Following Myronies to Lead You to A Fulfilled Life with Corey Poirier

Hi, and welcome to the That's Myrony podcast. My name's Alysha Myronuk, and I am your host and creator of this fun new concept. But first, what exactly is a Myrony? Well, myrony or my irony are those crazy coincidences that happen in life that you just can't explain. It's also another word for sign or synchronicity. We've all experienced these throughout our lives. But what if you started paying closer attention to your myronies? What if you started connecting the dots, or, as I like to say, follow the spiritual breadcrumbs that could have an impact so big that it changes your life forever? Not to mention the lives of others. Now, that's myrony.

Everyone, welcome back to that's my rainy podcast. I am so excited to bring on my next guest, Corey Perrier, because after just talking to him for a few minutes, I realized the level of my ironies that we have together are so incredible, that I asked if he would just be able to share on the podcast. So what you're hearing I'm also hearing for the first time, but first a little bit about Cory Cory. So Cory is a multiple time TEDx speaker. He is also the host of the top rated let's do influencing radio show, founder of the growing blue talks brand, and has been featured in multiple television specials. He is also a best selling author, award winning author, and the co author of The Wall Street Journal, USA Today, best seller quicklace is a columnist with entrepreneur and Forbes magazine. He has been featured in and on various mediums and is one of the few leaders featured twice on the popular Entrepreneur on Fire show. He also has interviewed over 6500 of the world's top leaders. And he has spoken on site at Harvard, and more recently to Microsoft team leaders. And at Kyle Wilson's inner circle retreat. So I can't even when I started hearing who he's interviewed, and I'm like, how did you get to meet all these people? I believe there's probably a lot of irony connected to it. So let's go meet Cory. And see how he's been doing all of this in his life, and hear the story behind it. Hi, Cory, thank you so much for joining me on. That's my irony today, because I know you have some amazing ironic stories to share.

i Yes, I do. I've been excited about this for most of the day, and I would even argue maybe a couple of days. So I'm Yeah, super stoked about that.

Well, I always like the listeners to know where you're calling in from, because a lot of my irony is I like to say it's a divine design that interweaves this together. And I actually just had an interview just yesterday that's going to interweave you even more, which is really funny. So I just want to have the listeners be able to see like how this happens.

Absolutely. Ya know, I'm really excited. And the whole idea Maione I was excited to be introduced to that as well, because I just think it's such an amazing concept and sort of approach to what I may have called synchronicity in the past or meaningful coincidences, so I love it.

And where where do you actually live? Yeah, so

I'm based in Prince Edward Island, in the Far East Coast in Canada. For those that may not be that familiar with this portion of candidates, the smallest part of Canada, it's like the last part that everybody talks about really. And yeah, so it's a tiny little island. It's surrounded by beaches and water so I mean in the summer it's it's amazing it's gorgeous. took it for granted my whole life growing up didn't realize you know what we had and still talk to my girlfriend about this the other day still interesting that will drive through a town let's say in Florida, that's like on the waterfront and comment to how amazing it is and all that and then come home and not even look at our town that way still to this day. But it is that kind of place. Like I've lately more recently I've often said it's almost like Hawaii and Canada because again, you're there's a beach every direction and you know it's when it's sunny out I mean it's you know, beaches, all kinds of watersports, it's and Marina like right where my office is right now looking at it if it wasn't raining, it's right in the waterfront with boats coming in and the marina and stuff so yeah, it is a cool little place. But again, Prince Edward Island in Canada.

Wow. Well, so it gets even more interesting because well my family I actually had my grandparents used to they they lived in Vancouver so I used to go to Vancouver a lot. I'm originally from New Jersey. like an hour outside New York City, so but I don't think I think maybe I've been there once, but I don't remember. So I gotta come back up and make a trip. But, you know, the funny thing is, is I just yesterday I was interviewing Michelle Bateman and Travis Volante. And I, she just told me how is she actually was like how she met you years and years before ever meeting anybody else. And it's like, she's in you know, Edmonton, Alberta. And But the funniest thing and the reason why I'm bringing this up is Travis met Rosalyn Fung, in San Jose, California at the airport. So where I live, the airport is how they met that then she became the matchmaker to bring Travis and Michelle together. And I know you work with Rosalyn. And Rosalyn is one that connected us. So like listeners listen to how unbelievably crazy that is. Like what are the odds and that's the concept of irony and like it is it is an it is more modern day word for synchronicity, but it's really synchronicity in motion. It's an action. Because otherwise, if you don't do anything, it's just a synchronicity.

Agreed so, so much. And it's interesting, because as soon as you started sharing, who you had on, I knew I knew that story. Like I, we actually were just in Alberta, two months ago, and we ran our blue tox event there. And my girlfriend was just meeting them for the first time. And so I told them to tell her the story, because I knew the story. So yeah, so it's again, it's so amazing.

But then it gets even crazier, because it's where I live of San Jose, California, like it's not even just like an airport. I mean, it was here where I'm like, That's nuts. But see, that's where it gets really fun when we start looking at that. So I want to get into about Blue talks is what you're doing is so unbelievable. But I was actually I watched your your TEDx talks, which were amazing. And for the listeners will have the link so you can connect to that. But how did you get into? I mean, you've done several, several TEDx talks, like, how do people I know you're also a coach that you help people get into TEDx talks? Correct. Like you be able to help them with that. But you actually talk about one of your TEDx talks, how you how you had to do stand up comedy, that you didn't want to do stand up comedy. And so it always seemed like you just at at that point just started being an action of a lot of things? Is that how you kind of started moving forward to really move the needle as fast as you have.

Yeah. So you know, I know we'll come back to this too. But it's interesting, because I was just thinking, as we were talking about Michelle and Travis, I can't wait to tell you about the Maione story that got my girlfriend it together, and what that led to, but the stand up comedy thing. Basically, what happened, the story behind it is that I and again, all these steps again, you can go back and say each one had to happen for the next one to happen. But what happened was, I was I lived in Western Canada. So where Michelle and Travis live, and I was playing music a bit in clubs, put out a couple are recorded a couple CDs, and I had a couple of songs on the radio. And so I was going down this path, the entertainment world. And I ended up I always thought felt I was going to be a writer, more so than a performer. And so I wrote this stage play that I decided to put in this festival called the Atlantic Fringe Festival. And it was like a seven day play run. And I had to find actors for the place. So I posted flyers and all that. And I ultimately found seven actors, sorry, five actors. And ultimately, we ended the sixth. And then there's a reason why the seventh one was there. This guy was the seventh one who didn't want to be in the show. But ultimately, I put posters out found the actors. The one at one of the actors was actually a guy I worked with, he was the only one I knew before this. And ultimately, we ended up doing the play. ran the first three days everything went smooth. The fourth day that lead actor sprained his ankle on the way to the show. And because of that, he needed more time for costume changes. And, of course, the only person that can so what happened was we needed another actor, but who's going to know the lines halfway through the play, other than the guy who wrote the play who was not in the play. So in other words, the guy being meaning me, if you're listening, you won't see me pointing to me. The guy being me who didn't want to be on a stage realized pretty quickly. There's only one other person that could fill in to make this work. And I was that guy. So I basically wrote a couple of parts where I wouldn't have to face the audience. Like I literally call it cleverly wrote the part so I didn't have to look at the audience. Excuse me, the main character was a busker. And I wrote it so that I could be people that were going in and like kind of like a guy was saying play more Bob Seger and he was just throwing pennies at a busker, and just delegate and play music. And I was that guy throwing the pennies. So I wrote it as people that were just like, random characters in the play that would buy us time. So move the story forward much quicker, the end of the play. I'm like, what happens if this happens again, like, if I want to be in this writing thing, maybe I need to get comfortable getting on a stage. So I asked one of the actors in the play, the guy that I didn't know, before the play started his idea, like, what do you think I could do to get comfortable with this? How did you get comfortable with this? And he said, You know, I don't know how to answer that. But he said, I can tell you that I'm going to do I'm going to stand up comedy workshop at the local university, starts in a week, did you want to join me? Maybe that'll help you. And I thought about it. Honestly, the idea, well, maybe I can go and learn more about writing, like I still was fixed on his writing thing. I thought, well, maybe I'll go and learn from these comics about how to write comedy. So I went to the the university did the two week workshop, the week, the third week, the guy told us, what we're going to do is you're gonna go to a comedy club, you're gonna watch comics perform. And ultimately, you'll take notes of what they did well, and you'll learn from each other and all this kind of stuff. So we go to the innocence goes to the story you're talking about, but we go to the club, and about five minutes to showtime, we're looking for the so called entertainers. And we found out at that moment, we were the entertainers. So he did it.

He kind of led us to not realize he was going to call us up on the stage. And so he basically said, Okay, essentially, who's gonna first and it's about 10 minutes after Showtime, nobody wants to go first. So now we're in a corner debate, who's gonna go first. And finally, I remember going to toastmasters one time, you know, in brown public speaking. And I said, we're going to face a fear like this, if I'm going to do it at all I myself do face at first. And I said, Go ahead, face it, head on and go first. So I went on the stage, grabbed the mic, told my first joke to dead silence. Strings of sweat start coming down my face, I launched into the second joke, because I figured the hardest part was getting on the stage. I've already done the hard part. Then I the second joke was met with more silence. So ultimately, the guy who was his name calls us over the corner on the stage and he hits me, it gives me a schmuck in the back of the head. And he says, you idiot. We haven't even turned the mic on yet. What are you doing out there? And so the reason I wasn't getting laughs is because the mic wasn't turned on. And when I share that story, I always tell people, the second part that people always want to know is what happened after and so we turned the mic back on, I told I did the deliver jokes again, in front of the same audience. And they bombed a second time, Alicia, I think I'm the only comedian twice, in 10 minutes with the exact same material. But I bring up that whole story, because you brought up the stand up to say, that was a pivotal moment in my life. But also you can see how look at the things that had to happen. Like I had to move across the country, I had to decide to put a stage play in a Fringe Festival, I had to face my fear of doing it. I had to, instead of closing the show halfway through when the actor sprained his ankle, I had to agree to get on stage and do what I didn't want to do. And most importantly, I had to ask the actor who I wouldn't have known, had I not put the stage play and put an advertisement up? How can I do this, and he had to tell me about this workshop that I didn't know existed. And I And to your point about in motion, I had to take action on all these things for any of this to happen. And so to answer your question, more directly stand up did certainly launch it all because at that point, I had been in sales, I had a good sales career. But I was terrified to be on a stage. And after doing that comedy thing, somebody invited me to see I kept going back every week to perform stand up. And somebody invited me with them to see Tony Robbins. And I saw him speak on a stage and they said, Can you believe he's getting paid money to do this? And I said, Whoa, like Record scratch moment. What do you mean, people get paid to do this, I'm going to a comedy club and paying 20 bucks to get $10 from the door. And you're telling me feel people get paid to do this. And they don't have to deal with hecklers, and they don't have alcohol and what clothes I need to know about this. And so that's how I got into speaking which I started by convincing a community college let me teach a sales course to them. Like I always say, it's, it's interesting, I had to sell them on letting me teach a sales course it was the first one they'd ever offered. And that's really what launched my speaking career. None of that happens without the stand up comedy. So and then everything that's happened since is built upon each other. So I would agree with what you said is the statement that none of it happens unless I got into stand up. So it did kick it all off.

That is amazing. I'm so glad I asked that full story because you're not able to share all of that. But it's like for the listeners, like I like to say it's like follow the spiritual breadcrumbs. Sometimes it's this little tiny crumb, but it's this action that's going to open something more and my former co host, which it was very funny, I had a horrible fear of public speaking also. It's a funny story of how I was able to get over it was my, my, my who ended up being my co host. His dad worked in these churches. And it was very funny because I feel like I was humbled on religion where I was I will be the first one to admit I was kind of judgmental on the religious side. And so God's like Oh, Okay, Alicia, I'm gonna show you how to get over, you know, and just accept it for what it is. But I'm also going to put you in front of these people that you have to give a presentation. And so I got to the point where I actually think it's harder to speak in front of 10 people than it is in front of 200 people, you know, because you feel like those eyes are on you more whatever, but I can I can, I absolutely understand that fear, like, you almost want it you would rather die than, you know, speak publicly. So if anybody told me that this is what I would be doing, I'd be like, ah, you know, but but it's also with what you talk about in your in your TED talks, and all listeners definitely go listen to Cory, his TED talks are amazing. But it's when you have that passion, and you know, you have a bigger message, you got to get over the fear. Because what do you have to lose? Right? You know, you never have anything to lose as long as you take a chance. But if you choose not to, well, then you might have been, you know, losing something along the way. So, I love that story. So, so much. And now I want to understand how well first you you talk about how you interviewed all these unbelievable people. How did that happen? So

I mean, it's, it's, you know, guess what another one of those things, when I think about where it all started, it really goes back a long time, I actually had a newspaper when I was like, 18 ish, 19, previous to the comedy thing, and, and I guess there were some elements that happened before the comedy, like I spent 10 years in sales. So I got to learn about relationships, and all that stuff built upon each other, too. But I had this newspaper when I was 18. Ish. And in that newspaper, what we did was we interviewed local entrepreneurs, to learn about their business to share with other people. So that's essentially how it gets started in this whole thing. Essentially, I started interviewing these thought leaders, and at the time, it was like one person, business owners, small businesses in my local town. But I started doing that, and I really enjoyed it. And then I moved away from it for a while. And then, years later, I always felt like I'd never close the door properly on that newspaper. So I launched a similar one. And then at that point, excuse me, I was doing like 60 interviews a month. And we ran that newspaper for, like, seven years. And so, you know, obviously, I that started the process, because I was doing that I was just doing interviews, just to fill the newspaper. But after building for a while, I started realizing there were certain people that I admired for a while or watch from afar. And and I started getting excited by the idea of the challenge of how can I reach that person for an interview. And so that's kind of where it evolved into, and where I started bringing bigger names onto this small little, like I say, small, little newspaper. And then

ultimately, what happened was, I realized that the newspaper world's, you know, it's still in the same market that I'm in, there's still newspapers going. And there's a newspaper, I know here that's still doing. They're bigger than they were five years ago, like they're still growing. And but I find it's the specialty newspapers. It's not the daily newspapers that are growing. It's a specialty one. So this one's called the buzz. And it's all about the local music community. And we're in a place that's really small compared to anywhere else. And yet, that paper when it started at 12 pages, and in the summer, now it has about 95. So you can look at 95 pages of advertisers. So there's enough advertisers to fill that. And so our newspaper could have kept going, I bring this up because I didn't have to leave it, but ultimately realized it was holding me back because it was only local, like it was never going to be able to grow because the newspaper world was sort of going in the wrong direction. And so that's when I realized maybe podcasting could allow me to continue what I was doing, learning about interviews, all that kind of stuff, interviewing bigger names, because they would see more potential to come on a podcast and they would this local newspaper. And so that's how that got, you know, that's how I evolved into the podcast. By the time I had launched the podcast, we had already gotten interviews with Jack Canfield, Dan Sullivan, who is run Strategic Coach, which, you know, he coaches the likes of Jack Canfield, Mark, Victor Hansen, Joe Polish, if you're familiar with him. So a lot of really big name thought leaders pay like $25,000 to do a weekend of coaching with him. And he's just behind the scenes guy, but he's been profiled by Success Magazine and everything else. And so we were reaching Robin Sharma is another example who wrote the monk who sold his Ferrari. We had interviewed Robin before I ever had a podcast just for my little newspaper. And so I didn't want to make it seem like we went to the podcast, and then all the big names started. We were like, I made a list of 100 people, and we were probably about 35 deep and these were people that I thought were unreachable. But I said I'm not going to accept that. And we were about 35 deep, just with this tiny small town newspaper. And then then I decided to the podcast. Just what it did is it allowed me to bring those interviews Live so that people listening, I should say reading now, instead of just reading it, they could actually hear the nuances in the voices, they could, they could actually hear the whole interview, like I was hearing. And so that's what led to podcasting. And that's, you know, I'll have to make it shorter and say the rest of the sort of history. But from there, basically, I've been obsessed with interviews. And so I've continued interviewing people, since then, and now it's, it's over 6500, at this point, oh, thought leaders. And you know, the first, whatever number that was, like 1000, or 1500, was small, my small town business owners, but since then I've just been obsessed with every new interview every new, because I just want to learn from people. And what sometimes people like, well, doesn't matter if it's a big name, it doesn't. But I do like interviewing the best of the best in their field, because you learn how they were able to do that. And that's a very unique thing that not everybody can do. But you know, not to jinx it. But just to put it in perspective. Now, what that's allowed me to do is I'm launching, and I think I shared this with you, but I'm launching a new podcast, that's a limited time one. And it's surrounding my book. So surrounding my book that I've written called the Enlightened passenger, and we're starting the interviews in September. And to not jinx myself, I won't say actual names, but I'll tell you that one of the people we're interviewing is he gets 250,000 listeners on his podcast that day. And you know, from podcasts, and that's huge, like,

about a year. And so, so I won't say who it is. But I'll say pretty big name. Also four or five people that started in the secret, so that'll start giving you hints as to who also an NFL linebacker and two award winning comedians that have been on David Letterman, The Tonight Show, Conan O'Brien, and I bring all this up not to name drop or not to say meaning thing. But just to say, a lot of times, and this is more, I guess, related to life skills or business skills. But a lot of times when people hear I've interviewed these people, they're like, I could never do that. Well, guess what? Neither could I, when I started, it wasn't an easy thing to do. But I bring up the oh, I'm launching this new show. And all of a sudden, I have 35 people that wouldn't have probably come on, you know, my podcasts on day one. And but yet, I should mention, I started reaching out last Tuesday. So those names I'm mentioning that's in five or six days. Wow. That's, that's the power of leverage. And so it's a whole nother story is not really with my attorney. But it's leverage. I mean, it does go into my attorney and synchronicity because how did you meet this one person? And they might have mentioned, hey, Cory, should I connect you with so and so. But now, I mean, I do believe in this whole idea that once we've done it, we have a confidence, like, so I don't go into thinking they're gonna say no, and that helps. But I honestly think, once you can leverage and say, here's some of the guests we've had in the past, it's so much easier for somebody to say yes, because there's, they're always looking for path of least resistance. So they're trying to avoid the fear. And the fear is, I don't want to be the first. Well, if I see that 20 people I respect a bit on this guy's show. It's it's usually the know is only because they don't have time. Like it's somebody who's just launching a new documentary, or they're, I had somebody who applied today. And she's done multiple interviews with me. And she said, Cory, I'm focused on growing the inside of the business for the next six months. So I'm turned down every interview. So the people who have to say no, now it's rarely because they're saying our show's not big enough. It's just that they have something that they're not doing any shows usually, yeah. Wow. Tangent, because you asked how it started, but that's how it started. And like I said, they're certainly my attorneys we could dig into there. You know, and even how I've kind of used, I'll say, I don't know if this is the best word, but I've kind of leveraged the minority on my side, so that the person who may be a minority person went, Oh, look at that cool, Marnie. I better say yes. So as an example, when I interviewed Jack Canfield, it was a no for about four months. They said, he's not doing any interviews right now. Outside of this, you know, the really big ones. So they said, Cory turns down nine out of every 10, it's probably a no. And so I did this whole strategy behind the scenes on the show that I reached out to the guy said earlier, Dan Sullivan, and I knew I found it that Dan was one of Jack's coaches. And how I found that it was because I went and Jack's website this a little tip for people who want to get show hosts, or people on their show. Guess I went on to Jack's website and see who are the people that he respected enough to let them put their testimonials on there. Dan was one of them. So like, Ah, okay, so then I I tracked him down, and I saw I saw they had a new interview and Success Magazine, which I listened to all the time at the time. And so I got the CD put in my car, listen to his interview, he mentioned working with Jack. But he also mentioned that was one of his favorite types of interviews he'd ever done. And the cool part is I my interview style was the same as Darren Hardy, but Success Magazine. So I approached Dan's offices at a dance and it was one of his favorite interviews. And guess what, it's the same type of interview we do. We should bring dan in the show, so that they decided ultimately Dan should come on the show. And so what I did was during the show, I brought up Jack's name like four or five times, knowing eventually, Dan, something and he said, you know, Corey Martinez. Think about it, you should bring jack on the show. He would love the show and he be a great fit. So then what I did was a cut that audio clip and I sent it to Jack's team. And I said, Hey, even Dan, Jack's coach thinks Jack should be on my show. And they literally replied something to the effect of okay, Cory, you've beaten us into submission, we'll send over the Think about it. It wasn't that I kind of manufactured the irony, because, again, it was and I don't say it, like I wasn't doing it to manipulate. I was just trying to be completed. But what I'm saying is I thought about it afterward. The way Jack's team is, and Jack's really big on synchronicity and all that they might have said, well, clearly this has meant to be, why does this keep coming up over and over again? Well, I

kind of throw it out there, I was like, I would love for you to be a guest co host on this show, where we can bring people on to share these moronic stories because people don't realize the level of what that almost like divine destiny, but you have to be an action of it, because we have free will. And you brought up about music. So I don't know if you remember the band Living Color cult of personality. So it's funny, I have a friend in high school. And I'll have to send this to you, because it's a really fun story. But he's a drummer who never quite made it huge. Like people don't know his name, but he knows so many musicians. And he actually plays with in a side band with Corey Glover, the lead singer of living color. And so without him even telling Cory about jumping on the show, like what my irony was, he just said, you just need to be on the zoom at this time. So it was so fun, because I got to like, spring on Corey Glover, like this and heard the whole story of, of how cult of personality was, was created. And you even find out that it's almost next to impossible that Corey Glover was the lead singer. And you're just like, Oh, my goodness, but you couldn't imagine not having his voice be that bad, right? So it's just everybody has these stories? And it's just like, How deep are people really looking at it? And when you can look backwards, and you're like, Oh, my goodness, let's connect the dots. Let's connect this and this and this. And this. And and yeah, I mean, people are people and we just want to hear how did you get to where you are. But I mean, a lot of it takes guts. A lot of it is thinking outside the box. And so moving into, like, how did you create your blue talks? Because for those that don't know, we got business life and universe, right. It's not what it stands for. For blue?

Yes, it is. Absolutely. Yeah.

And so how did that come about?

Well, and you know, it's, it's wild when you talked about live in color because I this is my background as a kid, I used to say my background, but as a kid that's kind of like, what would you call it? Guilty pleasure was wrestling. My grandfather, my great grandfather, my father, they all liked wrestling. And so I grew up watching wrestling. And when I say this, for people that aren't familiar with it, it's like the male soap opera on TV every Monday night, WWE whatever they have,

whether it's that wrestler who has the song as their He even talks about this in the podcast,

right? So here's so it made me think of this. So I brought all that up to say, this is how I know about this. But watching wrestling off and on throughout the years, I know that CM Punk comes out to cult of personality. So much. So he's friends with the band, I don't even think he pays royalties that come out to it like because they just let him commit to it. Well, and I don't know how it's gonna be, I'd love to know how we get to know the band and why he decided that was the song. But when you mentioned, Corey Glover barely made it into it as a singer. So then you start having to think about all the things so we think about the Myer need CM Punk coming out to that song. And that blew up his career like that, when you hear that noise that fans go nuts? Well, maybe if he didn't have that song, maybe wouldn't have been as big as he was. And of Corey Glover wasn't in the band. CM Punk doesn't have that song because the song wouldn't have existed in the way it did.

And here's the thing, Corey Glover met Vernon Reid at a birthday party that he shouldn't I mean, it's an unbelievable story. So listeners, if you enjoy hearing, I mean, it's unbelievable. And I'll send it to you because it was just like, I had no idea what was going to transpire from it. But all I knew is that this was one of my best friends who went and saw living color when we were in high school. And he loved the band so much. And then he ends up playing with the lead singer. And I'm like, that's definitely my irony. Can we tell the story, please?

I love that. And I guess with the blue talks part, I'm probably going to bring you back way further than that to bring you to it because the Maione that I think you almost need to hear about to fully understand blue talks because blue talks itself. The irony isn't as big in terms of the if I look at the leap from where what who kind of was the catalyst that maybe say we need to do blue talks to it happening. It was a small leap, but there's a bigger thing that led Add to it,

you got a crumb. So like the spiritual breadcrumbs like I just want to point this out because sometimes we have a loaf of bread that literally smacks us across the face that you cannot deny. But the ones when you can pick up the little crumb is unbelievable what door can open. So I just wanted to point that out because it sounds like you had a crumb that you followed.

Well, and it's a Chrome that now I like the first chrome I'd look back now. And I can see, like you said the whole arc of how this all happen. Steve Jobs did a Stanford commencement speaking keynote address, where he talked about joining up his dots, he could go back in his life. And, and this is a total separate thing, but still related, where he said, like, he can see those three or four moments in his life, where he was like, This is the worst thing that ever happened to me. And today, all of those four dots, if they had not happened, he wouldn't have ever come back to Apple, he would have never launched the iPad the like Apple wouldn't be I don't think Apple be one of the top companies they have. None of that happened. But he had to get fired from Apple for that to happen. And so on, so forth. So he talks in that address about his joining up the dots. So I love the dots thing and it but it to me, it's the same idea. It's a breadcrumbs. So to go back to where I'm referring to. This is like, this is mind blowing, as long as you believe the story, because I'm sure some people like as he just gonna make it.

Well, if you heard my story, you know, I love mind blowing. So you know, that's the reason why this podcast is there. And the more mind blowing, the better. So I'm already

well, and I'll tell you, I have all of this is kind of documented as well. So the first part of the journey, and I mean, I can go back even further than this. But the first part of the journey is that my I did I went to a read psychic medium. It was an Oracle, we called her an aura reader. She read your aura, but she read palms. And so my mother is really into like, tarot cards and tea leaf readings and all this and so I growing up, she brought me along with that stuff. And I was just like, and honestly, I mean, it's, I mean this in total jest, but I was like, that's just stuff is witchcraft. Like, I totally didn't, I thought like, Oh, it's so easy. Like, you're gonna meet someone this week with a brown shirt, like it was all so general. But what happened to me is I ended up going to two or three people that it was not general, it was like, this is gonna happen, this is gonna happen. Like, it's not start with the lady in a second who this whole story starts from, but previous to her, there was one guy that my mother took me to, and he was like, not just that on, like he said, I didn't tell him I was with anybody, nothing but my my girlfriend at the time. And my mother and I think my grandmother or something were there with us. But there was no way to tell who is who or anything. And we never met him before. My mom discovered a bit of the newspaper had that an ad. And so we went to him. And he one of the things he said is your girlfriend. And he said, you know, he told us that the first I hope you don't mind hearing stuff that could you know you may not like because he said I don't shield and I just told you what I see. And he said Your girlfriend is cheating on you with your best friend. Oh, for sure she was in the room. And she lost her mind screaming at him in that. And the skip all the rest of the story. Because he said so many things that came true. She fought it. And then like a month later I we broke up, I decided I was going to move to a different part of the country. And that he didn't say which best friend and I had like eight friends that we're all we're all tight. And one of the friends who has a closest with helped me move out, like basically moving my stuff at the back door and then ultimately found it. He's moving his own stuff in the front door. And that we literally like, as soon as he broke up the next day, two friends of mine went up to visit him. And they saw shoot female shoes in his house. And we were all good friends. And so they basically snuck into his house opened the door to his room and the two of them were bed. So like it wasn't just like we think it happened. Doesn't happen the next day after somebody told you a month ago. And then you start thinking about all the other things like every certain Tuesday night, she said we're going out with the friends. But that was the only that it wasn't like to go is with her at all. But it's like it's only because only the girls, but then I had another friend said how come every time she's down there I see so and so with her, like the other friend of ours, and you don't clone at the time because you trust people. But that I mean, that's not the core of the story. But it's just to say that's how I started believing in these things because this guy told me too much stuff. So then I fast forward a number of years. I go to a lady, her name is Sue. She does a reading. And ultimately, she tells me a whole bunch of stuff like she says, You're going to meet this guy in the southern US and you're going to build a friendship and it's going to turn into some great opportunities. She said I see you with a girl with a prominent L in her name and my first thinking was first letter L but prominent L in your name. I see you two in Sedona, Arizona riding horseback and sunset, somewhere near when you're 40. And I by the way, I didn't I'd never heard of Sedona I didn't even know that was a thing. And so basically six months later you And I'll skip a whole bunch of stuff and just say, I got together with a girl whose name is Shelly, prominent Ellison her name, two L's instead of the front letter L. We ultimately moved across the country, but we're in Canada. So we moved from Western Canada to Eastern, but we started to drive through the US. And for my 40th birthday, she bought me horseback riding lessons in Sedona, and we have pictures of us overlooking sort of the moonlight or whatever.

And so basically, ultimately, we got together. So that was one of the things and, and there's one other thing too is that, that I didn't mention, which is pretty just a wild situation is that Kurt and I both went to the same school. We knew each other like walking paths in the halls, but never like really sat down or talked or anything a year in the difference. And we both moved and moved to Western Canada. So the ops side of the country, and we both lived there roughly the same time I moved before she did, she stayed there longer. But I was working for this company to Sheba, one of the world's largest companies in the world at the time. And we went on this retreat. So we were in Edmonton. She was in Calgary, which was like three hours away. We went on this one week retreat one night, I mean, this guy named Andrew, who he worked with me, but what's really wild as we look similar, we're the same age. And we both had moved to the Edmonton from the other side of the country and ended up working at the exact same company next to each other cubicles. And we went to different schools, but in the same province, so like, the odds of US landing there are slim is right. And then we drive down to Calgary and of all the people because I was friends with a lot of them, him and I decided we were gonna go do our own thing. One of the nights were down there, we go to this random bar on a Tuesday night, there's like 12 people in there. And he goes, Oh, my God, that's Shelly Rogers. And I went to school with her. And I said, Oh, my God, that's Charlie Rogers. And I went to school with her when he went to university with her in a different province, because he didn't, he didn't go to the same school as us. But then I went to high school with her, and there's only 12 People in the bar. And we're in like a job side of the country, like Florida, in New York, you know, type of thing. And we're in the same bar, the same random bar on a Tuesday night, the odds of people even going out on a Tuesday night. But and now nothing happened from that. But it's just this one random thing. And the idea that all three of us would end up being connected in this one place, and never thought much of it. And then again, back to where we were at, basically, what happened was Shelly and I got connected on Facebook, she saw I was speaking in that part of the country. And she said, I asked if I was gonna be doing any talks near there soon. I told her I was she came up to see one of my talks, we just chatted really briefly. And then we reconnected on Facebook, I had said online, I wanted to get back into a first place and sweat lodge, she told me that where she was at now she was running sweat lodge is what like helping to set up a sweat lodge. So I should come down and check it out. So I went down into the different part different province, again, British Columbia now and went to the sweat lodge. We didn't get together for another four or five months. But ultimately, you know, we got together and sort of the rest, as they say is history. But how that relates, because that's the story of how we got together. And that's obviously all my ironies all the way through. And that's

why you're going to be sharing because I just want to say the compilation book, I'm so excited for you to be part of the gap. My irony, life is good book one, I'm so excited for you to write a chapter. So thank you for doing that. Because, like, yeah, it's like, how is that possible? Except if you're really kind of, you know, destined to be together, you know, this beautiful design, divine design, if we want to look at a higher power. I mean, I say God is love with an awesome sense of humor. That's how I represent Winky behind me. And you know, but I just, like, when listeners hear that, it's like, It's so unbelievable. And really what want to do is allow people to really start recognizing the level that's out there if you just pay attention to it.

Absolutely. And, and it's funny, because I haven't even told you the craziest part yet. Like, daughter. Yay. I mean, that's, that's crazy. All that happened that way, but what it led to as well. So for instance, I mean, there's so many things that led to personally but then so there's a reason why I told you when that Oracle read did my reading why I mentioned 1/3 thing. So I told you about the moonlight or like the horseback riding, I told you about the Shelly, like the elves in the name. But there's a third component. So what happened was because I do all these interviews that we talked about earlier, I said to her one time like what interviews Who would you like me to interview you've never asked me like, she never had asked me to interview anybody. And I said, I know you're a fan of different people's work. So who would you like me to interview and I always joke and say she made this pathetic little list because there's only three people on it she put on there. The three people one was David G. So he's with Hay House, he does a bunch of meditating and stuff like that. Like he actually he created the 21 day meditation challenge with deep that Deepak Chopra do because he he was Deepak director first ever director of wellness or something like that. So that's one person. She was a fan of another one. is a guy named Tommy Rosen. She's in recovery. And he has a thing called recovery 2.0. So she's always been a fan of him. And the third one was a guy named James Redfield, who wrote a little book called The self esteem prophecy about what we're talking about today. And so, and I won't go too much in detail, cuz there's some stuff I can't share yet on this, but I'll tell you what I can tell you. But basically, I decided to tackle that list. And I've interviewed the three of them. Actually, I think all three of them multiple times since then. But I didn't even know two of them were and I knew of self esteem, but I didn't know really who James was. But what happened was, I have my own little unique ways to do things. But this one with James, I have this website where you can go and take a.com, put it on, and it'll actually circle back with any websites associated with that.com. So it's a way to find like, secret hidden web emails. I said, Sorry, it gives you emails, so it gives you like, your emails, and you can kind of go okay, well, Lisa, at that's different. That's not like support ad or help or whatever. So then you start. And then you can take Lisa ad and search that on Google, and sometimes say, oh, Director, assistant director you'd like so you can do some creative stuff. So with Celestin and I went on their page at the time did that thing, and lo and behold, I see James that and Sally ash, and Sally's James's wife. And so I was like, and I knew that perk. So I'm like, Well, if that's like, if it's his name, that's obviously his email, whether it's checked or not, I don't know. But that's his email. And so I reached out and said, Hey, girlfriend's a fan of your work. I'm a fan of self esteem, we'd love to do an interview something to that effect. And his daughter came back and said, you know, he want he loved to do it. And she's part of the company too. And so, before I go further, in the interview, I'll tell you, they had only put those emails on the website for about three weeks ever in their whole life. And it was during the same three weeks that I went to look for them. And he's like, he got bombarded with stuff. So then they got they took the emails down. So I just happened to get it in that between that window. Now, I could have found a different creative way. But how wild is that? That the universe said, You know what, here, here's their emails, here's the exact email addresses. And so we did, we did the first interview. And I remember I did it at a food court in a mall because I couldn't get to my office. So I was like, he's never going to do an interview again, like this, like getting your stuff in the background. And I played it off. I was like, you know, as you can hear everybody, we're doing an interview remotely. But really, neither of us were at the same place. But I just kind of made it sound like a live remote interview. So we did that interview. And I guess what happened was he really liked the questions I asked. And so his daughter came back and said, you know, Dad said he'd love to do another interview in the future, he loved your interview style. So what happened was, I was going to the LA life conscious Expo saw that he was gonna be there. I said, Hey, do you want to do a second interview? Like I went back to her? And he said, Sure. And the funny part is, we did the second interview at the life coaches Expo, and there was no rooms or anything, do privately. So it was the same time interview, get all your background. Sounds like this is destined to be our first couple interviews. But ultimately, again, you must have like the questions or my energy or something, I don't know. But he said, we need to do more of these. So then we started doing like a series of those interviews. And then again, I'll be careful as to what I share so far, because we're sharing some of the soon. But basically, he said, you know, you should come and we should film some interviews, like let's do an interview series that we can put out. He was releasing Celestin. So let's put an interview series out. And let's do some video interviews. So I went, did some video interviews. And ultimately, to skip a long story short, and this is the part I can't say a whole lot about. But we ultimately decided to do a documentary, which COVID slowed us down, we probably it'd be out. Now I would say if COVID wouldn't have slowed us down. But we ended up doing this documentary. And it's almost done. I'm going to use the word almost lightly like we're four years in. So I feel like in a year, we'll be done, almost done. And so it's basically I went around, similar to the secret and interviewed, all the people we thought would make a good fit to share and, and here's the other thing COVID happened after I got all my main interviews in like it was like it waited for me. But I'll share one side story just to tell you when I started doing this, so I started doing this project with me, obviously, I had to pay attention to synchronicity. You know, now I write them down in a notebook. So I had to pay attention to them. Because I'm like I need this could become part of the behind the scenes of the maintenance. Like if this stuff happens, I need to be able to document this. And so I'll give you one story. And I won't say the name because he wouldn't want me to say his name because he's very shy. And he wouldn't want people also to reach out to him to try to get access to somebody else. But what happened was doing all these interviews, that all went amazing.

We and we've done a few since then by zoom because we had to but most of them are done in person. I'll give you one story. And then I'll just tell you quick, Maione story, but one story is an example of the power of this is I interviewed John Gray. So who wrote many men are from Mars. I interviewed him in the morning in San Francisco. And I had to fly from there to San Diego to interview Lisa Nichols in the evening. And John Gray talked about how whenever he saw his book, sold 100 plus million copies. And when he started with that book, it wasn't selling like that it took him I think it was eight years to hit the New York Times list which is unheard of usually either hit Again, but every day he set intentions. But what was unique that he did differently is he didn't say, I am a best selling author, he actually did it from the perspective of a publisher calling him and saying, Hey, John, just want to let you know the books rising up the list or from a couple, thanks for sharing your message that saved our marriage. So he did it. Like it was another person. I thought that was so unique. So on the way to interview, Lisa Nichols, I did the same thing. And I acted as if I was Lisa Nichols. And I said something to the effect of Cory, thank you for your interview. You're a gifted interviewer, something like that. And I can send it to you, you can air this clip, if you want it on the show. Yeah, interview and I recorded myself on the way saying what he's going to do, because I thought, and I wanted it to be time stamped, and because I thought, what if this works? Anyway, at the end of the interview, Lisa said something to the effect of thank you for your gift. We're doing a dance here together. I just finished doing 155 interviews, but your questions brought stuff at me. I've never shared my life before. It was like the same stuff. I said, but I mean, that's more I guess, more manifest manifesting. But my point is, that's the kind of stuff I've seen. So how do you deny that, but here is the biggest one. There was a bunch of these that happen. But this is the big one that I always talked about, is I was supposed to interview a guy. And I won't go into detail, but let's just say he was a UFC fighter, I suppose the interview in in Miami. He gave me a dress, it was the wrong address. So he said like Southeast, it was supposed to be northeast. So I show up at the place on time. And it's like a burndown building. Okay, so I'm pretty sure the building didn't burn down. So I'm like, I feel like I'm at the wrong place. So I messaged him, he said, oh, sorry, crap. Didn't mean to that, bro. I gave you the wrong address. And so he said, it's actually whatever southeast or whatever the opposite one was. I said, Well, it's gonna take me like an hour and a half because I just typed it in. I said, are you gonna be able to stay there? Because I planned the whole day around his interview. And he's like, no problem, but and I got about five minutes away from his office, I heard a ding. I pulled over checked it. It said, Sorry, champ had to bail had something. And so I was like, I'm gonna make lemonade. So I like my thinking is I'm just gonna go to the beach. I don't live in Miami. So I'm gonna go to the beach. And the university side of that was wrong. So what happened was a friend of mine. She sends me a text. And she said, do you say you're Miami now? And I said, Yeah, she goes, remember that guy? I told you, I want you to interview in Miami. Interview. Sorry. And I said, Yeah. She said, I told you to have to do in Toronto, because that's where he's at. She said, I said, Yeah. She said, Well, him and his wife broke up, and he moved back to Miami. And she said, Is there any chance this weekend, you could do an interview? And I said, Actually, I'm driving to Orlando tomorrow. Today's the only day. And I said it's a Friday? I mean, it's two hours, like, we're almost the afternoon. I said, it's two hours from now to try to work at all, it probably won't happen. She said, Well, let me try anyway. So she sent him a text. And he said, she told the situation, and he wanted to be involved, because he's a fan of the self esteem and stuff. And he came back. So you're not gonna believe this. But I had four or three things that was scheduled today. All got canceled one way, shape, or form. He said, My whole afternoon is free now. And so I was like, wow, I said, but we don't have a place. Now. We're doing this to her. I hadn't talked to him yet. I said, we don't have a place. And I said, usually I book a place that we can be at or their place or whatever. And she said he came back and said, What about a music studio? And I said, Oh my god, I'm a musician. I love music. He said, the places where he recorded like, so I get to find out. That's where he recorded with everybody like Michael Jackson, Jay Z, Beyonce. And it's like one of the last known epic studios in the world. With him facing the master like the the master board that he would have recorded the it was just like epic. So that's not even the big part. So we do the interview, build a great relationship. We've done stuff since two hours of hanging out two hours of the actual interview. As I'm leaving, he says, Who else do you want for this? I said, No, we just met, I'm not going to, you know, I don't want to use that. He said, No, no, I'm serious. Who else do you want for this? They said, I don't want abuse that he said, Well, how about this? No. I said, haven't this you sent me a text? If you think of somebody and and I'll jump on it, but I don't want you to worry about it. So he sent me a text. I get back to the hotel a couple hours later, he says How about Les Brown and Bob Proctor?

Oh, my goodness. I said, Yeah.

And so he sent texts, each of them within two days, both like one was the manager one was directly them came back said anything for him. So lock the interview done. And since then, I've done with last I've done probably five interviews. My point is Alicia, none of that happens. So you'd asked earlier, how did I get these interviews? None of that happens without the synchronicity. Now again, because of who I am, meaning I'm a football, I probably would have still found a way to get the last but it wouldn't have been the same relationship wouldn't happen the same way. He might not have done multiple because part of it was this is a guy he loves who's saying Korea's doing this great project, you got to be a part of it. But think of it that and by the way, lesson Bob and landed other people and asked me but other people, how do I connect you to this person? Well, again, if you think about that, to follow this whole path, the Maione it all goes back to that Oracle who said I was going to be my girlfriend who says you should interview James Redfield, who says we well we had him and I had said together we should do a documentary. We then I tell people better just say you need to go interview so and so we then connect me with so and so.

Yeah, and then It's really funny because you know, I've put my myself publicly out there that I somehow spent 24 hours with God, I know how crazy that sounds. So for any listeners who are just hearing this for the first time, you go to Episode 57 through 59 of this podcast, you can hear it. But I literally said it was like experiencing the self esteem prophecy. I was I was, it was in a space that things were happening so fast, I couldn't even think before they happened. And it was like, I felt like a raise my frequency to a point that I was able to then see this other dimension that was being called heaven on earth. And that's like, I was just like, Oh, my goodness. So when you told me this, I was like, you don't even realize the level of my irony that connects us?

Well, and you know, I guess I, I definitely, I'm a big person. I like when I start a thread. I definitely for people listening, I always think as a listener, I hope they come back to that one thing. And I'm always that person that like, didn't go back to that. So as I'm thinking of this, I realized I need to finish the I need to put the period on the end of the blue talks thing, how does this connect a detox? Because I like I said, if not, I'll probably forget, and then we'll run at a time. So I only say that, because I agree with you completely. And I'll just finish off with the blue talks. So without saying the name, one of the people that I met on that journey that I was doing the interviews that had signed up for, for our program, helping people land their brand detox, like a TEDx talk. And she is one of the people that came to me and said, like, what I talked about is very spiritual, and TEDx. That's not really their wheelhouse. And so that started the thing of, of harassing me. And then me asking other people, is this something people have an interest in? Which ultimately, quite a few people said, Yeah, I wish there was like, a branded talk where you could do everything for us. And then also other people saying, I wish there was like a spiritual TEDx type stage. And that those two things became the catalyst for ultimately creating blue talks. So again, you can see where if that person didn't bring that up, maybe I still am doing helping people and other brand detox and our speaking program and all that but never blew tox Yeah. It all it all is related back to that. And

it's so funny because DeAndre Endo, who I know she did your blue talks, in addition to Roslyn, Roslyn was in my Akashic Record course. That's how I met Roslyn. And Dan. For those that don't know, what the Akashic is the Akashic is his incredible soul record. Have you done an Akashic with Dan?

I have Yes, I have.

It's very funny, because when it was how I was divinely connected to her, but it was during my Akashic because I have a memoir that I'm writing about this whole experience, but it came out you need to create a compilation book first. So that's this compilation book that's finally coming out. So it's like, if we can't, I mean, really, it's like, we can't make this stuff up. If we tried. I'm gonna put it out there, I hope I hope you can be a guest co host. And we can bring James Redfield on here, because I'm like, his book is literally what my irony is, and I'll never forget when I was like, Oh, my God, the self esteem prophecy is living like basically my Rooney in action, like, unbelievable, you know, but it's just a fun, you know, the whole idea with my irony is that it's just a more fun, modern day word that people can connect to. And my goal is that people share their ironies, in addition to their selfies on social media and create a whole new form of content.

I love it. And, and I do love the idea of the motion part like actually taking action, because in one of my books I wrote, I talked about the secret. And it was to say, you know, the secret changed a lot of lives. And at the same time, I shared one of the things I thought it could have done differently. And I say this, I understand now, you're limited to an hour and a half, you pick what you think is going to appeal to most people. But the one thing I felt was missing was the action part. And I'm not alone. I've interviewed a number of people that were in the secret Lisa Nichols. I love what she says. I asked her about it. And she said that I looked at it like this. She said for two years, I went and talked about the action part after the secret came out because I felt it was missing. And she said, I look at like this, you can have the best vision board in the world, you could look like a pretty one. You could watch it every day for a year and sit on your couch. And she said at the end of the year, all you're going to have is a lump on your couch if you don't get up and do anything.

Yeah, actually, when you when you bring that up, that absolutely makes sense. Because it's like people think, oh, I can just think it and manifest it. No, you got to do something to make it happen. Right?

You're gonna get I always say like, it's like, if it's going down a road, it could just literally go right the other road behind beside you. If you don't step over and say, Hey, I'm here. I'm waiting for my gift, whatever it was. So you have to take action, I believe. And and I mean, I know I have lots of stories where the action is what made the attraction happen. And so you know, just anything and the reason I brought that up is because when you talk about synchronicity, emotion, think about that story I mentioned earlier, but this guy who didn't show up and you know, knocked to him, I ended up interviewing him since, but couldn't didn't make it happen for whatever reason, I wasn't meant to interview him that day.

Because you you never would have gotten all this other you know, it is it's amazing how the universe or you know, I say God in a more personal way, it's just your whatever relationship but you know, it's like, there's a humor behind it, you know. And it's like, if you can start seeing how unbelievable and I also like to say, it's almost like when we try to push on doors that are just not opening, it's almost like wait for the door to open, but he got to walk through. So that's what you were able to do.

Absolutely. And I want to one thing I want to say too, which I think is really important for people to understand, because it took me a long time to get this. But I will say the reason I even mentioned the synchronicity in motion is if you think back to that guy that I interviewed that said, Hey, do you want me to connect you so and so it comes back to like we talked with the action? Well, what how I look at it now is the universe was saying, Hey, I'm making this happen on a Friday, even though it should never happen. But there's lots of people that that happens to me when I'm gonna go to the beach anyway. Sorry. Right? In other words, the universe is saying, Here you go, Here's your gift. Yeah. And they're saying, now I'm gonna go to the beach. And then they just say, like, they in their head, they're like, Well, that wasn't a synchronicity. Because, you know, there's nothing to do that. But that's because they didn't act on it. It wasn't because they didn't take the action. So first of all, I think it's important that we do act like everything I told you, but I acted on those things. Like, the lady said, You're gonna meet some of the prominent ELLs Well, what if her and I didn't ever pursue the relationship, then none of that stuff happens. And so I think you have to act on it. But the other side is, I think you have to be flexible. This is the other thing I learned when and I'll go to alkanet interchange the manifesting and synchronicity, you have to be flexible with how they're delivered, they might not come in the package that you asked for. So what I'm getting at is that, well, here's an I mean, I can use the same story again, the guy, the UFC guy, that was the package I asked for, I reached out and took action. That's why I want to interview and the universe said, now, we think you deserve this, because it's a better move for you. And so I love when people finally started moving away, around manifesting from saying, I have this, like I have very, like, very specific, I have this kind of car. And then what happens is they block themselves off from any other thing that could be better. So I love when people started saying, I have this or something better. Those are the key words, because that allows you to realize it may not look like what you thought at all, but the universe has your back. And I say this, by the way I interchange like they're two totally different things. But I believe it's the same with my journey and synchronicity, it's the same with attraction is that it might not come in the package you expect, it might not look like a synchronicity. But you could have a choice, you still have a choice of saying, I'm on board with acting on this quote unquote, synchronicity, or like I said, I'm gonna go to the beach in Miami instead. And so I just want people to recognize that, at the end of the day, you have to be flexible, you have to maybe be you're so specific and saying I want this amount of money or what have you. But it could be or something better. Because maybe maybe instead of the money, you get a resource that gets you brings you to more of the abundance than you even ever thought possible. And so I just want people in their thinking about this stuff act when it happens. By the way, write it down or talk about it or say thanks for the universe, because that's the action it talks about is, is actually letting the universe know you are happy with this, because it'll give you more. So what I started doing is I started doing a journal, like actually writing them down. And it's really cool to go back and say, Wow, that just happened. And sometimes I don't know what they mean. So this is one thing I struggled with. And I'd love to get your take on the numbers thing. But I struggled with the idea of everybody going, I saw 111 and, and I'm on board that the universe telling us something. But so many people say I saw 111 and amazing, but I'm like and like but what does that mean? Like? What does that tell you? You're on the right path. Does that tell you? I had somebody say recently, I thought that was pretty cool. She said that tells you that right now is the most in tune you are so now is when you should be asking for something to manifest because the universe you're aligned. You just saw that. But because like the flip side of that skeptic could say, well, it's 111, two times a day, of course you're gonna see it, you know. So what I'm getting at is I'm always intrigued by that side of it as well, like the fact that there's certain synchronicities, you have to kind of read into what you think they mean. So as an example, I haven't listened through or heard Tina Turner on the radio, and I can't tell you how long and recently I went to a flea market. And I saw Tina Turner and I don't know what made me say I'm gonna buy that CD. And I wasn't even really that big of a Tina Turner person, but I bought it anyway. And then the next day, I heard Tina Turner twice on the radio. Now I can't remember the last time I heard her. And then we were on Blu tox event virtual event. And I came up with a third thing something else happen with Tina Turner. Anyway, and so I brought it up to this lady. And she said, I don't know how she figured this out. But she said I think it's a it's to do with your mother. It's something as a message about your mother. And then Shelley said, Oh yeah Doesn't your brother always talk with Tina Turner? The interesting thing is my mother's only seen like three concerts in her life. She doesn't like music. And to this day, if you bring up Tina Turner, she goes on about that the best the best concert was ever put on in history. So like, I don't have to know probably what that means. But like, how cool is that? That that's all linked. And then she would say maybe with your mother, and then she doesn't know this backstory, my mother always talking to Tina Turner. And then I'll give you one more. And I know I didn't give you a chance to respond to the things but I get passionate about this. Yeah, you'll love this. I think we were and I'll tell us really quick. But we this is part of the same thing. Tina Turner time this other synchronicity happened. We were going to we were deciding if we want to get a dog for our kids. And I went on on tour for I went to a friend, we were looking at a certain type of dog. I went to a friend we knew at the dog. And I said, Do you know what the name of that lady is again, that breeds those dogs? And he came back and said, Yeah, and I said, Well, what what's the dog look like? So we know how big they'll get. And he stepped back. He said, This is Luna. So that was the name. And then so I started looking online. My girlfriend was looking we're looking for certain types of dogs. And we found this post this add on like almost like Craigslist, but it was like Kijiji in Canada, and it was a dog from Western Canada. And we were going up there. So like, we're like maybe we have to go there to find the dog. We want to bring it back home. Anyway, this dog, his name was Luna. Now we knew it wasn't right for us, because this was like three months before we'd be able to get it. And obviously they're gonna find a home before that. But it was the name was Luna. So I'm like twice, Luna. That's weird. Anyway, then we go and do our blue tox event. And one of the ladies on is talking about this documentary or film she did. So we go watch the film later on the next day. Her character's name is Luna.

And next day, we're on Blu tox. We tell this lady who's into synchronicities that about this and she goes, You're not gonna believe this. But my daughter's dog's name is Luna. And there's a fifth one that I'm forgetting. But what I'm going to tell you is, I don't remember hearing the dog named Luna in my life before. And while we're trying to decide, do we want to get a dog? We're hearing the name over and over. And then finally, the lady who we talked about the synchronous thing that dog Shelley got a message from the lady saying do you know if you want to take the dog and re to she's got that message, the lady who was on the call with us sent me a message and said and by the way, get the friggin dog. It's like the universe just answered the question the lady just asked. So how can you write this stuff? Anyway, that's my two stories in a row. But this stuff happens to me now Alicia daily, and maybe it was happening always and I missed it. Or am I bringing more of it now because I'm aware I have no idea.

It's because you have the awareness. And then the first episode I literally it's called I called discover my irony and your inner superpower because when you start connecting and you start paying attention, most people aren't able they don't see it. So when you want to talk about the numbers, because there were very significant numbers, I'm just going to give you a quick story about this is that one of my numbers is 822. And 821 was the name of my former restaurant where my life fell apart a 22 was the day I ended up getting married at the same hospital. I was born and engaged and you know, like I was born engaged and married in the same hospital like you know, how the heck does that happen? So anybody listened to the first episode? But here's what's so funny is that so a 22 years later, I was kind of like a 21 I challenge God 822 God showed up because on 821 It was torrential downpour, there was only this option of having the reception in the in the courtyard of this hospital. And each way to was like a California day in New Jersey, which was unheard of on in the end of August. No humidity like it was just the most a typical day possible. And so what was really funny is, it was actually I just noticed you had just released on June 1. It was June 1 of 2020. I was woken up in the middle of the night I have a very strong gift of Claire cognizance, this gift of knowing, and I'm like, What am I doing? And so you've heard a little bit about these channeled messages that I did not channel but I know what to do with them. And I was guided to like, check this one out and then go to Facebook. And there was this guy Neale Donald Walsch, I'd never heard of Neale Donald Walsch before. 822,000 followers, and I was like, and I took a picture of this. So that's the funny thing. Cory like you timestamp, I timestamp as much as I can. So I have a picture of the time of when this all happened. And I'm like 820,000 followers. So it's like, what is this? And I had only heard of conversations with God one other time, months before so this is why it's so funny. Pay attention. And then you know, I go click on who this guy is and conversations with God, you know, hears me say and I've spent 24 hours with God and I was like, What the heck is going on this before I started my podcast is before anything, and then I go to Amazon to order at six minutes to order the book for the next day Six is my lucky number. It's really funny that we were talking about manifestation because it was in that book that I discovered the real way of manifesting because I actually always kind of felt manifestation as almost like a selfish thing like, oh, I want this and I deserve it, you know, and I'm gonna make it happen. I've always been like, if it's meant to be the will be, and you know, it's not up to me to be in that space. Like I, of course, I'm going to make whatever happen, but I'm going to give it to a higher power of how it happens. And so in the book, it was saying, to really manifest is to act, as soon as you think you've killed the ACH. So that's what I started doing. I started living that more and more. But I also it was funny, there was a book called The Light Between us by Laura and Lynn Jackson, I don't know if you know, she's actually a psychic medium, fascinating book, you probably would really enjoy it because she talks about how she discovered her gifts as a medium, but she has all the clear, you know, all the Claire's, but she said her gift of knowing was her biggest one. Now, here's the funny thing for like, I don't know, six months or a year, I kept seeing Jackson, Jackson Jackson. I'm like, What's up with Jackson? Well, my dad who passed away his name was Jack, and my mom's pet name for him was Jackson. And I'm like, but what is Jackson? And then Laura Lynn Jackson is the one who introduced me to the gift of knowing I was like, oh, shoot, that's what I have. So I started living in that rather than questioning it. So I feel like your gifts are coming out more and more. Because once you have the awareness, it's literally you gain like your little superpower.

Absolutely, I agree completely. And I will say to that, it Well, first of all, I'll say what's interesting, too, is recognizing so like, I still go back to this idea, too, that sometimes what you think you need is not what is destined for you. And so I want to give like I'm all about in which we've been talking about this whole time strategy around how do you do this? So strategy around? How do you create more money? And how do you what we're talking about? Like? How do you avoid it just being a coincidence, because you ignored it, and it actually becoming something. And so I'll give you a real time example, because just happened today. And so this is, this is the difference between now and in the past. So I'm going to share with people why I think these things happen for me now, so that you can see how you can do this in your life is I reached out about doing an interview. And I said I'm doing a new show. So I won't say the name. But I'll just say this, and some people will probably guess, but I'll just say a famous boxer. I'm just gonna leave it at that I went out to and I was talking to their PR person. I knew them from before, but I was talking to the PR person. And they're right now pitching it to them. So I'm waiting to hear back. And then I asked I went on their website, and I noticed they had somebody else that I've wanted to interview for a while I noticed they were representing that. And I went nasty with them. And they said, Well, right now they're on a break from us, like as you probably know, sometimes PR like people will hire them for six months and then not have. So they said we'll send it to their management team. But right now we're not working with them. Then today, they come back and say, Here's somebody else, though, if you're interested. And so here's where it gets interesting with my attorney. Because years ago, I would have went well, no, I went for those two people. And I don't know this person you're offering up to me. So I, you know, I want to bring on somebody that that. I know because I in my own head I think well, you know, a lot of people know this person. And I would so I'm saying is admittedly I would shut it down and wasn't like I don't think like an influencer is better than a person that doesn't that doesn't think influence even exists or should exist. You know, there's people I know that think it's all garbage. Like think like a motivational speaker. That's all hogwash. Well, it's not for me to judge everybody's equal 100%. I love like I said, learning from people that have reached the top of the field or people I've studied for years and watch their work. And so I was just kind of thinking, well, I want to if I can only have one guest a week, that means I can only have 50 a year, I'm really specific about who it is. And so I would, I would basically kind of shut that out and not interview that person. But now the difference. So this is the difference. Now I say is it like they even though I asked her the person, they didn't have to come back and offer anybody else. So the fact that they did is that the universe saying this is a person you need to interview? Yeah. But you need to interview them. There's some reason you don't have to know why. And so that's the difference. So that's the motion, the emotion like I could ignore that and go nope, on purpose. And by the way, there's lots of thought leaders that do that. Like, specifically, I want him to read these like as an example. You know, some of the bigger names like Lewis Howes on his show, he has specifically here's why the interviewer, I'm looking for these type of guests, and there's nothing wrong with that, and that serves him and works really well. And I was kind of on that path. But now and I'm not saying like I No, I'm sure that he probably if somebody that he knows as you'd need to meet this person, then they might jump the queue over somebody that's really famous that we all know. So I'm not saying he, you know, shuts anything out, but I'm certainly if he only has certain episodes, he looks for certain criteria. Well, I used to as well. But now I'm like, how did this person make? How did this person break through all that? Like, in other words, why did this publicist say, Cory? What about this person? That's to me, that's him knocking on the door, saying, hey, I need to be on your show. You don't know why. But I so of course, it's going to be an all it's going to be a heck yes. Yeah. And here's the difference. Not only will it be a heck yes. Where it would have been a heck not a heck no, before it would have just been No, not for now. It's not only a heck yes. I'm not even gonna research them on the Yes. I'm just gonna say heck, yes. Because the universe wouldn't lie to me that's never failed. I might, I might be different. If I did that. And one out of every four times, it was like, Oh, why did I do that? That was crappy. No, it's always been a good experience. It's always been something where I'm like, wow, that's why it happened. So it's a yes, I'm not going to look up and say how many followers and all that stuff? No, it doesn't matter.

So that's to me, that's the real world, it really inaction is making no one that happens and thanking the universe or writing it down, or whatever that looks like to you. It's recognizing that the universe is trying to give you get your attention. It's being flexible, that it might not come in the package, you think it should, but the universe is giving you something better, you know, it's you might not get the certain job you think you deserve. And then eight months later, you get another job, where it's a better job, or you meet the love of your life. And you wouldn't imagine that that other job, the first one, you really want it. So that's kind of, you know, if I were doing summaries, that's kind of like my summary of the things I think, I wish I would have known years ago, but I know it now. And that's what matters.

Well, and you also weren't supposed to know it years ago, because you were meant to find the journey because it really, you know, it's so crazy. Because when people hear my story, I somehow chose it. Because when I was 16 years old, I had this little voice inside my head said go to Delaware, I'd never been to the seat. Why did I want to go I only applied to to colleges, why? I was meant to go down this destiny i was meant to, you know, I literally said I had to go back my my married name wasn't my ironic, I had to go back to my Ronix bring my Rooney to the world. So it ended up on all the difficult times have been like the greatest gift. But it is always looking, there's something bigger, there's something bigger. And so that's what I just I so happy. And it's really funny, because you kept showing up and showing up. And I kept being told no, not yet. Not yet. You know, wait. And then then when Ross was when Ross was like, Hey, I'm gonna you guys don't know each other. And then look at what happened, we made this happen so fast. I know, there's so much more, because it is about bringing this awareness because when people can start connecting to it, it literally does create miracles in your life and in others. And it's like, you have no idea what the possibility is. So I'm just so honored. And I like to to now know you and I'm just excited that you like you get it. And like so many people, like we just have to keep sharing this, you know, because this is not my word. I'm just a messenger of the word. It just so happens that my last name is pronounced that way. But you know, everybody gets to have these moronic experiences. So I just am so grateful, Cory, and how can people connect with you, you know, to work with you. And just and I mean, you're just doing so many things.

Well, thank you so much. And I always say probably the best kind of a call caller gateway or starting point. I mean, obviously, I'm on all the social, like I say all the social channels on LinkedIn. So you can find me there, my name is Unique enough that even if you search and get even one letter wrong, you'll still find me. But you got boring for a on LinkedIn, Facebook, Instagram, those are kind of the main three that I spend my time on, you'll find me there, of course, and I could give you a website. But instead I'd like to give a gift away, and it's free. But I think that will serve you better meaning you the listener viewer. So I kind of to actually one, if your path is that you love to, you know, you want to communicate better with people you want to, you know, get your message heard more, all that kind of stuff. We have a book that a person can grab, the name is actually changing. It was called the Book of public speaking. But now it's more defined, it's called get paid to speak. And so it's really designed to help you learn how people build speaking and communication businesses. But it's really surrounded by the fact that I'm trying to help people influence our lives and the stage just happens to be one of those so people can grab a free copy of that at the book of public speaking.com. So that's one option. You go there you get the free book, it'll come to you it's a digital book, it'll come right away. The second option if if written book reading or read Book or digital book is not your thing. A second option is I have a book called The Book of why and how. And I mean, essentially, it's, it's written in three acts. And it's basically how do you find your why? Or your calling? When you found it? What do you do with it? And then finally, how do you sleep at night while doing it? And it's a book where I talked about the law of action. You know what I mentioned that earlier, that's the book Right? Talk about it. And so what I'd like to do is give people the free audio book for that. And so it's simply the book of why audio.com. So, those two places you can get a free gift of either one, and then you'll be in my community. But the other option is, if that's not your thing, just go on any of the social things reach out, say hi, say you heard me on the show. And tell me about your money, maybe. And then same time, you know, add me or send a friend request or anything like those. And I'm always I'm always very accessible.

Well, thank you, Cory. I'm definitely good to have you back on the show. I mean, you're so amazing. And like I said, I'd love for you to be a guest co host to bring on some cool people to share their my ironies? Because it is it's the story behind it. How do people get to where they are, and so many people don't necessarily look at the smallest of the details that got them to where they are. And that's what's so fun about many people don't they don't recognize until they start telling it and they're like, oh, wait a second, this other thing happened, this other thing happened. And what if we get everybody to start living in that greater awareness? I'm like, we're just gonna ignite all our superpowers together. So

100% And, and I will just add one last thing is, I've been a spiritual skeptic for half my life. I get it when people are like this. None of this stuff makes sense to me. But to your point, I wasn't ready, then. I am ready now. So I used to try to think how can I sort of convince someone, but now I realize they're just not ready yet. Yeah, they will. At some point, eventually. I don't think every person in the world ever like based unless the whole thing changes. I don't think Eric necessarily every person in the world, but I do believe a large percentage of people over time will eventually this will be common. common terminology, we'll be talking this like, just like we talked about going in for by dt.

election, I just hope that you start sharing the word with your community. Because you know, my irony is literally the opposite of selfie, it's recognizing something bigger than ourselves. But you can take absolutely captured on social media, you know, and that's why it's the hashtag. That's my irony. Or the book is gonna be got my ready. So well. Thank you. Again, Cory. This has been so amazing. And to the listeners, I'll see you next time.