Have you ever wondered whether you are currently in an abusive relationship?
Maybe your family and friends told you that how you are treated is not ok. But no matter how much pain, disappointment or anxiety your partner causes you, you haven’t found that clarity or strength to admit to yourself that it is time to either make a big change – or end the relationship.
Why is that?
If you or someone you know is in this situation please join me on this week’s release of Get Real where I talk about abusive relationships: how to know if you are in one and what you can do to find peace and happiness, whether that be with your partner or moving on alone.
Dr Friedemann's Key Takeaways:
Intro (00:00)
Relationships Start Happy (3:04)
Disregard Of Boundaries (7:16)
Giving But Not Receiving (10:19)
Deprived Of Support System (13:01)
What Is The Way Out? (18:55)
Your Capable Of Committing (24:01)
I Need To Let Go (29:06)
Reach Out For Help (32:13)
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Unknown:with being in denial about it. And no matter how much I or
Unknown:their friends and families are trying to convince him, hey,
Unknown:something is not okay, you really should look at that. They
Unknown:are just putting their blinders on headfirst saying no, you have
Unknown:no idea what you're talking about, this is my life, I gotta
Unknown:make my decisions. And unfortunately, they are digging
Unknown:themselves more and more into a hole that often ends up in
Unknown:complete depression, anxiety, low self esteem. And what I'm
Unknown:talking about is the question that you may want to ask
Unknown:yourself, and maybe you did, but you haven't really been willing
Unknown:to go further or explore it, which is, are you in an abusive
Unknown:relationship? And if so, are you in denial about it, because you
Unknown:really don't want to address that issue. See, being an
Unknown:abusive relationship, maybe a taboo, because it makes you feel
Unknown:like you made a mistake, you may feel like, well, maybe I'm just
Unknown:making it up. Or it makes you feel like a victim, and who
Unknown:likes to be a victim, especially a victim of the person that
Unknown:you're supposed to be in a loving, supportive connection
Unknown:with. So there is a lot of confusion, an inner conflict
Unknown:about even thinking that you are abused, that makes you rather
Unknown:avoid it and go day to day trying to keep the peace trying
Unknown:to somehow make it better, rather than really saying, Hey,
Unknown:this is not okay. So today, I want to simply talk about what
Unknown:are the signs that you may be in an abusive relationship? How do
Unknown:you talk yourself constantly out of addressing the issue? And if
Unknown:you actually will finally say, Yes, I need to really admit to
Unknown:myself, this is an abusive relationship. What can you do to
Unknown:deal with it?
Unknown:Starting with an abusive relationship is not usually what
Unknown:happens. Most people start pretty happy. That's how we
Unknown:connect, there is love, there is romance, there's passion, There
Unknown:is chemistry, all the good stuff. But at some point, you
Unknown:come down from cloud nine, and reality sinks in, and maybe
Unknown:behavior changes. Now, most of us probably would agree that
Unknown:physical abuse is something that's cut and dry, not
Unknown:acceptable. Let's get out of here. But even there, when
Unknown:people are victims of physical abuse, more often than not, they
Unknown:simply accept it. Now it's an outlier. Or it only happens when
Unknown:this and this goes wrong, the stress or the environment, or
Unknown:it's Friday evening, and the threshold of acceptable gets
Unknown:just pushed further and further out, just like the frog in the
Unknown:slowly boiling water. You know, people don't jump out
Unknown:necessarily just because. And so unfortunately, that abuse
Unknown:continues. And what it does to a person, which is a complete
Unknown:undermining of self worth, and confidence, erodes even the
Unknown:strength to eventually leave the relationship. I have seen so
Unknown:many people that left only when the physical abuse was
Unknown:transferred to the children, especially women. Then when it
Unknown:was about somebody else, when it was about the mother instinct,
Unknown:protecting the little ones. Finally, the line in the sand
Unknown:was drawn, but before for the sake of the children, often, it
Unknown:was a key to just be that punching bag for a raging man,
Unknown:because it's still better than starting on your own. Now,
Unknown:emotional abuse is even more, you know, confusing and
Unknown:insidious because it's not often very clear. When does the abuse
Unknown:actually start? Now, as a rule of thumb, I would suggest that
Unknown:you know that you're abused when you're continuously feeling
Unknown:disrespected, unsafe and controlled. And when that is
Unknown:something of a normal for you now to walk on eggshells to
Unknown:always wonder if you are going into a battlefield if you get
Unknown:yelled at, out of the blue, if you feel that more and more,
Unknown:there is the sense that everything is circling around
Unknown:that person, your whole thinking how you act, what you're doing
Unknown:what you're allowed to do. They're very high chances that
Unknown:you are in an abusive relationship. But it may say
Unknown:have started really slowly, maybe just like, you know, sugar
Unknown:coated criticism, sarcasm, some snide remarks that are
Unknown:undercutting and, and hurtful. And at the beginning, it's
Unknown:confusing, you know, you the beginning of the relationship,
Unknown:you got compliments and roses, and all sudden, I'd say you look
Unknown:in the mirror and want to just, you know, appear pretty. And
Unknown:then you hear this? Well, I think you're really vain you
Unknown:spend way too much time looking at yourself. Or you have this
Unknown:great idea of starting an Instagram account and your
Unknown:partner says you're too old, you're not hot enough. No one is
Unknown:interested in what you have to say. And you say, Why do you say
Unknown:that? What so you know what's in your mind, and your partner just
Unknown:responds. While I'm just honest, I don't want to set you up for
Unknown:disappointment. This is not here to hurt you. I just like to be
Unknown:authentic. And this happens more and more. And you notice that
Unknown:you become more and more insecure, not really sure how to
Unknown:deal with it, because it's so out of what you would do to
Unknown:them.
Unknown:You may also notice that there is greater disregarding of your
Unknown:boundaries, let's say you live together. But somehow you have
Unknown:no space for yourself. Everything that you do can be
Unknown:interrupted by a question or by some kind of, hey, I want your
Unknown:attention. When you meditate. When you read a book, when you
Unknown:call someone, there is always your partner somehow no barging
Unknown:in? And you cannot say no. You also notice that there is a
Unknown:greater sense of neediness, you know, let's say you want to see
Unknown:your friends, you have been doing this for years, once a
Unknown:week or your parents on the weekend and and your partner
Unknown:gets more and more upset about it. Why do you have to spend so
Unknown:much time with other people? Am I not enough? Shouldn't we spend
Unknown:all the time together? Isn't that what love is about? I want
Unknown:to spend time with you, you are the most important person in my
Unknown:life? Why should I not be that for you. So it's a mixture of
Unknown:shaming and guilt tripping, that makes you once again, somehow
Unknown:wonder if you do something wrong, if you really are not
Unknown:capable of loving enough, if you shouldn't just give more to the
Unknown:relationship. After all, it's fairly new, you have seen your
Unknown:parents for so many years. And you make concessions, you make
Unknown:compromises. And eventually you give in, you just see your
Unknown:friends only once a month, or maybe just resort to calling
Unknown:them instead of seeing them. Your parents, you know, just
Unknown:become an affair for the holidays, and you focus more and
Unknown:more your energy on your loved one, the person that seems to be
Unknown:so interested in you. You give up on your hobbies, you feel
Unknown:even like No, I shouldn't spend so much time on my career,
Unknown:that's really selfish. I should rather focus on the hobbies that
Unknown:they want to do and maybe work less because you know, it's
Unknown:something that's more important to really, really deepen that
Unknown:relationship. What you notice also is a greater neediness and
Unknown:neediness that requires your attention. It say, you know
Unknown:there is a constant anxiety heard or, or you know, a sadness
Unknown:in your partner. And it requires you to really put all your
Unknown:energy into it. And you tell yourself, Oh, it's just the
Unknown:inner child. That really is very sad. And I want to make sure
Unknown:that this inner child is taken care of. And you know, your
Unknown:emotions, your needs are kind of pushed aside because there's
Unknown:just this really big energy of a one to you to save me that pulls
Unknown:you in. Maybe just because you already have been always someone
Unknown:who is a helper, or a pleaser and so it comes natural to you.
Unknown:Once you are at that stage where you're feeling your energy, your
Unknown:power, your time goes more and more to that person. The next
Unknown:step can be that you're trying to assert yourself you're trying
Unknown:to say you know what, I think I'm not totally equally matched
Unknown:here, I'm not receiving enough back, I'm giving more. And
Unknown:you're taught, you're called, while you're way too selfish or
Unknown:way too sensitive, or you're really egoistic. And so you're
Unknown:basically when you are expressing what you feel, met
Unknown:with criticism, and ultimately, a shutdown, you're not supposed
Unknown:to feel this way, this is not what is right, you are crazy.
Unknown:And as a result of that, pushing back from your partner, there is
Unknown:also that withdrawing of love attention storming out of the
Unknown:house, I don't want to talk to you, you have upset me, and you
Unknown:feel punished, you feel like a child who has upset the parent
Unknown:and the parent just sends you up to the room or the parent says,
Unknown:you know, Don't come near me, you have done something wrong.
Unknown:And this was withholding of Love feels so painful to you, because
Unknown:you probably have been suffering from it many times. So now
Unknown:you're really unsure on how to be an on top of it. There is
Unknown:this, you know, constant sense of Jekyll and Hyde, where you
Unknown:come home in a good mood, hoping to have a great evening
Unknown:together, and you just already feel like, wow, there is Mr.
Unknown:Hyde, this really browsing person who is upset for whatever
Unknown:reason, and you are the lightning rod or you are the one
Unknown:who has to listen to whatever happened horrible at work or
Unknown:with, you know, in the outside world, and, and basically, the
Unknown:whole evening is all about that. Or you get yelled at out of the
Unknown:blue, something that you didn't even do, maybe the cat was too
Unknown:loud. Or maybe the beer was not cold enough, or whatever this
Unknown:is, and then you feel again, that something someone is
Unknown:attacking you, and you are experiencing a mixture of
Unknown:anxiety, shame, guilt, but also a frustration that never can
Unknown:really be fully expressed. So you're literally imploding
Unknown:internally. And that just continues like that. And what
Unknown:happens is when you are deprived of your normal support system
Unknown:with your friends and family, when you don't really feel that
Unknown:you are proud of yourself because you're having you know,
Unknown:put energy into the career and get some positive affirmation
Unknown:confidence back from that. Or you're spending time on a hobby
Unknown:that you love that really uplifts you, when more and more
Unknown:of your time and energy is about pleasing and appeasing your
Unknown:partner, when your sense of self is all dependent on whether they
Unknown:are really happy with you in a good mood, maybe sharing love
Unknown:with you, or whether they're in a bad mood critical withholding,
Unknown:you know, just again, in a passive aggressive way, you have
Unknown:been in an abusive relationship that is encompassing now, pretty
Unknown:much 80 to 90% of your life. And you would wonder, wow, this is
Unknown:like an imprisonment, I'm trapped. This feels horrible.
Unknown:This feels dependent this fields, just, you know, as
Unknown:something like that suffocating and, you know, pulling life out
Unknown:of you? Why are you not immediately saying run? I gotta
Unknown:get out of here. I can't live like this any minute longer.
Unknown:Why? Because you're making excuses. And you're making
Unknown:excuses and living in denial. For two reasons. One is that you
Unknown:are maybe afraid of if you really would leave that you
Unknown:would have to start from scratch, that you're basically
Unknown:facing a huge waste of time that you made a mistake, and that
Unknown:you're going to be single again, everyone's going to look at you
Unknown:and says, Oh poor thing and you have failed big mistakes. So
Unknown:you're saying no, I cannot do this to myself.
Unknown:And maybe you're also afraid of if you would dare to leave, that
Unknown:you would get punished for it. And that that anger that you
Unknown:already feel and sometimes also maybe the violence that has been
Unknown:there gets even worse. So you stay out of that. I need to make
Unknown:this happen. Because A, maybe it's safer in B, it certainly is
Unknown:also, for me, maybe something that I, you know, owed to
Unknown:myself, because I've put already already so much energy and time
Unknown:into this. So you're making excuses. And those excuses can
Unknown:be something like, it's your fault, you're just not loving
Unknown:enough, you're not attentive enough, there is this broken
Unknown:little part inside of your partner that just needs
Unknown:nourishing, that needs attention that needs love. And then
Unknown:everything's going to be fine. Because you're telling yourself
Unknown:when it's good, it's really good. No one ever loved you, as
Unknown:much as this person, no one ever understood you as much. And you
Unknown:do love each other. And you have such a, all over the charts,
Unknown:energy, it's just so amazing. And the chemistry never had it
Unknown:before. But of course, you're ignoring and your denial that
Unknown:this really good part of your relationship only happens 10% of
Unknown:the time. And then there are these 80% of the time, where
Unknown:it's pretty much like walking on eggshells, and then 10 and maybe
Unknown:even more present of a time. It's a war. It's it's a sense of
Unknown:completely, disaster, chaos, and everything that comes with it.
Unknown:But you also tell yourself, there's always hope. And maybe
Unknown:you heard in inspirational talks, or in self help books,
Unknown:that love should conquer everything. And if you really
Unknown:love someone, you're sticking with that person, until that
Unknown:person is whole, incomplete, in that that's what the duty of
Unknown:love is all about. And maybe you're buying into the story
Unknown:that you're just too sensitive, that you really have, you know,
Unknown:a problem with taking everything personally, and you shouldn't,
Unknown:you should just, you know, keep that something that is your
Unknown:issue to work on. And once you work on yourself, everything
Unknown:going to be much, much easier. So you can see that this denial,
Unknown:even the denial of when people tell you clearly, you know, this
Unknown:looks to me like a textbook abusive relationship, that
Unknown:denial that says then you don't know because you're not living
Unknown:with us. Don't tell me what to do. I know that person better
Unknown:than anyone. And we're just in this together against the rest
Unknown:of the world. That denial, unfortunately, prolongs the pain
Unknown:that you're in, for potentially indefinite, until maybe one day
Unknown:there is the moment where the straw breaks the camel's back,
Unknown:which can be unfortunately, physical violence or a form of
Unknown:abuse that do feel like is no longer acceptable. But until
Unknown:then, you give your partner a second, a third 100 chains,
Unknown:because somehow, you cannot really find a way out. Now what
Unknown:is the way out? The way out is not necessarily saying you know,
Unknown:I'm out of here and packing my suitcases. I still have Easter,
Unknown:the way out, it may be for you to start looking at yourself and
Unknown:finding yourself again, really asking yourself, How did I let
Unknown:this happen to me? What does it say about how I'm relating to
Unknown:myself? And everything that is happening to you. You can ask
Unknown:yourself, do I treat myself the same way? Am I disrespectful to
Unknown:myself? Am I very conditional to myself, and basically very
Unknown:rarely saying anything nice to myself?
Unknown:Am I having high expectations? And give very little back to
Unknown:myself? What about my boundaries? Do I even have
Unknown:boundaries with myself? Or do I let everyone simply waltz over
Unknown:them? And when was the last time I was really kite and was the
Unknown:last time I put myself first when was the last time I
Unknown:listened to my body, to my heart to my mind. See a lot of people
Unknown:that are in abusive relationships don't over only
Unknown:feel worse about themselves. They also treat themselves
Unknown:worse. They let themselves go. I just talked the other day to
Unknown:someone who has been since about six months in sweatpants has
Unknown:gained 3040 pounds, has a horrible haircut and just feels
Unknown:in general really, really Low, has no motivation to eat right
Unknown:to go to the gym to do anything that brings joy because she's so
Unknown:beaten down by that relationship. And of course, the
Unknown:worse you feel about yourself, the less motivation, energy or
Unknown:even power, you have to push against that person who wants to
Unknown:control you, and wants to put you down, let alone have the
Unknown:strength to say, I'm going to leave and start something new.
Unknown:So it's about starting to rebuild that relationship with
Unknown:yourself with simple things.
Unknown:Once a client told me, the first step for her to find herself,
Unknown:again, was to have breakfast, and then take a shower, and then
Unknown:just get out of the utilitarian clothes and wear something that
Unknown:she actually liked. And just doing this little routine,
Unknown:breakfast shower, closing, that made her feel more connected to
Unknown:herself, and actually focused on herself and could a little bit
Unknown:tune out that abusive person, she also found like that, wow, I
Unknown:actually do find a way back to how I used to be before I was in
Unknown:this relationship. And so then you discover maybe, hey, I have
Unknown:needs that I completely ignored, maybe the need to go and you
Unknown:know, get some exercise again, reach out to a friend, again,
Unknown:just connect to the parents, again, maybe do things that you
Unknown:know are about your work that you have completely ignored. In
Unknown:other words, gradually starting to put yourself first. And for
Unknown:that have an image in your mind, who you used to be and who you
Unknown:want to be again, because you don't have to be constantly
Unknown:under the shadow of the person who ultimately wants to own you
Unknown:and possess you, but doesn't really want to support you or
Unknown:uplift you. People that are abusive, are often very empty
Unknown:inside they struggle, there is a lot of pain, there's a lot of
Unknown:lack of self worth. But they do, unfortunately, use the
Unknown:relationship to gain a sense of control a sense of belonging, by
Unknown:force, by squeezing, whatever the person that they're with has
Unknown:to offer out of them until they are so small, so little, that
Unknown:they can never leave. And the abusers fear of abandonment, or
Unknown:fear of being alone is this way, put at ease. Because they know
Unknown:this person is under my thumb, and will never have the strength
Unknown:to get away. And once you find yourself more, the abuser will
Unknown:just challenge you, and will push you and will start again
Unknown:criticizing you and tell you all the things that deep inside you
Unknown:know are not true, you're not vain, you're not selfish, when
Unknown:you take care of yourself, you're not unloving, you do have
Unknown:the capacity to love. And you showed it over and over again.
Unknown:Because you were over and over giving this person another
Unknown:chance you were fighting for the relationship, you were giving so
Unknown:much compassion, understanding energy into it. And it still was
Unknown:never enough. So if there's one thing you have proven to
Unknown:yourself is that you're capable of committing and dedicating
Unknown:your time and your heart to a relationship, but you also know
Unknown:that it is about receiving back and you haven't. And therefore,
Unknown:in order for you to make a stand and say my relationship to
Unknown:myself has been betrayed. I have abandoned myself by being so
Unknown:focused on somebody else. And so in denial about how I feel and
Unknown:what I need, that I need to heal that relationship with myself
Unknown:first and then go from there. So once you feel better about
Unknown:yourself gradually, you will also have more strength and more
Unknown:sense of self to put down boundaries. No, is a full
Unknown:sentence saying this is not okay. If you do this again, I
Unknown:don't know that I can do this having really just different
Unknown:levels of boundaries to establish, again a sense of self
Unknown:respect. Now maybe your partner will respect you for that. And
Unknown:maybe this will actually make your partner wake up and realize
Unknown:wow, maybe I need to shape up maybe I need to do something
Unknown:about my state of mind. And you know, quite often it can
Unknown:actually happen that this you respect Acting yourself, you
Unknown:waking up to your own self worth can be the catalyst for your
Unknown:partner all of a sudden to say, you know, I can actually see
Unknown:what an amazing person I'm with, I need to do something to get
Unknown:help and to heal whatever is really troubled and broken
Unknown:inside of me. But it's not a guarantee. And it's not
Unknown:something that you would say, well, that's a reason why I need
Unknown:to find myself again, it's just maybe an effect. But it may not
Unknown:be something that will be enough for the person to really feel
Unknown:it's time to change, very often, they will be more blame, there
Unknown:will be more judgment, and maybe even more pushing back. So don't
Unknown:engage, don't go into the conflict, don't try to make the
Unknown:person even understand where you're coming from. Because you
Unknown:will not make that happen. You simply need to sometimes simply
Unknown:walk away, or say, you know that this is something that can
Unknown:happen maybe one more time, but then you are taking a break, and
Unknown:really sticking with it. And being in a place where you
Unknown:understand that you cannot fix them, you cannot heal them, you
Unknown:cannot make them better. You cannot even be in control for
Unknown:their emotions. Because you have tried. And what you have found
Unknown:out is no one is responsible for another person's feelings. And
Unknown:that's really important. If you feel you're responsible for your
Unknown:partner to be at ease or feel good. You're taking away too
Unknown:much on everyone is responsible for their own emotions. And
Unknown:therefore, when your partner is constantly stressed, needy,
Unknown:angry, insecure, it is your partner's responsibility to
Unknown:understand what are the beliefs underneath that? What are the
Unknown:ruins that I'm carrying around? What are the patterns that get
Unknown:me there. And it's not yours to be their therapist, or the
Unknown:person who needs to heal them from maybe past relationship
Unknown:issues or childhood issues. You're also not to blame. If
Unknown:someone doesn't want to change. If someone finds that what you
Unknown:have to offer is not enough. If someone doesn't really see that
Unknown:your love. And the time that you're spending with that person
Unknown:is sacred. It's a gift, it's an offering, it's you being willing
Unknown:to share yourself if that is not enough. You're not to blame if
Unknown:it's not working out. And no matter how much guilt tripping
Unknown:happens, you need to remind yourself, I am enough, and I'm
Unknown:doing my best. And I'm certainly not questioning my ability to
Unknown:love. I'm not questioning that my love is not enough, maybe
Unknown:it's not a good match. Maybe we're just not meant to be
Unknown:together. Maybe this was all happening just for me to be more
Unknown:clear of what I deserve, what I want, and what I made off, and
Unknown:to find my power back. So with that something like this will
Unknown:never happen again.
Unknown:And there will be a point where you realize I need to let go, I
Unknown:need to detach, I need to have a way to find the freedom again,
Unknown:as that what I really am cherishing that independence,
Unknown:that sense of I am my own person, and I am a choice again,
Unknown:and not just having a warm body next, so that we can say we have
Unknown:a belonging or we have a sense of being in a partnership.
Unknown:Because as we all know, we can be in a relationship and feel
Unknown:more alone than when we are on our own. See, I grew up with
Unknown:parents that were ultimately in abusive relationship with each
Unknown:other. It was mainly my father, who was angry and a times
Unknown:violent, but my mother didn't help either because she could
Unknown:also be passive aggressive and, and together, they were
Unknown:codependent. And I really want it as a child to somehow make it
Unknown:all better and help them and a times even fix the relationship
Unknown:by being this constant intermediary, the mediator
Unknown:between them going back and forth trying to make them
Unknown:understand each other. And yes, they stay together. But when I
Unknown:was 18 years old, and my mother for short time left with us,
Unknown:because it really was too much for her, I was so happy, I felt
Unknown:like my goodness finally, both have that ability and that
Unknown:freedom to start in you and have a peace of mind and just finally
Unknown:don't go through these motions of constant hurting and
Unknown:undermining each other's sense of self. But my mother didn't
Unknown:have the strength, my father came back and was begging to
Unknown:reconcile and, and so that would have happened, the relationship
Unknown:didn't necessarily improve, maybe it did, once we, the
Unknown:children left home, and they died still married together. But
Unknown:deep inside, for both of them, I really wished they had have
Unknown:experienced more joy, more happiness, and more a sense of
Unknown:connection and support and intimacy, then they allow each
Unknown:other to have abusive relationships are not meant to
Unknown:stay together. Maybe they are these, you know, again,
Unknown:catalytic connections that somehow help us to get on the
Unknown:right path. But they're not something that usually work out
Unknown:unless both are really, really working hard, and taking
Unknown:responsibility, and ultimately finding their own wholeness, not
Unknown:from a place of codependency or need, but from a place of desire
Unknown:to be the best version of themselves for themselves, and
Unknown:then secondarily, for each other. So if you have been
Unknown:finding yourself in a relationship that I described,
Unknown:that just makes you feel more and more alienated from
Unknown:yourself, when you more and more feel like that, you are
Unknown:insecure, unloving, unkind to yourself. Remember that the
Unknown:refocusing to reconnect with yourself to to get in touch with
Unknown:who you are, and re building that kindness and ultimately,
Unknown:belief and love in yourself. That is the first step to then
Unknown:also from a place of greater clarity. Decide what you want to
Unknown:do with a relationship with the person that you're with. And I
Unknown:hope that helps. I hope it helps that you understand that it's
Unknown:not about I have to make a decision to get out or not. It
Unknown:may simply be for you the understanding that you already
Unknown:have abandoned yourself. And so arry yeah