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Heather Hanson is an intuitive, healer, Magical Mentor, creativity junkie, and creator/owner of the Creative Sage Cottage, a healing destination in Union Pier, Michigan. Heather shares with us how she didn’t come from a fairytale background or grow up with affirming messages and for many years, wore masks of her survival self until she hit a very difficult time in 2017. Following this period of darkness, she emerged stronger than ever, with more commitment to share her gifts, talents and healing abilities with the world. Heather’s work includes serving you as a “Magical Mentor”, tarot card reader, Hebrew Aleph-bes expert, and leader of workshops, amongst many other things! Heather supports humans in untangling what has held them back and illuminates light on the shadows to create new possibilities in their lives. Heather continuously asks playful questions and comes to this life with a “Why not?” attitude! She is incredibly inspiring and her energy is contagious! Listen in and let me know what you love! Um, everything!
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I’m Heather Hanson, and The Creative Sage Cottage is my magical Queendom. The Cottage is one part store and one part Magical Mentoring space. A few of my favorite and most consistent hats to wear are that of an intuitive, Magical Mentor, mixed media artist, spiritual interpreter, Magi-crafting facilitator, creativity junkie, writer, teacher, student, wife and mother to Sammy our “Pitador” Rescue pooch. For the last 25 years or so I have extensively studied and taken more classes than I can count in Theology, Religion, Alternative Healing, Jewish Mysticism, Kabbalah, herbalism, psychology, crystal therapy, Tarot as it relates to healing and the Hebrew Alef-bes, Astrology and energy healing. I am an intuitive since long before I took my first breath. I am also a perpetual student and teacher of life and spirituality. Heather founded Creative Sage Cottage, and finally at age 53, I am living from a place of authenticity and truth. During all that darkness I found my way into a deeper relationships with a few old loves; Tarot, the Hebrew Alef-Bes, Jewish mysticism and several other tools that I had always relied on to help me feel closer to God. As I was allowing myself to heal and slowly putting myself and my marriage back together, I fell very intentionally down a deep and magical rabbit hole where I wound up meeting my most authentic self…she was way down there at rock bottom. And that is how my ascent began…I ripped off every band-aid, took off every mask, fought like hell to silence every internal nay-sayer and for the first time in my life, I invited my truest self to rise up out of the ashes. I leaned in whole-heartedly and decided it was time to honor my SELF by using the burdens I had carried as a sort of spiritual healing elixir for others. This is the path of the wounded healer; and it is why my company; Creative Sage Cottage was born. I have an intimate relationship with the darkest night of the soul and it has lead me to know that my souls greatest calling is to remind you of your divine origin, to introduce you to your soul again. I now rely on my intuition in partnership with our Creator to assist you on your journey back to your most authentic self. I am a work in progress holding space for healing and the cultivation of divine memory and magic.
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Welcome back to mystical sisterhood. Today's
Maureen Spielman:guest is Heather Hansen head there is an intuitive healer, a
Maureen Spielman:magical mentor, a creativity junkie and creator owner of the
Maureen Spielman:creative sage cottage, a healing destination in Union pier
Maureen Spielman:Michigan. Today, Heather shares with us how she may not have
Maureen Spielman:come from a fairy tale background or grow up with
Maureen Spielman:affirming messages, and for many years wore masks of her survival
Maureen Spielman:self until she hit her own rock bottom, just a few years back,
Maureen Spielman:and how she cultivated that period of darkness to look
Maureen Spielman:within and see where pieces of her needed to be tended to from
Maureen Spielman:her childhood, and she emerged stronger than ever. Heather
Maureen Spielman:truly is a magical mentor. And you're not gonna want to miss
Maureen Spielman:this episode. It's filled with so much magic and so much beauty
Maureen Spielman:that I can't wait for you to listen. So here we go. Hey
Maureen Spielman:there, welcome to mystical sisterhood. This is your host,
Maureen Spielman:Maureen Spielman. I started the show to highlight the
Maureen Spielman:intuitives, healers and other courageous women that I've met
Maureen Spielman:along my journey and continue to meet. Through amazing
Maureen Spielman:interviews, I seek to ask insightful questions to uncover
Maureen Spielman:ways in which you the listener can apply the wisdom and
Maureen Spielman:knowledge to your own life. I believe that we're all in this
Maureen Spielman:together. So sharing healing and joy, and bringing community
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Maureen Spielman:in the episode. Welcome back to mystical sisterhood podcast.
Maureen Spielman:This is Maureen and I'm here today with Heather Hansen. I did
Maureen Spielman:a longer bio for Heather in the intro. But Heather, I was so
Maureen Spielman:greatly honored to meet probably about a year and a half ago at
Maureen Spielman:her creative sage cottage in new buffalo or Michigan that might
Maureen Spielman:be union pier, actually. But just this beautiful, energetic
Maureen Spielman:space feel filled with healing arts, and also attend a workshop
Maureen Spielman:at your farmhouse which was such a beautiful event for me and
Maureen Spielman:experience. And I guess the way that I'm going to introduce you,
Maureen Spielman:Heather, is that you are an intuitive a healer I just told
Maureen Spielman:you, I consider you to be a mystic other kinds of monikers
Maureen Spielman:that you have gone by our magical mentor, mixed media
Maureen Spielman:artist, spiritual interpreter, creativity junkie, writer,
Maureen Spielman:teacher, student, wife, and mother to your rescue pooch. And
Maureen Spielman:I know our conversation today will probably span a lot of
Maureen Spielman:different areas that you sort of specialize in. And we had a
Maureen Spielman:conversation preparing ourselves for today. And in it, I was
Maureen Spielman:really struck by what you called the unseen worlds and your
Maureen Spielman:fascination with unseen worlds. And this idea of what if all
Maureen Spielman:these things in front of us the nature the flowers, the plants,
Maureen Spielman:these tools we have like the taro or the Hebrew alphabet.
Maureen Spielman:What if they were these magical just tools waiting for us to use
Maureen Spielman:them? They were they they've been part of our cultures for
Maureen Spielman:centuries. And and just the discovery of these tools is like
Maureen Spielman:wow, these these aren't just made up things that some people
Maureen Spielman:can access and some people don't have access to. So that was
Maureen Spielman:really striking to me. And then I'm just gonna say a quote that
Maureen Spielman:you said yesterday, that I think is really important. And that
Maureen Spielman:was, we all want to know we are holy, and how are we going to
Maureen Spielman:support one another? In knowing this? Amen. Right? Yeah. So with
Maureen Spielman:those, I'll just start, you know, whatever struck you with
Maureen Spielman:what I just said, or wherever you want to start about
Maureen Spielman:yourself. I welcome it.
Heather Hanson:Oh my goodness. Well, first of all, I'm so
Heather Hanson:beyond honored and thrilled and humbled to be a part of this
Heather Hanson:because I feel like what you're doing is opening a container for
Heather Hanson:people to be able to hear in whatever needs to come through
Heather Hanson:this sacred thing that we call life and all these different
Heather Hanson:moving parts. You give us a space where we can listen and we
Heather Hanson:can listen without can tendency without judgment, we can share
Heather Hanson:our experiences and sort of come together as these remarkable
Heather Hanson:human beings that we are. So whatever I can contribute to
Heather Hanson:this part of the journey, I'm so grateful. So thank you for that.
Heather Hanson:I appreciate the opportunity. I think one of the things that is
Heather Hanson:the at the forefront of the work that I do and that I hope to
Heather Hanson:continue to do for as long as I am here, is this idea that,
Heather Hanson:like, what if this is all true? What if all these guideposts and
Heather Hanson:signs and little intuitive nagging things that we get and
Heather Hanson:these things that show up for us? What if it's all real? What
Heather Hanson:if that there really is this divine supreme being who, for
Heather Hanson:whatever reason, decided to breathe all of us into
Heather Hanson:existence, and now our greatest responsibility, and what I hope
Heather Hanson:is our deepest and most profound joy is being able to reflect
Heather Hanson:back to God, what he has created through our eyes. So it's a
Heather Hanson:Yeah, it's a profound honor to be here in this space on the
Heather Hanson:planet at this particular time, just to be in observance and
Heather Hanson:celebration of what's happening right now.
Maureen Spielman:I love the way that you say that. And I, what I
Maureen Spielman:hear from people over and over and over again, is was what you
Maureen Spielman:just said to about how we're all this divine representation.
Maureen Spielman:Like, that's not just, you know, we can look at social media and
Maureen Spielman:say, like, Oh, they're saying that they're saying that, but
Maureen Spielman:no, no, no, that's one of those. Those gifts, like, what if what
Maureen Spielman:if it were true that each one of us was instilled with these
Maureen Spielman:gifts, this myriad of just this cocktail or alchemy of? Yeah,
Maureen Spielman:what we're what we're here it is to serve and support? And what
Maureen Spielman:if it were true?
Unknown:Well, and I feel like, you know, not all of us come
Unknown:from fairy tale backstories, some of us have really chaotic,
Unknown:oftentimes horrific, traumatic. backstories. And what if we're
Unknown:able to, instead of sitting in that space of these tragedies
Unknown:that were a part of my life? What if I could figure out a way
Unknown:to use them as medicine for someone else? What if every
Unknown:experience is holy and sacred? And somehow, we get to alchemize
Unknown:it and say, How can I use this to help the next person? How can
Unknown:I shine a light a little bit brighter for the next person
Unknown:that comes along. And so my greatest burden, perhaps can
Unknown:become a blessing for you. And that's one of the things, gosh,
Unknown:it's kind of become like one of my missions to make sure that
Unknown:everybody understands, there's an opportunity here for the
Unknown:divine to be a part of all of it, if you choose to see it, if
Unknown:you'll receive it, it's not reserved with the idea that you
Unknown:have to have a certain degree or you have to have gone through
Unknown:the worst of it or nothing at all. It just is. Because you
Unknown:were, I believe a prayer on the heart of God before you ever
Unknown:took a breath into your humanity. And what are you going
Unknown:to do with that knowing how does every single thing change? If no
Unknown:matter what your backstory here, backstory is, you're here with
Unknown:intention and divine purpose. Now what? Right there's no
Unknown:limit?
Maureen Spielman:No, there's there's no limit and to have
Maureen Spielman:someone like you and as many of us who can be a reflection for
Maureen Spielman:the others who need that, at a particular time, it can change
Maureen Spielman:lives.
Unknown:Yes, I think that's one of the most remarkable gifts
Unknown:that we have is the opportunity to use our voice and use our
Unknown:experiences regardless of what that looks like. I in the work
Unknown:that I do with one on one mentoring. I have a lot of
Unknown:clients that come to me, and they want to heal, they want to
Unknown:figure out like how do I put this burden down. But then it's
Unknown:so comfortable. We don't even recognize that we're carrying it
Unknown:half the time. It's like the sweater that's faded out and
Unknown:it's pillowy and but you won't throw it away because you it's
Unknown:the first thing that you see in the closet. You don't even give
Unknown:it a thought. And I like the idea of shining a light into
Unknown:shadows where we might not want to look because we're so afraid
Unknown:of what's hiding there. And then realizing that it's not so scary
Unknown:when it's framed in divinity. That yes, it was a horrible
Unknown:experience. And I'm so sorry that it happened. But what can
Unknown:we do with it now? How can we take The backstory and turn it
Unknown:into a happily ever after for anybody else that you touch and
Unknown:for your own experience. Yeah,
Maureen Spielman:I love that part of your work. Because just
Maureen Spielman:bringing up, I really appreciate you bringing up, hey, we don't
Maureen Spielman:all come from fairy tale backgrounds. And so there's no
Maureen Spielman:bypassing care of what we've been through. And I think, you
Maureen Spielman:know, you had sent me a beautiful, long, longer bio, and
Maureen Spielman:I in the bio, you talk about how you had your own crash and burn
Maureen Spielman:and kind of, I don't know, I forget what you had called it.
Maureen Spielman:But that time where it seemed that everything was occurring
Maureen Spielman:for you, and then you kind of had a awaking up or it sounds
Maureen Spielman:like a gentle waking up out of that.
Unknown:Yeah, I feel like, well, most of my childhood on
Unknown:into adulthood was chaos. It was just my parents had a very
Unknown:unique way of existing in the world. And a lot of it was not
Unknown:cookie cutter founded on truth, it was more, they created their
Unknown:own kind of reality in a lot of different ways. And so it took a
Unknown:really long time to understand that this isn't the way most
Unknown:people are raised. I started going to a therapist, because I
Unknown:was afraid that I had a warped sense of reality. Because if
Unknown:you're the one who's telling the truth, and everybody else has a
Unknown:skewed narrative, the collective, even in my own home
Unknown:was more like, Well, you're the one that isn't actually being
Unknown:honest, we're the ones that are being honest. So it took a long
Unknown:time to sort that out. And let be able to listen to my own
Unknown:voice and the one that was deeper. And then just when I
Unknown:thought I had figured it all out, 2017 came and my marriage
Unknown:was blown to smithereens, my younger brother passed away
Unknown:after a long battle with cancer, I was hit by a drunk driver. My
Unknown:mother was I put her was actually coming home from
Unknown:putting her in the hospital with end stage leukemia. And then she
Unknown:passed away two weeks later, it was literally in the course of
Unknown:2017 into 2018. And I was like, day after day, kind of in this
Unknown:emotional, fetal position, like Oh, my God, everything that I
Unknown:thought I knew, and everything that was certain for me, doesn't
Unknown:exist anymore. What do I do now? Like, where do I go and what
Unknown:I've never been comfortable in, like walking into a synagogue or
Unknown:going to a girlfriend. Because I had a mother who used to tell
Unknown:me, people didn't like me. So I kept everything very close to
Unknown:the breast. So eventually, I had to sort of decide like, am I
Unknown:gonna move forward? And somehow find my way out of this? Or is
Unknown:this the end of the story for me, like, do I just kind of curl
Unknown:up into a ball under a desk, start sucking my thumb. And
Unknown:that's the end of it. And I decided that there was too much
Unknown:at stake. Like there was too much life that I had come
Unknown:through for that to be the end of the story. And so here I am.
Unknown:And I turned back to the Hebrew alphabet, and taro and God and
Unknown:all the tools that I had been accumulating in this amazing
Unknown:spiritual toolbox, my whole life without even realizing that at
Unknown:some point, they were going to step forward and essentially
Unknown:save me. And now I get to use them as medicine for someone
Unknown:else. So it was, yeah, it was a crazy time. And I, I think life
Unknown:is an ongoing evolution and healing and uncovering and
Unknown:releasing, and, but I'm still here. So as long as I'm still
Unknown:breathing, then I'm still evolving, and it's a really good
Unknown:day.
Maureen Spielman:Yeah, but thank you for sharing, you know,
Maureen Spielman:that the trajectory of that year and, and the pain of it, and I
Maureen Spielman:think a lot of people listening are going to relate to that,
Maureen Spielman:because when rock bottoms come, they sometimes come really big
Maureen Spielman:and heavy. And then it also strikes me that because I had
Maureen Spielman:read that you had been a practitioner and a seeker and
Maureen Spielman:just loved all these different kinds of tools that were out
Maureen Spielman:there and and it really ancient, you know, modalities. And then
Maureen Spielman:when you hit that place and you started to turn around is that
Maureen Spielman:when you began to see it different differently, like wow,
Maureen Spielman:maybe these even have more meaning that I ever knew they
Maureen Spielman:and I can kind of see them sitting on your shelves kind of
Maureen Spielman:waiting for you. Well,
Unknown:yes, I love that. You just said that because I had
Unknown:this book about the Hebrew alphabet this little tiny book.
Unknown:And I'd probably had it for 10 years I've been accumulating,
Unknown:like spiritual knowledge my whole life, I sample from every
Unknown:face every back store every background, because I love it so
Unknown:much this idea that we all come from these different experiences
Unknown:and places religiously spiritually. So there was this
Unknown:book and I kid you not. I looked over at this thing, and it
Unknown:almost like lit up it was, it was brighter than I had ever
Unknown:noticed it to be. So I took it off the shelf. And it was all
Unknown:about the mysticism of the Hebrew alphabet, and how these
Unknown:letters were actually God's tools to create the entire
Unknown:universe and everything in it. Each one of the 22 letters
Unknown:represents something in creation. And then it went a
Unknown:little further when I realized Hold on a minute, the 22 Major
Unknown:Arcana of the Tarot that I've been playing with essentially,
Unknown:since I was six years old. This kind of sounds familiar, started
Unknown:digging deeper, Kabbalistic wisdom and the sages, it all
Unknown:starts overlapping. And each of the 22 majors are assigned a
Unknown:Hebrew letter. There's numerology, there's astrology,
Unknown:there's herbs, and I just allowed myself to literally
Unknown:tumble down this rabbit hole, and was like, Okay, God, I'm
Unknown:listening, show me everything, and show me how I'm going to put
Unknown:this all together. And here I am. It's been quite a journey.
Maureen Spielman:Yeah, has it ever right? And I feel like you
Maureen Spielman:were in a higher consciousness. And we're able to see these
Maureen Spielman:things almost from a mountain top down, and then we're able to
Maureen Spielman:link them up. But what also comes to mind, to me in this
Maureen Spielman:conversation, is that the way that society is set up are in
Maureen Spielman:these different religions. And that, that the certain tools or
Maureen Spielman:books or you know, ancient teachings are for that religion
Maureen Spielman:only. But I hear what you're saying is like, oh, you know,
Maureen Spielman:maybe we can share, maybe there are three lines from one to the
Maureen Spielman:other. And it was never meant to be only for one group of people
Maureen Spielman:and other people excluded.
Unknown:Nope. And that's one of the things that I love the most,
Unknown:is we it's kind of like what you and I were talking about
Unknown:yesterday when I said, you and I will both stand in front of the
Unknown:Mona Lisa. And we will both see different aspects of that piece
Unknown:of artwork. You're going to see one thing, maybe it's the
Unknown:colors, I'm going to see something else. Maybe it's a
Unknown:twinkle in her eye. And rather than me say, No, Maureen, that's
Unknown:not what you should be looking at. What if I looked at it also,
Unknown:what if you shared it with me, and all of a sudden, I got to
Unknown:experience the Mona Lisa, in a completely different context and
Unknown:through someone else's eyes. And I believe this is what God
Unknown:intended for us on a spiritual level. He created this unknown
Unknown:limited body of humanity, not the same, but entirely
Unknown:different. Every single one of us brings something else to this
Unknown:story. And what if the way I experience God, I get to share
Unknown:with you and all of a sudden, you have a different experience
Unknown:of God? Oh, I didn't really think of it that way. Oh, that
Unknown:hasn't been my experience up to this point. People are always
Unknown:surprised when they come to me for intuitive readings. And I
Unknown:quote scripture from the New Testament. Why do you know the
Unknown:New Testament? Are you Jewish? Yes, but it's a beautiful part
Unknown:of this whole thing. And I love that there are these keys and
Unknown:these beautiful lines of what I believe to be divine hope. My
Unknown:gosh, if you have the faith of a mustard seed, you can move a
Unknown:mountain, there's no limit to that. Ask and You Shall Receive
Unknown:knock and the door will be opened, that I was made in the
Unknown:image of the one that made me not if I do things a certain
Unknown:way. But as of being because it is it was designed that way. And
Unknown:far be it for me to get in the way with my interpretation. I
Unknown:just want to be able to share and hopefully when you leave my
Unknown:presence, you and I are better people for having crossed one
Unknown:another's paths. It's pretty simple. I think. It just gets,
Unknown:you know, humanity. We like to take things and make it more
Unknown:complicated. And I think the beautiful thing about God is he
Unknown:or she made sure there's room for everyone at the table. You
Unknown:don't have to do anything to be seated there.
Maureen Spielman:Yeah, and you have this way of, I don't know,
Maureen Spielman:the person that's sitting next Do you look at or looking at the
Maureen Spielman:Mona Lisa with you, that's this beautiful kind of way we're
Maureen Spielman:meant to relate to one another, there's an energy or a quality,
Maureen Spielman:you hold a reverence, I feel like for the human being that's
Maureen Spielman:in front of you, or you're speaking to, it's just a
Maureen Spielman:different feel. And, and, and one that I'd say is so needed
Maureen Spielman:right now.
Unknown:Thank you. You know, I feel like I'm coming from a
Unknown:place. I mean, honestly, most of my life, and now I really, I was
Unknown:recently in Sedona on this private spiritual journey. It
Unknown:was a an organization that offers, literally, it was a
Unknown:private retreat. So your interview, they find out what
Unknown:your intentions are. And then you are assigned these different
Unknown:teachers, depending on how long you're going to be there. And I
Unknown:said to the guy, the concierge that interviewed me, this is
Unknown:what I do for a living. So give me your best, like I want I can
Unknown:take it I, I did it over Yom Kippur war, because I wanted to
Unknown:leave everything in Sedona. And I needed answers to questions
Unknown:and I needed to come back, knowing that I was either going
Unknown:to go full force into the spiritual journey. Or maybe I
Unknown:needed a course correct. So the very first day, they sent me to
Unknown:this lovely woman, and her name was Danny, the title of my
Unknown:teaching with her was healing the childhood wound. And I went
Unknown:into it kind of arrogant. I was like, my god, I've been in
Unknown:therapy. Like for years, I think I got this. No, this woman, a
Unknown:lot of the people, the practitioners were also
Unknown:therapists. So they lent a very interesting perspective. She
Unknown:started asking me questions. And the next thing I knew I was
Unknown:sobbing, because I had this memory of being in third grade.
Unknown:And I wanted to invite a teacher to come home and have lunch with
Unknown:us. This was like a thing we did in elementary school. And my mom
Unknown:said, yeah, she's not going to want to come, she's never liked
Unknown:you. And you've never been somebody that she's really
Unknown:wanted in her class to begin with. And I was like, Oh, my
Unknown:gosh, I had this like lightning bolt moment sitting with this
Unknown:woman, Denny, when all of a sudden, I realized that my mom
Unknown:spent most of my life doing this, when I would say I want to
Unknown:go after this job, my mom would have some weird reason why the
Unknown:person who was supposed to hire me wasn't going to like me. And
Unknown:I'm not saying this out of a place of, I don't come from this
Unknown:as a victim. This is what I believe became one of my
Unknown:greatest tools. Because I walk through the world very
Unknown:intentionally, making sure I do whatever I can do so that nobody
Unknown:ever feels the way I was made to feel. If I had known that God
Unknown:just loved me, for me, and that I was created with intention.
Unknown:And I didn't have to be anything more than who I already am. How
Unknown:would every single thing have been different than and so it's,
Unknown:it's the number one thing on the top of my, like, how can I serve
Unknown:is just making I don't care if you're a Christian, a Muslim and
Unknown:eight I don't does none of that. What matters to me is that you
Unknown:know that you're here, because you matter, because you mattered
Unknown:so much that you had to be created, in order for God to be
Unknown:able to express this most holy aspect of his or herself through
Unknown:you. There was no other way it could be done. Oh my gosh,
Unknown:that's like,
Maureen Spielman:why now what? Yeah. And so in the ceremony
Maureen Spielman:that you had where this the memory was coming, and you're
Maureen Spielman:seeing the patterns of the way your mom came to you, then was
Maureen Spielman:there a time where then you went back to yourself with this new
Maureen Spielman:messaging? Or how did she work?
Unknown:Yeah, that was so I didn't realize at the time, so
Unknown:that was on Monday, and every modality every teacher
Unknown:throughout the rest of the week, was intentionally building on
Unknown:each experience that you had getting to. It was supposed to
Unknown:not happen till Friday, but on Wednesday evening, I had an
Unknown:experience with a shamanic breath worker that I thought I
Unknown:was dead like I it took me weeks after I got home to be able to
Unknown:even talk about it. Because it was such a profound experience
Unknown:where I literally I knew for the first time without doubt that I
Unknown:was that I matter that what it was okay to put everything down
Unknown:now that I can now free up that space be Because the way I heard
Unknown:it, in this unbelievable, I was like, I can't even there's not
Unknown:really words to describe. I just heard this beautiful voice
Unknown:saying to me, you have been, you've spent your life trying to
Unknown:intellectualize me. But if you would just get to know me from
Unknown:your heart, we're already connected. This is already I've
Unknown:been here the whole time. And it was like, I can set this stuff
Unknown:down, I can literally set it down. And the next teacher had
Unknown:me call up an image of myself in third grade, bring it up, what
Unknown:did I look like, and begin to have a conversation with nine
Unknown:year old me. And that little version of me has stayed with me
Unknown:since. But now she's safe. Now she feels like, I want to do
Unknown:this with you. And so you get to bring that childhood energy,
Unknown:that innocence that wonder that curiosity. I get to bring it
Unknown:forward now. And I don't have to keep her at bay where she can
Unknown:feel protected and sort of out of frame. So yeah, Sedona
Unknown:changed my life like I can't, there's no way to be the same
Unknown:after that.
Maureen Spielman:I know, I had read it when you said you went
Maureen Spielman:through everything, you know, five years ago, that the one of
Maureen Spielman:the lines, you said something like I learned to take all the
Maureen Spielman:masks off. And you know, through your healing workout in Sedona,
Maureen Spielman:you can see that. I think taking the masks off, it's all a
Maureen Spielman:process with which being patient with ourselves and calling in
Maureen Spielman:what we need are picking up that book we need to read at a
Maureen Spielman:certain time. But then down the line. I love that it came to you
Maureen Spielman:altogether within a week. And then you were it feels like you
Maureen Spielman:really became freed you really became liberated, you really
Maureen Spielman:became just your true self and ready to shine ready to share
Maureen Spielman:from your essence. And then that's the gift that you give
Maureen Spielman:back to your clients now. Oh, I
Unknown:pray that's true. Because I feel like I tell
Unknown:everybody, we're onions. We're like these human onions. And
Unknown:just when you think you understand everything, oh,
Unknown:there's another layer to me. And there's one more and Oh, I
Unknown:totally forgot that happen. And only in hindsight, can we look
Unknown:back and see this complete picture. But the the gift of it
Unknown:all is not using that as a weapon or a shield, but instead
Unknown:carrying it forward and alkalizing all of that into the
Unknown:barrel? The very best of what's on the horizon now, like, what
Unknown:can I do with this? Now, I've been given all of this. And I do
Unknown:believe even the worst of it, it depending on how we choose to
Unknown:frame it going forward can become a gift. But it's a
Unknown:choice. Just like we wake up every day and we decide, how am
Unknown:I going to experience the day, there could be 20 people that
Unknown:come at you with their own stuff? Do you let it stick? Do
Unknown:you alchemize it into something good to give back to them? What
Unknown:is it? What how do you utilize that? And so I think when we
Unknown:live our lives from this space of a holy intention, and make no
Unknown:mistake that it's like an emotional chacha, we take a few
Unknown:steps forward and always back. But as long as we're moving with
Unknown:awareness, we're moving in the right direction. Yeah.
Maureen Spielman:And you said to that you came back from that
Maureen Spielman:retreat? Seeing yourself, I don't know, translator a
Maureen Spielman:translator came out of that one. But you also said wounded
Maureen Spielman:healer. And after we spoke yesterday, I was speaking to a
Maureen Spielman:friend and I was so excited. And I said that, you know you had
Maureen Spielman:used that term wounded healer, which I've heard before, too.
Maureen Spielman:Would you explain that a little bit to the listeners to what
Maureen Spielman:what you mean by that?
Unknown:Um, I think and I hope this doesn't sound arrogant when
Unknown:I mean it with the best of intention. I feel like if we're
Unknown:going to step into a space of healing, where we want to heal
Unknown:ourselves and then hopefully use that to heal forward. You can't
Unknown:gain the depth of understanding from a textbook. It has to have
Unknown:been lived. This doesn't mean that everybody's lives in order
Unknown:to do good have to be born out of catastrophe, but a certain
Unknown:sense of having walked in the shadows to know what the shadow
Unknown:is because I believe very much that life is about duality. And
Unknown:we can't know one thing without the other. We can't have a full
Unknown:appreciation for light until we've been in the dark. So I
Unknown:feel like you know there's that phrase healer heal thyself.
Unknown:There was a lot of work to do. I had a lifetime of work that I
Unknown:have been kind of adds easier not to do it and just be
Unknown:protected. Add from it, and shove it under a box under the
Unknown:bed somewhere in a box. And then when you take it out and you
Unknown:look at it, it's time to fix all of this and start the process of
Unknown:healing it so that I can draw on my own experiences. And not to
Unknown:say your experience will be anything like mine. But I have a
Unknown:certain level of empathy, because I know what it feels to
Unknown:be broken. I know what it feels like when you literally feel
Unknown:like there's nothing left to hope. Like, what am I doing
Unknown:here? Why, where do I find value in the world? And so when people
Unknown:come to me, and I have a very specific client in mind that
Unknown:came to me and said, The world is just a horrible place. Why
Unknown:would I want to be a part of this? And I, the only answer I
Unknown:could give was like, give it a chance. If you're constantly
Unknown:looking for devils, you'll always find devils. But if
Unknown:you're looking for sunshine and light, and the good that's out
Unknown:there in the world, it's there. Sometimes it has to come from
Unknown:you. Sometimes that divine spark that was given to you, before
Unknown:you showed up. That's where you have to dig into. And you have
Unknown:to release that spark into the ether so that somebody else gets
Unknown:the benefit of shining from it. So it's very much coming from a
Unknown:broken place. And then using that to heal forward. Yeah, that
Unknown:I would say that would be the wounded healer for me.
Maureen Spielman:I think that giving the permission I love I
Maureen Spielman:like the advice of its advice or the reflection of give it a
Maureen Spielman:chance there reminds me of be willing just all you need to be
Maureen Spielman:is just a little bit willing. I know yesterday you were talking
Maureen Spielman:about you said something, it's time to up and everything as we
Maureen Spielman:know it. And I was wondering, you know if we're a collective,
Maureen Spielman:if everyone listening in today is leaning in and listening into
Maureen Spielman:what's being said, you know, how can we all contribute towards
Maureen Spielman:sort of being part of that recreation of what this was all
Maureen Spielman:meant to be?
Unknown:Oh, that's a big one, isn't it? Yeah. Go big or go
Unknown:home as? Well, I sort of love that. Because don't you have a
Unknown:choice as to what you're going to contribute to the world? And
Unknown:if we literally decide, I asked the client last week, what would
Unknown:happen? If in this moment, just while we're sitting here, forget
Unknown:about when you leave here. But just in this moment? What if you
Unknown:decided to believe that you truly are a divine being? What
Unknown:if you decided to know that? What if all the stuff that
Unknown:happened up to this point, the context of your family? Forget
Unknown:about all of it just for a minute, put it on mute, put it
Unknown:on pause? What happens then what happens when you know, I made in
Unknown:the image of the one that made me this gets me every time I
Unknown:tried to talk about it? Because how can your life ever be the
Unknown:same? How can you not want to tell everybody? It's going to be
Unknown:okay, you came from the same place? I did. And I'm so sorry
Unknown:that up to this point. It may not be perfect. But guess what?
Unknown:We have hope here we have an opportunity to remember who we
Unknown:are not who my mom told me I was not who whatever judgment or
Unknown:whatever the who the humanity, that version of the collective
Unknown:decided. But the voice beneath the voice beneath the voice.
Unknown:That's the one that's there. When you're sobbing on the floor
Unknown:in a heap. And you hear that teeny tiny whisper, you're okay,
Unknown:you're going to be okay, get up, it's going to be okay. That's
Unknown:the divine. That's where I ultimately come from. That's
Unknown:where you come from. And if we can start talking about that, if
Unknown:we can start reminding one another that this is my God,
Unknown:yes, we all started in the same place. And how can we grow this?
Unknown:We that's hope on a level we can't even begin to understand
Unknown:yet. And I think that's the other thing. There's a Hebrew
Unknown:letter Samak, and its energetic essence is the reminder that you
Unknown:and I cannot see around corners. So whatever has been up to this
Unknown:point, there's something bigger at play here. And if we have
Unknown:enough faith to know that there's a lot happening in the
Unknown:ether that if it is meant for me is working its way to me. That
Unknown:takes a lot of burden off of me because I get to just Out of the
Unknown:way and say yes. And if we all decided to say yes, then what?
Unknown:Can you even imagine how different it would all be?
Maureen Spielman:Just the message alone, Heather, to hear
Maureen Spielman:that and to have the permission to even begin to, to believe
Maureen Spielman:that I loved what you're saying, too, because I've had a poll
Maureen Spielman:recently to reflect back to people, all the things they are
Maureen Spielman:doing, or just that reflection, because I think what you're
Maureen Spielman:saying too, is based on what's gone on for us in our lives, we
Maureen Spielman:we we just develop these stories and these limiting beliefs. But
Maureen Spielman:so part of what I hear you saying is like advancing the
Maureen Spielman:humanity, and the collective is seeing it in each other. And
Maureen Spielman:reflecting back being the mirror that that we can't always be for
Maureen Spielman:ourselves, and holding up the light. And I love the Hebrew
Maureen Spielman:letter and the around the corner and the unknown, and can we let
Maureen Spielman:go? Can we trust? Can we know that it's all going to be
Maureen Spielman:working out in our favor? Well, I
Unknown:mean, this is an easy, I think that that the big
Unknown:misperception is like, Oh, I say yes to God, and my divinity. And
Unknown:now, all the other stuff is just going to miraculously fall away.
Unknown:I've been committed to doing this work for years, but never
Unknown:was vocal about it. Because my story has always been, well, who
Unknown:would I be to talk about this? My mom didn't even like me.
Unknown:Like, if my own mother didn't like me, how can I possibly help
Unknown:someone else. And then I realized, my mom was doing the
Unknown:best that she could with where she came from. And it's these,
Unknown:we have these generational limitations and understandings,
Unknown:because we don't know better. And once we do to know better
Unknown:means we have the opportunity to do better. And so if I decide on
Unknown:Tuesday, that I'm going to begin to believe a different voice,
Unknown:there's a lot of possibility there. And if you get to see me
Unknown:doing that, or I get to see you doing that, and that makes it a
Unknown:little more okay for me, now, we have a ripple effect happening,
Unknown:that we don't even understand the limitation. I mean, there's,
Unknown:it just keeps going at that point. But sometimes we have to
Unknown:be able to see it in someone else, to know that it's okay to
Unknown:do that.
Maureen Spielman:I agree with you completely. And, you know,
Maureen Spielman:people might even look at you and say, Oh, this is so easy for
Maureen Spielman:her, but you are telling us your journey was not always stepping
Maureen Spielman:into that. This is who I am, these are my gifts, this is how
Maureen Spielman:I serve. It's been an evolution. But I love how, you know, a
Maureen Spielman:couple of times today, you've pointed out, you know, no, there
Maureen Spielman:is healing to be done. And I think that when I, you know, had
Maureen Spielman:gone through my breast cancer journey, and then down the road,
Maureen Spielman:when the idea of this podcast came to me, I always had, in my
Maureen Spielman:experience that these two elements joy and healing could
Maureen Spielman:co occur. And it's it was when I put the language together for
Maureen Spielman:the podcast, it was joy and healing could co occur. And then
Maureen Spielman:within community. And I think it's important what you're
Maureen Spielman:saying, because we all have our painful places, and we are all
Maureen Spielman:you know, we are here for each other to to be here for each
Maureen Spielman:other to help the healing process how we can and largely
Maureen Spielman:it's our own to do and, and and then there's the and I also love
Maureen Spielman:yesterday, I think I don't think I said the words that you said.
Maureen Spielman:But when you said, if all this is all this beautiful, magical
Maureen Spielman:tools in front of us. You call it the show and tell. And I just
Maureen Spielman:thought a lot of what you're tapping into reminds me when you
Maureen Spielman:talk about the Divinity, and the show and tell it reminds me of
Maureen Spielman:our childlike nature. It reminds me of how we used to play and be
Maureen Spielman:in the sandbox and just the delight that we carried as young
Maureen Spielman:young children, and that we see we witnessed in young children.
Maureen Spielman:But that is a rediscovery of our inherent essence I believe, too.
Unknown:It's a choice, because we can layer on. I mean, listen,
Unknown:being human is tough sometimes. Like there's a lot of stuff that
Unknown:gets thrown at us that given a choice, we would not have chosen
Unknown:this for ourselves. So what do we do with it? It's already
Unknown:here. I can't deny it. That hasn't served me in any way. But
Unknown:what if the worst of it actually can serve me? What if there's
Unknown:something good that I can do? Do with it. And oh my god, what
Unknown:else is out there? Like, where's the rest of the story? If I
Unknown:shrink myself down, keep my head down and don't look for it. All
Unknown:that magic that's been tapping that's been trying to get my
Unknown:attention is like, alright, well, I gave it a shot. I guess
Unknown:I'm gonna move on down the road to Amy's house. Maybe she's
Unknown:open. Maybe she's listening. So I feel like Yeah, I mean,
Unknown:sometimes. Someone said to me, I think I told you this yesterday,
Unknown:I was having a conversation with someone about God. And I said, I
Unknown:truly believe at the end of the day, it's all about loving one
Unknown:another. And this person looked at me and he was like, that is
Unknown:that's from the mouth of a simpleton. Nobody, nobody talks
Unknown:like that. Nobody actually believes that. And I was like,
Unknown:Yes, but what if that's true? Why wouldn't it be so much more
Unknown:exciting to live in that world and to come at life from that
Unknown:experience? Because little kids, they bring like a certain energy
Unknown:to things until we tell them not to, until we say like, no,
Unknown:Johnny, that isn't how it's supposed to be, you shouldn't be
Unknown:that joyful, contain yourself. And I feel like, it's so
Unknown:interesting to me, because we start out like that. We go
Unknown:through this grown up s aspect of ourselves, and then we become
Unknown:older. And in our later years, we get back to that place. A lot
Unknown:of times, they lose their inhibitions with age, because at
Unknown:a certain point, you say to yourself, What have I been
Unknown:waiting for? Like, why have I been keeping all of this joy in
Unknown:a box? There's only so much time, I may as well enjoy it
Unknown:now. So it's Yeah, meaning from a play. You know, when people
Unknown:come to me, I create a lot of personal rituals for people to
Unknown:just draw their attention to the present while they're setting an
Unknown:intention, and a lot of times people will ask, like, what kind
Unknown:of candleholders should I use. Now I always tell people to go
Unknown:to a park, where a lot of children play and collect the
Unknown:gravel or the dirt from around the swing, set the slide the
Unknown:playground and anchor your candle in that. Because that
Unknown:energy, that's pure joy. That's what it looked like when we were
Unknown:kids before the world said it's not supposed to be that way. So
Unknown:every time you look at that dirt, it's just some gravel, but
Unknown:it's charged with this beautiful innocence that laughs when the
Unknown:craziest things happen and doesn't care. It's just innate
Unknown:joy. And that's what it should be.
Maureen Spielman:And I feel like that's what you're
Maureen Spielman:delivering to because if we if we talk about the creative sage
Maureen Spielman:cottage, which you opened I've been there and when I walked in
Maureen Spielman:it's it's it's got a little bit of something for everyone and
Maureen Spielman:you feel like a kid in a candy shop. Because it's it's so so
Maureen Spielman:magical and everything that you're describing today and the
Maureen Spielman:different things that you turn to to assist your clients and
Maureen Spielman:yourself. It's like this potpourri. And that's the way I
Maureen Spielman:see that the cottage as well because someone can walk into it
Maureen Spielman:and pick and choose pick up a journal and say like is okay oh,
Maureen Spielman:is this one for me? Do I like the color? Okay, I'm gonna put
Maureen Spielman:that back. I'm gonna go over here. Oh, she's got crystals
Maureen Spielman:over here. So just talk about that create the creative sage
Maureen Spielman:cottage. And how did that come to be? And it's just such a
Maureen Spielman:magical place. And I know a lot of people are going to visit and
Maureen Spielman:get joy from it. Thank you.
Unknown:It's like a buy bubble. I always tell people, you know,
Unknown:I've been doing this for a while and I had this little tiny
Unknown:cottage that we had built next door. I'm super lucky because I
Unknown:live on a piece of land we purchased that zoned commercial
Unknown:residential. So this is literally in my backyard. And
Unknown:when I started out, I just I mean, I've been I was afraid to
Unknown:say like, Oh, I do tarot readings. And I'm an intuitive
Unknown:but I'm not a fortune teller. I want to share my understanding
Unknown:of God with you. And I didn't want to sound like everything
Unknown:I've done. I've always, like held everything back. But then I
Unknown:sort of started putting it out there like, this isn't for you
Unknown:to have a winning lottery ticket. This is not for me to
Unknown:wave a magic wand and change anything for you. This is for me
Unknown:to offer awareness. And people started showing up at this teeny
Unknown:tiny little cottage. And you would I'd have to like open the
Unknown:doors and bring chairs and these beautiful conversations would
Unknown:happen. And I my husband, thankfully is immensely
Unknown:supportive and was like yeah, we have this isn't going to work.
Unknown:We're going to need Need something else. So we decided
Unknown:that I would have a bigger space, we would basically like,
Unknown:I think we tripled it. Because I do new moon and full moon
Unknown:workshops. And it's about community, and it's about sacred
Unknown:community. And I have a waiting list people like wanted to be a
Unknown:part of a conversation and community. And to be honest with
Unknown:you, I had this, I'll call it a download, or during a
Unknown:meditation, where I heard a voice very clearly saying to me,
Unknown:I'm gonna go there, I'm gonna give you all the tools, I'm
Unknown:going to make sure you have everything you need to show them
Unknown:the tools, and then get out of the way. Eventually, everybody
Unknown:will find their way to God, I hope and their version of the of
Unknown:God, I feel like my job is to say there isn't a right or wrong
Unknown:way to get there. You could try this, you could go to church,
Unknown:you could go to synagogue, whatever feels right for you,
Unknown:wherever you feel most comfortable in relationship with
Unknown:God, go there. These are the things that I feel good sharing
Unknown:with you do, I think that I'm going to hand you a piece of
Unknown:Rose Quartz, and you're going to fall madly in love with
Unknown:yourself. No. But I pray that when you hold that piece of Rose
Unknown:Quartz, you remember what it means. And when you remember
Unknown:that it's about unconditional love. It triggers you to start
Unknown:thinking that way about yourself. So I feel like a lot
Unknown:of it is I call them for better for lack of a better word like
Unknown:holy props, because they really are. You know, I'm known for
Unknown:these Mojo bags and intention candles that I create. But I'm
Unknown:not doing anything other than putting things together that are
Unknown:in direct spiritual and energetic alignment with
Unknown:whatever your intention is for yourself. So I just create a
Unknown:space for it. And then I hope to open a dialogue about it. What
Unknown:you do is that when you leave, that's completely up to you. And
Unknown:that's between you and God. I don't believe there's a right or
Unknown:wrong way of taking that journey. I believe the most
Unknown:important thing is that you say yes to the journey. Because that
Unknown:to me is like there's nothing better.
Maureen Spielman:Oh, I think anyone's stepping into the place
Maureen Spielman:and you call them the Mojo bag. Yeah. Yeah. Yes. It's an
Maureen Spielman:invitation. It's I can see though, that when people come
Maureen Spielman:in, they're ready. They're ready to go. They're ready for the
Maureen Spielman:conversation there. People are hungry were we talked about
Maureen Spielman:briefly yesterday that most of us have been conditioned to be
Maureen Spielman:brought up in the doing doing doing and we're all
Maureen Spielman:deprogramming from that, I believe COVID. You know, COVID
Maureen Spielman:handed us that lesson. And some of us may have gone back. And
Maureen Spielman:even if we went back to the previous doing, we're still
Maureen Spielman:being called to deprogram that and I think we know it.
Unknown:So awareness. Absolutely. And thank God for
Unknown:that. I mean, truly, I mean, I COVID was horrible. And so much
Unknown:of what happened during that time was just catastrophic on a
Unknown:million different levels. But it shattered a sort of sacred
Unknown:vessel and scattered light everywhere again, and we came
Unknown:back to our families, we came back to a place of quiet, we
Unknown:came back to a place of understanding what it feels like
Unknown:when we cannot be with community. So we figured out
Unknown:ways to create community, even if we weren't sharing physical
Unknown:space together. So yeah, it was awful on a million levels. But
Unknown:then there was the, it's the beginning of something. And
Unknown:sometimes the pendulum has to go to the worst place so that it
Unknown:can swing back again. That's that duality. One of the things
Unknown:that I love more than anything is the new moon. Because going
Unknown:back to Biblical times, way back in the Old Testament, it was
Unknown:essentially given as a god gave it as a New Moon is like a gift
Unknown:for women. It's a moment for you to press pause on everything,
Unknown:and be in this place of faith, that even though we can't see
Unknown:the moon, it's there. And it's this opportunity to come
Unknown:together and be still for a moment. Check in on our lives on
Unknown:one another on what the energy of the season is on what the the
Unknown:energy of the calendar day feels like. And try to get ourselves
Unknown:in soul alignment with that. And I feel like that's the that's
Unknown:the pendulum swinging back to that place of awareness. Because
Unknown:we know we know that we can't keep running around like maniacs
Unknown:at some point. We're all going to crash. Yeah. And so if it's
Unknown:just one day and minds that you decide, today's the day I'm
Unknown:going to be quiet. That starts something that's a seed for
Unknown:something. And it's a pretty amazing place to begin.
Maureen Spielman:And when we're recording this today, are we on
Maureen Spielman:the eve of a new moon? Full moon, full moon, full moon.
Maureen Spielman:Yeah,
Unknown:we're like tonight into tomorrow night is the full moon.
Unknown:And so this is the other part of this. So if the New Moon is all
Unknown:about faith, and setting an intention for what we would like
Unknown:to draw forward for the next 30 days, whatever your timeframe
Unknown:is, the beauty of the full moon is full illumination, we get to
Unknown:check in that light, that beautiful divine energy of the
Unknown:moon, lights up all the corners where the shadows live. And we
Unknown:get to ask ourselves, okay, how am I doing? As far as this
Unknown:intention? I said, How do I feel about this? Do I need to tweak
Unknown:anything, Are things going well, is there something that is in
Unknown:the way that I can release in order to hold space for this new
Unknown:intention that I've created for myself, so most of the time,
Unknown:when we do workshops on the full moon at the cottage, I don't
Unknown:know, if we did this, when I was with you, where we write down
Unknown:what we would like to release, we then set it on fire and allow
Unknown:it to go up into the smoke. But I don't like anything to be left
Unknown:open ended. So we then take those ashes, and we mix them
Unknown:with roses, and lavender and salt, and all sorts of energetic
Unknown:organics. And now wildflowers, and we sprinkle them with the
Unknown:idea that something that was a burden yesterday now becomes a
Unknown:blessing. And it's sort of a seed now, we alchemize something
Unknown:that felt negative, and we make it into something potentially
Unknown:really positive. And now we have this new space, where something
Unknown:else good can move in with intention,
Maureen Spielman:you beautiful ritual I, I can and to be able
Maureen Spielman:to have access to that through nature, you know, once monthly
Maureen Spielman:for each of those events, it's, it's, it's right there for us. I
Maureen Spielman:really love and appreciate sort of, as we're wrapping up here,
Maureen Spielman:just the way that you approach life. And really, when you talk
Maureen Spielman:about the shadow, because I was thinking of you and holding even
Maureen Spielman:the light in the dark, you know, even when you talked about
Maureen Spielman:COVID, and you said that, it was really hard times it's, I love
Maureen Spielman:that you can name that and not have to bypass the reality of
Maureen Spielman:what that was or how that affected people's lives deeply,
Maureen Spielman:not always for the better. And in to be able to name it and
Maureen Spielman:just be with it. And just, it kind of it's got an ease about
Maureen Spielman:it. And a real grounding for sure. But just an honoring of I
Maureen Spielman:think what I'm tapping into is honoring of each of our
Maureen Spielman:experiences than we and to do that for another is such a big
Maureen Spielman:gift.
Unknown:It's sacred work. I believe it's 100% sacred work. I
Unknown:always tell people, you know, kids, when they come to your
Unknown:room in the middle of the night, because there's a monster under
Unknown:their beds, there's some dark, shadowy thing that's terrifying
Unknown:to them. And then we go into their bedroom, and we turn the
Unknown:light on, and we show them under the bed that there's nothing
Unknown:there to be afraid of. It's just a shadow. Yeah, I feel like this
Unknown:is how if we choose to exist in the world, it could be really
Unknown:bad, it could be a horrible, terrifying thing. But we still
Unknown:have to look at it, we still have to be able to acknowledge
Unknown:that it exists. Because if we are not willing to shine a light
Unknown:on it, it never has an opportunity to heal. Some seeds
Unknown:grow in the dark, but ultimately, they need light to
Unknown:thrive. You know, the lotus flower, which is like one of my
Unknown:sacred symbols, she starts out in the mud. I mean, it's the
Unknown:very worst conditions for her to begin. And yet she knows if she
Unknown:keeps climbing, there's light to be found there. But we have to
Unknown:have the experience we can't do not pass go do not collect 200
Unknown:at like you have to be able to walk through this because every
Unknown:part of this process is for you. And if we decide to know that
Unknown:this whole experience is here for us, we get to look at it
Unknown:through a different lens. And even if it's scary, something
Unknown:good potentially could come out of this. And what if that's
Unknown:true. Now what do we do?
Maureen Spielman:Oh, that's a great it's a great way to just
Maureen Spielman:circle back around and and finish today. You've left the
Maureen Spielman:audience with alimony, beautiful things to think about things to
Maureen Spielman:explore. And I always ask at the end, where can listeners find
Maureen Spielman:you either online or, you know, physically if they venture up
Maureen Spielman:into your area? Or any workshops that you have coming up?
Unknown:Yeah. So every month, I'm in Union pier Michigan, this
Unknown:magical little lakeside town in southwest Michigan. And my
Unknown:cottage is on the property right off Red Arrow highway by the
Unknown:legendary skips restaurant. You can go online to creative sage
Unknown:cottage.com and find out all about what's coming Instagram,
Unknown:Facebook, carrier pigeon, I have a mailing list. It's all like, I
Unknown:do the best that I can I have to tell you like social media and I
Unknown:are not, we're not on the greatest terms, because I love
Unknown:to communicate like this. So but if information about workshops,
Unknown:and magical mentoring is definitely available there. I
Unknown:also started sending out actual love letters to people. I kept
Unknown:hearing that I needed to send mail like real snail mail,
Unknown:because we don't all exist in this computer land. So I put out
Unknown:a call like a year ago and just said, Hey, if you're up for
Unknown:receiving a love letter, I would love your physical mailing
Unknown:address. And I honestly thought like, maybe 510 people. So I'm
Unknown:over 300 names on this list right now. And while I sit down,
Unknown:I mean, people don't even realize I'm actually writing you
Unknown:these letters. So I pray about it. I asked what name needs to
Unknown:be like, Who do I need to write the letter to? And then I wait
Unknown:for the address and the name to light up and sit for a minute
Unknown:and I write this hand illustrated, handwritten letter.
Unknown:Oh, my gosh, and then it goes in the mail. So if you're somebody
Unknown:who craves mail, physical addresses or something I'm still
Unknown:collecting. And the cool thing is I'm getting letters back now.
Unknown:So I'm, I feel like I'm in day camp again. But I have like pen
Unknown:pals. Yeah. So yeah, it's it's a good thing. There's many ways
Unknown:for us to come together. But always here at the cottage. I've
Unknown:open hours on Fridays, and Saturdays, and then the new moon
Unknown:every month, it fills up very quickly, because I tried to keep
Unknown:it very intimate. But hopefully it will be expanding at some
Unknown:point. So I would love to hear from your people and keep
Unknown:building this beautiful holy community that I know, has just
Unknown:beautiful and tremendous and sacred work to do and whatever I
Unknown:can do to support that. I'm here for all of it. So yeah, thank
Unknown:you. Good thing. Thank you.
Maureen Spielman:Yes. Okay, Heather. So thank you to the
Maureen Spielman:listeners for being here today. And I know that you just are
Maureen Spielman:walking away with so much. So I'll see you next time. Thank
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