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(Transcribed by TurboScribe.ai - Go Unlimited to remove this message) Y'all ready to be history?
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Get started.
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Welcome.
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Hi.
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Hi.
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Hi.
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Hello, everyone.
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To the pro audio suite.
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These guys are professional, they're motivated.
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Thanks to Triboose, the best vocal booth for
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And Austrian Audio, making passion heard.
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Introducing Robert Marshall from Source Elements and someone
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audio post Chicago.
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Darren Robert Robertson from Voodoo Radio Imaging, Sydney.
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Take to the VO stars, George the Tech
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Witten from LA.
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And me, Andrew Pinkers, voiceover talent and home
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studio guy.
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Line up, man, and boot me.
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And welcome to another pro audio suite.
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Thanks to Austrian Audio, making passion heard.
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And Triboose, your booth away from home.
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Now, this week, we're not featuring an Austrian
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Audio microphone.
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We're featuring, how many have we got?
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Two, four, six, eight, nine.
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Nine microphones, none of which are Austrian Audio.
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Sorry about that, guys, but...
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Sounds German though, nine.
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Yes, nine.
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There's a lot of German representation in this
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test.
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There is rather a lot of German representation.
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So this was sent to you, George, is
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that correct?
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Yeah, I have a client who sent me
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a series of mic tests and it was
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a blind test.
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So he sent them, you know, just, I
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think it was six or seven mics, no
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labels.
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And it was, we did, you know, he
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ordered a mic check, you know, which is
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where you send me a bunch of audio
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files and I will listen to them and
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tell you which I think is the best
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sounding with your voice and kind of rank
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them.
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And so I thought, wow, that was really
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cool because I get occasional mic tests, but
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oftentimes they're not very consistently recorded or the
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mics are all very different.
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This was the case where the person, Tim
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Campbell in this case, did a very nice
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collection and did a very careful job of
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recording with consistent mic placement and the whole
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thing.
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So I was just going to lift it
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and use it on the show, but he
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said, you know, the script was something I
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couldn't release, but let me do another test
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for you guys and I'll chuck in even
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more mics.
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So out of, you know, just on his
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own time, just for fun, he provided us
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this sample of nine microphones and that's what
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you're going to be hearing today.
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I think there's some that sound very different
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and there's a lot that sound very, very
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similar.
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Agreed.
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So for instance, take a look at these
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two.
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Just to begin with, I think here's the
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biggest difference.
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Your niece wants an Epic Fun Fatty Cake
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for her birthday.
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Or?
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Your niece wants an Epic Fun Fatty Cake
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for her birthday.
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And these have all been equalized as far
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as average energy and volume.
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So they're not peak normalized.
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Can I guess what those two were?
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Would we like to play the guessing game?
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Well, I think the first one was the
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416 and the second one was the TLM67.
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You are exactly wrong.
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Yeah, I couldn't tell you which mic was
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which, but I can tell you that the
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first one, it was sort of a little
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weaker and a bit thinner and the second
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one was certainly much more in your face
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and a much fatter, nicer, rounder sound.
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The first one was a UAD7, the second
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one was a 320.
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Andrew hit it exactly wrong.
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Oh no, he just had them flip flopped.
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Yeah, literally.
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The first one was a TLM67, which to
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me was amazingly dull.
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What was that a TLM107?
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A TLM67.
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TLM67 to me was very dull here.
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Your niece wants an Epic Fun Fatty Cake
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for her birthday.
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And then you compare that to this.
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Your niece wants an Epic Fun Fatty Cake
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for her birthday.
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And that pops out and there's that 416
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in your face thing.
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I don't like the first one, I'll be
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honest.
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I don't like it at all.
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Yeah, the TLM67 did not rank.
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My comment on the TLM167 was, I believe
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it was dull.
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By the way, that's a multi-pattern mic.
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A lot of people may not know that
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mic, but that is a...
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Yeah, the U87 is the most expensive, but
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the TLM67 is over 2 grand.
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Wow, really?
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So then, what were some other surprising things
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that I noticed?
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So for instance, do we want to use
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the 416 as sort of the baseline?
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We should, because that's the baseline mic in
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the industry.
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And I do think it's the one to
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beat in this list in a way.
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There's some others that are close, but it's
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definitely a standout.
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So here's the 416.
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Your niece wants an Epic Fun Fatty Cake
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for her birthday.
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And then here's some others.
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Your niece wants an Epic Fun Fatty Cake
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for her birthday.
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See, they're close.
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What was that one?
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Really close, right?
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Yeah, what was that one?
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102.
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And the 102, my comment when I first
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heard it was meaty mids.
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So the mids are back, I felt like.
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And then, again, back to the 416.
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Your niece wants an Epic Fun Fatty Cake
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for her birthday.
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And then we got this one.
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Your niece wants an Epic Fun Fatty Cake
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for her birthday.
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That's the 320.
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I reckon that's the 103.
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That's the 103.
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It is?
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And that is like a better 102.
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It almost gives the 416 a run for
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its money.
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Your niece wants an Epic...
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Play the 102 and the 103.
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Here's 102.
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Your niece wants an Epic Fun Fatty Cake
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for her birthday.
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And?
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Your niece wants an Epic Fun Fatty Cake
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for her birthday.
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Yeah, it's the 416 of the two, isn't
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it?
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And then some of that could be in
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the energy of the reed, but there's...
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The 103 pops out just a little bit
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more.
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Yeah, well, that's what I've got.
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My note was on the 102.
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I said it was like the 103, but
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less top end.
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Yes, my note on the 103 was a
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bit brighter than the 102.
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This is why I like the 103 on
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male voices and the 102 on women's voices.
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And that's being very generalized.
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So then we keep on going here and
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check this out.
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Your niece wants an Epic Fun Fatty Cake
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for her birthday.
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Your niece wants an Epic Fun Fatty Cake
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for her birthday.
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And what do you think those two are?
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I was going to say the LA320, but
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I'm not sure now.
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No clue.
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What was that?
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It's the 107.
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The 107, really?
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Yeah, and it's really like the Neumanns just
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go like 102, 103, 107.
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They just get better, better, better, like here.
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So here's 102.
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Your niece wants an Epic Fun Fatty Cake
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for her birthday.
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103.
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Your niece wants an Epic Fun Fatty Cake
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for her birthday.
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107.
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Your niece wants an Epic Fun Fatty Cake
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for her birthday.
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The 107 just kind of warms up a
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little bit.
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Yeah, it does.
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It doesn't lose anything.
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And that's an interesting mic now because that
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is, that is a budget multi-pattern mic,
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as Neumann goes.
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The 107.
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Yeah, it's a very unusual one because I
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thought tonally it's similar to the 103 and
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I thought it was building the similar topology.
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I think it's got more low end.
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I think it was very similar to the
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103.
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We all thought the 103 was a little
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bit brighter and then the 107 seems to
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like throw the low end in.
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But that 107 is very unusual.
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You have to look at that mic.
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It literally has a joystick on the front
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and it has this very strange, you know,
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controller that lets you set all the different
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functions on it.
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So it's a whole different design philosophy and
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I think it's around 1500 US.
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So yeah, it's sort of a Goldilocks mic,
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right?
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Like multi-pattern and good sounding.
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Is it remote multi-pattern?
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Is it kind of a big one?
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No, I don't believe.
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It's like a, it's like a control.
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It just, they use a digital controller on
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the front.
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It's got a goofy control that's going to
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break on you one day.
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That's the thing.
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It's a little nerve wracking having something like
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that.
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All right.
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So here, check this out.
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Back to our reference.
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Your niece wants an epic, fun, fatty cake
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for her birthday.
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Your niece wants an epic, fun, fatty cake
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for her birthday.
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Wow.
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That's the 320, isn't it?
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That was the 320.
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That's not.
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Wow.
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Why am I not getting this one?
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Oh, it could be the 67, the MK67.
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Nope.
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But there is one number that's correct.
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Oh, the T1167.
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No, we've already done that.
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We've already rolled that one out.
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Yo, so one of those is the 87?
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That's the 87.
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Really?
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Really, really mids.
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Like that 87 is, it's not bright.
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I always think of mids when I think
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87.
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I think mids, not a lot of low,
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not a lot of high.
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It's more of a mids mic.
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It's a terrible mic for Australian accent, I've
281
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got to say, because it's honky.
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It's a honky mic.
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Oh, you know what their most honky mic
284
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is, in my opinion?
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Because I've heard it enough times to identify
286
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it, is the TLM49.
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I do not like the sound of that
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mic.
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It has this mid-range honkiness.
290
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I'm like, why?
291
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Yeah.
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Really?
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Anyway.
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Moving on now.
295
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Your niece wants an Epic Funfetti Cake for
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her birthday.
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You said no problem.
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Your niece wants an Epic Funfetti Cake for
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her birthday.
300
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Okay, so now we're comparing a 416 against
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a, is that the MK67?
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That is.
303
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Okay.
304
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So, and the MK67 should, you would think,
305
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if it's trying to be like a, you
306
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know, 8767, but here's an 87 to a
307
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MK67.
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Your niece wants an Epic Funfetti Cake for
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her birthday.
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Your niece wants an Epic Funfetti Cake for
311
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her birthday.
312
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And they are more similar to each other
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than they are to that 416.
314
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Your niece wants an Epic Funfetti Cake.
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Which has that sizzle at the top.
316
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Is the MK67, that's a mic I know
317
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nothing about, I haven't even googled it.
318
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I think it's a modded 67.
319
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So, I mean, is it a TLM or
320
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is it a 2?
321
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Is it a 2, MK67?
322
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You know what, I don't know.
323
00:09:44,870 --> 00:09:46,850
I just assumed it was a modded U67,
324
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but hold on.
325
00:09:48,550 --> 00:09:50,310
Well, a modded U67 would be a 2
326
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mic.
327
00:09:51,430 --> 00:09:53,590
Yeah, it's like a modded 67, I thought.
328
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It's a genuine...
329
00:09:55,370 --> 00:09:56,770
Does this guy have the budget for that
330
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kind of mic?
331
00:09:57,750 --> 00:09:59,430
That's like a $10,000 mic.
332
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I think Andrew asked the same question.
333
00:10:01,130 --> 00:10:02,070
How the heck did he get all these
334
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mics?
335
00:10:03,830 --> 00:10:05,530
And that's a question I do not know
336
00:10:05,530 --> 00:10:06,470
the answer to.
337
00:10:07,410 --> 00:10:09,790
I do think they sound similar anyways, and
338
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that's why I thought it was also that.
339
00:10:11,350 --> 00:10:13,130
Because like really, here's the 87.
340
00:10:13,830 --> 00:10:15,750
Your niece wants an epic funfetti cake for
341
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her birthday.
342
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Your niece wants an epic funfetti cake for
343
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her birthday.
344
00:10:19,390 --> 00:10:20,370
And that was the 67.
345
00:10:20,610 --> 00:10:23,190
I think they sound similar, and they should.
346
00:10:23,730 --> 00:10:24,650
Yeah, that's that one, Mike.
347
00:10:24,750 --> 00:10:26,730
That Mike's way outside of my area of
348
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understanding.
349
00:10:28,290 --> 00:10:29,390
I just never heard it before.
350
00:10:29,670 --> 00:10:31,410
And okay, I found a listing.
351
00:10:31,610 --> 00:10:38,430
It says the TLM67 with Max Kirchner U67
352
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mod.
353
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That's the MK67.
354
00:10:42,310 --> 00:10:47,330
So it's a TLM67 converted into a tube
355
00:10:47,330 --> 00:10:47,590
mic.
356
00:10:48,430 --> 00:10:50,410
Is it an actual tube mic, or is
357
00:10:50,410 --> 00:10:51,410
it just like a fake tube?
358
00:10:51,590 --> 00:10:53,290
It's a drop-in circuit.
359
00:10:53,670 --> 00:10:54,190
How could it be...
360
00:10:54,970 --> 00:10:55,950
If it's just a drop-in circuit, it
361
00:10:55,950 --> 00:10:55,970
can't be tuned.
362
00:10:55,970 --> 00:10:56,550
Well, they have that.
363
00:10:56,850 --> 00:10:58,730
Inward audio had a drop-in for your
364
00:10:58,730 --> 00:11:00,570
U87 that would make it a 67.
365
00:11:01,310 --> 00:11:01,970
Yeah, you're right.
366
00:11:02,070 --> 00:11:03,830
It says it uses a 7-pin cable.
367
00:11:04,510 --> 00:11:06,090
So yeah, that's what it is.
368
00:11:06,090 --> 00:11:09,150
It's just adding a tube circuit to a
369
00:11:09,150 --> 00:11:10,770
TLM67 is what it is.
370
00:11:10,930 --> 00:11:12,130
Expensive kit there.
371
00:11:12,310 --> 00:11:14,090
Yeah, you can buy one on Reverb for
372
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$28.50. But it makes sense that the
373
00:11:20,310 --> 00:11:26,730
87 is the continuation transistor version of a
374
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67.
375
00:11:27,570 --> 00:11:27,770
Yes.
376
00:11:28,490 --> 00:11:29,970
So they should have similar capsules.
377
00:11:31,430 --> 00:11:33,010
I'm sure that that tube mic gets the
378
00:11:33,010 --> 00:11:34,010
transformer back.
379
00:11:34,010 --> 00:11:37,310
The 87 is the evolution of the U67,
380
00:11:37,550 --> 00:11:37,770
right?
381
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Correct.
382
00:11:38,310 --> 00:11:38,930
That's my understanding.
383
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The original 87.
384
00:11:40,730 --> 00:11:42,510
It's a transistorized 67.
385
00:11:42,810 --> 00:11:44,070
And the one in this test is the
386
00:11:44,070 --> 00:11:48,270
U87 AI, which is not the same as
387
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the original U87.
388
00:11:49,730 --> 00:11:50,490
It's pretty close.
389
00:11:50,610 --> 00:11:51,710
It's just a lower noise.
390
00:11:51,850 --> 00:11:52,750
No, it's the same.
391
00:11:52,950 --> 00:11:53,390
Same capsule?
392
00:11:53,610 --> 00:11:54,370
It's this lower noise circuit.
393
00:11:54,430 --> 00:11:54,670
Okay.
394
00:11:54,830 --> 00:11:55,350
Same capsule.
395
00:11:56,450 --> 00:11:58,870
The 87 capsule and the 67 capsule are
396
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the same except a little bit for the
397
00:12:00,290 --> 00:12:03,310
spacing because the 67 has more voltage going
398
00:12:03,310 --> 00:12:03,790
through it.
399
00:12:04,030 --> 00:12:06,470
But I think in some of these modified
400
00:12:06,470 --> 00:12:09,570
tube versions, they don't quite put the voltage
401
00:12:09,570 --> 00:12:12,250
high enough to make it a necessity to
402
00:12:12,250 --> 00:12:14,550
have different spacing, I think.
403
00:12:14,850 --> 00:12:15,270
I don't know.
404
00:12:16,250 --> 00:12:19,530
I know there's a KK67 and a KK87
405
00:12:19,530 --> 00:12:19,790
capsule.
406
00:12:19,790 --> 00:12:20,010
Okay.
407
00:12:20,130 --> 00:12:20,750
We're going off the rails.
408
00:12:21,270 --> 00:12:22,050
What's the...
409
00:12:23,070 --> 00:12:23,870
What's the...
410
00:12:23,870 --> 00:12:25,210
There was a couple of mics we've missed
411
00:12:25,210 --> 00:12:26,790
or we haven't talked about yet and that
412
00:12:26,790 --> 00:12:28,750
we re-initially thought were really good.
413
00:12:29,370 --> 00:12:29,510
Yeah.
414
00:12:29,510 --> 00:12:31,410
So here, let me play some more here.
415
00:12:32,010 --> 00:12:33,030
So here's our reference.
416
00:12:33,550 --> 00:12:35,690
Your niece wants an epic funfetti cake for
417
00:12:35,690 --> 00:12:36,290
her birthday.
418
00:12:36,810 --> 00:12:38,870
Your niece wants an epic funfetti cake for
419
00:12:38,870 --> 00:12:39,390
her birthday.
420
00:12:40,130 --> 00:12:40,330
All right.
421
00:12:40,430 --> 00:12:41,330
I'm going to have a crack at this
422
00:12:41,330 --> 00:12:42,830
one because finally I think I've got it
423
00:12:42,830 --> 00:12:43,030
right.
424
00:12:43,390 --> 00:12:43,790
LA320.
425
00:12:44,650 --> 00:12:44,870
Yes.
426
00:12:45,450 --> 00:12:46,010
And that's bright.
427
00:12:46,490 --> 00:12:47,050
Yeah, very...
428
00:12:47,050 --> 00:12:47,950
That's a pretty bright mic there.
429
00:12:48,470 --> 00:12:51,070
I've got hyped top end was my comment.
430
00:12:51,710 --> 00:12:53,270
Mike, my comment was bright.
431
00:12:53,810 --> 00:12:55,890
And that's a budget tube mic.
432
00:12:56,310 --> 00:12:57,210
Made by who, by the way?
433
00:12:57,210 --> 00:12:57,730
Loughton.
434
00:12:58,070 --> 00:12:58,490
Loughton.
435
00:12:59,150 --> 00:12:59,710
Yeah, Loughton.
436
00:13:00,150 --> 00:13:01,150
So yeah, kind of bright.
437
00:13:01,350 --> 00:13:02,110
It was my favorite.
438
00:13:02,250 --> 00:13:03,270
And then let me give you one more.
439
00:13:03,490 --> 00:13:05,030
This one you can all get by deduction.
440
00:13:05,450 --> 00:13:07,430
Your niece wants an epic funfetti cake for
441
00:13:07,430 --> 00:13:08,010
her birthday.
442
00:13:08,290 --> 00:13:10,270
Your niece wants an epic funfetti cake for
443
00:13:10,270 --> 00:13:10,810
her birthday.
444
00:13:11,190 --> 00:13:11,330
Okay.
445
00:13:11,430 --> 00:13:12,930
That's the KSM32 then.
446
00:13:13,610 --> 00:13:13,930
Yeah.
447
00:13:14,270 --> 00:13:15,630
And that one surprised me.
448
00:13:15,910 --> 00:13:17,290
I thought it was really well balanced.
449
00:13:18,390 --> 00:13:19,210
I said...
450
00:13:19,210 --> 00:13:20,650
And I have a 44 that I like
451
00:13:20,650 --> 00:13:21,090
a lot.
452
00:13:21,730 --> 00:13:22,310
And so...
453
00:13:22,310 --> 00:13:22,850
Brighter though.
454
00:13:23,190 --> 00:13:23,530
Isn't it brighter?
455
00:13:24,270 --> 00:13:26,110
I always thought the 32 is brighter than
456
00:13:26,110 --> 00:13:26,610
the 44.
457
00:13:26,610 --> 00:13:28,970
The 44 is a pretty neutral mic.
458
00:13:30,950 --> 00:13:32,670
And the 44 is a multi-pattern, right?
459
00:13:33,170 --> 00:13:33,910
Multi-pattern.
460
00:13:34,110 --> 00:13:36,710
But I think it's different enough that they
461
00:13:36,710 --> 00:13:37,850
sound different for some reason.
462
00:13:38,550 --> 00:13:39,530
But it's a multi-pattern.
463
00:13:40,410 --> 00:13:43,570
The 32 I have recommended many times to
464
00:13:43,570 --> 00:13:46,390
female voice talent because it's very, very smooth.
465
00:13:47,710 --> 00:13:49,170
It's got a nice low end to it.
466
00:13:49,330 --> 00:13:50,790
Yeah, it doesn't hype the top end.
467
00:13:51,010 --> 00:13:52,310
It has a nice low end to it.
468
00:13:53,350 --> 00:13:55,650
What's the price point of the KSM32 compared
469
00:13:55,650 --> 00:13:56,490
to the TLM107?
470
00:13:57,810 --> 00:13:58,770
Oh, it's like half the price.
471
00:13:58,950 --> 00:14:00,970
Or 103 actually would be the better comparison.
472
00:14:01,010 --> 00:14:03,130
The 32 is like $499.
473
00:14:04,290 --> 00:14:06,430
And the 103 is like a grand?
474
00:14:06,570 --> 00:14:07,310
$1200-ish.
475
00:14:08,490 --> 00:14:10,330
Yeah, I think the 32's got a nicer
476
00:14:10,330 --> 00:14:10,830
low end.
477
00:14:10,990 --> 00:14:12,310
I mean, here's the two.
478
00:14:12,790 --> 00:14:14,930
Your niece wants an epic funfetti cake for
479
00:14:14,930 --> 00:14:15,550
her birthday.
480
00:14:16,050 --> 00:14:18,070
Your niece wants an epic funfetti cake for
481
00:14:18,070 --> 00:14:18,610
her birthday.
482
00:14:18,950 --> 00:14:19,710
Now do the 102.
483
00:14:19,710 --> 00:14:22,550
Your niece wants an epic funfetti cake for
484
00:14:22,550 --> 00:14:23,130
her birthday.
485
00:14:23,730 --> 00:14:25,430
I think the 32 and the 102 are
486
00:14:25,430 --> 00:14:26,490
more similar.
487
00:14:26,970 --> 00:14:28,030
I think so, you're right.
488
00:14:28,650 --> 00:14:30,090
And they're a very similar price point.
489
00:14:30,290 --> 00:14:31,070
And that's the problem.
490
00:14:31,490 --> 00:14:33,230
Because the 103 is a bit brighter than
491
00:14:33,230 --> 00:14:33,770
the 32.
492
00:14:34,150 --> 00:14:35,130
If I'm going to tell someone to spend
493
00:14:35,130 --> 00:14:39,070
$500 or $600 on the Shure when they
494
00:14:39,070 --> 00:14:40,950
can spend a skosh more and get a
495
00:14:40,950 --> 00:14:41,270
Neumann.
496
00:14:41,370 --> 00:14:42,090
I mean, Neumann.
497
00:14:42,250 --> 00:14:44,150
It's so hard to say it's worth it
498
00:14:44,150 --> 00:14:46,830
because, frankly, at the bottom, you know, unfortunately,
499
00:14:47,050 --> 00:14:47,710
it's true, though.
500
00:14:48,450 --> 00:14:51,330
Brand recognition and microphones is kind of a
501
00:14:51,330 --> 00:14:51,590
thing.
502
00:14:52,290 --> 00:14:53,810
So you have Neumann in your studio.
503
00:14:54,670 --> 00:14:55,690
I agree with you.
504
00:14:55,870 --> 00:14:56,790
They are very similar.
505
00:14:56,930 --> 00:14:57,970
And if they're at the same price point,
506
00:14:58,050 --> 00:14:58,950
it's like, I'll buy the Ferrari.
507
00:14:59,930 --> 00:15:02,250
But Shure made a really good showing with
508
00:15:02,250 --> 00:15:03,250
that, I felt like.
509
00:15:03,250 --> 00:15:05,150
It's not quite a Corvette versus a Ferrari.
510
00:15:05,570 --> 00:15:07,010
Because a Corvette is like a third the
511
00:15:07,010 --> 00:15:07,810
price of the Ferrari.
512
00:15:08,830 --> 00:15:11,210
No, the problem is, if the KSM was
513
00:15:11,210 --> 00:15:12,990
like $100 or $200 under that.
514
00:15:14,010 --> 00:15:15,290
What's the price difference you said?
515
00:15:15,290 --> 00:15:17,650
The 102 and the KSM 32 are so
516
00:15:17,650 --> 00:15:18,450
close in price.
517
00:15:18,710 --> 00:15:20,890
I mean, they're only like $100 to $200
518
00:15:20,890 --> 00:15:21,610
apart.
519
00:15:22,470 --> 00:15:23,930
So that's the problem.
520
00:15:23,930 --> 00:15:24,590
200 might make the difference.
521
00:15:25,210 --> 00:15:26,110
You know, 200 might.
522
00:15:27,170 --> 00:15:29,430
I think, honestly, I think the KSM has
523
00:15:29,430 --> 00:15:29,950
the edge.
524
00:15:30,370 --> 00:15:31,170
I think it sounds better.
525
00:15:31,630 --> 00:15:32,170
I think it's warmer.
526
00:15:32,650 --> 00:15:34,250
I think the KSM sounds like the 107.
527
00:15:34,430 --> 00:15:35,050
See, I'm off price.
528
00:15:35,230 --> 00:15:36,810
I'm off base on the prices because things
529
00:15:36,810 --> 00:15:38,130
have changed and gone up.
530
00:15:38,130 --> 00:15:44,750
The KSM 32 is $599 without the shock
531
00:15:44,750 --> 00:15:45,070
mount.
532
00:15:46,210 --> 00:15:48,850
If you buy it with the shock, now
533
00:15:48,850 --> 00:15:51,450
you're getting, yeah, it's going to add another
534
00:15:51,450 --> 00:15:51,790
$100.
535
00:15:52,310 --> 00:15:54,110
And now you're getting up there with a
536
00:15:54,110 --> 00:15:57,570
TLM 102, which does not come with a
537
00:15:57,570 --> 00:15:58,190
shock mount either.
538
00:15:58,530 --> 00:16:00,910
But you can add the shock mount, right?
539
00:16:01,330 --> 00:16:04,050
So they're basically within a hundred bucks of
540
00:16:04,050 --> 00:16:04,310
each other.
541
00:16:04,570 --> 00:16:04,950
They're very close.
542
00:16:04,950 --> 00:16:08,470
I think KSM sounds a little bit warmer,
543
00:16:09,330 --> 00:16:10,970
but it doesn't have that brand name.
544
00:16:11,490 --> 00:16:11,950
Don't forget that.
545
00:16:12,390 --> 00:16:13,570
The 102 is really compact.
546
00:16:14,550 --> 00:16:15,750
And I think that's kind of nice.
547
00:16:16,010 --> 00:16:17,710
It's just nice to have a smaller mic.
548
00:16:17,890 --> 00:16:18,970
It's easier to position it.
549
00:16:19,450 --> 00:16:20,750
And I don't know.
550
00:16:21,270 --> 00:16:22,550
Andrew, have you used the 102 at all?
551
00:16:22,910 --> 00:16:23,770
No, I haven't.
552
00:16:23,790 --> 00:16:24,910
But I was thinking about the 102.
553
00:16:25,170 --> 00:16:28,350
And that reminded me of the M930, the
554
00:16:28,350 --> 00:16:29,110
Microcheck to fill.
555
00:16:29,530 --> 00:16:30,130
Yeah, yeah.
556
00:16:30,470 --> 00:16:31,150
Yeah, very similar.
557
00:16:31,430 --> 00:16:32,950
That's a beautiful mic there.
558
00:16:32,950 --> 00:16:35,390
And you don't see them around very much
559
00:16:35,390 --> 00:16:37,690
at all, which surprises me, because everyone that
560
00:16:37,690 --> 00:16:39,130
has ever used one loves them.
561
00:16:39,350 --> 00:16:39,970
They sound great.
562
00:16:42,010 --> 00:16:45,130
And they're small, so they're perfect for not
563
00:16:45,130 --> 00:16:45,730
getting in the way.
564
00:16:46,210 --> 00:16:47,810
But I still think of all of them,
565
00:16:48,830 --> 00:16:50,430
that 416 has got that sound.
566
00:16:51,230 --> 00:16:52,030
Yes, it does.
567
00:16:52,330 --> 00:16:52,610
It does.
568
00:16:53,310 --> 00:16:53,630
I know.
569
00:16:54,210 --> 00:16:54,510
Crazy.
570
00:16:56,070 --> 00:16:58,950
Well, it looks like the 416, once again,
571
00:16:59,170 --> 00:17:01,010
is the mic to go for.
572
00:17:01,510 --> 00:17:02,250
Isn't that crazy?
573
00:17:02,250 --> 00:17:04,170
I think it comes down to this.
574
00:17:04,530 --> 00:17:08,130
We are just so accustomed to the sound
575
00:17:08,130 --> 00:17:08,849
of that mic.
576
00:17:09,910 --> 00:17:12,410
It is deeply burned into our psyche.
577
00:17:13,170 --> 00:17:14,329
But you see, that's what we said last
578
00:17:14,329 --> 00:17:15,589
week when we were doing, we were talking
579
00:17:15,589 --> 00:17:16,930
about setting up at home.
580
00:17:18,630 --> 00:17:20,250
Like, invest the, chuck the money at it
581
00:17:20,250 --> 00:17:20,470
now.
582
00:17:20,589 --> 00:17:21,650
Just buy the 416.
583
00:17:22,250 --> 00:17:23,869
If it's the only mic you can afford,
584
00:17:24,290 --> 00:17:26,369
just do that one, because that's the standard.
585
00:17:26,630 --> 00:17:26,869
That's it.
586
00:17:27,369 --> 00:17:27,850
Blind taste test.
587
00:17:27,970 --> 00:17:28,290
Ready, guys?
588
00:17:29,030 --> 00:17:29,550
What's best?
589
00:17:29,950 --> 00:17:30,270
This one?
590
00:17:30,270 --> 00:17:32,250
Your niece wants an epic, fun, fatty cake
591
00:17:32,250 --> 00:17:32,930
for her birthday.
592
00:17:33,390 --> 00:17:33,650
This one?
593
00:17:33,790 --> 00:17:35,150
Your niece wants an epic, fun, fatty cake
594
00:17:35,150 --> 00:17:35,830
for her birthday.
595
00:17:36,570 --> 00:17:38,630
Your niece wants an epic, fun, fatty cake
596
00:17:38,630 --> 00:17:39,390
for her birthday.
597
00:17:40,170 --> 00:17:41,010
Which one are the three?
598
00:17:41,850 --> 00:17:42,830
Yeah, I'd go with second.
599
00:17:43,590 --> 00:17:43,990
Second?
600
00:17:45,050 --> 00:17:45,810
TLM 107.
601
00:17:46,630 --> 00:17:47,050
Oh, really?
602
00:17:47,170 --> 00:17:47,570
There you go.
603
00:17:47,810 --> 00:17:48,510
That's interesting.
604
00:17:48,710 --> 00:17:50,270
I would agree with AP that, you know,
605
00:17:50,690 --> 00:17:52,470
that sound is, and well, and George, that
606
00:17:52,470 --> 00:17:53,230
that sound is right.
607
00:17:53,310 --> 00:17:55,190
But I reckon you can still fake it.
608
00:17:55,690 --> 00:17:56,290
Well, we can make it.
609
00:17:56,710 --> 00:17:58,050
We've proved that, you know.
610
00:17:58,130 --> 00:17:59,590
You can fake it to make it.
611
00:17:59,590 --> 00:18:01,910
You don't have to have the 41 since.
612
00:18:02,770 --> 00:18:03,090
Well, we did.
613
00:18:03,270 --> 00:18:04,090
We've done it twice now.
614
00:18:04,230 --> 00:18:07,030
We've done it with the OC 818 through
615
00:18:07,030 --> 00:18:08,450
with the 4K button on the SSL.
616
00:18:09,770 --> 00:18:11,090
And we also did it years ago.
617
00:18:11,750 --> 00:18:14,030
The NT1 from Rhodes sounded like a 41
618
00:18:14,030 --> 00:18:18,170
.6. And the sphere fake 41.6 sounds
619
00:18:18,170 --> 00:18:20,290
like a 41.6. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
620
00:18:20,710 --> 00:18:22,390
You can buy the spheres now for $7
621
00:18:22,390 --> 00:18:25,550
.99. The basic base model mic has dropped
622
00:18:25,550 --> 00:18:25,970
in price.
623
00:18:26,350 --> 00:18:27,990
So maybe the tip is if you're looking
624
00:18:27,990 --> 00:18:30,050
for a mic, then that 4.1.6
625
00:18:30,050 --> 00:18:31,450
sound is what you need to look for.
626
00:18:31,670 --> 00:18:33,230
No matter what you're going for, look for
627
00:18:33,230 --> 00:18:35,210
that sound and you're on the right track.
628
00:18:35,590 --> 00:18:36,390
I just had a thought.
629
00:18:36,690 --> 00:18:39,350
Imagine the NT1 through the SSL with the
630
00:18:39,350 --> 00:18:40,490
4K button pressed.
631
00:18:41,330 --> 00:18:42,070
Come on, come on.
632
00:18:42,070 --> 00:18:42,730
Why buy ears?
633
00:18:43,430 --> 00:18:44,630
It's like an NT1F.
634
00:18:46,910 --> 00:18:47,410
That's right.
635
00:18:48,130 --> 00:18:48,590
We proved that.
636
00:18:49,950 --> 00:18:50,990
Well, that was fun.
637
00:18:51,110 --> 00:18:51,490
Is it over?
638
00:18:52,990 --> 00:18:54,230
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639
00:18:54,630 --> 00:18:55,370
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640
00:18:55,370 --> 00:18:57,070
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641
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642
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643
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644
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