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In today’s episode, I welcome back a previous guest, Winston Yeung to talk about his experiences in a sensory deprivation tank and how it led him to connect with the consciousness of other beings, including that of a dog and someone drifting in space. Tune in to hear his theories about this experience and the lessons it taught him.
About Our Guest Winston Yeung
Winston Yeung founded the VoiceStory Foundation, a non-profit organization that is creating social connections, facilitates personal healing, and promotes community building. This is done through the speaking platform – VoiceStory Live, educational workshops, mastermind, mentorship, and coaching to develop an individual’s ability to embrace and share their unique stories.
How to connect with Winston Yeung:
email: winston@voicestory.ca
website: www.voicestory.ca
book a call to connect: https://calendly.com/winstonyeung/15
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Join the VoiceStory community and be part of the conversation at https://www.facebook.com/groups/voicestory
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Anita Adams:joyful journey podcast and today I'm excited to welcome back
Anita Adams:previous guests to the show Winston Young. Winston is the
Anita Adams:founder of voice story that was designed to tackle the issue of
Anita Adams:social isolation that is prevalent in society today.
Anita Adams:Winston is passionate about connecting broken adults with
Anita Adams:their inner child, taking a deep dive into your own spiritual
Anita Adams:beingness is a part of who Winston is. And today, he's
Anita Adams:going to share with us his experience of tapping into a
Anita Adams:higher consciousness by using a sensory deprivation tank.
Anita Adams:Welcome back, Winston. And thanks for being open to sharing
Anita Adams:your your stories and your experiences with us today.
Winston Yeung:Thanks for having me back.
Anita Adams:Yeah, I'm always excited to talk to you, Winston,
Anita Adams:you always inspire me and you have such interesting, unique
Anita Adams:story. So I'm really excited about about getting into it. But
Anita Adams:to start just in case, there's anybody listening who doesn't
Anita Adams:really know what a sensory deprivation tank is and how one
Anita Adams:uses it. Can you just explain a little bit more about what that
Anita Adams:is? Sure. There's
Winston Yeung:two types of sensory deprivation tanks one,
Winston Yeung:the more classic version, it's called a pod. It's a it's it's
Winston Yeung:like it's like a big orb. And inside is a layer of water about
Winston Yeung:eight to 10 inches high. saturated with about four to 500
Winston Yeung:pounds of Epsom salts, and it's heated to skin temperatures. So
Winston Yeung:when you're, you're brilliant in it. And that removes the
Winston Yeung:sensation of gravity. And then when you close the door to the
Winston Yeung:pod, it blocks out any sound and light. So you are free of any
Winston Yeung:outside stimulus. You're deprived of sensations. The
Winston Yeung:newer version is called a like sensory deprivation tank cabins,
Winston Yeung:which is about the size of your bathroom. And then the floor is
Winston Yeung:a layer of water. Same thing, eight to 10 inches tall, you're
Winston Yeung:in there. But because there's a tall ceiling, it also removes
Winston Yeung:the sensation of humidity because in a pod, it's very,
Winston Yeung:it's warm, like and some people prefer that for me. Because I'm
Winston Yeung:in the tank for three hours at a time. I don't want to have the
Winston Yeung:humidity distract me. So I preferred be able to have the
Winston Yeung:bigger space. You're in there. I call it turning Airplane Mode on
Winston Yeung:for your mind or for your body because you're in there and
Winston Yeung:that's it. There's there's no signals,
Anita Adams:right? No, no like no sound. I guess you're
Anita Adams:probably naked so you don't feel the distraction of any clothes
Anita Adams:irritating you.
Winston Yeung:I go in I go in naked. Some people can wear swim
Winston Yeung:trunks or swimsuit, it it doesn't really affect the
Winston Yeung:experience at all. It's just your own comfort level. But I
Winston Yeung:when I first started, I was told that it's like walking back into
Winston Yeung:the womb. And it really is it's it's warm, and it's it's
Winston Yeung:enclosed. And for some people if you have claustrophobia might
Winston Yeung:feel very disorienting. And if you've never done it before, you
Winston Yeung:become very aware of how much chatter there is going on inside
Winston Yeung:your head. And how hard it is to relax because we're just
Winston Yeung:stimulated all the time. So turn all that off. And you're alone
Winston Yeung:with your thoughts. It can be an interesting place.
Anita Adams:Yeah, yeah, interesting. I read that some of
Anita Adams:the SPAS or places that you can go for this that there'll be 10
Anita Adams:minutes of music like when you first step in for and then that
Anita Adams:shuts off and then at the end towards the end five minutes and
Anita Adams:music again to bring you back back to your present. I wonder
Anita Adams:if that says has that what you've experienced, they the
Anita Adams:places that you've gone to they use music just kind of ease you
Anita Adams:into it.
Winston Yeung:Yes, when you first start off the give you the
Winston Yeung:option. I typically go cold pill jumping. Caught was to jump
Winston Yeung:right in right away, right? No, I went in with no music. I had
Winston Yeung:no idea what was going on. So I, and I was curious about what's
Winston Yeung:going on inside my head. It took about three or four times. And
Winston Yeung:then when it really clicked, I remember I had my arms above me,
Winston Yeung:like stretched out. And I was trying to find a way so I could
Winston Yeung:feel the tension in my shoulders. As I'm moving my
Winston Yeung:hands around. The next thing I hear the wakeup music turned on
Winston Yeung:I go. Okay, that's, that's really weird. That's not
Winston Yeung:possible. There's no way it could have been trying to find a
Winston Yeung:comfortable position for 90 minutes. Then Then I realized I
Winston Yeung:blinked out, like, wow, I turned off. And then the music brought
Winston Yeung:me back. And the deep thought I had is okay, if so I turned off,
Winston Yeung:did everything outside their pauses to like, did that. Since
Winston Yeung:the minutes is over? I wasn't around. The consciousness wasn't
Winston Yeung:active. Was the world still running? Or not on pause to?
Winston Yeung:That's a whole other conversation. I started chasing
Winston Yeung:after that. That feeling it was it's like turning yourself off.
Anita Adams:Well, wait a minute, but so chasing after
Anita Adams:what feeling because you it was nothingness. Like
Winston Yeung:that. After the that feeling of being turned,
Winston Yeung:like turning the switch off? Right. Like, in your mind now.
Winston Yeung:And if that's the analogy people would understand is turning your
Winston Yeung:phone off. Yeah, and then turning it back on. So you kind
Winston Yeung:of like reboot yourself. In that sense. That feeling when I came
Winston Yeung:back, I was so relaxed and vigor, like my whole body was
Winston Yeung:kind of like reset. And I was chasing after that feeling. No,
Winston Yeung:spoiler alert for a bunch of people. I realized that chasing
Winston Yeung:after that feeling just prevented me from getting that
Winston Yeung:feeling.
Anita Adams:Isn't that interesting? So you had this, it
Anita Adams:happened the first time because you had almost like no
Anita Adams:expectations. You just were there and you were experiencing.
Anita Adams:So and Have you have you been able to get that again? Or
Anita Adams:because you've let go? Or you're? You're so much in your
Anita Adams:head about trying to create that. That's not happening.
Winston Yeung:I've gotten back there once. Okay. And so it was
Winston Yeung:like once in how long? I've been floating for 14 years.
Unknown:14 years. Yeah. Okay.
Winston Yeung:So I've got I've attained, turn off, we'll call
Winston Yeung:it turn turn off mode, twice, only in 14 years. And the first
Winston Yeung:time was completely unintentional. I had no idea and
Winston Yeung:it just happened. And then the other time, it was similar where
Winston Yeung:I just gave in. And it happened most of the other work that I as
Winston Yeung:I'm doing work in there. I'm conscious, I'm actively
Winston Yeung:conscious or, or, like, the awareness is left on kind of
Winston Yeung:like yeah, like if I'm not completely drifting off. Like
Winston Yeung:I'm still scanning. So you can't turn off if Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Winston Yeung:Yeah, that's, that's a conscious choice that I'm making.
Anita Adams:Yeah, I did a little bit of research about the
Anita Adams:the sensory deprivation tanks before this interview. So I just
Anita Adams:wanted to understand it a little bit better. I understand that it
Anita Adams:was created in the 1950s was created by a physicist, no. So
Anita Adams:what was he he was a neuroscientist and a physician.
Anita Adams:And he was wanting to experiment on or just study the
Anita Adams:consciousness by cutting off all external stimuli. And then in
Anita Adams:the 60s, he got a little controversial with it and he
Anita Adams:started to introduce LSD with his subjects to to to sedate
Anita Adams:them and to create a trance like state. Is it too personal to ask
Anita Adams:if if you use any kind of substance to help bring on an
Anita Adams:experience for yourself or have you have you tried both going in
Anita Adams:without any kind of enhancements or and have you done it with any
Anita Adams:kind of I'll do rug alteration.
Winston Yeung:I have done it, we call it going clean. Oh, you
Winston Yeung:clean? Yeah, well I like actually clean truly means that
Winston Yeung:like No, no alcohol, no caffeine, no sugar, like you're
Winston Yeung:kind of you eat in the morning. And then if you're doing like a
Winston Yeung:late afternoon when you're you don't, you actually don't ingest
Winston Yeung:anything other than water for five hours. So you go in as
Winston Yeung:clean as you can. And then I tried it with like, THC and CBD
Winston Yeung:gummies. And I find that I actually recommend that for
Winston Yeung:people that can't relax, because it just helps you relax, and
Winston Yeung:then you're you're in there. And that's for more of body resets,
Winston Yeung:and you go in there and you relax, and then you let the
Winston Yeung:tension leave your body. And then I have also done work
Winston Yeung:trying to tap trying to do deep work within myself and I have
Winston Yeung:introduced psilocybin, okay, which is the chemical that's
Winston Yeung:found in magic mushrooms. But then what I don't actually take
Winston Yeung:the mushroom, I have found a company that extracts it and
Winston Yeung:puts it, so it's just pure, and it's in chocolate form. So I've
Winston Yeung:combined that. And I am going to put out a severe warning that if
Winston Yeung:it is not recommended at all, if you haven't done the work
Winston Yeung:outside of the tech to deal with your stuff. Okay, we're going
Winston Yeung:in, because the way that I describe it is the mushroom will
Winston Yeung:open doors that you have closed.
Anita Adams:The thing it might not be ready to open the doors,
Anita Adams:if you haven't,
Winston Yeung:which door it's going to open. And then when
Winston Yeung:you're in there, because you are devoid of any grounding. Like if
Winston Yeung:you do it outside or you look at your cat, you look outside the
Winston Yeung:window, you kind of grounded in the space in there. It's just
Winston Yeung:darkness. So and you're and there's no gravity, there's no
Winston Yeung:nothing. So if you have a freakout moment, right? And you
Winston Yeung:open your eyes, you see nothing. So whatever you are seeing, you
Winston Yeung:are completely immersed in it. And I have had, like when I
Winston Yeung:first started doing it, some extremely, extremely intense
Winston Yeung:experiences. And if it wasn't for the work I've done
Winston Yeung:previously, I probably would have ended in a mental word.
Winston Yeung:It's
Anita Adams:really triggered some stuff. It's it's virtual.
Winston Yeung:It's like VR in imagine doing VR, but you
Winston Yeung:actually tap your nervous system into it. So it's Oh, wow. It's
Winston Yeung:absolutely real. Right? When you as I said, you don't get to pick
Winston Yeung:and
Anita Adams:just to be clear, you you wouldn't necessarily
Anita Adams:have that kind of experience. If you you went in completely
Anita Adams:clean.
Winston Yeung:Oh, you go and clean it. You don't have access
Winston Yeung:to that stuff. Okay. Yeah. Like you, like you can do you can
Winston Yeung:access levels of it. Similar to meditation, you open certain
Winston Yeung:access certain spaces, but there is in my experience for the past
Winston Yeung:decade, there are some spaces you cannot access. And no matter
Winston Yeung:how hard you want to get there, you just can't access it. And I
Winston Yeung:have I personally have found that. It's like the locksmith
Winston Yeung:can alter door for you. But you'd be prepared to face
Winston Yeung:whatever good or bad comes out of that. That door and want to
Winston Yeung:put that caveat out.
Anita Adams:I appreciate that. Thank you. I'm so curious. I
Anita Adams:would love to. I would love to try a sensory deprivation tank.
Anita Adams:I've never tried mushrooms. I think I'll start with just doing
Anita Adams:a sensory deprivation tank.
Winston Yeung:I recommend the tank for everyone because we are
Winston Yeung:so distracted and stimulated by the noise in the world. Yes,
Winston Yeung:that when you give your body soul and mind an opportunity to
Winston Yeung:just relax from it. Like some, like people that go to a
Winston Yeung:retreat. They're taking themselves out of the city. They
Winston Yeung:go into a quiet space in nature, they're drinking tea, they're
Winston Yeung:feeding the cells, healthy foods, and you're giving your
Winston Yeung:body a opportunity to reset a little bit. The sensory
Winston Yeung:deprivation tank is exactly that. It's a tool that allows
Winston Yeung:you to reset and then as you get used to it. more used to it. You
Winston Yeung:build your experience. I call it drifting And you're able to go
Winston Yeung:in and then drift off faster and faster and faster. So how you
Winston Yeung:explained 15 minutes of music I could drift off in about a
Winston Yeung:minute. You go there, relaxing beer,
Anita Adams:right? Kind of training yourself in a way to be
Anita Adams:able to take that dive in deep pretty quick. So you said you've
Anita Adams:been doing it for 14 years?
Winston Yeung:I started 14 years ago. Okay.
Anita Adams:You mentioned in a previous conversation we had
Anita Adams:over the phone that you had recently had a profound if had a
Anita Adams:couple, I think profound experiences, do you want to tell
Anita Adams:us a little bit more about that? I remember one involve the dog.
Winston Yeung:So it started when I was doing a lot of trauma
Winston Yeung:work with clients. And then by doing so I also understand if
Winston Yeung:I'm doing the work with the client, I'm also doing work with
Winston Yeung:myself simultaneously, at a different level than they are.
Winston Yeung:So the my curiosity was, what happens if I start using
Winston Yeung:psilocybin in the tank? And what would happen? So I started with
Winston Yeung:a very, very small, low dose. And when I went in there, I've
Winston Yeung:had the life had experiences using the mushroom to take me to
Winston Yeung:state like, traumatic spaces, so I could heal it. And I thought,
Winston Yeung:holy cow, this is nuts, like mind bendingly crazy, how
Winston Yeung:painful that was, well, using a quarter to a sixth of the same
Winston Yeung:dosage in the tank when we're talking like a gram, which is
Winston Yeung:not much. Because it is, you're so hyper focused in there,
Winston Yeung:there's no distraction, there's no music, no nothing. I drifted
Winston Yeung:off to the same trauma space. And it was extremely intense.
Winston Yeung:And then when it came out, the first time I'm going, what I'm
Winston Yeung:looking at, like, what just happened in there. But it made
Winston Yeung:me curious as to how far to the edge of this space, I can go.
Winston Yeung:And I kept going back and going back and going back, and then
Winston Yeung:I'm navigating this spectrum of dark, the dark end of the
Winston Yeung:spectrum was like pain and suffering and just a lot of
Winston Yeung:ugliness over there. And then I shared my experiences with my
Winston Yeung:coach. Am I coach my guide Andra? And she said, you
Winston Yeung:continue to go back there, because that's what you're
Winston Yeung:familiar with. That's where where you're vibing. And if
Winston Yeung:that's where you're vibing, that's where you're going to get
Winston Yeung:pulled over to. So why don't you try? Navigate navigating that
Winston Yeung:space. But never never thought of that. So yeah, if you if
Winston Yeung:your, your default is the vibe in the dark, dark space, you're
Winston Yeung:just going to go there all the time. So, so if you're just like
Winston Yeung:snowboarding's, like if I, if I only know how to turn to my
Winston Yeung:left, then I'm always going to turn to my left. So what happens
Winston Yeung:if I bank over to the right and then start going back and forth
Winston Yeung:over the spectrum? What happens? So I started doing that,
Anita Adams:being a little bit more in control of the
Anita Adams:experience? Is that what you're you were guided to do to
Winston Yeung:I don't like the word control, like choose to use
Winston Yeung:word navigate, okay? Like I have some, some influence, okay. And
Winston Yeung:then, so let's do like surfing or snowboarding or skiing here
Winston Yeung:the water. Then I started moving over, I started feeling the more
Winston Yeung:positive end of the spectrum. And then one day, I drifted over
Winston Yeung:to the positive side and the story is I connected to the
Winston Yeung:consciousness of a dog.
Anita Adams:And now to the consciousness of the dog.
Winston Yeung:Yeah, so it is in my belief that we that, like a
Winston Yeung:radio, there's just infinite number of consciousnesses out
Winston Yeung:there and there, it's just just wait, there's wavelengths there.
Winston Yeung:It's just energy. And like a radio, we are attuned to a
Winston Yeung:certain we are tuned to a certain one and that's who we
Winston Yeung:are. So you have your own energetic signature that makes
Winston Yeung:you an ADA and I have one that makes me Winston. So my thought
Winston Yeung:is, what happens if we have the ability to kind of like, tune up
Winston Yeung:and down a little bit, just a little bit. You have on radio
Winston Yeung:dial, the old school radio and you move it up and down. What,
Winston Yeung:what else is out there? And that's where I've been playing
Winston Yeung:like an AI, not choosing the dog. Like I just kind of tuned
Winston Yeung:up and all of a sudden, I tuned into this frequency and I
Winston Yeung:thought, okay, that's just, I'm making this up. But the
Winston Yeung:experience was so profound, because it wasn't that I
Winston Yeung:imagined that I was a dog. My facial features like I could
Winston Yeung:feel my eyes, my cheeks were sore, because I was smiling late
Winston Yeung:on my mouth, hold back, I can't even mimic it. Like it pulled
Winston Yeung:back. My tone was hanging out. I had a thought of, you know, I
Winston Yeung:had a thought or the neighbor then like, felt like but wiggle.
Winston Yeung:My hands were like this it like all the mannerisms. And I go,
Winston Yeung:this is surreal.
Anita Adams:was Winston part of that consciousness? Where you
Anita Adams:also Winston and tuning into the consciousness of a dog?
Winston Yeung:Yes. So it's kind of like there's me. And then
Winston Yeung:there's this one that kind of like the messenger that Yeah. So
Winston Yeung:that was the very first experience and that was at a
Winston Yeung:certain dosage. And then I went back in a month later, and I
Winston Yeung:increased the dosage. And then And then
Anita Adams:let me ask you, did you go in with a specific
Anita Adams:intention? That next time? No,
Winston Yeung:well, I just wanted, the intention was I
Winston Yeung:wanted to feel the other end of the spectrum. That's not pain
Winston Yeung:and suffering and trauma. Okay. Well, I realized, I drifted over
Winston Yeung:to the beloved space of love and the dog represent represented
Winston Yeung:unconditional love. Yeah, absolutely. And my coach said to
Winston Yeung:me, it's manifesting as the dog, because that's what you're
Winston Yeung:familiar with, because that's what my dog Kismet represents.
Winston Yeung:So you're, it's something that you can relate to. But she also
Winston Yeung:said to me, but don't be fixated on that. Like if the universe
Winston Yeung:gives you a snake or a bird or whatever it is what it is. So,
Winston Yeung:so just focus on what the, the space that you want to navigate
Winston Yeung:in. So I, I went back in a month later, and I became the dog
Winston Yeung:again. And this time, there was less of me. And more of the dog.
Anita Adams:Interesting. Do you know if it's the same
Winston Yeung:dog? It was the same dog? I could, I could pick
Winston Yeung:out it was familiar. Was it your dog? Wasn't my dog? There were
Winston Yeung:some, some conscious of some dog. The second time I knew it
Winston Yeung:was the smaller dog. Okay. Very happy like it. I think it was.
Winston Yeung:Well, I was in that space for probably half an hour or two to
Winston Yeung:an hour. And I kind of played with it. And then I share that
Winston Yeung:experience with a friend My friend Ronnie roll was
Winston Yeung:interfaith minister. And she invited me suppose next time you
Winston Yeung:go in, asked noggins Oh, sorry, this time. She said next time
Winston Yeung:you go in, has what it's like to dream like a dog.
Anita Adams:Are you asking is that just putting that idea out
Anita Adams:to your attention?
Winston Yeung:The intention is the intention is to dream like a
Winston Yeung:dog. I'm like, okay, so I went back in. That's right. And the
Winston Yeung:second time, I became more familiar with it. And then I
Winston Yeung:actually did kind of fall asleep. I can't say that I dream
Winston Yeung:like a dog. But I've never felt so. At peace, if that makes
Winston Yeung:sense. It's like I slept and I've never slept so calmly and
Winston Yeung:wonderfully. I shared that experience with her. And then
Winston Yeung:the third song she said next time you go in ask, What message
Winston Yeung:are you supposed to be learning from the dog? What message is
Winston Yeung:the dog bringing me? That was the intention? And this is where
Winston Yeung:I'm gonna say it's profound. Because, again, I'm not choosing
Winston Yeung:to be going in I'm not choosing to be a dog what I'm just asking
Winston Yeung:what the message is. I became a dog again. And this time it was
Winston Yeung:95% that consciousness 5% Me and it was a level of love that I
Winston Yeung:never felt before like I was being unfolding that remind me I
Winston Yeung:could feel the tactile sensation of me being held at five was, if
Winston Yeung:I was a puppy, you know, if you have a puppy and then you're
Winston Yeung:holding it, cradling it in your arms, I could feel the pressure
Winston Yeung:on my back, I could feel like, as if my hand was like, rubbing
Winston Yeung:the back of my head, even though I'm in the tank. And then again,
Winston Yeung:I fell asleep. But now I'm being held. And then I thought of I
Winston Yeung:had a thought of this being that's holding me and I could
Winston Yeung:feel this, it was most intense pulse of love. Energy is warm.
Winston Yeung:Ball just exploded my heart. I really never felt anything like
Winston Yeung:that before. And so I thought I would think about it that again,
Winston Yeung:it happened again. And it was I describe it a level of love,
Winston Yeung:belonging, acceptance, acknowledgement, all those all
Winston Yeung:those things I've been seeking to fill this table my entire
Winston Yeung:life to feel this from someone external. And all that just came
Winston Yeung:from within, and then I fell asleep. And it was the most
Winston Yeung:unbelievable experience. And then when I shared that with my
Winston Yeung:friend, Ronnie, she said, I told her Yeah, it's like, it's as if
Winston Yeung:it was a small dog. She said, Well, how do you? How do you
Winston Yeung:know that? You're not the dog. Okay, well, that's the more than
Winston Yeung:I must have shrunk down. And she goes, Well, let's just say the
Winston Yeung:Divine is really big. Guys, and the Divine is really big. And
Winston Yeung:then we started going down that tracks so she goes, if so if you
Winston Yeung:are the dog, and you are being cradled by the device, by God,
Winston Yeung:as she put it, how did that feel? And I know it was, I
Winston Yeung:didn't have words to describe it, like the love the amount of
Winston Yeung:the amount of like, I thought I felt love before this was so so
Winston Yeung:beyond that, she goes, Yeah, that's we are part of the
Winston Yeung:Divine, she said, and that's what it's like when we go back.
Winston Yeung:That's that unconditional love and acceptance. And you got to
Winston Yeung:experience
Anita Adams:it. When we go back. What do you think she
Anita Adams:means by that when we go back?
Winston Yeung:She, she shared with me that we all come from
Winston Yeung:the Divine. And we are. And I get to when she said those
Winston Yeung:visions and those experiences of being abandoned and separated.
Winston Yeung:When we come to this life, that's literally what happens we
Winston Yeung:are like, torn away from source put in his body to have this
Winston Yeung:experience. So when we return all those feelings of
Winston Yeung:abandonment and rejection is then dismissal which we made up
Winston Yeung:or let go when you go back and I go, Okay, I'm not saying I
Winston Yeung:believe it. But it makes sense. And I'm very open to the
Winston Yeung:interpretations. It was. This particular one was, to me it was
Winston Yeung:life changing, because a few things that want to share the
Winston Yeung:experience with people there, they're giving me pieces of the
Winston Yeung:puzzle or the riddle to make me understand it. One was, you can
Winston Yeung:only understand that feeling. If only if it already exists within
Winston Yeung:you. Otherwise, you wouldn't know what that felt feels like.
Winston Yeung:So therefore, the only way you understand that feeling
Winston Yeung:uncomfortable being held and love and all that wonder that
Winston Yeung:wonderful moment is if you've already happened before, right?
Winston Yeung:Otherwise, you wouldn't be able to articulate and recognize it
Winston Yeung:would recognize it. Yeah. And to me, that was profound. And we
Winston Yeung:can go to have another conversation about it another
Winston Yeung:time. But then I realized when I did a lot of reflection at this
Winston Yeung:top five months later, as I'm pondering this was I was
Winston Yeung:speaking at an event about childhood. And then I realized
Winston Yeung:that now I understand where that came from. It's when I was being
Winston Yeung:held for my grandparents and the parents. So when I was when
Winston Yeung:you're born, you're held like that, like I also as a baby,
Winston Yeung:where'd it all and you're just being, then everyone just
Winston Yeung:radiating love on you, no one meet. And then I go, okay, that
Winston Yeung:that would make sense of where I've worked right? I've felt
Winston Yeung:that before.
Anita Adams:What I was hearing with Ronnie was at Ronnie
Anita Adams:Ronnie. Yeah. My interpretation of what I was hearing is that we
Anita Adams:were, we would, we've experienced that in soul form
Anita Adams:from the Divine, and that we are remembering that experience in
Anita Adams:connection to the divine.
Winston Yeung:Yes, which is another way she put it is
Winston Yeung:imagine if we're a drop of water, that drop of water is
Winston Yeung:what's inside of us. And that water kind of pulls the drop of
Winston Yeung:water out, and he put it inside his body and the body does what
Winston Yeung:it wants. Eventually, the body is formed will disintegrate, and
Winston Yeung:that drop of water will turn back to the pool that it came
Winston Yeung:from. and be one with with everything.
Anita Adams:Yeah, beautiful. There's a I'm struggling to
Anita Adams:remember is a beautiful Rumi quote. That's something along
Anita Adams:that that you are not you're you are not just the drop of water,
Anita Adams:you are the entire ocean of that. That drop of water, he
Anita Adams:obviously isn't much better. I'll dig out that quote. But
Anita Adams:it's a it's a beautiful one.
Winston Yeung:But what drew me to want to share this with your
Winston Yeung:listeners wasn't. It wasn't this particular part of the
Winston Yeung:experience. It was what happened two months ago when I went in.
Winston Yeung:And again, I went in with intention. And this time I
Winston Yeung:asked, I want to experience more connection, even to become the
Winston Yeung:dog again, because I had I after the third experience, I've had
Winston Yeung:different ones. So I kind of missed the dogs. So I went in
Winston Yeung:and I kind of lifted it out. And I felt the dog presence and then
Winston Yeung:it faded away. And then I felt something else it faded away.
Winston Yeung:And then I fell asleep in the tank. And then when I woke up,
Winston Yeung:it was what I connected with. Now bear with me as I described
Winston Yeung:this, when I open my eyes in the darkness. I'm seeing I'm seeing
Winston Yeung:inside that tank. So I'm whatever I'm seeing is through
Winston Yeung:is whatever that consciousness is you like it was this thought
Winston Yeung:that okay, everyone that I've every one that I met all the
Winston Yeung:experiences that I've had, good bad, the ugly, all of it
Winston Yeung:actually never happened. In fact, it's all of a grand
Winston Yeung:delusion. And I'm waking up from this dream. But there's no one
Winston Yeung:else here. It's just me, like you're the only living thing in
Winston Yeung:the space. And no matter how much the distraction The reality
Winston Yeung:is, you're completely alone. And me trying to even process that
Winston Yeung:at that moment, I could feel my mind just be like torn apart
Winston Yeung:like I will This is mental. And then I was provided to other
Winston Yeung:versions of I call it disconnection. The second one
Winston Yeung:was being floating through space and their little spaceship, they
Winston Yeung:can regenerate. They have the they have the technology to
Winston Yeung:regenerate themselves. So I think technically live forever.
Winston Yeung:They don't they can choose not to but they are lost in the void
Winston Yeung:of space seeking. Seeking anything that's alive. There get
Winston Yeung:fooled through the void Lost in Space completely alone.
Anita Adams:So hold on to that was you imagining yourself being
Anita Adams:lost in space?
Winston Yeung:No, I was locked into I was locked into some
Winston Yeung:another three different consciousnesses three different
Winston Yeung:experiences.
Anita Adams:Okay, not at the same time different different
Anita Adams:times that you've gone into the tank this these are different
Anita Adams:things that you've experienced
Winston Yeung:one after the other two months ago, okay. Same
Winston Yeung:session
Anita Adams:in the same session. Okay, that's okay.
Anita Adams:Okay. And was it What's your interpretation of that? Were you
Anita Adams:being shown different realities?
Winston Yeung:It's a It's the way I would describe it as your
Winston Yeung:sister would would use you as as an example. So there's that need
Winston Yeung:to consciousness and then I was able to tune into it and then
Winston Yeung:latch on to it. And then now I am experiencing a moment of you.
Winston Yeung:I'm experiencing your life as if I was used. I'm looking through
Winston Yeung:your eyeballs I am. My nervous system is attached to your
Winston Yeung:nervous system. I feel I'm feeling what you're feeling.
Winston Yeung:Even though I'm so it's just overlapping, right? So all of
Winston Yeung:this stuff that I'm experiencing, they're not my
Winston Yeung:memories.
Anita Adams:Right? Up to you. You are latching on to three
Anita Adams:different consciousness. Yes. Okay, interesting.
Winston Yeung:And then what I'm experiencing. And this is
Winston Yeung:another note to your listeners, be careful what you wish for.
Winston Yeung:From the universe, especially when it's vague, like, oh, I
Winston Yeung:want to experience more connection. It was the idea of,
Winston Yeung:okay, if want experience more connection, how about I give me
Winston Yeung:some contrast. You probably won't appreciate what connection
Winston Yeung:is until I show you what pure disconnection is. Yeah, which is
Winston Yeung:isolation.
Laban Ditchburn:Now, as I
Winston Yeung:what I got out of the tank, I was standing in the
Winston Yeung:shower, and all I could say, for about 2030 minutes was holy
Winston Yeung:hands him I was like, holy, wow. was by far the most intense
Winston Yeung:experience I've ever had. But the idea of being utterly alone.
Winston Yeung:Like, even here,
Anita Adams:sorry to interrupt you. Um, so is that that's what
Anita Adams:that feeling in space was that you're utterly alone in space?
Anita Adams:Am I following that thread? Okay.
Winston Yeung:Yeah, got it. So the three was one was, you're
Winston Yeung:waking up, you're awake? Yeah, people are watching the matrix,
Winston Yeung:you know, you wake up in your pod. You know, in the movie,
Winston Yeung:there's billions of other people in pods. But imagine waking up
Winston Yeung:in your pod, you look around, and there's actually nothing
Winston Yeung:there. And it's just technology that's distracting you from the
Winston Yeung:reality that you're alone. Episode Two, with wood was, was
Winston Yeung:this being floating around Lost in Space, just in the void,
Winston Yeung:completely lost. I don't know how long they were out there.
Winston Yeung:And the third version was your fear the only living thing on
Winston Yeung:this wooden being on this planet. Oh, and you and you're
Winston Yeung:looking, looking out into space wishing that you can go home.
Winston Yeung:But there's no way off. And this desire and this longing to go
Winston Yeung:home, that was something that I felt before this longing to go
Winston Yeung:home that I don't, I'm not from here, I want to go home. And
Winston Yeung:Ronnie explains that longing is to get going you want to go back
Winston Yeung:to source? Yeah. And on all three of these experiences was
Winston Yeung:to dish just show me the other other extreme right? You get
Winston Yeung:that? And my point earlier was even if we feel that we're
Winston Yeung:believe that we're alone here in the back of our minds, we
Winston Yeung:understand that there's a billion people on this planet
Winston Yeung:what happens if they're if you're completely isolated? And
Winston Yeung:that was something an experience that I never could comprehend
Winston Yeung:until I was given it and it was psychologically painful
Anita Adams:so so what do you take away from all of that
Laban Ditchburn:ah, first thing I took away was an men then I'm
Laban Ditchburn:going to give myself a little bit of credit for for
Laban Ditchburn:understanding this
Winston Yeung:this either happened or is happening right
Winston Yeung:now. We don't know what we don't know there's there's some being
Winston Yeung:floating completely lost in space alone out there somewhere.
Winston Yeung:It's happening right now. Hmm, that's dark thought. It is. But
Winston Yeung:it's not an impossibility, but the compassion that I hold for
Winston Yeung:that being be like, I'm going mad. It's like Yeah, it sucks to
Winston Yeung:be you. But I, I understand. And then the other takeaway was
Winston Yeung:looking at the experience It's for and I was thankful for it as
Winston Yeung:traumatic as psychologically traumatic as it was for me. It
Winston Yeung:really shifted my perception of connection and how universal of
Winston Yeung:a need it is. And we that's what makes us what we are. We are
Winston Yeung:we're just we're born to be for connection. And when we're
Winston Yeung:disconnected
Winston Yeung:I can't find the words for it. Yeah. Yeah, that the soul the
Winston Yeung:soul is in pain if you can't connect with them to another to
Winston Yeung:another soul.
Anita Adams:And there's right now in the world, there's,
Anita Adams:there's lots of disconnection, it's not at the level you
Anita Adams:experienced. So maybe that's there's a little a little hope
Anita Adams:there in the sense that when you really when you really no
Anita Adams:disconnection, which sounds like you experienced that in a very,
Anita Adams:very profound way. Does it give you hope to create more
Anita Adams:connection and and the realization that it's in your
Anita Adams:power to create more connection here today? Now in this space we
Anita Adams:are in?
Winston Yeung:Yes, yes. When I shared my thoughts with Ronnie,
Winston Yeung:she believes you have an idea of what someone has to experience
Winston Yeung:an order to commit suicide. I didn't understand she goes well,
Winston Yeung:in order to actually go through with the act. She says you have
Winston Yeung:to get that disconnect from everything that you know,
Winston Yeung:everything that everyone that you know, like, spiritually,
Winston Yeung:emotionally detach from all of that to be so utterly alone in
Winston Yeung:order to, to feel that the only way to be free of this is to be
Winston Yeung:completely disconnected. And when I had the process that was
Winston Yeung:words, it made me she asked me and I'll share with your
Winston Yeung:listeners. Have you ever had thoughts of suicide? I have she
Winston Yeung:asked why didn't you go through it? But I couldn't find the
Winston Yeung:words to explain. That's when she shared you it's because you
Winston Yeung:weren't able to disconnect from everything that you are. But now
Winston Yeung:you understand the level of madness the level of pain of not
Winston Yeung:being connected anything and then when I replayed my
Winston Yeung:experience that I go Yeah, I I can see I can understand when
Winston Yeung:you're that level of isolation how painful it is and in a
Winston Yeung:really lit me up to continue doing the work for me to help
Winston Yeung:people
Anita Adams:Yeah, that's standing up for me too. I feel
Anita Adams:like it's a you were given this experience. So, you can go
Anita Adams:deeper with your work in helping helping others you know, like
Anita Adams:with your your voice store story initiative. As we said at the
Anita Adams:beginning, it was designed to tackle the the issues of social
Anita Adams:isolation that is prevalent in in society today. And now you
Anita Adams:you understand that isolation at a much deeper level thanks to
Anita Adams:the the the tank experience isolation tank or sensory
Anita Adams:deprivation tank. You can work with people at a at a deeper
Anita Adams:understanding.
Winston Yeung:Yes, so I will never say that I truly
Winston Yeung:understand what they're going through. But I am familiar with
Winston Yeung:the space that they are in and When I work with people, and I
Winston Yeung:can say that energetically they understand that it is true,
Winston Yeung:because as I say, Yeah, I understand the space that you're
Winston Yeung:in. They could feel it. Because she's been there. No, I'm not. I
Winston Yeung:will never say I understand your pain. You don't? Yeah. But I
Winston Yeung:understand the space and then they go, okay. And then when
Winston Yeung:that trust is there, I go here, hold my hand. We, we can go
Winston Yeung:anywhere where you want, you're not alone anymore. Oh, I'll be
Winston Yeung:here to help guide you. And then once a step is taken in any
Winston Yeung:direction, we can move on from the space. And that's part of
Winston Yeung:it. Universe, were giving you that experience. Yeah. But it
Winston Yeung:was. And I was called to share this. I don't, I can. Don't
Winston Yeung:remember why. But it was just people that you're listening and
Winston Yeung:you're working with might find value benefit insight from it.
Winston Yeung:And then today, talk dog mean the same? Yeah, it's like it.
Winston Yeung:When people say, Well, here's connection, you never wanted a
Winston Yeung:dog. I was. I was in a lot of pain a few years ago, and then
Winston Yeung:dog manifests itself in my life. And she chose. I flat out admit,
Winston Yeung:I didn't pick the dog. I see that. So people understand. She
Winston Yeung:picked me and there's a photo was a photograph I have that
Winston Yeung:I'll share with you that my sister captured and all the
Winston Yeung:other dogs are like looking around and then Kismet just
Winston Yeung:looking at me. She chose me.
Anita Adams:That's neat. I've heard that before from other
Anita Adams:people that have gotten pets chosen by their their animal.
Winston Yeung:And from that there was through the dog
Winston Yeung:experience, like I shared with Ronnie and she goes you probably
Winston Yeung:have a totally different relationship with your dog bale.
Winston Yeung:I'm like, yeah. We have that dopey look on her face. I
Winston Yeung:actually have a really good idea of what she's thinking or when
Winston Yeung:she feels like going nuts. I
Anita Adams:go. My butt like that, too. Yeah, I know
Winston Yeung:what that feels like. So when I meet with her
Winston Yeung:didn't gauge that we have is totally different level. I know
Winston Yeung:I kind of know what it's like to be bouncing around just totally
Winston Yeung:bonkers and excited. And when she's like running around and
Winston Yeung:zooming around, it's like, I get I get it. Or when she wants to
Winston Yeung:play ball or whatever. It's like I do I have a much different
Winston Yeung:relationship with her now that I've had that dog experience
Winston Yeung:because I've been gifted a dog's perspective on life.
Anita Adams:That's really neat. I want to have that experience.
Anita Adams:Winston, I think that sounds just sounds absolutely
Anita Adams:delightful in the pure innocence of that so interesting. You had
Anita Adams:quite very, very vastly different experiences in the
Anita Adams:tank, you know from the that dog pure love. Unconditional Love
Anita Adams:experience to that full on isolation
Winston Yeung:would be pure connection to pure
Winston Yeung:disconnection. Yeah, I learned your listeners won't know this.
Winston Yeung:But I in my life, I have learned through contrast, the lessons
Winston Yeung:that are provided to me, you know, you have your lessons The
Winston Yeung:universe provides you I have my mind. I've always been in
Winston Yeung:contrast, in extremes, and then I find my way to the middle,
Winston Yeung:where you can't
Anita Adams:really appreciate the light until you experience
Anita Adams:the dark to write.
Winston Yeung:Yes, and this time, I've always experienced
Winston Yeung:the dark. And then the light. This was the other way around
Winston Yeung:where I was given the dog experience first and then the
Winston Yeung:other side. And I thought that was I prefer that.
Anita Adams:Yeah, for sure. And that and I would say that was
Anita Adams:divinely intentional.
Winston Yeung:Yeah. Yeah, there is a I truly believe that. What
Winston Yeung:I've experienced is anyone can also attain there's nothing
Winston Yeung:special about about me I was just open and curious to see
Winston Yeung:What could happen?
Anita Adams:I think we just want to presence opening,
Anita Adams:curious, I think that those are really key words. And those are
Anita Adams:words we should embrace through everything in life, you know,
Anita Adams:being curious, is, is so important with, you know, our,
Anita Adams:our pain, why was like going deep and asking why is, am I
Anita Adams:experiencing this? And being curious about all the good
Anita Adams:things that are happening in our life to like, just get really
Anita Adams:curious with, with your experiences and trying to
Anita Adams:understand who you are and who you're choosing to be?
Winston Yeung:I would reframe that just a little bit. Okay.
Winston Yeung:And when I hear understand, it always brings up visions of
Winston Yeung:thinking, headspace. So curiosity. For me, I teach
Winston Yeung:curiosity comes from heart space. So to experience life,
Winston Yeung:through the lens of curiosity, and even even though it sucks
Winston Yeung:and people like why did this happen to me? Instead of
Winston Yeung:processing that through your mind? To say, why or why did
Winston Yeung:this happen? Then you process through your heart, and then
Winston Yeung:instead of being judgmental in yourself, or critical say, what
Winston Yeung:happened? Knocking on my dog you don't get without, you can't get
Winston Yeung:mad the dog, the dog, the dog, dog being a dog, the molecule
Winston Yeung:right there. But it already happened. And to go look at
Winston Yeung:these experiences through empathy and compassion, and
Winston Yeung:through your heart and through curiosity, when you you fire
Winston Yeung:through those frames, everything looks completely different. as
Winston Yeung:ugly as it is, you can you go through your heart, you
Winston Yeung:understand it through your heart, and then fire that
Winston Yeung:understanding of your mind is like, okay, I get it. But going
Winston Yeung:the other way around. There's the I find the the dissemination
Winston Yeung:is different when you go from brain to heart versus from
Winston Yeung:heartbreak.
Anita Adams:Absolutely. I agree with you, Winston, that's yeah,
Anita Adams:so
Winston Yeung:going through experiences and, you know, when
Winston Yeung:you when you've learned and changing the awareness to just
Winston Yeung:be just to be aware of little tiny nudges where you're walking
Winston Yeung:down to smell. When it comes to media, you walk, you walk by and
Winston Yeung:you smell fresh croissants or fresh bread being paid. And you
Winston Yeung:crack a smile. Take a breath and say, You know what? I'm gonna
Winston Yeung:go, I'm gonna go get one versus just brushing it off. Like, is
Winston Yeung:it? Is it going to ruin your day for not getting one? But would
Winston Yeung:it enhance your day? And your experience? If you did get one
Winston Yeung:you don't have to eat doesn't have one. But if you got one
Winston Yeung:here, I can see my senior or anyone just sitting there
Winston Yeung:smiling. You're You're brave. But those little nudges, the
Winston Yeung:little faint whispers Yeah. And you follow that? And then as you
Winston Yeung:do as I did the work, those nudges became they actually
Winston Yeung:become loud and clear.
Anita Adams:Yeah. When you start listening to them, they
Anita Adams:get louder. Yeah. And they almost become
Winston Yeung:suggestions before that even happens, where
Winston Yeung:you get to the point. So you know, you should really go.
Winston Yeung:Well, for me, the words are saying we should we should go do
Winston Yeung:this. I'm like, Yeah, we should go do that. Yeah, that was
Winston Yeung:freakin amazing. So instead of being it's been, it's if you
Winston Yeung:have the visual one. So the croissant one is you walk by the
Winston Yeung:bakery. And then you have the smell. So imagine being able to
Winston Yeung:do enough work that you rewind it to a point where you make the
Winston Yeung:decision to go get it, then you smell it, then you get it. So
Winston Yeung:it's like you're, you're now as you would put it in control that
Winston Yeung:you chose to do this versus just
Anita Adams:reacting to it. Yeah. Making choices. Are you
Anita Adams:going to continue with your exploration in the sensory
Anita Adams:deprivation tanks?
Winston Yeung:Yeah. Can't help it. Yeah, you're addicted. I'm
Winston Yeung:addicted to understanding. Okay, this is my experience I have I
Winston Yeung:have ventured off to certain limits. I want to find out
Winston Yeung:what's beyond that limit. Like, yeah, this is what I see is the
Winston Yeung:limit though. There's, there's more more out there. What else?
Winston Yeung:What else is out there on the spectrum of emotion that we that
Winston Yeung:we have? Is there something on the farther and even farther end
Winston Yeung:of of the positive spectrum that I don't even I haven't unlocked
Winston Yeung:yet. Is there something and I'm also open to even feeling
Winston Yeung:something on the extreme negative end? Because my
Winston Yeung:understanding is if I unlock one end, the other end automatically
Winston Yeung:gets unlocked. Yeah. And it's, I've experienced some pretty
Winston Yeung:cool things.
Anita Adams:Yeah. And once you start that journey, you can't
Anita Adams:really stop, can you because you realize, Wow, there's so much
Anita Adams:more to learn and experience and my, my understanding of the
Anita Adams:world has been here and you know, this little bubble and now
Anita Adams:my understanding is bigger. And if you continue to explore how
Anita Adams:big can it continue to expand? And I think it's, it can expand
Anita Adams:infinitely. I share
Winston Yeung:that I share my dog experiences some people need
Winston Yeung:Are you sure you didn't hallucinate that? I'm sure.
Winston Yeung:Maybe oh, maybe. But it goes if I did. Weird, it all that detail
Winston Yeung:come from? Hmm. Because it's not like I could, okay, there's, I
Winston Yeung:could, I can imagine dreaming as a dog about the neighbor. Okay,
Winston Yeung:I can imagine that. But the emotional sensations of all that
Winston Yeung:I go, I can't make up. I can't make that up. It's, and these
Winston Yeung:aren't my, I'm not gonna say these aren't my memories. There.
Winston Yeung:But there's, they're out there. And I asked writing, it's like,
Winston Yeung:yeah, I can't figure out if these these experiences are
Winston Yeung:coming down into me, or coming up from me, like past life type
Winston Yeung:thing. She goes, Why can't they be both happening at the same
Winston Yeung:time?
Anita Adams:Have that answer? It's not one or the other. It's
Anita Adams:not one or the other. It's and
Winston Yeung:purchases made around this. So you're just
Winston Yeung:floating. You're just you're just, you're just gliding up and
Winston Yeung:down. Right? Deal?
Anita Adams:Yeah. Interesting. Have you have you spoken to many
Anita Adams:other people who've done have had experiences in the tank? And
Anita Adams:have they been vastly different? Are there some common threads?
Winston Yeung:Many people that I understand most people aren't
Winston Yeung:doing it for what I'm doing. They're doing it for for
Winston Yeung:relaxation, and to call for calming purposes. I'm doing it
Winston Yeung:for the dive. Real real deep into consciousness. Yeah. The
Winston Yeung:people that do go often for you have to do like bodywork. Yep,
Winston Yeung:the there's huge benefits and it changes your it calms you down,
Winston Yeung:it changes your brainwave activity makes you more
Winston Yeung:creative. It does unlock other parts of you, because now you're
Winston Yeung:not distracted by stuff. And you know how meditation calms you
Winston Yeung:down? Well, this, this would be meditation, if you meditate.
Winston Yeung:Yeah, it's a it's a whole new level.
Anita Adams:Yeah, yeah, some of the research I did I guess in
Anita Adams:the 70s they started to really take this seriously and study
Anita Adams:the benefits and the benefits of these tanks are numerous, you
Anita Adams:know, from improved cardio, cardiovascular, circulatory
Anita Adams:issues, and you're better sleep and better. muscle movement
Anita Adams:athletes are using this for improved performance. It's just
Anita Adams:like they have the list of reasons to get into a tank are
Anita Adams:quite endless. So it's kind of cool. And when I'm with you, I
Anita Adams:would want to experience it from a spiritual perspective and see
Anita Adams:how deep I can go at the conscious level and and tap into
Anita Adams:something you know a little.
Winston Yeung:So it's not like I haven't experienced
Winston Yeung:profoundness going and clean. That's how I started. When and
Winston Yeung:at first it was to go, just relax. And I've had I've had
Winston Yeung:muscle groups because I'm so relaxed muscle groups fire and
Winston Yeung:then when you come back out, like all that tension that was
Winston Yeung:in my neck, or my leg was gone. And then I started doing nice, I
Winston Yeung:described like almost like meditative work to see how
Winston Yeung:introspective I can get how deep I can go and start accessing
Winston Yeung:spaces that I couldn't have otherwise and started doing
Winston Yeung:healing work that way, which eventually has led me to where
Winston Yeung:it is now. But once you once I got the taste of it of the power
Winston Yeung:of what it can do it it's hard to ignore it because it almost
Winston Yeung:accelerates it. My some people I've introduced it to for trauma
Winston Yeung:work on these are experienced practitioners and Coaches and
Winston Yeung:healers themselves, they go bad slake for themselves. I've
Winston Yeung:accessed and done some healing that I would say, outside of
Winston Yeung:this will take years. And there it took me like weeks.
Anita Adams:And she's saying, Wow, really cool. And I read
Anita Adams:that the prices can range between 50 to $100. For an hour,
Anita Adams:does that sound about right with your experience? Or is it might
Anita Adams:have been an old thing
Winston Yeung:that depends on where you're at? I'll give a
Winston Yeung:shout out to the float house that is in Vancouver. That's
Winston Yeung:where I go to. And I have a membership there. And it's $40
Winston Yeung:for 75 minutes. Oh, okay. Not so I don't I double up on it. So I
Winston Yeung:do like a two sessions back to back. So I get the time in the
Winston Yeung:middle. So the hours were he ad dollars for three hours.
Anita Adams:So Wow. Okay. And is that like, because you have a
Anita Adams:membership? And it's more affordable? If you have a
Anita Adams:membership? Or is that? Yeah,
Winston Yeung:it's offered, it's not, you can go in and sign
Winston Yeung:up for for membership, then Same. Same rates,
Anita Adams:I think I'm gonna have to give this a try. It's
Anita Adams:I'm really intrigued, I'm really, really intrigued and,
Anita Adams:and I'll go clean.
Winston Yeung:Everyone, everyone started, go in. And
Winston Yeung:then when you understand how to relax, the steps would be go in.
Winston Yeung:And first you have to understand how to relax as I know how to
Winston Yeung:relax as that sounds. And then when you're there, the next
Winston Yeung:stage is learning how to start slowing down your thoughts. And
Winston Yeung:then the next stage after that is learning how just I called
Winston Yeung:drifting, where I don't I don't know. But you I hear this light
Winston Yeung:rain all the time. So when I'm in there, I just focus on the
Winston Yeung:ringing and I just let all thoughts drift away. And I drift
Winston Yeung:that you just it's like going, it's like going to sleep but
Winston Yeung:you're not asleep. You can call it lucid dreaming, you call it
Winston Yeung:whatever you want. But yeah, I drift off. And then the music
Winston Yeung:comes back and a break and it brings me back. So those are the
Winston Yeung:those are the levels. And when you can get to the point of
Winston Yeung:consistently drifting. That's when you pretty cool things can
Winston Yeung:be experienced. Very neat.
Anita Adams:And my sense is that that may not happen for the
Anita Adams:first couple times, especially if you're having a hard time
Anita Adams:relaxing.
Winston Yeung:Yeah. So it's not going to happen. It's not like
Winston Yeung:you're gonna go in, you hear what I said, you're gonna go in
Winston Yeung:there even feel magic. It's gonna be very disorienting,
Winston Yeung:because you're going from a world of noise into a world
Winston Yeung:where there's
Anita Adams:no noise. Yeah.
Winston Yeung:And some people don't like it. I've had friends,
Winston Yeung:that experience that they go into the last 20 minutes. They
Winston Yeung:couldn't, couldn't deal with it. It's a practice like anything
Winston Yeung:else.
Anita Adams:Yeah, really interesting. I want to wrap the
Anita Adams:show up. I kind of made this is a leading question. We talked
Anita Adams:about connection, the importance of connection. And so this show
Anita Adams:the joyful journey. podcast is all about learning how to access
Anita Adams:your your highest self, and the ultimate goal is to heighten the
Anita Adams:collective consciousness to move us to a kinder, more
Anita Adams:compassionate world. Is there one thing you think we can do as
Anita Adams:individuals to harmonize humanity?
Winston Yeung:Yes, yes. What came to mind right away is I'm
Winston Yeung:going to express it backwards. Next time, you are in discussion
Winston Yeung:or debate with someone and you don't agree with what he or she
Winston Yeung:said, Instead of judging them for it. Look at the situation
Winston Yeung:and say, I would really like I don't understand. I would really
Winston Yeung:like to hear from you and understand where you're coming
Winston Yeung:from so I can understand your position. Because and then take
Winston Yeung:your take, like if I'm asking I take my position, put it aside
Winston Yeung:because okay, if I say it's right and you say it's wrong,
Winston Yeung:then I go, Oh, no, you're wrong. You have that discussion. That's
Winston Yeung:disconnection because you're not fighting each other versus
Winston Yeung:saying, I, I might not understand where you're coming
Winston Yeung:from. Because I don't have your life experience. Something might
Winston Yeung:have caused you to believe me or to hold this position. I'm
Winston Yeung:curious and I would love for you to engage in conversation so I
Winston Yeung:can understand. And once I have that understanding, it's like
Winston Yeung:Oh, that makes total sense. And I'll use I love tea coffee
Winston Yeung:drinkers suck and coffee is great. Tea sucks. Well, that's
Winston Yeung:because the first time I'd had coffee, it was completely black
Winston Yeung:and over brewed that's why I don't like it and you try tea
Winston Yeung:and it was bitter and didn't taste like anything. Now it
Winston Yeung:makes sense versus just saying I am right or wrong. It's to open
Winston Yeung:open the channel to have the conversation for better
Winston Yeung:understanding. The the, the end result of that is if you look at
Winston Yeung:every interaction through the lens of compassion, empathy,
Winston Yeung:curiosity, and wanting to understand the other person then
Winston Yeung:any any of that negativity just gets shelved, right. It's really
Winston Yeung:hard to get mad at and upset at someone if you're trying to
Winston Yeung:understand and be curious about them. Those two things don't
Winston Yeung:work. So the more if more people could experience the world like
Winston Yeung:a dog does. The world would be a better place because the dog
Winston Yeung:always wants to make friends smells, smells of flowers
Winston Yeung:everywhere they go. Everything's everything was a good time.
Winston Yeung:World was great. And yeah, they just love everything. It's like
Winston Yeung:if every everyone can expect can live their life. We a dog does.
Winston Yeung:A much better place. Oh, I
Anita Adams:love it connecting to your inner dog. That's
Anita Adams:awesome. Thank you so much Winston for spending some time
Anita Adams:with me investing time with me today. I really enjoy. I always
Anita Adams:enjoy our conversations. You've had some interesting,
Anita Adams:fascinating experiences. And I love your your sense of wonder
Anita Adams:and curiosity and openness to experience what the universe
Anita Adams:presents to you. And I'm grateful that you're open to
Anita Adams:sharing that with me and to our listeners on the joyful journey
Anita Adams:podcast. So again, thank you. Thank you. Thank you so much.
Anita Adams:And Joe for journeyers I hope you enjoyed our show today.
Anita Adams:We'll leave Winston's contact details in the show notes. And
Anita Adams:yeah, I know Winston welcomes conversations and engagement.
Anita Adams:Please reach out to him if you if you want to connect. And with
Anita Adams:that, have an awesome day. We'll catch you next time. Thank you
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