Aug. 21, 2024

BETTER OR BITTER With Corinne Keith

BETTER OR BITTER With Corinne Keith

Episode Summary – LIFE IS HARD BUT WE SHALL OVERCOME! In Episode 93 of the Shining Brightly Podcast Show (links in the comments), titled “BETTER OR BITTER” – please me Corinne Keith. She is a woman who faced sexual abuse from her father growing up as a little girl she carried with her decades and had to bear witness to the death of her 22-year-old son and his fiancée killed by a drunk driver. So much grief and pain she turned her life over to Jesus Christ and has been on a healing journey ever since. She teaches others via her coaching and book “Chosen For Victory” Come listen, download, share and review this powerful episode. Keep Shining Brightly!

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About the guest –  

Corinne Keith is first a Child of God in addition to being the only child of her parents. She raised 4 children, has 12 grandchildren and 7 great-grandchildren. She and her husband Gill will celebrate their 55th wedding anniversary in July of this year. Corinne began her journey of mind renewal as she sought healing from her own trauma of being sexually molestation by her dad. She realized she had believed lies about God, sex, men, guilt, condemnation, performance and her value. By learning her "Identity in Christ" brought Corinne emotional and spiritual healing which has been pivotal all her life. Forgiving herself and others has been a lifelong journey that has become crucial to obtaining victory and freedom. This was especially true when she was dealing with grief over the death of her 22-year-old son at the hands of a drunk driver.  Corinne's business "Chosen For Victory" summarizes the life she has In Christ.


About the Host:

Howard Brown is a best-selling author, award-winning international speaker, Silicon Valley entrepreneur, interfaith peacemaker, and a two-time stage IV cancer survivor. He is also a sought-after speaker and consultant for corporate businesses, nonprofits, congregations, and community groups. Howard has co-founded two social networks that were the first to connect religious communities around the world. He is a nationally known patient advocate and “cancer whisperer” to many families. Howard, his wife Lisa, and daughter Emily currently reside in Michigan, and his happy place is on the basketball court.

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Transcript
Howard Brown:

Hello, it's Howard Brown. It's the Shining Brightly



Howard Brown:

Show. And we are going to shine really brightly because I have



Howard Brown:

Corinne Keith in studio. How are you Corinne?



Corinne Keith:

I'm awesome. Thanks for asking.



Howard Brown:

I know you're just off for vacation, so you're all



Howard Brown:

energized and ready to go. So I want to share a little bit about



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current, just a short bio and things like that. So first of



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all, you identify yourself as a child of God, and you're an only



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child to your parents. But you've raised four children, you



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have 12 grandchildren, and seven great grandchildren, you got a



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beautiful family. And you and your husband, Gail, we're going



Howard Brown:

to celebrate 56 years in July, I'm going to celebrate 30



Corinne Keith:

It's actually 55. Today, Oh, happy



Howard Brown:

anniversary. I'm sorry, I read that wrong. I'm



Howard Brown:

gonna be 30 July 24. So Oh, my God, it's really great. You you



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start your bio with family. I love that. So but your journey



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began, you know, really with some trauma, we're going to talk



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about that with, you know, some sexual molestation, and lies



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about God's sex men. All that and your value. And you're a



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deep woman of faith. And your emotional spiritual healing has



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been pivotal as far as how to get your life together, and



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others and it's beautiful. You're gonna talk to us about



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forgiveness. And that's really been part of your journey. It's



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really how you obtained your what you call victory and



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freedom. And it's really true when you're dealing with grief,



Howard Brown:

and death of your 22 year old son, at the hands of a drunk



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driver. So you have a beautiful book called chosen for victory.



Howard Brown:

We'll talk about that as well. And I can't wait to get started.



Howard Brown:

But first, first, how do you shine brightly every day?



Corinne Keith:

You know, I am going to let your audience



Corinne Keith:

decide whether or not my answer is true. Because the way I shine



Corinne Keith:

brightly is by my smile. I have been told multiple times, what



Corinne Keith:

an awesome smile I have. So let your audience vote.



Howard Brown:

Well, for those that are listening, she has a



Howard Brown:

beautiful smile. And so I would agree that you are shining



Howard Brown:

brightly through your smile. And smiling is actually great



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because you lift people up when you smile at them. So it's right



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in line with the show. So it's really good. So let's first talk



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a little bit about some of the hard stuff about your background



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and growing up. And let's just share it share of what you want



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to share about the really the hardship that you've been



Howard Brown:

through.



Corinne Keith:

Well, my dad molested me early on, I was



Corinne Keith:

about four, maybe five. And I was not even aware of it until



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and like I said, we're going back 55 years because this is my



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honeymoon tonight. I was not able to concentrate my marriage



Corinne Keith:

with my husband. And I didn't know why. I saw him naked after



Corinne Keith:

he took a shower just shaving and preparing for intimacy. And



Corinne Keith:

I ran out of the bathroom onto the bed and nothing but weep.



Corinne Keith:

And I had no clue why. I was literally in my 40s before with



Corinne Keith:

some counseling, I discovered that I had been molested. And I



Corinne Keith:

had buried it all those years.



Howard Brown:

Yeah, that's I mean, how do you know? And then



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you've carried that with you. And now then you had to now you



Howard Brown:

finally discover it and have to process it. So I'm so sorry.



Howard Brown:

You've been you've been working at it and you are working at it



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and you have a beautiful marriage. So hopefully that



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that's you got a good man there. Gil. He's a good man he stuck



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with I



Corinne Keith:

definitely do. I mean, what brand new husband



Corinne Keith:

waits for three days for his wife to be able to consummate



Corinne Keith:

their marriage. I have a very special man. Very



Howard Brown:

graceful and very patient and all that. And then



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the heartbreak with your son, please share.



Corinne Keith:

Paul was on his way home from Bible College. He



Corinne Keith:

was engaged to his fiancee who is filling out their wedding



Corinne Keith:

invitations in the car, when they were hit head on by a drunk



Corinne Keith:

driver going the wrong way down. I 90. All three of them were



Corinne Keith:

killed. Paul was resuscitated at the scene as a result of it.



Corinne Keith:

Paul was always about life. And whether that meant salvation,



Corinne Keith:

whether that meant being a lifeguard and saving people



Corinne Keith:

there, whether that meant organizing blood drives, he did



Corinne Keith:

it all. And so part of his goal was always to be an organ donor.



Corinne Keith:

And we got to meet his heart recipient, who is a mother of



Corinne Keith:

five children. Her baby was five years old at the time. This has



Corinne Keith:

been 24 years ago and we have a relationship with them?



Howard Brown:

Well, first of all, what was the fiance's name?



Howard Brown:

Amy? Amy, so I just want to just take a second and just may their



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memories and I know you honor them. But may their memories be



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only for a blessing for all I knew and loved them, because so



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young, I have a 22 year old daughter, I couldn't even



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imagine losing heart right now. And to lose both of them and



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donate his organs and, and make his life you know, for good and



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all that. So this is something that I don't think it never,



Howard Brown:

ever heals. But do you ever talk to Paul and Amy? A little bit?



Howard Brown:

You know, see what's going on up there? No,



Corinne Keith:

I know, we'll have an interesting conversation



Corinne Keith:

when we are reunited, I will tell you that.



Howard Brown:

It's a beautiful thing, organ donation, and it's



Howard Brown:

just a human sacrifice. And, and that is shining brightly in its



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core. So it's unbelievable. And then you also had your own



Howard Brown:

battles with kidney cancer. Correct?



Corinne Keith:

I did. I was diagnosed with kidney cancer in



Corinne Keith:

December of 19. March, while we went on a six week long trip,



Corinne Keith:

and the doctor told me that I should be able to go ahead and



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go when I did. Guess when we had COVID.



Howard Brown:

That's right. And how are you doing? How are you



Howard Brown:

doing now?



Corinne Keith:

i It was a miracle. Literally. I had, it's



Corinne Keith:

totally and completely self contained. I needed no



Corinne Keith:

chemotherapy, and I needed no radiation. And so God literally



Corinne Keith:

worked a miracle. And I didn't have it taken out until May of



Corinne Keith:

2021. Oh, 2020 Excuse me, it's been four years.



Howard Brown:

Wow, that's awesome. That's absolutely



Howard Brown:

incredible.



Corinne Keith:

I'm telling you the love that you have and the



Corinne Keith:

support that you have from people. Okay, my daughter took



Corinne Keith:

pictures for our 50th wedding anniversary, we had a family



Corinne Keith:

cruise with 27 of us. Nobody could visit me during COVID.



Corinne Keith:

Right. So she had a blanket made with all of the pictures of



Corinne Keith:

everyone that I could take with me in the hospital. So I had a



Corinne Keith:

home of them are



Howard Brown:

like a quilt as of like a quilt or something. No,



Howard Brown:

it was



Corinne Keith:

it was a blanket with nothing but pictures on it.



Corinne Keith:

She does all that kind of creative stuff. Oh, okay,



Corinne Keith:

talking about a shiny. I mean, I could hold and cherish that. It



Corinne Keith:

was like holding them as well.



Howard Brown:

Yeah, wrap yourself up in that blanket.



Howard Brown:

Beautiful. That's all. Oh, that's really, really nice. Now,



Howard Brown:

I wanted to go through three types of things. And first, I



Howard Brown:

want to talk about grief. I know that you have some expertise and



Howard Brown:

training there. So tell me how you grieve and how you help



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others. Well,



Corinne Keith:

the primary thing about grief is that everybody



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grieves differently. And when they taught that grief was



Corinne Keith:

linear, they like to you. Grief is not linear I, I actually



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created a what I call a figure eight. And it actually shows how



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people it's it's in my book as well. It shows how people go



Corinne Keith:

through grief. And it's constant motion. I am looking for that



Corinne Keith:

put up so York people



Howard Brown:

see that? Yeah, well, we'll go by the book, and



Howard Brown:

they'll see it. But it's for those that are listening, I just



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showed the figure a diagram in the book,



Corinne Keith:

right. And it shows that we go from the



Corinne Keith:

recovery side. Okay, and what that looks like, both externally



Corinne Keith:

and internally. And we can see the progress that we make from



Corinne Keith:

the struggles inside as well as what people see outside. And you



Corinne Keith:

know that you're making progress. Because you can see



Corinne Keith:

how much time you actually spent in recovery. But the key part is



Corinne Keith:

allow people to grieve in their own way. Because everybody has



Corinne Keith:

different triggers. Everybody has different timeframes. And so



Corinne Keith:

it's okay to grieve in your own way.



Howard Brown:

And you can grieve for lots of reasons to this



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doesn't just have to be you know, someone passing there's



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there's lots of things to grieve about. Process and things like



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that. So it's natural to be able to do that. For



Corinne Keith:

Nobody can do it. Yeah,



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they associate it sometimes only with death and



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that's just not the case. There's grief and sadness that



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you can take with you in many forms and things like that it's



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a natural thing. And to go through that, as well, and



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sometimes it stays with you a long time. You know, I still



Howard Brown:

grieve and memorialize my great grandparents and grandparents as



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well. And I tried to think of the good things, right? You try



Howard Brown:

to think of the special times, learnings and things like that



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as well. Take us through the next step.



Corinne Keith:

Oh, breathing can also be okay. Just memories and



Corinne Keith:

sharing them with somebody else. Exactly. Healing.



Howard Brown:

It can be I agree. Take me through forgiveness.



Howard Brown:

Wise, oh, oh,



Corinne Keith:

my, okay. Forgiveness I learned isn't just



Corinne Keith:

from the head. Forgiveness has to be from our heart. And by



Corinne Keith:

that I mean is we have to address the emotional side of



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forgiveness. Okay? When I was dealing with the trauma of my



Corinne Keith:

dad's molestation, okay. I've tried to rationalize his



Corinne Keith:

behavior, because I knew my mother did not meet his needs.



Corinne Keith:

And that was very evident a couple of days before my wedding



Corinne Keith:

when she was telling me about sex. But if I rationalized his



Corinne Keith:

behavior, I didn't deal with the hard for fact, okay, of the pain



Corinne Keith:

that I endured, because of his choices. And it messed up my



Corinne Keith:

head. And as you mentioned, in my bio, okay, it messed it up



Corinne Keith:

about man, it messed it up about sex, it messed it up about God



Corinne Keith:

about myself, because I saw no value in that. Also, I had a lot



Corinne Keith:

of negativity and criticism in my household, and so worth in



Corinne Keith:

value. I didn't know what they were. So I had to forgive the



Corinne Keith:

fact that the demeaning, that came externally, I took



Corinne Keith:

internally, and I believe those lies about myself. So who did I



Corinne Keith:

have to forgive, I had to forgive God, I had to forgive



Corinne Keith:

myself, I had to forgive various people. And those are all



Corinne Keith:

necessary. But I'll tell you something else about



Corinne Keith:

forgiveness. It's like an onion, what I tell people is that the



Corinne Keith:

forgiveness has to be as deep as the wound. So if a wound only



Corinne Keith:

occurred once, it doesn't take a whole bunch to forgive that. But



Corinne Keith:

when you constantly have it wrapped around over years, and



Corinne Keith:

repeated incidences all the time, that has to be unraveled,



Corinne Keith:

in a similar way, that it was wrapped up.



Howard Brown:

I love that, thank you for sharing forgiveness was



Howard Brown:

such an important walk that we need to take, for many reasons.



Howard Brown:

individually and in group. I agree. So and you've been



Howard Brown:

through a lot, so you're doing that. So basically, something



Howard Brown:

that's been bonding for you has been your faith. So tell me how



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you rekindle your faith you forgive God and, you know, now



Howard Brown:

your your your faith is what kind of leads you are correct?



Corinne Keith:

Well, for me, my faith is relationship. And by



Corinne Keith:

that, I mean, God's just not somebody way out there. I have a



Corinne Keith:

personal relationship with him. And I am able to write, hear



Corinne Keith:

from him interact. It's a full fledged honest relationship, the



Corinne Keith:

same like I can have with my husband, that communication is



Corinne Keith:

very, very important. And yes, I do journal. And that's one of



Corinne Keith:

the ways in which I not only share my heart with him, but I



Corinne Keith:

hear what he shares with me. And what he tells and reveals to me.



Howard Brown:

I want to share with you that, you know, I since



Howard Brown:

I had 1989 and 9091, there was no internet or cell phones or



Howard Brown:

computer use of for the most part, that when I got stage



Howard Brown:

three, the metastatic stage four in 2016 and 17. And 18. I will



Howard Brown:

tell you that prayer, people prayed from all religions, and I



Howard Brown:

felt it and I think that was part of you know, I face very



Howard Brown:

long art odds. And I think it helps and I have to tell you



Howard Brown:

that there is a greater power than us out there. And so I



Howard Brown:

don't care what religion they weren't, but they were praying



Howard Brown:

and, and that energy was felt. And I do attribute that part of



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my healing. It's hard to explain how the hell I'm here right now.



Howard Brown:

So otherwise, but I think it was a part of it, and I'm grateful



Howard Brown:

for that. It was really, it did. So I think that was quite



Howard Brown:

important as well. Now, we're gonna call this episode better



Howard Brown:

or better. How come Why do you think we should title it the



Howard Brown:

episode? Better or better? Right. That was very interesting



Howard Brown:

in our greenroom conquer decision in our prayer talks.



Corinne Keith:

Well, I think we have a choice. We can't control



Corinne Keith:

what happens in our lives. But we have a choice as to what our



Corinne Keith:

response is going to be. And so it can make me a better person,



Corinne Keith:

I can grow, I can learn, I can change, I can forgive, those



Corinne Keith:

things might be better. Or I can hold on to resentment, and



Corinne Keith:

anger, and bitterness, and hatred, those things make me



Corinne Keith:

bitter. And so we don't like the word, responsibility. A lot of



Corinne Keith:

people shy away from that. But the life that I'm living right



Corinne Keith:

now, I live by the choices that I make. And so that's the better



Corinne Keith:

or better, I get to choose.



Howard Brown:

I love it. I love it. It's incredible. So also, I



Howard Brown:

want to hear a little bit about what went into your book. Okay.



Howard Brown:

Beyond a broken heart. It's available on Amazon. And what



Howard Brown:

were you What were you thinking? Is this it? Was this your first



Howard Brown:

book? It is that you've written? Okay, so I was always interested



Howard Brown:

from the author, what you decided to take what you have



Howard Brown:

inside you and put it words on paper. And, you know, I have a



Howard Brown:

friend that talks about, you know, the the word energy, the



Howard Brown:

spoken word, energy, but the written energy in their pages.



Howard Brown:

So tell me about your book process and what that's meant



Howard Brown:

for you.



Corinne Keith:

Well, I may be very unique in this, as I told



Corinne Keith:

you, I do journal. My book was a compilation of 18 different



Corinne Keith:

journals that I drew from, you see, our memory can play tricks



Corinne Keith:

on us. But when it's actually written down, you know, where



Corinne Keith:

you were at at the time. And so I drew my memories from what I



Corinne Keith:

had written in my journals. And I knew I needed to share the



Corinne Keith:

story. I shared the story of the molestation, I showed the story



Corinne Keith:

of Paul's death. And I shared how my forgiveness in the grief



Corinne Keith:

and how I overcame those things. You see, there's a reason that



Corinne Keith:

my business is called chosen for victory, because I am



Corinne Keith:

victorious. And that's why I wrote the book was to share that



Corinne Keith:

it's not just for me, it's for other people as well. And I'm a



Corinne Keith:

coach. So guess what I do? I ask questions. And my book also has



Corinne Keith:

questions on it. Because it isn't about me, it's about your



Corinne Keith:

journey. And it's about how people are going to process



Corinne Keith:

their own unique experiences. So I asked questions to help them



Corinne Keith:

in that process journey.



Howard Brown:

I love it because we are victorious and others can



Howard Brown:

be too. So absolutely incredible. So I have to tell



Howard Brown:

you that we have a short show. So I'm going to ask you to do



Howard Brown:

something. Put on your sunglasses right now. Ready to



Howard Brown:

go. Ready? You got some good ones? Oh, yeah, you're coming



Howard Brown:

off vacation. So we are now shining brightly, our light is



Howard Brown:

shining off of each other and into the world. For everyone to



Howard Brown:

feel the kindness, please tell everyone how they can get a hold



Howard Brown:

of you. And then share some inspiration with me. So we can



Howard Brown:

close up the show.



Corinne Keith:

Hey, first of all, they can reach me at my



Corinne Keith:

first name is c o r i n n e out chosen for victory.com. And the



Corinne Keith:

inspiration I would like to leave with people is the



Corinne Keith:

responsibility choice that you have to live the life. We don't



Corinne Keith:

blame. We take ownership for what we want to see and have



Corinne Keith:

happen. So my hope and prayer is for everyone to have the victory



Corinne Keith:

that they desire in whatever area they want.



Howard Brown:

We'll give you a huge amen on that. So thank you



Howard Brown:

for that. Also, I want to make sure that it I will certainly



Howard Brown:

put in the show notes. But your website is chosen for



Howard Brown:

victory.com. And so people can reach you there and find you on



Howard Brown:

Amazon as well and on LinkedIn. So we'll make sure that they can



Howard Brown:

find you as well. So you've been listening or watching the



Howard Brown:

shining brightly show, you can reach me Howard Brown at shining



Howard Brown:

brightly.com. And there you'll absolutely be able to find out



Howard Brown:

about my book, my memoir and the other books that I've written



Howard Brown:

and been involved with some collaboratives and the speaking



Howard Brown:

I'd be glad to come and speak at your event or fundraiser and



Howard Brown:

motivate, educate and inspire. And then lastly that my advocacy



Howard Brown:

is so important. So I work very strongly in the cancer world.



Howard Brown:

Don't go get cancer go get screened, and if you do let me



Howard Brown:

know and we can help walk with you along that path and into



Howard Brown:

survivorship hopefully, and then also my interfaith relations at



Howard Brown:

my mentorship and entrepreneurship. So my advocacy



Howard Brown:

means a great deal to me as well. And this podcast is just



Howard Brown:

blowing up right now. Lots of people listening and looking for



Howard Brown:

that inspiration. And Corinne, you added great value today, a



Howard Brown:

great victory. So thank you for being here, as well. It's been a



Howard Brown:

great show. Lastly, I just want to thank some of the people that



Howard Brown:

have gotten me here. So my book publisher is front edge



Howard Brown:

publishing. And we are having a beautiful spiritual newsletter



Howard Brown:

that goes out every Monday to lots of people called read the



Howard Brown:

spirit.com. And my podcast finishing house is the amplify



Howard Brown:

you network. They make me look great every single week. And



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then also a sponsor, the diamond beauties magazine is I was on



Howard Brown:

the cover of may and it's just a beautiful piece that comes out



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as part of this show as well. So again, Karina, back from



Howard Brown:

vacation, all charged up. Thank you for being here. Wonderful



Howard Brown:

show. And we'll see you soon. Thank



Corinne Keith:

Thanks, our loved our time.



Howard Brown:

Me too. Thank you.