Sept. 11, 2024

Selling On The Spot With Authenticity & Integrity with Jane Warr

Selling On The Spot With Authenticity & Integrity with Jane Warr

In this episode of "Collaborators Unite," host Chuck Anderson interviews sales and business collaboration expert Jane Warr, also known as Trainer Jane. She shares her journey from launching "Selling on the Spot Marketplace" to creating a robust platform for entrepreneurs. Jane emphasizes the importance of ethical, effective selling and the power of strategic collaborations, partnerships, and actionable learning. The episode is a treasure trove of insights on building authentic relationships, leveraging technology, and making decisive, impactful moves for business growth.

Guest Bio: Jane Warr, widely recognized as Trainer Jane, is a prolific expert in sales, business collaboration, mindset, and emotional intelligence training. She is the founder of "Selling on the Spot Marketplace," a unique platform that has been empowering entrepreneurs globally for nearly nine years. Jane’s mission is to help business owners grow their revenue while maintaining integrity, making a significant difference in the competitive landscape of small businesses and solopreneurs.

5 Key Points Discussed with Timestamps:

  • [07:15] Origin Story
  • : Jane shares the inception of "Selling on the Spot Marketplace" and its evolution from networking needs to a thriving platform.
  • [14:30] Ethical Selling Strategies
  • : Discussion on Jane's philosophy of efficient, effective, and ethical sales techniques that drive results.
  • [21:45] Collaborative Growth
  • : Insights into how joint ventures and collaborative marketing have been pivotal in expanding her reach.
  • [29:50] Community Focus
  • : Emphasis on treating business interactions as meaningful relationships rather than transactions, fostering long-term value.
  • 37:10] Actionable Implementation
  • : Encouragement for listeners to move beyond passive learning and take real, actionable steps in their businesses.

Main Quote by the Guest: "Success comes from taking decisive action and creating genuine partnerships that align with mutual respect and shared goals."

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Chuck Anderson,

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Hello, everybody, and welcome back. This is the Creative Collaboration Show.



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Chuck Anderson here. And, this is the show where we



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talk all things business. And so as a business owner,



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as a coach, a consultant, whether you're you've got a big



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team or you're just, starting out, you're you're you're kind of



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a solopreneur, We have something for



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everybody here. And today's guest, very, very



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important. We're gonna be talking about collaboration. We're gonna be talking about selling,



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and whatever else we feel inspired to talk about. So



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I have, Jane Warr here with me today. Jane, welcome to the



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program. Thank you so much for having me. I'm so excited to be here with



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you. Yeah. I've been looking forward to this. And, you know, you and



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I just met recently through a networking event, and, we



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are both collaborators, which, I know that we're going



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to, get into in this episode. And, you know, we were just chatting here



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about how nobody really does anything alone in



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business. So it's it's great to meet people like you and,



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you know, through through things like this and whatever, we get to explore, how do



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how do we do more together? How do we benefit each other's businesses? And then



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that is one takeaway that I hope that our guests get from



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having you on. So so thank you for being here.



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So why don't we start with you telling the folks a little bit more



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about you and what you do, and we'll go from there.



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Perfect. Thank you so much. And, yes, a lot of my favorite



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topics. So my name is Jane Ward, but a lot of people do call



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me trainer Jane. It was a nickname that stuck,



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many, many years ago because of my training in sales, in



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business, teaching collaboration, as well



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as mindset and emotional intelligence. And,



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though I've certainly changed my business over the years a little bit, and we're



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proudly almost 9 years old as selling on the



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spot. That is what I'm most known for. And, yeah,



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it's been a fantastic journey of helping entrepreneurs and business



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owners around the entire world. We've had people from 44



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different countries attend our online events.



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And ultimately, we're known for sales, for selling, for



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helping any business owner that wants to bring



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their product or service, their program to others



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in the community and to get buyers, to get yeses



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so that they can move forward in business and they can get the results that



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they're looking for ultimately. Mhmm. Well, as business owners, we're



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always looking for buyers. Yes. I just had a



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conversation with someone earlier today who is a



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coach, and I'm like, is there any, is there anything you're



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looking for? Is there anything that you need more of? And she's like, clients.



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Right? And so we're always in pursuit of clients, and I think



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that's what's wonderful about some of the things that we're gonna be,



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talking about here today because the work that you do is



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gonna help us connect to, you know, partnerships and collaborations



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and lead sources and clients, and so we can sell.



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And, ultimately, that's what we're in business for.



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So who do you find yourselves serving? Like,



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who comes to your events? Who do you work with,



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and what are you hearing from them? Great question.



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We mostly serve solopreneurs or



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smaller businesses that obviously want to grow. A lot of our



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database is 5 figure earners that wanna become 6,



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though we don't do have higher and lower on both ends there.



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Because, again, bottom line is our signature event, which is called selling on



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the spot marketplace, is the marketplace where you can bring your



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offers. So it doesn't matter what size of business you have. If you're



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looking for customers or clients, we have a platform for you.



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And at the same time, it's think bigger picture than that. It's still



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networking. It's relationship building. It's building your authority



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as whatever your title is that you're going for.



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How can you stand out in this, you



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know, entrepreneurial world where there's a zillion Zoom events



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and, you know, there's I don't even know how many millions of coaches and



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life coaches and lifestyle coaches and different types of consultants,



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and how do you differentiate? How can you show



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up and your have your visual, your verbal, your vocal



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different, your offer different, and really stand out? And so these are a



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lot of the things that we provide as training to, again, get



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results, and we guarantee those results. And, I



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love sharing our tagline because it's selling ethically, efficiently,



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and effectively. And we believe that's what everybody wants.



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And, again, that's why we love inviting people to to grow through our



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community and through our events. Well, those values, I think,



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really echo who we typically work with. A lot of



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coaches who, you know, have very strong values in terms



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of, I don't wanna just sell, but I wanna sell



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ethically. I love that. And and so that is that is a word



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that we hear a lot. So how did this begin? How did



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you how did how did what was the origin story of,



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your your platform, your program, and,



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the work that you're doing with them? Yeah. Well, I think, a lot of people



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start what they do, not only but because they love it, because they need it



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for themselves. I'll certainly admit that. Meaning that I was looking



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for customers and clients and thought, okay. I'll I wasn't trying to start



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a networking event. Certainly wasn't looking to start a company. I put on



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a one time event that people loved and asked me month



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after month after month to bring back. And a year later is when I



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brought it back for the and held it the second time. And since then, it



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was monthly. And what I realized was because at that time,



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I was an emotional intelligence trainer. That was the main thing that I was looking



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to sell was 2 day high end trainings. And I thought, well, how do



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I get out there? How do I network to sell?



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Not network, just to chitchat and hug and have a nice social



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meal. You know, those are wonderful too. But how can I drive



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business forward? Because I can't transform someone till they



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buy from me. Right? And, of course, that's how all of you



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feel the same way as well. You need the sale first, and



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before that comes a relationship building. So I created this



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safe environment where we can do business that way.



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The intent with even the name spelling on the spot, which



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intimidates some, but that's okay, has always been because we want



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everybody to be proud of who they are and what they do. We are



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salespeople. Let's embrace that. And what are we trying to do? Sell.



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It's not a bad word. So it's not just share. Some people, of



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course, you know, wanna, be a little softer



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in that wording. And I'm like, that's fine if you wanna call it sharing, but



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be prepared to sell. Be prepared for somebody to say yes to



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you and to for you to move forward in business. And then, of course,



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be like a business person. Don't just conclude that sale



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and wish them well and come next month or next time



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to find new customers and clients, but nurture their original sales as



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well. And so whether that's putting it that obviously into a CRM,



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that sort of thing, some type of tool to nurture those



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relationships, it really is about building community. It's built



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building authority and leadership to grow your business. And



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so we kind of snowballed over the last almost 9 years to



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where we are now, and we're most compared to a global



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chamber of commerce, because of all the things that we do provide



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for, again, anybody and everybody regardless what type or



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size of business they have. Well, what's nice about



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that, Jane, is it's accessible to,



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to the types of business owners and practitioners and



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coaches and consultants who who are solopreneurs



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who need that, who might not join their local



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chamber. They might not even be really working their local marketplace



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all that much. And so what's great about



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what you're doing is you're connecting those dots and giving them



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that that that pathway to to get out their network



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and make the connections. And, I want I think the difference



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is those chambers often, have the networking



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and have the training where we also add the



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marketplace to do this to get the sales. And we



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also have the referral networks and tools,



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technology, and events to connect people so



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that they can potentially become joint venture partners. So we feel



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like we're providing a missing piece that some chambers or or most chambers of



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commerce or boards of trades aren't, providing. Yeah.



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Definitely preaching to the choir here. My entire business is



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joint ventures and affiliate relationships and



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now, what we call ambassador relationships. But it's really,



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connecting with other business owners and doing something collaborative.



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That's, you know, that's that's really what we do. And I think that's



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why you and I connected so well, initially, is because we're we're both



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of that mindset of, yeah, training is great. You can learn a skill. And but



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you need to be able to then apply that skill into something that's gonna grow



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your business.



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And, I always tell people in my group coaching program, we I I



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always say, what's the r word? And the and and,



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in my program, the r word is relationship. When you have the relationships



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around you, you don't really have to look for the next client. You don't



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really have to look for the next lead. It's always there. And that's what I



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love about what you're doing is that you're helping people develop



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those business relationships. Absolutely.



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Community is by far number 1 to us.



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So whether it's on Facebook or LinkedIn, but at the same



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time, like I said, using tools to connect people. Because oftentimes,



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I agree, following the cradle's principle, the 80 20 rule,



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a lot of us know enough people that that could we could build



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our entire business, our income, our careers around that. But at the same



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time, obviously, getting new customers and clients in is fantastic



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as well. But treating each person as the human being that they



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are, right, not a transactional relationship, not a



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dollar sign, but the human being. And if we're meant to move



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forward in business, wonderful. Whether or not we conclude



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that first interaction as a sale



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or not doesn't matter. It's like, who are they? What do they do? Maybe



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we're not meant to move forward in business yet or at least not



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with 1 or both becoming a customer or client, but



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maybe we will become an affiliate partner. Maybe we will refer each



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other, that sort of thing. And, again, really caring about the the individual



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and that relationship. That's the thing about relationship



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building. You can't force it. You know? Just because, you



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know, you met somebody at a networking event



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and you seem to align doesn't mean you have to do a deal on the



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spot. I mean, it's really cool when that does happen, and it



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and it absolutely is possible. But sometimes there is



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timing. Sometimes there is, you know, some some trust



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building that needs to happen. And like you say about transactional, it's



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like, okay. Well, if you promote me, great. I love you. Or if you



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become my client, I also love you. But if you don't do any of those



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things, bye, and I'm gonna go look for somebody else.



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And, you know, and we see it all the time. Yeah. And so we both



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know many people that do that, sadly. Yeah. You know,



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I I it was funny because I in the work that I do with affiliate



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programs, I had a company come to me. They had 2,000 affiliates



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and asked me, why is nobody promoting me? And my first



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question was, well, what what's your communication? What



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what's your relationship building strategy? And they looked at me like I



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was speaking of foreign language. What do you mean relationship



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building strategy? We give them everything. Why aren't they doing it?



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Right? And it's that whole thing. It's like, if you do something for me, then



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I love you. And then if and if you don't, then I don't. And so



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that's that's not really how great results are



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generated in this. Obviously, there's a transaction that happens at some



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point. Right? You become a client, pay a



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commission, whatever it happens to be. But



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I think the, you know, the relationship and that alignment with each



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other really has to come first. Absolutely. To



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to either create a win win or a win win win



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with with a greater audience. Absolutely. That's paramount for us.



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Yeah. You mentioned this perception of



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selling as well, and, yeah, I've experienced the same thing



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where, certain people are afraid of the work.



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Right? And it's like, I am not selling. I'm sharing. What



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do you need? Whatever word you need to tell yourself. But at the



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end of the day, what are you really



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doing in your business, and, who are you helping?



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And and and so what what's, what are you, what are you



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noticing, in terms of that perception



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and and why why people seem to be so afraid of it?



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I think well, partially industry. The



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multilevel marketing, network marketing, direct sales type of industry



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definitely uses the word sharing, saying, oh, wait. You know, we're not trying to sell



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anybody. We're just sharing. And I'm certainly not picking on the industry



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at selling on the spot at our marketplace and all of our events. We welcome



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any and every business. So I wanna make sure that that is clear.



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Yeah. And so, yep, a lot of



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people are taught that, and yet I will say



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and at some point, you wanna stop sharing samples with me. You're gonna want me



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to buy something, and my credit card is going to come



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out, in which case, that's selling. That's a sale. And if they



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don't like that word, fine. Maybe it's ethical influence.



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Maybe, you know, that's at our marketplace events, we



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often say, well, what is your offer? Not what are you selling, if that



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sounds too harsh for some people. What what's your offer? Would what would you like



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to offer us today? Because it could be you're offering a for



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example, it could be you're offering a free consultation, could be you're



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offering a free PDF. Right? It doesn't have to even have a



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price point beside it. But then when somebody says yes to



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that, we consider that a sale. You've effectively



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sold yourself, built enough trust, you've built



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enough interest that they've chosen to move forward with you.



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So we want people to call that a sale.



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Celebrate that, first of all. Like, my gosh. We celebrate. We



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love when we're when we go through our chat and look at how many



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sales happened. Right? How many ethical how many people



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ethically influence somebody to say yes. We're counting the



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yeses. If that generates income or



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more income or multiple failed even in the future of



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them, that's on their back end. But for for at our



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events, then we're looking at how many yeses you're getting. And, again,



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sometimes, you know, I kinda joke when you say, if the word yes resonates with



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you better, fine. Then look for yeses. But it



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is, of course, customers, clients that you're that you're moving forward



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with. Those are the human beings that, you're moving forward



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with. I think when it comes right down to measuring



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success, there is that reality even with people that I've worked with



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who, you know, don't love the word, sales. But, you know,



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if you're in some sort of a transformational business or



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your product or your service helps someone's



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life become better than it is right now,



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then, sure, there's the dollars and there's the



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sales, but there there is a life that you are transforming.



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And that is someone that you're making better. If you truly believe in your



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product, you're really just sharing how I



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can make your life better. It's really not about,



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you know, the all the negative perceptions of of



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sales and all of that. And so it real you know? So,



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what do you think is some of the first steps that



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somebody should take? So, you know, here's the reality. They're they're in this



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business, and I love, you know, that segment that you're you're,



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working with that, you know, pre six figure trying to move



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to 6. And, that is certainly a big segment of our



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business, and we have 2. We have that segment, then we have the the 6



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moving to 7. But I think we see more of the 5 moving



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to 6 than anyone else. What is your advice



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for them? So, you know, because they're



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looking for clients. I mean, they're they're, you know,



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struggling in in in some regards. What what



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is your advice to them in terms of what they should be



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doing to get Yeah. Well, I I find that many



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of the people, whether it's my community and probably yours as well,



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is that they are lifelong learners. So



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for starters, that's wonderful. So am I. I'm a



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lifelong learner. I love to learn. But also, we must



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implement. We must put things into action. We must make decisions,



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and we must make them sooner than later to,



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again, get results. So I find that some



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people will say, oh, well, I'll come to that summit or I'll come to that



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master class, that sort of thing. I'm gonna take great notes. I'm gonna learn. And



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I'm like, okay. Learn and implement. Learn



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and take action. I don't really like soft words, so I



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don't like things I try. I don't just try it. I mean, you're gonna put



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it into action, and, yes, there's gonna be a result from it.



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But, yeah, make sure the next step is taken. We don't need



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just more and more pages of notes. That's not gonna get the



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sales. That's not gonna get the results. And, again, if somebody's looking to



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transform their somebody's life through that sale,



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then inaction needs to happen. So it's not to join



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another community, join another networking group, join another



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membership, but look at which ones are getting you the



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results and commit to them. Maybe pick a top 3. Of



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course, we suggest ours. Have one of those. And be



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full in. Don't just, again, try one little



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action for an hour here and expect the world from it. But



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really look at how can you dive in? How can you



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be an active member? Because that's how you're gonna



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again stand out as an authority, as the leader that somebody would turn



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to, especially when there are so many of the same



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profession as that individual in front of us. And why should



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we say yes to that person? Why should we move forward with them? And,



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of course, in our marketplace, then it's why should we move forward with them today.



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You know, with so many different things, especially with



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networking, you get out of it what you put into it.



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And, you know, when you say, oh, I'll give it a try,



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it's almost like you're giving yourself permission to fail



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and and almost deciding on that failure. It's okay if I



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fail at this. So, you know, there's



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really no result I need to get from it



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versus this looks like the right thing for



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me. And, you know, I'm I'm gonna give myself



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fully and completely to it, and let's let's, you know, let's see



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what is attracted from from doing that. And, you know, you,



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there's an energy. There's a vibe. I mean, people know when you're trying.



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Right? Or, or when you're not giving,



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completely, of yourself. And, you know, I think, you know, of



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all the work that we do with collaborations, I think, first of all, there



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needs to be, you know, that alignment. But, also, I think there's



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this underlying thing, like, you know, is this person gonna do what they say



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they're gonna do? Is this person an action taker, or am I gonna be doing



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all the work? And I know that's certainly in the back of my mind because



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we've had the, you know, we've had the things they would love for me to



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do everything. Of course, they would. And



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so, you know, so there's certainly that.



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So, you know, you and I are both very pro collaboration,



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very pro networking. You know,



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how is, you know, collaboration played a role



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in the growth of your business? I mean, obviously, you're helping



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facilitate, you know, connections and potential collaborations



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with your members. But how did it help you to actually



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establish this in the first place? Like, did you know, I'm I'm gonna assume you



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didn't do it all yourself or maybe you did. So



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No. All my success has been through other



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people and and deliberately or especially through



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some type of whether we call it collaboration or a joint venture



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or partnership. So for example, 5 years



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ago, I created the licensing model for selling on the spot



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marketplace. I've always done things by demand. As soon as



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somebody said, hey. This looks fascinating. Would you ever franchise this? Would you



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license this? I'm like, okay. That sounds exciting. Right? There was a



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demand for it, and then it became something to create



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in partnership with another person that would be an ideal candidate



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because together, we could do more. Right? And that's actually how we've grown



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into other countries and how we've had people from



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44 different countries around the world come to us because it really



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has been about word-of-mouth, maybe email marketing, that sort of



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thing in partnership with other people. And then



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further than that, twice now, we've done what are



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called bundles or some people are familiar with them as super stacks, that



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sort of thing. And we've done 2 this in the in under



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a year now, and they've been game changer for for us.



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So, for if somebody's not familiar with the bundle, it means that



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several people come together and each provide something of value.



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So not just a free lead magnet, but it might be 3 months



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of membership, for example, or a workshop or



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ticket to a summit, that sort of thing, something that has a real value that



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they're selling outside of the room. And everybody, to your



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point earlier, where you wish everybody would participate,



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to the degree that they've committed to. So, for example, we had a bundle



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recently where 20 of us were each marketing it,



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And, therefore, all 20 of us would get the benefit



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of that email marketing cam campaign. And, again, together, we



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can serve so many more people. So that's really been a



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game changer for us is kind of that, go



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bigger sooner, say yes to more things, figure out how to make



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it happen. We partnered with a company that does all of the tech.



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So it's not that my team and I had to had to do it all.



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We we found the amazing, company called Infostack to partner with.



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And, yeah, that that really made such a monstrous



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difference because, again, instead of that kind of 1 +1



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equals 2, I I don't just say the 1 +1equals11, but 1



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+1equals111. Because it it honestly feels



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like those types of, campaigns that we've



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done have just changed things so dramatically



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for us. More like a 111 times the result,



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right, and not just double or triple. And that is the



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power of a great relationship, a great partnership.



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It it it's not just the sum of all parts. It is



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exponential in a lot of cases, which is



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exactly what you just described there. By the way, we know the info stack people.



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We love them. And so hi, Carrie, if you're listening.



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And so, so what what do you look



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for in a someone to



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collaborate with or a partner? I mean, do you sort of make a list



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of all of the things that you need and go looking for them, or does



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it more, coming to you and saying, oh, okay.



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There's an opportunity here. I'm gonna follow that. What's your approach to



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collaboration? What do you look for in the ideal person to collaborate



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with? Mhmm. Thank you. Another great question. And, again, I seem to



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always have a 2 or 3 part answer that I wanna give you with everything.



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So one part is if I'm looking for a joint venture partner is, again, where's



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the win win win? Not just for the 2 of us. So for example, this



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interview right now, where this is not just helping you and me, but, of course,



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our communities. How can we serve more people from



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one small action? And to me, that's awesome because then we



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can affect far more lives more quickly. At the same



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time, I've also partnered, with a company called My Most Trusted.



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Not too sure if you're familiar with that one. We white labeled their program.



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So ours is called the Global Nexus. So that's the one that we talk about.



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So that's the tech. That's the tool that I made reference to earlier. That's our



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number one, tool. It's our Chrome extension, again, called the Global



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Nexus. It's free for everybody. We don't wanna charge for that, so we give it



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to everybody for free to install and to use.



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And we even started, hosting 5 day



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referral challenges. And so that's an example of a



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phenomenal collaboration and partnership



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because, again, we're serving so many more people,



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so so much quicker than we have in the past.



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Affiliate partners are helping bring more people to the 5 day referral



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challenge because they're seeing the benefit. And so it's kind of snowballed



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into something really wonderful. And I don't have a problem sharing



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that when I created the 5 day referral challenge for the first



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time, I honestly don't remember what month, maybe March or April,



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it was to serve my community. We have we already had this global nexus



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Chrome extension. A lot of people were not using it because they



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didn't know what to do with it. I always think about how can I



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help people first? If and when that helps



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financially, awesome. Obviously, I need to grow my business, so I need to



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care about the income, but I genuinely care about my people first. So I just



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said, let's all jump together. Let's do this workshop style,



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learn the tech, implement it. Again, that's that taking action.



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I didn't wanna just do a 1 hour training. I said, let's do a 5



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day referral challenge. And they loved it so much. And what I



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to the degree that then they said, okay. So how do we buy this?



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How do we get membership? How do we do more with you? And quite frankly,



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I realized that that was a phenomenal tool for us to



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convert into membership where I'll



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admit, I'm like some people where I was kinda like, woah. I wasn't



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even trying to get that many sales and that. Right? But at the same time,



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I can't help people till they buy something. So, of course, we celebrated



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the wholesale. We celebrated all the new members that joined through that, and



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that's a program to repeat. And these are the things



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I now love to teach or even more so I teach, including at a 3



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day event that we have coming up, is I kind of fell



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into that and almost fumbled forward into a phenomenal



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tool, in regard to converting to membership.



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But now I teach that because I want everybody else to learn it as well.



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That's another very valuable skill to learn and,



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especially for anyone who's got great content and and,



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they don't know how to package it up and sell it. I mean, that's that's



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definitely worth checking out. We're almost out of



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time, but I wanna make sure we do a couple of things. First of all,



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tell everybody how to connect with you and how to learn



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more about your program. Perfect. Thank you. So



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whether they're looking for me directly, again, I'm known as trainer Jane.



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You can find me all over social media. Selling on the Spot



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Marketplace, a full long name there. That is our domain,



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selling on the spot marketplace.com. Most people come to our



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marketplace events first. That's how they get to know us, like



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us, trust us, and decide that they want more. And then, of



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course, we do invite people to membership,



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because that's where, again, if you really commit, if you



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really jump in, it gives you the opportunity to



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have everything that we offer at a



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dramatically reduced rate. And, of course, our focus is



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to get everybody resolved. Fantastic.



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Well, if you're watching this on video, just check right



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beneath the video. All of Jane's links are right there. And if you happen to



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be listening to this on podcast, just click into, Spotify or Apple



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or whatever you're listening this on, and all of her links are right



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there as well. And so May I may I jump in



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and actually give them a free offer? Oh, that would be great.



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Absolutely. Because, again, we would rather people



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come and join us and try us out and jump



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into the marketplace, see what we provide, but I would rather go



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bigger than that and actually provide 3 months of



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professional level membership completely for free.



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So that has a huge value because we'd rather like



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I said, we're going into the high season this time of year,



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and we would rather everybody to make that commitment. So we're happy to give



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3 months for free. I have a tiny URL. I don't know if,



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That was tiny URL forward slash membership e



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a. EA for your company name. And so



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for those that want to take us up on that, it literally is just add



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your name and your email address in your end, and it's been



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our commitment to help them grow their business. Super



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generous, Jane. And I think the timing is good, especially and



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we'll make this as evergreen as possible. But I will just say that it is



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towards the end of the year right now, and we always look at this last



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100 days sprint to the end of the year.



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What a great way to take advantage of



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a 3 month free trial, a free gift



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here, and use that to really propel



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your business forward as we, get to the end of the year



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here. Super generous. Of course, that link is beneath this



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video in the podcast player there as well. Go and



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take advantage of that very generous gift. Now, Jane, before I let you



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go, bit of a social experiment. We started asking,



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a while back, our guests, while we have them here,



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for book recommendations. Books have been, played a big role



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in, you know, the growth of my business and the growth of myself.



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And, you know, I certainly have my favorites. But, if you



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were to recommend a a must read book or a favorite of yours,



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what one would you recommend? Well, hopefully, many people have



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already heard of this one. I definitely recommend who, not



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how. Oh, Dan Sullivan. Okay. Absolutely.



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Absolutely. Total game changer for me. Again,



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that goes with that collaboration piece is who can you collaborate with? Who can



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you, partner joint venture, do a strategic alliance



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with? You know, who would be interested as a licensee facilitator? It's



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all about the who's. It's all about building that relationship, and



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not how can I earn more money or how can I grow my



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business, but through whom? And and that



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partnering is I believe is kind of like that 10 times



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your business. Everything can happen so much



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faster, easier, and, why not have more fun



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growing your business? Absolutely.



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And great book recommendation, and it fits the theme of our



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conversation so incredibly well. And so that's who



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not how, Dan Sullivan, the links, to that book, or



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and my favorite is the audiobook. I just love I could listen to Dan



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all day long. And, so all of those links are there as well.



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Jane, thank you so much. This has been great. You and



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I could probably do this all day long and teach a master class



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on collaboration. Hey. But, of course, that's what we both do for our day



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job. So so so there we go. Any final



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words of wisdom or piece of advice for our listeners as we sign off



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here? Yeah. If you haven't, put down



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your goals for the last well, the next quarter, let's



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say, then then do so. Put



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things down on paper. Put it in ink. Really think about your



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why. Where are you in your goals for the year? And, again,



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who do you wanna move forward with to get to those



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results? Because there's lots of options out there, but



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to get focused and get serious, and don't be surprised when you



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get the results too. Yeah. I love that.



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So that, you know, that is a great way to conclude



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this episode. Jane, thank you so much for for being an amazing



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guest. And and, we we definitely look forward to doing



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more, collaborative stuff with you.



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And, and also, you see you as a great person to learn from



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and to collaborate with, and so we recommend you highly,



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to our audience and to our community.



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And so to our audience, thank you for being



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here. And, of course, I you know,



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knowledge without action doesn't help at all. So I'd



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like you to take one thing that you heard,



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either Jane or I say today or that you were thought of or that you



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were inspired by, and I want you to take that action today.



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And, and so maybe it's something you've been putting off for a while. Maybe it's



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a phone call you need to make. Maybe it's just go and get that 3



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month trial from Jane. We've made it super easy. The link is



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right there. So so go ahead and do that. And in the



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meantime, remember, the only way to fail is to quit.



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So keep moving forward, and you may be just one collaboration



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away from that big breakthrough that you need, in your business



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that's gonna give you all the the the clients and success that you're



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looking for and ultimately joy and happiness in your life as well. Thank



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you for being here. This has been the Creative Collaboration Show with Chuck



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Anderson. My guest has been Jane Ward, and, we'll see you on the



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next one, everybody. Thank you.