Unlock Your Multi-Million Dollar Potential with Amanda Bedell

Hello, everybody, and, welcome back to the Creative Collaboration Show.

Chuck Anderson here, and this is the show where we help,

business owners, entrepreneurs,

of all types, different phases of business,

you know, to really navigate, you know, the the growth of their

business. And, you know, so many of us start our

businesses to create financial freedom for ourselves, create

financial freedom for our families. And, one of the

measuring sticks that we have for that is is is is

the size of our business or our annual sales, and and and it's

commonly referred to as a 7 figure business that we're prepared to you know,

that we're that we're pursuing building here. And

today's guest not only has developed her

own 7 figure businesses, but helps others

navigate the growth of their business to 7 figures and beyond as

well. So today, I have Amanda Bedell with me here

today. So, Amanda, welcome. Thank you. Thanks so much for

having me, Chuck. Oh, I am so thrilled that you're here, and this

is this is a topic that we get asked about a lot.

What does it really take to get to 7 figures and

beyond? And, of course, everyone is in awe

of people who've actually done it. And and so

so we wanna unpack your story and kinda, like, learn from you

and, see what you recommend in terms of, in

terms of that pursuit. So, I think a best place

to start, because I am not gonna butcher your introduction at all.

I'm just gonna have you do it. So tell everyone a little bit more about

yourself, your background, and how it led you to do the work that you're

doing now. Sure. I like to share a

story. A lot of times, I start with a story about

really the end of my business. I

had, wrote on my Facebook page in

August of 20 18 this

quote, if you will. And it said on there it said, in the

review mirror of life, I will be able to look back on this

time and see that these experiences helped me receive my heart's

desire in grace and in perfect ways.

That was code for shit's hitting the fan.

Oh, am I allowed to say that here? Go for it. This is not for

children. That was Amanda's

code for nothing is going right. I

had through the series of almost 7 years,

I had made a series of decisions that had ultimately led

me to very little profit, but

a business that was generating 2.2 in annual

2,200,000 in annual sales,

but little profit. So I wasn't paying myself.

I was, in 4 credit cards of debt. I

had emptied my 401 k. I was literally out

of personal capital. So the story

there is, the it's it I have

many stories within that. But, you know,

kind of going back to where you started in the introduction,

that we all have this idea when we start entrepreneurship or

starting our business that we're going to make it to the $1,000,000

revenue mark. If we make it to the $1,000,000 revenue mark, we're gonna have a

business that Creative us what we want, which is financial freedom.

And then with financial freedom, we have options. And one of

those options might be more time with our family, with our friends, with

whatever we feel is important. So those are the really the two reasons

why we start businesses. 1 is financial freedom,

but the other and and the hopes that we can make more money

than we ever could working for someone else. But the other reason is

that we might have that sellable asset at the end that, okay,

if we work really hard, maybe we could build something that we can sell.

Well, I have that same, my bakery

story then is that I had all of this this

revenue, lines out the door. It was a very popular place,

but it relied on me 247.

It it didn't have any net profit. So at the end of the

day, when I sold my bakery, which it

was, a successful sale on paper, it was far

less than I could have lived on for any like, even a year

after paying off all my debts. So

what I'm saying there is that why we go into business is

literally flawed from the beginning because we don't know how to accomplish the two

reasons why we go into business. So that's what I'm here to do

is to share from my the ashes of my failure that

there are ways to go about it in a much smarter

way and to hit those two things that we want. Mhmm. You

know, I can relate to so much to your story. It reminds me of of

of of some of my stories of which I also have multiple.

And I remember the first time hitting 7 figures, adding it all

up at the end, and realizing I paid $50,000

for the privilege of doing over $1,000,000 in

sales. And it's like, wait a minute.

Isn't the point of this to make money? Isn't this the point you know,

like you said, we wanna take care of our families, and we wanna, you

know never mind leave a legacy. Like, we we do

we hear of that a lot as well, but even just being profitable,

but to actually pay for the privilege, I would have been further ahead to just

have a job. And and, you know, these these yeah. This is

it it reminds me of that a lot. And so

so what was the kind of the transition out of that? So what did you

do? Like, so the you know, so you have this business. You're working

247. My my gosh. I can relate to that. Mhmm.

And, and so you're realizing it's not profitable.

What do you do? Well, I panicked for

about 2 years straight, and put even more of myself

into it, to the point where, you know, I was stressed.

I maybe slept 3 hours, 4 hours a night.

I had 3 shifts running at the bakery. I had 15

employees. I was running 247. But

what I found, so I found the

10,000 small businesses program through Goldman Sachs,

and there is where I found

colleagues that were like me. I had been on the

search in my panic for, information for

business of what I call the business 2 point o. I've already

started my business. It's successful. I've got lines out the door. I don't need

customers. I need systems, and I need

a way to get to profitability.

And I couldn't find that information anywhere. I

did get into the 10,000 small businesses program,

and that helped me in some sense. But,

really, it was the peers that really made that

whole journey worth it in the end for me, because I

got to get to know someone someone specifically named Tim, who

I talk about a lot in my stuff. Tim was

there in my corner, and he's the only person I told

the truth to. So, I didn't

believe in business coaches at the time. I didn't really know what they were,

to be honest. I thought maybe that would be like therapy, and I didn't

want therapy. I wanted results. I wanted, someone to help

me, like, get more profit in my business than anybody that I talked to

that seemed to be in the coaching realm. It was more questions and

and getting the information outside of me, and I was just, like, really

frustrated with that idea. And then business consultant, that

kind of role, seemed to have a, to

me, a stigma around it costing too much and that I wouldn't be able to

afford it. So I guess

through that whole experience, what I ended up doing

was leaning on a personal

friend who helped me kind of get out of

my spinning. So I would talk to him. He was the only person that knew

everything that was going on. But,

what he did want on that August day that I

alluded to at the beginning of this conversation was he said

something to me that stopped me in my tracks and made me stop

spinning. He said, why are you fighting so hard for this

when you have so much more to do?

Until then, I had I had no idea I had more to do.

I thought that the my whole world, everything

was wrapped up, my ego, you know, my my friends' and

family's money. Everything was wrapped up into this

company, and I was fighting for something that wasn't serving

me. It's almost like I got everything that I needed

from it, and I needed to step away. So he is the one

that really woke me up. And that's when I started to realize

the power of having somebody who knew the truth

behind everything, in order to wake you up

because you can't read your own message when you're inside your own bottle.

I've heard that from somewhere. I don't remember where.

But, yeah, you can't read the message when you're inside the bottle. So having

that outside person helping me see that really what

I was doing was just running myself ragged in Anderson the ground with this

company. And it didn't mean that the company wasn't awesome and successful.

It just mean it meant that it needed to live beyond Amanda at this

point. I love what you just said.

Like, having that business that you know,

beyond Amanda. Right? And that I feel so, you know,

so similarly about, you know, some of my businesses, and it's so easy

to create that full time job, that 247. Like you

said, your ego gets so attached to it. I mean, it's this thing

that you created and you pour so much into,

and I do not quit easily. Right? It I don't my

mantra is always the the, you know, you only fail if you

quit, and and so I just cannot allow myself to

quit. And, you know, there's there's pivots.

There you know, we we do evolve, but I don't quit

very easily. And, you know, the business that I was in, I

definitely should have quit and and eventually did once I found something

better. But, but, you know, that that is

that's it. I mean, as entrepreneurs, we care so deeply for our business.

Mhmm. And I love the fact that you had this this confidant, this this

this friend that you could really be honest with because entrepreneurs, when

we get together, you know, and we we talk about how well

it's going and the new offer that we just created and, you

know, this new promotion that we're so excited about. And Mhmm. You know,

the the future, that horizon that we're trying to

get to, we're always self promoting, but then to

have an honest and real conversation with a fellow entrepreneur that

gets it Mhmm. That's rare. Yeah.

It is. It's super rare, and it's super hard

to let someone in like that. And I gotta say

it's something that I still work on. I have 4 coaches

now, and they know that when I get

quiet, that's when something's going on. Because I still

I just shut up, and I just, like, work. I'm, like, just go go

go go go go go. Just don't stop. And,

what I'm learning is that when I breathe,

a, like, actually take a full breath,

which a lot of us when we're in scarcity mode can't do.

But a lot of things kinda start to shake out.

Yeah. You know, we're we're very similar in that in that regards because

that's what happens to me too. I I just put the blinders

on. I focus. I stop talking. It's,

and which is weird because I talk for a living. Yeah. And and

Me too. It is a little bit, tough that way.

But, I totally get it. So so going through

this experience, you know, the and and now

this turning point into the work that you do now, and that's helping

other people navigate their journey through

building and operating a 7

figure business. Mhmm. You know, who who who are

you working with? Who's coming into your world,

looking for your help in navigating this? Because now with this

wisdom and the, you know, the what to do and what not to do

and some of the things you you learned about in your business, you're now

helping people with. Mhmm. What are you hearing? Who are who's showing up,

and, who are you working with? Yeah. And, you know, it did take

a while. It took, because right in the middle, it

was the pandemic too. So it took me 3 years to

really transition. And I'm gonna that

the word failure was a word that I couldn't

bakery business even though it was successful

fail on paper. All of my debts were paid.

I had a little bit left over to live for a minute.

I still let go of what was something that I I really

loved and I build from nothing. So I

didn't jump right into where I am today,

just to clarify that. It's been more than 3

years now. Show several years during the

pandemic, I also had a life,

like shaking moment where all of that stress from the

bakery, all of the things that I was doing to myself and my body,

had resulted in me having cancer. So

I did cancer treatment during the pandemic. It was 2

full years. And, I ended up living with my

parents, and I spent a lot of time alone.

So because during the pandemic, no one could come

with me during my treatments or any of the surgeries I

had, I had to I Show I

spent a lot of time alone. And I I guess I just wanna highlight that

piece of, there's there's time

in between that. It's not like you shift and you're just

like, okay. Let me, sell, you know, sell myself as

some kind of business consultant or coach or whatever you wanna call

me. I've been earned the title of business chaos

sorter. That's how my clients like to call me because no

matter what, when they talk to me, they know what they need to do, and

I kind of help them remove all of

the distractions and the chaos of what they deal with every day. And

each week, they know exactly, what they deal with every day. And each

week, they know exactly, like, the one thing they have to do that week to

move their business forward even though they're working in multiple different areas of

their business and being pulled in many different directions. They know that they can

feel that sense of, of, growth

and and moving on to the next step, whether that be

profitability or financial freedom or whatever we're trying to get to.

Right? So, sorry. I bypassed that just slightly.

No. That's no. It's good that that we that we talked about that

because that that's a critical part of the turning point. I think we

we we started touching on it but didn't finish that because,

you're right. There there is it's not like flipping a light switch.

It's not like, oh, well, this business didn't work. That

switch is off, and I'm gonna go start this other business

now. Switch is on. And when you really become attached

and you really, work a business for a long time and you

pour everything you have into it,

there is that difficulty letting go. Mhmm. And

the next phase, the next idea doesn't necessarily

come right away. Right away. It's like there is

this transition period. And so the pandemic was an

interesting time for a lot of reinvention, a lot of pivots.

Mhmm. And, not only did you experience that in your

business, but with your health as well. Yeah. I mean,

what what was the message that you really got? And, you know, and and I've

never had a in a health situation, like that. What what

was the what was the the sort of the turning point or the wake up

call and say, you know what? Like, I'm really going to do things

differently from this point forward. For me,

it it to be honest, it had a lot to do with abusing my

body, with alcohol. Mhmm. So I would over drink, which

I know a lot of entrepreneurs do that. They hide their

their fears in potentially in alcohol or other

recreational drugs or maybe not even recreational drugs.

So the the entrepreneurship

population can use,

crutches, if you will, at more of a a

higher rate than those that do other things.

Also, entrepreneurs have a higher suicide rate,

than other people in different, you know,

work life situations. So it's really

important, I guess, for me to call that out.

That's my wake up call was that my life is

really important, and I have a lot more to say, and I'm not done

yet. So as I was working through my cancer

treatment, even in the moment even though in the

moment, I was just worrying about the next step. So I was very

intentional about steps. Like, I'm not thinking ahead. I'm just

gonna work on the next step, the next step. What am I doing next? You

Show? And not, forecasting the future. But I

was also, healing from the

experience that I had put myself through those 7 years and

kind of the hole that I dug myself into when it came to reliance on

alcohol. So that was the biggest shift that I

made post pandemic and post cancer is

that I no longer do that with my body. I,

I believe that that's poison and that

my brain and everything works so much better, and I can

fulfill my purpose at a

better capacity when I'm at at a 100% or more.

You know, I've had so many experiences, with that, especially with

fellow entrepreneurs who who, you know, did take

things too too far. And and, you know, I

it's so easy when you go to events and you get around other entrepreneurs and

you're socializing, and and it's so easy, you know, for

things to, to to get out of

control. I mean, there's the annual summits that we go to in the affiliate marketing

industry that are considered to be, like, the big party every year.

And, and so when the party start, I go back to my hotel room.

And so, so that is something I also learned because I

I like being able to think clearly. I like to be able

to, you know, to to be able to have all my

faculties and to be able to process ideas. And and

yeah. Right? It really diminishes our ability to do that

when Yeah. When alcohol and and other substances are in

involved. And it may seem like you get all these wild and crazy

ideas when you're under the influence, but the day

afterwards and how much time I lost Mhmm.

Recovering in you know, recovering from that night

out. Yeah. I just say that I had my life quota.

I met my life quota early. Mhmm. Really.

But, yeah, that was the biggest shift for me. Mhmm. Yeah. It's a it's it's

a huge turning point. And, you know, having, again, you

know, given up, giving up alcohol as well, it

it it made a huge difference in terms of the

productivity, the focus,

the be you know, being able to actually, you know,

follow through on on on some of the the

plans and not have them sort of, derailed or or just,

you know, doing this over here and then doing that over there. I mean, the

focus is just so so huge. So, you know,

I I can really relate to that as well. Well, so

let's let's talk a little bit about who you're helping now.

And, and I know you have a program, the the the 5

day focus that really helps as well. Let's let's make sure we

have that in there, and then unpack a little bit about what people learn from

that. So let's let's talk a little bit about, you know, who you're serving,

and then and then and then we'll get into talk about the event a little

bit. So Sure. Yeah. So I,

most as I shake out through you know, when you first

start a business like this, you're kind of just going with anybody that

comes to you. So I've worked with over

300 businesses now in almost every

single industry, and I found a

passion more for those in trades, those

that, like, they build stuff, they

make, you know, floors or the plumbers, the electricians,

Absolutely adore working with women who are in those,

sectors because a lot of times women in

the trades are the people who are, they're

single mothers or they migrated to this country for a

better, life. They're this those types

of businesses as well, they're, the easiest ones to get

started. They're low barrier entry. You can start a

landscaping business with very little,

money, cleaning business with very little money.

So, that's what who I love to work with. I love to see them

flourish. A lot of what I do is

I simplify, the complexities of business

through a lens called the 5 part framework.

And that 5 part framework kind of strips away this idea that

we have to have all of these different things. I

know one of the things that you talk about, you know, is,

Collaboration versus, and I see it, like, from a

lead generation strategy, collaborations being something

that's much more fruitful versus

something like a social media strategy,

especially for trades folks, those people who are

serving people in a specific demographic or

geographic location. We don't need to shout out to the whole

world what we're doing or how different the floor looks.

We need to make sure that the people in our communities know

that we have that we're available and that we have access

on our calendar. So those are the people that I tend to work with now.

They're in construction. They serve, they're service

based businesses. They're women mostly, though I do

have men in my, in my group. I also

do one on ones with manufacturing facilities

too because my bakery was a manufacturing company.

Not just manufacturing, but manufacturing things that are very

tasty and things that I wanna get all the time. But

Well, not with my companies now. Those are more

like, CNC Show, and then I've got, like,

yeah, wind vane maker,

and then a a digital board. What are those

called? A a circuit board manufacturing.

And yeah. Yeah. Wow. It's in a

it's a sector that, you don't always hear a lot

about, especially in the networking circles, a lot of the

entrepreneurship, especially in digital marketing where, you know, there's a lot of

coaches and consultants Mhmm. Speakers and

authors. And I find it refreshing that you are,

working with also business owners and entrepreneurs in their

own right, but, you know, completely different

in the way that their business operates, in the way that they provide their

services, in the way that they do their lead gen, and the systems

that they need and, and then all of that.

And, you know, it reminds me of a you know, at at I was at

a conference about a year ago, and I met a company who

specialized in lead gen for those types of service businesses.

Oh, good. And then and I it was like out of out of all of

the booths, about 25% of them

were serving that audience. And

it was interesting because you don't see that at digital marketing events all that often.

So it is a huge sector, and, and and a

lot of the support resources and a lot of the training and a lot of

the programs are just not designed for them. And so

the fact that you do this, I think, does give you some uniqueness in

the marketplace, and you are serving, you know,

business owners in a sector that really need that support

and, you know, don't have it because so many of them are owner operators

Mhmm. That like you said, they started the business they're in because of

a low barrier entry. They're providing a great service, but

they weren't necessarily business people to begin with. Right? Right. It's like

you kinda learn out of necessity. It's like, oh, I have this problem. How do

I fix this? How do I now I have this problem. How do I fix

it? Yeah. So so, so talk a little bit

about, how you help them to in in that

journey. Like, what is, you know, what what is it that you're helping them to

navigate through their business? And, and then let's, and then

let's tell them a little bit about the 5 day focus as well because I

think that's a great place for someone to start Mhmm. If they're

if if they're on this journey. Yeah. I and

yeah, so I work with them, you know, again, through that lens of

a 5 part framework. So we make sure that each piece of that

5 part framework is being, utilized,

and we're focusing on 1 or 2, and

that's it, strategies in each of the areas. So the 5 part

framework is it's your foundation. So it's

your, what I call market dominating position. How

are you different than everybody else that sells what you sell? Under

foundations, you've got, your education,

any certifications you need, your business

strategy or business model, your financial models. That's all

in foundations. And then we have leads. So how are you

getting your leads? And leads, there's literally 100,

if not thousands of tools and tactics and

thousands of opinions on what you should do from a lead generation standpoint.

But I really mostly force my clients to

pick 1 or 2 at the most,

lead generation strategies. And then we wanna be able to draw a straight line

from their lead strategies to conversions. So

there's a lot of different strategies around conversions

and how do you convert people.

Then from conversions, it's number of sales. So,

a business is, really a hobby if it only

has one sale and then they're gone. What

we need is consistent sales. So how do

we have, our customers buy from us more than once

and multiple times every year? And then from

that, then we work on profits. So that's the 5 part framework.

It's, foundations, leads, conversions,

transactions, and profits.

From that then, working on 1 to 2 strategies of what's

already working. So most of the people that I work with have already had

their business for several years, and they

likely already have employees. So, there

are multiple things that I can look at inside their business to

see what's already working and where can I quickly

tighten up just areas to make

financial gains quickly? And financial gains, I mean,

either in cash flow, so the bank balance,

or our net profit at the end of the year. So we need to see

that up because remember that our goal is to either have or our

goal is to make more money than we could, in a

career and then also have a sellable asset at the end.

So both of those goals are what we're working towards for

them. So we wanna first hit that 1,000,000 in revenue

and that but I also don't want them working in it all the time. So

we need to build in the systems and look for the people that we need

in the different seats in that company in order for them

to grow to that size and then more. Okay.

So do you want me to go into the 5 day focus? Yeah. Tell them

about the 5 day focus. I will gonna put a link beneath the video and

in the podcast show notes so people can register for it. And,

yeah, tell them about what it is and why they should attend.

Yeah. So the 5 day focus is kind of my entry point where people can

get used to me or maybe dip their toe into what it's like to have

a business chaos order or coach or consultant if you wanna call me that.

Whatever you wanna call me. I prefer business chaos order.

But just so you have an idea of what that feels like to have

someone on your side. So this is really for,

somebody that's been in business for at least 3 years and you've maybe

hit a wall, or if you've been like me where it was about

2,000,000 annually, but you were working all the time. Or

it could also be for a business that's stuck in kind of that

250, 500 k range,

annually with dreams of what that $1,000,000 business could look like

on you. All that they have to do when they come into the

program is follow the proven steps, and I show them it

all for free. This is actually only available

on, like, your platform for free or if you come in

through another, by a strategic plan, which actually hasn't come

up, yet. But, it's very

exclusive for you to get the free

access, so I'm really excited that you have that there. But,

what the 5 day focus is is it's 60

minutes for 5 days in a row, and then you walk away with the

7 figure framework that you can use now and well into the

future. What we have is an immersive educational experience

on Zoom, and we interact in real time. And then

you get to experience connection of a room filled with

people that are just like you, that are excited to collaborate

and grow. And the only way that all of it get all of the work

gets done and that you get to that 7 figure business is

through accountability. So every day, I have

actionable steps that happen, and then you do that over the 24 hour

period. You come back. We dig into it. We do more.

That will keep you going towards that goal to the end of the at the

end of the 5 days where you're not only inspired and supported

because that's how you can feel after a big learning event. You can feel

so inspired and, yay, I'm gonna do this, But then you forget

about it and you haven't taken massive action. So what we do in our

5 in our 5 day focus is create

massive action each and every day. So that not,

that event and that,

investment in time is not just felt right then and there, but

that you feel the impacts for months, if not years,

to come. Show that's the 5 day focus, and you'll have,

access to that free link, in the description

below. Yeah. So that sounds amazing,

and it's definitely a resource I wish I had when I was in the telecom

business. And, you know, we were spending so

much money on this business. Like I said, reaching

7 figures, but paying for the privilege of doing it. You wanna actually be able

to keep some of the money that you're earning. You really need that

framework. Mhmm. So check out the description just beneath

this video. There is a link there. If you're listening to this on a podcast,

just click into the player. There's the show notes there. The links are all

there as well, and, we will connect you directly to

Amanda. So, Amanda, this has been awesome. I can

tell already that you and I could, like we could do a deep dive into

any one of these topics. Like, we could probably spend, like, 4 more hours

doing this. And so but I think the best next best

thing is go register for the 5 day focus and and

spend that hour a day with with Amanda. It will be definitely time well

spent. And it's only an hour a day, so you can still do your

business. Right? You can still Yeah. You don't have to, take a week off or

anything. Yeah. And so this has been, I

I mean, I love your stories. I can relate to so many of them. I

love the work that you're doing. This whole journey of being

an entrepreneur has been one of tremendous

personal growth for me. I mean, I always tell people that

your business only grows to the extent that you do. Mhmm. And,

a big part of that has been books. So while I have you here

and before we sign off, I just wanted to find out, like, what book

if if if you were to recommend a book as a must read that's been

the most inspirational book to you or the one that really helped you the

most in this journey, which book would you recommend?

Well, based off of everything that we talked about, I'm gonna go

with. So the, what Michael

Gerber? Michael Gerber. Yeah. Yeah. That was

the the author, the. I think I

wish I would have read that when I was at my bakery.

But for action, I would say the one thing. So

I'm actually gonna cheat and do 2. Oh, there you go. So the one thing

is the other one that I would do. Tell us about the one thing

because I don't know that I know that one. Okay. That is,

Jay Papasan and Gary Keller.

Okay. And the one thing I use that

for my clients now in that I ask

them, to every single day ask themselves, what is the

one thing that if it got done, everything else would

either be easier or completely fall away? So when I

looked at my list, I'm a list person. I have lists that create lists

of lists. Like, literally all the lists.

And, what I do is look at that every single day, and I'm like,

okay. What's the first domino? What's the one thing that's gonna really make a

difference? And that really helps melt away any of the,

feelings of, like, I have to go in any other direction

in this direction or that direction. And it's like, what's the one

thing that okay. If I need cash flow, what's the one thing I can

do today to get cash flow? What's the one

thing that I can do today if I need, more

profit? You know? So, like, kinda thinking of in terms of

that. I love that. I'm gonna have to go and read that

book next, because that I love the idea because I can

relate to the lists, and those lists never they're

never 0, and they never go away. But there

are things that you can prioritize that if you did that thing

first, it takes care of so many of the other things that are on the

list. And I think that's brilliant. I love that idea. And so

that's gonna change my journaling tomorrow morning. It's gonna, and

I'm gonna go check out that book for sure. So we'll make sure that the

links to that book recommendation are in the show notes as well.

So, Amanda, thank you. This has been so amazing. And,

I just wanted to, you know, as we kinda bring this episode in for a

landing here, ask you if you had any final piece

of advice or words of wisdom to end this episode by.

Sure. I guess what I would say is if you're

struggling right now or maybe if you've made decisions

that have turned out to be failures, please remember

that you will be able to make connections

to why this all happened to you

later be because I think this is a Steve Jobs quote.

We can't connect the dots moving looking forward. We can

only looking back. So I would take a

deep breath and make note of what comes to mind and what do

you need to take away from this whole time that you've listened to us

and maybe write that down so that you can say it back to yourself

when you have, your future reflection. Yeah.

That is brilliant. Because, you know, one of the things that we always I

end this episode by is, you know, pick one thing that we that

you heard here today and go and do it. There you go. It really tie

ties in nicely with your book recommendation, the one thing, and all

of that. So what is that thing that really

helped you today? Go and do it today. And then

while you're at it, go click on the link and and and, register for the

5 day focus there as well. So, Amanda, thank you so much.

This has been amazing. To our audience, thank you.

This has been the Creative collaboration show with Chuck Anderson, and,

we'll see you on the next one, everybody. Thank you.