I’m sure you’ve heard the phrase before, “Giving someone the benefit of the doubt.”
The dictionary says, “the benefit of the doubt” is the state of accepting something or someone as honest or deserving of trust, even though there are doubts.
Today on The Karen Kenney Show, we’re talking about how we often think that giving the benefit of the doubt is a courtesy we’re extending to the other person.
But sometimes, when we extend the benefit of the doubt, our mental, our physical, our emotional and our spiritual well-being also benefits from this too.
Another way to say this is we get to choose to see through the eyes of love, rather than fear, which means we don't have to give too much credit to our ego’s first and loudest reactions.
This doesn’t mean that we become doormats, give up our common sense, or stop listening to our Inner Voice or abandon our wise discernment.
However, there is a benefit sometimes to not just running with that first fear reaction of the ego, and instead, learning to slow down and take your time, so that you can assess a situation from a place of love.
KEY POINTS:
• Definition of Benefit of the Doubt
• Being Called an Idiot
• Practicing in Relationships + in the Car
• The Importance of Perspective
• Getting Your Panties in a Bunch
• Giving Bad Evidence + Proof
• Be Kind, Be Kind, Be Kind
Karen Kenney is a certified Spiritual Mentor, Hypnotist, Integrative Change Worker and a Life Coach. She’s known for her dynamic storytelling, her sense of humor, her Boston accent and her no-bullshit approach to Spirituality and transformational work.
She’s been a yoga teacher for 22+ years, is a Certified Gateless Writing Instructor, and is also an author, speaker, retreat leader and the host of The Karen Kenney Show podcast.
A curious human being, life-long learner and an entrepreneur for 20+ years, KK brings a down-to-earth perspective to applying spiritual principles and brain science that create powerful shifts in people’s lives and businesses.
She works with people individually in her 1:1 program - THE QUEST, and offers a collective learning experience via Group Mentoring in The Nest. She supports both the conscious and unconscious mind by combining practical Neuroscience, Subconscious Reprogramming, Integrative Hypnosis, and Spiritual Mentorship. These tools help clients regulate their nervous systems, remove blocks, rewrite stories, rewire beliefs, and reimagine what’s possible!
Karen wants her clients to have their own lived experience with spirituality and to not just “take her word for it”. She encourages people to deepen their connection to Self, Source and Spirit in down-to-earth, tangible, and actionable ways without losing sight of the magic.
Her process, of transforming “Your Story To Your Glory” helps people to shift their minds from an old thought system of fear to one of Love - using compassion, un-shaming, laughter and humor. Her work is effective, efficient, and it’s also wicked fun!
KK’s been a student of A Course in Miracles for close to 30 years, has been vegan for over 20 years, and believes that a little kindness can make a big difference.
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Okay, so this episode, this episode is called benefit of the
doubt the benefit of the doubt. Now, I am sure you have heard
that phrase before. It's a noun phrase I'm sure you've heard it
before. And I know what I think what that phrase means. But
whenever I'm doing a show where I'm talking about something that
is like kind of a part of the lexicon of the language of the
people, I like to look it up and see what the dictionaries you
know, have to say. So Merriam Webster says this about the
benefit of the doubt, it says it is the state of accepting
something or someone as honest or deserving of trust, even
though there are doubts.
For some reason, I find this so funny, okay, the state of
accepting something, or someone as honest or deserving of trust,
even though there are doubts. Now, I find that definition
fascinating in and of itself, but I really am trying to keep
myself from going down a rabbit hole. But I will say this, if we
just look at this part of deserving trust, even though
there are doubts, well, if there are doubts, then what that tells
me is there must already be some sort of a history somewhere.
Because otherwise, either you're just a person who doesn't trust
anybody, or somebody has given you enough proof that maybe
they're not to be trusted.
But I see how this shows up in the world, so often, how we
don't give people the benefit of the doubt. And so what I want to
talk about today is the power, the benefit, like literally the
benefit of the benefit of giving it because as I'm going to tell
you, it doesn't just affect the person giving the benefit. All
right, it all I mean, we It doesn't just affect the person
you're giving it to it also affects you. And I'm going to
get into that a little bit more. And of course, I have a story.
So some of the places that it's wicked good to extend the
benefit of the doubt and where you can practice doing that. It
100% in human relationships, okay, if you are relating to
another human being at all, and whether that is an intimate
relationship like your partner, your sweetie a lover, whoever,
you know, your fiance, your boyfriend, your girlfriend,
whatever. Or your friendships, your family, relationships, your
siblings, whatever, you're working at co workers, right
relationships are a great place to practice this.
But you know, where else is a great place to practice this?
when you're driving in the car! when you're driving in the car.
Because nevermind going from zero to 60 by stepping your foot
on the brake on the gas right? I see so many people's emotions go
from zero to 60 their anger their frustration, their
impatience, right boom. It does not take much to send some
people right over the edge right and they get wicked angry or
they're like flipping people the bird or that like she does
scream or pounding their dashboard like slamming on their
their lemon on this steering
We'll oh my god has given me flashbacks of being a student at
BU, Boston University. And back in the day when I was in
college, Ah, man, my nervous system was so dysregulated and I
had zero patience. And being in traffic made me mental like it
made me so insane and so crazy. And I would literally be like
slamming my, my steering wheel and like, cursing up a storm and
like, I think back and I'm like, I was an insane person. But it
was self inflicted.
Okay, but let me tell you the story, let me tell you the story
of why we're talking about this today. Okay. So the other day,
I'm driving in downtown Concord, and I'm coming down the street,
and I get to this stop sign. Okay, now I'm on one of the side
streets that come down and it intersects Main Street, okay,
now, if you're not watching this, I'm doing little hand
signals to show you where I am. I wish I could, I shouldn't draw
shouldn't draw a little extra for you guys. I'm gonna do my
best to describe it. So I'm coming down the street. And
where some of the streets. So the way that the streets in
downtown Concord work, it's like some are only one way coming up.
Some are one way come down, like whatever. But I'm on a two way
street. So I'm not I'm not doing anything insane.
But I'm on the right hand side, which is where we drive in
America. I'm at the stop sign. And there's a woman coming
perpendicular like a cross in front of me. And she's driving a
car. And then she stops and pauses because I realized, Oh,
she wants to turn left and come up the street like past me like
she you know, our driver's side of windows would be side by
side. But what she couldn't see, or she wasn't looking for,
because first of all, she had her phone in her hand. I saw it.
She wasn't really paying attention. Okay, so she wasn't
not necessarily paying attention to her own driving. But she also
was not looking for what I could see from my perspective.
Okay, so I pulled down, I'm at the stop sign. And there's a lot
of parking on Main Street. So you can't always see the traffic
that's coming if there's a big vehicle like packed in one of
those parking spots. So even though I stopped at the stop
sign, now I'm going left onto Main Street, she's turning left
coming up the street that I'm on, but I can't see what's
coming. So I have to keep inching out like just a tiny
bit. My blinker is on. I'm following the rules of the road.
But I also don't want to like turn out into traffic too fast
and then have somebody slam into me, right? So I'm just inching
out, inching out, inching out. So, again, she cannot see what
I'm seeing.
From my point of view, there is a method to my madness, there is
a reason why I'm doing what I'm doing. But she can't see because
she is clearly now I can tell, right? I mean, the work that I
do as a spiritual mentor, the work that I do as a yoga
teacher, as a hypnotist, as a life coach as a change worker,
right? I'm always like watching people's like body language, and
I'm wicked sensitive to other people's energy. I don't even
have to be in the same car with her. I could tell by the way
that what her face was doing what her shoulders were doing,
right? And her tone of voice. Now, you might be asking
yourself, dear, dear listener or watcher, you might be asking
yourself, "KK, but you were in your own car. How could you tell
what her voice sounded like?" Well, let me tell you because as
I'm inching out, but not dangerously I'm doing it wicked
slow. Anybody who was at the stop sign with me could see
probably like what I was doing and why but not this person. So
she takes finally she's sick of waiting, right? Because going
left on Main Street can be tough. Right? So finally she
gets her left hand turn. And apparently she does not approve
of how far I have edged the nose of my car out into Main Street,
which was not an obscene amount. It was just enough to keep me
from getting harmed or hit or whatever.
And so when she drives past me, it was kind of nice out, so my
window was halfway down. But she rolls down her window and I hear
her say - And now listen, listen if you're if you got little kids
around right now block me as I'm just giving you a warning. I'm
given fair warning. Okay. So she drives past me and she gives me
this look like she gives me the look. Right and if you can see
what shirt I have on today, right? I have I have my Masshole
shirt - I'm a kid from Lawrence mass. I'm a kid from Boston,
okay, so I'm in the car and she drives past me she gives me she
shoots me a quick like look with like daggers now I give her
credit. She doesn't flip me the bird. What she does instead is
she calls me this what she says to me she drives by and she says
like into my window. Fucking idiot!
Okay. Now, the best part of this though, is, I think I thought
that that was wicked funny. Like, I literally started
laughing. I was like, did she just call me an idiot? Right?
And I was like, Oh my God. Now, old me, Vicki with two K's from
Lawrence part of me back in the day, I would have like I the
stuff that probably would have come out, back to her. But I
didn't I just kind of laughed, because I realized a couple of
things very quickly.
Why this was happening. Her reaction now there could have
been there could have been a couple of reasons why, okay,
obviously, right. She didn't know me. Okay. She didn't know
me. So she made the assumption that I'm stupid, that I'm a
terrible driver. Okay, she, we have no relationship, right?
That could have been a nice little, like, you know, three
second relationship when she went by she could a smile that
maybe we could have had a much better relationship. But instead
she hurled she hurled insults at me, right. So she didn't know
me. So she doesn't know that I am, I am an intelligent human
being right. She didn't trust me.
She clearly seemed impatient, inflamed, frustrated, whatever,
zero to 60. Or maybe there was something going on in her own
life. And I'll get to that in a second. But she definitely
couldn't see what what I could see, she could not see from my
point of view, she could not see my angle. And we had different
perspectives. And because we had different perspectives, she
couldn't see why I was doing what I was doing, that I must
have had a good reason for doing what I was doing. So she chose
not to extend to me the benefit of the doubt. She decided
instead to make an assumption and an accusation and then
hurling insults at me, assuming that I am, in fact, an idiot.
Now. There's a lot of things you might be able to say about me.
One of them that I'm not, is an idiot. Now, there are certainly
a lot of areas in my life where I don't like I'm not super tech
savvy, like there's certain things that I'm like, yeah. But
by and large, I don't think I'm stupid. I got called Stupid a
lot as a kid. But my grades reflected otherwise, my ability
to survive my childhood in my life, and I went on to college,
and blah, blah, blah, like might reflect otherwise.
Now, I'm not saying I'm friggin Einstein or anything like that.
But I was like, wow, that was pretty like that was pretty
aggressive math. Okay, but here's the thing, here's the
thing, why I wanted to talk about giving the benefit of the
doubt, when I started to break this down, right, the benefit of
the doubt, it's really easy to think that you're the person who
is somehow like the better person, and you're extending
this benefit of, of like the benefit of doubt, like, even
though I might doubt that you know, something is going on, I'm
going to give you the benefit I am going to bestow to you.
Right, like you're the queen or the king, I'm going to bestow
upon you my benefit.
And we often think that we are, the benefit of the doubt is a
courtesy to the other person. And you know, the way that my
brain works is I really love to play with words and language and
flip things upside down and shake them and like see what
comes out. Like I have so much curiosity about these things.
And I started thinking about this. And I said, wow, you know,
even though we often think that giving the benefit of the doubt
is for the other person. Sometimes giving the benefit of
the doubt can actually bebetter for us. Or you, too.
There's something really magical about this. Because when we
choose to extend positive intent, right, and I made a note
to myself here, right? I said when we assume positive intent
and that somebody isn't just doing something just to be a
dick, right? When we assume that there must be a good reason why
a person is doing what they're doing, especially when we don't
understand it. Right when we get a little flustered, we get a
little upset and it's like right and I'm like throwing up my
hands and making funny sounds right we get so you get like our
panties in a bunch.
And if we do not have a regulated nervous system, if we
do not have any spiritual tools in our in our toolkit, if we do
not have any practical, again, practical tools to be able to
calm ourselves down. Right, then we're going to be like launching
these great needs of insults and, and impatience and hurry
and discontent.
And we think, oh, like I'm gonna bestow this gift upon somebody
else. But it's like no, you give, give, give yourself the
benefit of extending the doubt that you don't know what the
fuck is going on. Right That woman had no idea what was going
on, she could not see what I could see she and maybe if she
had taken 30 seconds or whatever to just pause and go like, Oh,
that big truck is there, she's probably pulling out because she
can't see past it. Like if she had just taken a second. But
whatever was going on in her own life did not allow her to slow
down her mind enough.
And this is why the power of a daily spiritual practice a DSP
is so important, because it helps us to show up as the kind
of people that we like to think that we are, which is kind or
compassionate or nice or empathetic or whatever. But when
we're all jacked up, right, when we're all like worked up, or
stressed out or anxious, or whatever, we're not able to see
outside and I'm making these little kind of like foveal
vision, I'm making these little cups around my eyes, like we
can't we lose our, our ability to, to expand our focus out, we
lose our peripheral, right, and we get so like, zoned in on of
like, they're doing something bad wrong, like "an idiot" you
know what I mean?
Okay, so this is what I said, when we can make the most
generous assumption that we can - I love that word here - to be
generous, to be generous, and maybe assume that we don't have
the whole picture. And I'm gonna do a whole other podcast on
perspective and why this is really important.
Okay, another way of saying this, for me, this extending the
benefit of the doubt is that when we choose to see through
the eyes of love, right, and I don't necessarily just mean like
with our eyes, right? We even eye doctors will tell you that
your eyes don't actually see. So when, A course in miracles, you
know, there's a line that basically say, we think that
human eyes see and human ears here, right? The reality of it
is we even just put the spiritual to the side and we
look at it just from a physic physical, a scientific
standpoint, your eyeballs are not actually the the thing that
sees.
The eyes take in the information, what really sees is
the brain, the brain is the thing that interprets the
information that is coming in through the windows that is
coming in through the eyes, that is gathering the information.
It's the brain that sees and if your brain has a history, right,
we're going back to that thing that I said earlier, right? If
the brain goes back to a history of this person can't be trusted.
People can't be trusted. People are stupid, women are terrible
drivers, like whatever stories that we've got floating around
up there, and our old noggin is going to shape and influence the
way that you're responding to the world around you.
So if we can choose to see through the eyes of love, right?
So to me, that's more kind of metaphysical, right then then
just physical. We can see through the eyes of love rather
than fear, then we don't give too much credit to our egos
first and loudest reaction. So in A course in miracles, there's
a line I'm paraphrasing it says basically, the ego speaks first
and it speaks loudest. And I always add, and it's always
wrong.
Because the ego isn't actually choosing how it wants to show up
- the ego is a reactionary, right. So love allows us to
choose and to act from a place of our choosing. The ego is a
reactor I think that love stands for... like love or fear. Love
is an actor it like love is the action of the heart. Fear is a
reactor from our history, from our stories from our, from our,
from our literally from our fears from our trauma from our
past, from those unhealed places within us, you know.
So when we extend the benefit of the doubt, our mental, our
physical, our emotional and our spiritual well being also gets
enhanced. Because when we go on the attack like that, and we
just choose to make other people wrong, when we aren't generous,
when we aren't generous. When we choose instead to like try to
attack them or cut them down or assume the worst of them. You
know?
And just think about like you can, I'm sure you can go back to
so many times in your life when you thought you knew what was
going on. And then later you got a itiny bit more of information
and you're like, oh my god, like you had just assumed the worst
about somebody and their intentions and their actions and
why they were doing a particular thing. When once you got a
little bit more information, it was like literally like the - I
don't know what that's called maybe the exposure on a lens,
all of a sudden it goes FWAH, and it just opens up in so much
more becomes possible, you know what I'm saying?
So, I was just thinking, like, how many times has our ego mind,
rather than extend the benefit of the doubt - the ego mind
loves to run around like a little, like a little I try to
think of, I try not to use - I love animals so much - and I I
just love them so much. It's why I've been one of the reasons why
I've been vegan for like 20 years. And so many examples that
we give, we use animals like in a negative light. So I was
trying to think of like, what's a creature... like magpies I
think, like collect, but I think that's cool. So I've tried to
think of a way to say this.
But so the ego mind will just go around trying to collect little
bits of evidence as to why somebody else is guilty, why
somebody else is wrong, why somebody else is stupid or lazy,
or an idiot yet, you know what I mean?
The ego mind when it is in its fear place, which is what it is
the home of guilt, and separation and scarcity and
competition and all all that stuff. Right? That's the ego
realm right? It's a cuckoo, kooky monkeys, as I like to say,
running around trying to grab all its evidence to prove to
prove that the other person is bad. But it doesn't stop at the
other person. It will also run that racket on you if you are
not careful.
So can you please also extend to yourself the benefit of the
doubt? You know, today, I woke up this morning. And one of the
after I did my my DSP, you know, I do I do a couple of things for
my daily spiritual practice. But the first the first thing that I
did right after that, I had this thought in my head, like, oh,
did I take care of that thing? Did I pay that thing? And I'm
like, I know, it was on my calendar, I know that I left
myself a reminder. So when I came upstairs, here to my
office, I checked my calendar. And I was like, I saw it. I saw
it on my calendar from two weeks ago. And I was like, Oh, I must
have done it because I left myself a note.
And then I went in and I checked, I checked and I was
like shiiiit, something it somehow it got past me even
though I saw the note and I was like, the first thing I thought
and this is this is a habit, right? This is a ingrained,
immediate response from my ego. And if we're not vigilant, if
we're not vigilant for the quality of our thoughts, the
quality of our words, the way we speak to ourselves, our internal
voice, right, I'm pointing at my head and my heart, the way that
we speak to ourselves first and foremost, but also how we speak
to others. If we are not vigilant for the quality of our
thoughts, words and actions, we are going to suffer. So before I
knew it, right, I recognized that I had made a mistake and I
literally blurted out, you're such a "fucking...."
And I was like, nope. As soon as it came out of my mouth, I heard
it and I caught myself and I was like, Nope, we don't talk to
ourselves like that anymore. Because I never talked to myself
like that, until an adult in my childhood started talking to me
like that. And our little brains when we're little kids, man,
they absorb everything. You know, it's an interesting thing.
Being a hypnotist. One of the things I often say that I use
hypnosis to dehypnotize people, from all the old stories, from
all the old beliefs from the old identity, from all the bullshit
that they've got running around upstairs in their subconscious
because of the things that we heard and were called repeatedly
as children.
You know, anything that is thought anything that is
thought, felt, like emotional like that you feel it, anything
that you think about, feel, and focus on and repeat enough
times... It's as if it becomes real in your head.
So when I caught myself saying that about myself, I stopped and
I said, Nope, we don't talk to ourselves that way anymore. And
I said to myself, you are allowed to make mistakes, and
you are still lovable. You are allowed to make mistakes. Making
a mistake doesn't make me stupid. I'm allowed to make a
mistake, and I am still lovable. I am still worthy of love.
Right?
I'm not going to let that old racket keep running in my head.
So I had to give myself the benefit of the doubt. Like,
okay, you're allowed to make a mistake. It doesn't all of a
sudden become some gospel truth about you across the board that
you're like, You're like as that woman called me an idiot. You
know what I mean? It was really, really, really important, and it
says, I also wrote this, I want to make sure I said this, "It
really behooves us and our entire well being. Right, it
behooves us and our entire well being benefits from not assuming
the worst about people, including ourselves.
Now, here's the caveat part of this. Okay, this is important.
It doesn't mean though, extending the benefit of the
doubt to others. So this is what I wanted to say. There is a
benefit to us to doubt, right? There is a benefit to us to
doubt our egos first fear reaction, right? There's a
benefit to that going like, Hey, what's that about? Like, I'm
making a lot of assumptions here. I don't really know this
person, right?
And it's like, what happened with that lady in the car. She
didn't know me. She didn't trust me. She didn't have any history
about me. So she assumed the worst about me. Plus, she didn't
have the right perspective... . well, I shouldn't say the right
perspective. She didn't have my perspective. She couldn't
understand why I was doing what I was doing.
Okay. But I am not saying across the board become a doormat,
right? When somebody does something awful, just assume
that they had good intentions. No, no, no, no, no, no, that's
not what I'm saying at all. It doesn't mean that you throw away
your common sense. It doesn't mean that you throw away your
discernment or your good judgment. Or like I said, you
don't just become a doormat for people, right?
Especially when there is enough evidence to the contrary. That
maybe that person shouldn't be trusted. Maybe that person
shouldn't be in that role. After enough times of you seeing a
habituated thing or repeated pattern, it might be wise to
have a little doubt. You know what I'm saying?
I'm not saying be a dream killer. I'm not saying put the
kibosh on people's excitement about things. I'm not saying
walking around being a Negative Nelly, that's not what I'm
saying. But there are times in life when we've gotten enough
evidence where we go like, yeah, I don't know, maybe I shouldn't
trust that. Or maybe I shouldn't invest my money there. Or maybe
I shouldn't, you know, trust that this car, which hasn't, you
know, had a tune up in 15,000 20,000 miles.
But whatever it is, you know, we have to be smart, like be a
smarty pants, right? Like do your homework, pay attention,
right, assess the situation. So we can still give the benefit of
the doubt, and not get to, like get walked all over and have
people treating us like crap, right? That's not what I'm
saying.
But what I am saying is there is a benefit sometimes to not just
listening to that first fear reaction, and instead, right,
and again, using your breath, using a mantra, tapping, like
there's all these different tools that we can use, say a
prayer, meditate, slow down, slow yourself down, slow down,
there is a huge benefit, right? There is wisdom. As my teacher
Easwaran says there is the wisdom of slowing down, take
your time, so that you can assess from a place of love.
And maybe it's important in that case, to extend the benefit of
the doubt, versus always coming from a place of fear, and
reacting and spewing out things that you can't take back. You
know, if I had maybe been in a different state of mind, or I
had been a different person altogether, a total stranger
calling me that, especially and this is why I thought it was so
fascinating. And how I know I've come such a long way - is that I
got called those kinds of negative things. You know, when
I was a kid, that if I hadn't done the work that I've done,
you know, with myself for myself to heal a lot of my old stuff
that could have been really damaging for me. That could have
like, maybe not taken me out at the knees. But there are a lot
of people who maybe that would have like, really given them
that final piece of evidence and proof that they needed to
solidify their own self loathing or their own self hatred.
Because if somebody had called a person an idiot or stupid or
whatever, enough times as a kid and then a total stranger yells
that out a window to them, some part of the brain right that
younger part of you, can easily say even they this person who
doesn't even know me like thinks this.
So look, it would also just behoove us to be kind. That's
it. Just be kind be kind be kind. When you find yourself
getting worked up into a tizzy, about to have a little
conniption fit, you get your panties in a bunch, you're all
worked up. You better check yourself before you wreck
yourself. Because someday sometime you We're gonna say or
do something that you cannot take back and it is going to
have consequences.
And always just keep your mind open to the possibility that you
don't know what the fuck you're talking about. That you do not
have all the facts, you do not have all the evidence, you do
not have a broad enough perspective. And I'm gonna save
that for another episode to go into a little bit more deeply.
So you guys, thank you so much for spending a little bit of
time with me. It's always a pleasure to just kind of share
the things that I'm thinking about. And always the you know,
the whole, the whole heartbeat of the show is my desire to
spread a little more love to do a little storytelling to share
some spiritual principles. And to help us all just kind of move
through this human experience with less suffering, you know
what I mean, just to navigate it with a little more grace and
mercy and compassion and ease, and also with a sense of humor.
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And I know I had mentioned a few episodes ago, about maybe
sharing a new way to support the show. A few people have reached
out to me and asked me they're like, What was that about? And
I'm like, it's coming. I will talk about it a little bit more
in the upcoming weeks. So I haven't forgotten to share. But
just thank you for your curiosity and thank you for
reaching out and I just really superduper appreciate you being
here.
And as I always end every show, okay. Wherever you go, and this
is also I'm like laughing I'm thinking about that lady,
because she was the exact opposite of what I was saying
Right? Where that lady yelled at me out of her car window, but
here's the deal, "Wherever you go, may you leave the people,
the place, the animals, the environment and yourself better
than how you first found them. Wherever you go, may you and
your presence and your love, be a blessing. Bye.
Here are some great episodes to start with.