, they're going

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to spend money with us. We're like, oh, what

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is this? And then that started snowballing

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with you working, doing, you know, doing

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charity events like when Star Wars came out,

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when, you know, you did Star Wars.

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Star Wars, yes. Yes. You know, any. Listen,

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if you're going to be any way associated

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with me, eventually I'm going to infiltrate

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your world with nerdy stuff and cats. And

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I mean, look at PopCon this weekend. There

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are so much cat stuff here. And I'm like,

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it's my influence. I own that. We're just

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going to keep having more and more cat stuff

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at PopCon, so you guys better get ready.

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You hear that, Carl? More and more cat stuff

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is coming to PopCon. It's it's growing man

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the cat fandom get on board now But to kind

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of go back to you know what we were talking

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about in in in Star Trek and in strange new

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worlds the musical fits I don't think it

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fits Discovery. It doesn't fit Picard. There's

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a lot of things that would not fit, but the

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musical fits in Strange New Worlds, and I

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think that kind of fun is something that

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we missed. And I think you got a little bit,

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you talked about, Michelle, you're a fan

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of the movies with Chris Pine, right?

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Yes, definitely.

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And that was a fun adventure. It was right.

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And even, you know, Carl Urban as as bones,

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like his comic relief, like, you know, it

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was that is fine.

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Well, Simon Pegg is Scotty. Oh, yeah. I mean,

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yeah, it was.

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They had a lot of good actors in those movies.

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They really did. And there's a place for

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the more serious stuff. Like, you know, I

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mean, we love a good, you know, sci-fi show

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that freaks us out. You know, dystopian stuff

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and all that. But sometimes we just want

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to, you know, have a fun ride in space. So

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that's what the Strange New Worlds show,

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I think, has brought to Star Trek that a

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lot of people are excited about.

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When you put a bus it's a welcome back yeah,

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yeah, yeah, and and obviously you know I

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mean we've got we've got Ethan Peck Anson

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Mount and Christine Chung here, and you moderated

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the panel, and I mean they're just they're

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absolutely lovely people and

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listen and not to like bring it back to like

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you know cats right but I have to control

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myself when I'm moderating panels that it's

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it's not about me right I'm there to just

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kind of keep the ask a few questions to get

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it going and then turn it over to the audience

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so that they have their moment to ask their

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questions right and so when we were talking

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about you know I always love to ask people

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like well what do you we nerd out about your

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show what do you nerd out about and Anson

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Mount, actually, he is a huge nerd about

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pottery. Like, pottery is his thing. He loves

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pottery. And that's cool, man. At PopCon,

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if you walk up to someone and you're like,

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my nerdy thing is pottery, Cool. Tell me

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more about it. Like, why do you love it so

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much? Because maybe it's my next nerdy thing,

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too. And then, you know, we got to Christina

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and she was like, my dog. I nerd out like

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my dog. That's my fandom. And I'm like, oh,

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you're my people. And Ethan was movies. Ethan

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was movies, right? Yeah. And so when she

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said her dog and then she I hadn't even told

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you this yet, Patches, but she talked about

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I think Ethan asked her if she was going

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to get another dog, and she was like, no.

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She had some reasons for it. She was like,

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I think my dog would like having a cat. Maybe

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I'll get a cat. And you know, I'm like, oh,

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I could totally talk to her about how to

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get the right cat for her dog. This is how

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you introduce a cat to a dog. Like, I know

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some rescues. Do you need me to? Do you need

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me to get you a cat right now? I can text

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some people.

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We have the resources. All the alarms went

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off in KJ's head. I did it.

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But also, I was like, and I should totally

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tell her that I have two cats named after

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Dr. Who from the episode she was in. Yes.

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She's in the episode that Melody Pond was

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born, and that's why we have Melody Pond,

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right? Yeah. It's not about me when I'm on

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stage. So those are all the things in my

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head that I was like.

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You did very well.

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I wish I could be talking to Christina Chong

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about pets right now. But anyway, what's

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the next question? So maybe we'll walk over

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there. Maybe she can hear me right now and

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she wants to talk to me more about pets.

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Christina Chong, if you want to talk about

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pets, come to the podcast stage. Thank you.

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A couple of things that I did see that I

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thought, well, you know, let's give everybody

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some content. Let's do some headlines on

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what's going on in the, you know, pop culture,

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geek culture world. It has, according to

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the Hollywood Reporter, James Spader is coming

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back as Ultron in the show that they're developing

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for Vision. Did they get I mean obviously

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they have to have Paul Bettany back right

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yes, okay perfect Absolutely, so it would

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be that the running title for it is vision

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quest, but they haven't like I don't think

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that's right

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Yeah, get Madonna in there. Yeah.

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I mean, I don't highly recommend that, but

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it's like that's the running title right

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now. That's probably not where it's going

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to end up. But it is going to, which good,

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because remember, like at the end of WandaVision,

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you're like, well, where'd he go? So they

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actually it's going to pick up from the events

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of WandaVision. Oh, OK. And wherever he goes,

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apparently Ultron's there.

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That's going to be great though.

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Yeah, I mean, right, exactly. And that's.

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Those kind of shows we we spoke yesterday

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with with Brandon at our at the state of

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the health of franchise health and Yeah,

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we were talking about the oversaturation

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of of shows, you know like the you know,

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the actual series but It's a show like this

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that I get really excited about because,

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all right, you're going to bring Spader back

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as Ultron. Well, OK, I'm excited to see how

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they're going to work that together, knowing

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that we're going into it.

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Where's where's he been hiding? Right. I

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thought we took care of that problem.

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Right.

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But, you know, having him infiltrate the

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universe or the internet, maybe he's just

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been offline, multiverse. I'm excited about

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that. I think that that'll be a fun one.

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And, you know, I haven't, I think we've all

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been at times, underwhelmed with the Marvel

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TV offerings. But this is kind of a fun one

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to explore.

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But not just the Marvel. There's the Star

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Wars, like the Acolyte. Yeah. It didn't do

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too well, but I enjoyed it. But, you know,

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it was just a different story. Well.

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And it entertained me. And that's how we

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were, too. But when they said they announced,

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you know, that was one of the big headlines

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this week was that they actually announced,

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like, no, we're We have heard you, and you

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didn't like the Acolyte, so we're not going

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to make any more. That's fine. I'm a little

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bummed because, you know, if we switch over

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to that for a moment, to Star Wars, I, you

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know, when they were hyping up the Acolyte,

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number one, I thought Carrie-Anne Moss, like,

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this was Carrie-Anne Moss' Star Wars show,

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right? And I was like, that was rude. Everything

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Carrie-Anne Moss did in Star Wars, we saw

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in the trailer.

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I mean, they did do a lot of flashbacks.

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Right. But I just wish they would have waited

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till later to do that first. Mm hmm. Yes.

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Yeah. Give us a little bit more. Yes.

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Yeah. Yeah. Lean into your mic a little bit.

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Michelle's new on the mic. I hired her to

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be behind the scenes doing community coordinating

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stuff for the kind of nerdy network and the

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KJ today show and I'm like, Look at you on

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camera and on the microphones. You're going

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to be behind the scenes.

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Here's a mic. Go. But I think with the start

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to with the Star Wars series that they've

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been putting out, I feel like. Overall, they've

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been OK. What I've noticed is they have good

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episode. They have, they'll have like several

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good episodes within the, within the series,

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but the overall series, you know, just kind

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of was okay with really good episodes, but

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then the episodes that weren't good, it just

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kind of brought you back down. Like really,

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that's it.

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Well, and what's, I think, like, big picture

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overall, it's been interesting to watch these

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amazing movie franchises struggle to make

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the switch to the TV world, right? It's a

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different way to tell a story. It's a different

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arc.

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It's a different skill. And I think they

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went to that because the pandemic, you know,

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it started all that.

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Yeah.

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So, where everybody's streaming all the time.

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Yeah, well, and basically now they're, I

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mean, even the cost that it takes to produce

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these shows, I mean, they're making eight

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and 10 hour movies. So is basically what's

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happening. So they're just drawing out the

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story. I mean, they're just drawing out the

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storylines, I think almost at nauseam, depending.

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That's why like, okay, I'm good with I'm

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good with the, you know, setup and everything

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else. But the good episodes I referred to,

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the really good episodes, that's when it's

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like, all right, we're done trying to set

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everything up. I think they were taking too

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long to set, like, world building, like,

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taking too long.

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Well, and that is, again, the point I was

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making with the Acolyte is all of that set

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up, number one, is like, carry on, Moss and

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Star Wars. I mean, like, maybe for a little

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bit. But also, it was the the Sith origin

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like I thought we were gonna get like the

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Sith it we never really got to like the actual

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like I'm like we're gonna get some Sith action

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man like and we did it and we did it and

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I think that may have been part of the problem

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with the perception of the show that we were

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going into was not the show that we got Maybe

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we would have liked it better if we would

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have been like, they would have been like,

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this is going to be a show about, you know,

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some witches and a couple of little girls.

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And like the struggle that was actually happening

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in that show did not get us to Darth Maul.

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I was expecting like, give me some Sith,

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man.

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Yep. And I think that's what the Star Wars

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universe has truly lacked. We know the story

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of the Jedi. It's been Jedi focused, right?

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Let's start deep diving into the Sith.

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Yeah well I did like at the end where you

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see a familiar character you know at the

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end and I was like oh yay you know but that's

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why I was excited for them to do another

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season at least yeah but

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with us. A couple more headlines. There is,

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you know, the rumblings, and I think fans

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are talking about it, of getting, finally

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getting Channing Tatum his own movie for

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Gambit. So I wanted to get your thoughts.

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I mean he it was super fun to see him and

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Deadpool and Wolverine and and to see some

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of the social media if you don't follow Ryan

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Reynolds like it's just been such a it's

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so funny that it's been such a love fest

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for a movie that could be seen as you know

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like crude and out there and it's like no

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like they put their hearts into this thing.

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They love this thing. Ryan talking about

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being able to give Channing that opportunity

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and Channing talking about how much it meant

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to him. He was crushed that there wasn't

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going to be a Gambit movie.

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I watched an interview just the other day.

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He was on a late night talk show and he was

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just like, I've tried for years, but a lot

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of it's because of the production company

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who owned correct you know marvel at the

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time yeah um so hopefully yeah cross our

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fingers we will get the band but his accent

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as the gambit I crack up every time.

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All of the memes and like the comparisons

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to the minions I don't know if you've seen

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that but I'm like it honestly has ruined

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it a little bit because all I hear is the

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minions when he's talking and I'm like can

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I like and a

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Great time filming. Yeah, I mean like you

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could just tell I mean like yes, they're

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all actors correct, but there was something

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about like Like it was like this permanent

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smile on his face even though he was supposed

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to be distressed It was just like oh man

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you he's just killing it. Yeah

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Well, and I think for all of them that got

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to be a part of it, it wasn't what I liked

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about the Deadpool Wolverine cameos was that

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they had substance. They were there for a

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reason. And you could tell that they were

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all excited, like Wesley Snipes and especially-

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I was just gonna bring that up.

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I like Wesley Snipes and Blade. Yes, wasn't

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it so fun to see him do that?

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And he dropped the line, there's only one

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Blaine. We're like, yes, and it's you, and

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we need more of that. Right. I mean, Jennifer

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Garner getting to be the muscled, the actual

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Elektra that we wanted her to be, and not

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the twig sex symbol. I mean, not that there

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wasn't. There is some of that to that character,

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right? But it was so fun to see her. get

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to play that role that way and that oh my

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gosh you know I mean from Logan yes yes the

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daughter you know that was all grown up yeah

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Wait, was there any other?

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Chris Evans is Johnny Storm. I mean, I myself,

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like if you're listening to this, Ryan Reynolds,

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thank you so much from the bottom of my heart

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for giving us a little more Johnny Storm.

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I was so hoping during the multiverse of

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madness, I was like, they're going to like

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they're going to hop into a multiverse where

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Chris Evans is Johnny Storm. They have to

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like it's such a great opportunity. Right.

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Right. And so I was shocked that they did

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it because that's what Deadpool did was exactly

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what I thought they would do in the multiverse

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is like he's going to show up and we're all

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going to be like Captain America's back.

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And I know my first thought when I saw him

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was Captain America, but then later on he's

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gonna say it.

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He's gonna say it.

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He's gonna say it, right?

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And then and to Chris Evans, I mean like

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being able to like shows comic chops at the

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deleted scene at the extra scene at the end

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of the credits. I mean, I just lost it.

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So I just read about this, and the conversation

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that he had with Ryan Reynolds about doing

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that, Ryan kind of approached him and he

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was like, look, dude, we really want you

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to do this. We'll do whatever we need to

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do. We'll have cue cards, however we need

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to make you comfortable. And he was like,

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I'm memorizing this. He was so excited to

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get to do something like that, because he's

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like, when would I ever have imagined in

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the Marvel Cinematic Universe that I would

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get to say all those profane things you'll

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ever hear come out of Chris Evans mouth?

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Yeah, right.

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And he is, you know, I mean, he's a really

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funny guy. Like he's he's fine. Like I'm

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not saying I don't know him well enough to

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be like, that's totally his personality.

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That's how he talks. But that is something

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he

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Yeah, but we've worked shows with him that,

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I mean, that do where it, I mean, like you

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really, I mean, that was part of his personality.

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He's kind of a goofball. Yeah, he's a very

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big goofball.

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Yeah, so that was just super fun. And it

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was, it was funny to hear him be like, no

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cue cards. I am doing this. Don't you worry.

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And it's fun to be in a space where we're

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talking about, you know, a Marvel movie that

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we all had a lot of fun seeing. Oh, yeah.

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And it's been a while since that's happened.

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I will say I enjoyed the heck out of the

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Marvels. The Marvels was so much fun. I did

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not understand why people did not give it

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a chance. I don't know if it was because

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it was so deep into the the multi, the TV

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shows and stuff that if you didn't watch

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those things maybe it didn't translate, you

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didn't care about Ms. Marvel as much.

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But that was the first movie they put out

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that truly incorporated the television, like,

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or the actual, the streaming series. I mean,

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you had Wanda as the Scarlet Witch and, you

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know, and Doctor Strange. But, like, as far

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as blending so many different characters

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together, I mean, you know, that's, I think

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they did a good job. And I don't understand

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why the Marvel fan base has such an aversion

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to Brie Larson. Don't know I mean like from

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the from the moment she was yeah from the

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moment. She was named Captain Marvel it I

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mean she's just she was met with nothing

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but backlash and the only and and so many

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people say the only reason the Captain Marvel

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the first Captain Marvel movie even did good

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was because they had you know Samuel L. Jackson

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was in a and you know The Marvels too yeah

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exactly I

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Yeah, he was not carrying those movies. It

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was great to have him.

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I did like from WandaVision. What's her name

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was in the Marvel? Oh, yes. Yeah.

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So, yeah. And we have the new the spinoff

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from WandaVision is coming out to Agatha.

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September yes, yeah wait yep, just coming

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up here in a couple weeks I Okay, you said

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absolutely not, but I I'm gonna put you on

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the spot producer patches aka my husband

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and I feel like you said you don't want to

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do a rewatch of WandaVision, but I feel like

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we need to. No, I did not say that. Yes,

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you did.

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I did not. Yes, you did. I did not.

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I've watched it two or three times. Have

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you?

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Or more? I really, I mean, like, I truly

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believe... You told me to do it on my own!

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I said, I would do it too. I said, go ahead

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and start. No, you did not say. OK, mom and

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dad.

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Michelle, this is where it gets good when

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mom and dad start fighting.

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Yep.

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I said, let's rewatch WandaVision. And you

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said, no, you can go ahead and do that on

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your own. Really likes being right I'm just

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a token nerdy girl.

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Am I getting you on record?

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as saying you will re-watch WandaVision with

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me?

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I loved WandaVision. I absolutely will re-watch

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it.

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I know, that's why I was shocked that you

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said you wouldn't.

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I loved it. I mean, I think overall it's

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like 1-1-A is WandaVision and Hawkeye. were

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probably my two favorites.

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I've re-watched Hawkeye. It's a fun re-watch.

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I'll probably do it again at Christmas. It's

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a good Christmas.

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Right? Yeah, exactly. Well, I mean, you were

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wearing your Captain America the musical

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shirt Friday here at Hawkeye. Oh, yeah.

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Did you notice that? That Captain America

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shirt. I was so excited about that they have

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the Captain America the musical shirt out.

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Yeah. But yeah, so I mean, like, you know,

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I think, you know, I think with Agatha coming

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out, You know, Wanda, yes, we absolutely

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need to rewatch, but do, I mean, like, do

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you think that they're going to just, like,

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once the Agatha series is out, they're just

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gonna kill the character then? Because it

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seems like they're starting to do that more.

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Did you read the comic books?

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I did not. Well, I did when WandaVision was

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out, because it went, when Geek Vibes Nation,

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you guys did that.

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Oh, the MCR. Yeah. Marvel Cinematic Review.

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Yes.

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He talked about like, the guy that led that

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he was so saying that the evil person was.

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Oh, yeah. Oh, Jawan.

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Yeah, yeah. Yeah. He said it was. There's

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a different villain. Yeah, I can't think

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of the name. Okay. Starts with an M.

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Oh, Mephisto. Yeah, Mephisto.

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We all thought it was going to be Mephisto.

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Yeah. So... Not Mephisto. Manifesto.

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You know, that Marvel character, Manifesto.

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Kendall, I downloaded those comics. OK. And

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I read those. OK. So in it, like, because

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she's Magneto's daughter in the comic.

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Wanda, yes.

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Yeah. So and it was it was just really interesting.

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I would like to see a cameo of her in the

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Attica. That's what I would be looking for.

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I would be shocked if they don't. But I mean,

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to answer your question, I don't know if

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they even know. I know that they have said

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that the TV shows moving forward are not

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going to connect into the movies, which I

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think is brilliant. Because even though we're

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going to consume all of that, how do you

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bring new fans into a fandom where you have

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to watch 86 things to understand what's happening?

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They're not gonna do it. We sit down and

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look at a TV show and you're like, oh, that

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has seven seasons, I can't watch all that.

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So I think they have to do that, but they

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may have already set her up, depending on

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where they're at in their planning, they

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may have already set her up. it's going to

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be open-ended and you'll wait.

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They need to get new viewership too so they

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don't have to go back and watch all this

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stuff to lead up.

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Yeah, they've maxed it out and we as, you

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know, fans of Marvel from the beginning have

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to give them some grace to continue to be

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a profitable company and that they have to

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bring in new people. They've maxed out us,

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right? So we have to let them do that. And

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I don't mind. It's I think it's kind of and

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I don't I don't say nice things about DC

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very often, but I think You know what they've

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done with Matt Reeves. that is separate from

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what they're doing with the DC universe is

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really smart. They're like, we have this

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other thing that might appeal to other people,

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and you don't have to worry about how many

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DC movies or shows you've watched. You can

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just go watch this Batman if you want. You

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can watch that Joker movie if you want. I

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think that is one thing that you see.

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The new Joker movie, I mean, the penguins

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that already come out on Max. Can you believe

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that's Colin Farrell? No. No.

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It's hard to believe. It is. It is. It is

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super creepy.

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I don't even know if I can watch it because

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in the trailer I'm not listening to anything

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that anyone's saying. I'm not following anything

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that's going on. I'm staring at it going,

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how is Colin Farrell in there?

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That is not Colin Farrell. That's a lot of

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makeup.

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Yeah, I mean, when I hear Colin Farrell,

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the only thing that pops in my head was him

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playing Jesse James in American Outlaws.

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And I'm like, what?

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But even in Fantastic Beasts, he looks like

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Colin Farrell, right? I'm like, I'm looking

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deep into his eyes, like, can I see Colin

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Farrell's eyes in the penguin? Like, I cannot.

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This is a lie. They're punking us. Colin

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Farrell is not actually the penguin. He's

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a good actor.

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It was weird, like, when I watched, he was

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in The Gentleman as well, and just have him

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balding and, you know, just, you know, looking

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out of shape and, you know, everything of

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that. I was just like, oh, man.

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I mean, that's why they call them actors.

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Yes, exactly.

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Wow. They're really good at that thing that

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they do for a living.

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Right. And they got good makeup artists and

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stuff, too, that

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Yeah, I mean you think about Brendan Fraser,

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you know, I mean he won the Oscar and I mean

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they they literally put a cooling system

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in his in his prosthetic It was yeah, it

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was crazy

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So we are the Kind of Nerdy Girls. We're

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part of the Kind of Nerdy Network, which

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is a community you can join at kindonerdynetwork.com.

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It is a group of kind and nerdy people. So

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please join us there. One of the things that

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I always like to do, on the show, we do a

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round of binges and books and we just kind

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of update each other on what we're watching

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and give some recommendations, maybe what

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we're reading. So I'm gonna start with you,

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Producer Patches. I know you're not reading

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anything. Hey.

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Wow, that's aggressive.

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What do you have to update us on? Besides

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NCIS in our kitchen every night while you

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make dinner, what are you watching?

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My new favorite binge right now is compliments

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of one of our actors here at PopCon, Mike

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Colter.

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Are we going to talk about evil?

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Yes, it is evil. I am in love with this show.

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It is really good. We have one episode to

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go in season two and then it's on after that.

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Let's go.

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Yeah, so we have a lot to go through.

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I'm just starting season three, so I haven't

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got into it. I've been binging other things,

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like I did Stranger Things because the actors

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were going to be there. Season five's coming

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up, yep.

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But, yeah. You know, when we started watching

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Evil, I was like, I don't know if I'll be

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OK with this, because you know me. I don't

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like scary movies. I was worried about you.

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It was hilarious.

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A lot of people were. She couldn't watch

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The Walking Dead. Right.

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I was watching all that last year.

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I was fighting zombies in my sleep every

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night. I'm like, I can't do this, Walking

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Dead. You're killing me. Yeah, it was hilarious,

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the reaction to people finding out. I wish

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I'd had a camera every time I told one of

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my friends I was watching Evil. They're like,

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oh, I don't think you should be watching

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that. I don't think you should be watching

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that. I think what's, they make it so weird,

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like even the, I'm trying to think of their

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name, the demons in their sleep, the incubus.

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that the ones that were in their sleep that

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were coming to them in their dreams like

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they were kind of weird and funny like they

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weren't I mean they were creepy sure in season

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one that one demon was scary like

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coming out from under her bed.

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Yeah, the introduction to that, yeah, to

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that guy.

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I didn't like it, but when he started talking,

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he was kind of just like... He was very quippy.

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Yeah, he was like, oh, he's a little bit

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of a smart-ass, so I guess I'm okay with

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him being super scary.

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Yes. I think seductive would be... Seductive,

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yeah. It was gross.

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There's so many things that happened in that

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show where I'm like, this is so gross and

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weird and uncomfortable. Yeah.

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Well, and I think because they're mixing,

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you know, they like they they mix the Catholic

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Church in with with the science and the psychology

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that goes with it.

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And debunk.

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Right. Right. Yeah. Well, and KG, you just

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interviewed Ben the Magnificent for for the

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KJ Today show as well. And I mean, he you

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know, he he's advocating for, you know, like,

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hey, guys, let's keep this let's keep the

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series going.

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Season two for him. Yeah. Yeah. He had a

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demon. Yes, he did. Yes, he did. Attached

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to him.

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Yeah, that'll be, it may come out before,

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you know what, it will come out before this

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episode because I'm gonna put it out on Wednesday.

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So it'll be Wednesday, what is this Wednesday's

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date? I can tell you. I'm gonna commit to

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it right now so that you know. This Wednesday

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the 28th, yes, my interview with Asif Manvi

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from Evil. And it was so fun to talk to him.

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And he's done so much stuff. He was a correspondent

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on The Daily Show with Jon Stewart for a

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while. He's got an interesting career. So

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he's super funny. At one point, he was talking

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to me about it. I'm like, all right, well,

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what's next if you don't have any more evil?

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And he said, well, I did this project. It's

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a horror project. You're not going to watch

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it. And I was like, no, I'm definitely not

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going to watch it. But it was a fun conversation

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with him. He led me to, I told him we were

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going to have Mike Coulter here. And I said,

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give me something weird to ask him, like

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something that the crowd's not going to ask

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him. And he said, ask him why he does cold

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plunges every day.

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He went into detail on his panel. Oh my gosh.

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This is what you need to do.

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Yeah, I said, Oh, well, I mean, he's one

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of the most physically fit.

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Oh, boy, like people you'll ever going to

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meet him after this. Yeah, what I really

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loved about Mike was he was very thoughtful

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in his his answers very passionate, very

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knowledgeable about the business. Yeah. And

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I loved like, we'll show this to you all

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get the clip of him talking about the cold

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plunge. He was passionate about it. Because

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It's something that he absolutely does not

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want to do every day. But because he gets

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himself to do it, it puts him in a mindset

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to do all of the things he wants to do for

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the day. It was motivational. I don't do

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a cold plunge, but I do occasionally rinse

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my hair in cold water. So I'm like, I kind

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of get it, man. You get out of the shower

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after I've rinsed my hair with cold water.

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I'm like, you and me are the same, Mike.

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I rinse my hair in cold water. It's totally

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like doing a cold plunge.

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Yep, same-sies. Totally same-sies.

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Oh, my. But it was an interesting answer,

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right? Like, it almost made you go, maybe

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I... You know what? Maybe I should... Maybe

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I should do a cold plunge. Right. But, you

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know, he was... He didn't... Mike didn't,

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in his panel, have specifics on what to do

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about, if you're a fan, how to, like, keep

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evil going. But Asif was like, you need to

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be tweeting paramount plus you need to be

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posting on instagram you like he was totally

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like oh yeah And I mean, these actors, they

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go through this. The show gets canceled and

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they're like, well, what's the next project?

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And he, Asif Manvi is a fan of evil, just

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like we are. And he's like, no, we need more

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of this. And you guys need to be the people.

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Absolutely. I'm hoping Netflix might pick

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it up like they did Lucifer.

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I think it's in such a good place because

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of how well it's doing on Netflix.

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Right. Yes. Well, and again, it was a it

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was the same thing that happened with Resident

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Alien So Resident Alien drops on on Netflix

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and then you know, just like just like evil

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is now they were you know They were a top

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one to trending show for weeks and weeks

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and weeks, right? And I think that's I mean,

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I think that's great, you know, like in you

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know, how yeah like how they did with Lucifer,

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you know like Fox cancelled Lucifer Netflix

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picks it up and

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Well, that was why we got more Arrested Development.

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Exactly.

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That was why we got another season of that.

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So, you know, there is some power in the

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fandom now, which is kind of cool. It doesn't

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mean it's going to happen every time. Yes.

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But if this evil fandom is being loud and

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the Netflix numbers keep doing what they're

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doing, there is a real possibility even if

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it's a you know like like with lucifer even

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if it's not a full season it's you know we

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get six more episodes or whatever just to

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just to give it just to give the fans a little

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bit more right like hey we we like the show

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let's let's make it happen and

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and you know, a show, you know, on a weekly

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basis, and that, and, and that, you know,

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that wasn't even the number one spot on a

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show. Now, if you get if you get 2 million

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people, or 3 million people, that is considered

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a massive, massively successful show.

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Well, you know, Mike, he watches Seinfeld

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all the time on Netflix.

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Yeah. Yeah. Your husband, Mike. Yeah.

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Yeah. He's constantly has it on all the time.

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We have Hulu now, too, so we could get.

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Buffy it's always sunny always sunny.

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Yes, that started that he loves that show

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There's just one person on there that I don't

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care for very much Lay off Danny DeVito.

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I know exactly who you're talking about I

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do that to some people too. I'm sorry. I

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will watch the show with him

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You will? Yeah. Well, and that is, it's a

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different world and I don't wish it on any

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creators to figure out how do we meet the

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amount of content that people want at the

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level we expect it. That's part of the problem

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that if we go back just real quick to like

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Star Wars and Marvel is that They can't afford

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to keep making these TV shows at the level

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they're making them if they're not going

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to see a benefit from it because we expect

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the TV show to look like the movie and that

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costs money. So they can't keep doing it.

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Hi, Carl. They probably make more money.

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Is that Carl from PopCon again? Oh, my gosh.

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This is the most we've seen Carl from PopCon.

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He just keeps walking by. It's like he wants

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to be on the show or something.

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Yeah. And I cannot wait for Carl's podcast

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to come out. Carl, can you give us a little

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teaser when your podcast is going to be coming

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out? So soon is what you're saying. That's

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good to know.

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Thank you very much to PopCon for bringing

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this wonderful experience to Louisville.

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Thanks to all of the vendors. This vendor

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hall, man, is incredible.

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This is some of the best vendors I've ever

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seen at any con.

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You and I don't generally, I mean we're pretty

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busy, but we don't generally shop a lot.

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We have bought more at PopCon Louisville

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than we ever have. I did last year and this

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year. Because the vendors here are amazing

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and the content creators and all of the volunteers.

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I just can't say enough about kind of like

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that, you know, the kind of nerdy network

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is this community of really supportive people.

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Popcon stands out the most from other cons

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because it is a it's not just a convention.

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It's a community.

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Right.

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Our friends and family here. And I see that

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they're walking by and I'm waving and it's

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like all these people. I'll see you in Indy.

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Yes. Thank you. Good night. Make sure that

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you are following along with PopCon Nation

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on all of the social media networks and follow

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along with the Kinda Nerdy Girls. Easiest

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way to find all of our social media, it's

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basically under my social, go to kjonsocial.com.

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You can join our Facebook group and find

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all of our social platforms. Find our YouTube

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channel and find that magical link to save

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10% at conquestjournals.com. Thank you. Good

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night.