KInda Nerdy Girls LIVE at PopCon

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It is The Kinda Nerdy Girls at PopCon Louisville.

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Oh my goodness, we are surrounded by all

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of the happiness that PopCon brings. And

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I am KJ, surrounded by my ladies. I've got

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Gamer Katie. Hello, how's it going? So good.

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You are fresh off the Grand Theft Auto panel.

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It was fun. I want to talk about it if we

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have time.

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Oh, absolutely. And then we've got assistant

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producer Michelle here with us. with your

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big old title? What is this, like your 12th

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title?

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You have like a laundry list of them. It's

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like assistant producer, news director, CEO,

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CFO, chief emotional support officer.

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Pretty much. That's actually probably the

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most accurate of all of Michelle's titles.

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I don't know, the amount of times this weekend

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that Michelle has gone over my schedule with

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me again. And I'm like, I have that at one,

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right? And she's like, no, that's at three.

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And then I'm like, I'm doing this thing at

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two, right? And she's like, no, that's at

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five.

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Somebody's got to rein you in. Yeah. And

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it's so easy for you to get pulled 1,000

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different ways when we're here. I know. That

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you need somebody to be like, hey, over here.

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Nope, this is a three. OK, good.

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Yeah, so that's what Michelle has been doing

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and a stellar job. Thank you very much, Michelle.

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She always does.

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I hope that, you know, the cheese curds last

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night sufficed for payment. No, the bar at

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the Galt House had like this Wisconsin girl

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approved cheese curds. They were super good.

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I'm going to turn your mic up a little bit,

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Michelle. Am I whispering? No, Michelle is

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a little quieter than the rest of us. It's

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like ASMR. I don't have producer patches

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to produce because he's over on the podcast

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stage.

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Oh, he's doing his own podcast?

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Lame. Hi, guys, if you have any questions,

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please let us know. I'm down here on the

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floor doing a podcast.

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It is weird to do a live podcast at a convention

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because you're like, OK, one eye is over

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here and making sure anybody at the booth

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is good.

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Hey, listen, if we look like anyone wants

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to buy anything, we will stop this show and

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you will hear us sell because one of us just

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disappears. I'm actually gonna look and just

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make sure I'm really recording. I think so

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There's a red dot. Okay, you're good. Yep.

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So, okay. So let's talk some some kind of

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nerdy stuff Katie I wanted to ask you Borderlands

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Did you go see the movie?

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I have not and now I will not. Because it

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did not do well at all.

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What I have seen and what I have heard is

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that it was another disappointing video game

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to movie. Oh man. Like they, for whatever

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reason, and I don't get it, and I've tried

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to like psychoanalyze armchair psychologist

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it, I don't understand why video games aren't

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translating well to movies, because they

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have beautiful, in essence, stories. But

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I think the problem is that we try to cram

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too much in. We try to hit all the side quests.

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We try to reference all the things that people

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are going to get. And a lot of the things

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that tend to catch for video games, like

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Claptrap, or those kinds of things, are side

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things that are unimportant to the main story

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of the game. Okay. So, like, great example.

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It's been out for more than a decade, Skyrim.

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Mm-hmm. What is the one line from that game

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that everybody knows? You guys might not.

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We have no idea.

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My husband's played that game, but I don't

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know that. If T.O.

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is here, she can answer that. I used to be

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an adventurer like you, but then I took an

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arrow in the knee. Oh, okay. And it is just

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some random throwaway dialogue filler line

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that guards say when your character walks

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by going somewhere. So should they ever try

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to make it a movie, and they tried to shoehorn

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that in somewhere, it may not work. Gotcha.

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So I think Borderlands kind of fell victim

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to that. I know it's a fun franchise. I know

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it's wild, and it is a very aggressive and

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intense and fun game, and the art style is

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very unique, and the cell shading and all

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that kind of stuff. It doesn't translate.

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I think it's a PG-13 movie and that is an

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M-rated game. That's not going to work. So

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that was my first red flag that I was like,

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oh, we're toning it down. Okay. So no. That

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makes sense. So it makes me nervous for future

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things like Netflix or whoever's working

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on a Bioshock movie. Oh, no. That is one

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of my most beloved franchises. Yeah. Don't

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mess with that game. Hi little ladies! You

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guys can have a free decal if you want. Any

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free stickers!

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Yeah, see those stickers right there? That

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pile right there? You can take whatever you

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want. Oh yeah, and because we got somebody

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signing up for our, we've got a merch pack

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from Conquest Journals. It's worth over a

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hundred bucks. It's the Hogwarts tote bag

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and the student agenda, journal, and all

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this cool stuff. And we're giving everybody

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Sabrina prize packs when they sign up. They

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don't know they're getting a free prize when

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they sign up. I like your Return of the Jedi

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shirt.

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Return of the Jedi, classic.

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Wolverine. Go ahead and make a sale if you

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need to there, Michelle.

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Michelle's all business. We love watching

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her work.

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I know. Well, we're just trying to raise

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some money for Indy Neighborhood Cats while

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we're here. We love the cats. I've appreciated

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that the people in Louisville haven't been

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like, oh, you're raising money for cats in

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Indianapolis? No, I'm not going to help.

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They've been like, oh, sure, I'll donate

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some money. Cats benefit. That's what's right.

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We all win. We all win when the cats win

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Well in you know in terms of like what happened

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with Borderlands it did make me think like

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this is definitely if there was any You know

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consideration of let's do a Red Dead Redemption

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movie. They've been like now let's not Would

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not work as a movie

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I think that's probably why it's been so

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long, right? Because it's just so long, and

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it takes so long to get to the point of the

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game. Because you're building all this tension,

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you're building this emotional drama. The

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game's been out for a decade, so I'm going

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to spoil it. He's getting sicker the whole

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time, and you're supposed to catch these

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subtle little hints as you go and as you

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progress. You could fly through it, but you

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miss so much of the emotional depth of it.

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that like okay unless this movie is going

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to be like four titanic lengths you're not

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going to hit everything right it would be

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maybe passable or pretty good as like a series

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so that's what i was going to ask like what

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they did with fallout maybe that's the maybe

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that is the uh that seems to be the only

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the success video game that translated well

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and i think it's because they chose The world,

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not the characters, if that makes sense.

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So they used the world and all the world

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building that the game has built, and all

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the things that just exist in this sphere,

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but they did not pick any characters that

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people already knew.

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Hello, welcome to our booth. We're the kind

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of nerdy girls. Take a decal if you'd like.

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They did not pick any characters or locations

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or stories that we already knew. Because

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when you play these games, it is very choice

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driven. So like, whatever my decisions were,

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that's how I feel this game went and how

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this game ended. So it is very conflicting

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if, you know, oh, I said, I want an independent

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New Vegas at the end of Fallout New Vegas,

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but they chose to go with Mr. House instead.

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Or like, gosh, Caesar's Legion, you know,

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those kinds of things. So I think season

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two may gamble a little bit because they're

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going to Vegas, which is somewhere that exists

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in the world already, and we know what happened

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there. And it's 10 years later after the

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game. So whatever you did in the game has

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this effect on this show that you now cannot

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change. So I think it has to decide what

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happened, like which ending is the real true

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ending. Sometimes that upsets people.

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Ah yes, there's that with the gaming world.

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But also like, if you enjoyed the game, it

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is not time wasted, right?

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Right.

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Enjoy it. Consume it. Go watch the show.

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And if you like it, you like it. If you don't,

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you don't. You don't have to marry yourself

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to these things. And I struggle with that

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because I'm like, I don't want to do anything

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new. I want to just keep doing the same thing

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that I've been doing. So every six months

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I play Fallout New Vegas. And I have played

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that game. 100%, like 30 times. It's been

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out for 13 years. Wow. Right? I just souped

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up my computer to play Starfield. First thing

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I did was boot up New Vegas. Aww. I'm like,

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oh yeah, new specs, and it's going to be

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all nice. I bet this 13-year-old game would

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look really good.

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Oh, yeah. Well. You know, I mean, I'm the

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same way with, you know, with TV. I mean,

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people are always like, you should watch

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this, and you should watch this. And I'm

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like, you know, I do the Captain America

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thing. I'll put it on the list. And then

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I re-watch Doctor Who. Well, they're like

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your comfort shows, right?

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Yes, yes. Because these things are comfort

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games for people, I think it's really hard

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sometimes to let what I think should have

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happened go, because I am driving the narrative

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in my game. I can go whatever pace I want,

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I can set whatever story I want, I can kill

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whatever characters I don't like, I can take

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whatever loot I want. And within reason,

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you tend to have an effect on the world around

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you. Whereas movies and TV shows and limited

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series don't necessarily Like it kind of

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decides for you what's going to happen and

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you you have to kind of be married into that

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idea Sure, it's but you know if you're yeah,

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I've been watching these things without being

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a gamer.

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So wherever it takes me I'm just happy But

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when you I can imagine from the mindset of

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like I used to be able to say no don't go

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there Go do this thing instead and you're

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watching it. You're like, oh you shouldn't

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have done that like that would be Frustrating

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and like you said you can't fit these big

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long games into one movie and make everybody

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happy.

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We try to pick what's important and sometimes

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we don't necessarily pick all the things

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that are important, right? Like, it is so

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easy to be like, oh, we'll just do the main

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story. Except the main story is, like, 30

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hours long. And it has a lot of stuff in

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it, you know?

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So we are at PopCon Louisville right now,

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hanging out at the KJ Today and Kinda Nerdy

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Girls booth. And any moment, no, in a little

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bit, any moment now, the Mike Coulter panel

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is going to start. So Mike Coulter is here.

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Luke Cage from the Marvel world. Yes. And

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the star of Evil, which is like the big trending

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show on Netflix right now, but because it

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started on Paramount+, it actually just had

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its series finale. So on Thursday, the last

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episode of Evil dropped, and now Mike is

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here, and I'm sure he's just got fans that

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are going to be like, what do we do? How

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do we get it back? How do we cope? So I talked

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with one of his co-stars. I haven't posted

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the interview yet, but it'll be going up.

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Asif Manvi, he's been the Magnificent on

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the show. He is magnificent. I love him.

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And honestly, the whole interview was like,

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because it was the day before the finale

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was dropping. And I'm like, why are you calling

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to talk to me about how you're losing your

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job? Like, that seems weird. Like, hey, watch

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tomorrow for the last episode. I'm no longer

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employed. I hope you enjoy it. But he was.

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optimistic that if the fans try hard enough,

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that there could be a way to keep this show

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going. And I think because it's it's it's

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interesting to just kind of look at this

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big picture and beyond evil of how fans do

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have a way to revive and keep shows going

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for Jericho.

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Yeah. I mean, in the studio, all those peanuts

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from if I complain enough.

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Yeah. Right. Don't hear me.

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I mean, we got more Lucifer, there was more

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Arrested Development. It has worked. So in

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some ways, it's like, well, let's try it.

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It's not always going to work, but like,

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let's try it because it might, you know,

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and if Netflix goes, okay, y'all seem to

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really be liking this on our streaming channel,

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why wouldn't we greenlight, you know, six

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more episodes and see what happens.

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But you also have to play to the algorithm.

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We know Netflix, number one, cares about

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how many people watch it in the first 24

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hours it's dropped and how many people watch

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in the first week. Which is so frustrating

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because like... Because I'm old and I don't

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watch things right away. Right. And I'm like,

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okay, I want people to stop talking about

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it and then I'll watch it.

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That was, I was watching, did you, you watched

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Dead Boy Detectives, right? Yes. Yes.

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It was like... I watched it like two weeks

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after it

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Me too, and it was already, like, it didn't

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do well enough in the first two weeks, so

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that's all you get.

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And that, I think, is the curse of the binging

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and the streaming, right? It's like, people

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can consume things so fast, so they do, and

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then it's just wiped from your mind.

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But now they're doing it in parts.

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Yeah. And I hate that too, because I'm like,

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I want to be impatient. five episodes.

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Well, but I think the reason they're doing

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that, Michelle, is because of this phenomenon

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where they're like, they expect us to, like,

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log into Netflix and Netflix says, we recommend

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this. And you're like, oh, I'm going to watch

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it right now. No, I'm going to finish what

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I'm watching and I'll get to it.

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Typically when you log in, you're like, I'm

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going to watch X. And then you see things,

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you're like, oh, that's cool, add to my list,

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I'll come back to it.

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Yes, so I think by the time anybody caught

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on to that show, Dead Boy Detectives, which

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I highly recommend, and it hasn't been canceled,

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but it also hasn't been renewed. So it's

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like sitting in a world where it's like,

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yeah, based on what Netflix usually does,

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we're not getting any more of it, but you

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know, maybe.

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We retain the ownership rights. We're just

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not going to do anything with it.

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Yeah. So it'll be interesting. I am not moderating

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Mike Colter, but I am going to be in the

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room for that and probably be a fan and ask

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some questions. Are you too? Yeah, I'll be

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in there. All right. You got some questions

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for Mike Colter, Michelle? I don't know if

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I have any questions.

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All right. You got any? Are you single? Well,

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I'm married, so.

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Listen. Listen. He's cute, though. He is.

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And he seems so charming.

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He is. I've worked celeb photo ops with Mike

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before when they were doing, I think it was

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an Ace Comic Con when we had, it was like

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all of the Jessica Jones people were there,

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all the Daredevil people were there, and

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he is as charming in person as you would

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expect him to be. It was a little hard to

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not do his panel, but we've got our friend

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Abdul Hakeem Shabazz, who's a big deal in

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Indianapolis, media personality, and he came

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to Louisville to help moderate after getting

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a taste of it in Indy.

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Everything I can't moderate anymore. Somebody

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had to pick up the slack. Right?

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I'm like, oh, Katie just had to go and this

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seven months pregnant during PopCon Louisville.

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I'm eight months pregnant, girl. Eight months.

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Oh, that's right. Yeah. 32 weeks today. Oh

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my. Also, I learned pregnancies are 10 months,

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not nine. And the math is wild. 40 weeks

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is 10 months.

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Four weeks a month.

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Are you still showing bigger than what it

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was like two weeks ahead? Yeah. You're still

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doing that?

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Yeah, it's not fun anymore.

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At any moment you could have a baby. It's

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getting scary. Like we could be like talking

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right now and it could be like, oh baby time.

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I don't, I don't, you know. Stop, baby time.

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No, I don't think that, like this kid's pretty

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comfortable in there. Okay. So I haven't

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heard a peep and I hope to keep it that way.

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All right, and you've got a kind of nerdy

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theme going for this baby, which we don't

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know. We're waiting to find out if it's a

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boy or a girl, which I love. It's sort of

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the old-fashioned way.

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We love the surprise of it.

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I love it. But you've got a space-themed

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nursery going?

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We do. Yep. And based on the cost of daycare,

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this kid better come out a rocket scientist.

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Daycare is expensive.

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Hello, guys. Welcome to our booth. We're

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recording our podcast right now. Oh, not

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at all. Your cosplay is fantastic. You're

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welcome to any of those decals. If you have

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questions on anything else, let us know.

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And if you sign up for our newsletter, you

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have a chance to win all that cool Harry

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Potter stuff from Conquest Journal. So you

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don't have to be here to win. We'll ship

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it to you. We make it nice and easy. What's

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that? We're from Indianapolis. Yeah, yeah.

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And she's talking about a haunted house.

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So I'm just going to sit here and let Katie

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and Michelle talk to her about her haunted

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house.

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She's a chicken. She would never.

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I don't know what your haunted house is,

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but I'm already scared just to hear about

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it. Michelle, will you put a microphone in

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front of her so I can hear what she's saying?

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Come on, come join us. Come on, come on on

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the podcast. Tell us about your haunted house.

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Oh, yeah. We're a hospital theme. So it's

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just like we're very interactive. We're very

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theatrical. So there's a lot of interactive

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scenes that you can, like, press a button

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and put gas in the room and stuff like that.

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No, thank you.

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Electric chairs. Nope. It's very soft.

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Oh, no. What's it called? America Horrorplex.

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America Horrorplex.

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And this is in Louisville? Okay, what's your

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website? How do we find you?

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The website? Yep. It's at megahoroplex.com.

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Alright! 2012 Northwestern Parkway.

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Nice!

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Awesome, there you go. You got a plug on

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our podcast. When do you guys open for the

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season? September 13th.

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Oh, it's coming up! September 13th.

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All right, Katie and Michelle keep talking

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to her and all I'm thinking is this is going

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to take so much editing on my part if they

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keep talking to her. It's fine. It's fine.

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We want people to be happy here at PopCon.

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It's KJ today and the kind of nerdy vets

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live at PopCon Louisville.

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Thank you. You're a Waverly Hills girly.

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I'm a what? Waverly Hills. Am I? You did

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the whole TV show about ghosts. Oh, OK. Yes,

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I did.

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Your other venture. Oh, yes.

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Paranormal Crossroads. Yeah. Waverly Hills,

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one of the most haunted places in the US.

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Almost the world.

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Oh, that's right. I've never done that. I

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grew up down the street from there. I did

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the nice paranormal show. I didn't do the

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scary stuff.

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Listen, I argue, if I were a betting woman,

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that if I was a little ghosty, I would be

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lonely. I think so, too. It's just an empty

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building all day. So if people do show up

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and they're nice and they're polite to you,

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absolutely. Right? I'd be all about that.

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Michelle, what time is it? Are we good on

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time? I'm not paying attention to... What's

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that?

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124.

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Okay, we're good.

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You won't miss him, I swear. I won't let

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you.

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Okay, thank you. I did want, well I wanted

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to hear a little bit about, this was the

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second time that you were with the GTA guys.

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First time with Steven Ogg. Yep. Thank you,

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you too. Thank you! So, how was that? Any

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insight, any new information that changed

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your brain?

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Panels are so much fun. I feel like you learn

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so much about people as people versus their

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characters. So yeah, we did, it was Indie

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PopCon, we had Ned and Sean, so Franklin

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and Michael from GTA 5. And then this time

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was the first one where we completed the

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trio and we had Steven slash Trevor. And

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they just have this chemistry amongst them

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because like it takes three years to make

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one of these games You really end up knowing

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these people. Yeah, like they're almost like

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they act like brothers a little bit where

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it's like they're making fun of each other

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and like the entire panel we're talking about

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the motion capture suits that you have to

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wear for these games and how they have all

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these little balls on them so that you can

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the camera can track their motion and And

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how they made him run for a full day so they

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could catch the animations. And how you had

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to wear sandbags on your legs so it looked

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like you were walking appropriately. They

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talk about the science behind it, and I love

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the behind the scenes stuff, where it's,

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you know, how do these games get made? And

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is it harder to act as a motion capture actor

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because you don't have a set? And it's all

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your imagination, because it's just foam

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with balls on it, and you have a camera straight

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in your face. because it needs to capture

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all the motion on your face as you say things.

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So how hard is it to get in somebody's face

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and have a conversation when it's two cameras

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right in front of each other? And you're

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rolling around on the ground, crawling and

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going through these missions, and you're

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laying on these hard plastic balls all over

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your body because you're wearing what amounts

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to a wetsuit. And you talk about all the

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fun and the challenges of those kinds of

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things. He was like, there's this one guy

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on set, and he was the motion capture animator.

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And if you saw him, you were going to have

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a bad day. Because he was the one that was

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going to make you run 3,000 times up and

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down the way until he got exactly what he

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wanted. Or you had to shoot the guns a particular

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way. Or there's one where one of the characters

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is stomping on someone's head, and you have

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to just do it for hours and hours and hours.

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But then you get to the actual character

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component, like the heart of the acting of

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it, where they talk about, like, so this

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panel today, one of my favorite questions

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was, what were the emotionally difficult

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scenes to do, you know? What were the ones

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that were, like, hard for you as an actor?

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Not just physically or, like, because you

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have a camera in your face and you have to

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kind of ignore that.

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Is there a lot of emotion in GTA?

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Yeah, there's a whole section where one of

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the trio betrays the others to the feds,

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you know, and because he's he's trying to

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get out of the game and he's you know, he's

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whatever or you have, you know, like he's

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got this family back home and like his teenage

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kids and he he wanted to be done with this

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and then they dragged him back in and now

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he wants to be done with it again. Or you

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have characters that are just like balls

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to the wall crazy and then they crack and

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they have a moment of clarity and like emotional

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maturity that like oh this is it we might

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actually die here. Yeah. You know those kinds

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of things. Okay. And you have emotional depth

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just like you would with any character in

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any role. Okay. And then you talk about the

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fun things, right? Like, what are your favorite

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lines? And, you know, what were your favorite

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things to film? And, like, what was the behind-the-scenes

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like for you? And these guys talk about how

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Steven, the guy who plays Trevor, so you're

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wearing this wetsuit all the time. This gentleman

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would just fart all the time on the set.

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And you're in the zone, and you don't want

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to do the take again, so you have to, like,

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ignore it all the time. That's the fun stuff

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right there. And I don't know that I could

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be an actor. I absolutely could not. I don't

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know that I have the chops for that.

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No, I could not do that. I mean, the amount

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of like you see, you know, they'll release

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stuff and they show the actors in the green

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screens and you know, especially like you

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want the Marvel stuff and they're having

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their fight scenes, but they're not fighting

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anything. And it's like, pow, pow. I would

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just be laughing the entire time. There is

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no way. I could not pretend like that.

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But I think they do too, right? They do,

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yeah. You've seen the behind the scenes for

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like the prequels to Star Wars, where they're

23:27.086 --> 23:28.928
making the lightsaber noises and they keep

23:28.968 --> 23:30.669
telling them not to. Yeah. Because you're

23:30.689 --> 23:31.570
messing up the recording.

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Yeah. Hello, welcome to our booth. We're

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recording our show right now, but if you

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have any questions, let us know. You can

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Harry Potter stuff as well, if you want.

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If you don't, I'm not offended.

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I don't have the chops for it, man. I don't

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know that I could take myself seriously.

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I'm crawling on, like the Red Dead guys tell

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it all the time, the horses were not horses,

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it's like a foam drum. Yeah. It's like a

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set piece and you have to pretend it's a

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horse and you're like, yeah, giddy up. You

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know, I don't know that I have it in me.

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Yeah. Well, that was in my interview with

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Benjamin Byron Davis about Borderlands. He

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talked about how working with Kate Blanchett,

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like she was super excited to work with him

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because she had spent the two weeks prior

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talking to a trash can, like she was doing

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all of her scenes and she had to And he's

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like, I don't know if she liked me or if

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she was just happy that she wasn't talking

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to a trash can anymore. And I'm like, how

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can you do that?

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Like, I just can't. How do I look at a foam

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ball on a stick and be like, oh, yes, this

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is Groot and I need to act seriously. You

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have to have an imagination and that's hard.

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We have a great deal of appreciation for

24:47.575 --> 24:49.716
the actors that entertain us. It's hard work,

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man. Yes. Anything else going on that we

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should be talking about in the nerdy room?

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Oh my gosh. I don't know. World of Warcraft

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dropped their new expansion, so I haven't

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seen my husband in three days. Okay.

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He was like, good, go to PopCon.

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He did. Well, he pulled me aside two weeks

25:06.675 --> 25:08.317
ago. He's like, I have to talk to you about

25:08.337 --> 25:10.435
something. And I was like, uh-oh, what? And

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he's like, I'm going to be unavailable the

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weekend of the 23rd. And I was like, are

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you going somewhere? He's like, my WoW expansion

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drops, and I'm going to be playing all day

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long.

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Like, all day long.

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And I was like, oh, well, I'll be at PopCon.

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So he's like, yes. I mean, oh, no. Like,

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no. Oh, no. You know? So it ended up working

25:33.483 --> 25:35.044
out that he's at home playing The War Within

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right now. But he like paid the extra money

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to get three days early access. You couldn't

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be patient. He's like, I don't want to be

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patient. I want to be better than my friends.

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Because if you play early, you know, you

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get all the goodies first. Sure. Like bragging

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rights. He's just been obsessed with it.

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Listen, popcorn is just a whole convention

25:57.489 --> 25:59.649
about people who completely understand that.

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Like, yeah, I want to get my game early.

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All right. Well, I appreciate you both being

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here with me this weekend and we appreciate

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We haven't reviewed our own show.

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You've never even reviewed our show, Katie.

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Have I left a review? No, you have not. No.

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People don't understand. I think it's just

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gotten to where you hear it so much. You're

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like, yeah, whatever, rate, review, and subscribe.

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Literally, that's the only way that Apple

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and Spotify will put our podcast in front

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of other people is if it gets ratings, if

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it gets reviews, and if it gets subscribed.

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It's like, even if you don't do it for us,

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like, if there's a podcast that you really

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like or your friend has a podcast, rate,

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review, and subscribe. You'll make them so

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happy. Thank you so much. Follow us on the

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social medias. Easiest way to find us is

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actually if you go to kjonsocial.com. It'll

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connect you to everything we do. the KJ Today

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Show, the Kinda Nerdy Girls, all of our socials.

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There's a special 10% off code that you can

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get to shop at Conquest Journals, and we

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thank them for all the cool stuff that they

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have given us to make our booth so cool.

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At PopCon Louisville, this has been the Kinda

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Nerdy Girls.

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Thank you. Poo-poo, ba-chow, ba-chow.

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Poo-poo, ba-choo, ba-bow, bow. Thank you.

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Good night.