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Today we dive into the topic of Neuro-Linguistic Programming (NLP) with our guest Adele Anderson. Adele is an NLP Trainer and life coach who had a Near-Death-Experience (NDE) at age 27. Her recovery and exploration of the experience led her to NLP.
Her current focus is working with clients who have suffered loss and who are ready to re-define their relationship with grief. In this episode we discuss what NLP is, how current brain science supports a more holistic view of Mind-Body-Spirit, and how NLP can help you to move past beliefs, thought-patterns, and habits that are keeping you stuck.
Adele Anderson Bio:
At 27 years old, Adele Anderson survived a plane crash. That near death and life experience changed Adele’s path and led her on a deeper journey of discovery so that she could help others.
Little did she expect she would experience a significant loss later in life. Adele admits drowning in a capsized plane was easier than becoming a widow. Her grief from the loss of her life partner proved deafening, a deep wound that still weeps when the Band-Aid is pulled off, raw and tender when touched.
Loss challenged every aspect of her life, but she did find relief through community, neuroscience, nutrition and by embodying a rich spiritual practice. Adele is an NLP Trainer, Homeopath and Soul Coach and has had the privilege of helping those seeking happiness since 2002. Along with being an author, Adele has been on countless stages sharing her messages of hope. How do you find happiness when life doesn’t look so bright? Ask Adele, she will light the way
Guest Social Media links
Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/lifecoachadele/
Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/adele.anderson.1238/
LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/lifecoachadeleanderson/
Website - https://www.lifecoachadele.com
Email - yes@lifecoachadele.com
Additional Resources/Reading:
● Dr. Robert Lanza - biocentrism
● Dr. Michael Newton - hypnotherapy - Life Between Life - research over Decades
● Dr. Eben Alexander - Proof of Heaven and Living in a Mindful Universe
Questions for further guidance:
● Words are powerful - observe your language over the next few days and see if you can notice word patterns that keep showing up.
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Jen Lang:Hi, everybody, and welcome back to another episode
Jen Lang:of no halos here with Jen Lang and Jane Stark. Today we have a
Jen Lang:really fascinating and well rounded, I don't know,
Jen Lang:experienced guest, her name is Adele Anderson, and she is both
Jen Lang:an NLP practitioner. And I'm gonna say a brain science
Jen Lang:enthusiast, it's probably a nice way to describe it. And I'm
Jen Lang:actually going to hand it off to her to tell us a little bit
Jen Lang:about her brief introduction about how she operates in the
Jen Lang:world. And then we're going to dive into her NLP journey neural
Jen Lang:and Gristick programming and she's going to explain lots
Jen Lang:about it. And then this is a two parter episode. So today, you're
Jen Lang:gonna hear about the NLP and a lot of the brain science pieces.
Jen Lang:And then next week, you'll tune in and we'll hear about some of
Jen Lang:her story and some of those the other ways that NLP and an ND
Jen Lang:and near death experience has framed and shaped her life. So
Jen Lang:welcome, Adele. Nice to have you here.
Adele Anderson:Yeah, it's so nice to spend some time with
Adele Anderson:you, ladies. For today's talk,
Jane Stark:yeah, we're super excited about this. So tell us
Jane Stark:tell us who you are.
Adele Anderson:Okay, well, my name is Adele Anderson and I am
Adele Anderson:an NLP trainers. So I can train other practitioners how to
Adele Anderson:become an NLP practitioner. So NLP stands for Neuro Linguistic
Adele Anderson:Programming. And it was developed in the 70s by a group
Adele Anderson:of linguistics psychologists, neurologists, system study
Adele Anderson:people in cybernetic people. So it's a combination of a lot of
Adele Anderson:Sciences. But what it basically says to us is the blank, the
Adele Anderson:brain is malleable. So the things that we have going on in
Adele Anderson:our head, if they're not serving us, we can change it. And we
Adele Anderson:know that even though we talk about the brain, and we think,
Adele Anderson:Oh, this has to be really complex, it's actually not, the
Adele Anderson:brain is pretty simple, if we know how it functions and why it
Adele Anderson:does what it does. And so we can move into things as easy as
Adele Anderson:choice. In our subconscious brain, the only purpose of our
Adele Anderson:brain is to keep us alive physiologically. So this is
Adele Anderson:where the fallacy of only we only use 10% of our brain,
Adele Anderson:rather than we're only aware of using 10% of our brain, the rest
Adele Anderson:of its dealing with our you know, our heart rate, our
Adele Anderson:respiration, our body temperature, metabolism, and all
Adele Anderson:those other amazing cellular functions that we don't have to
Adele Anderson:think about. And the other thing that it's responsible for is to
Adele Anderson:be the best cheerleader that will ever have. It believes us
Adele Anderson:100%. So this is why these old sayings of whether we can or
Adele Anderson:whether we can't, both her right,
Jen Lang:yeah, very, very important. Thank you, that is a
Jen Lang:great start to what we're getting into. So my dogs very
Jen Lang:excited in the background. That's okay, she'll settle down.
Jen Lang:So when we, when would people use NLP for their day to day
Jen Lang:lives, I think that's probably a good place to start.
Adele Anderson:NLP can be used in pretty much all professions,
Adele Anderson:because it's really based in language and communication. So
Adele Anderson:not just the mind science of being able to up level or shift
Adele Anderson:or change or neutralize and emotional entanglement. But it's
Adele Anderson:really understanding how people communicate and why they say the
Adele Anderson:things that they say. So we learn how to build rapport
Adele Anderson:quickly report means that someone else trusts us. And this
Adele Anderson:is the engagement that we have not only in business, but as
Adele Anderson:friends and as parents interacting with anybody. So if
Adele Anderson:we understand that everyone has their unique style, so we get
Adele Anderson:into the learning of what's called representational systems,
Adele Anderson:so how people download their environment, how they download
Adele Anderson:their experience of the world, comes through their senses. So
Adele Anderson:what they see smell, taste, hear, feel emotionally in
Adele Anderson:kinesthetically. And then that gets into the brain. It gets
Adele Anderson:reorganized, moves through our belief systems to get settled in
Adele Anderson:there and then we spit it back out as length Good story. And we
Adele Anderson:tell our story in a certain way, based on three out of five of
Adele Anderson:those being more primary senses. So for example, you pick up the
Adele Anderson:phone with your best friend, and you start to talk. And she says,
Adele Anderson:I see what you're saying, well, she could be a visual thinker,
Adele Anderson:someone else might say, I get that. So they're kinesthetic
Adele Anderson:thinker, or someone I hear what you're saying. And so an
Adele Anderson:auditory thinker. And why this is important, is we kind of have
Adele Anderson:all had the experience where we meet some people, and we really
Adele Anderson:sink with them. And other people, it seems like oil and
Adele Anderson:water, and your best friend will say to you, we'll give it a
Adele Anderson:chance, once you get to know her, you're going to love her.
Adele Anderson:But at the beginning, it kind of feels sticky. Well, it's because
Adele Anderson:they're speaking a different lingo than us. So if we're a
Adele Anderson:visual, auditory kinesthetic thinker, maybe there gustatory
Adele Anderson:Oh factor, three, kinesthetic thinker. And when we start to
Adele Anderson:shift out the words that we use to tell every every story that
Adele Anderson:we're having, and use some of the words that really penetrate
Adele Anderson:into their brain naturally, so they don't, there's no
Adele Anderson:resistance to them, then we have greater conversations. And then
Adele Anderson:we can move into more that what's called the metamodel. And
Adele Anderson:the meta systems, we all have eight decision making processes
Adele Anderson:that are happening for every single thing that we decide to
Adele Anderson:do, whether it's, you know, the socks that we're wearing this
Adele Anderson:morning, or, or the conversation that we're about to have, and
Adele Anderson:understanding how these function really, really great for
Adele Anderson:parents. Because for example, if you have some people, there's
Adele Anderson:one, one of the metamodels is called matched or mismatched. So
Adele Anderson:if you can think that 50% of the world is matched, and I'll
Adele Anderson:explain what that means, and the other half are mismatched. So
Adele Anderson:when you're talking about matched, you're talking about
Adele Anderson:similarities. So people will say, Oh, that looks the same to
Adele Anderson:me as such and such. So their brain is defining, or comparing
Adele Anderson:something that they already know something about, to something
Adele Anderson:that might be new. And that's how their brain correlates that
Adele Anderson:information and make sense of it. But what happens if your
Adele Anderson:child downloads information of the world, on comparing
Adele Anderson:differences? So that's different from that. So that's why it
Adele Anderson:makes sense to me. So when we're communicating with someone in
Adele Anderson:our language, naturally, I'm a difference thinker. So I'll
Adele Anderson:you'll you'll just see it come out in the language, I'll say,
Adele Anderson:well, that's different than such and such. And then you'll know
Adele Anderson:that that'll give you a clue how you respond to somebody, if you
Adele Anderson:want to get a point across or you want to bypass the
Adele Anderson:resistance of your child's neocortex that always has a
Adele Anderson:better and better way of doing it always wants to argue and use
Adele Anderson:the subconscious brains well way of communicating, because this
Adele Anderson:just means that we're where we are syncing with their brain.
Adele Anderson:And so therefore, the information goes in without
Adele Anderson:resistance, we're coming from a different brain and communicate
Adele Anderson:gives us different results. So we can go through a bunch of the
Adele Anderson:different metamodels. But that that's the essence of it is to
Adele Anderson:start to look for these clues in how people are actually using
Adele Anderson:their language, because nothing is by chance.
Jane Stark:Right? It's the programming, it's
Jen Lang:the programming. I have a question, but I think
Jen Lang:jeans, no, go ahead. Question. So a couple go, Okay, I'm gonna
Jen Lang:hop in first. So is this something that is learned and
Jen Lang:conditioned from upbringing? Or is it genuinely the way that
Jen Lang:someone's brain functions from from setup a question or a bit
Jen Lang:of both,
Adele Anderson:there's a bit of both. So for example, a team
Adele Anderson:player versus someone who's an independent player, it could be
Adele Anderson:it could depend on what the circumstance is, some people can
Adele Anderson:flow between that. But you may know a child that just would not
Adele Anderson:ever be comfortable in a team sport. And you can try to put
Adele Anderson:them on the soccer team, but they just don't want it. They
Adele Anderson:want on the chess team. They want to be one on one with
Adele Anderson:someone. And so this is this is part of their personality. So
Adele Anderson:you kind of recognize the metamodel as part of their
Adele Anderson:personality. And then again, there's some camps will grow
Adele Anderson:into through time thinkers, but there's another metamodel that's
Adele Anderson:called in time or through time, so in time are very spontaneous.
Adele Anderson:So we see this in young children. They don't really see
Adele Anderson:the consequence yet, and this is why cheap children and teenagers
Adele Anderson:make riskier decisions than adults, because we simply had
Adele Anderson:more consequence
Jen Lang:variances of course, Once
Adele Anderson:you figure out a hot snow, this is going to
Adele Anderson:happen,
Jen Lang:I'm going to eat that whole bag of chips, and then the
Jen Lang:next day, I'll be really sad.
Jane Stark:So do that every day in my household.
Adele Anderson:In time, kids are going to be at higher risk
Adele Anderson:takers, and they're not going to necessarily see the consequence.
Adele Anderson:So I always say, if you're an in time thinker, think about being
Adele Anderson:dropped in downtown Vancouver where the sky rises are all
Adele Anderson:around you. Or even better. How about Hong Kong, if you don't
Adele Anderson:speak Mandarin, so you can't read the signs, you can't speak
Adele Anderson:the language and you don't know where your hotel is. That's a
Adele Anderson:spontaneous person, right? A through time person think of
Adele Anderson:them as being on the top of the mountain, the top of Mount
Adele Anderson:Everest, and they can see north, south, east or west, they see
Adele Anderson:the trail that got them to the peak. They know how they got
Adele Anderson:there. And they all also can see how they're going to go down the
Adele Anderson:mountain. So they're there through time.
Jen Lang:So I I get that. And again, is this something that is
Jen Lang:like conditioned? Or is this Is it something sort of the
Jen Lang:develops from an early from basically from in utero, and
Jen Lang:then they have maybe have a tendency towards one or the
Jen Lang:other. And that tendency then crowds out the lesser? Is that
Jen Lang:Is that an accurate description of how that might
Adele Anderson:work? So some of them, I believe, are just
Adele Anderson:innate, just right to themselves. But there are a few
Adele Anderson:that can be learned, like the team player versus the
Adele Anderson:individual thinker, you know, a CEO versus a, you know, an
Adele Anderson:accountant versus a CEO, someone who sees the global picture
Adele Anderson:versus someone that wants to cross the t's and dot the eyes.
Adele Anderson:So we can become experts in different ways, depending on our
Adele Anderson:environment and our conditioning. And in time, and
Adele Anderson:through time to can, we can offer those differences, but
Adele Anderson:we're going to see certain age groups going to be more in time,
Adele Anderson:like young children, they don't have that ability to know how
Adele Anderson:they got to today, and what's going to happen this afternoon.
Adele Anderson:So that consequence part of it the consequence of choice, which
Adele Anderson:cannot be removed. Like I'm going to show you a pen here
Adele Anderson:with a cap on it. And every choice has consequence, right?
Adele Anderson:So when children understand through metaphor, which is
Adele Anderson:subconscious brain process, these are ways to tell your
Adele Anderson:child or show your child a lot of information. And they will
Adele Anderson:understand it easier if you put it into a metaphor. I'm using
Adele Anderson:this pen with a cap to say, Okay, you're making a choice,
Adele Anderson:remember that it has to have a consequence. And so this is the
Adele Anderson:complete thing of what's going to happen when you make a
Adele Anderson:choice. So again, you know, understanding maybe different
Adele Anderson:age groups, different parts of the metamodel are more likely to
Adele Anderson:be in play. And other ones we learn what our child or what our
Adele Anderson:business associates metamodel is by asking questions, and then
Adele Anderson:seeing how the answers unfold.
Jane Stark:Okay, so I'm curious with all of that, where does
Jane Stark:belief work? And our conditioning come into play with
Jane Stark:all of this?
Adele Anderson:Yeah. So consider those rose colored
Adele Anderson:glasses. Okay. Yeah, so your belief systems rise up. And, and
Adele Anderson:they're, they're developing in the fundamental years, if we
Adele Anderson:look at evolutionary psychology, you know, a newborn to about two
Adele Anderson:is safety, survival and security. And so this is if a
Adele Anderson:child gets left in the crib way too long. And they feel like no
Adele Anderson:one's going to come and nurture them, no one's going to come and
Adele Anderson:feed them change their diaper, then they could sort of develop
Adele Anderson:an insecurity there. And then from two to 10, we go into love
Adele Anderson:and belonging. So this is when you know, we're surrounded by
Adele Anderson:people that typically look like us and speak the same language
Adele Anderson:depending on the diversity of the family. So these are their
Adele Anderson:first the SMM comes into play, which is a very fun, fundamental
Adele Anderson:primal part of our brain of separation. And then when they
Adele Anderson:become teenagers, you you come into self esteem and self worth.
Adele Anderson:So these fundamental parts of our development is where we get
Adele Anderson:the baggage. No deficiencies, and they will show up in
Adele Anderson:different ways. So somebody who has a deficiency, I know it's
Adele Anderson:not a friendly word, but it's not such a big deal. Just
Adele Anderson:awareness of where it comes like what age group it shows up in.
Adele Anderson:So for example, somebody has an issue around money. Well, it can
Adele Anderson:be a safety survival security issue. So knowing where the work
Adele Anderson:where the environment system for that to come into their
Adele Anderson:psychology So then we always look at the, the environment for
Adele Anderson:the starting point of the work. And, you know, if it's issues
Adele Anderson:with relationships and, you know, feeling that part of, Am I
Adele Anderson:do I belong? Do I belong with it with a certain tribe that came
Adele Anderson:in, you know, from two to 10. So we know that those issues, and
Adele Anderson:left and left unchecked, these are the kids that join cults
Adele Anderson:that join gangs, gangs are actually extremely sophisticated
Adele Anderson:in their psychology, they understand the need for love and
Adele Anderson:belonging, and love, and belonging doesn't necessarily
Adele Anderson:always have to be a friendly thing. But belongingness, they
Adele Anderson:will find a tribe that will make them feel like they belong. And
Adele Anderson:so to understand how this comes apart, and then of course, self
Adele Anderson:esteem and self worth, we work on that our whole life. already
Adele Anderson:does. Yeah. And so we understand that at some point, we became
Adele Anderson:wounded. Mm hmm. That for whatever reason, you know,
Adele Anderson:unintentionally, or, or otherwise, we felt not good
Adele Anderson:enough, at some point in that teenage to, you know, early 20s.
Adele Anderson:And our brain is still developing. So, you know, we, we
Adele Anderson:still have a developing brain tumor about 25, that neocortex,
Adele Anderson:which is, you know, the big thinker is still coming into
Adele Anderson:play. So, a lot of this stuff is really happening through
Adele Anderson:development. So then we have a lot of errors that can show up.
Adele Anderson:But but now we know we can correct those errors.
Jane Stark:So if we're, can you take us through kind of what an
Jane Stark:NLP process looks like, in one of those examples of say, the
Jane Stark:self worth or self esteem? Like you said, you identify that
Jane Stark:somewhere there was wounding in that teenage to 20s time? How
Jane Stark:does NLP then work with that?
Adele Anderson:Yeah. So someone will come in and, and I'm
Adele Anderson:analyzing the language. So the first thing I do is I want to, I
Adele Anderson:run about 30 minutes in the first session to find out how
Adele Anderson:their brain manages. So I'll run through the metamodel. So I'll
Adele Anderson:ask questions. And then I'll, you know, I'll show them, say
Adele Anderson:three different types of pens, maybe a marker, maybe a clicky.
Adele Anderson:Pen, and maybe a pen that has a lid on it, and ask them, Are
Adele Anderson:these similar? Or are they different? So I'll begin to
Adele Anderson:gather the data of how their brain processes information, I
Adele Anderson:will ask them about their favorite things in three
Adele Anderson:different categories. So with friends with work, maybe with a
Adele Anderson:hobby, so what things do you love, and they'll begin to show
Adele Anderson:me their signature language. So the 20 most common words that we
Adele Anderson:use to describe our world, and we can get into that, because
Adele Anderson:it's quite fascinating. Really, it really shows our mindset and
Adele Anderson:whether we're leading in the in the direction of fear and
Adele Anderson:depression, versus positivity and growth.
Jane Stark:Okay,
Adele Anderson:so when we, when we look at and get this
Adele Anderson:fundamental information, then, of course, the representational
Adele Anderson:system. So are they using more visual words? Are they using
Adele Anderson:more kinesthetic words, auditory, those are the three
Adele Anderson:primary ones. And, and then I have like a little worksheet
Adele Anderson:that I just keep on my desk, that gives me probably 100 words
Adele Anderson:that I can interchange. So I want to make sure that I'm
Adele Anderson:including all the representational systems when
Adele Anderson:I'm communicating, but more so I want to include more words that
Adele Anderson:represent their brain. So for example, we haven't used a lot
Adele Anderson:of auditory words today. So I might start saying, well, let's
Adele Anderson:tune into this. Or maybe we can, you know, sync with that, or I
Adele Anderson:can hear the, you know, the tone and in in this meaning, so that
Adele Anderson:we bring in some auditory words, so that those people that are in
Adele Anderson:that type of thinking zone will start to feel like okay, she's,
Adele Anderson:she's talking to me. So these are the things that I need to
Adele Anderson:know before I can do the work. Right, and then we move into a
Adele Anderson:process that is typically, you know, a different brainwave, so
Adele Anderson:I'm changing their breath, slowing down their breath, so
Adele Anderson:that we're changing the brainwaves that is associated
Adele Anderson:with relaxation, and then moving into a visual type of process.
Adele Anderson:And using something that's called anchoring. So we can we
Adele Anderson:can talk about all of those different foods,
Jen Lang:we could talk for hours, I think there's like so
Jen Lang:many, like we were gonna try, we're gonna do two episodes
Jen Lang:about there's just so much so many different areas to, to tap
Jen Lang:into, and to tune into here. Okay, I mean,
Jane Stark:I have a thought or a question a lot of our audience
Jane Stark:and the women that Jen and I work with, struggle with the
Jane Stark:overwhelm anxiety, I mean, and that's all just grow Right now,
Jane Stark:right based on the world that we're living stuck, yeah being
Jane Stark:stuck in their life? How? How would you or how do you work
Jane Stark:with clients? In the in that kind of space? Especially and
Jane Stark:I'm it's women of, you know, I'd say sort of 30 to 55 mins
Jen Lang:rod Yeah, quite a broad age, age range. Yeah,
Jen Lang:definitely.
Jane Stark:Yeah, do you have thoughts or experience or even
Jane Stark:talking to, to that sort of just the low level anxiety that we're
Jane Stark:living with?
Adele Anderson:Yeah, everyday level anxiety. So understand
Adele Anderson:understanding that thoughts and emotions are simply energy. And
Adele Anderson:you know, the when we start to label something that it, you
Adele Anderson:know, it's in the brain. But I'd like you to just sort of think
Adele Anderson:right now and say inside your brain find find anxiety, like
Adele Anderson:your brain can't really pinpoint it. Yeah, because anxiety is
Adele Anderson:simply a word that we've given a bunch of sensations in our body,
Adele Anderson:right. So if, when I'm moving through a process, what, what I
Adele Anderson:will do is we'll, we'll bring up something that's bothering them
Adele Anderson:so that the state is arisen in their body. And if it's too
Adele Anderson:heightened, then we can do it in what's called a disassociation
Adele Anderson:way. So I'd like to think about yourself sitting in your office
Adele Anderson:today, feeling anxious. So again, that disassociation of
Adele Anderson:just thinking about yourself, somewhere is outside of
Adele Anderson:yourself. So again, we're putting up this shield, we can
Adele Anderson:use a movie theater as a as a buffer. So pretend that you're
Adele Anderson:in a movie theater, you're the only one sitting there and
Adele Anderson:you're up on the stage, or it's a movie about your life that's
Adele Anderson:about to play. And if even if that is too tender, then we can
Adele Anderson:put you into the projection booth where you have all the
Adele Anderson:dials to tune down the sound or shade out the the focus, and
Adele Anderson:have yourself looking at yourself sitting in the movie
Adele Anderson:theater, watching yourself up on the screen. So that's a double
Adele Anderson:disassociation. And we use that for fear, the double
Adele Anderson:disassociation that's a very common process. In in that way,
Adele Anderson:and because we're putting a shield between the event and the
Adele Anderson:ceiling, and we keep dropping these safety nets for the person
Adele Anderson:to feel comfortable within exploring something that was
Adele Anderson:painful, and then we can move into it. And we actually look at
Adele Anderson:where it's located in the body. So you know, if you think about
Adele Anderson:your anxiety, and where you feel it, you'll be able to feel it
Adele Anderson:quite quickly where it's in your body. And then we go in through
Adele Anderson:the subconscious brains understanding of it, we see what
Adele Anderson:it looks like. So we go through all the things that are visual,
Adele Anderson:this the shape, the color, that the texture, the dancy doesn't
Adele Anderson:light move through it, we can use all these visual types of
Adele Anderson:cues to for you to identify what it looks like. And then we go
Adele Anderson:through what does it sound like? What does it feel like?
Adele Anderson:kinesthetically? So I want not the emotional part of it. I want
Adele Anderson:like the temperature, the weight, the stickiness? Can you
Adele Anderson:grasp it? Can you hold it in your hand? Is it drippy? Is it
Adele Anderson:solid? Does it feel like 10 When you tap it or a marshmallow. So
Adele Anderson:we we move through all of that. And then we know that that's how
Adele Anderson:the brain understands anxiety. So just like we use the metaphor
Adele Anderson:before, an emotion has physiology attached to it. It
Adele Anderson:has a heart rate and respiration a body temperature, it has what
Adele Anderson:it looks like sounds like feels like tastes like moves like
Adele Anderson:kinesthetically. And when we change three things about that
Adele Anderson:your brain can't hold on to it. It was only it's it's like if
Adele Anderson:you bake a brownie, that's a brownie. If you make an apple
Adele Anderson:pie, that's an apple pie, right? We can't change a brownie into
Adele Anderson:an apple pie. Right brain can't hold that. And so by changing it
Adele Anderson:visually, so we can run through, for example, a common one that I
Adele Anderson:use, let's make pizza out of it. Well, I don't even have to say
Adele Anderson:that pizza dough is white. But usually darker, like, negative
Adele Anderson:energy is dark in color. We want to move it back into the
Adele Anderson:brightness. Hmm. You know, we want to change the color and the
Adele Anderson:shape. So if I'm walking through it with the clients telling me
Adele Anderson:telling me telling me, then I will morph it into something
Adele Anderson:else. You know, maybe we might flatten it out with a rolling
Adele Anderson:pin. Maybe we might heat it in the oven. Maybe we might cut it
Adele Anderson:into slices. Maybe we might put it into the compost or put it
Adele Anderson:into the blender. We continually change it until the brain has
Adele Anderson:dropped it and now and then the anxiety simply leads we could do
Adele Anderson:it in a variety of ways. I've done lots of different ones in
Adele Anderson:groups where, you know, we want to dominate the ram of our
Adele Anderson:brain. So if we're feeling anxious, you can say the
Adele Anderson:alphabet backwards.
Jane Stark:I heard that one. Yeah, that's hard.
Adele Anderson:We're random numbers, our brain loves
Adele Anderson:sequence and patterns. And even though we're giving ourselves
Adele Anderson:the random numbers between one and 100 the system the brain
Adele Anderson:wants you to make 2345. So if you give it odd stuff, it drops
Adele Anderson:the it drops the anxiety. And the other one is the fire drill.
Adele Anderson:So five things that you can see in front of yourself right now
Adele Anderson:four things that you can feel on the outside of your body, three
Adele Anderson:things that you can hear two things that you can smell and
Adele Anderson:one thing that you can taste. And so all of these things are
Adele Anderson:little tiny tools that we can do no matter what age to bring
Adele Anderson:people back into a state of calm and feeling in control.
Jane Stark:Yeah, that fire drill when I have used myself
Jane Stark:and I use it with my children. It is a it's a great interrupt,
Jane Stark:right? Yes, it's sort of that and I we talk about this a lot
Jane Stark:the algorithm interrupt or the pattern pattern interrupt, were
Jane Stark:noticing the patterns in our life and, and our thoughts and
Jane Stark:just bringing that interrupt in can just kind of jolt you.
Adele Anderson:Yeah. And pattern interrupt is actually an
Adele Anderson:NLP process. Okay, there's a lot of things that we do naturally.
Adele Anderson:And that are really understood through mind science. So a
Adele Anderson:pattern interrupt can feel a bit rude at times, especially if
Adele Anderson:you're in a coaching setting. But if you have a client that's
Adele Anderson:going down a rabbit hole, you can say, Oh, I've got a text
Adele Anderson:that just came in, and I've been something very, very important.
Adele Anderson:I'm so sorry. But I really have to take that. Please continue.
Adele Anderson:And then they start again, and they go down the rabbit hole,
Adele Anderson:you say, oh, oh, geez, I really have to send this. Bla bla bla
Adele Anderson:bla bla bla. And you say, I was so sorry. I'm so sorry. Really,
Adele Anderson:truly, if you interrupt three times, they will not be able to
Adele Anderson:remember what they were doing. And this is this is important
Adele Anderson:for people that are you know, constantly going down those
Adele Anderson:rabbit holes. Yeah. Yeah, we need to give them an out. So
Adele Anderson:even though it sounds rude and feels a bit rude when you're
Adele Anderson:doing it, it really does help them to break that pattern
Jen Lang:are people who are prone to rumination, I think
Jen Lang:that would be very, very, very helpful to have both as if
Jen Lang:you're a loved one and you want to work with that tool and snap
Jen Lang:someone out of rumination. Then, if they know about that tool,
Jen Lang:they can also use it for themselves. You know, they're
Jen Lang:ruminating, ruminating, well, that's, that's why they say you
Jen Lang:know, you're stuck, go for a walk, yeah, shift the energy,
Jen Lang:move it and change it up, change up the environment and change up
Jen Lang:the situation. My my personal pattern interrupt is either go
Jen Lang:to the kitchen and get a glass of water, like get up from my
Jen Lang:desk and pour a glass of water, or go out into nature. Just go
Jen Lang:for a walk, take the dogs out and head out for a walk. And a
Adele Anderson:more powerful way to do that. Jen would be to
Adele Anderson:say the alphabet backwards at the same time as you're walking,
Adele Anderson:because you're changing your heart rate, your respiration and
Adele Anderson:your body temperature through a physical activity. And now we
Adele Anderson:want to dominate your brain. Interesting. Yeah. So you do
Adele Anderson:that combination and and the pattern will be successfully
Adele Anderson:broken. That's the difference between sending our kids out to
Adele Anderson:play when they're misbehaving. And then they come back in the
Adele Anderson:house and they misbehave again, because we're missing that
Adele Anderson:important component of doing them together.
Jen Lang:Interesting. That's cool on later this week.
Jane Stark:I have one last question maybe before we shift
Jane Stark:gears and for our next episode. But neuroplasticity? So the mind
Jane Stark:science piece, I feel like neuroplasticity is a term that's
Jane Stark:thrown around a lot, even and becoming more and more
Jane Stark:mainstream. Can you talk to kind of just a little bit of what
Jane Stark:that is? And how that it sounds to me like that's very much what
Jane Stark:neuro or what NLP is or is rooted in. But I just know for a
Jane Stark:lot of people like we hear that term, but I sometimes wonder how
Jane Stark:many of us actually truly understand it?
Adele Anderson:Mm hmm. Well, it just means that we're malleable.
Adele Anderson:So we know through science, that nothing is set in stone, that
Adele Anderson:what we believe today doesn't necessarily mean what we believe
Adele Anderson:tomorrow, or the pain that we're experiencing today does not
Adele Anderson:necessarily have to be in our life for the for the for
Adele Anderson:lifetime. Like I truly believe that we were never meant to live
Adele Anderson:with emotional pain. It's not meant to be a lifestyle. And,
Adele Anderson:and so just understanding that Your brain is the most amazing
Adele Anderson:processor on the planet and we all have one, it is more
Adele Anderson:powerful than any manmade computer ever created in this
Adele Anderson:world. And it has amazing capacity to change and to shift
Adele Anderson:and to grow and develop in amazing ways. And even shifting
Adele Anderson:into, you know, positive thoughts, shifts, shifts, the
Adele Anderson:way that we view our life. And you know, the power in in the
Adele Anderson:mind is, is one thing, but understanding that the mind on
Adele Anderson:its own is a limited organic thing. We know now that the
Adele Anderson:brain to make sense of what the brain has in it, we require
Adele Anderson:consciousness, consciousness, they understand through
Adele Anderson:amputation, amputation, any such technology is not no longer we
Adele Anderson:used to think it was just on the outside layer of the brain. Now
Adele Anderson:we know it's outside of ourselves that we're actually
Adele Anderson:transferring information through this energetic way. And then
Adele Anderson:consciousness itself requires awareness. And they say that
Adele Anderson:awareness is the gateway to neuroplasticity. So in if
Adele Anderson:something is off our radar, how do we change it? Yeah, when we
Adele Anderson:have when we go down a rabbit hole, because we know we build I
Adele Anderson:don't know what we're chasing. But something. Yeah, exactly. If
Adele Anderson:we treat that as a gift, to say, there you are, I just found
Adele Anderson:something that needs a little bit of attention, a little bit
Adele Anderson:of love, a little bit of compassion, and maybe some
Adele Anderson:shifting, we become aware of it. And then this is where it sits
Adele Anderson:in the neocortex for about 45 days. It's on our mind, shall we
Adele Anderson:say? And then we can shift it. But if it's not in our
Adele Anderson:awareness, then we have no ability to even know that it's
Adele Anderson:there. So how do we tune into that? Mm hmm. So we if we
Adele Anderson:understand the layers and then you know the in infinitive
Adele Anderson:nature, yeah, that we can get into that maybe in the next
Adele Anderson:episode?
Jen Lang:I think so. That seems appropriate to, to bring it to
Jen Lang:the next step. So that's a, that's fascinating. And so this
Jen Lang:marriage of NLP into this awareness piece, I think we will
Jen Lang:dive into more deeply. Cool. Next episode. Yeah. I don't have
Jen Lang:much, many more questions. I don't have any more questions
Jen Lang:around this round. I think what you've explained, Adele has been
Jen Lang:so clear and so fascinating around the uses of NLP and how
Jen Lang:it can really be such a beautiful tool to move through
Jen Lang:our lives with more awareness. I guess it's a really great way to
Jen Lang:put it and also awareness
Jane Stark:and the tools to heal and to to move forward
Jane Stark:right to shift
Jen Lang:to transform and to cultivate more, more
Jen Lang:neuroplasticity. Brilliant. Yeah. And
Jane Stark:I mean, how freeing is that to sort of to understand
Jane Stark:that we don't have to be in the place we're in? We don't, we
Jane Stark:never actually are stuck.
Adele Anderson:Exactly. And you can see it in the language. And
Adele Anderson:these would be simple shifts for people. If you feel stuck, start
Adele Anderson:using using words that have movement. Yeah, right. That the,
Adele Anderson:you know, I'm, I'm starting to move I'm looking forward I'm
Adele Anderson:stepping into, you can begin to adopt these types of words
Adele Anderson:within your vocabulary, because everything starts through a
Adele Anderson:thought before it becomes a word before it becomes body action.
Adele Anderson:So we start to turn those dials.
Jane Stark:Yeah, that's a great, that's a great little
Jane Stark:tip. So maybe as we close out this episode, Adele, where can
Jane Stark:people find you and work with you or start to learn more from
Jane Stark:your work?
Adele Anderson:So my website is Life Coach adel.com It's just
Adele Anderson:being updated right now. So you can dial in there but just know
Adele Anderson:that it might look different in a week. I am on Facebook, I am
Adele Anderson:on Instagram, you can just search my name Adele Anderson,
Adele Anderson:and it should come up. And then you'll see me on a pod podcasts
Adele Anderson:and different summits, webinars, those type of things.
Jane Stark:And you mentioned at the beginning that you do
Jane Stark:practitioner training, do you also do coaching? Do you also
Jane Stark:have coaching packages or ways that people can work with you
Jane Stark:one on
Adele Anderson:one do I do I have series that people can come
Adele Anderson:in for monthly sessions or sorry weekly sessions over a month so
Adele Anderson:a series of four to five depending if you want to go for
Adele Anderson:60 to 75 minutes sessions? And then I really encourage people
Adele Anderson:to do a four month series simply because that is sort of the
Adele Anderson:amount of time that it takes us to really change our behavior.
Adele Anderson:And it gives us that continual step back into our power. It's
Adele Anderson:really as a self love, you know, commitment to ourselves when
Adele Anderson:we're wanting to experience true growth and development. To say
Adele Anderson:this, I'm doing this for me, so that the rest of my worth it
Adele Anderson:Yeah, exact totally. investment in yourself.
Jane Stark:Yeah. Beautiful. Well, we both said it. So yeah,
Jane Stark:this is this has been such an informative episode. Thank you
Jane Stark:so much for sharing all of your knowledge and insights into I
Jane Stark:find mine sign. It's fascinating. I really hope I
Jane Stark:think our listeners as well, it's, you know, uncovering these
Jane Stark:tools, there's, there's many tools that we can use. And this
Jane Stark:is this is one of the one that sounds just so powerful. So if
Jane Stark:you're listening, we are going to next week, have Adele back on
Jane Stark:the podcast and we're going to dive a little bit more into her
Jane Stark:personal story and how she came to NLP. And some really, really,
Jane Stark:I think what are going to be very fascinating stories of your
Jane Stark:journey. So tune in again next week to hear kind of part two of
Jane Stark:this and I'm sure we'll be uncovering a few more tips and
Jane Stark:tricks using NLP. Thanks so much, Adele, for joining us this
Jane Stark:evening here. Thank you. Talk to you soon. Bye. Hi.
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