Conquering the Work-from-Home Parenting Game with Mompreneur, Jenny Suneson

So I wanted to bring this special guest Jenny Suneson on for today's podcast episode, because she's in the thick of it right now with a toddler and being pregnant with their second child and running a business and starting a new brand and doing all of the things and it kind of reminded me when I was chatting with her was like, It's been a while since I was at that stage of motherhood. So I really wanted to bring in her perspectives of how she has navigated through it. Being where she's at in her journey having she started her business before having kids, then had kids had managed a maternity leave, coming back to work doing all the things. So as you know, part of this podcast is really talking about how we navigate motherhood and entrepreneurship at the same time. And there's some really great tips and strategies inside of this episode today. Plus, Jenny and I are doing a collab right now, where I am part of a bundle giveaway that she is offering which is totally free. And you can grab it through the show notes. It's called the moms make money bundle. And there are tons of resources there for you that will help you to manage everything from parenting to meal planning to Business Growth all inside of this bundle. So super cool, go check it out. It's only available for a limited time. So if you're listening to this podcast in real time, congratulations, then you can grab it. And if not, well, stick around and hopefully there'll be another one in the future. Okay, now dive in to the episode I hope that you love it.

This is The Entrepreneur School Podcast where we believe you can run a thriving business and still make your family a priority. This show is all about supporting you the emerging or early stage Entrepreneur on your journey from solopreneur to CEO while wearing all of the other hats in your life. My name is Kelly Sinclair and I'm a brand and marketing strategist who started a business with two kids under 3am, a corporate PR girl turned entrepreneur after I learned the hard way that life is too short to waste doing things that burn you out. On this show. You'll hear inspiring stories from other business owners on their journey, and learn strategies to help you grow a profitable business while making it all fit into the life that you want. Welcome to entrepreneur School. Hello, Jenny, so excited to have you on Entrepreneur School show today.

Yeah, I'm super stoked to be here. Thanks so much for having me.

Yeah, I'm pumped that we just met in a group where we are intentionally there together to collaborate with each other. So you and I have a few things coming up. So we have this conversation about like, what you do and how you are focusing on supporting moms and you as a mom as an entrepreneur, which I was like, let's have this conversation, because we can never get too many perspectives on what it's like, and how different people navigate all of the jobs that you can do on a daily basis. So why don't you start with like telling us about what your what your business job is? And what that Yeah,

Yeah, so I have been in business since 2016, I first started kind of like marketing, social media management, that kind of thing. That was my bread and butter. And then eventually, I knew at some point, I wanted to have kids back then. And that was in 2016. And I was like, alright, like, let's make this business more streamline. So it can support kids, because I felt like social media management is like, it can't be more streamlined. But it just there would I just feel like I was constantly like, in people's DMS and there was no like way for me to really take a break. So I'm like, okay, what can I do that's like, wanting to be more supportive of like, when I have kids. So I started a podcast in 2018. And I found out how much I loved it. And then I kind of was like, Wait, maybe I can, like do this for people. And, you know, this seems more flexible than social media because it's like, you know, people can record in advance, they don't have to review your recording by the seat of their pants every week. So I had someone come to me for like VA VA services because I was doing social media and VA. And they were like, Hey, I also have a podcast like, is this something you know how to do? I'm like, Well, you know, I've only been managing my own show. So I'm not like, quote unquote, an expert, but like, if you're willing to take a shot on me, like let's try it and she she was so this was October of 2018. And then by 2019 I was like alright, let's just kind of burn my business to the ground and I went all in on like the podcast management side of things and found how much more flexible it was because I would get my clients to like record in advance and we could work you know, two plus weeks ahead at all times. So that really helped with the flexibility aspect. And then when I got pregnant later that year, in October of 2019, it was actually perfect because I'd already made that pivot. And I was like, oh my god, what am I gonna do? I mean, it was still a cultural shock getting pregnant cuz I was like, okay, like, I have nine months to get this business, you know? And it was, it is a service based business. So I was like, What am I going to do about muttering li What am I going to do about all these different aspects of things? So I let myself freak out for like, a week. And then I decided, okay, let's put on your big girl pants. And you know, you have at this point, you probably, you know, I have like, eight and a half months to get things together. So I, I started planning out my maternity leave, I figured out who I needed to hire so that my clients would still be supported when I was out because I didn't I wanted to take maternity leave. Right? So I wanted to take three months. And

I'm filing because I live in the magical, but it doesn't, it doesn't help when you're an entrepreneur, you don't get a maternity leave. Right? Well, you gotta find your own Yang and I exactly happy to Yeah, I have mine when I was working and got a hole. Yeah,

Yeah. So I want I wanted to plan, like having at least three months. And you know, I didn't want to like, be like, okay, clients, I can't support you for these three months. So I knew I had to bring on some people to help me. So I, you know, I was hiring people to help and, you know, it was originally just going to be for like, a three or four month period, and then I would come back. But I enjoyed that. So much having that help that I was like, when I came back from maternity leave, I was like, Hey, guys, do you want to, like stay on, and they they wanted to, and they were contractors. They weren't like employees or anything, so they could have left if they wanted to. But it was really nice to have that. And I realized, like how much that support was necessary for me because even after the three months, like you're still adjusting to motherhood, like you're not, you're not out of the woods. And then you know, you get hit with that four month sleep regression, which I feel like I kind of forgot about and now I'm about to experience again, once I have my baby in November. So I feel like after like that three month period, you kind of feel like you're like, Okay, I'm kind of getting this. But then, like you get hit with all these other milestones like, oh, the four months sleep regression, oh, like they're going through a leap or whatever. So like, I wasn't completely out of the woods when it came to like, not sleeping and you know, learning how to take care of myself. And you know, like,

I can't even imagine and I have to give like kudos to every mother who has not had the opportunity to have a full year or more official like Canadian style maternity leave. Like I've always my heart's always got out to moms and other places who just don't have that same, like, social support that we have up here, fortunately, and because I was like, barely getting off my couch for three months. I can't imagine running a business at the same time. Like, how did you get, like, muster up the energy and I'm sure you're like telling yourself the same story in your head now because you're pregnant again and ready to go on another mat, leave and be like, Okay, how are we going to get through this and plus a toddler?

Right? Yeah, it's definitely it's definitely interesting. I mean, I, you know, at the three month mark, I was actually excited to get back because like, at that point, my, my son was like, still like sleeping and to get a million naps a day. So I was getting bored. I was like, okay, like, I'm tired, but I'm still kind of bored. Like, I wasn't gonna take a nap every single nap because at the point I want to say he was taking so like for nap today or something crazy, or even three, probably four still. And I'm like, okay, like, I'm not going to take a nap every single time he naps because they're, you know, I have other things I need to

long naps.

And then there was a lot of naps. And like they weren't like it wasn't like a 20 minute nap. You know, most of them were like an hour plus wasn't going to sleep four hours a day. That was like a little much for me. So I was getting bored. At that point. I was already starting to like work on some stuff. Anyway, like, internally, I wasn't like doing any client stuff. I was like doing some internal stuff. So it was like, already feel ready to get back. So like, let's do it. And you know, I started kind of pretty. Thankfully, my mom was able to help me. She once I came back from maternity leave, my mom was able to watch my son twice a week. So Tuesdays and Thursday, she would watch him so that I can have calls because like even when they are napping, it's not like they're 100% Every single day got a nap from 12 to three or whatever the time frame is like sometimes they wake up early, sometimes they go to then go to bed immediately. And I knew like I that would stress me out if you know that was happening when I was trying to like be present on a discovery call, or even a client call even with client calls. I mean, obviously they're more understanding because they are already working with you. But like, I just didn't want that that stress. So my mom would take him every Tuesday, Thursday, I would go drop him or my husband would go drop them off. And then you know, I'd pick them up around like three ish. So I have that full day to like, do stuff. And then Monday, Wednesday, Friday, he was home with me. So I was like, you know less. It was a naptime type situation, naptime hustle situation, and that was his whole first year of life because it was 2020 and you know he's born June of two only 20 in the middle of COVID. So his whole first year live from June 28 to June 2021. He was home with me. And then I started in daycare and 2021. But yeah, it was a lot once, especially when they once they start being mobile and stuff and crawling, it changes a lot of things too, because I felt like it was kind of manageable before then. And then once he hit like that, seven, eight month mark, and he's like crawling, and, you know, you know, eventually walking, you know, once he hit 12 months, I was like, okay, like, this is a big a big change. Because you know, when they're not mobile, it's not as difficult. You can kind of just put them in a play pin. As long as you're, you know, attending to them. They're right.

So it's like this. Yeah, you're reminding me of like, it's been a while my kids are, like having flashbacks.

It's like, you kind of forget, like, even my son being three now. Like, I kind of like, I feel like my brain just like forgot about all the newborn stuff. And like, oh, yeah,

on purpose. Like tricking you to have more. Totally, I was visiting my sister in law just had a baby, we have a niece now. And she was only five weeks old when we were visiting. And she was just very, like a newborn. He like, up on now. It was like, you know, I don't remember any of that. And I think that's, that's what you have to look forward to? Is that eventually you won't.

And you're like I had to to so it's like, it wasn't like you just had one and then conveniently forgot it. So

Yeah, yeah. So that's interesting. Like you're talking about how, like at the beginning of the baby's life, right there, like a little pile of mush and cute night, right? And I mean, it's hard because you're all well, a pile of mush. And you're like, I can either, like take advantage of this time, when I actually know that I have the time, Freedom kind of more to myself and work. And then later when they're crawling and stuff. What's when you're actually more ready to work. So ah, what a what a juggling act rates.

Definitely, definitely interesting. And I'm so thankful my mom was able to help me out those two days a week because I've made such such a difference. Because you know, the uninterrupted time, you know, you literally feel like Superwoman at the end of the day, you're like, wow, I got so much done. Whereas like the Monday, Wednesday, Friday for me, I was like, Oh, I was lucky to get some little.

Did you did you like have like, let's talk about this. Because I think, you know, one of the things with figuring out your own entrepreneurship and motherhood journey is figuring out what kind of a schedule will work for you. So did you just like that those like, what did you try and do in terms of like hours per week?

Yeah, I mean, I so for my son, I tried to get him on a schedule pretty quickly. Like no, like, I think I've tried around six weeks is when I started like implementing like a schedule for him because I you know, I thrive in routine. I know kids thrive in a routine. So I tried to get him on a schedule. And once he was on like, a decent sleep, eat play schedule, then I was like, Okay, now let's get me on a schedule. I really like I had, I had, it was really nice, because I had my team still. So like, when I did come back, I was like, Hey, guys, to my clients, I'm back. But like, you know, not anything's really gonna change because the team is doing the work. They've been doing the work. I'm but I'm back to talk strategy and do like that more in depth stuff with them. So it was nice, because I wasn't like jumping headfirst back into like, the weekly podcast management tasks. I was just like, Okay, let's like, look at how your analytics are doing and like, get that one on one support with the clients. Instead of like being in the weeds like, oh, I need to read show notes on it, you start editing audio, again, you need to start doing all this stuff. So that really helped. I feel like it would have been a much harder shift. At first I was coming back fully and like just being like, okay, by team like, now it's time for me to fully jump back in because I don't think I could have handled it because I think at that point, we had at least like six or seven weekly clients so that six or seven weekly podcasts were going out. And I like doing that by yourself is is a lot when you don't have a child but like, it seems almost not even possible when you do.

Yeah. So I'm hearing an underlying theme here about like, acknowledging the need for help. Yeah. And how did you wrap your head around that? Because I know we're also stubborn sometimes about doing it.

Oh, gosh, I mean, I honestly am pretty good about asking for help when I need it. I know a lot of moms are terrible about it. But for me, I was like, it's not just about being you know, at home with my baby, I had my business you know, I had a personal all the personal home tasks I need to take care of still because you know, even though I do have a career, I'm still the primary caregiver as most moms are. So there wasn't just oh, that business and the baby. It was also all the household tasks and making sure everyone had appointments and I mean, not my husband, he's responsible for us on appointments. I'm responsible for the dog and the kids and myself because they get bigger on appointments. Sorry, dude. But so yeah, so I Just kind of decided that, you know, I was just gonna do that and, you know, focus on that and not put too much pressure on myself. But um, I started outsourcing like, obviously business stuff, but then I started outsourcing some personal stuff like, you know, once I felt comfortable enough, I started bringing, like, I have a housekeeper that comes once every two weeks. So that helped. I mean, obviously, she's not sitting there doing my dishes every day, I still am responsible for that. And like the laundry, and all that stuff, which is never ending, of course, when you have children. And yeah, so I'm still responsible for that day to day stuff. But like she her coming in deep cleaning every other week has been a lifesaver, because now I don't have to worry about like, oh, did I clean my shower? Or do I clean my toilet like, just like things like that, like those deep cleaning tasks, like it just, it adds up whenever you don't have an assistant. And then a lot of the time during like, the infant stage, I don't do it anymore, we do still go we go the grocery store now. But during that infant stage during COVID, to like, I think I probably would have done it with with or without COVID. But definitely with COVID We got groceries delivered for house. So I would just order online every week and have them delivered every Monday morning, which is really, really helpful. Because I didn't want to like have to take my son in the grocery store. You know, being a newborn, and also in COVID was just, it felt really stressful. And I already hate grocery shopping anyway. So

Yeah, I was gonna say like,

Yeah, it's I hate it. So I was like, might as well get it delivered. And then, you know, we also started doing pickup to eventually like, once, once he got a little older, I was like, Okay, let's like do pickup because, you know, delivery, you still have to pay a fee for it to be delivered where it's picked up. You only have to pay the groceries, you don't have to pay for them to put it in your vehicle, basically. So then we started with pickup because that was obviously slightly cheaper. And, you know, I just had that load him in the car, which at that age is too hard. But yeah, so then I started doing like, pickup, you know, and I still really love to do grocery pickup. But most of the time we go to the store now just as my husband likes to like, look at everything. And I'm like, Okay, well, if we're all going then we can all go but I'm not I don't go over stream on myself. Like I need to get some from the grocery store. I'm just going to do a target order pickup, which I know in Canada, you guys don't have target, right?

Yeah, I forgot that it was a grocery store. But I have remembered that and now for future when I go to the states, like on a trip that that's the best place to order from but I was just gonna say the only exception I make to go into the grocery store is if I go alone. Oh, yeah, yeah. Then I will go and I like have been finding myself sitting in my car for like a half hour before the

girls going into the grocery. Yeah, no that yet. That makes sense. Yeah. So like, the only time I'll go is if it's my husband and my son because I'm like, well, at least there's two of us. Right? But I don't want to go alone with my child.

No, that sounds awful.

There's always something so so yeah, so I started doing like grocery pickup and target or pickup, which I still do the target or pickup pretty frequently, probably once a week for like additional snacks because they have pretty good snacks, honestly. And you can also get Starbucks to help bring Starbucks to your car as well, which is

that's a pro tip,

pretty new, I'm pretty sure they you know, they started doing that like, same almost a year ago now. But I mean, I'll use it every single time because sometimes I pick up my groceries at 4pm. I'm like, I have not been trying to drink coffee at 4pm. But like, if I do something in the morning, I'm like, Oh, this is nice. And then you know, I can get my son a cake pop or something. And he likes that too. So it works out. But yeah, just like utilizing kind of an outsourcing like personally and professionally I think is really, really crucial as a new mom. And like I said earlier, a lot of moms are afraid to do it for whatever reason they, whether it's like they think people are going to be like, oh, you can't handle it. So you feel like you have to ask for help. It's like no, it's a lot to run a business and be a mom, like, it's a lot to be a stay at home mom, even when you're only responsible for the baby in the household duties. But if you're if you're doing that, plus a business being a work from home mom, it's like even more more stuff that you have on your plate. And you know, like for me, I'm managing a team too. So like not only managing my child's schedule and my you know, my dogs schedule, which is not that intense, but I mean they have some things and you do like grooming and stuff like that. But you know you're also managing your team to like I have six people on my team currently maybe seven least six. But so managing all them and you know, it's just, you it's a lot so being able to ask for help and bring in help with our personally or professionally. And it's just super simple. Like, like I said, even just doing the order pickup. It's free at most places. I know Target's breed my grocery stores free and I think most grocery stores have the free order pickup.

So it's like honestly, I think the first $3 that I have even if they do have a fee, right i buy exactly there.

Yeah, exactly.

About your time, you know what your what you're saying here is really making me like just see the whole bigger picture of if you look at your job, quote unquote job as all of these pieces instead of just the business stuff, and then like, all of the moms stuff, and the personal stuff, and the dog grooming and whatever else like appointments, I hate making appointments. If you look at that all as one job and you tackle it all with like the same work ethic and approach and organization, then it's it feels like everything will flow a lot smoother, because often, I actually feel like I look at work as work and then everything else just almost becomes something I resent. Yeah, that of like, admitting that I'm stepping into like that this is part of my role. I chose this I wanted, yeah, I want to be a mom, I wanna Yeah, you know, I have dogs, I want to have all that stuff, too. But like, look at it the same way instead of separating it, and maybe that'll help too.

Yeah, yeah, I think that's, that's a great tip. Because yeah, sometimes it can feel like really, really, really overwhelming when you're like looking at it. And like little pockets, like, Oh, this is the household stuff. And this is the business stuff. This is the kid stuff. It just it seems worse that way. But even just like for me, I like to sit down every single like Friday morning and kind of take a look at like all the life admin stuff I have to do and kind of tackle that and like, you know, a 30 to 45 minute periods. So like, if I know I have to like look my dogs for the groomers, I'll call the groomer. Or, you know, if I know, I need to make some kind of pediatrician point for my son or a dentist appointment or whatever, I'll kind of do that. I mean, obviously, a lot of time when you're going to the dentist or like, just want to make your six month appointment, you're like, Yeah, sure, let's do it. And then you kind of forget that it comes up and you're like, Oh, crap, I like already have something on that day. But I tried to like kind of sit down and do like that life admin stuff, or like, updating the family calendar and things like that, to make sure it like, reflects the current availability and stuff. And, you know, things like having a family calendar has been really helpful for me, it's been harder to get my husband on board, because he's just, you know, sometimes men can be sent and stuff like that, but it really helps me to have like, all my son's days off school and you know, all the dogs grooming appointments and vet appointments and pediatrician appointments and dentists appointments and like, an on top of my own stuff, like, you know, I don't even I don't even feel like I do much for myself, because it's not like I'm going to the doctor, like super frequently like a child is you know, so. Right. Real Estate massage. Yeah, exactly. kind of stuff. Yeah, you need something. So I think I think having that like kind of built into my and I put it on my business calendar too. So it like, it shows like, you know, I'm not available at this time. And you know, I'm not trying I'm, I try to book it during the workweek because my kids and you know, he's in preschool. So I'm not going to try and book it like, last Saturday, you know, when it could be spending time with my kids. And that's why I'm an entrepreneur in the first place. I you know, if I wanted to get my oil change on a Saturday, then you know, I would be a corporate shop, right? Where that's your only option. So So I think I think just trying to fit in everything can be hard, especially you know, when you have your first kid because you're like, Whoa, this is such a big life shift. You're like trying to manage your business and trying to manage having a kid you're trying to manage all the things it can be really challenging but just know that it's like a season it's not forever if you're like feeling really stuck, you're at you know, I feel like for me like three months, I was like okay, cool. I feel like I'm doing good and like by the time I hit four months I'm like just kidding. There's this massive sleep regression like I got back into business and I'm excited about it but I'm getting you know frustrated because I'm tired. My brains just not fully like there yet. Like you know you have pregnancy brain but then you have like groggy Mom Brain when you're not sleeping that well. So you just you want to be back to normal and you want to be performing to what you were before you had kids but it's takes a while to get there. I feel like it took me like at least a good nine months to start truly feeling like myself after having kid. Okay. Got to be there again. So, so

And so like mentally What do you tell yourself to help you get through that?

Honestly, like now that I've been through it, I know like it is just a season but in the moment it didn't feel like a season or like, I mean, you obviously know that your kid is not going to be waking up in the middle of the night until they're 18 you know that like you you're not you know that consciously. But like in the moment it feels like you're literally never gonna sleep again. Or you're never gonna have like freedom again. You're always going to be like changing diapers or doing whatever and like my son is now potty trained, which helps so much and I'm like, Okay, well I'm about to start changing diapers again. I have this newborn but like At least not changing too. So you just kind of have to like, just remember that it's a season and like, you know, might have to give yourself some pep talks along the way, like, okay, like I know, right now, it's really hard, it feels hard. But, you know, you have to just acknowledge that it's not forever, you're not gonna be changing diapers forever, you're not going to be waking up to someone crying and middle night forever. And it all goes so quickly. So just try to save her. I know that can be really hard because I know a lot of people who struggle with like, you know, postpartum depression or anxiety. I know I definitely I didn't have it diagnosed, but I can looking back and like it definitely had some form of like, postpartum anxiety because I was like, freaking out and waking up and like, looking at the monitor to make sure my son was still breathing and stuff, which I know is very, very common. But yeah, I just think we just need to acknowledge it's a season, it's going to be okay, we will sleep again, our brains will come back to normal, but we just need to give ourselves grace and not expect like to quote unquote, bounce back, whether that's physically or mentally, that quickly because I know society's like, oh, you know, when you're three months postpartum, you should basically be back to your normal weight. And like, I literally never go back to my normal weight. Like, there's just no way.

Let's all a whole other conversation. I'm like, I haven't had a baby for eight years and no, no thing. Yeah,

It's hard. But we just, we just need to like, give ourselves grace. Because I feel like we have such a pressure to feel like we need to bounce back physically and mentally, and just feel like ourselves again, but like, it's just you don't always feel like yourself until like, I've seen some people say 12 months. For me, it was nine months, I've heard a lot of people like average about nine months. And I feel like the social media too. It's such a highlight reel, like you're seeing all these people post all the amazing, great moments, like, Oh, my kid is only six weeks, and they're saving through the night with not waking up. And they're like, Well, why isn't my kid doing that because for me, my first child was not not not the best sleeper. Now he's great knock on wood, but but like, we just see all these things from other parents posting, hey, my kids doing this, or hey, like, Oh, my kids meeting all these crazy milestones like way early. And it's just like, it's just everyone's highlight reel, and you just kind of, it can be hard to block it out. But honestly, for your sanity, you try to block out as much as possible and just focus on your own self and your own child. And you'll be so much more happy that way. Because otherwise, you're just gonna be stuck in that comparison trap and like, Oh, my kids not meeting these milestones, or, Oh, my kids not sleeping. And it's like, it's okay, if your kids aren't saving, like, yeah, it's hard. But like, you know, like, I think

Yeah, I think all you just need to, like, give a shout out right now, to ourselves and to every mother in this world, especially the ones who are listening to this podcast, because we know that you either have a business or you're thinking about starting a business, for the reasons of you want to be a present mom and have a life with your family and not take them like I was before I started my business to child care for 11 and a half hours a day. Like this is a challenging journey. And you just need to acknowledge yourself every step of the way. And I want to acknowledge you Jenny like you you were doing the most So managing the expectations for yourself because you're the only one who is feeling guilty or feeling not enough. That's you. Yeah, so I love the power of like acknowledging that you're feeling that way you get to release it as well.

Yeah, it's Yeah, and it's totally normal to feel that way but like don't don't hold on to it forever either. Because then then just continues to build up and bubble up and like another thing like just going back to the outsourcing thing, like my son has been in school since he was one and like for me that was the best option so it's like he's not in school like from 630 to 630 like he wouldn't be if you know he was I was working in corporate job but he's still going way less hours than most of the people who have their corporate jobs so for me like you know, like that's that's another thing too like if you know a lot of people are like oh well if you work from home your kid should be home with you full time kind of thing is I would literally get nothing done if I didn't have any sort of help so it's okay to have help with your kids too even if you are work from home mom because literally like it's okay in the beginning because they're like I said we talked about earlier they saving a lot but once they're moving around is like literally they're constantly getting into stuff like my one time my son like literally got into our glass freakin Pyrex drawer and was like, could have been an absolute disaster. But, you know, like, it's just you can't split your brain that well. And I feel like if you're trying to work from home and like do it really really well and you're not doing it just during like nap time or night time. I feel like you're just splitting your yourself and your energy and your everything too thin. And something's gonna get whether that's your work or your kid Slyke learnings you know or what Ever something is something's going to have to like, you know, something's going to take precedence over the other. It might be, you know, and it of course, it's going to change every day, like one day, it might, your kid might add more, so you're going to kind of slack on work or whatever, and vice versa. But it's really hard to like manage both. If you're especially if you're trying to do it not just during like naptime when you have really small kids, because they are a lot easier, like my son is, you know, he's, he can be pretty self sufficient. But definitely, it still needs me to make his meals, he still needs me to get him snacks, he still needs, you know, assistance with things. So I feel like if he was home with me, 24/7. And he doesn't always nap every day. So it was just, it would just not work. It would just not work for me. So like, there's also no shame in having help with your children as well. I feel like,

Yeah, we talk about that a lot on this show, too. Like just picking the schedule that works for you, that makes you feel like the best version of yourself. Like, we know, like this statistically, like studies have been done that prove that multitasking is actually not a thing that's possible. And I find like I think about, I think about all these roles in my life as different hats. And you can't learn two at once, right? So you're either being a mom, or you're working and I use a different part of my brain for that. So to do like the in and out. And I've tried it as well, like even with my kids who are older who can make themselves like bowl of cereal or grilled cheese sandwich or something simple like that. They still are in the back of my mind when I know they're in my house, yeah, aren't able to access that same level of like, strategic thinking that I might need for certain projects, or my own business, like planning or any of those things. So I am a huge advocate for childcare. And I just did an episode about this for like how my summer has been going and I'm like, um, didn't love the weeks where we didn't have camp.

Right? really challenging. That's okay. That's okay. Like we shouldn't we shouldn't feel guilty about that. We shouldn't be shamed for that. Like, it's totally okay. And like, I know, when my son first started daycare, like the first six months, that boy was sick more than he wasn't. And he was home with me all the time. And there was a point where I was like, why are we even paying for this? Like, literally, he's just sick 24/7 And we're having to pay regardless. And you know, like, I just stuck it out. Because I was like, Well, you know, if I take him out now, then he's just gonna get sick in kindergarten, and then miss days where it actually like, counts, right? Whereas in daycare, you're paying for it. So it's like, you're not being penalized for other than having to pay money. But, um, yeah, so I stuck it out. And now you know, not gonna work out he probably get sick once or twice a year max. Versus like, I swear, it was ever two weeks for a while, and then it was every three weeks. And then it was every month, which, you know, and it wasn't just a day, it was like, a week, or like, three days at least. So it was just, it felt like it was all the time. So it's like, you know, like, I've seen a lot of moms talk about that, too. Like, oh, my kids always sick when I'm in daycare, or when they're in daycare? Is it worth it? And it's like, if you stick it out, it'll be you know, they're not going to get sick 24/7 For the rest of their life. That's another season, right? The daycare season are gonna be sick when they're like 16 Every day, you know?

Yeah. So that's such a good way to look at it in the seasons for sure. So why don't you let everybody know what you are working on right now. And wherever you can find and connect with you.

Yeah, so I did mention like I my primary business is like a podcast Management Agency. But because I didn't have enough on my plate. No. But since my team helps me so much with our clients stuff, I kind of had a little bit more time free up and I've been having it on my heart for a while to do something for moms, and help moms get started in business and really just start writing and you know, in those pockets of time that they have with their children. So I you know, I branched out and I created this brand called moms make money collective. And right now we're in the middle of a bundle which is called the moms make money bundle, which you are in. So it's a resource a free resource for people who are looking to start grow and scale their businesses. As a mom, they're like there's parenting and motherhood type resources as well as business resources. And it's 100% range not have to pay a single cent every person that contributed included the resource for your charge for this short time only which is amazing and I am so appreciative. But if you guys want to check out the bundle, it's moms make money bundle.com And yeah, just go go check it out. It's, you know, free just for this week. Once you sign in or opt in, you'll get access to all the gifts from everyone you can pick and choose what you want to grab. Have you don't have to grab everything if you want to, you can. But you don't have to grab everything. Because there's there's almost 50 resources in there, that would be kind of overwhelming. But once you have that free page, or once you've opted in, you get that link to the free gift page, you'll have access to kind of opt in to everyone's things over the course of a month. So I don't want to like make you feel like you have to look at everything immediately. But you just need to sign up to get that free gift page within this week period. So the 15th through 22nd, I believe, yeah, 15th through the 22nd of August. So it'll be open that full week. And then, you know, you'll still have access to everything for the next month. Once you you just have to make sure you put your email address in during that 15 through 22nd. Period.

Perfect. Well, I'll make sure that the link is in the show notes. And my gift contribution is the simplified content system, which is the tools and templates and everything that I use for creating consistent content for this show for social media for whatever kind of are my emails, anywhere that I'm like putting stuff. This is my like, Bible for organization, I access it like 700 times a day. So I want everyone to have this because I think it'll make your life so much easier. Thank you so much, Jenny for being here. Where is the best place for people to come and connect with you?

Yeah, so my best place is going to be Instagram. I hang out there the most I do have like sub Instagrams for my different brands. So it's like not so all in one. But my personal like Instagram, which is connected to both businesses is just my name at Jenny dot senesin. So yeah, so that's where I'm at the most. And like I said, that goes to both sides of my business, the mom focus and then also, you know, if you want help with podcasting as well, so I love to connect you guys. I love connecting with other moms, like you know, I feel like it's such such like a expression, mom's business. It's such a, like niche community because like, you know, a stay at home moms gonna have a much different experience than a mom with a business. So I just love connecting with other moms. And you know, I hope to see you guys opting in for this bundle, because it's amazing. There's so many great resources in there for business moms. And also, you know, like, there's literally some 30 easy meals for your kids. You know, things like that, which is super handy when you are working from home. And you don't have a million years to prepare dinner every night or you hate preparing dinner. I don't like cooking, so I need easy meals.

Oh, I'm going to get it just for that have seen. Thanks so much, Jenny. Everyone go grab that bundle while it is still alive.