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Christina Glickman is an accomplished author, momma, speaker and entrepreneur. And at the heart of it all, she is a woman creating sacred spaces for conscious conversations that support and inspire. This week’s deep dive conversation is with Christina Glickman, founder of Xtra Love Army and creator of the TEDx talk “Reclaiming Our Voice. Women - Ones You’ve Been Waiting For”. In this soulful interview, Christina sheds light on what women lost during the pandemic and what they found community in the form of each other. She is such an avid supporter of women living out their dreams and as a business coach, guides them to bring their true heart’s desire to life. The world simply is calling for more of her energy and light. Take a listen, I have a feeling you will love.
EPISODE TAKEAWAYS:
Christina’s shift from the hustle to the flow
Why nothing really trumps human connection and our collective energy
Mothering and how it fits into Christina’s overall life vision
The creation of a TEDx talk as the both/and: a major milestone and one of the most exhausting times of her life
The purpose of sharing of our stories: as a way of inspiring others and creating true soul connections with one another
Acknowledgment of the new way of doing business - we are more powerful together
About the Guest: (bio, personal links, resource links)
Christina Glickman is a TEDx speaker, host of the podcast Xtra: Life & Style Unscripted, best selling author of the book, Xtra: The Art of being, founder of the movement the Xtra Love Army and was recently featured in Elle and Harper's Bazaar for the Best Street Style looks from the Paris Fashion week shows. She is a mother of four and lives to champion others to show up in life unapologetically, to live a life XTRA.
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https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/xtra-life-style-unscripted/id1600128174
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Membership & coaching
BOOK: Xtra: The Art of Being
FOLLOW: @christinaglickman
About the Host: (bio, personal links, resource links)
Maureen Spielman is the Founder of Mystical Sisterhood, a podcast dedicated to bringing more joy, healing and expansion to the world. She is a seasoned life coach who supports individuals through one-on-one coaching, groups and workshops.
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Maureen Spielman:in the episode. All right. Welcome to mystical sisterhood.
Maureen Spielman:I'm your host, Maureen Spielman. And I'm so excited to be with
Maureen Spielman:Christina Glickman, today, I met Christina years ago, as we were,
Maureen Spielman:I was starting a business, she was already an entrepreneur, and
Maureen Spielman:she guided and mentored me. But, Christina, I think you so
Maureen Spielman:succinctly, in your sort of like tagline, under your signature,
Maureen Spielman:kind of say what you do, and I'm just gonna read it. You have
Maureen Spielman:mother, TEDx, speaker, author, podcaster, and you're the
Maureen Spielman:founder of extra love army. So I'm just gonna, I just wanted to
Maureen Spielman:share that with our audience, because it was just so simple,
Maureen Spielman:the way you have it written out. And I want to touch upon all
Maureen Spielman:those things today. And I think our conversation is going to go
Maureen Spielman:a lot of places, when I think of you, I think of a woman who is
Maureen Spielman:an absolute 1,000% champion of other women, you live life,
Maureen Spielman:unabashedly as yourself, you show up in such a real way, with
Maureen Spielman:people that I think it creates a safety and really sacred space
Maureen Spielman:for them. So those are just just some beginning, introduction
Maureen Spielman:points I want to make for you. Christina also has a book called
Maureen Spielman:extra, the art of being it's a beautiful, I don't even know how
Maureen Spielman:to explain it. Coffee Table Book, with your fashions, and
Maureen Spielman:your take on life. And again, you've got this way of doing
Maureen Spielman:these things that simple, it's straightforward. And it just, I
Maureen Spielman:just think it speaks to people. You're now I'm having a weekly
Maureen Spielman:podcast called Extra Life and style unscripted. So we're gonna
Maureen Spielman:talk about that, because what you say about living life,
Maureen Spielman:unscripted, might say, at all, not sure. And then you have a
Maureen Spielman:TEDx talk. And those are just some of the things that you've
Maureen Spielman:got going on. But I want to welcome you here today and say,
Maureen Spielman:I'm so grateful to be in your energy and your presence, and
Maureen Spielman:how you doing?
Christina Glickman:Oh, my gosh, thank you for having me. Those
Christina Glickman:are such nice words. I just adore everything you're doing.
Christina Glickman:And thank you for opening the container for so many women to
Christina Glickman:hear about the conversations that you've been having for
Christina Glickman:years. And so for me, just as your friend watching you
Christina Glickman:completely come alive in this new type of business. It's just
Christina Glickman:such a joy. So I'm honored to be here and privileged to be with
Christina Glickman:your community and your sisterhood. And I love
Christina Glickman:everything you're doing. And can I just say, as a fan of yours,
Christina Glickman:like keep doing it? Like keep keep, keep introducing us to
Christina Glickman:people? I was just about to press play on the one that you
Christina Glickman:were talking about yesterday? Because there's so many I can't
Christina Glickman:even pronounce the word, the recording what that word is
Christina Glickman:within a I think the Akashic Record. Yeah, yeah. I don't know
Christina Glickman:what that is. It's like how beautiful that you're
Christina Glickman:introducing us to so many things. So just thank you as a
Christina Glickman:fan of your work. And I am excited about our conversation
Christina Glickman:today. And hopefully, we can, you know, have some insightful
Christina Glickman:chat, hear about all the work that you do.
Maureen Spielman:Thank you so much, Christina. And I think
Maureen Spielman:that's right. I think that for the people that I'm having on
Maureen Spielman:first these concepts, and they're they all are new
Maureen Spielman:learnings to me at some point, too. So you know, we're all
Maureen Spielman:overlapping and layering on what we know. And it's amazing. You
Maureen Spielman:just said something about, I don't know how you just said it,
Maureen Spielman:but it was like a new way of doing business or this new way
Maureen Spielman:of entrepreneurship here. Why don't we start
Christina Glickman:there? Sure. I mean, absolutely. And I think
Christina Glickman:it's because as of late, I really talked about my life and
Christina Glickman:for others as us being life entrepreneurs, meaning that
Christina Glickman:we're equally ambitious professionally as we are
Christina Glickman:personally. And so I think If you have a sense of curiosity
Christina Glickman:and wonder, and always knowing that the person you're talking
Christina Glickman:to has something to teach you, and just sort of being open to
Christina Glickman:that presence, for me is how a new kind of entrepreneurship was
Christina Glickman:born. Because I think before, for me, it was always about the
Christina Glickman:chase and the hustle and the accolades, and the success and
Christina Glickman:the productivity and all the things that programmed me that I
Christina Glickman:identified with that made me feel worthwhile and valuable.
Christina Glickman:And it's taken me years to sort of shed that skin to understand
Christina Glickman:that all of those sort of mechanics and pieces of it
Christina Glickman:really don't make my identity and, and that it takes a lot of
Christina Glickman:work. I'm still working on it, I think I'll be working on it
Christina Glickman:forever. But I think the moment that we released some of those
Christina Glickman:badges, if you will, then we are able to become entrepreneurs of
Christina Glickman:our own passion and joy. And because again, we all know that
Christina Glickman:operating with anxiety and fear is exhausting. And it's the same
Christina Glickman:that holds true for operating without our authentic self.
Christina Glickman:Because, you know, if I come on to this podcast, and I think,
Christina Glickman:oh, my gosh, I want to be as great as Marine, I'm going to
Christina Glickman:fail already, because I'm not you. And instead if I can come
Christina Glickman:on and say, I'm just bringing my whole self and my intention is
Christina Glickman:pure, and I hope that something I say lands on someone to has to
Christina Glickman:be enough.
Maureen Spielman:Oh, I love that. Yes, yes. And our pieces
Maureen Spielman:come together, and they complement one another. Yeah. I
Maureen Spielman:like what you said about this concept. I have not heard that
Maureen Spielman:of life entrepreneur. Because when I started, I said, the
Maureen Spielman:first thing you say, in that tagline is Mother, you know, so
Maureen Spielman:the old version of the entrepreneur would be like,
Maureen Spielman:what's your business? What do you serve to your business? You
Maureen Spielman:know how much money you're gonna make through it. But then you
Maureen Spielman:start with mother. So that to me, says, oh, that's part of
Maureen Spielman:that life entrepreneur, that's it's got its Christina is not
Maureen Spielman:just not only the extra love army, she's much bigger than
Maureen Spielman:that.
Christina Glickman:And I used to, I used to fight against so
Christina Glickman:many. And I think a lot of a lot of the people listening will
Christina Glickman:understand. I used to fight against so many of those badges
Christina Glickman:because they did give me a comfort of who I was right. So
Christina Glickman:so you know, if I'm not a mother, what am I if I'm not a
Christina Glickman:working woman or an entrepreneur, what am I? And
Christina Glickman:I've realized, and I'm sure you have to that, you know, we're
Christina Glickman:many things right, were a bunch of hands. And that's a beautiful
Christina Glickman:thing. And as I sort of learned the power of reflection, I'm
Christina Glickman:understanding why I've done certain things in my life. And I
Christina Glickman:will never think any step is a mistake or a regret. I think
Christina Glickman:it's all about the journey about who we are. But even when I look
Christina Glickman:back in the past couple years of my life, I think there's certain
Christina Glickman:moves I made because my ego needed them, or I needed the
Christina Glickman:credibility or validity to feel like I was important enough. And
Christina Glickman:so I feel like the older I get, and the more work I do, the more
Christina Glickman:I also realize that the here and now in the moment I'm in and the
Christina Glickman:work I'm doing like, again, it's exactly where I'm supposed to be
Christina Glickman:and the universe isn't gonna miss me. And I just am very,
Christina Glickman:very aware that the only energy that I want to chase is peace. I
Christina Glickman:don't want to chase anything else, because I did it for so
Christina Glickman:many years. Right. And I also don't judge anyone that's in
Christina Glickman:that moment of, of hustle or energy because it gets you to
Christina Glickman:where you are. And hopefully, if we talked in five more years,
Christina Glickman:I'd be like, I don't even know who that person was, you know,
Christina Glickman:in the greenery coat. Because I hope that we're always, you
Christina Glickman:know, evolving and changing in that way.
Maureen Spielman:I love that. And I think that that we can see
Maureen Spielman:at the versions of the woman, the human that we were before we
Maureen Spielman:see it in one another. Yeah. So I think as we kind of settle
Maureen Spielman:into this new way of being with women, look where this group is,
Maureen Spielman:my listeners are a lot of women identified. And I think that
Maureen Spielman:we're settling into this newer way of being where it's like,
Maureen Spielman:okay, we can we can put the hustle down. We can't and it's
Maureen Spielman:instilled, there's a lot on the outer, that's telling us we need
Maureen Spielman:to we need to chase it, we need to go for it. And it's up to us
Maureen Spielman:to make that decision. But I think like sitting in these
Maureen Spielman:circles sitting in these conversations where we're like,
Maureen Spielman:No, I see you. I've been there. Even if I haven't been there,
Maureen Spielman:I'm here for you. I'm to witness you to see your healing to see
Maureen Spielman:your growth and your transformation.
Christina Glickman:I mean, and I think that that's what you hit
Christina Glickman:upon, which is that I don't think anything's ever going to
Christina Glickman:trump that power of human connection. And so by you
Christina Glickman:opening up the container for all of us to have a discussion what
Christina Glickman:it's what it's saying is the age old. I see you, I hear you, I
Christina Glickman:validate you, I've been there, you've been there. So I think
Christina Glickman:you're just kind of giving voice to the fact that you're not
Christina Glickman:alone. And we are all trying to do something with parenting or
Christina Glickman:something with an illness or something. It doesn't matter.
Christina Glickman:But I think that the power of storytelling is so extreme and
Christina Glickman:I, you know, as I've sort of thought about for myself, you
Christina Glickman:know, I'll ask myself often like, Well, what do you do? And
Christina Glickman:who are you? And what are you doing. And I think for me, it
Christina Glickman:will always be that thread of, through the through storytelling
Christina Glickman:of my own and other women, and especially women, I feel that it
Christina Glickman:ultimately transformed somebody into thinking or being or doing
Christina Glickman:differently. And, and whether or not somebody is in a position
Christina Glickman:where they hear a story, and they want to do something
Christina Glickman:different with their lives, or just makes them feel better. I
Christina Glickman:also feel like we come in and out of when we're ready to hear
Christina Glickman:a story. So that's why you know, you and I talking about whatever
Christina Glickman:if the same topic is confidence, or whatever it might be, we need
Christina Glickman:you. And that's why there's always room for everyone to open
Christina Glickman:the circle, because that is why I love to champion, especially
Christina Glickman:women so much is because everyone has something to share,
Christina Glickman:if you're willing to share it. And so, the idea being if I tell
Christina Glickman:you a story, or I tell you somebody else's, you're probably
Christina Glickman:gonna see something of yourself in it. And it's gonna make you
Christina Glickman:feel better. Yeah. And isn't that what we're just trying to
Christina Glickman:do every day? It's kind of simple, but it's also really
Christina Glickman:hard.
Maureen Spielman:Absolutely, yeah. And it reminds me of just
Maureen Spielman:re listening to your, your TED talk, I'm just gonna go there
Maureen Spielman:for a moment. Because that that started out with storytelling.
Maureen Spielman:Yeah, and I know, that's something that you greatly
Maureen Spielman:prepared for, and put so much love and energy to, and I just
Maureen Spielman:gonna say just as a little side, that your message of extra and
Maureen Spielman:extra love is so felt, and so needed. And that delivery of
Maureen Spielman:love, and it was no accident that I'm on my way to school
Maureen Spielman:today, dropping my son, the car in front of me had two stickers
Maureen Spielman:that said, Love on this bumper today. But tell our audience
Maureen Spielman:about how did this TEDx talk about? What was that topic you
Maureen Spielman:chose?
Christina Glickman:Sure. And I love to talk about Ted. But it's
Christina Glickman:funny, I like to talk about Ted about the journey of it. And so
Christina Glickman:I feel like insert yourself into the story. Forget about Ted,
Christina Glickman:like, who cares if you want to do something like that great. If
Christina Glickman:you don't, who cares? The idea is just about, I truly became
Christina Glickman:somebody else through the process. And the end of the
Christina Glickman:result, for me was a feeling of that there was no place I don't
Christina Glickman:belong. And I couldn't, it has nothing to do with the
Christina Glickman:accomplishment of a TED Talk. It has everything to do with the
Christina Glickman:moment that I said, I think I want to do this. And so to kind
Christina Glickman:of like reverse a little bit, you know, I had about five years
Christina Glickman:ago decided that I needed more creativity in my life. And, and
Christina Glickman:I knew there's something more I wanted to do is I think a lot of
Christina Glickman:women just always like there's something else for me to do. And
Christina Glickman:again, to be clear, you don't have to, like start a business
Christina Glickman:or do something wild. But there's usually an ache of
Christina Glickman:something else that like, you know, what I was meant to do a
Christina Glickman:little bit more here than maybe parenting or we're not quite as
Christina Glickman:fulfilled as we'd like to be. And so for me, it was through
Christina Glickman:the filter of creativity. And out of that became the book and
Christina Glickman:a few things well cut to, I felt that I had a message burning
Christina Glickman:inside of me that I ultimately wanted women to sort of stand up
Christina Glickman:and understand that they have more to give if they're willing
Christina Glickman:to do it. And because we were in this pandemic world, the TED
Christina Glickman:talk is about women reclaiming their voices, and finding their
Christina Glickman:identity in the pandemic, because I think we've all seen
Christina Glickman:the articles that there's been this rally cry for women that we
Christina Glickman:are the ones that have suffered greatly during the pandemic. And
Christina Glickman:you know, you've got millions of women that left the workforce
Christina Glickman:and never came back. And I don't want to get into that rabbit
Christina Glickman:hole. But the reality is that you are then taking out of the
Christina Glickman:equation of our society, incredible minds, women that
Christina Glickman:were at tables that are no longer there, whether it's in
Christina Glickman:innovations or so. So we all took a step back. So the idea of
Christina Glickman:the talk was to just tap you on the shoulder and be like, hey,
Christina Glickman:like, I see you too. And it's not over. And by the way, all
Christina Glickman:those women that got us here aren't going to be too pleased
Christina Glickman:if the rest of us don't keep going. Right. Right. And so that
Christina Glickman:was the the hope of that talk. But the real journey of that
Christina Glickman:was, I think, and just from my personal standpoint, that
Christina Glickman:because I was on this sort of career path of being a speaker.
Christina Glickman:I felt like I needed TED to feel important. I felt like I needed
Christina Glickman:to say I'm a TEDx speaker. That was my original ego driven goal
Christina Glickman:of it. And I knew how hard it was to achieve and I wanted that
Christina Glickman:really bad. And so when I for me, I had to go through this
Christina Glickman:interview process and that was all difficult. But the funny
Christina Glickman:part is by the time I got to the very end of that red.it was no
Christina Glickman:longer even about that Tada moment anymore. It was all about
Christina Glickman:the fact that it was so hard for me. I wanted to give 1000 times,
Christina Glickman:I was like, why am I doing this, all those things and, you know,
Christina Glickman:the ripple effect of my children being able to see me putting
Christina Glickman:myself out there. And, you know, if you've talked to people that
Christina Glickman:have done Ted it, for some reason, even as somebody that's
Christina Glickman:a speaker, it is the most vulnerable thing you can do,
Christina Glickman:because you're up there without a piece of paper in hand, and
Christina Glickman:it's just you. And it was different because it's your
Christina Glickman:story. And there's just something different about it.
Christina Glickman:But but to kind of get back to your question a little bit. I
Christina Glickman:think the biggest thing i'd love people to take away from Ted is,
Christina Glickman:if you want something, try to go for it, whatever it is. And in,
Christina Glickman:it's not actually about getting it. It's about just saying yes
Christina Glickman:to yourself, and I share with my community along the way, how
Christina Glickman:difficult it was to go through that process. And I would get
Christina Glickman:messages from people saying, you know, it's so great to see you
Christina Glickman:put yourself out there, maybe now I'll go try to get that
Christina Glickman:position at XYZ. So, again, it's the story of when we share one
Christina Glickman:another, that makes me say, you can do it. Well, I can do it,
Christina Glickman:too.
Maureen Spielman:Yeah. And I think a lot of people saying
Maureen Spielman:that, you know, you'll always hear that. If I can do it. You
Maureen Spielman:can do Yeah, yeah, I think like, yeah, right. We it seems so easy
Maureen Spielman:to you, right? Of course that was, but you're saying no, the
Maureen Spielman:process was actually, it was pretty intense. No,
Christina Glickman:I mean, it was awful. It was awful. And,
Christina Glickman:and I mean, I was like praying for COVID to hit so that it
Christina Glickman:would be shut down. Like that's how much I didn't want to do it
Christina Glickman:anymore. And I and nothing that good comes that easy, right?
Christina Glickman:Even when you think it is. And the other thing that I also
Christina Glickman:wanted to just have other people feel is that everything's
Christina Glickman:available to you? Yes. So if you don't think it is, I'm sorry,
Christina Glickman:but it's an excuse. Because if you want it, you're gonna get
Christina Glickman:it, and you're gonna do it. And so you're hiding behind it. And
Christina Glickman:whatever the reality is, and so making movement towards whatever
Christina Glickman:that goal is, because that is for me, I think the thing that
Christina Glickman:makes me craziest is that, you know, we have one life here,
Christina Glickman:period. And are you creating life? Or are you letting life
Christina Glickman:create you? And I don't want to go through the motions. I don't
Christina Glickman:want to just wake up in five years and say, Well, what just
Christina Glickman:happened? Yes.
Maureen Spielman:And five years went by, I had seen a quote the
Maureen Spielman:other day, I'm not going to get it right. But it was on social
Maureen Spielman:media. And someone said, like, make sure you're in the rooms,
Maureen Spielman:with the people having the conversations that bring you
Maureen Spielman:higher, and that's the work you're doing. And I even think
Maureen Spielman:like a conversation like this, is that so? Oh, yes, give the
Maureen Spielman:permission that sometimes we don't know we can give
Maureen Spielman:ourselves. Yeah, and I think
Christina Glickman:it also, it also starts with, for me getting
Christina Glickman:very real in the past few years. And I know this will resonate
Christina Glickman:with you about protecting my energy. And I didn't realize
Christina Glickman:that commodity I was giving away so freely. And so I started to
Christina Glickman:do this thing every week, which I do every Sunday called the IQ
Christina Glickman:test. And I have a paper calendar because I'm like a
Christina Glickman:dinosaur and archaic and I like to see things written out. And I
Christina Glickman:sit there and I look at my week and I say what are the things
Christina Glickman:that make my stomach hurt? Like, what is on my calendar that I
Christina Glickman:don't want to do? Now again, it's life. I know, we have
Christina Glickman:things we don't want to do. But in general, am I saying yes to a
Christina Glickman:coffee that doesn't like fill my soul? Because I'm just sitting
Christina Glickman:there asking the questions and not receiving anything back? Am
Christina Glickman:I Am I saying yes to volunteering, because I don't
Christina Glickman:want somebody to think I'm not a nice person. Am I? What am I
Christina Glickman:doing in my life that is getting me further away from how I want
Christina Glickman:to feel at the end of the day, because that's how I've
Christina Glickman:transferred my brain like it's no longer what did I get done
Christina Glickman:today? Or how productive I was. It's like I don't want to feel
Christina Glickman:at the end of the day. And for me, I always want to feel, first
Christina Glickman:of all that the people that I love know that I love them. Like
Christina Glickman:that's never as generic as it is. It's never gonna go away.
Christina Glickman:Some days. I'm not so good at it. Some days I'm good at you
Christina Glickman:know, so it's a balance, but going through that now has
Christina Glickman:changed my life dramatically. Because when I look at my week
Christina Glickman:ahead, like, again, not to sound funny. I adore you. I love the
Christina Glickman:work you're doing I get to be on your podcast, which is an honor
Christina Glickman:and privilege for me. I wouldn't have said yes. If I didn't feel
Christina Glickman:that. Yeah. Whereas before, I would just say yes, yes, yes,
Christina Glickman:yes. Yes. Yes. Now, it's like, no, I look forward to it. I
Christina Glickman:can't wait to spend time with you. And so I always say now
Christina Glickman:that if I'm with you, you know, I really want to be there.
Christina Glickman:Right? Yeah, no question.
Maureen Spielman:I love I love the practice. I similarly, I
Maureen Spielman:have been on that journey. And man, I just say it's not always
Maureen Spielman:easy to to guard your time as that resource. Your energy is
Maureen Spielman:that resource and I think is we are stepping into more and more
Maureen Spielman:worthiness and then we'll see a rise in that as well. That's
Maureen Spielman:been my experience and I was always the classic over giver
Maureen Spielman:and I know so many listening. Oh identify It's like,
Christina Glickman:it's like in our DNA. And, and the reality
Christina Glickman:is, though, if you if you stop for a moment and you say to
Christina Glickman:yourself, one, who am I surrounding myself with? And
Christina Glickman:where? And are they draining my energy? Or are they adding value
Christina Glickman:to it? Or this is not a selfish thing? Doesn't mean you can't be
Christina Glickman:there for a friend and listen for an hour. It has nothing to
Christina Glickman:do with you. It's not about that it's about we're probably
Christina Glickman:putting it in the wrong places. Yes. And then ask yourself why,
Christina Glickman:okay, because I want to be liked, or I want to, and again,
Christina Glickman:there's no, there's no shame here, there's no, we're not
Christina Glickman:doing anything wrong. But there's also this idea,
Christina Glickman:especially as women that we need to fill the space, like, if you
Christina Glickman:had a day where you weren't running around, you'd think
Christina Glickman:you're gonna fill it. But the reality is that you also don't
Christina Glickman:have to explain your time away, like your times your time. So it
Christina Glickman:doesn't have to, you don't have to deserve an earn it like, oh,
Christina Glickman:my gosh, I'm gonna get a massage tomorrow, because I worked so
Christina Glickman:hard last week, and I don't know, like, I'm loving of this
Christina Glickman:as it is, for me, that's all just a retraining. I don't It's
Christina Glickman:not how I operate. I, I sort of, I always wanted to be that I
Christina Glickman:like I said in my TED talk, the Real Life series, I wanted you
Christina Glickman:to know that I was valuable and important and available. And
Christina Glickman:that's how I pride. I used to pride myself, and I want you to
Christina Glickman:think that I am so busy, and I've got so much going on. And I
Christina Glickman:have got that gave me worse. And so now when people sometimes
Christina Glickman:leave me a message and say, Oh, I know you're so busy. I'm like,
Christina Glickman:No, I'm actually not so busy. I'm doing what I love my time
Christina Glickman:now I've got a lot of things going on. But they're all things
Christina Glickman:I love to do. It's beautiful. And again, I check myself
Christina Glickman:though, when I find myself doing the other things. I always say,
Christina Glickman:Well, why are you doing it, Christina? Okay, I'm doing it
Christina Glickman:because I want to feel important. I'm doing it because
Christina Glickman:I want to be liked. And again, no shame, but just a wheel with
Christina Glickman:yourself. Yeah. And while you're doing it,
Maureen Spielman:and like you're saying those things are
Maureen Spielman:ingrained. And sometimes we're just doing them by default. So
Maureen Spielman:taking that middle step of the why is such a powerful question
Maureen Spielman:and and being so intentional. On a Sunday with your calendar.
Maureen Spielman:Yeah. Because then I know, I'm guessing that there's more inner
Maureen Spielman:peace. And then there's more almost like, almost like clean
Maureen Spielman:energy to give people you want, including your children and your
Maureen Spielman:husband, and
Christina Glickman:there's no dread heaven, we spent enough
Christina Glickman:time dreading a week. Yeah, like it's funny when when, again, I
Christina Glickman:don't mean this. To make anyone feel bad, but when when people
Christina Glickman:talk about like, you know, I got a message from a friend the
Christina Glickman:other day saying, Oh, my gosh, I can't wait for the weekend, you
Christina Glickman:know, the only happy two days of my week, right? I was like, Oh,
Christina Glickman:yeah. And I understand why she got I know, I understand all the
Christina Glickman:things she has going on. So it's all valid, but it's like, oh, my
Christina Glickman:gosh, I don't want to wish my days away. Yeah. And again,
Christina Glickman:don't get me wrong, I get life as hard. I don't like sit on a
Christina Glickman:rainbow. But in general, I want to have the agency to choose
Christina Glickman:where I'm putting my time. And and so if in fact, you're in
Christina Glickman:that moment of time, I guess I would love for everyone to say
Christina Glickman:how do I get a little bit closer to a little bit more peace?
Christina Glickman:Because now I don't look at my week and in general dread
Christina Glickman:anything or wish it away, or I can't wait to get to Friday. And
Christina Glickman:of course I projects and things that are stressful. But I mean,
Christina Glickman:in general, there's not like, Oh, I gotta do this. And I got
Christina Glickman:to do that. I don't have that feeling anymore. And I did for
Christina Glickman:years. Absolute years. Yes,
Maureen Spielman:I know. And the transformation is such a
Maureen Spielman:beautiful thing to see. And when you're just saying, like,
Maureen Spielman:listen, I know, and I'm not sitting on a rainbow, because I
Maureen Spielman:know you've gone through challenges, but it's being able
Maureen Spielman:to sit in those. Yeah. And, and sit really sit and ponder and
Maureen Spielman:ask the questions of why is this here for me? This is has to be
Maureen Spielman:something that's contributing to my greater growth, as painful as
Maureen Spielman:it is. And it's just like the I think you use the word
Maureen Spielman:curiosity, or just the willingness, the curiosity to
Maureen Spielman:say, Why is this here? For me? It's here for my growth and
Maureen Spielman:transformation. Yeah.
Christina Glickman:Also, I also think, especially as women that
Christina Glickman:sometimes we need to be reminded, and sometimes it's our
Christina Glickman:friends that remind us, you have a choice. Right, like we're on
Christina Glickman:that wheel, and we're doing doing and I mean, it sounds so
Christina Glickman:silly, but, you know, my husband's on a big travel for
Christina Glickman:for work. And I had mentioned to my daughter that she you know,
Christina Glickman:couldn't go to this practice that was important. And I would
Christina Glickman:never have done that before because I didn't think there was
Christina Glickman:a choice. I wouldn't want to upset her. I want to be able to
Christina Glickman:her to do things but it actually was not working for our family
Christina Glickman:for like 10 reasons. And so I just talked her about and it was
Christina Glickman:fine. But I don't think before I would have thought I would have
Christina Glickman:choice. I would have made myself crazy. I would have done all
Christina Glickman:these crazy things all for this thing. And I stopped myself
Christina Glickman:often and I say you have a choice. You might not like the
Christina Glickman:consequences of it or but you have a choice that happening to
Christina Glickman:me. I I'm creating it.
Maureen Spielman:Yes, I think that that is the really clear,
Maureen Spielman:smaller example of rewriting the story than you used to be in and
Maureen Spielman:I'm, I'm with you, because I'm still learning. My kids are
Maureen Spielman:older. They're 22. And I'm, I'm learning, communication. I'm
Maureen Spielman:learning boundaries. I'm learning, investing in my own
Maureen Spielman:energy. I'm learning worthiness like that's why I will always
Maureen Spielman:say to anyone listening, let's hold hands and go through this
Maureen Spielman:together, because we're all human. We're all doing the work.
Maureen Spielman:And, and we're all figured out. Yeah, we're at different places,
Maureen Spielman:but we're not. Right.
Unknown:I couldn't agree with you more.
Maureen Spielman:Yeah. So I love that because that's
Maureen Spielman:actually, it's so seemingly, a small choice you made? Yeah, but
Maureen Spielman:it's not. It's not
Christina Glickman:done online. But it's a bigger thing, which
Christina Glickman:is, oh, my gosh, she's a mother, am I not doing all the things I
Christina Glickman:could be doing for my it unlocks all these crazy things, which is
Christina Glickman:just ridiculous. But again, I think the ripple effect is
Christina Glickman:showing if you have children, showing them that how do I think
Christina Glickman:operate, operate with this authenticity, and a greater good
Christina Glickman:and how it impacts other people. Like, there's just so much other
Christina Glickman:beauty to it than being like a martyr. I got to do all these
Christina Glickman:things, like and I did that for years, like I played that
Christina Glickman:Cinderella card. I don't think it was on purpose. But that's
Christina Glickman:just what I did. Now I'm actually embarrassed by an
Christina Glickman:exhaustion, meaning that's my fault for getting there. Like,
Christina Glickman:get it in check. And so I'm not like a little bit if things
Christina Glickman:aren't going well in that way. And please, no, I don't mean
Christina Glickman:illnesses and things that are very, very traumatic. I mean, in
Christina Glickman:everyday life, it's like, get it, you know, clean up your side
Christina Glickman:of the street, get it in check here. And that's a big thing.
Christina Glickman:And I will just always say, just do one tiny thing. Does that
Christina Glickman:mean? Maybe you're gonna take shower today? Does that mean?
Christina Glickman:Maybe you're gonna make an extra cup of coffee for yourself? Does
Christina Glickman:it mean you might leave a note for your friend? Because you've
Christina Glickman:been thinking about them? Like, I'm not talking big and
Christina Glickman:dramatic? I'm talking about the smaller things because today's
Christina Glickman:it? Like, there's kind of no waiting. There's no like Teddy
Christina Glickman:Bear parade, magical unicorn rain outside my house like
Christina Glickman:today, is it? Like we're here?
Maureen Spielman:Yeah, just take the day, what is going to
Maureen Spielman:be my choices will be how I play out today. But I love that
Maureen Spielman:because you know, you just shared a lot. And you are your
Maureen Spielman:kids can look at you as a woman who's invested in her own
Maureen Spielman:growth. I mean, what could even be more beautiful. But also back
Maureen Spielman:to your other point? Your because some things are still
Maureen Spielman:doing right? You're, you're building your extra love army,
Maureen Spielman:you're recording your podcast, doing your business coaching,
Maureen Spielman:but the restoration, the restoration is like the piece
Maureen Spielman:that we've been missing for a long time. And
Christina Glickman:not apologizing for it. And that and
Christina Glickman:that's, you know, that's in my house. We all have to work on it
Christina Glickman:constantly. Because I've I've sadly trained my children to be
Christina Glickman:that way. Oh, mama, I'm so sorry. For an eye. Yeah, hey,
Christina Glickman:when we stop it, and I, I just channeled over instead to say
Christina Glickman:thank you for waiting, don't apologize. They just say thank
Christina Glickman:you for waiting, like, try to flip it. And I catch myself too.
Christina Glickman:But you know, this these are, you know, years and years and
Christina Glickman:years of systemic issues that we all carry. And I think it just
Christina Glickman:starts though, in these conversations in our own homes,
Christina Glickman:slowly as we move through our day. And I think that's how we
Christina Glickman:impact one another. If it gets bigger than that, then I feel
Christina Glickman:like I don't even have a role because I can't change anything.
Maureen Spielman:Yeah, but yeah, I love that. Because also,
Maureen Spielman:you know, talk about what you've created around the extra love
Maureen Spielman:arm me because these kinds of conversations and people's real
Maureen Spielman:experiences, I'm guessing really get to be shared there. And it's
Maureen Spielman:just like that meeting, meeting you where you're at? Yeah,
Christina Glickman:it is. And I love that because I always say,
Christina Glickman:you know, meet me where I'm at, not where you want me to be. And
Christina Glickman:the extra love army was created during the pandemic. And again,
Christina Glickman:I always go backwards. I didn't have this grand plan. But it was
Christina Glickman:during the pandemic where I felt like women were missing
Christina Glickman:conversation. And so I opened the doors and said, This is
Christina Glickman:going to be a safe space for women to share about what's
Christina Glickman:happening in their everyday lives and truly just their own
Christina Glickman:kind of like a you know, their own hype woman squad, or, or
Christina Glickman:whatever it might be, whether it was about entrepreneurship or
Christina Glickman:parenting or motherhood, or, you know, anything and everything.
Christina Glickman:And so each month we have a theme, whatever it might be, I
Christina Glickman:don't know what this month's theme. I think this one month's
Christina Glickman:theme is about like, what are you calling in? And so it's just
Christina Glickman:a constant conversation that I think women just want to share
Christina Glickman:with one another in a safe space about whatever it is that
Christina Glickman:they're trying to do. Or maybe they're walking through grief.
Christina Glickman:Or maybe they are having a tough time in their relationship.
Christina Glickman:Because it's all connected. It's your sisterhood. It's what
Christina Glickman:you're doing here. And the more and more than we create these
Christina Glickman:containers for all of us, that's a beautiful gift. And people
Christina Glickman:find their space. And we need more and more. Right?
Maureen Spielman:We do. I've heard so many people say there
Maureen Spielman:are 7 billion people on the planet. Why? Right? Yeah, mind
Maureen Spielman:blowing. So the conversations are so key and crucial. And I
Maureen Spielman:think redefining the conversations that we're having,
Maureen Spielman:and, and really, I think a lot of time, when you get in these
Maureen Spielman:spaces, the conversation can go deep, real fast. And, and
Maureen Spielman:people, people are craving it, I love that.
Christina Glickman:And the other thing, just to just to
Christina Glickman:your audience that I want to remind anybody of whatever
Christina Glickman:they're doing, whether it's interior design, or whatever it
Christina Glickman:might be like we need you. And so I always say like I'm a dime
Christina Glickman:a dozen the things I've been talking about for years now. I
Christina Glickman:mean, I'm just saying I this is no rocket science here. But what
Christina Glickman:is different is me, what's different is you what's
Christina Glickman:different is anybody bringing themselves to the table, and we
Christina Glickman:need them. And so just a reminder, like, you know,
Christina Glickman:because again, some of the clients that I work with, like,
Christina Glickman:Oh, should I do a podcast? Everybody has a podcast, I do a
Christina Glickman:book everybody, you know, people have books. It's always like,
Christina Glickman:you have to strip all that away and stay in your own lane and
Christina Glickman:say, What is your intention and the message that you're hoping
Christina Glickman:to put out into the world? And is that right for you?
Christina Glickman:Otherwise, we we've stopped herself before we got off the
Christina Glickman:block? Yeah, because it right. And that's a very common thing
Christina Glickman:to do. And so again, I just want to say how proud I am of you of
Christina Glickman:stepping into this work and doing the things that we all
Christina Glickman:need? Because we need everybody?
Maureen Spielman:Yeah. Yeah. I love that. I and I think that to
Maureen Spielman:your point, everyone's voice is needed. And our voices come from
Maureen Spielman:our life experiences. Yeah. And everyone's life experience is
Maureen Spielman:different, we might have commonalities that we can share.
Maureen Spielman:Yeah, we're so different. And we have different vibrations. And
Maureen Spielman:yes, different energies will be attracted. But you know, when
Maureen Spielman:you were saying something earlier about? Well, even your
Maureen Spielman:your business coaching clients is like, Oh, here's this like a
Maureen Spielman:array of things you can do. But I found, listen to your
Maureen Spielman:intuition. Listen to that. Some people call it the small still
Maureen Spielman:voice sometimes I think it's the big loud voice. Sure, it will
Maureen Spielman:lead you, it will lead you and it's like, which one are you
Maureen Spielman:feeling most drawn to? And I was something you said earlier
Maureen Spielman:about? You know, you could not not do this the work that you
Maureen Spielman:stepped into. And even though it may even the TED Talk, even
Maureen Spielman:though it was overwhelming, something was pulling you for
Maureen Spielman:right. I always think of that as the universe. It's like, calm,
Maureen Spielman:calm.
Christina Glickman:and I are having a stage right now of
Christina Glickman:really practicing listening to what the universe is inviting
Christina Glickman:in, get trying to get trying to get better at that. But I think
Christina Glickman:you're right. And the other question I would ask yourself in
Christina Glickman:general is like, is it harder not to do something than to do
Christina Glickman:it? Because life's gonna march on anyways? Yeah, so a lot of
Christina Glickman:times, again, resistance, we have resistance to most
Christina Glickman:everything and a lot of ways. But that resistance to me is the
Christina Glickman:invitation to do it. And, and so that's what I try to listen to.
Christina Glickman:And if I if it's too big, and too, I can't get my head around
Christina Glickman:it. I always say what's the next next best thing I can do to get
Christina Glickman:closer to it? I find myself often not knowing how to do it.
Christina Glickman:Like in general, I'm like, Well, that sounds great. But I don't I
Christina Glickman:do that like all the time. And so like, what's the first thing
Christina Glickman:which is usually like a Google because I really don't know how
Christina Glickman:to do a lot of things. And but again, movement is hope. Right?
Christina Glickman:So just that little movement is is what makes us like have a
Christina Glickman:more skipping our step. We actually want to make dinner and
Christina Glickman:go on with our day, because you're pouring into yourself.
Christina Glickman:And so many of us don't, because we either don't know what to do,
Christina Glickman:or maybe we don't really feel that we deserve that or, and to
Christina Glickman:me, that's just so sad. Like I want every woman to feel a sense
Christina Glickman:of intention. Absolutely, in some way.
Maureen Spielman:And that's I think that that's I don't know
Maureen Spielman:how you got through it when you were preparing for the TED Talk.
Maureen Spielman:And it was so challenging for you. But the support and the
Maureen Spielman:groups and the conversations and you're safe people. Yeah,
Maureen Spielman:they're golden to getting where we need to take the one step
Maureen Spielman:after the other and that the steps that we take, they're
Maureen Spielman:invisible to us sometimes. So like you're saying, you know, do
Maureen Spielman:the self care, do the you know, take care of the little steps.
Maureen Spielman:Even if it's twice a week, not once a day, no,
Christina Glickman:sure. Yeah, I mean, we're not we're not
Christina Glickman:meant to do this alone, that's for sure. And if you are, that's
Christina Glickman:super hard. And, you know, I think the other thing is that
Christina Glickman:there is an invisible transformation that happens that
Christina Glickman:most of the time we don't see until much further down the
Christina Glickman:road. And at the same time, that's where that universe comes
Christina Glickman:in for me of saying, I need to trust that my success will be
Christina Glickman:inevitable, I need to trust that, that what is meant for me
Christina Glickman:is where I am headed. There's just a lot of trust. And I
Christina Glickman:always say, the opposite of it really sucks. So let's blow
Christina Glickman:sunshine up my own self here. I'd rather live in there. I
Christina Glickman:mean, what's the opposite saying, Oh, that is not meant
Christina Glickman:for me. It's gonna totally suck. I really think that it's gonna
Christina Glickman:be okay. I mean, I don't know, there's there's just for me, I
Christina Glickman:can't operate in a different energy. That makes me not want
Christina Glickman:to do anything. Yeah. Yeah. And, and I know why we a lot of us
Christina Glickman:feel that way. But it's doing that work to have that trust, I
Christina Glickman:guess I say universe, because that's for me spiritually where
Christina Glickman:I go, but I don't know, I but also, maybe you can give me some
Christina Glickman:advice. I've also been walking around like looking for signs,
Christina Glickman:I'm laughing at myself, because I don't really know what that
Christina Glickman:means. But I'm always like, give me this time.
Maureen Spielman:And there they are. They just like coming.
Maureen Spielman:They're coming. They're coming. If you listen to Valerie, what's
Maureen Spielman:podcast a couple of weeks ago, they are coming. They're there
Maureen Spielman:for us all the time. And they're there for us when we least
Maureen Spielman:expect it. And I think that it's being able to also decipher the
Maureen Spielman:science and that it's almost like a dream. You know, like
Maureen Spielman:what? Dreams? It's not exactly what it seems like it is right?
Maureen Spielman:Not the literal interpretation. But yeah, I think the more that
Maureen Spielman:I say to the universe, I'm open to the signs I start my day that
Maureen Spielman:way. Yeah. But am I here to know, and I can have a day where
Maureen Spielman:I don't feel like I see any or hear any or whatever it is. But
Maureen Spielman:you might also be receiving it in different ways. So for you,
Maureen Spielman:it might not just be coming through a visual sign that you
Maureen Spielman:see, you know, on the supermarket grounds, you know,
Maureen Spielman:something you just went over? It could be you're hearing it, and
Maureen Spielman:you get your messages that way. So those are signs to I think,
Maureen Spielman:yeah,
Christina Glickman:like that. Well, you know, I will say to
Christina Glickman:that, as I'm sort of, I think like tuning up my spidey senses
Christina Glickman:to the universe. I also feel like I've been practicing a lot
Christina Glickman:of grace when, when I when I don't feel settled are familiar
Christina Glickman:or like it's okay to not be okay, I guess is the thing,
Christina Glickman:meaning. I trust that my flow will come. So if I wake up one
Christina Glickman:day, and I'm not in that energy, which we all know when we're not
Christina Glickman:in that energy. I don't force myself anymore. I just say like,
Christina Glickman:Okay, so today, like, maybe I haven't an off day, or maybe
Christina Glickman:today's not feeling whatever reason, and I just kind of like,
Christina Glickman:let that go with instead, I used to just push, push, push to make
Christina Glickman:myself be something or do something. And now it's like,
Christina Glickman:no, I'm like, not feeling it.
Maureen Spielman:Absolutely. Like, that's why I think that on
Maureen Spielman:the journey, the reminders to each other, not only for the
Maureen Spielman:restoration, but for the self compassion. Yeah, that's a big
Maureen Spielman:one for me, because I had just said it in another recording I
Maureen Spielman:did. But I spent so many years not knowing what I was doing.
Maureen Spielman:And I had, I think I did have this deep yearning in me. But I
Maureen Spielman:was also operating from real survival places within myself.
Maureen Spielman:And feeling such overwhelmed from early mothering feeling
Maureen Spielman:like this, like story, like, I don't know what I meant to be
Maureen Spielman:doing. And it was, oh, it was tough going there for years.
Maureen Spielman:Yeah. You know, and that was, that was layers of myself that
Maureen Spielman:through the work, like I've been able to let go of and, and
Maureen Spielman:really, sort of own you got to Oh, but you also have to have
Maureen Spielman:that compassion, and I, and I really try to turn that on
Maureen Spielman:myself and be like, so for those days you're talking about and
Maureen Spielman:like, just Yeah, yeah, I see you. You need a rest today,
Maureen Spielman:because that could be all the universes. Dominus?
Christina Glickman:Yeah. And I think you said something really
Christina Glickman:important too, which is the idea of like, you know, what's your
Christina Glickman:story? And what are you meant to do and all those things and that
Christina Glickman:those are so hard, and I think sometimes can be a very
Christina Glickman:unmotivated thing. Again, a lot of the women that I work with
Christina Glickman:sometimes say, like, well, I don't even know why I'm meeting
Christina Glickman:with you. I don't know what I want to do. I don't know what
Christina Glickman:I'm doing. And I always say like, we're not trying to figure
Christina Glickman:that out. We're trying to have movement into the next day space
Christina Glickman:thing. It's almost like I always like to say, you know, what's
Christina Glickman:your moment right now, instead of like, what's your story? And
Christina Glickman:what's your that's so big? I can't answer that. I get
Christina Glickman:overwhelmed. When somebody says to me, Well, what do you do? I'm
Christina Glickman:always like, Oh, my God, I get overwhelmed. Right? That's a big
Christina Glickman:question. And I think, again, that's why your podcast and
Christina Glickman:talking about this one sentence will change somebody's
Christina Glickman:narrative. And he heard it from you. And so it just all that
Christina Glickman:it's all it takes, right, those little moments that we hear that
Christina Glickman:go, oh, my gosh, remember that person said that, and for
Christina Glickman:whatever reason that lands on them, didn't land on someone
Christina Glickman:else. But you being vulnerable enough and courageous enough to
Christina Glickman:put yourself out there has opened up a narrative that
Christina Glickman:otherwise wouldn't put a spotlight on a conversation that
Christina Glickman:really deserves APSET publication.
Maureen Spielman:Absolutely. Yeah. And I think that we have
Maureen Spielman:to know that we've all been there because it just reminds
Maureen Spielman:me, if you would have told me even a year ago, your podcast,
Maureen Spielman:I'll say No way. Yeah, indeed, I would say that I believe in
Maureen Spielman:infinite possibilities. But more there were just parts of myself
Maureen Spielman:that I had to get really comfortable with. And the whole
Maureen Spielman:kind of stepping out onto any sort of platform, even something
Maureen Spielman:like social media can feel revealing to ourselves. So have
Maureen Spielman:the conversations in with your safe people in your safe places.
Maureen Spielman:Create the safety within you to know that you're okay. You're
Maureen Spielman:You're perfect as you are. And the world needs you. It at the
Maureen Spielman:planet needs you. Yeah, sure does. Yeah. Well, I love that.
Maureen Spielman:Christina, is there anything else that comes to mind? Before
Maureen Spielman:we wrap up today?
Christina Glickman:No, I feel like we were kind of all over
Christina Glickman:the place. But I love that. And I think if anything for, you
Christina Glickman:know, for your audience, and this, this circle that you have
Christina Glickman:created and are creating, you know, I would just encourage and
Christina Glickman:invite others to bring somebody with you. And it's vulnerable
Christina Glickman:for even people to participate in conversation. And so, you
Christina Glickman:know, look outside yourself, and maybe lend a hand to somebody
Christina Glickman:that might need to be invited into something. Because I think
Christina Glickman:that we all are craving, as you said, these deep connections
Christina Glickman:right now,
Maureen Spielman:I love that too. Because with the deep need
Maureen Spielman:of the world right now, it is the it is the multiplying and
Maureen Spielman:the exponential. And that's I mean, I, I'm gonna say to the
Maureen Spielman:listeners to please, you know, I'm gonna have you share
Maureen Spielman:Christina, but check Christina's work out through her podcast,
Maureen Spielman:through her book through, you know, anywhere you can find her
Maureen Spielman:because I love the podcast and your bite size, it's you taking
Maureen Spielman:on a concept and infusing your experience with it, and then
Maureen Spielman:sharing the wisdom that came from it. And it's, it's really
Maureen Spielman:fun to listen to. And that's where i That's why I'm so
Maureen Spielman:attracted to you too, because you've got the the foundation of
Maureen Spielman:mystical sister hood is joy and healing and community and that
Maureen Spielman:those two things can co occur. I really believe they can. And
Maureen Spielman:that was born out of my health journey. And I'm like, Yes, I
Maureen Spielman:want them both. I want to do the healing work. I was a joy. So
Maureen Spielman:you
Christina Glickman:get to write Yeah, not just but isn't it
Christina Glickman:funny. And the last thing I'll say where you started in your
Christina Glickman:journey, right? And where you thought you were headed, and you
Christina Glickman:were wise enough to expand and grow and be around the right
Christina Glickman:people. And so it's kind of like, Don't ever stop that
Christina Glickman:curiosity, right. Don't ever think that either we can't or
Christina Glickman:right. And again, the only way that we I think have competence
Christina Glickman:to do this when we're surrounding ourselves by people
Christina Glickman:like you appro quite vital. So thank you for that. You do. And
Christina Glickman:thanks for having me today. Yes.
Maureen Spielman:So where can people find you, Christine?
Maureen Spielman:Where can
Christina Glickman:they find me? They I won't go down the
Christina Glickman:some of the places they can't find me these days. But you can
Christina Glickman:find me on Facebook. You can find me on LinkedIn, you can
Christina Glickman:find me through my podcast, as Maureen had mentioned, probably
Christina Glickman:will be in the show notes or something. And I have a weekly
Christina Glickman:newsletter. So you can always subscribe to that. And you know,
Christina Glickman:the blogs find each other
Maureen Spielman:beautiful. So I'll put it all in the show
Maureen Spielman:notes. I have to say a huge thank you. It's been so fun to
Maureen Spielman:talk to you today. So enlightening, and thanks so
Maureen Spielman:much. My pleasure is mine. Thanks for listening to this
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