June 28, 2023

Tuning Into The Vibration Of Healing With Jenna Brocious

Tuning Into The Vibration Of Healing With Jenna Brocious
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Season 1

Jenna Brocious, a Spiritually Intuitive Guide and all around amazing human being and soul, joins us today to talk about her life stories. Having been raised by an unavailable primary parent, Jenna learned to do what she needed to do to survive. When her world began to come into question around the time of her pregnancy, she knew that she had some healing to do. Today’s conversation was so real and so vulnerable and was so fun to record! Listen in and share if you feel called to do so. Thanks for being here!

EPISODE TAKEAWAYS (what you’ll learn):

  • Jenna’s journey of coming to her path
  • How Jenna adapted by becoming a people pleaser
  • The spiritual journey of healing from loss
  • How life is working in your favor
  • The power of positive intention prayer cards

About the Guest:

Jenna B is a wife, mother and spiritually intuitive. Jenna has worn many hats in life trying to find her own purpose outside of the home. Jenna feels her purpose is to help, heal and spread love to others. Having been raised by a single mom and not knowing her dad until the age of 36 Jenna has had many trials and tribulations. As she has said many times my mom taught me everything not to do in life. Talk about some great life lessons at a young age. Jenna decided to take what she learned at a young age and move forward with grace. Just because I came from a curtain life did not mean that was meant for me too. Life gave her lemons and she made lemonade (Jenna is a big fan of Beyonce). She never fit in and was kind of the odd ball out and would still consider herself not the norm but as an adult has grown to love and embrace it. Just because something bad has happened to you doesn’t mean that is who we are.

Find Jenna Here:

Website

Instagram

Link Of Interest: https://www.etsy.com/shop/JennaBSpiritual

About the Host:

Maureen Spielman is the Founder of Mystical Sisterhood, a podcast dedicated to bringing more joy, healing and expansion to the world. She is a seasoned life coach who supports individuals through one-on-one coaching, groups and workshops.

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Transcript
Maureen Spielman:

Hi and welcome back to mystical sisterhood.

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This is your host, Maureen Spielman. And today I sit down

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with Jenna brooches. This is a super fun spirited conversation.

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Jenna is a spiritually intuitive guide. And we talk about Janice

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past coming from trauma, and how she overcame adversity that she

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experienced early in her life. It's a really honest and raw

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conversation. And how it were was that, you know, trauma and

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what she had gone through as a young person that really led to

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her healing and transformation as an adult. And so we had a lot

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of fun. We laughed a lot. There's a lot of inspiration

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here. And I think that you're really going to enjoy it. So

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please listen to the episode and share with a friend if you feel

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called. See you in the episode. Hey there, welcome to mystical

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sisterhood. This is your host, Maureen Spielman. I started the

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show to highlight the intuitives, healers and other

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courageous women that I've met along my journey and continue to

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meet. Through amazing interviews, I seek to ask

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insightful questions to uncover ways in which you the listener

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can apply the wisdom and knowledge to your own life. I

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believe that we're all in this together. So sharing healing and

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joy, and bringing community together is both my passion and

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purpose. If you'd like to learn more about the mystical

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sisterhood community I'm building, please visit www

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mystical sisterhood.com See you in the episode.

Maureen Spielman:

Welcome back to mystical sisterhood. I'm very excited

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today to be sitting with Jenna Rocha, as I always like to say,

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where someone came to me. And it was through a networking group

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I'm part of called Pay mama. And

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Jenna's PR rep came to me and said, Hey, I think that you

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would be a great fit for Jenna and vice versa. So I said a big

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yes to that. I think that you as the listener are going to just

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lean into Jenna's story, I'm just wide eyed why to eared to

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find out what we're going to talk about to because it's going

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to be it's full of like, almost like magic and mystery and awe,

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like this space that we're creating today. So welcome,

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Jenna, I'll first say a big welcome to you.

Unknown:

Thank you, I'm already in tears that we haven't even

Unknown:

begun.

Maureen Spielman:

Yeah, I love that a space for vulnerability.

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And just to the right there. Just be with the emotions. And

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for us and for the listeners to know whatever comes. It's just

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always welcome. And just when when we're held in that safe

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space, that's when I think that magic can occur.

Unknown:

Absolutely, I totally agree.

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So I love how your website says I just had

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written down, that Jen has mission and true purpose in life

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is to help heal and spread more love to others. She loves to

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speak about the wisdom from lessons she has had to live

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through and overcome. Life is not always easy, but how we

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handle the situation dictates what comes next. Plus, knowing

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her faith, and God will carry her through. You can feel her

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love and dedication to this work of helping others and Jenna's

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energy is infectious. And so you know, this wide welcome. And

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just with me offering that which is from your website, where do

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you think is the most important place to begin?

Jenna Brocious:

Well, I think that all of the trauma and all

Jenna Brocious:

of the heart ache, and all of the things I had to endure have

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actually led me to the most beautiful place in my life. And

Jenna Brocious:

that is here right now where I get to share my story. And I get

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to help heal and spread more love is such a personal thing.

Jenna Brocious:

If I'm able to help somebody, and they're able to heal

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themselves, which is so important for them to heal

Jenna Brocious:

themselves. And then that healing really opens up more

Jenna Brocious:

love for yourself and for others. And so I love being able

Jenna Brocious:

to talk about stuff like this, because I think we all at the

Jenna Brocious:

end of the day are more alike than we allow ourselves to

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realize. And so I think it's so cool that we can sit here

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together as two women and share our stories, and still have love

Jenna Brocious:

and compassion for each other because I think those things

Jenna Brocious:

lack a lot these days. Yeah, yeah.

Maureen Spielman:

Yeah. And that remark of that we're more alike

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than we're not. That's the one thing as I was just told by an

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astrologer, like how deeply empathic or empathic wasn't the

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word was like, the way that I am in this lifetime is very, very

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emotional. And, and I kind of, I tend to lead with emotions, I

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tend to go there quickly. But in my life that wasn't always

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welcome. Or maybe I was told that that you know, you know, to

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quiet down or hide it. And so I also learned as I'm kind of

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wondering, you know, when you first it came to light for you

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that it was coming from within you within you that there was

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healing to be done. Because, for me, it was at a really young age

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where I felt a misalignment where I felt inner conflict

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where I felt a lot of disconnection. But then it took

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me even though I was taking steps towards it, it took me

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decades to get there. And for me, it ended up in a wake up

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call, but I'm wondering for you, like, when did you know? Was it

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when you were younger? Did things happen in your life that

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led you to this heart opening? Yeah, so.

Unknown:

Um, so I always knew what was going on around me as a

Unknown:

child was not normal or okay. But I really didn't start my

Unknown:

journey of healing until I got pregnant. And I'm the oldest of

Unknown:

three. And I thought maybe for the first time ever, my mom was

Unknown:

going to actually step up to the plate and be a mother because I

Unknown:

was pregnant. And this was such a beautiful thing to be

Unknown:

celebrating. And I just got disappointed every time she

Unknown:

didn't call or she didn't ask the right questions. And so my

Unknown:

husband, one day just goes, you can't hold her to an expectation

Unknown:

she never agreed to. And the light bulb in my head just went

Unknown:

off because my mom was 22, and didn't really want to have me

Unknown:

but she had no other option at that point in time in her life.

Unknown:

And so she didn't really agree to be a mother, she got thrown

Unknown:

into the life of it all. And so when she didn't show up in the

Unknown:

grandmother way that I had hoped, I really had to look at

Unknown:

the whole story all over again. And that's what Cav catalyst did

Unknown:

all of the healing. And it's been eight years of this

Unknown:

journey. And I just had a big breakthrough last week that was

Unknown:

still attached to her. And I'm like, How does this keep

Unknown:

unfolding? And does the unfolding never stop? I'm

Unknown:

unsure.

Maureen Spielman:

I don't think it does. Because there's so much

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on layering. It's fascinating that that message came through

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your husband of like, wow, you know, reality check, or whatever

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you call it here. But then that you were open to the self

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reflection of Wait a minute, what about what am I what am I

Maureen Spielman:

misunderstanding here? Or what Am I misinterpreting? So did

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that then lead you to like, wait a minute, is there parts of my

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past year to be reconciled? Or what was the beginning of that

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path? You know, it kind

Unknown:

of halted at that point in my pregnancy. But I think

Unknown:

once I became a mother, and I realized how much I loved this

Unknown:

little person, I almost got angry at my mom all over again.

Unknown:

Because I was like, how could you have done and put me through

Unknown:

the things you had put me through, if you loved me the way

Unknown:

I love my son. And so I really had to start working on myself

Unknown:

because the anger I wasn't going to allow to take over. And so I

Unknown:

had to start the journey. And so it was slow steps and slow. And

Unknown:

you know, you kind of get a little bit more comfortable in

Unknown:

the world of healing and how to figure out how to heal yourself.

Unknown:

And you find the right people to help you guide you along the

Unknown:

way. And I feel very blessed because I, I don't want to live

Unknown:

in anger or hurt. I want to live in happiness and joy and love

Unknown:

and forgiveness and compassion. That's truly where I want to

Unknown:

live. And those are the words that I have for my mother today.

Unknown:

Because when I look back at her childhood, she had a horrible

Unknown:

hard childhood as well. So she you know, she wasn't raised by

Unknown:

the best people ever on the planet and then decided to make

Unknown:

a bad decision with me. She did the best with what she had

Unknown:

before. So,

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so true. And I think that when sometimes when

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we talk about our paths, people can say, well, they were, like,

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almost defensive of their parents. And I think when we put

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out there like it's all okay, it's not, it's not in judgment,

Maureen Spielman:

that we're coming to our paths, because you're right, they were

Maureen Spielman:

they were doing the best they could. And it doesn't mean that

Maureen Spielman:

we deprive ourselves of the healing that wants to come from

Maureen Spielman:

that. Does that make sense?

Unknown:

100% Yes. 100% Yeah, it's actually an issue in my

Unknown:

family because I am speaking about my childhood. I have a

Unknown:

couple of family members that are not pleased with me because

Unknown:

of it. But you know, I don't care because I feel 100% I'm in

Unknown:

the right place doing the right thing right now. And so I move

Unknown:

forward with whatever my heart tells me to do.

Maureen Spielman:

And what you were just talking about, like

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those, the joy, the happiness, the abundance, those kinds of,

Maureen Spielman:

they feel like they're almost like a Northstar to you. Like,

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I'm, that's a non negotiable for me, I'm going there and I'm

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gonna I, I always feel like with this kind of work and what we're

Maureen Spielman:

called to do, I always feel like it's a magnet pulling me forward

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almost from my heart center where we you can't do you, we

Maureen Spielman:

could try to deny it right. And we could try to just like not do

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what you're being called to do. But it does feel like a non

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negotiable?

Unknown:

Well, I think they make and I say they spirit God,

Unknown:

whatever we want to call it, I feel like they will push you or

Unknown:

get your attention until you really sit down and focus on it.

Unknown:

That was at least my example. I just like they were throwing it

Unknown:

in my face until I couldn't deny the spirituality that I had not

Unknown:

known about before. And so I'm I love I like have gratitude to my

Unknown:

angels and spirit guides all the time for having made it so

Unknown:

obvious of what I needed.

Maureen Spielman:

Well, we talk a lot about that on this podcast

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is that the whatever you call it, whatever. It's the the

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inner, the inner guidance, the outer guidance, some people say

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it's that that through line like it's, it's, it's one in the same

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it's and if we talk about I was just reading last night about

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how we are that microcosm in ourselves of the macrocosm of

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the universe. And so it's that I was reading about shadow work,

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and that we have all the parts inside of us, even the parts

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that drive us crazy about other people, they actually exist

Maureen Spielman:

inside of us. And that kind of reminds me like when you it

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feels like you haven't said much about the journey with your mom,

Maureen Spielman:

but that you are able, I think what I hear you saying is you

Maureen Spielman:

are able to put compassion there now more understanding where in

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the beginning, I almost feel like we have to work through

Maureen Spielman:

those raw emotions, whether they're anger or resentment or

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just rage even that wants to come out of us.

Unknown:

Yeah. And I think that that's part of the journey as

Unknown:

well. And if we don't hold space for that we're missing out as

Unknown:

well. I think the anger and the frustration is something that I

Unknown:

also don't want to boil up within me. So I appreciate those

Unknown:

years of that hatred and that anger and that rage. I'm just

Unknown:

grateful that I was able to get to the other side, because the

Unknown:

other side is way better.

Maureen Spielman:

Yeah, because you can people can get stuck for

Maureen Spielman:

a lifetime, and not kind of ever fulfill that kind of part of

Maureen Spielman:

their soul contract. Now, you know, Jenna, what you went

Maureen Spielman:

through as a young child? Is that something that you want to

Maureen Spielman:

go into? So people have that relational point? Or, you know,

Maureen Spielman:

how does that feels to hear? Yeah, I

Unknown:

mean, I'm, I'm an open book, because I again, I feel

Unknown:

like it's part of my purpose to share the wildness that I

Unknown:

occurred that occurred. And so I just, I'm not ashamed of it. I,

Unknown:

I am very strong because of it. And so you may ask us many

Unknown:

questions.

Maureen Spielman:

Yeah, I don't know. What do you what was your

Maureen Spielman:

experience of your childhood? I guess I just ask it broadly.

Unknown:

Totally. Um, so I was raised by a single woman who was

Unknown:

22. And she had me. Let's see, I didn't know who my father was

Unknown:

until the age of 36. So that was always a really hard point. For

Unknown:

me. My mom has been married multiple times. And at one

Unknown:

point, she was with a motorcycle gang member, which was quite

Unknown:

interesting to say the least I was exposed to more things than

Unknown:

I hope most children are exposed to. But you know, she was a

Unknown:

narcissist and an alcoholic and she lost custody of both of her

Unknown:

other two children because the their fathers took them away

Unknown:

from the situation and I was left behind. And it was it was

Unknown:

an easy she wasn't she would bring men home and I'd have to

Unknown:

listen to it all night. And, you know, I still have triggers

Unknown:

every once in a while that really throw me for a loop

Unknown:

because I thought I've overcome and I haven't. Yeah, it's it's

Unknown:

an interesting story. The the motorcycle gang part is the most

Unknown:

fun because the cops were staked out across the street from the

Unknown:

clubhouse. So the gang members would go through the back door

Unknown:

and hide their bikes in the secret room and all the women

Unknown:

and children would go through the front and we'd wave at the

Unknown:

cops across the street and then go in and I mean, I the man my

Unknown:

mom was with is in jail for murder now, but that was like,

Unknown:

who I hung out with for two and a half years every single day

Unknown:

and my mom thought that that was okay, so I would just never put

Unknown:

my own child in that situation, but I know better.

Maureen Spielman:

So Absolutely. And so when you were that child,

Maureen Spielman:

what age comes to mind? Was it when you're below 10? Are you I

Maureen Spielman:

mean, the first time.

Unknown:

The first time I saw my mom physically abused or pushed

Unknown:

through a glass table was five years old. And I think that

Unknown:

changed everything for me. So that was, that was like the big

Unknown:

pivotal moment. It's funny actually, I bet my stepdad the

Unknown:

night that he threw my mom through a glass table, and I

Unknown:

just met up with him recently. And he still has the bite marks

Unknown:

on his arm from where I met him.

Maureen Spielman:

Yeah, well, I imagined that that was just such

Maureen Spielman:

self protection, like just that animal instinct. Yeah, and it's

Maureen Spielman:

such compassion for her to the I don't know if I read that in

Maureen Spielman:

some of your stuff. But just like the, the young, your, I

Maureen Spielman:

don't know how you refer to it like the inner child. But going

Maureen Spielman:

back to that young, but we can talk about how you got there.

Maureen Spielman:

But just so much compassion, we can have you that we can have

Maureen Spielman:

for that little girl that endured so much, what would you

Maureen Spielman:

say? You know, how they talk about how when we are exposed,

Maureen Spielman:

and everyone is in some way, shape, or form to whatever is in

Maureen Spielman:

their household or in their environment, but how we develop

Maureen Spielman:

the mask or the survival self or the ways to cope and survive?

Maureen Spielman:

How did that show up for you? What did little Jenner kind of

Maureen Spielman:

take on?

Unknown:

Well, I was very lucky because I had a grandmother that

Unknown:

would spoil me and take me shopping every year before

Unknown:

school. And it didn't take me until I was older to realize

Unknown:

this. But if we had a really bad night at home, or the cops were

Unknown:

called, or I had to call the cops, whatever the situation

Unknown:

was, I would always go to school the next day in my best outfit.

Unknown:

But because that was my way of masking, whatever had happened

Unknown:

at home, I'm going to show up at school and I'm going to look

Unknown:

perfect, like nothing happened. And I'm just going to keep

Unknown:

moving along. And so I've found that to be the case, which I

Unknown:

didn't know but I still love to wear great outfits. It's just no

Unknown:

I wear them whenever I want and not dependent on what.

Maureen Spielman:

Yeah, but when you look back and you see that,

Maureen Spielman:

so it was sort of like okay, if I look perfect on the outside,

Maureen Spielman:

no one can touch what's going on in my home. 100 Yeah, were you

Maureen Spielman:

kind of did you go through the motions too? Did you become a

Maureen Spielman:

people pleaser? Or quiet your voice down? How did that show I

Maureen Spielman:

was

Unknown:

I was a big people pleaser because I never wanted

Unknown:

to go home. So I would be people pleaser at my friend's houses, I

Unknown:

would clean up our messes. I would like make sure everything

Unknown:

was perfect. I would be perfect. I had manners I would, you know,

Unknown:

I would sit so quietly so I did it in the in the way of not

Unknown:

wanting to go back to the chaos I would try and stay as long as

Unknown:

I could in other places. So but I didn't also recognize that for

Unknown:

many, many years that I was a people pleaser in that way.

Maureen Spielman:

Yeah. And did you see that it will kind of

Maureen Spielman:

like go like back and forth. But I've seen that in a few people

Maureen Spielman:

in my life where that even into adulthood, the urge, I guess, to

Maureen Spielman:

leave the home environment and be out of the house. It's almost

Maureen Spielman:

like even if the house is healthy now it's an ingrained

Maureen Spielman:

thing to be out of the house to avoid I guess like possible

Maureen Spielman:

intimacy like if you if you now have a healthy environment, but

Maureen Spielman:

it makes total sense that you would want to be out of the

Maureen Spielman:

house and to be an almost like, it's almost like to create your

Maureen Spielman:

little perfect world as much as you could.

Unknown:

I mean, I did every after school activity that was

Unknown:

free I did anything that I possibly could to never go home

Unknown:

because I didn't want to be there because I never knew what

Unknown:

I was walking into. So you know, you'd before I'd go home I'd

Unknown:

have to like almost put my armor back on and like pat myself up

Unknown:

to be like okay, whatever we walk into will be safe, we'll go

Unknown:

in our room, we'll do whatever it takes to kind of just avoid

Unknown:

the chaos at all costs.

Maureen Spielman:

And did that kind of continue for you through

Maureen Spielman:

your teenage years then to

Unknown:

um, you know, once I got a car I had my own freedom

Unknown:

and I got a job and then I had my own money my mom really

Unknown:

didn't care what I did 16 And on because I was almost like a less

Unknown:

of a liability at that point. So she I had a curfew of midnight

Unknown:

even though my mom was never home at midnight. I had a curfew

Unknown:

of midnight. Nobody was there. I was on time but I still showed

Unknown:

up on time what I was told I follow the rules even though

Unknown:

nobody else follow the rules. I don't know why just part of my

Unknown:

personality.

Maureen Spielman:

Right? It's um, right. It's It's ironic that

Maureen Spielman:

you had the the, you know, 12 o'clock curfew, but it also

Maureen Spielman:

makes sense that you would want to follow it and just kind of

Maureen Spielman:

color within the lines in those years just because I'm gonna say

Maureen Spielman:

because you had to deal with so much chaos that was out of your

Maureen Spielman:

control. All. And yeah, so then did you end up? Just going into

Maureen Spielman:

the workforce? Did you go into college? What happened to you

Maureen Spielman:

when you kind of move through your late teens early 20s.

Unknown:

So I got very lucky, I had an amazing high school

Unknown:

sweetheart and his parents knew what was going on in my

Unknown:

household. And so I really stayed at their house a lot, my

Unknown:

senior year in freshman year of college, and then I had a

Unknown:

girlfriend come down to Arizona, and she's like, Jenna, you're

Unknown:

not gonna believe it. You have to come to Arizona. And I was

Unknown:

like, okay, so I went down for spring break. And it was snowing

Unknown:

in Spokane when I left, and I arrived in Arizona, and it was

Unknown:

80 degrees, but palm trees and cute boys. And I was like, Sign

Unknown:

me up. I'm leaving. So I worked one summer, and I saved as much

Unknown:

money as I could. And I left Spokane, Washington, and I have

Unknown:

never looked back. I worked three jobs when I was 19. I

Unknown:

mean, I hustled for years, but you know what it was my hustle.

Unknown:

It was my environment. It was my experience. Nobody else had

Unknown:

control over anything going on around me. So it was like the

Unknown:

greatest freedom that if I had to work five jobs, I wouldn't

Unknown:

have cared because it was my own. I was so blessed. And I

Unknown:

don't take any of those years back either. Because they were

Unknown:

like, they also build me up to be who I am today. So it was all

Unknown:

worth it. So it was all worth it. Once we get

Maureen Spielman:

Oh, no kidding. But that's really,

Maureen Spielman:

really cool and admirable, admirable those years where you

Maureen Spielman:

went, and again, reflecting on the the possibility that the

Maureen Spielman:

universe kind of sent to you like, oh, my gosh, your

Maureen Spielman:

girlfriend invites you down. And then the choice that you had,

Maureen Spielman:

because I always think about things in choice points, too,

Maureen Spielman:

right? You could have seemed like it was a really pivotal

Maureen Spielman:

point for you to either have gone back home, or created

Maureen Spielman:

something new for you. So that actually started for you at you.

Maureen Spielman:

That's remarkable, I think because you started to kind of

Maureen Spielman:

do some change. And I know you're still young, but like at

Maureen Spielman:

a young age, and we don't always see that because I might be I

Maureen Spielman:

don't even know how many X years older than you. But my

Maureen Spielman:

generation mate, maybe that's changing as we go down, you

Maureen Spielman:

know, where people are waking up a little bit younger? I don't

Maureen Spielman:

know. Any thoughts on that?

Unknown:

Yeah, I just think that for me, I had to create a

Unknown:

boundary with her because she was still pushing the boundaries

Unknown:

with me, even though even though she knew better, like perfect

Unknown:

example, freshman year of college, I'm about to take my

Unknown:

first Final and I disliked tests a lot. And the night before my

Unknown:

first test, she called me at 2am from the jail sale gel, asking

Unknown:

me to bail her out because she beat the shit out of her ex

Unknown:

husband's girlfriend. And I was like, you obviously have no

Unknown:

understanding of me trying to build myself up to be something

Unknown:

bigger and better because all you care about is me bailing,

Unknown:

you want to jail and not my college chest. And that was like

Unknown:

the big pivotal moment for me to be like, Su, I gotta get out of

Unknown:

here. Because if I don't get out now, this will be the rest of my

Unknown:

life. And I'm not going to allow her to control how I move. And

Unknown:

so I just did whatever I could and talk about the universe

Unknown:

working in my favor. I met someone that summer that was

Unknown:

going back to Arizona, so I literally caught a ride with

Unknown:

somebody to Arizona, I just packed all everything I could in

Unknown:

his car and went down there. And I you know, I just I had no idea

Unknown:

what was gonna happen or if I was gonna go home one day or

Unknown:

what, but I wasn't gonna sit around and wait to find out what

Unknown:

happens next. I had to take control for myself. Yeah.

Maureen Spielman:

When you think about how, just when we talk

Maureen Spielman:

about that internal healing, and how when we're raised in chaos,

Maureen Spielman:

or the what feels what can feel like abandonment or trauma, I'm

Maureen Spielman:

thinking of all these different words. We do sever our

Maureen Spielman:

connection, and we can go back and talk about attachment to but

Maureen Spielman:

how did that kind of that disconnection from your mom, you

Maureen Spielman:

didn't have your dad in the house Young? Did that. Was that

Maureen Spielman:

starting to show up as you got older in your internal state of

Maureen Spielman:

like, Did it feel? Or how did it feel to you? I guess I would say

Maureen Spielman:

your internal state what was you know, you said that thing about

Maureen Spielman:

when you went to have your first child and kind of your wake up

Maureen Spielman:

around then. But did you know within your own like

Maureen Spielman:

psychological makeup or for your that emotionally, things were

Maureen Spielman:

felt out of alignment for you?

Unknown:

You know, I have to say that God was really good to me

Unknown:

because I always had great people in my life at pivotal

Unknown:

moments. The first two husbands that my mother had, were

Unknown:

actually really great men. And she was just a psycho, crazy

Unknown:

pants. And so I think she hit it really well in the beginning,

Unknown:

and then it would unfold over time and it would explode. But

Unknown:

both of those men were great men, I speak to one of them

Unknown:

today often, um, and I had a really great best friend through

Unknown:

elementary school whose parents were very kind to me, and I

Unknown:

still speak to them. I think God just put really good people in

Unknown:

my life at special times to really hold me close. And I

Unknown:

never felt alone. i My mom and I, I believe my mom abandoned me

Unknown:

a long time ago. And not even that she knew she was doing it.

Unknown:

She was just being selfish and doing whatever she wanted. But

Unknown:

there were other people in my life that really held me close

Unknown:

and allowed my feelings to be heard and seen. So I have a lot

Unknown:

of gratitude for that. When I'm lucky. I consider myself lucky

Unknown:

still.

Maureen Spielman:

Yeah, no, I It's, it's, it's great to have

Maureen Spielman:

those beacons of wisdom. And so that makes me think that into

Maureen Spielman:

this lifetime, you brought a lot of wisdom with you. And it's, I

Maureen Spielman:

feel like it allowed you to, even with the storms that were

Maureen Spielman:

going on around you, this is just my feeling is that you were

Maureen Spielman:

able to move through. Like you're saying, to get to the

Maureen Spielman:

point where you're sitting today to share your story. So when you

Maureen Spielman:

started going down, like oh, there are things to heal here.

Maureen Spielman:

Did what did you start practicing new things and

Maureen Spielman:

pulling new ways of looking within into your life? And

Maureen Spielman:

what's what's been most present or meaningful? You can it can be

Maureen Spielman:

many things?

Unknown:

Um, well, I think we're gonna go down the woowoo. We're

Unknown:

going whoa, now, okay, so I'm not my husband. And our

Unknown:

grandmothers passed away within a couple months of each other.

Unknown:

And both of us loved our grandmothers, because they took

Unknown:

such good care of us. And they, we had special relationships.

Unknown:

One of the things I loved about my husband is that he had such a

Unknown:

great relationship with his grandmother. But once I met my

Unknown:

husband, my spiritual journey actually begun because I started

Unknown:

seeing ghosts and spirits and angels and things were showing

Unknown:

up that I had never seen before. And so like I said earlier, how

Unknown:

it was just kind of thrown in my face, and I had to see it, they

Unknown:

were doing everything they possibly could to get my

Unknown:

attention. And I really think that was the catalyst to

Unknown:

starting all of my healing small in small increments. My I went

Unknown:

to somebody in Sedona, and they said that, why do you have two

Unknown:

clocks? What are the two clocks and I was like, Oh, my husband,

Unknown:

and I have our grandmother's clocks, those, that's the only

Unknown:

thing either one of us asked for from our grandmothers was their

Unknown:

clocks, which is a very random thing to ask for, by the way.

Unknown:

And she was like, Oh, the two of them in heaven coordinated your

Unknown:

timing. And I was like, like, how do you? How do you do that?

Unknown:

Mild, but really, that spiritual journey just opened me up to so

Unknown:

much more. And then it just really started seeing people

Unknown:

digging deeper, realizing what I went through is part of this

Unknown:

journey. You know, I just thought it was like who I was.

Unknown:

And it was my story. But then once I started to, like, get

Unknown:

into it, I was like, Oh, I'm really strong. And I overcame a

Unknown:

lot. And look at me now. And if I can do that, I can move

Unknown:

forward even faster, and harder and stronger. And so it's just

Unknown:

like, unfolded in little increments that I don't even

Unknown:

know how to describe to be honest, yeah,

Maureen Spielman:

no, but just the good friend of mine. She was

Maureen Spielman:

on the podcast, she's an intuitive and a channeler. And

Maureen Spielman:

she was said to me, Maureen, when these things happen, like

Maureen Spielman:

the two grandmas doing this timing together, it's actually

Maureen Spielman:

like they're working really hard on the other side to make that

Maureen Spielman:

happen. And you can imagine, you can like, oh, you know that

Unknown:

that truce bumps? Right.

Maureen Spielman:

So, so that reminds me. Okay, so um, what I

Maureen Spielman:

what I'm hearing you say is that you almost like had these

Maureen Spielman:

downloads or these, maybe your field started to be more open.

Maureen Spielman:

And so then you began to receive messages and guidance, and it

Maureen Spielman:

allowed you to tap into yourself more. And I noticed that on just

Maureen Spielman:

the what Courtney had sent me about the interview topics was

Maureen Spielman:

just the this idea of how life is working in our favor. I think

Maureen Spielman:

it was on your website, because I don't see it here. But that

Maureen Spielman:

whole idea that life is happening for me or your Montra

Maureen Spielman:

being it's everything's working out something like that, right.

Unknown:

Everything's working in our favor, even when we don't

Unknown:

think it is. And I like I I can't say it enough because at

Unknown:

the end of the day, my childhood was all meant to be because It's

Unknown:

put me right here. You know what I mean? And this is a perfect

Unknown:

example of why I say the things I say is, I was gonna have

Unknown:

Easter brunch, and I invited some people over, and somebody

Unknown:

called the day before, and they're like, Oh, we're going to

Unknown:

do this, and then we'll come over, but we'll be late. And for

Unknown:

me, I'm a big party planner. And I love to have everything like

Unknown:

perfect in my house, and it's an environment and it's fun. And I

Unknown:

got off the phone. And normally, I would have like, freaked out

Unknown:

and lost my cookies, and spewed all this negative energy

Unknown:

everywhere. And I got off the phone, and I was like, this is

Unknown:

gonna work out in my favor, everything's gonna be okay. And

Unknown:

the next morning, they showed up on time, they decided to not do

Unknown:

what they had planned to do. And I'm just curious, I had like,

Unknown:

freaked out and done my normal negative spiral. If they

Unknown:

wouldn't have been on time, you know what I mean. But I think

Unknown:

when we change our attitude into thinking, it's actually working

Unknown:

in my favor, yeah, actually does work in our favor.

Maureen Spielman:

Absolutely. And mine. And to be I like to be

Maureen Spielman:

in communication. And when those things align, just to be you and

Maureen Spielman:

I were talking before we hit record today, that pulling in

Maureen Spielman:

and I think the listeners really respond to this, like pulling in

Maureen Spielman:

the playfulness, the joy today's the summer solstice, as we

Maureen Spielman:

record this, right. And I was declaring, I cleared some decks

Maureen Spielman:

for myself this summer. And my, my name for the summer is the

Maureen Spielman:

sacred summer. But part of my intention is around receiving

Maureen Spielman:

and being in the feminine, but also being in the play in the

Maureen Spielman:

joy. And we were just talking about that, like, we can do the

Maureen Spielman:

healing work. But then what about can it be let's just ask

Maureen Spielman:

the question, can we have the playfulness and joy in there?

Maureen Spielman:

Are we going to allow ourselves to have that? Are we going to be

Maureen Spielman:

so bogged down by what the old story is?

Unknown:

Well, I think, I mean, this is such I love this topic.

Unknown:

It's my favorite topic. Because I'm such a goofball. Now. And I

Unknown:

think it's just so important to laugh, because like I said, we

Unknown:

can get in that deep, dark, heavy place, and we can get

Unknown:

stuck there. And I've gotten stuck there before. So I know

Unknown:

it's easy to crawl out of. But the thing that one of the if I

Unknown:

could give anybody a little tip or anything, it would be We love

Unknown:

going to comedy shows comedy shows is one of the things my

Unknown:

husband and I'd love to do as a date night thing, because it

Unknown:

just gets us out of our normal environment. And it makes us

Unknown:

laugh, and is there nothing back then cry laughing That is like

Unknown:

top five favorite things for me? Yes.

Maureen Spielman:

It's such a release, I couldn't agree more.

Maureen Spielman:

And it's funny, because someone that I know, she'll know who it

Maureen Spielman:

is, when she listens, she just went, we're right outside of

Maureen Spielman:

Chicago, but to a magic show, like a magic show, I want to go

Maureen Spielman:

to the magic show. And it's ongoing, but I love the comedy

Maureen Spielman:

show, kind of opportunity or possibility to. And I think that

Maureen Spielman:

what I'm learning a little bit about myself and my journey. And

Maureen Spielman:

like you, I believe vulnerability is where it's at.

Maureen Spielman:

And if we can, I couldn't, hey, these topics that I'm covering

Maureen Spielman:

in this podcast two years ago, forget it. And it's just through

Maureen Spielman:

my evolution. And now I'm like, Oh, we could talk about angels

Maureen Spielman:

and spirit guides and all these things that I would have never

Maureen Spielman:

envisioned I could do that. But I still have that side of me

Maureen Spielman:

that. So that's vulnerable to put out. But I kept myself, this

Maureen Spielman:

is kind of a different side of it in a self imposed, I'm going

Maureen Spielman:

to say jail. Because of some experiences in my life, whether

Maureen Spielman:

they were way in the past or in the last 10 to 20 years, or five

Maureen Spielman:

to 15, whatever. And what I'm realizing is like Maureen,

Maureen Spielman:

you're only perpetrating that against yourself like that. You

Maureen Spielman:

just keep yourself imprisoned. And so it's funny because, I

Maureen Spielman:

mean, this podcast just started in January, but in a way

Maureen Spielman:

listeners will be on the journey with me because I will sometimes

Maureen Spielman:

put things out about myself and I'm not. I'm like, not afraid to

Maureen Spielman:

say like I was full of resentment at one point, like a

Maureen Spielman:

toxic brew of it. But I also I'm also like, Ooh, is that is that

Maureen Spielman:

like a little to you know, edgy, but I think it's all I think we

Maureen Spielman:

set it before we started taping to is that we're all in this

Maureen Spielman:

together. We're all everyone comes from something we have all

Maureen Spielman:

experienced adversity some, you know, the big T trauma, even if

Maureen Spielman:

it was a little T trauma or neglect or whatever it was. And

Maureen Spielman:

so I don't know, I'm just one of those people that are gonna get

Maureen Spielman:

real about it. But oh, When I don't have Yeah, well, I was

Maureen Spielman:

gonna say when I don't have myself imprisoned, guess what? I

Maureen Spielman:

can free. The fun Maureen and the playful inherent side of me.

Unknown:

Well, here's the question. Here's the question

Unknown:

for you have the circle of friends you surrounded yourself

Unknown:

with change?

Maureen Spielman:

Yes, I'd say so in a lot came in the form of

Maureen Spielman:

I have my local friends. And when I've gone through my

Maureen Spielman:

coaching programs, it just was like these people that were

Maureen Spielman:

coming together with the shared interest in the shared just the

Maureen Spielman:

way that we can be with each other. And it's ushering in I

Maureen Spielman:

think, like even our conversation today. I think it's

Maureen Spielman:

ushering in a new femininity, maybe even an upgraded one. And

Maureen Spielman:

where we're really like, we're really in the sisterhood

Maureen Spielman:

together, we're really supporting one another, we

Maureen Spielman:

really, hold on, I always like think about that idea of

Maureen Spielman:

escorting each other souls growth. So I've got your hand as

Maureen Spielman:

much as you have mine, right. And it maybe doesn't even matter

Maureen Spielman:

if we've never met before today. But if we can know in that, and

Maureen Spielman:

just trust in that and surrender to it. It's so beautiful.

Unknown:

Yeah, I've really realized I've had a lot of

Unknown:

relationships just fall to the wayside. And I've had to just

Unknown:

graciously let them go, knowing they weren't serving me any

Unknown:

longer. But I have to be around people that are playful and not

Unknown:

so serious and can take like, you know, the van AC broke, are

Unknown:

we going to sit in here and complain for two hours? Are we

Unknown:

just going to kind of like go on the ride because it is what it

Unknown:

is, we can't do it but I've also the people pleaser came out in

Unknown:

me because I want to be everybody's friend. I want

Unknown:

everybody to like me. And I kind of started to realize that's not

Unknown:

who I am anymore. And I rather have five great friends than 100

Unknown:

Whatever friends, you know, I've really started to like, tighten

Unknown:

up who I really allow in in some ways, because I just don't have

Unknown:

time to waste on people that don't have any interest in

Unknown:

growing or loving or all of the beautiful things that are out

Unknown:

there.

Maureen Spielman:

Does that mean to the word that is coming to my

Maureen Spielman:

mind is boundaries? Have you changed your relationship or

Maureen Spielman:

even learned what one was?

Unknown:

Yeah, I mean, I love boundaries. Boundaries are my

Unknown:

favorite thing. My husband laughs My favorite word is no,

Unknown:

because that's just my instant reaction. Yeah. And he'll come?

Unknown:

Yeah, he'll come back and ask me again, like an hour later, I'll

Unknown:

be like, Okay, I thought about it. And we can do this.

Maureen Spielman:

Right. It's almost like a create. Yeah,

Maureen Spielman:

create space for you, though. Right, to then be disturbed

Maureen Spielman:

about what? Yeah.

Unknown:

Yeah, it creates the best space but to be honest with

Unknown:

you also through this whole journey, and I bet you can

Unknown:

attest to this as well as it's kind of a lonely journey.

Unknown:

Because there's really it's not a shareable kind of thing,

Unknown:

because it's your own personal experiences that you're really

Unknown:

letting go of and moving through. So I actually really

Unknown:

enjoy my alone time a lot and my husband knows when I start to

Unknown:

get a little antsy because I haven't had enough alone time. I

Unknown:

cherished my boundary of alone time and I will not sacrifice

Unknown:

that for anything at this point in time in my life.

Maureen Spielman:

Does that look like the same thing to you every

Maureen Spielman:

day? Or does it kind of vary when you need it in the day do

Maureen Spielman:

you like to set aside a morning I'd have a ritual

Unknown:

my ever will once I take my son to summer camp

Unknown:

because he's at summer camp right now I come home I get my

Unknown:

workout in I do like my tasks around the house, but I blast my

Unknown:

meditation, music, or whatever I want to listen to that morning

Unknown:

as I'm doing all my tasks in the house. So I still am like, flick

Unknown:

my moving meditation in a way and then I'll go outside and

Unknown:

I'll listen to the birds and ground myself. But I really need

Unknown:

that like two hours in the morning to just have like align

Unknown:

with myself connect with myself build myself up for the day and

Unknown:

then we can go full bore but also I don't get that all the

Unknown:

time because we're on vacation or we're home for a week you

Unknown:

know, so I try to get in the mornings but I can't I have to

Unknown:

be we have to be flexible and we have to allow things to happen.

Unknown:

So when I get it I take it yes

Maureen Spielman:

I sometimes have this struggle between I

Maureen Spielman:

want to work out but then if I come down in the morning and

Maureen Spielman:

light some candles and take out either some inspirational

Maureen Spielman:

reading or something to to get me into that vibration that

Maureen Spielman:

feels so aligned. Oh, and then if I start doing some work

Maureen Spielman:

early, I'll be like when do I fit in the workout and I feel

Maureen Spielman:

like it this season of my life. It's a dance between the two and

Maureen Spielman:

I know that I can I can do both. but it's I think we just have to

Maureen Spielman:

see what works best and be willing to go with the flow. And

Maureen Spielman:

I always hear too, that it's good to just have the practices.

Maureen Spielman:

So in the times where you can't access the practices, you're

Maureen Spielman:

your cup is fuller.

Unknown:

Yeah, I just did an Instagram story about it

Unknown:

actually today, because I love to work out. But it hasn't been

Unknown:

a possibility. And so I also have to be easy with myself. And

Unknown:

that won't work out. And I think, if we hold so hard to

Unknown:

like, I have to work out every day. And if I don't work out,

Unknown:

it's done. I love it. I think you're just hurting yourself

Unknown:

just as much as not working out. So you really I really just talk

Unknown:

about, like, Be easy on yourself, if you can make it

Unknown:

happen, make it happen. But if you can't, then we just let it

Unknown:

go. It just needs to be let go. It doesn't need to be held.

Maureen Spielman:

I appreciate you saying that. Because and

Maureen Spielman:

with with everything, right? It's, it's for me. But for

Maureen Spielman:

everything, it's holding it gently. It's desiring, naming

Maureen Spielman:

what's for us, but also just holding it gently. Because

Maureen Spielman:

that's not our kind of souls journey doesn't care how many

Maureen Spielman:

times we work out a week or, I mean, we have to realize that

Maureen Spielman:

some of those are just our humaneness that puts in all like

Maureen Spielman:

the things on our to do list and the shoulds. And yes, they're

Maureen Spielman:

the things that make us feel good. And keep us healthy. But

Maureen Spielman:

we can put some to the side because we have to, I think be

Maureen Spielman:

aware of our conditioning around it all too.

Unknown:

I always say just be easy in time to yourself,

Unknown:

because nothing is perfect. Yeah.

Maureen Spielman:

It's it's a simple. I feel like the word

Maureen Spielman:

pure message. It's Is it a practice for you like when

Maureen Spielman:

you've gone through the years? To hone that voice of support

Maureen Spielman:

and the loving kindness to yourself where more and more and

Maureen Spielman:

more the old voices of any sort of judgment or shame are crowded

Maureen Spielman:

out. And they're replaced by this loving kindness?

Unknown:

Yeah, yeah. Yeah. But if I could rub it off on every

Unknown:

woman, I would, because it is just sometimes I want to shake

Unknown:

my friends and be like, it's gonna be okay, everything's

Unknown:

fine. Just let it go, you know? And I'm like, Yeah, are you

Unknown:

beating your head against the wall over that topic? It doesn't

Unknown:

matter at the end of the day. So that's I always yes, be easy and

Unknown:

kind to yourself is the biggest thing I could give to any woman.

Unknown:

Yeah, do that. So.

Maureen Spielman:

So Jenna, for you now, when you're sort of

Maureen Spielman:

channeling these messages for humankind? What are you working

Maureen Spielman:

as a coach now? Or how does that? Is it showing up in the

Maureen Spielman:

work that you do with other people? Or is it sort of a life

Maureen Spielman:

mantra that you're just bringing out to the masses.

Unknown:

So I did intuitive channeling for two years, and I

Unknown:

enjoyed it. But it is a lot of energy. And it is a large

Unknown:

responsibility. And I just kind of, you know, fizzled out in the

Unknown:

most perfect way, I think possible. And then I created my

Unknown:

positive intention prayer cards that I sell on Etsy. And then I

Unknown:

did a big trauma release last week that I was not expecting.

Unknown:

And God has put on my heart so deeply to write a book about

Unknown:

releasing that generational trauma. So I'm currently in the

Unknown:

midst of writing a book about it. So I'm really excited. I'm

Unknown:

hoping to have it done by the end of the year. That is my

Unknown:

personal goal and holding myself to, but yeah, I don't work with

Unknown:

I just I do Instagram messages and stories. And yeah, you know,

Unknown:

I help in any way I can.

Maureen Spielman:

It's gorgeous to put that light out into the

Maureen Spielman:

world. With your Okay, two questions. Is did the universe

Maureen Spielman:

deliver you the trauma release? Or was it something that you

Maureen Spielman:

were actively working on? Or how did that occur?

Unknown:

Oh, man, I have been feeling out of my skin itchy

Unknown:

uncomfortable for a couple of months now. And I just could not

Unknown:

pinpoint why I was feeling so uncomfortable in my own skin.

Unknown:

And I finally after I had lunch with a friend, and whatever she

Unknown:

told me at lunch just triggered everything. The light bulbs went

Unknown:

off. And I finally understood why I was feeling this weight

Unknown:

and this mind stuff that was just running through me

Unknown:

constantly. And so it was it was a surprise but not a surprise

Unknown:

all at the same time that it unfolded the way it did. But I'm

Unknown:

so relieved that it has unfolded and it is released because I

Unknown:

have never felt lighter and happier than I have in years.

Unknown:

It's like Like going to the chiropractor and not knowing how

Unknown:

much pain you were in, and then he fixes you and you're like,

Unknown:

Wow, I feel amazing what was been. So okay.

Maureen Spielman:

Yeah. Well, I'm so excited about that,

Maureen Spielman:

because I'm thinking, right now, you know, when I first started

Maureen Spielman:

recording the podcast, I kind of had like four or five out. And

Maureen Spielman:

right now in a perfectly fine way, I'm right on top of my

Maureen Spielman:

schedule. And I feel like, I feel like this is meant to be

Maureen Spielman:

aired next week, because I also have just had a release, like in

Maureen Spielman:

the last I'm gonna say, even 24 hours where I was prepping for

Maureen Spielman:

it over the weekend, unbeknownst to me by some work I was doing.

Maureen Spielman:

But I feel like what the solstice but it's curious,

Maureen Spielman:

you're saying that because you're saying it. I'm feeling

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it. I have another woman Misha who was on the podcast just a

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few weeks ago, who was just I saw her on Instagram also doing

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some sort of live about something she's experiencing. So

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there's right now there's a really powerful energy going on,

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that I think is great to amplify out into the world as well. And

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then

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I think the world's at its highest frequency it's ever

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been at currently, which is a huge release frequency and let

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go up and bring to the surface frequency. So I'm like, Let's go

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people I am like, Bring it on. At this point. When a challenge

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comes my way. I am excited because I'm just ready to move

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through it and move up and move up and move up. So when people

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have challenges, like it's fine, let's overcome it. How do we

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move through it? Let's go. Well, we're on fast forward. But most

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people,

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it's good to speak to a lot of people though,

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because your vibration is very high. I'm laughing at myself

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right now, because I'm sitting, I always record in the basement

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because I've got carpet down here and it's decent background,

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but I brought my legs up into like a crisscross applesauce.

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And I never sit like this for a podcast. And it's kind of like,

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I pulled my legs up. And I'm leaning in like a child. So I

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feel like in a good way, you know what I mean? Like in a

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childlike, playful way. And then the other thing before we

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finishes, so the prayer cards are on Etsy? And did you feel

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like that was like a divine download to or how did that come

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to you and like when you created it.

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That was honestly one of the most beautiful moments

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I've ever experienced. I I had been doing real estate and my I

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was unhappy. And so my husband's like, take a few months off,

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just figure out what you want to do next. And we'll we'll move

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from there. So I sat every day on my office floor after my son

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went to preschool and I would just pray and meditate and

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journal and cry. And then the prayer cards came to me. And

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then COVID hit and then I was just looking for something to

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keep my head in the positive space and not in the down space.

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And I couldn't find a prayer that was just really gonna like

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me there. And so with COVID ended, I was able to write these

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positive intention prayer cards, and I love them because I found

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that some of the Bible verse apps were very negative. And the

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words they use were very, like dark and sticky to me. And so

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all of the prayer cards are written with like positive

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intentions, positive words, how do we move forward? What's the

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light at the end of the tunnel? And so it was, God desperately

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put that one on my heart because it's just something that I love.

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And it's been, the response has been beautiful, which is just a

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bonus to have. And then for this trauma to happen, and to have

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that put on my heart again. I'm like, Okay, now I know what's

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next. Because I had been waiting. I've been talking to my

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PR girl. I'm like, I don't know, my next move. I don't know, my

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next move. And then to move through that trauma and really

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see it. I was like, Oh, that's my next move. No, I know. So. So

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it always is shown to us just not in the timeframe we like.

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I know. And if we if we can remember, like if

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we can remember. Oh, surrender while you're in it. I can't

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wait. I can't wait to discover their prayer cards. I always put

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all the links to where people can find you in the show notes.

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But in case they don't look your Instagram is Genovese spiritual.

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Oh, Jenna be spiritual. Okay, so I'll put that in the bottom and

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then your Etsy page. Same with the same Yeah. Okay, so it's

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gonna be spiritual. So I will put in your website, all your

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good stuff and any links that you want to share with people.

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But

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then if you see your address, I'll send you some

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cards. A wonderful,

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I can't wait to see the cards. I'm so excited

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for them. Yeah, but I thank you so much. It's it's just divine

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timing that you and I got to have this conversation today.

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I'm so happy to know you and share your message with this

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audience. And yeah, any parting words from you that you want to

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add?

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Well, thank you for making me not feel alone in my

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journey. I appreciate that. Always. I think that we can all

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feel very lonely. So I appreciate your love and

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support.

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Yeah, yeah, right back out. shoe. Okay,

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thanks to the listeners. We'll see you in the next episode.

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