“Myrony Musings with Musicians” with Corey Glover of Living Colour!!

Hi, and welcome to the That's Myrony podcast. My name's Alysha Myronuk and I am your host and creator of this fun new concept. But first, what exactly is a myrony? Well, my irony or myrony, are those crazy coincidences that happen in life that you just can't explain. It's also another word for sign or synchronicity. We've all experienced these throughout our lives. But what if you started paying closer attention to your ironies? What if you started connecting the dots, or, as I like to say, follow the spiritual breadcrumbs that could have an impact so big that it changes your life forever, not to mention the lives of others. Now, that's Myrony.

Everyone, welcome back to That's Myrony podcast. I am so excited because today is the kickoff for, kind of in addition to that's my irony, and it's called My irony, musings with musicians with my dear friend, who's also now going to be my guest co host, Alan Jack's hours. So if you want to hear the story of Alan and I, you can go back to Episode 64. But today, our first guest for this series is Corey Glover, lead singer of living color. You don't know who that is the cult of personality, the voice behind that. So I am so excited and honored to have him be our first guest for this series. And from what I understand, he doesn't know anything about my irony. But a little bit about Cory, which you know, in most cases, you know who he is. And if you haven't heard who he is, and you don't know who Living Color is and all the other incredible musicians in that band, you definitely need to go check it out. But a little bit about Corey. He is an American singer, guitarist and actor. He's a lead vocalist of the rock band Living Color. He also was an actor where he was in the movie platoon. He was also in musical theater in Jesus Christ Superstar. So the list goes on and on as to how incredible Corey Glover is as as an as a singer as an actor in in all of the arts. So let's go connect with Alan again and go meet his very good friend Corey Glover. Hi, Cory. And Alan, thank you so much for joining me today on that's my Ernie podcast. So Cory, I am so beyond honored to have you as a guest. And I love the fact that Alan never told you anything about what this actually is.

Just said I should be on it. That's all.

Okay, perfect. So, um, a little bit about what my Renea so my name is Alicia, ironic. And I am the creator of this concept of minority my irony. But you take out the AI because it's not about AI. It's about we and something so much greater. So my irony are the crazy coincidences that happen in life that we can't explain. And it's a more modern day word for synchronicity. However, it has its own definition, it's synchronicity in motion, you see a sign and then there's an action to take in most cases it's just to have a conversation. So everyone has these my ironic experiences just not the way I spell my last name. That's my ready. So my goal and maybe you can help me if you enjoy this is to have people start sharing their Miran ease in addition to their selfies on social media, because it's a whole new form of content to, to connect to. And so Alan and I have been friends since high school we've been we've been like just we are like best soul friends. Like we have a connection where the phone would ring or the phone wouldn't even rang we would pick it up, you know, when we had those fricken, you know, a real phone. And so the whole storyline. So he just did his episode, just the other week. And we were we were talking about we've took a total trip down memory lane. And it's so amazing because Alan has had such incredible experiences with musicians including yourself. And so Alan is now a guest. He's my guest co hosts which I call this now, my rainy musings with musicians with my guest co host Alan Jax BOWERS And so you are our first guest. So thank you, Corey Glover for joining us. Thank you So I want to share a really funny story is that I remember and Alan you'll have to, I think my memory serves me right. But we were because Al and I were a year apart so he was a year ahead of me. And I remember when he went to see Living Color at I believe it was wreckers wasn't it, Alan?

Yeah, I think it may have been before that, but I Koryo love this. The Rutgers show that I think she's referencing, I don't know if it's the one she's talking about, but I believe it was the first one we ever saw Doug. So I think it was in 93 after stain came out, right? Yeah. Yeah, I remember that was a different thing for Pete and I. And it was great seeing you guys. But we stood right in front of Doug. And it was like, Oh, good, Lord. This has changed a little bit.

Things are gonna be different now. Yeah.

Yeah. Well, the funny thing is, is that and that is the show, I told her remember, it was 93. And, and, I mean, Alan was the biggest fan of living color, like the biggest fan, like unbelievable. So then years later, when I hear how you guys have connected, and now you're in a band together the big star band, I was like, how is that even possible? How do you get to play with, you know, one of like, one of your idols and know everybody, so that's kind of the story I want to hear today. So Cory, I have to ask how living color actually came into existence because I have to say your music is so unbelievably. I mean, to this day, there's no one that sounds like you guys. So

thank you, thank you. Um, luckily, before I got in the band living coexisted from like 1983, I believe burnin was very put this band together and but he was doing it sort of part time. He was working with this jazz artist, Ronald Shannon Jackson drummer. And he was doing that a lot of that. And then it sort of had a lot of different members that sort of came through, at some point. And, and toward the, like the mid 80s. I met Vernon, at a birthday party. Ah, I was a friend of mine was having a birthday appointment for West Side. It's on Central Park West, actually, and ran happened to be off the road. He had been playing with someone I forget who, um, I think it was Joe Bowie and defunct. And he was off the road for a little while. And the sisters, one of his sisters complained about him not hanging out with them anymore. Because he's also grown up and he's got a job and he's worth running around. Don't hang out. So he said, I'm here this weekend. What do you want to do? So well, friend of mine is having a birthday party. For instance, with Park West. Why don't you come with me? So he showed up? Um, I was there. Because at one time, we were I dated this woman. And we had stopped dating for a while. And but she invited me to a birthday party anyway. Because it wasn't a really good break really good. You know, breakup. Anyway. So she, as the story goes, they bring up this birthday cake in it, and everyone's about to sing happy birthday. And she said, Stop. Look, nobody's saying chorus singing Happy Birthday. This is myrony. This is

this is exactly what my irony is. I love it even more.

So she says no one was saying happy birthday. You were saying? So I say happy birthday. And at the end, you know, Brian, and I struck up a conversation. There's like a real like that, that your interpretation of the song. It's like, well, thanks. It's like, do you do this professional? It's like, I started do this professionally, do you? And he explained to me, I'm a musician. I'd love to get your number. And we can work on something at some point. And I said, No problem. That's fine. I gave him my number as my it's like my home numbers. But phones, you know, there's like way before and I was still living with my parents. I had my own phone and on a phone line in my parents house. So it was fine. Um, and, you know, like, three months, six months later, he calls me and says you know, I my band needs a singer and I I immediately thought of you, could you come down and check out some of this music. And unbeknownst to me, Brian live like, five blocks away from me gets even better. Right? We live we basically live in the same neighborhood, we have lived in the same neighborhood, all of our lives, but basically, so I went over to his house, and I listened to some of the music I heard, you know, early demo versions of songs, like I want to know and funny vibe, nice. Stuff like that. And I listened to it and, and went over it, we played, and we sang some, it's like, Okay, here's the deal. Um, it's between you and someone else. And I'll let you know either way when somebody else when, what decision we made this because they have to mean something. And I just tell the band members, we got to have have them see what it sounds like. So a month goes by another two months goes by, I get a phone call from Verizon again. It's like, here's the deal. Our singer can't do the gig. Um, can you fill in for him for just this? This one gig? Yeah, sure. No problem. Yeah, why not? Yeah. I know the songs now. Might as well. And he saw, he said, Okay, I rehearse in Bushwick. He took me to their to his rehearsal space. And I met the two of the band members at met JT Lewis. And I call James, who, at that time, the bass player and the drummer in the band. And we did the gig in my first gig with living close at CBGBs. So that was all fun. That was great. That was wonderful. But as like, he was like, Okay, thanks, basically, like, cuz we got a singer and I don't know if the same instrument back and, and but the singer never came back. And then I got called again. It's like, he says, he's got this gig, he's playing with Steve Winwood. He's not gonna be around for another six or seven months. So you wanted to take over, I was like, Okay, no problem. And that's basically how I got in the band. Um, and while we were doing this, you know, I was a professional actor. I am. So, you know, and I had been a professional, it says about 15. And I was doing the circuit and making auditions doing commercial work and stuff like that. And I got the gig to do platoon. Um, the problem with it was, is that instead of having, like, a week, two weeks to prepare, I got the gig on a Monday and I was leaving on a Tuesday. So I was flying to the Philippines for a month, three months. And then I didn't know it was gonna be three months, I thought was gonna be like, a month ago. Nine weeks, they said, um, and so I had to go tell Vernon down the block until Vernon. Look, I got good news. And I got bad news.

Once you want first, right.

And he was like, issued and he's like, no problem. It shouldn't take it. If it doesn't take that long. It's fine. When you get back, we'll get back to work. Good for you. Cool. So I was gone for three months, left in less than like, early February came back in May. Um, they had had a good yet they had a good in Europe that they were looking to do. And they call the old singer back. The singer they had hired in the first place to do that gig. And then I came back and then we were working in earnest and trying to get a record deal. And you know, it took us about six months and the bass player and the drummer left at that point, and then you know, um, will came Oh, And then, like a month later mozzie showed up. And then we got to deal like, three or four months later. So a band was formed. We got we were solid, we worked really well together, it was fine. And then we, the rest, as they say, is history. And that was 34 years ago, 3435 years ago that this always happened. Yeah. The first three of vivid was

as the other day, right?

I thought may 3, right. A third. Yeah. That is the best story ever. Like how many people actually know that true, true story. That's so incredible. And that's actually the concept of myrony. I like to call them spiritual breadcrumbs. Sometimes it's like a giant loaf of bread that literally hits you over the head. And sometimes it's the smallest crumb that as long as you pay attention. And you have that conversation. It's like, it leads to the most magical, miraculous things, right. And I always like to say it's the divine design that interweaves us together because it's not on a surface level. I mean, you hear that story. It's going all different directions. Cory I didn't realize because when I saw your you know, Wikipedia that you were in platoon, I didn't realize you were in platoon before you were living color. And like, I didn't realize that you were a professional actor before being you know, six, bonafide rock star like that.

Um, that was, like I said, I'd do it since I was like, 14 or 15. Um, and I wanted you know, what, I went to went to high school for the for the Performing Arts. I didn't go to the performing arts high school, I went to another Oh, okay. Um, and, you know, that was what I wanted. I wanted to be in the arts, in some way, shape, or form. And, you know, and that's what, you know, my motivation was to continue just to work and knock on wood I did.

So saying was just a passion. It wasn't something that you were necessarily going for you were originally going for to be an actor or

not as a singer. And I found acting as a way to sort of further my goals, you know, and honestly, what it was about was musical theater.

Okay. Yeah, I saw you were in Jesus Christ Superstar.

Absolutely. Wow. But yeah, so what I wanted to do was, you know, in superstar and that was like, my motivation for it. Which is ironic that I got that I actually got the part. Because when I'm

okay, so Cory, I'm gonna ask you to say the word. It's my ironic anything that's so crazy. It's my ironic now you have a better explanation of irony. It's like so crazy. That's what my irony is. My ironic, you got it. So I'm just gonna ask you just start using the word because it's super fun. It's like it but it is like you said that that was the reason you wanted and then you end up playing. I mean, that's amazing. And that's actually we're gonna connect how you and Alan connected. But like, you know, for the listeners here how this all happened. And like, Cory, I can't imagine your voice not being living color. I mean, your voice is so distinct. There's not a lot of people that as soon as you hear someone's voice you know who it is.

Yeah, I I found that out the hard way. I guess. I'm

Why do you say the hard way?

Because, you know, what, when you do certain things and you want to you want to expand your, you want to do other things, it's like, but you sound like that guy from that band. If I do this other project, if I do somebody else's work, it's like, yeah, but this all they're going to think about as living colors. Like, okay, that's a problem because not not at all. Not at all. For something beautiful to this because they want to hear they want their own sort of thing. And they want to sound they want to hear what that sounds like. So yeah, so it's it's myronic Oh them my

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god. Well, so I have to ask because your your living colors music is so deep so I mean, the words that the lyrics hits It's unbelievable. Who how was that collaboration in the sense of, you know, writing the lyrics? And I mean, yeah, you have the most amazing. Vernon Reid and will Calhoun and I mean, just, it's like, I want to come see you guys play. So Alan, we gotta figure out when they're totally. So? Yeah.

Well, you know, it's a collaborative effort, really, um, we get to, when we get together, even now, something sort of sparks the imagination, whether it's a groove, whether it's a song lyric, whether it's a, it's an idea, if we have a particular set of goals in mind, and and we want to come into such into a situation, open to the situation and leave with something in hand, start with nothing and come up with something, which is how, how it really should work. That, you know, the creation of something like culture, personality was, you know, just a, you know, a groove. And Vern had these lyrics. And we did some arrangements, and we did some, we did different versions of it. And we did over and over again. But by the time we started it, in this rehearsal space, it like, I don't know, like three o'clock, and by, you know, six o'clock that night, we had a song that we played that day, it's amazing. Like two days later, at CDs. So it was, you know, sometimes it's your imagination, sparks sparks it up, and things just appear. And I guess that's my ironic, but yes, it's, but that's how we sort of approach the idea of the creative idea. And sometimes it's, we go home, and, you know, you pick up a newspaper and you see some some interesting piece of news or whatever. And that's your inspiration to keep going and keep going. But since you're constantly being trying to be creative, and constantly trying to make something out of nothing, this is which what we do. We all

that is so amazing. And I just want to share with you because this actually is somewhat of a spiritual podcast in the sense that when you see my little wink, I call it a winky. That's how I represent God is love with an awesome sense of humor. And I do believe that when and I don't know where you are in your spiritual beliefs, if you want to share that you don't have to share that. But it's more like, I believe sometimes these inspiration, I mean, your me songs were meant for the world, you know, so like, it's almost like this. I just feel like it's like it was like a divine collaboration on how on because to create that in such a short period of time. Like, are you familiar with the book The Alchemist by Paulo Coelho?

Absolutely, yes.

So you I actually heard an interview that he did with Oprah, where he's like, I did not write that book. I that was absolutely, it was too profound. He's like, I wrote it in two weeks. Like, it just came out. And I always wonder that about music, you know, like, it's your, it's your creativity. But when things are really meant to be, it almost is like this. I do. I feel like it's this divine power that comes through, because where does creativity come from in the first place? You know, especially when it's like really, really profound, beautiful, unbelievable. The arts that come out, Hmm.

Well, you know, as a as a means of expression, we all have that sort of spark to say what's on your mind and in your head and on your heart at any given point in time. So we are the challenge is to be able to be honest with yourself. And, and hopefully that kind of thing will fall foul you in whatever endeavor you do. It doesn't have to necessarily have to be music. If you are, you know, a, you know, a house painter, you know, or a plumber, or if you're doing it authentically and doing it honestly. It will be real, the work will will be as good as your truth to that work is, um, and that's how we try to approach everything that we're doing. Like we're not looking to to anticipate what people think, just doing, we're just doing what we know.

Well, and it's a passion, I think that when we can find things that we're passionate about, and we're able to make a living from that, and that's actually one of the things I love about Alan, is that, you know, we joke about this, you know, he never really made it big in the music industry, but he's been able to have a very successful, you know, career, doing what he loves. And there's very few people that are able to do that. And it's like, it's just amazing, and he's got really freaking cool friends like you.

The question then becomes what is making it big means making it big as is the state of state of mind, you know, just because like you said, Alan's playing and doing what he loves to do. To me, that's, that's a success. What you see is absolutely successful. Um, that's big. That's a big thing. That's a big deal. It's a really big deal. Um, so, I, I had, you know, my goal in life is to just constantly be working, not particularly to be recognized for it, but to know that I'm doing something that I love, and I'm not really working, working a job that I don't understand and or care about.

Yeah, well, I mean, when you look at if you go to YouTube and Coulter personality, and you have 58 million views, I mean, the impact that you need, I was really curious, though, of how the lyrics came about. So Vern was the one that had the lyrics written out for you guys created it,

Bernie had written these lyrics. Because Joseph Stalin, I believe, wrote, wrote something about the cult of personality of, of Noah Khrushchev said something about Stalin be having a cult of personality. And that he was his, he was so compelling as a person, as an as a board, her and a philosopher, and whatever it was that he was doing, that people created a lifestyle around it, and created a world around it, that was a cult of personality, and that we, as human beings do that, in general, and Brennan wrote about that, that we could go from, we could look at something and invest our lives in it. That does not necessarily it's not necessarily yours, but you what you feel akin to it. At the time, we were thinking about all the ways in which people have attached themselves, their ideology to a person. Like they've personified a feeling or an idea about the world they live in. And that's what the motivation of the song was. And we all understood that we all understood the assignment, and we all motivate moved in that direction.

That's amazing. It's like, I'm so curious how many people really know the true story behind what you're sharing today? Have you had it? Have you been able to share that a lot with others?

Absolutely. I mean, for the time, and it seems that this idea is very evergreen, because we often find ourselves in social situations, in a political situations, and in personal situations, where we have where there is that idea of a cult personality exists. You know, I don't know how much how many times you know, we get requests from politicians to use the song. Um, ya know, absolutely what, um, and, you know, although the song itself does have a political sort of bent to it, meaning to it, it's not necessarily about that and by evidence of the fact you listen to you watch wrestling and you hear CM Punk who uses it as his, you know, stage entrance music. This is a wrestler, you know, what's one got to do with the other, but it has an impact, the song has an impact. So,

oh, that's an understatement about yourself that song having an impact? Absolutely. I mean, it is timeless forever. It's unbelievable. So any listeners that are, oh, goodness, what grade or what age would you be that you may not have heard this song? You need to hear living color, color personality and all the other songs though. So I have to ask after living color, like totally blew up. I mean, it got it that has to be kind of just so overwhelming, amazing. Like, you know, receiving a Grammy be on Saturday Night Live doing all those fun things. Like, is there anything that really stands out in your mind that when it really took off, you're just like, wow, I can't believe we got here.

It was very, you know, it was a very strange trip, you know? In that, you know, I live again, this all begin, we all were living with our parents. Um, and,

and I can I say how old you were when you guys kind of got together?

Um, most of us are in our mid 20s I think it's like 2324 I'm very was a little older. Um, but yeah, we were all like mid to late 20s at the time. And, you know, we are working musicians. So of course, we live with our parents because they had the electricity. True. So we were living at home with our parents, and you know, things are starting to sort of build with the song. And then there was the video on MTV and, you know, your, some become somewhat ubiquitous, but we're still living our lives as we live them as young man living in New York City, in the late 80s. So I'm on the subway. And you get recognized, but you know, okay, that's no big deal. You're, you know, you're walking the streets here. You're doing certain things, you know, um, when we got when we were doing, we were opening for the Rolling Stones in 1988 89, in 1989. And, you know, there was a break between the tours, like, we took, took a week off. So I went home. And, you know, my mother, as I came in the door was like, Hey, I'm home. Great, wonderful. Good for you. Here's some paint. Here's a brush. Do this do I love it. So I'm painting the stoop. And my friends drive by and walk by. It's like, wait, wait, wait, hold on, hold on. Say you're a rock star. Now I heard like, No, I'm picking the stoop. I'm just going painting the stoop right down. So that's what I'm doing. That's my job at the at this at this point. So um, yeah. So they were there. There are lots of places and lots of things, lots of places that it take took you. It takes took me and took all of us to into meeting very interesting people and saying very interesting things. But for me, the thing was that I don't think we ever got or felt like, this was it rockstars now, it's like, No, we got to keep working. You know, we're only as good or as successful. As much as we're working with a very sort of blue collar working class sort of idea about, we have to keep moving. We got to keep moving. And you can't rest on your laurels at all.

That's wonderful. I mean, to be so grounded, because I know it could probably take other people in such a different direction. Well, I have taken other people. Oh, yes, it goes so so to their head. So you have to have that groundedness when you're, you know that big. So that's amazing. So what happened? I mean, I know you guys, you guys broke or that you are you stopped the band for a bit then you reconnected in 2000. What were you doing after living color? stopped for a bit.

I put out a solo record called hymns.

Amazing. By the way. It's amazing. If you haven't listened to it, please go by oh,

I need to go listen to that. It's called hands. Wow. Yeah. Okay.

And so I was doing that brand that was going out, put out a solo record called mistaken identity. wheeling, Doug had a band called Head fake that they were doing and we were also that we all kept like I said, you got to keep working to keep doing it. And we just kept doing it. We just weren't doing it as live in color with the other people from living color. We just decided we needed to keep moving. So we were never snapped, we never stopped working. And once we got back together to do it as a unit again, once again was like, Okay, this is what we're going to do. And this is how we're going to do it. And we're going to, like we used to, and we're going to keep building. And we just haven't stopped since then. And it's been over 20 years now that I'm back together. Yeah.

Yeah, like to be that iconic. I mean, that's just incredible. I do want to ask, though, because you were able to be in what was what you aspired Jesus Christ Superstar. You were Judas Iscariot. Like, how did that come about? And how was that experience? I mean, because I know, musical theater is so completely different. I mean, the level of commitment, you know, of every single day, all the performances, like I've heard, it's just really, unbelievably challenging. But it is,

and we were doing it on the road. Like, we were, like, a real bus and trucks sort of thing. Oh, wow. It wasn't, so we were in someplace for a night and then move on, or we're in someplace for like, three nights and then and then move on. So we had it was, you know, um, we did that for about three months, three months, three months, the season would last about three to four months, and we need to take a break, and then come back another year and do it again. Um, but, you know, somebody, I never stopped acting and never stop, you know, pushing myself to be in to do the other things that, you know, I can do. And that was part of it. You know, so getting superstar was, you know, a lifelong dream do to do Jesus Christ Superstar in particular. That's a show, as I said, that was sort of like my motivation. My idea about singing, or singing rock music and theater was sort of formed by Jesus Christ Superstar and seeing the movie when I was a kid, my parents taking me to CG square. See, when I was a kid, and seeing Carl Anderson. In that role, I was like, I want to do that. I'd love to do that. You know, like, this is like a 10 year old seeing these superstars. That wouldn't be amazing to do. And jump cut 20 years later, and I am doing it with Ted Neely, you know from this from the movie. And

yeah, that's my

extremely my.

Yeah. Oh, yeah. Trying to get Alan to. He's connected to Atlantis Morissette and I want her I really would love her to rewrite. Isn't that my ironic song for this? Because it's it's so I know you're working on it. But big favorite

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me to ask it as a big favorite ask, but it's a really cool favorite. Because who's, you know, it's a brand new word, why not create a song around it? Now it's cool. Maybe you'll like to create a song around it. You guys create a song around it? That would actually be really cool. We could do that. That would be super fun. Yeah. So, um, but I well, I want to get into how you two are connected. But I also know there's another band. Yeah, galactic is that

I'm doing some stuff with Galactics out of New Orleans. Yeah. That was and they were gracious enough to ask me to come into play with them. And it worked out and we did like a year's worth of work on the road basically with him. Yeah, it was fun.

Well, that's cool. So okay, so now we're going to get into the moronic connection of you and Alan because this is where it gets really.

I don't have to talk anymore because now now Ali can tell tell the story.

Yeah, exactly. Exactly. You get to take a little break, Cory.

Well, in the first part of the podcast, I didn't send it to you specifically Cory because I didn't want you to know what was going on. Okay, left you a little bit dark, but I basically told the story. You know, have everybody years ago was it it was five years ago. gentleman walked into my studio named Joe ferry. You know, Joe, you've known Joe for many, many years. And Joe and I hit it off and you know, you know, he's had the big ska band on and off for 30 years. was, and he and I just started doing some stuff together at my place where you were at my old studio. And, and we just he decided because of you know me being around, we'd be in the same town he was going to rehash the big ska band again. So we started recording some stuff. And I don't know if you remember this day, Cory, Joe sitting on my couch in the studio, and we just somehow realize that we both know you. And so chose, we're both looking at each other, he picks up the phone and calls you. And that's when he threw this idea at you. And then the next thing you know, you were coming into the studio to do tracks, and we're doing gigs and stuff. And the only sad part about this is, you know, in 2020, you know, we planned on doing a lot of stuff together that summer, even with living color, if you remember, but then the world ended. But I think we should still do that. I still think we should redo some some big scar shows we'd live in color. I think that'd be great. But yeah, but and, you know, so many people, including Alicia just got such a kick out of that, you know, I said, I said, you know, if you would have told me when I was 16 years old that when I was in my 40s, I'd be in a band with you. I would have told you you were plumb out of your mind. Right? But but here we are. It's, it's and I'm and I love still coming to see you guys. You know, a couple months ago, I brought the family to see you guys over in Delray. And they had, you know, they'd never seen you do what you do. Right. And it was really wild, you know, they really got a kick out of it. So. So but yeah, that's, that's the big scar story in a nutshell. And I'm hoping we can keep that story going. Because Joe and I are throwing ideas back and forth. And I think we're going to do some more. So be prepared for that.

And the music is so incredible with Alan shared. I mean, it's, it's neat. It's so fun, but I just love it. Because I mean, I actually remember when he went when Alan went to your concert at when he was it was records, and I totally remember, he's like, I'm gonna go see live in color. I'm so excited. And so then, you know, years ago, when he told me this, I was like, wait, what? Because I've actually so Cory just so you know, my irony has I literally have had this concept in my mind for it was actually for 22 of 2015 was when I bought the first website. And if you want to hear my crazy story, you can go to Episode One of events. My irony, Alan can send it to you. But it's it's an unbelievable story of, of the craziest things that happened that then allowed me to figure out like, actually, I'll tell you the the nutshell this was people when I used to be in high end car sales, I saw Jaguars for a while. And people would be like, how do you say your last name. And I'd say it's like ironic, but with an M. And then I would add there's a lot of irony in my life, and people would laugh. And then I realized, oh my goodness, this is a universal word for everyone. This applies to everyone. And this also is a new form of content we can share. So imagine people sharing this around the world. They're my ironic connections, I mean, social media and take it away from just being selfies. Even if it's a selfie with your Miring great, it's still something it's it's still something greater than just being all about ourselves. Because it's not about us. It's about we and this incredible connection. And I think what we've just shown on so many different levels is like as I say this divine interweaving because if you didn't go to that party, if you didn't get called out to sing if you you know, I mean, you look at how almost impossible it was for Living Color to come together the way that it did. But it was obviously divinely meant to be absolute. That is just ah, I love this story. So, Cory, when are you guys playing next? And like what, what, for people to be able to connect and find out more about future shows or you know, just

like to share. If you go to the there's a Living Color, Facebook pages, a living color, Instagram page, we are also on Twitter. We're on the social media, that's your best bet on finding out where we are. We're in the midst of retooling our website. So I don't think you'll find much information there. But as I said, you could go to you can go to the Instagram page, you can go to the Facebook page, you can check us check us out on Twitter, you can go to look at bands in town. Just you know, type in our name and Google you'll find us you were around.

Yeah, you're everywhere. That is for sure. Well, I'm so beyond honored that you were able to be our first guest for my writing musings with musicians would love to have you back on in the future. If you have any cool friends that you're like, Hey, you got to tell your crazy story because that's what it's all about. It's it's recognizing these chance occurrences, but they're not chances there are no coincidences. Absolutely, that's my already. Well, I hope that you enjoyed it, since you had no idea what Alan invited you.

That's a great thing that you want those kinds of those kinds of situations where you don't know which way you're going to go. But you wind up someplace else, that you wind up learning something you want to motivating somebody that's that's part of the journey. I think that's great.

Yeah. Oh, it totally is. So Well, thank you. Again, I'm getting the biggest honor and I just, ah, your voice, your voice. Cory is so unbelievably you are so gifted, and it's just, ah, I can't I don't even have words. But Alan, we need to go to a live show. So at some point I'm in I'm in San Jose, California, Cory, so I'm a little further. But I know we can make this work at some point. So

we'll be out on the road over the summer as well. So wonderful, replaying in Virginia, in a couple of weeks in Camden, New Jersey. And I think we're doing a bunch of stuff in June and July as well. So,

right. All right. Well, thank you again, to both of you. It's this has just been so awesome. I hope listeners that you I mean, his story is so incredible. So thank you, again, Cory, and Alan, and to the listeners. I'll see you next time.