Create Doable Habits that Get You to Your Goals – with Ronnie Lo Life Coach | RR260

Hello everyone and welcome to this week's

episode of relationships rule. My guest today comes from

normally sunny California right near where my sister lives so

I'm going to make sure I meet her in person next time I go

there. Her name is Ronnie lo aza. First of all welcome to the

show. Ronnie.

Janis, I've been a fan of your podcast for so

long. I feel like you've already welcomed me and you know, a long

time ago.

That's so kind. That's so cool.

We know you but you don't know. We know you

until we meet. Yeah, that's

what's so special. I love this. So Ronnie

reached out to me on LinkedIn, actually not by email. But I

want to make this about you and share it with my audience that

Ronnie goes by Ronnie low life coach, which she can tell the

story about that. But really, Ronnie is a life coach, and

she's all about habits and celebrating celebrative

accountability. That's a hard word for me to say. So

celebrated?

Yeah. Say that, again. Celebrate if

accountability

celebrate of accountability, that makes it

easy. She's a certified professional life coach with a

holistic Mind Body psyche connection. And I know also that

you were a physical trainer for many years as well, you probably

still do that a little bit with your yoga training and so forth.

Is that correct?

Well, here's the thing. I was a personal trainer,

and I was never athletic ever. I was like the ones who picked for

softball, I was just the worst. But in my late 40s, I had health

issues. Long story short, I left PR and news because I was doing

radio news to become a personal trainer because of my health

issues by God and a corrective exercise personal trainer. I was

what he called it when doctors prescribed that referred me to a

corrective exercise, personal trainer after acupuncture,

chiropractors to Western medical doctors, you name it, nothing. I

learned how to work out properly, and I didn't hurt

anymore. And so she kept saying because I was so into it. I

really when I'm interested in something, I asked a million

questions. So I started asking her questions, and we were

always talking about everything. And she's like, You need to

become a personal trainer. And like no, I mean, who does that

I'm in my late 40s. She's like, because the thing is, you say

you're not athletic, but you're in great shape. Now you don't

hurt you and you're late for it. Well, I was 46. So people will

believe you, you can relate to them, you'll be your own walking

billboard. A year later, I thought, you know, I think will

become a personal trainer. And my mission, then I'm tying this

to my life coaching now. My mission became then after you're

taking all the exams, and you know, people think, oh, what's a

personal trainer? Yeah, there are good ones in there. It's

just like, there's really absolutely, yes, good doctors.

And there are doctors that just got a medical degree, you know,

they're good lawyers. And so in every field are those who take

it seriously. And they keep learning. And they they're

passionate about it. What I learned is you can study all the

anatomy, physiology, kinesiology in the world, and given the

information, but what my clients really needed back then. And I'm

not all woowoo, I'm very pragmatic. They needed mindset.

They needed help with their mindset. And now looking back at

it, it's funny, I'm just thinking about it. Now, it was

habits. And it's not just their habits, it's their habitual way

of thinking and their habitual way of approaching things. So I

set out then to be a personal trainer, every single individual

client to be as fit as that particular person could be not

like the magazines or the online or other people, but as fit as

that person could be. So I take this back Now, fast forward to

COVID because I became a personal trainer in 2011, and

then a senior fitness specialist and then pre postnatal, I have a

lot of specializations. Because as I kept working, different

people came to me and I'm the type like, Oh, my God, a

pregnant woman. What do I do? So I thought I should know what I'm

doing. So I got certified and I started training then all sorts

of certifications, women fitness specialists. And when COVID

happened, the first thing that happened was that people stopped

working out. You thought, peloton, well, that's not true,

not everybody, right? Especially working women. They were so I

mean, we all pulled our big girl pants up and took care of

business. But there were a lot of women who were afraid of

losing their jobs, whether they were the boss, and they had to

take care of it. Or they were on staff and they didn't want to be

indispensable. So some of my clients all who went on Zoom,

started telling me you know, my sister, you know, my friend or

whoever, it's just not working out anymore. And they're working

late hours. And you remember that kids were all working at

home and their spouse partner was at home. And so they either

didn't have time or they felt kind of like, oh, I don't want

to workout at home. They feel self conscious. So I started

saying, Well, you want me to talk to them. So start talking

to people. And somebody said you Have you really coached me?

Well, and somebody else told me, you know, you should be a life

coach. And I remember my sister telling me years ago, you should

be a life coach and like, what's a life coach? I thought it was

like real housewives or something. I show you like,

exactly. My brain candy. But I looked into it. And I got

serious. And I really looked at the different credentials,

because anybody can call themselves a coach, and anybody

can call themselves a life coach. But I'm like, Okay, take

this seriously. I start talking to my friends in Europe. And

they really take it seriously. They're their accreditation. So

I went with somebody, an institution and organization

that was ICF accredited international coaching

Federation. There are different ones. I like that one. I like

structure. I like learning a lot. I love the psychology. And

I love how much training they put you through and how many

hours in practice hours. So I took it seriously. And I became

a life coach. And now I'm a master professional life coach.

What I see Janice, what I wanted to talk with you about is

something great, I'd love to talk about his habits. I noticed

the common thread again, to get back to my personal training is

in relationships, in networking, in your career growth, I thought

it was going into it being a fitness coach, I have coached so

many people still am in career transition, and leadership and

time management and career growth. And mostly, well, now

there are men as well. I'm not gonna say mostly, but a lot of

women pass 50 They're pivoting that became the word after

COVID. But they are growing. And so I took this common thread of,

you know, habits enter into every aspect of our lives. Every

single one and our day. And these are real stats, you can

look it up. Our day is 40 to 50% driven by our habits.

Okay, stop right there. Stop. What's that song?

And emails? No, no, there's that one too. And then there's stop

right now. Thank you very much the Spice Girls. That's what

just Yeah, so stop right there. And let me just put this into

perspective for me because I, selfishly I want to know how to

there's that word pivot, but how to create I think is the right

habit. How to create the right habit. That's doable, because

you say habits, doable habits, that that. Like I play, I feel

like I play mind games with myself. So I work from home.

Right? You work from home, too, I think, don't you? Yeah, I work

from home. And I book I just said to you, when we got on this

call, I've been on calls all day, the most I have gotten up

is to go downstairs and make a cup of tea or get my lunch or

get a glass of water. So that I'm up and down the stairs and

I'm walking a little bit. That's sort of the extent of it. And

I'm sitting here thinking, I need to go for a walk. And I do

this to myself, every single day. I need to go for a walk or

I should you know, or I know there are no shoulds it's it's

all this thing, right? It's mindset, it's habits. It's it's

talking yourself in and out of things. It's willpower, all of

those things. So how do I shift it? Because it's not doing me?

My I'm not doing myself any favors. And I'm sure there's

many other people that say the same things that I do that are

listening to this call?

Oh, yeah. And that's the biggest thing. In

fact, I addressed this very thing on a Tuesday thing I just

posted on my Facebook group every Tuesday, give a Tuesday

trip, trip. Where's all this resistance? Because every day we

tell ourselves the same thing. I want to do this, what's stopping

you? Why are you doing the thing that you know, you want to want

to do? Not what you want to do? What you want to want to do?

There is? Yes, yes. To do that. You know, like this one lady,

she wanted more focus, she wanted to be more alert during

the day, and stop drinking her coffee down thinking this is

gonna make me more alert. Well, we've finally got down to the

you know, we can't go into all my case studies, but the grid of

it was she wasn't getting enough rest. So in order to be more

alert and focused, you need to get enough rest. And she would

tell herself every morning, tonight, I'm going to go to

sleep earlier tonight, I'm going to turn that TV off. Tonight,

I'm going to do some self care every day, she would think that

but then the night came and she wouldn't do that. And she's like

hurrying up, jumping on that social media again, or jumping,

taking care of last minute emails and then going to bed

after looking at that blue light and the things she wanted to

want to do. So we tell ourselves that every day you tell yourself

I should go for a walk or I should do this. You know what it

throughout the rules, like you shouldn't shouldn't. If you say

you should, you should. Okay, you're you know, it's like yeah,

you should do that. Because you decide you should do that now

because the the world decides or society decides, Okay, so if you

say I should do that we'll do I want to do that. Why do I want

to do that? And everybody knows what's your why? And we keep

digging, we keep digging. And there are three ways to approach

this and I didn't come up with us. But there are three ways to

approach creating a new habit. First, it's your goal. Do you

want to approach it by? What's my end goal? Okay, what is your

end goal? Do you want to just my end goal is I want to walk every

day for 10 minutes or whatever it takes three breaks? Or is it

your process are you going to focus on how you're going to do

that all the hacks, all the tricks, all the routines, all

the notifications, all the posts, all the alarms is the

process you're going to focus on, or you can focus on. And you

know, this from James Clary, you can focus on the identity. And

that's like when he started saying them, like you're

preaching to the choir, James, because I've read this all my

life, and I know this. You are your habits. Aristotle said

that. In other words, I'm paraphrasing him, but we are our

habits. Now people come to me and like, you know, I'm more

than just my habits. I have my values. And I have my

personality, like, yes, you're all of that. And what you do

every day, defines your day, determines your day, determines

your week, determines your quarter determines your year

determines your relationship determines your marriage, the

term, you can go on and on and on what you do every day, reaps

results. So that is your identity, just like in the

atomic habits book when he says, Okay, what do you ultimately if

it's your identity, I'm a healthy person get even more

detailed? I'm a runner, well, what does a runner do? A runner

runs? So what does a healthy person do you define what a

healthy person is? And then you do what a healthy person does?

That's your identity. That's what I mean by it's your

identity. You are your habits, your habits, are you. So if we

want to talk about relationships, let's say

business relationships, you have something and I'm going to ask

you a question, I'm going to take it off the you want to walk

everyday, but we can address that. I want to ask you, Janice,

you have something and I hope I can reveal it. I hope it's okay.

But I'm going to ask you if it's an impulse, if it's second

nature, you don't even think twice about it. So almost like a

compulsion? Or is it something that said in your list of to

do's after you speak with somebody on Zoom or a meeting?

Is it something that you have an a list to dues and you have to

Oh, yeah, I have to do that. You send out thank you cards. Is

that just automatic? Or is that something that you have to

remember to do, and it's on a to do list?

It's something I want to do. And I it's part of

the process, for example, after a podcast, or after a first call

with someone if I remember to get their address. Right. But

does it come to you naturally at the end of

every call? Or meeting? Does it just come to you? Thank You

card. Yes,

it does. It

pops in your mind, right? Yes,

yes. It's become a habit over the years.

Absolutely. Yeah.

So a habit is not my time. A lot of people like

how long until I create this habit. There have been various

studies and it's anywhere from 66 days to 237 days. What it is,

is repetition, repetition, repetition. That's how you learn

how to tie your shoe. That's how you learn what to do after you

go to the bathroom, if you know what I mean. That's how you

learn how to brush your teeth. It's repetition. So if you do

something 2000 times in a week, you'll probably learn faster

than if you do it every other week when you remember for two

years. So it really is repetition so bad. You want to

walk Do you really do really really want to walk during the

day?

If it's not pouring with rain, and it's

Yeah, and if if I'm not going to wreck my hair for the calls I

have in the afternoon or do yes I do. Because I could choose

when in the day I do that walk but I don't know do I want to

I'm not doing it. So there you go. I mean, I get what you're

saying. What is it that

you really want out of the walk? Why do you want

to walk

because I want to not sit at my desk all day I

want to move my body I want to feel some fresh air in my lungs.

Okay, so is it the fresh air? Or is it that you

want to get away from your computer and your office

that I want to get away from my computer

particularly. So easiest that's the easiest form of exercise

isn't well it's easiest in the sense that I can just walk out

the door you know, grab my phone, put my headphones on and

you know, go if you

had to if somebody handed you 100 Canadian

dollars right now if you told them something a little bit

easier than having to grab your headphones and walk out the

door. Did you think of something else to move your body?

Something easier?

Well, I tried I tried I got an app on the phone

on my on my iPad, too because I love to dance but my body

doesn't like me to dance too much anymore but I wanted to do

you know the exercise the dancing on the I'm giving

retreats, my secrets now

what do you And then doing that if you can't

dance something else, I'll give you 200 Canadian dollars.

I don't know, go up and down the stairs. We can

you

you'll have hip problems. You're okay. Yeah.

Okay. Could you just get up and do a really good cat stretch?

Sure. Yeah. Oh, that's even easier, right? Yep. What could

you do for 10 minutes a day that every single day at the exact

same time at the exact same location, whether it's raining,

snowing, when

so true what you're saying, but you know

what, the last time I tried to do that and make it a habit. I

chose three things to do within that amount of time. And one of

them of course, I was overextending myself. And I was

an because I chose to do squats because squats are really good.

And I I wrecked my meniscus. So that was the end of that. But

you know what I mean? Like that. So now I'm scared to do that.

But you want to do something that's going to be effective.

But yes, I hear what you're saying. Brilliant. Okay,

so this, this is brilliant. This is where we come

down. And this is the biggest resistance at first when we

start creating a new habit. Every single client without

fail, since I started doing this wants to do two or three things.

Or one thing that's overextending it, because again,

but they all go together to make it even tinier. We shrink the

friction, we shrink the change, shrink the change, and you may

think that's not as effective. What's more effective doing 10

crunches if that is not going to hurt you or something else other

than lunges or squats something doable. once mighty lay you said

shrink

the shrink

the change, which is the behavior aka the habit.

Yeah, is that's the change, shrink the change, shrink it

like a laser in that sci fi movie when you shrink the person

shrink the habit. So instead of doing squats, and you said to

other things, squats, and what else did you do?

Ah, what else did I do? I can't remember I did

squats. And I did. I think I did arms arm circles and a couple of

different versions of arm circles. And then something.

Okay. Yeah. So instead

of like, all three, one, or one of each.

Yeah, which is silly. But if I were your, if I were your coach,

I'm also a certified personal trainer still, until you don't

use your knees, get down on the floor and do bridges much

easier. Okay? Or get an infinity ban and put them around your

knees and just open your knees and close real slowly. I mean, I

would help you with that. So my clients kind of get the benefit

of that is that I know nutrition. And I know exercise.

So if we're working on all that. It's like, yeah, I take off my

coaching cabinet. I put on my Yeah, but we would choose one

little thing. Oh, perfect example this one guy. Two weeks

ago, he wanted to start getting active. He felt so good. When he

used to work out like when's the last time used to work out we

work in this whole mindset thing. He's this executive. And

he's like, the last time I really felt good is when I

worked out. And he was working out like four times a week. So

we finally fast forward, we shrunk it down to how about

working out he wants to work out 45 minutes three times a week.

I'm like, let's take it even smaller. He was really not he

hasn't worked out in two years. But he wouldn't want him to

start 45 minutes. I mean, even smaller, we finally found out we

agreed on 10 minutes a day. At the end of his work day. Boom,

he shuts off his laptop, his laptop. He does 10 minutes. What

What if I'm all or nothing, and I want to do longer while I'm on

there, like don't do not walk away. Go in that house. So he

did it. And at first he's like, I want to go on. He knew he

could. But he didn't. He's on his third week now 10 minutes a

day. But what we discovered is that you know what everybody

else you know, and this came out in coaching everybody else's

work. Most everybody in that company works remote or hybrid.

They work out. And because I asked him like if you have so

many meetings in the morning, and you guys are always busy at

night with more meetings or other things. When did they work

out? And he said well, actually and he found out he's like

they're working out during lunch? I'm like at 1pm Yeah, so

you work out 10 minutes a day. So this week, he's doing 10

minutes, maybe 15 if it spills over, and here's the Celebrate

of accountability. I call it celebrative because when people

hear accountability, they think oh, I got it again. You're not

and you're you're nagging me you're nudging me that I should

I should. I should. Like, learn to celebrate yourself. Look at

the little glimmers the shiny spots and share your wins. But

here's the thing, share too with yourself. But if you're gonna

learn to share it with yourself, you have to get in the habit of

sharing it, expressing it, getting it out of your body,

through your lungs through your throat through your mouth, not

just think it not just write it down. But say it. And I even go

further in, as you're about to do it as you're about to do your

five minutes. Janish I would say for you five minutes before that

walk and do something in the house, every single day, same

time, same bat time, same bat channel, if you know what I'm

talking about, you're my generation. Five minutes a day,

not 10 Not 15, five minutes, every single day. You know, it's

my movement time. There's my movement time. So I lost my

train of thought, Okay. We shrank it down to 1pm 10 minutes

a day. Yeah. And he's doing it. He's been doing it for a week,

because what you have to do, oh, celebrative accountability.

That's where we were on his way to do it. I'm like, tell

yourself, I'm on my way to do it. I'm on my way and say out

loud on going now. I'm doing it. I'm about to do it. As you're

doing it. I'm doing it. But say it. Because when you say it

audibly, your brain hears it. Your brain is a computer, your

brain goes, yep. You have to start reprogramming your brain.

And once you've done it sure share, I did it. This is what

what they do with me as their coach, they go on Voxer done. I

mean, most of them just go done. It doesn't take more than a

second. Some go on and tell me how they feel. And it's great.

And I did that. And sure, share, share as much as you want. But

celebrate yourself, because I'm not going to be around forever.

But you're going to be around forever with yourself. You're

you start getting in the habit of celebrating yourself, even if

it's a tiny little habit, you know what tiny little habits are

harder at first because you resist them. You want to do the

big thing. Don't do the big thing. Don't do the big?

Yeah, no, this is awesome. This is awesome. I

think, you know, I speak to many people. And you know, I've heard

different cabinet coaches, productivity coaches, all of

these things. And what you're doing is you're just simplifying

it for me, you're simplifying it. And you're also pointing it

inward. And saying, don't try to do too much. Just pick, you

know, and do it and stick to your new little habit. And then

the habit can get bigger, right after a while, but celebrate

what you do and speak to it, right? I'm on weight, I'm on my

way to doing it. I'm doing it. I'm proud of having done it.

Right, basically, is what you're saying. I love it. Wow, that's

exciting. And I think and just listening to the way you say

things, actually is very inspirational, you are very

motivational. And I know you can't motivate someone else you

can inspire them, but at least that's what I think but it's

very, very inspiring. And I'm going to suggest that you get a

lot of a lot of warm fuzzies from people when they do what

what you, you know, create for them and and work with them on

because must be really satisfying when they see

success.

And like I said it before I got on to all this,

I thought well, okay, I've tried a lot of things to change

certain certain things or create new habits, especially as an

entrepreneurs, you know, because I used to work for the man, I

used to work for a paycheck, it was scary letting go of that w

two for the 1099. So you instead of discipline or willpower,

which you know, you need to have a schedule and all that you

really have to get in habits for yourself. And for me, just for

me, but everybody, there's the thing about behavior change in

habits is that they're very complex. And it depends on the

context. And they're very personal. Not one, it's not one

size fits all. It just is not. You have to give that tailor and

he has to measure you or she Okay, show me journaling didn't

work. I love journaling. I think it's awesome. It didn't work for

me. I don't have 20 Minutes for Meditation. I just don't unless

you pay me a million dollars for it every day. I just I didn't

have the motivation. I'm not that type of person. But what I

did is I discovered and this is just me and so this is what I do

for my clients. What will you do? That's what I meant by

what's doable? What will you realistically do? Not just what

can you do? Because everybody goes okay, I can do this. I can

spend 20 minutes and I can but if you can't you can't I mean

it's not your style. So I found EFT Oh really? Tapping it's a

tapping meditation. You can spend 20 minutes but I do EFT

you can do a 32nd EFT you can do a one minute EFT when you tap on

your and I realized I'm a moving person. When I used to really be

in my Zen walking when I used to be in my Zen and kind of gotten

that meditative zone is when I used to walk especially on the

beach. But you know where I live in Los Angeles and Van Nuys you

can't really walk. Yeah, but I feel I'm a moving person. That's

when I get in my zone. Oh and my Zen, so EFT to me, I can talk to

myself while tapping on the points, you know, and it's

physical. And I can't do anything else if I'm busy

talking. So it helps me focus on what I'm telling myself, as

opposed to a guided meditation where I start making grocery

list in my brain on foods. Yeah, use it as like, oh my god, what

are what else do I have to do today? Or like other people tell

me they fall asleep. You know, my thing, like my Gremlin was

times like, I don't want to take the time. So I found EFT, but

that's what works for me. So then when I became a coach, I

try this on one other lady, busy, busy lady. She's just

like, I'm just not woohoo. I can't do all the affirmations

and all that. I'm like, Alright, how about doodle? She's like,

what? I'll fast forward. But we started her doodling in the

morning. I'm like, spend 30 seconds set the timer, I don't

care. She realized 30 seconds was nothing she would spend a

minute doodling little wiggly things. And then something would

come to her she would write it. And then she would doodle doodle

do it. Oh my god, something came to her she would write it also,

she was coming up with all these ideas that had to do with her

business. Some of them were about family. So she was

journaling. But not realize she was journaling. She should write

down her thought before she forgot it. But literally she was

drawing like little wormy squiggles. So

so your your, your zone of genius is, is

really being able to pinpoint people down to find a way to

make them start to change, not to make them but to, you know,

for them to change their habit.

I help you find your internal motivator. Because

we all have external motivators. I laugh when it's like, yeah,

the the posting and the alarm, we all know, the first thing

that comes out of everybody's mouth, well, I could set an

alarm, sure you turn it off, and then you don't do it. So and we

all have your brain gets used to that posted sitting in front of

your computer, and then you ignore it. It just becomes like

this thing in front of your face. You can't see me because I

have my hand or my nose, it just becomes part of what's in front

of you. So your internal motive, What's your motive? What's your

why that's your motivation? And then you have to find your

momentum, your habits are your natural momentum, rather than

discipline rather than just mere willpower? Because that's

another thing about willpower. Willpower, yes, we've all got

willpower. But you burn out, because after a while, it's like

you're constantly going, Okay, I've got the power. I've got the

camera, I gotta make myself do it. See how harsh that sounds?

Energy, and then you get burnt out. But if it's just a habit,

you don't get burnt out. Sometimes Sure, you got to push

yourself that extra little mile. The thing is, once you already

have the momentum and you're already doing something

naturally, if you have to go off on five more minutes, okay, you

can do it, usually. And if you can't, don't, you know, people

were surprised when they're like, Oh, I just I proved out

like, okay. So you booked up? Go on? Yeah.

Yeah, it's, it seems so simple. It isn't often,

you know, we make we we talk ourselves out of things very

easily. So we should be able to talk ourselves into them as

well. You know, like, it shouldn't be that hard. It

shouldn't be that art sounds easy. When you say it. I'll see.

I'm going to try it and see what happens. I'll let you know.

There's so much we could talk about and I'm, I'm looking

forward to perhaps having another conversation and

bringing you back, because I think there's so much more to

what you bring to the table. And I love it. And like I have

another question that was on your website, but we don't have

time to go into it now. So we'll do it next. Okay. And just

before we go, though, I want to ask you a couple of questions,

just an aside so I can find out my audience can find out a

little bit more about you. So you took a big thing. First of

all, I want to just say you took a big thing and in turn, you're

you know, you had a health scare. So that that was your

motivation to the beginning of a new career for you and so forth.

Right? But what since then, now that you're teaching other

people, the the ways to create these new habits, what's

something you've done in the last year, let's say that you

use your own medicine on if you know what I'm saying. So what's

a new thing that you created for yourself?

Okay, um, well, it's kinda it's a little private

but no, I'll share I'll be all vulnerable. I had a habit of

eating in front of the computer because again, time is my my

family Mike is like I don't want to take time to go do lunch. I

don't do lunch. luncheon, and I don't want to take the time to

do breakfast so i i snack and I'm not condoning this for

anybody else. Okay, I don't think people should snap because

it spikes your insulin and you could Become pre diabetic or it

turns into a bad habit. Okay, but with me it works. Grazing

works as far as my nutrition goes, but I'm not condoning it

for everybody. But my thing was, okay, I'm eating all the time.

And then I'm not overweight. I'm okay. But it became just a

mindless eating habit. So I had to look at myself and really

think, Okay, why am I doing this because I'm just used to, it was

more of I'm, I had to work on this, I realized it was the

sensation of something up to my mouth. It was not the sugar. It

was not because I needed energy. It wasn't any of that. So I

found that interesting.

I think that happened for a lot of people

through COVID. Because habits changed around work. And you now

you're in one place at home, where there's access to those

snacks more so than there were in the office, let's say I don't

know, unless you had a drawer full of them. I don't know, at

work. But yeah,

I don't eat anything that I almonds and nuts

and cashews. Know that nothing messy around my computer. But I

realized it was just pent up energy is because I had to chew

on something. So I had to look at that. It's like okay, well,

how can I use this pent up energy? So I had to start one

tiny little habit. You're gonna think this ridiculous.

No, I think it's fascinating.

I get up and do jumping jacks.

I don't think that's silly. I think that's

fascinating. I think that makes sense. That makes sense. Right?

But you found a way to change your habit. Yes.

Yeah. And it really, really, really, really

works. And if you just do a few jumping jacks, now I'm up to

every morning without fail. I get up and I do jump squats. I

do 60 jump squats. And then I do 100 Jumping jacks. I also do

push ups during the pandemic. I did that tiny habits challenge.

The guy who did a push up a day and no more is like if you go

more you go more like I thought I was can I cuss on here? Sorry.

I cuss on here. Sure. No, well,

once in a while. Yeah,

I was a BA a badass. Because I could do 20

pushups, because most women I used to train not to push. So

I'm like, alright, I'll do 20 Push ups on my toes in my hands.

Every day, I would add one more. Well, I got up to 80. And like,

I'm gonna keep going, I promise you and I'm 58 years old. Now. I

got up to 150 I'm like, I'll stop now. So every year we get

up and I would do 150 Pushups. I have since changed that because

I decided to do other things. But I do 40 Push ups every

single morning. It's a habit and I feel weird. If I don't. That's

what a habit is. It's just natural. My whole morning

routine is about five minutes. So I expend energy, I expend

energy. And I feel proud of myself like done, did it? Yeah.

Okay. Let's say something I changed. I did want to add one

more thing in the LinkedIn thing. I know that a lot of

people come to you, obviously, how do I do this LinkedIn thing.

What you inspired me to think of which is why I reached out to

you is there are so many programs out there and so many

tips and so many things you read online, like try this, try that

to to network to do this and the algorithms, but beyond all the

strategies, and it's like I used to say about diets when I was a

trainer. All diets work if you do them. The thing is people get

on these diets, and then they they give up. So same thing with

strategies. I met so many people that were trying strategies and

programs and $10,000 programs and masterminds and it's like

nothing worked. I'm like, well, the what? So we go to the habit.

Instead of trying to DM 30 people a day and do this on

social media. Make sure you post on your feed and oh my god, is

it algorithm? Is it. Instagram, today's Tik Tok tomorrow, pick

one little tiny thing that no matter what every day, you're

gonna spend five minutes doing. And I thought about this on

LinkedIn instead of like, instead of worrying about the

algorithms and the DMS and all that, what are you going to do

every day, five minutes, whatever it is that you want to

do? Is it going to be Connect? Is it to reach out and say, Hey,

thank you for this is to reach out and ask for help, like,

people love giving advice and tips. Hey, I noticed you posted

this. What do you think of this? Five minutes a day. It's amazing

what connections you can make and you're all about

relationships. And so I kind of experimented with it with a with

a client who wanted to start networking but didn't know where

to start. And that was it five minutes a day. And she felt

that's not enough. She has had so many reach outs now five

minutes a day that it

and if I can jump on that to say that if someone

already has a good number of connections on LinkedIn that

they been connected to for a while. You don't need to go get

new ones all day. Time, just go back and pick two a day and

start reconnecting with them and see where that takes you, as

well. It's not only about doing that, though, it's also about

what you say, because it is that is relevant. You know that

right? Especially in a in a social media platform. But yeah,

I totally agree. I always tell people, there's all this

information out there about the algorithms, but if you focus on

what you do, who you serve, and how you do it, and help people,

it's your community that you're serving, and they they don't

care about the algorithm, they just care about, you know,

working with someone that they trust. So, you know, there you

go. Yeah. So thank you for that, that it's so true, because it

does apply in so many ways, whether it's personal, whether

it's work related, or whether it's, you know, net, you know,

further than that related. I love it. And and I have to say

that I've had this book on my night table for years now. And

it's the book by it's a book by an I forget his name, actually.

But he's the Tapping Solution. It's called and he and his

sister, or Nick Turner, Nick, Nick. Yeah.

Yes. Isn't up for that.

Yeah, I know, there is exactly. But I always

wanted to read the book. And I never quite finished the book.

But anyway, we're time Our time is up. We went a little long.

And I, I, as I said, I you know, we'll, we can explore further

another day. But thank you for being here. Thank you for your

wisdom. And for all the inspiration that I feel that you

I know you gave it gave me some and I'm hoping that you gave

that inspiration to some of my listeners as well. And please

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