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This episode contains discussions about childhood sexual trauma, which might be triggering for some listeners. We advise listener discretion and encourage you to prioritize your well-being while engaging with this content.
In this deeply moving episode, we are joined by Jill, a brave individual who has chosen to step into the light to address a taboo topic that is often shrouded in darkness and shame. Jill shares her personal journey of grappling with the repercussions of childhood sexual trauma and the subsequent experimentation with other children. After 41 years of living under a cloud of shame and self-loathing, Jill has found her purpose in liberating others from the shackles of shame associated with this sensitive topic. Through her courageous efforts, she aims to change the narrative surrounding children who have experienced sexual abuse and their interactions with peers. Join us as we delve into a conversation that seeks to foster healing, understanding, and a pathway to a life filled with love, success, and abundance.
Jill Schultz is a beacon of hope and a voice for many who have suffered in silence. With a history marked by sexual trauma at a tender age of four, Jill embarked on a long journey of self-discovery and healing. For over four decades, she carried the weight of shame and self-reproach, feeling isolated in her experience. However, a newfound purpose has emerged from her painful past. Jill has taken up the mantle to address the seldom-discussed topic of childhood sexual abuse and the complex dynamics that ensue. Through her advocacy, she seeks to release individuals from the grip of shame and alter the perspective on how children who have been sexually abused engage with others. Jill's mission is to illuminate this dark corner of society, offering solace and a fresh lens through which affected individuals can reclaim their lives, fostering a space where love, success, and abundance flourish. Learn more about Jill and her work at www.jilleschultz.com.
About the Host:
Introducing Saylor Cooper, an accomplished author and a true inspiration. Despite facing the challenges of living with a disability, Saylor has fearlessly pursued his dreams and emerged as a beacon of motivation for others. His journey in entrepreneurship, alongside his trusted ally Tyler, has propelled him to extraordinary heights.
At the core of Saylor's mission lies an unwavering belief in the power of hard work and determination. As the creator and host of Real Variety Radio, Saylor has established a remarkable internet radio station that offers a diverse range of programming spanning every genre of music and shows.
Additionally, he has taken the helm of the Hope Without Sight Podcast, where he engages in thought-provoking interviews with individuals who have triumphed over adversity, becoming a source of inspiration to people around the globe.
Saylor's ambitions extend far beyond his current accomplishments. He actively seeks opportunities to connect with fellow entrepreneurs and share their remarkable journeys at renowned networking events like Podapolooza and Speakers Playhouse. Through collaboration with speaking coaches, he is honing his skills to grace different stages and deliver his empowering message to diverse audiences.
But that is just the beginning of Saylor's extraordinary aspirations. With plans to monetize his internet radio station and organize life coaching events, he aims to empower others in their pursuit of dreams. Furthermore, Saylor envisions a future filled with numerous literary works, including a captivating autobiography chronicling his own life and a collaborative masterpiece featuring the remarkable stories of his podcast guests.
Above all, Saylor's ultimate goal is simple yet profound: he strives to demonstrate to individuals facing challenges that anything is possible when dreams are fueled by unwavering dedication and hard work. With Saylor blazing a trail of possibility, the potential for each and every one of us is boundless.
Join Saylor Cooper on this remarkable journey of empowerment and achievement, and discover that the power to transform lives resides within us all.
To connect with Saylor and learn more about his inspiring work, please visit his E-business card here: https://ovou.me/livefasetiyacehe
About the Co-host:
Tyler Evans is an integral part of the entrepreneurial journey of his best friend and business partner, Saylor Cooper. Despite facing his own unique challenges, Tyler is determined to make a difference in the world through his hard work and unwavering dedication.
As an active participant in the day-to-day operations of Real Variety Radio, Tyler plays a crucial role in the success of the internet radio station that offers diverse programming from all genres of music and shows. He's also a key contributor to the Hope Without Sight Podcast, where he helps to bring inspiring guests who have overcome adversity to the forefront.
Tyler's passion for entrepreneurship is matched only by his love of networking. He enjoys attending events like Podapolooza and Speakers Playhouse, where he can connect with fellow entrepreneurs and learn from their experiences. While Tyler may not have founded or created anything on his own just yet, he's an important member of the team and his contributions to the venture are invaluable.
Looking to the future, Tyler shares Saylor's vision of making a difference in people's lives and inspiring others to pursue their dreams despite any challenges they may face. He's excited about the possibility of monetizing the internet radio station and hosting life coaching events alongside Saylor to help others reach their full potential.
Tyler's ultimate goal is to collaborate with Saylor on writing books that share their individual and joint experiences, including an autobiography about his own life. Together, they hope to demonstrate to the world that anything is possible if one has the courage to chase their dreams and put in the hard work necessary to achieve them. With Tyler's unwavering determination and entrepreneurial spirit, there's no doubt he'll continue to make a positive impact on the world around him.
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#BreakingTheSilence #OvercomingShame #JillsJourney #Hopewithoutsight
Hello, everybody, welcome to another episode of
Saylor Cooper:the help without site, Episode 54. With Jill Schultz, and with
Saylor Cooper:your host, Saylor Cooper,
Tyler Evans:and it was this is Tyler Evans.
Saylor Cooper:Yeah, here on another episode two episodes
Saylor Cooper:back to back. So, a summary of this guest, and it's deeply
Saylor Cooper:moving episode, we're joined by Jill is a brave individual who's
Saylor Cooper:chosen to step into light to address a very taboo topic
Saylor Cooper:that's often in darkness and shame. And Joe shares her story
Saylor Cooper:of travelling with the repercussions of childhood
Saylor Cooper:sexual trauma in the steps and the subsequent experimentation
Saylor Cooper:of other children. After 41 years of living under a cloud of
Saylor Cooper:shame and self loving, Joe has found a purpose in levelling
Saylor Cooper:others from the shackles of shame associated with this very
Saylor Cooper:sensitive topic. With her courageous action efforts, she
Saylor Cooper:aims to change the narrative surrounding children who has
Saylor Cooper:experienced sexual trauma in their interactions with peers.
Saylor Cooper:So join us as as we delve into a conversation that seeks to
Saylor Cooper:foster healing understanding, and a pathway to a life filled
Saylor Cooper:with love, success and abundance. Please welcome Jill
Saylor Cooper:Schultz. Do you sound very good today?
Jill Schultz:Thank you, thank you, thank you so much for
Jill Schultz:having me. I'm so excited.
Saylor Cooper:So i You must have a very deep trouble
Saylor Cooper:background. So take us all the way back as far as you could go.
Saylor Cooper:I mean, if you don't want to show everything, it's totally
Saylor Cooper:fine, but show what you want to show. Yeah,
Jill Schultz:thank you. Um, first of all, I want to just
Jill Schultz:take a minute and prepare people because what I get to share is a
Jill Schultz:story that people aren't talking about. And so I am creating a
Jill Schultz:movement to really bring this out into the light to help
Jill Schultz:people get past the shame. So I want you to know if this is your
Jill Schultz:story, and if this is the first time that you're hearing
Jill Schultz:somebody talk about it live, or if it's the first time that
Jill Schultz:you're having a memory of it, you know, I I see you and I'm
Jill Schultz:holding you in my heart. And please know that you get to get
Jill Schultz:help you get to talk about it, you get to find support. And my
Jill Schultz:only only hope is that I get to help set people free from the
Jill Schultz:shame that I lived with for 41 years. So just setting the space
Jill Schultz:for that it's really important to me because I need to make
Jill Schultz:sure people are protected and that people are you know,
Jill Schultz:supported so
Saylor Cooper:So would you say a listener discretion is advised
Saylor Cooper:for this episode, or Yes, I know it's sensitive.
Jill Schultz:Yes, it is very sensitive. So if you have
Jill Schultz:littles you might want to exit have them exit the building.
Jill Schultz:And, you know, just be prepared for for a little bit of a hard
Jill Schultz:topic, but I'm really happy that I get to share it because I
Jill Schultz:lived in shame for 41 years around this and I'm just you
Jill Schultz:know, when God I don't know if you believe in God, if you don't
Jill Schultz:believe in God, I do.
Saylor Cooper:We do. We do. We just got finished with an
Saylor Cooper:episode with a Christian lady who's a pastor and talked about
Saylor Cooper:God. Yeah. So
Tyler Evans:Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.
Jill Schultz:Well, you know, when when God first asked me to
Jill Schultz:do this, obviously, I was like, no. But now I get to see
Jill Schultz:everything that I've gone through the past 41 years is a
Jill Schultz:gift because now I get to share my story and hope that I get to
Jill Schultz:help people collapse time and get past the shame and love
Jill Schultz:themselves and forgive themselves. So I and I have to
Jill Schultz:say that I'm really grateful for the me to movement, because, you
Jill Schultz:know, this is around sexual trauma. And I I'm grateful that
Jill Schultz:those brave people, you know, stood up and talked about what
Jill Schultz:had happened to them, because I feel like now it's more of a
Jill Schultz:open space to be able to share around sexual trauma. But my
Jill Schultz:story goes deeper than that. I was molested when I was three or
Jill Schultz:four years old. I don't remember who did it. I've done therapy
Jill Schultz:around it. And I was told that I probably don't remember because
Jill Schultz:it was probably somebody that was really close to me, somebody
Jill Schultz:that I really loved. But what where my story goes is because
Jill Schultz:of what somebody taught me to do. I acted out with other
Jill Schultz:children in that way. So I was acting out sexually with other
Jill Schultz:children and I was horrible. Oh, yeah. Yeah. And the ages that
Jill Schultz:that was happening was in between seven and 12. And I
Jill Schultz:lived with debilitating shame around that for years and years
Jill Schultz:and years and years. And so you know if this is your story, if
Jill Schultz:this is like I said the first time You're hearing somebody
Jill Schultz:talk about this. If you're having a triggering memory that
Jill Schultz:this happened to you, please find somebody to talk to.
Jill Schultz:There's lots and lots and lots of places that you can go for
Jill Schultz:help. And if you don't mind, I'm just going to share my website
Jill Schultz:real quick, because I have
Saylor Cooper:you information, the chat should whatever you
Saylor Cooper:have your contact info, if you can put in the chat. I'll put my
Saylor Cooper:notes too. So while you're having all that'd be great.
Saylor Cooper:Yeah, absolutely.
Jill Schultz:Now I gotta put my readers on to see, make sure I'm
Jill Schultz:typing it, right. It's just Jilleschultz.com, is my website.
Jill Schultz:And on the website, there's a resources section. And there's a
Jill Schultz:section that says Get help. And there's lots and lots of
Jill Schultz:opportunities for people to reach out. And it can be
Jill Schultz:anonymously, if you want to reach out and share your story
Jill Schultz:anonymously, it can certainly be in an anonymous way, so that you
Jill Schultz:can get help around this. So that's kind of my story does
Jill Schultz:that in a nutshell.
Saylor Cooper:Wow. So after you were sexually molested by a
Saylor Cooper:close post, close relative? You think it was? So you did it at
Saylor Cooper:seven years old? Ever? Children or what?
Jill Schultz:Yeah, I started acting out. That's the earliest
Jill Schultz:that I can remember acting out was
Saylor Cooper:Wow. I'm surprised. Like, if you don't
Saylor Cooper:mind me asking, I'm surprised you weren't like charged
Saylor Cooper:anything. Because that that's really serious sweat.
Jill Schultz:Because of the age. That's why I wasn't you
Jill Schultz:know, I in fact, I did a lot of research before I started
Jill Schultz:sharing, like, well, that's not true. I started sharing my
Jill Schultz:story. immediately, as soon as I was like, Okay, this is my
Jill Schultz:purpose. I started sharing my story. And I had, I had a major
Jill Schultz:hiccup along the road where somebody told me, you know, hey,
Jill Schultz:you know, I would I would get legal counsel around this,
Jill Schultz:because, you know, you maybe can consider it a sexual what is
Jill Schultz:sorry, I just forgot, not sexual. registered as a sex
Jill Schultz:offender, thank you, registered sex offender. And, and you you
Jill Schultz:could be charged with a felony, but because I was under the age
Jill Schultz:of 14, in my state, it's something that they would not
Jill Schultz:move forward with. But it's still I mean, it's a hard thing
Jill Schultz:to talk about. It's a hard thing to admit who, but you know,
Jill Schultz:children do what people teach them, and horse. And, you know,
Jill Schultz:to say it, honestly, it was something that felt good. So,
Jill Schultz:you know, that way
Saylor Cooper:you were taught, you were taught to do that. And
Saylor Cooper:because, you know, children learn from older people and
Saylor Cooper:adults are lucky. We're conditioned to that. Yeah. And
Saylor Cooper:you see, I was very lucky that I never went through that. Because
Saylor Cooper:I could have gone through that. You know why? I won't be in the
Saylor Cooper:specifics, but my father was no good. He abandoned me and my
Saylor Cooper:sister when we were after we were born, he was not happy with
Saylor Cooper:the pregnancy to begin with. And yeah, be careful. I say, Listen,
Saylor Cooper:he's the best way to say he's a paedophile and womaniser and he,
Saylor Cooper:he has multiple affairs with women under age. And he can't do
Saylor Cooper:it in the States, because he knows the trouble. So he goes to
Saylor Cooper:other countries like Colombia and Cuba and the Caribbean to do
Saylor Cooper:it. And thank God that he was not in my life, because I will
Saylor Cooper:have that influence. And it it would not been good.
Saylor Cooper:Unfortunately, my half sister, no, I love her. I feel really
Saylor Cooper:bad for she, she went through that because she was raised by
Saylor Cooper:hand by him. And she was, of course, she was exposed to that
Saylor Cooper:sheet. She knew nothing better than she was conditioned. And so
Saylor Cooper:she's doing a lot better now that she's just so confused that
Saylor Cooper:she doesn't know what's normal and what's not. And one, one
Saylor Cooper:major topic I've been campaigning on is it kind of
Saylor Cooper:relates to this. I hate toxic masculinity and machismo. I
Saylor Cooper:can't stand this epidemic of men. That's not the way men
Saylor Cooper:should behave. Men should honour the wives and children and
Saylor Cooper:family. And machismo is about toxic masculinity is all about
Saylor Cooper:to be being tough. I'm still here, right?
Jill Schultz:Yeah, you are still here.
Saylor Cooper:It's about being tough. You know, Manning up.
Saylor Cooper:It's about sexual prowess. It's about I want to end this
Saylor Cooper:epidemic now. Yeah. And I'm not surprised you ever devastate
Saylor Cooper:you. He had massive toxic masculinity in him, right?
Tyler Evans:Yeah, well, you
Jill Schultz:know, I, I have, it's, I forgave the person who
Jill Schultz:hurt me a long time ago. And and in the healing process when it
Jill Schultz:when it comes to this, it's really, really important that
Jill Schultz:you forgive whoever it was who hurt you. Because if you holding
Jill Schultz:on to, it's only hurting you you're not forgiving that person
Jill Schultz:for them, you're forgiving that person for you. And I truly
Jill Schultz:believe that who ever hurt me? Somebody hurt them too. Right?
Jill Schultz:So, yeah, so I try and see the positive in in things as I move
Jill Schultz:forward through this. And I I love that your show is about
Jill Schultz:hope and inspiration. And we Yes, yeah. And so I want people
Jill Schultz:to know that. When you when life happens outside our comfort
Jill Schultz:zone, you know, when you when you face the hard things in your
Jill Schultz:life, and you look at them dead in the eye, and you say you
Jill Schultz:don't own me anymore, and you can forgive yourself and you can
Jill Schultz:love yourself, that's when you get to have this blank canvas,
Jill Schultz:where you get to create the life that you deserve to have the
Jill Schultz:life that you love. And so I love that you guys are really
Jill Schultz:about, you know, hope and inspiration. And it's really,
Jill Schultz:really wonderful.
Saylor Cooper:It's wonderful. Yeah. And maybe you could be
Saylor Cooper:instrumental in helping us too. And once you have a newfound
Saylor Cooper:purpose, painful past, you've taken up the mantle to address
Saylor Cooper:this to address the topic of childhood sexual abuse in the
Saylor Cooper:complex dynamics. Yeah. So you advocate, what do you do?
Jill Schultz:Well, so this whole thing is pretty new to me,
Jill Schultz:you know, I, I, it's taken a long time for me to get to the
Jill Schultz:place where I've healed. And once I got there, I had prayed
Jill Schultz:for my purpose for a very long time. I'm 55 years old, I didn't
Jill Schultz:get my purpose until I was 53 years old. And it was actually
Jill Schultz:quite painful. Because I knew I have I run several businesses,
Jill Schultz:and I love what I do. But I knew it wasn't at the core of why I
Jill Schultz:was here. And so when when God finally showed me that this,
Jill Schultz:this gets to be where I get to take things, I started to see it
Jill Schultz:as a gift, you know, I really get to see everything that's
Jill Schultz:happened up until now as a gift. And I remember several years
Jill Schultz:ago, listening to an Oprah Show, or watching an Oprah show and
Jill Schultz:she said, I want to be part of something that's bigger than
Jill Schultz:myself. I want to be part of something that's bigger than
Jill Schultz:myself. And I wrote that down. And be careful what you pray
Jill Schultz:for. Because now I get to step out and I get to share this
Jill Schultz:really vulnerable story in the hopes that you know, I can help
Jill Schultz:people heal quickly. And you know, find that self love and
Jill Schultz:that that self forgiveness.
Saylor Cooper:Exactly. Yeah, yeah, exactly. And, you know,
Saylor Cooper:we're doing a lot of stuff. Tyler, if you can tell Joe what
Saylor Cooper:we're doing, maybe we can invite you to these events. Right.
Tyler Evans:I'd love that. We have one event coming up
Tyler Evans:hopefully. Soon, the first Thursday in October, hopefully
Tyler Evans:we'll be premiering it. It's a lift your spirit party. And it's
Saylor Cooper:just gonna be launch it.
Tyler Evans:Yeah, I mean, we've had it before. But we're
Tyler Evans:relaunching it
Saylor Cooper:is a virtual. Yeah. On VM. Yes.
Tyler Evans:Okay. And this one's free. There's another
Tyler Evans:event that we're going to do. And it is, it's a membership
Tyler Evans:based deal. It's a basically, it's a blissful life community.
Tyler Evans:And that's $25 a month. Or you can pay $300 for an entire year
Tyler Evans:for the membership. And it's a zoom event, too. But it's more
Tyler Evans:in depth. It's more up than what lecture spare party is the
Tyler Evans:literal spirit party is like a preview.
Jill Schultz:Sure, I love it. Well, thank you for putting that
Jill Schultz:out too. Exactly.
Tyler Evans:And we also have the chance for the number you
Tyler Evans:can text the word bliss,
Saylor Cooper:bliss. 283-281-6806.
Tyler Evans:Perfect. Yeah, yeah,
Saylor Cooper:I'm putting this information in the chat too.
Tyler Evans:Absolutely. So um, you know, one of the things that
Tyler Evans:concerns me a little bit there are men who have been falsely
Tyler Evans:accused of sex service. Let's say there's like some men have.
Tyler Evans:I'm not saying that it's very, very common, but it does occur.
Tyler Evans:What would you say to those men who may have been falsely
Tyler Evans:accused, and their reputations have been damaged? Yeah,
Jill Schultz:that's a hard. That's a hard question for me.
Tyler Evans:Yeah. Because I'm sorry. There are some men who
Tyler Evans:have been falsely accused. Yeah.
Jill Schultz:The only reason I say that's a hard question for
Jill Schultz:me is because number one, no one's ever asked me that
Jill Schultz:question. Number two, I've never thought about it. And yeah, you
Jill Schultz:know, I, I don't want to give an opinion on something that is not
Jill Schultz:something that's really in my wheelhouse. But I think this is
Jill Schultz:what I would say. And I think that this, it might be hard to
Jill Schultz:hear, but I think life happens for us. I believe that
Jill Schultz:everything happens in our life is for us. And just like my
Jill Schultz:abuse when I was abused, you know, I really believe that it
Jill Schultz:happened for a reason I believe it happened for so that I could
Jill Schultz:be this person today. And I could talk about it. So, you
Jill Schultz:know, just hold on to hope that, you know, you get your name
Jill Schultz:cleared and Exactly. Pray that something good comes out of it.
Jill Schultz:You know, yeah, I
Tyler Evans:believe I believe that every bad circumstance,
Tyler Evans:something good can come out of it. Yeah, that's what I believe.
Tyler Evans:You know, me and Sailor sailor and I brother. We were both born
Tyler Evans:three months premature, weren't expected to survive. And we both
Tyler Evans:had a twin, whose eyes reverse from blindness to sight. Except
Tyler Evans:I have a twin brother. He has twin sister. He has a twin
Tyler Evans:sister. And it's really cool. You know, he mentioned having a
Tyler Evans:half sister too. But the twin sister, as far as I know, is not
Tyler Evans:to have sister. Yeah. But yeah. But I have a twin brother. And
Tyler Evans:he's fully sighted. He drives he does everything. You know, he
Tyler Evans:works. And it's really cool. How our stories are really similar.
Tyler Evans:And what's interesting about my story, I have a tonne. I have an
Tyler Evans:I keep saying I have a half sister also. From a different
Tyler Evans:father. He was abusive to my mom before she ever met my dad. Just
Tyler Evans:you know, abusive. Yeah.
Saylor Cooper:How did you guys meet when we met in college?
Tyler Evans:Okay. Yeah, we went to Stephen F. Austin University
Tyler Evans:and that Caduceus Yeah. And we were in love. We were the club
Tyler Evans:to call. We were in a club called the Braylon Kane club.
Tyler Evans:And that's how we met it's advocacy group for the blind,
Tyler Evans:actually, which is really cool. And, you know, it's just, we
Tyler Evans:just, we just clicked like, yeah, being best friends. And
Tyler Evans:years later, we said, you know, we've been looking looking
Tyler Evans:looking for work, we said, you know, a lot of employers don't
Tyler Evans:want to hire blind people, because they make up every
Tyler Evans:excuse in the book. And so we said, you know, we're just gonna
Tyler Evans:do our own thing.
Saylor Cooper:Yeah, here we are. And so, if you can help us
Saylor Cooper:promote our events, I put everything in the chat,
Saylor Cooper:including my contact information. So as always, if
Saylor Cooper:you can please save chat, save chat, save chat that.
Tyler Evans:Yeah, absolutely. And who knows? Maybe you might
Tyler Evans:be on the payroll one day. I don't know. Um, hopefully,
Tyler Evans:you're going to be on the payroll in the coming months.
Tyler Evans:Maybe. We shall see.
Saylor Cooper:Better Yeah, beautiful. So Joe, like so did
Saylor Cooper:you. You dealt with 41 years of ashame not like, practising on
Saylor Cooper:children themselves, right. Oh,
Jill Schultz:no, no, no, no, no, no, I was. Yeah, that's
Jill Schultz:good. No, no, no, the last time was when I was 12 years old.
Tyler Evans:Wow. So you did?
Jill Schultz:Yeah. And you know, it's really interesting.
Jill Schultz:So I've written a book, and my book is coming out in November
Jill Schultz:1, I'm really proud of this book. And it's called liberated,
Jill Schultz:liberated, releasing the dark cloud of shame. And there's
Jill Schultz:several other people who have contributed to the book. Once I
Jill Schultz:started sharing my story. It was unbelievable to me the number of
Jill Schultz:people that was like that said, you know, that's, that's my
Jill Schultz:story, too. That's my story, too. And so that's how the book
Jill Schultz:came about. And I don't know why I started talking about the
Jill Schultz:book. There was a point you said something to me. And there was a
Jill Schultz:Oh, I know what doesn't say. So. you'd asked me about if I was
Jill Schultz:still hurting children. 41 years later? No, I was still a child
Jill Schultz:the last time that that happened and it as I was talking to
Jill Schultz:people Going as people were sharing their stories around the
Jill Schultz:age of 12 is about the same age that other children who are like
Jill Schultz:me had stopped doing it. So I don't know what that age means.
Jill Schultz:But it was really interesting to me that around eight
Saylor Cooper:years old was when puberty like they will
Saylor Cooper:realise
Jill Schultz:maybe yeah, knowing that it was. Yeah.
Saylor Cooper:Yeah. Because of course, children know, young
Saylor Cooper:data. They don't they don't know better. They don't know about
Saylor Cooper:sexual stuff. You know? No,
Tyler Evans:no, this thing call, it's just something that
Tyler Evans:just makes you feel good. They don't have a concept yet.
Jill Schultz:Yeah, I want to make it very clear. I was not
Jill Schultz:acting out with children for 41 years. Oh, yeah. It was in the
Jill Schultz:eighth between the ages when I was seven years old and 12 years
Jill Schultz:old. So
Saylor Cooper:you just felt you just felt the shame of it all.
Saylor Cooper:And you finally have let go of it like,
Jill Schultz:I have now. Yeah, for it. Yeah, it took a long
Jill Schultz:time. But the you know, what I would say to people is do the
Jill Schultz:work, you know, look at it, talk to somebody, that's the first
Jill Schultz:step, get it out of your body and say it out loud, even if
Jill Schultz:it's just you saying it in the mirror, I'll share that I
Jill Schultz:remember the first time that I talked about it. I was 33 years
Jill Schultz:old. And I had started going to therapy because I realised that
Jill Schultz:I wasn't connecting with men. I would be in a room and a man
Jill Schultz:would walk in the room and he would look at me and I would
Jill Schultz:immediately look down. And I never wanted a man to see me.
Jill Schultz:And I thought, oh my god, if this man sees me, how can he
Jill Schultz:love me knowing what I've done? And now I get to say how can he
Jill Schultz:not love me knowing what I've been through knowing, you know,
Jill Schultz:knowing what I how I get to help people now and but when I would
Jill Schultz:go into therapy, those first couple of times, and I would
Jill Schultz:have to share my story with with the therapist. I had this just
Jill Schultz:huge knot in my stomach. Because honestly, I thought I was the
Jill Schultz:only child that ever did this, I thought I was the only child
Jill Schultz:that ever acted out like this. And so having to walk into a
Jill Schultz:room and share my deepest, darkest secret with somebody was
Jill Schultz:terrifying. And since then, every single time that I've
Jill Schultz:shared my story, the level of love and kindness and
Jill Schultz:understanding and compassion that's been on the other side of
Jill Schultz:that has been just unbelievably beautiful. So I want people to
Jill Schultz:know, your biggest fear of telling somebody about this your
Jill Schultz:biggest fear that they're going to look at you and they're going
Jill Schultz:to think you're a monster and a paedophile is not true. It's
Jill Schultz:false. And you get to release yourself from this, you get to
Jill Schultz:get it out of your body.
Saylor Cooper:Only do it with someone who you trust. And
Saylor Cooper:that's why you went to a therapist, right? Yeah. And you
Saylor Cooper:didn't do this until you have bowties. Wow. 3033 Yep. And, and
Saylor Cooper:so of course, you wouldn't tell you a family, you wouldn't tell
Saylor Cooper:your parents because they were afraid that you afraid that they
Saylor Cooper:will criticise you and stuff.
Jill Schultz:I didn't tell my parents until five years ago.
Saylor Cooper:And what did they How did they react?
Jill Schultz:They, they were extremely compassionate. They're
Jill Schultz:very supportive of everything that I'm doing right now. And
Jill Schultz:they're, you know, they were, they're just like, we don't know
Jill Schultz:how you could have been hurt by somebody else. We watched you
Jill Schultz:all the time, we knew where you were all the time. And so for a
Jill Schultz:parent, there's this deep level of shame, knowing that their
Jill Schultz:baby had gotten hurt by somebody. And the thing is, is
Jill Schultz:most often it is somebody that's close to you. The whole story of
Jill Schultz:the boogey man in the bushes waiting to molest a child is is
Jill Schultz:very, very, very rare. It's typically somebody who's very
Jill Schultz:close to that to that child, somebody who has access to that
Jill Schultz:child and uncle, a cousin, a brother, you know, so they have
Jill Schultz:been amazing, and but they have felt really, really badly about
Jill Schultz:the fact that it happened to me, you know, but I get to share the
Jill Schultz:that now I get to see this as a gift. And, and like I said
Jill Schultz:earlier, I think everything happens for us. And this
Jill Schultz:happened for a reason for me to now be able to share my story so
Jill Schultz:and
Saylor Cooper:so they had no idea. They thought everything
Saylor Cooper:was totally fine. They had no idea that you would come to
Saylor Cooper:complete secret.
Jill Schultz:No, they they knew actually. So they they didn't
Jill Schultz:know that I had been molested, but they did know that I had
Jill Schultz:acted out when I was younger. But they didn't know why. And it
Jill Schultz:was something that we kept as a secret for years and years and
Jill Schultz:years and years. Like we never talked about it. And you know,
Jill Schultz:nobody, nobody knows what to say in this kind of a situation.
Jill Schultz:There's no training manual. If you have a child that's acted
Jill Schultz:out, so I want you to know that too. If you're a parent, and
Jill Schultz:your child has acted out. There's I'm not saying this to
Jill Schultz:keep plugging In my book, but I want to be able to help people.
Jill Schultz:And there's actually a chapter in my book that talks about what
Jill Schultz:to do if my therapist wrote a chapter chapter in my book about
Jill Schultz:what to do if your child has been hurt, or what conversations
Jill Schultz:to have with your child, so that they are not put in a situation
Jill Schultz:where they can get hurt, like, where they know how to have
Jill Schultz:boundaries, and they know what to say. So that they are not so
Jill Schultz:that they're not hurt.
Saylor Cooper:Exactly. Yeah. Yeah, cuz you know, sex can be
Saylor Cooper:beautiful. You just have to do it responsibly, you know. And
Saylor Cooper:so, your books coming out in November will be available.
Jill Schultz:It will be available on my website, which
Jill Schultz:is in the chat, Julie schultz.com. There's actually,
Jill Schultz:we're doing a pre sale right now. So you're welcome to go
Jill Schultz:there. And it'll be ready to purchase in the next week. So if
Jill Schultz:you want to go on there, and purchase that it'll be available
Jill Schultz:to purchase in the next
Saylor Cooper:week. Well, in the chat, you'll see I have a
Saylor Cooper:book that came out last night. Awesome and navigate life's
Saylor Cooper:challenges, understand different personalities and get along and
Saylor Cooper:one of my favourite chapters in there is machismo and toxic
Saylor Cooper:masculinity, which you know, by now, I'm not a fan of, I'm proud
Saylor Cooper:of the man who I am, I'll never become that type of man. And I
Saylor Cooper:haven't include song analysis analyses in there to relate
Saylor Cooper:emotions to music because they say music is therapy without a
Saylor Cooper:doubt. Oh,
Jill Schultz:yeah, I die for music. Like, that's my biggest
Jill Schultz:passion is music. I just it is so healing and releasing and
Jill Schultz:like, yeah, I am obsessed with music. You would say?
Saylor Cooper:Me? Yeah. Yeah. So other than that, do you have
Saylor Cooper:anything else? Because if not, like, what are your future
Saylor Cooper:goals?
Jill Schultz:Yeah, thank you for asking that. So what I would
Jill Schultz:say is, you know, if this is your story, please find somebody
Jill Schultz:to talk to please find somebody safe if you need it to be
Jill Schultz:anonymous. Find one of the resources, the first step is
Jill Schultz:getting it out of you. And you know, getting it out of your
Jill Schultz:body. My goals are just to share this anywhere and everywhere
Jill Schultz:that I can when I first so I believe that every desire on our
Jill Schultz:heart was given to us by God. Yes, it was. And I believe that
Jill Schultz:I'm I love manifesting like I have a beautiful morning
Jill Schultz:practice and it's this little dance manifestation. Yes, it's
Jill Schultz:this little dance I do with God every day. And when I when I
Jill Schultz:first decided that I was going to take this on I heard of a
Jill Schultz:woman named Amanda Francis. She wrote a book I won't say it's
Jill Schultz:Rich's F but she's met a manifesting queen and she she's
Jill Schultz:the one that said you know, everything on our heart was
Jill Schultz:given to us by God and it's your only job every day to feel what
Jill Schultz:it feels like to have that and know that you get to have that
Jill Schultz:and I saw a vision of Tony Robbins right after I decided to
Jill Schultz:write this book. And so my big big big vision is I get to align
Jill Schultz:with Tony Robbins and he gets to help me promote this book
Jill Schultz:whether it's me speaking on your stage or whatever it looks like
Jill Schultz:I don't know God is just keeps telling me that it gets to
Jill Schultz:happen. So that's my big big big goal is getting on big stages to
Jill Schultz:share my story to help people get past the shame.
Saylor Cooper:Yeah, I'm thinking a manifestation I have
Saylor Cooper:a wonderful lady in my life. She's my favourite. And of
Saylor Cooper:course she's known me since I was born. She and I talked about
Saylor Cooper:the art of manifestation and what you're saying doing it
Saylor Cooper:truly love it hits home, and I hope to manifest that if we're
Saylor Cooper:successful in this business now I found love my life a good
Saylor Cooper:lady. And yeah, it's all wonderful.
Jill Schultz:Music and manifesting, those are my two
Saylor Cooper:passions me to meet you. And so how can people
Saylor Cooper:talking honestly, like who can they go to? What are some
Saylor Cooper:resources and if you can put those in the chat, that'd be
Saylor Cooper:great. I can even go to you.
Jill Schultz:Well, I would love to say that I'm the person for
Jill Schultz:them to come to but I'm not a therapist. So I'm not qualified
Jill Schultz:to get into the weeds with people about what their shame
Jill Schultz:is. I do have a website called Living Unchained, where it's a
Jill Schultz:community of people like minded people. But the best place that
Jill Schultz:I would say to go for resources to get help is my website JL e
Jill Schultz:schultz.com. Under resources under Get help. There's an
Jill Schultz:organisation called rain. That is an anonymous place for people
Jill Schultz:to go there's also a, an incest organisation. So if this is
Jill Schultz:something that you have shame around, there's a there's a
Jill Schultz:website there for that. There's about 10 different resources
Jill Schultz:there. There's also a resource for sex trafficking, there's a
Jill Schultz:suicide hotline. So just wherever you're at, please make
Jill Schultz:sure that you are taking care of you. And you're getting help.
Jill Schultz:Because I promise you, I promise you, I promise you, it is so
Jill Schultz:beautiful on the other side of healing. Like I say, I used to
Jill Schultz:have this dark cloud, like it was always over my head. And it
Jill Schultz:was the shame that I had, and I wake up and it was there, and
Jill Schultz:I'd go to sleep and it was there. And it was always there.
Jill Schultz:And now that I've been able to release that, and forgive myself
Jill Schultz:and love myself, the cloud is gone. I look for the cloud,
Jill Schultz:gone.
Saylor Cooper:And as long as people like ask for help, and
Saylor Cooper:talking honestly, like, it's like, they won't report them
Saylor Cooper:leaving, like no, even though they did something wrong, they
Saylor Cooper:won't know. Yeah, say, Well, what's up, as long as people get
Saylor Cooper:help and talk anonymously, like they won't report them? Like to
Saylor Cooper:a full unique thing?
Jill Schultz:I don't know about adults. I don't know how that
Jill Schultz:works. If you're an adult, and you're, you know, you're hurting
Jill Schultz:children. I don't know. It's like
Saylor Cooper:it probably. Yeah, they probably weren't. But
Tyler Evans:I think in some cases, they have to report it.
Tyler Evans:Yeah. Yeah. You know, Dr. Phil, Dr. Phil is a mandated reporter.
Tyler Evans:Like so if he were to suspect or even know a crime is dangerous,
Tyler Evans:he has to report it mandatory. Even though he is a really like
Tyler Evans:Dr. Phil, I mean, I'm a big fan. Of
Saylor Cooper:course, there's forgiveness and all that, you
Saylor Cooper:know, absolutely. And
Tyler Evans:doesn't mean you're free from all the consequences
Tyler Evans:necessarily, you know, you can be forgiven, but still suffer
Tyler Evans:consequences of your actions, particularly criminal. You know,
Tyler Evans:because sometimes you gotta,
Saylor Cooper:luckily, like this happened to you as a child,
Saylor Cooper:you did this as a child, non adult, that's how you you able
Saylor Cooper:to, you know, get past it without getting severe
Saylor Cooper:consequences. Yeah. Yeah. And also, who's Tony Robbins, he's
Saylor Cooper:very famous. So who is he who
Jill Schultz:Yeah, Tony Robbins is a speaker. He's, he his, he
Jill Schultz:has a huge, huge, huge influence. He's a really
Jill Schultz:beautiful soul. And he's got different conferences, like I
Jill Schultz:did one of his called Unleash the Power Within. And honestly,
Jill Schultz:that was another phase in my, in my healing being at his
Jill Schultz:conference. So any type of work that people can do like that
Jill Schultz:I've done landmark education, I did hardcore leadership.
Jill Schultz:Hardcore was and I don't know if it's because that's in my life,
Jill Schultz:where I was at the place where I really was ready to let go of
Jill Schultz:everything. But I got massive, massive healing for myself, I
Jill Schultz:didn't love myself until I was 51 years old. Wow, just four
Jill Schultz:years ago, when I was in that programme is where I got to
Jill Schultz:release a lot of this. And so find, you know, those types of
Jill Schultz:workshops are amazing, too, if you want to get through it
Jill Schultz:quickly, like really look at it and do the work to get past all
Jill Schultz:of this.
Saylor Cooper:Now, enjoy,
Jill Schultz:I'm trying to align with people, because I
Jill Schultz:don't even know how to say this, but I feel like old therapy is
Jill Schultz:you know, some people go to therapy for 20 years for the
Jill Schultz:same issue. And now there's a lot of new modalities and
Jill Schultz:there's new techniques that people can use and participate
Jill Schultz:in to get past the pain faster. So that is my goal now is to get
Jill Schultz:aligned with other therapists and things like that that are
Jill Schultz:doing different types of healing that helps people get there
Jill Schultz:quicker.
Saylor Cooper:Wow. Tell me are you male, you anything like that
Saylor Cooper:now?
Jill Schultz:I am not I'm looking for love. I'm very
Jill Schultz:single and very open. I I get to you know, all of this shame held
Jill Schultz:me back from from love. It held me back from success in my
Jill Schultz:businesses. And now I know that I get to have the most beautiful
Jill Schultz:man in my life. And I get to have success in my businesses.
Jill Schultz:And so
Saylor Cooper:And one last thing. Yeah, I know it's a
Saylor Cooper:sensitive, I'm sure your mind. Will you ever. So love it you
Saylor Cooper:long a blink of suicide?
Jill Schultz:That is a great question. You know what, I never
Jill Schultz:contemplated suicide until I was writing the book. Wow. Yeah. And
Jill Schultz:honestly, that was all tied up. And you know how I talked
Jill Schultz:earlier about whether I could be registered as a sex offender or
Jill Schultz:register whether I would be brought up on charges as a child
Jill Schultz:for this, right? All of that was happening. I thought, this book
Jill Schultz:has to get out. I am not going to sacrifice my soul and go to
Jill Schultz:jail to get this book out there. So I thought Okay, if I write
Jill Schultz:this book, what if I'm just not here? Are
Saylor Cooper:you afraid of repercussions? I hear you.
Jill Schultz:Yeah, I knew the book needed to be out there I
Jill Schultz:was afraid of the repercussions. So I thought if I'm not here if
Jill Schultz:the book is written in the book is out there. So that was the
Jill Schultz:only time that I ever had that thought. And it can I do we need
Jill Schultz:to go can I share really quick?
Saylor Cooper:No, no, we got we got time. Okay,
Jill Schultz:so um, we talked about music and you know, when
Jill Schultz:it comes to manifesting and creating the life that you love,
Jill Schultz:and God loves for you to test him around manifesting. So one
Jill Schultz:of the things that I said was okay, God, if you really want
Jill Schultz:this book out there, I want to hear Sia, unstoppable.
Saylor Cooper:Oh, that's, that's that song just came out.
Saylor Cooper:See? Yeah, yeah. Isn't that amazing? Yeah. I see. I went
Saylor Cooper:through some bad stuff, too. I think she Yeah,
Jill Schultz:I I know that she is in. She's in recovery. I
Jill Schultz:don't know much about her past. But she was really pivotal. That
Jill Schultz:song was really pivotal in this book. And so it took a couple of
Jill Schultz:weeks for me to hear the song and and when all of that was
Jill Schultz:happening with the legal stuff. I heard sia unstoppable. My
Jill Schultz:girlfriend who I told that that song was, you know, kind of a
Jill Schultz:kind of what this book is about, you know, it was like very
Jill Schultz:pivotal in this book happening. She heard the song The same day
Jill Schultz:and call me but so that song came out in 2016. That song was
Jill Schultz:originally released in 2016. And this year, this last year on New
Jill Schultz:Year's Eve, 2023, New Year's Eve on the Miley Cyrus, New Year's
Jill Schultz:Eve Ball Drop, sia saying unstoppable. There was no reason
Jill Schultz:for her to sing it because it had been released a long time
Jill Schultz:ago. So that was just a little sign from God for me that I was
Jill Schultz:on path. But when it came to you asked me about did I ever think
Jill Schultz:about killing myself. And I knew that when I heard that song that
Jill Schultz:God was going to work everything out. And he has surrender has
Jill Schultz:been my word for the year like I've had to surrender. And I
Jill Schultz:knew that this was God's project, not mine. I just get to
Jill Schultz:be the vessel that he works through
Saylor Cooper:that Oh, guiding you.
Jill Schultz:He's guiding me and he's fit. He's figuring
Jill Schultz:everything out. So every time there's an obstacle, or every
Jill Schultz:time, there's a hiccup, I'm like, Alright, God, you figure
Jill Schultz:it out. And he keeps, keeps figuring it out. So if you are
Jill Schultz:in a place where you've contemplated suicide, just to
Jill Schultz:bring it back around, please, please, please get help. Because
Jill Schultz:it's, it's it's bright and beautiful. On the other side, I
Jill Schultz:promise you.
Saylor Cooper:So to be clear, you started writing a book five,
Saylor Cooper:five years ago, less than that?
Jill Schultz:No, no, no. In fact, I didn't want to even
Jill Schultz:write a book. I when I first agreed to do this with God, all
Jill Schultz:I wanted to do is get on stages and shout my, you know, my story
Jill Schultz:from the rooftops so I can help people and I have a really good
Jill Schultz:friend. He's a international speakers name's PJ and I talked
Jill Schultz:to him and he said, If you want to get on stages, you got to
Jill Schultz:write a book. And I'm like, I don't want to write a book. Wow,
Jill Schultz:the book came about. And that also came from me sharing my
Jill Schultz:story. I told you earlier that there's other authors in the
Jill Schultz:book. And every time I would share my story, and somebody
Jill Schultz:would like, that's my story. So that's part of who the authors
Jill Schultz:are in the book. Now they're anonymously speaking in the
Jill Schultz:book. I'm not anonymously speaking in the book. I'm
Jill Schultz:putting it all out there. Wow. Yeah. And so
Saylor Cooper:even even if this book comes out, if they wanted
Saylor Cooper:to charge you, I mean, they couldn't because number one, you
Saylor Cooper:will Chow but also show you this. Since you did this a long
Saylor Cooper:time ago. There's no evidence, right. But how does this work? I
Saylor Cooper:would love
Jill Schultz:to answer that question. But it's legal. All I
Jill Schultz:know is I hired an attorney to make sure that I was okay to
Jill Schultz:share my story. And she said yes, because of the state that I
Jill Schultz:lived in. And because I was under the age of 14, I'm able to
Jill Schultz:talk about this, which I'm grateful for. Because, you know,
Jill Schultz:I thought okay, do I need to release the book anonymously,
Jill Schultz:and you know, all that stuff, but God has cleared that path.
Jill Schultz:And
Saylor Cooper:yet now? Yeah, you're not only sharing it not
Saylor Cooper:to like, cause drama. You're sharing it to help others. Help
Saylor Cooper:others. Yeah. And, and so like, what state you live in? Where do
Saylor Cooper:you live in? I'm in California. Oh, California. Oh, wow. La La.
Saylor Cooper:You know, I'm in San Diego. San Diego near Tijuana. Mexico.
Saylor Cooper:Yeah, yes. My house. Yeah, but no, we were in Texas. But yeah,
Saylor Cooper:but it's, it's, that's awesome work. So other than that your
Saylor Cooper:future goals include leasing a book, just doing advocacy,
Saylor Cooper:right. Yeah, exactly. Well, one last question our customers
Saylor Cooper:Ending? Oh, what would you say to someone who's struggling in
Saylor Cooper:life and doesn't know where to turn? I know you can answer it.
Saylor Cooper:So well take it away. Yeah.
Jill Schultz:Like I said, just, you know, find an organisation.
Jill Schultz:There's so many resources on Facebook and I know we're
Jill Schultz:streaming live right now, like, you can just type into the
Jill Schultz:search bar, any topic and you're going to find a support group in
Jill Schultz:that space. And life happens outside your comfort zone. So
Jill Schultz:look at the hard things in your life, face them head on. Shame
Jill Schultz:cannot live in the light. And so
Saylor Cooper:bliss can Yes, bliss, bliss, bliss. I love
Saylor Cooper:bliss. What about you? I do, too. I love that word. And
Saylor Cooper:hopefully you can join our blissful life community.
Jill Schultz:I love it. Well, let's connect because you we
Jill Schultz:have each other's emails address. So send me the
Jill Schultz:information. And I would love that.
Saylor Cooper:Yeah, if you can please like, if you didn't like
Saylor Cooper:exchange your information in the chat, I put my contact colour
Saylor Cooper:now. If you can shape it, save the chat, you click on my
Saylor Cooper:contact link button called exchange contact. That way I can
Saylor Cooper:have all my contacts in one place. So you can do that.
Saylor Cooper:That'd be great.
Jill Schultz:I will have you tell me how to do that when we
Jill Schultz:stop this.
Saylor Cooper:Okay, awesome. Yeah. Wonderful. Well, yeah.
Saylor Cooper:Well, thanks so much for being on hopefully. Give it up for
Saylor Cooper:Jill Schultz. Thank
Jill Schultz:you. Thanks so much for having me today.
Saylor Cooper:Stay blessed everybody, and live life in
Saylor Cooper:bliss.
