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Yeah, I came over. The
name I didn't know, but my homies
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came up from that was elementary school
all the time ago. Um, the
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fact of me going to the drink
machine all the time, you know,
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getting like great soldiers before a recess
and type things. And you know,
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everybody called me great because I used
to get great solders all the time.
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That's a lot, a lot of
things. I answered, m HM UH.
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They asked me what my favorite,
you know, drink was or what
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was one of my favorite things,
where, when I was younger, I
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just said Great Solda. Then fast
forward some years later when I started doing,
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you know, music and whatnot,
it was like, man, I
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had to come up with a name, an artist's name. So I didn't
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want to come up, you know, with names like, you know,
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everybody yelp. So I just,
uh, I had to think, think
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on it and, you know,
some more unique. So I came up
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with Etsota Henderson. What's up,
everybody, this is Bella Mars and this
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is another episode of big time fresh
and we're gonna switch it up a little
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bit. I have with me one
of my good friends and, uh,
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he's a rapper out of Atlanta and, you know, I just really love
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his music. What's up? Great, what's up? What's up? What's
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up? I know you live in
Atlanta. Uh, talk a little bit
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about the Atlanta and how the scene
is down there. I mean, you
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know, it's like every other city. No, uh, but it has
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its own uniqueness with the music.
Then a lot of creatives now here.
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So, you know, it makes
doing music no fun. So you meet
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all types of walk walk of life. I mean, I'm a couple of
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no artists. I mean I'm a
couple of, you know, musicians.
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I met actors, actresses, uh, you name it, I had met
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him already. So, uh,
it's just it's just like man, just
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real. It's real, like a
a pie full of different flavors. So,
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I mean, I knew when I
was down there it was, first
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of all, the the coolest thing
that I liked that was different than any
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other city as far as the music
scene goes is, uh, the vibe.
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It just how passionate people are about
music. Um, but at the
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same time, there's a lot of
people that I ran into down there that
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aren't. You know that, I
think, are taking advantage of the artists
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that really want to be that uh, when I really want to make it,
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and so that's always, you know, a little bit discouraging. Have
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you? Have you ever had one
of those situations? UH, yeah,
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I mean I meant a few,
you know what I'm saying. I met
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a few, Um, but then, you know, I got smart,
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got older and to start researching and
understanding how the game works in and what
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you should take and what you shouldn't
take and what you should deal with what
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you shouldn't deal with. Um.
So I learned. I had to learn
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from the experienced. So a lot
of things I learned was, hey,
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just research just now, be a
homework. Yeah, okay, so like
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Internet, just instagram. You were
pretty good at that. There's UH,
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there's that one person we almost to
a show with and I was like,
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Oh, we should just talk to
him, and you're like no, nope,
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and I was like let's let's see, and you're so, you're you're
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right. So, Um. So
basically, the I'm saying that you are
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a pro at that for sure.
But you know, you've been in it
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long enough and I think, Um, you're still in your twenties. So
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you definitely you know, you have
a mature side to you. That plays
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very well. How does that help
me network. Actually, I just hit
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Oh, that's my age. I
don't I don't like discuss my age.
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You know I'm saying. I know
I was trying to say, Oh,
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you're you're in your twenties. But
yeah, you took it to the thirties.
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So okay, so your thirty one. When was your birthday? Happy
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Birthday, sorry, Nice, O. Good. So, I well,
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actually, okay, when did we
meet? UH, yeah, nineteen too,
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got nineteen. Okay, so then
it was I remember. Um,
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so I was managing somebody else at
the time, kind of like, you
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know, figuring it out. That
was my first time managing everybody, but
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I didn't let everybody. Everybody know
that, but Um, but that's when
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we met. I think we hung
out one time and then what, two
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years later? Yeah, two years
later. So Twenty nineteen, you were
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really into performing and coming out with
your music. So, yeah, I'm
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still, you know, staying the
round up doing shows and trying to know,
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get back out, get back into
it and and whatnot. So it's
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one of those things that you can't
always can't live without, you know,
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you're doing music. So ever since
the world changed, what other kind of
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opportunities have have come up? For
you music streames, doing, doing music
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scence, I meant music, doing
music syncs, you know, trying to
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get music on to like no TV
shows and video games and uh, the
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whole nine yards and uh yeah,
and trying to, you know, right
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and try to know a couple of
songs righting gigs and there, no type
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of things. So, you know, just trying to figure out, find
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a new niche whether. Yeah,
for sure, I see. I mean
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I've heard your I mean I know
from a different level, but you switched
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up your sound kind of last year
or so. What what made you want
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to do that? Um, just
do something fresh, you know what I'm
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saying, start doing something different and
not the same old, same old.
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As you know, after a while
you come on hearing the same thing to
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start getting repetitive. So I just
decided no, switch it up, no,
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give us, give rent, get
a fans something different to listen to,
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give them a different vibe. So
that was my whole thing. That's
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my whole thinking. I wanted to
expand my arriving instead of being in a
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box. So it's I think it's
better smart. Yeah, half different types
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of music out, but you know, and it's for everybody, not just,
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especially if you're into it, you
know, like you're not doing it
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because it's the what everyone else is
doing, it's because you want to try
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to and it's true, doing the
same thing over and over again with as
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fast as everything moves, with the
sound and what everybody likes to it makes
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it makes total sense, Um,
and the new sound is certainly doing pretty
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well for you. You have a
video. Where is that right? For
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which song? got that video for
the worst way of summer flame? Tell
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me about that whole album, the
EP. It was just a whole different
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type of vibe. You know,
I was going forward the R and B
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pop type sound. Uh No,
incorporated a couple of no hip hop,
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my my roots into it. No, my hip hop style and things like
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that, and it was it makes
sense at the time to make put something
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out for the summer and, you
know, something you could ride to with
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your with your lady or with your
you know, your significant other type thing
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and something that you know you and
your friends can vibe to. It.
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It's it's for all type of occasions, you know what I'm saying, for
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like barbecues, whatever, whatever you
think it'll fit. Yeah, you know
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what I'm saying. So yeah,
and it's not particularly to edny coast,
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because I know you are into the
West Coast. Um, how far back
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does that go? You're just say't
some an OB session or you're just something
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that you're really into. Uh,
not my mom's you're from L A,
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like a lot of a lot of
my mom's a they Los Angeles. They,
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you know, moved out to Los
Angeles, Um, back in the
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seventies. So and then I got
relatives out there and then we went to
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L A and a couple of months
ago and uh, I loved vibe.
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You know, I feel in like
a lot of people know. When we
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went out there, you know,
it felt like I was, you know,
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from there. So how people know
so love and you know, the
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conversations we had. It was like
different, man, you know what you
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experience in the south. It was
like a different type of conversation. What's
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that? What's get into that?
How is it different? You know,
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it's just the way the way the
the lingo and the way things are,
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things are perceived, you know,
from different, different perspective. Uh,
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it was a different type of conversation. UH, real, real home home
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feeling type vibe, like it something
you can't really explain until you actually have
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that type of conversation. So it
was just a conversation that that really you
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know, it was full of love
type type VIBE, positive energies in all
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that. So that's the type of
UH conversation we had no business talking about.
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What what's your future going to be? And what we got going on
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and, you know, you need
something, we got, you know,
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it's like so we really was politicing
out there and business, business center,
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and everybody's got the same or very
driven and like want to to do something,
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but like a family type type yeah
to it. So it was just
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like that's amazing, because that's rare
these days anywhere. Yeah, so it
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was it was a different type of
vibe for for that type of conversation.
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So is that something you'll you want
to do eventually? Maybe move out there?
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Uh, not eventually, probably somewhere
to the you know, on the
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on the West, on the West
Coast, not California, just per se,
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but you know, somewhere midwest or
you know, all the way wherever
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Texas. Is it the beach?
Are you a beach person? Uh,
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you said I'm a beach person.
Are you a beach person? Yeah,
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I love looking at the Sun Setting, the sun rise on the beach.
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It's it's it gives me like a
UH, like a real good feeling,
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you know what I'm saying. It
gives you that inspiration that that you need.
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So, yeah, I like the
beach. It sounds like you're oasis
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out there. I guess maybe it's
good that you don't go too much,
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because it makes it that much more
special when you go there and make the
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most of that time. When you
were there last time, what kind of
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how long we're be there for?
It was two days. We were there
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for two days. We were working, we were doing yeah, super quick
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work trip. So how long do
you think it would actually take for you
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to get like everything done you wanted
to, you know, have some relax
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time but also get some work done? And what do you think would be
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like a perfect amount of time to
go there for like five days, five
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six days? Yeah, right,
I'd be cool with it and then come
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back every every once a year or
twice a year, and then live it
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up, because I feel like,
especially for for places that are good like
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that, like Miami is kind of
like that too, where it's awesome to
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go visit, but if you live
there it's not, it's not as wonderful.
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So, Um, but yeah,
Callie, seems it seems like a
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wonder like awesome all the time.
It's just way too expensive. I mean,
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otherwise it sounds like a pretty,
pretty amazing. Have you ever been
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up north, for California? UH, have I been to like or no?
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Like, like, yeah, I
haven't. I have been been to
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the bay area yet. Um,
that's that's the one thing I want to
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do because it's a whole different.
I love the Bay uh, the beaches.
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It's different. Definitely not the VIBE
OF L A. But uh,
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I don't know. You should definitely
go because, yeah, definitely check that
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out, but I don't know.
I mean, I haven't been there,
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so I don't know. How the
scene. What do you think about the
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scene? Uh, the music scene
in Atlanta compared to where you were in
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in Uh l a? Um,
like you got more like scenic type things
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and a lot of Um, other
people that's doing the same thing, but
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not doing the same thing, like
they've mused. The mice talk about the
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same things you always talk about,
but they're not. But it isn't sound
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like the same. You know what
I'm saying? Everything doesn't sound the same.
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Not Everybody doing uh, you know, tramp or or you know,
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the lifestyle type music. Everything has
its own sound, like everybody has his
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own sound. Everybody going there at
their own pace. So that's that's the
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difference, I would say, with
Atlanta and UH, California, is just
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everybody close Knick, yeah, and
no lading everybody. It's like, you
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know, you gotta know such and
such, and that's pretty much where did
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the comparisons come to me. You
got to know such and such, but
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after that it's just the type of
music they do and the type of Music
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Andanta do is totally different. Yeah, I'm sure. The process, yeah,
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that's that's what makes it great,
though. So I know you said
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that one of the ways to kind
of check out if people are are worth
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worth getting to know or not.
As far as the industry goes. You
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said, uh, you know,
look, do your researching and everything like
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that, but you kind of have
a different approach and I don't know exactly
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what it is, but you have
a way to make these connections. Uh,
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like, what do you think it
is that makes it different from,
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you know, some other some other
artists that maybe have exact same opportunities or
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the exact same. You know,
they do all the research, but then
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they get in front of somebody,
and what do you think goes wrong in
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those situations? That they're not able
to make those same connections as you?
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Ego, you gotta gotta notably.
You know what I'm saying. You got
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no wins to humble yourself. Um, just be willing to be coachable,
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you know what I'm saying, or
willing to know coach too and announce ideas
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of each other. You know what
I'm saying. So it's it's all about
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your ego. A lot of a
lot of things go wrong because people egos
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are bigger than it, than the
room. So if you keep your ego
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and checking willing to be like a
team player, you don't have to worry
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about, you know what I'm saying, relationships going bad and, uh,
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meeting someone for the first time going
bad. It's all about how you how
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your attitude and what type of energy
you bring to the table. So I
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just say, yeah, your ego
is the main thing that we that would
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really mess up a perfect opportunity.
What did you what did you notice that?
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Or is that something you was just
a part of you? So it
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wasn't that hard to you know.
I mean it's always been important, it's
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always been a part of me.
It's just that, you know, Um,
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I hear reviews of other people,
you know what I'm saying, when
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they talking about, Oh yeah,
they rude or they know this and that,
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but it wasn't. It was.
But me personally, I was being
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the type of be, you know, a team player. I played basketball,
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I played football, played team sports. Team sports incorporated into my life.
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You know, you can't win without
having the team and being a team
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player and not being a team player
you won't go far. So that's why
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I say, I'll say, uh, learning to be a team player and
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not having the ego bigger than the
team itself. So that would I'll say.
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Have you personally, have you seen
that or come across people like that?
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Yeah, yeah, I played,
I played sports, so of course
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you'll see somebody selfish or see somebody
think they are bigger than everybody on the
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team or think they the main guy
or whatever, you know, and uh,
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and just yeah, then if you
had that time of attitude, team
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chemistry goes damn or round goes down
and you know, uh, then you
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have like people don't want to play
with you or they don't want to be,
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you know, associated with you.
Yeah, type of things. So
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how you create enemies? Yeah,
but the bird bridge. This part is
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it's like you burn one bridge and
somebody figures out that you burned the bridge.
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It's like you're done, like don't
even try. Yeah, who has
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been the biggest surprise that you know, you've been working with or well with,
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and then they're like, oh,
hey, I know this person that
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could help you out with that,
because it doesn't seem like something that you
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actively search for. It's kind of
just organic, which I think is very
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unique in itself. So what's the
biggest or most memorable situation in that right
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now? Man Working with bill of
man, just working with no my team
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or Curti, drow Dre meers,
and you know, uh, that that
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that the whole squad right there.
Business. Now it's it became a lot
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of resources bouncing off each other,
y'all, with the with the twins,
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and chat like get in uh,
information from them. No, using their
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resources and stuff like that. You
know, me offering my resources. No,
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it's a it's more of a shareable
thing. It's not about being,
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Oh uh, keeping everything for yourself. It's about hip and the next man
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because, hey, they eat,
we all eat. Type thing. Yeah,
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so a lot of people don't understand
that. People want to be first
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and everything, but it's all about
no resources. You've got resources, Hey,
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just no, give them to somebody
you know we're going to really use
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them and use them properly. So
because you don't want to share your resources
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with somebody who's gonna make you look
like, yeah, make a little bad
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and make your names no, put
bad on your name. So you don't
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want to waste the people time and
you don't want to say nobody're gonna waste
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their time. So yeah, so
it sounds pretty pretty seriously, you gotta
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you gotta keep yourself in and check, especially these days. Do you think
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that's something? You know, back
in the day, maybe, or nineties
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or nineties, people kind of salt
rappers as Um, unattainable in the sense
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that they are very high sadus.
I feel like that's changed a lot because,
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Um, I'm trying to be the
best. You just kind of said
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it, uh, the artists,
that I have to be the best.
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I'm the best trap. But there's
a lot of that beef. Do you
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see any of that kind of vibe
these days. And for the bigger artists.
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Uh Me, honestly, I don't
really pay attention to bigger artists because
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they really not know, they don't
wrap about things. No, I can
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relate to. So I'm mostly listening
to people in my sex. You know
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what I'm saying, people, I'm
coming up with. So my thing is,
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I really don't pay attention to now
because they've got so much going on
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with the shootings and, you know, the publicity stunts and Um, all
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the bad juice you going on with
them. I don't want to. I
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don't I wanna be involved. You
no listening to what they got to say.
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I really don't even listen to,
uh, mainstream artists like there.
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I listen to like, you know, underground artists and indie artists and the
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type things. So, yeah,
so, like, who who would you
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beat? Who are your top artists
you listen to? Man, I listen
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to my team, like people I'm
associated with every day. You know,
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I them more than I listen to
you know, even buy yours. Um,
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I mean I got a couple of
no, I list too, like
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my uh, like Don Kennedy,
Larry Joan and Um, currency, snoop,
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I would say, but that's that's
grown up. I've been listening to
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snoop. You know, everybody is. It's Uh, if you don't,
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you're not in hip hop, or
you're not hip hop if you don't b
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o G. Yeah, but that's
Um, it's interesting because those artists,
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Um, like currency and Larry June
and the ones that you just mentioned.
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They their style is it's similar to
your style, and you know it can't
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it's your style and you know that
style. kind of feel like it's been
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flying under the radar. I feel
like it's talent again that's driving the industry.
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How do you think it's been over
the different genres? Like what genre
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over the past, and I know
genre is kind of a big, you
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know, concept of that doesn't exists
in reality, but over the recent years,
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what in hip hop have you seen? That was probably like a huge
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mistake, that that threw off the
whole culture a little bit. Yeah,
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I say. I say the social
media, like publicity and Um, people,
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you know what I'm saying, doing
doing crazy stuff, trying to get
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go borrow and all that type things, and just being out there, just
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being on social media every day just
brings out the toxic uh atmosphere with the
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music and stuff like that. Showing, no, showing off of me.
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That type of guy. But you
know what I'm saying. But I'd be
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like Hey, man, do you
man? Whatever makes you know, get
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you get you up. Hey,
cool with but me personally, you just
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I would say it's just like a
lot of the the publicity on social media,
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all the crazy stunts and stuff.
So that's terrible. So, Um,
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so, if somebody came to you, because it's kind of along the
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stand lines, and they're like,
Hey, you got a record deal,
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uh, it's a three sixty.
So you know, you gotta do everything
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I say and I give you all
this money, but you have to pay
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it back when you start making money
versus what you're doing now. But it
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might take longer and you might overall
make less money. Which one do you
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think would be your choice? I
mean, it depend on person situation.
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I really can't say. You know, whatever a person think it's good for
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them. I say, you know, let them choose what they think it's
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good for them, because you never
know, uh, somebody's situation like three
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six deal might be good for them. Yeah, and then you know,
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just the other route might be a
better rap for, you know, for
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whoever. So, yeah, it's
about for you. Yeah, Um me,
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I'd rather I'd rather just say like
do, do what I'm doing.
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Just be indie. Yeah, all
right. Yeah, I'm not too big.
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I don't really care about it,
trying to, you know, be
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be signs and thin, because it's
a lot of policy that come with it.
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Yeah, and there's a lot of
things that come with so me personally,
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I'll just say I would say stay
independent and uh, like as a
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lot of other artists would say,
stay independent. Um, they knew what
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was going on with the record companies
and plus, you really don't need a
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record label. The only thing you
need a record label for it is pretty
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much promo, like, you know, get you on radios and get you
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in places that you can't reach.
But you know, they got this resources
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and whatnot. So do you think
that most people know that? I mean,
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it depends. It depends on what. If they research, it's all
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about research. Yeah, I feel
like, uh, the whole the messaging
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is still the same, at least
the kids who are coming up, you
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know, the twenty year olds who
are trying to make it. They're like,
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Oh, I want to record deal, like, do you want to
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record deal? I don't, you
know, I think it's an education thing
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that needs to be a focus,
versus is all this cloud bullshit. But
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where do you think the music industry? Uh, in the HIP hop world.
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Where do you think that's had it
at this point? UH, head
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into the artists. The artists really
take control. It's like a gold rush,
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like you know, everybody got these
got their own equipment, got their
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own engineers, Um, got all
these resources to to really start your own
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label. You really don't need a
big record label to get your music out
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and Promos just I just need a
team. If you have a team,
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you have equipment and you have somebody
that can mix it. See, you
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got the majority of that part out
the way. It's just all about the
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Promo. Promo is the main thing
that Um, that's that's we'll get you
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out there and get you noticed.
Yeah, I mean I think you've got
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lucky, but I also think,
uh, it's your approach and maybe your
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age a little bit. You know, I think nowadays it's way better and
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I think they trust people, trust
artists more, at least from the business
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side, if you're twenty five or
older, because anybody who's I mean they're
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just legally learning how to act as
a drunk person because they're allowed to drink,
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and so it's just a hot mess. But so that's why I always
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worry about anybody trying to come up
when they're that young. I would trust
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you in the music world to do
shows and to do all that versus like
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a twenty year old. So I
think that's actually what the industry is looking
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for as a big part of the
decisions to move forward with a particular artist,
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just Um, and the General First
Impressions, which I think Um,
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which I think you do well.
So what has put you on the path
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to like kind of like a huge
step forward? Oh, just just pay
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attention to know the environment. No, pay attention who UH is moving,
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you know, and WHO's trying to
move and WHO's trying to, you know,
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get get somewhere, instead of no, just being hanging around people that's
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just in the same spot. Just
see how people move pretty much and see
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they're on the same way, but
you, because they're on the same way
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with you, you're gonna connect.
Then once you connect with them, they're
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gonna have other people that you know
trying to move and they know somebody and
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they know somebody. It's like it's
like a ladder. The more, the
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more people know, the more pieces
you have and how you're gonna get you
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know what I'm saying. So is
that how you find uh? I know
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a lot of times you have some
females who do some amazing their very talented
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singers. How do you is that
how you find them, or do you
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kind of just look on instagram?
How does that work for you? I
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just had Um, just it just
twins, like twins. Uh had no,
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no artists. Then, you know, I meet them and you know,
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and they're dope artists. All the
all the artists, all the female
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artists I've met are dope artists,
like and the twins. No music.
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And then, you know, they
bugged me in with him. So now
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I got connected with those female artists, which is like no great and so
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from that point it's just like man, just building, building and building and
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building. So would you consider yourself, uh, is that a skill that
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you had to develop? The networking
part, I developed. I developed enough.
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You know it's saying. It got
me into a point where I'm with,
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you know, the right type of
people. Um, you know what
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I'm saying I had to develop at
and at a young age and which it
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was my weak point. Trying to
meet New People was was a weak point
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for me. UH, yeah,
early in the career. But now I
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just got better at it. Yeah, now you're freaking proud. You could,
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probably, you could. Probably.
Yeah, you know how to work
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the room now. And I grew
up, you know, I had to
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mature and become a businessman too same
time and realize that this is my brain
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that's on the line and I can't
be no complacent. I don't want to
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keep calling them kids. What advice
would you give them, like what can
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they do now to start getting better
at the whole networking process? And my
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experience, that is the thing that
will open all of the doors. If
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you can't do it, then you're
not gonna make it. Um, so,
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and when I tell people that,
they're just like no, but it's
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true. So, Um, how
did you get over it? Um,
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I just you know, when out
with H L DJ L Um, when
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he dj and stuff like that early. Yeah, you know, I just
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said, and you know we started
talking to people and you know, I
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got introduced. After that, I
started to do some myself to people and
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so and so forth. It really
took uh social events, like going to
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like you know, his Dj says, and doing shows and meeting people at
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shows, conversating, you know,
meeting, meeting people all around, like
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do that, hang around my homies. Know, I just know introduced myself
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and you know we call close with
those those uh contexts, you know.
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And that's let's talk about your who's
in your career? And Huh and uh,
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because I know you have talked about
the plans. Uh. So,
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who else? Let's talk about that. UH, yeah, man, it's
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we got. We got a lot
of people. Um, I know my
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crew, Uh Billa, barbs man, you got Curtis Droe, Dre Miers
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Nick, you have uh Lord Bisk
Uh Villa. Um, it's a it's
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a lot. That's that's a lot. Yeah, so you guys all have
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a you all bring something to the
table and you guys all help each other.
411
00:29:48.640 --> 00:29:53.200
And in your family. Yeah,
exactly were you brought in or were
412
00:29:53.240 --> 00:29:59.720
you part of I was there?
No, yea, uh, with the
413
00:29:59.759 --> 00:30:03.240
Star at the start of you know
what I'm saying. Um, he had
414
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like no droe had the name for
his no, for the collective, for
415
00:30:07.839 --> 00:30:12.200
his collective, and whatnot that I
had lots of great dre has, uh
416
00:30:12.279 --> 00:30:18.680
the drinkers club, Um, you
know, Kurt Droe has billy vibes,
417
00:30:18.759 --> 00:30:23.359
and Lord Biss has his brand,
the wood fire, Um, and yeah,
418
00:30:23.480 --> 00:30:27.839
everybody, we just all came together
under one no, under one UH
419
00:30:29.079 --> 00:30:33.319
umbrella and whatnot, and became just
uh in tune with each other. You
420
00:30:33.319 --> 00:30:37.640
know, it's just all about it's
a family of different no, type of
421
00:30:37.720 --> 00:30:44.039
types of backgrounds. So everybody has
their own thing going on and type things.
422
00:30:44.079 --> 00:30:48.720
So you yourself as the brand.
How did you get from where it
423
00:30:48.799 --> 00:30:55.279
started to where you are now?
UH, brandon, wearing show, wearing
424
00:30:55.319 --> 00:30:59.039
shirts and shows and telling people about
it, showing them that, you know,
425
00:30:59.200 --> 00:31:02.960
give them physical, you know,
something to look at when I wear
426
00:31:03.519 --> 00:31:07.279
uh my my braind and my uh
music videos. You know, that really
427
00:31:07.319 --> 00:31:11.119
gets catch people eyes and and stuff
like that. Um, no, just
428
00:31:11.200 --> 00:31:15.880
doing other things, like I'm about
to start a gaming channel soon. So
429
00:31:15.599 --> 00:31:18.599
like that, great gaming. So
you know, get people in tune with
430
00:31:18.640 --> 00:31:22.720
that. You know, that really
gonna know, skyrocket everything for you know,
431
00:31:22.839 --> 00:31:26.000
you play it right. Uh.
Yeah, it's just different. It's
432
00:31:26.039 --> 00:31:30.240
just different things that go into it. So be a leader, not a
433
00:31:30.279 --> 00:31:37.359
follower. Yeah, whatever works for
you. Yeah, right. Um,
434
00:31:37.400 --> 00:31:42.519
so what got you into the West
Coast Music or the sound? Just growing
435
00:31:42.640 --> 00:31:45.880
up, UH, listening to my
uncles. They used to play. I
436
00:31:45.920 --> 00:31:52.880
remember the first album listen to was
the Dr Dre Kronnie. Oh right,
437
00:31:52.920 --> 00:31:56.160
with my pots snoop Dogg, George
Clinton, growing up, listen to George,
438
00:31:56.839 --> 00:32:00.599
listen to Zappi, Roger, the
whole that whole type of that style
439
00:32:00.599 --> 00:32:05.960
of music really transition me. Until
you know, I love that type of
440
00:32:06.000 --> 00:32:07.759
the melodies, I love the type
of sense, I love the type of
441
00:32:07.960 --> 00:32:12.160
Basse, I love all of it. It really put me into place.
442
00:32:12.200 --> 00:32:16.079
So you know what I'm saying.
Just yeah, you're more lyrical, kind
443
00:32:16.079 --> 00:32:22.240
of like that with because you gotta
have a solid, musical, well put
444
00:32:22.279 --> 00:32:29.759
together track. And you write your
own stuff too, and that's coming back.
445
00:32:29.799 --> 00:32:34.119
So you're already head of the game. So Um. So that's amazing.
446
00:32:34.119 --> 00:32:36.640
Do you want to play a game? I have some hip hop trivia.
447
00:32:37.279 --> 00:32:38.640
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm forward. Let's go.
448
00:32:38.720 --> 00:32:42.920
Okay, all right, let's see. All right, I didn't check these
449
00:32:42.920 --> 00:32:45.440
out. I kind of did a
quick peak and I knew maybe two of
450
00:32:45.480 --> 00:32:50.240
them, but I think you're gonna
depend with me. All right, so
451
00:32:50.440 --> 00:32:54.119
this is just random hip hop trivia
and, uh, I don't know.
452
00:32:54.200 --> 00:33:00.400
Let's see. Okay, what is
widely considered to be the first ever hip
453
00:33:00.400 --> 00:33:14.279
hop track? Mm Hmm, while, mm hmmm. I would say it's
454
00:33:14.279 --> 00:33:19.759
a hard one because I don't know. I wouldn't what push your man rappers
455
00:33:19.799 --> 00:33:25.599
to like Rapp Um, sugarhead game? Yeah, sugar, yeah, that's
456
00:33:25.680 --> 00:33:32.880
what's yeah, thank you, hopefully. Okay. Does eminem have more or
457
00:33:34.000 --> 00:33:40.480
less number one albums than Jay z? List? Yes, sir, Eminem
458
00:33:40.519 --> 00:33:45.160
has ten. Jay Z has thirteen. Yeah, okay. Who is the
459
00:33:45.200 --> 00:33:52.240
wealthiest hip hop artist? M Worthy, I would say j Jay Z.
460
00:33:53.559 --> 00:33:57.720
Oh, damn, that's true.
When was this? Because this one says
461
00:33:57.799 --> 00:34:01.759
Kanye. Let me send with this. Oh, July teeth. All right,
462
00:34:02.000 --> 00:34:05.279
I don't know. I agree with
you, though. It says Kanye
463
00:34:05.319 --> 00:34:08.840
West. Oh, yeah, yeah, Um, maybe it's because I love
464
00:34:08.880 --> 00:34:13.639
beyonce. I was you know,
Jay Z is everything. Okay. Um,
465
00:34:13.639 --> 00:34:17.639
which hip hop artist or band has
the most number one singles? I
466
00:34:17.679 --> 00:34:24.840
would say drake. Yep, m
what do you think of Drake? Drake
467
00:34:24.880 --> 00:34:28.719
Dope? I grew up listening to
jerk. I grew up listening to drake
468
00:34:28.760 --> 00:34:32.679
in high school when he first came
out. I feel like he's a definite.
469
00:34:32.800 --> 00:34:40.239
He's a really good example of you
gotta be likable and, uh,
470
00:34:40.559 --> 00:34:44.880
you can't be a Dick. Maybe
he is at this point. He can't
471
00:34:44.880 --> 00:34:49.280
afford to be a Dick because nobody
would care. But they always seem to
472
00:34:49.280 --> 00:34:54.639
be approachable kind of, you know, yeh Um, okay, I don't
473
00:34:54.679 --> 00:34:59.239
know this one. Okay, how
about this one. What was the name
474
00:34:59.360 --> 00:35:05.920
of end be as first album NIGGA's
with? I think NIGGAS. No,
475
00:35:06.599 --> 00:35:14.599
Niggas for life. Close. Yeah, it's almost like too easy. Yeah,
476
00:35:14.679 --> 00:35:19.719
yeah, straight out of yeah,
this sounds easy. These next you're
477
00:35:19.719 --> 00:35:22.880
easy. I'm gonna stick that one
because it's twoy, which label was founded
478
00:35:22.920 --> 00:35:30.880
in ninety three by puff daddy and
has become home to many artists. Yeah,
479
00:35:30.199 --> 00:35:32.719
I don't think he goes by puff
daddy anymore. I don't know what
480
00:35:32.800 --> 00:35:38.280
that is. This is bullshit,
this game. Um, Oh, here's
481
00:35:38.400 --> 00:35:43.119
here's a nerd, nerdy one.
And what year was a parental, parental
482
00:35:43.159 --> 00:35:49.960
advisory label introduced by the Recording Industry
Association of America? Late eighties, like
483
00:35:50.519 --> 00:35:55.159
five? Oh my God, yes, yeah, came up. Oh,
484
00:35:55.239 --> 00:35:59.840
that's right, yeah, uncle Luga
end up, you know, yeah,
485
00:36:00.039 --> 00:36:05.360
when they really brought the Gamester rapping. What do you think of East Coast?
486
00:36:05.440 --> 00:36:08.400
I know, so obviously west coast
is you like West Coast? What
487
00:36:08.440 --> 00:36:15.440
about? I love, like,
uh, like the Woltan clan, stuff
488
00:36:15.480 --> 00:36:22.559
like that. You know, big
Ellen and old Oh, hip hop from
489
00:36:22.599 --> 00:36:30.199
New York? Yeah, south.
What about from the South? Oh,
490
00:36:30.239 --> 00:36:36.000
I love the back in the day
south music, like Uncle Luke and no
491
00:36:36.119 --> 00:36:40.760
outcasts and stuff like that. That's
what I grew up off of. Yeah,
492
00:36:40.880 --> 00:36:47.400
outcasts. Yeah, so okay.
What what are pioneers? Dj Cool
493
00:36:47.440 --> 00:36:57.440
of her Africa, Bambada and grandmaster
Flash, better known as M H.
494
00:36:58.760 --> 00:37:05.000
They're better on this Zulu nation.
See, I I think that. Oh,
495
00:37:05.039 --> 00:37:07.920
it's closed after Coomba bought it in
the zoo Zula nation, but it's
496
00:37:07.920 --> 00:37:14.360
called, they say, the Holy
Trinity of Hip Hop. Yeah, I
497
00:37:14.519 --> 00:37:19.000
know that. I don't. Some
of these, I feel like, weren't
498
00:37:19.039 --> 00:37:25.159
written by people who actually because they
said tough Daddy. That's where I'm like,
499
00:37:25.599 --> 00:37:32.079
I don't know, back into thousands
stuff. Yeah, you wouldn't.
500
00:37:35.000 --> 00:37:38.679
Yeah, like look, how is
billionaire businessman, producer and artist Sean Carter,
501
00:37:38.840 --> 00:37:46.079
better known as Jay z? Yeah, uh, okay, Don what's
502
00:37:46.119 --> 00:37:50.280
the biggest thing that you think will
get you to where you need to go?
503
00:37:51.440 --> 00:37:53.880
Having a positive minster. You know
what I'm saying now? Answer.
504
00:37:54.320 --> 00:37:59.719
Yeah, just not giving up,
not having that uh, whatever you think,
505
00:38:00.000 --> 00:38:02.159
if you speaking to the universe,
it comes back to you. So,
506
00:38:02.280 --> 00:38:07.400
you know, we speak positivity into
the universe and, uh, I
507
00:38:07.440 --> 00:38:10.760
think positive and you know, be
positive. So everything in the round of
508
00:38:10.880 --> 00:38:14.719
being positive and, you know,
positivity, and surround myself, you know,
509
00:38:14.840 --> 00:38:17.320
people with the same mindset, with
positivity. It's going to get us
510
00:38:17.360 --> 00:38:22.280
to where we need to be.
You just stay working in grinding. What
511
00:38:22.320 --> 00:38:24.480
are you looking forward to for the
rest of this year? Well, she
512
00:38:24.519 --> 00:38:30.960
got coming out, uh, finishing
up the project called game so separately.
513
00:38:32.400 --> 00:38:37.320
Oh, I like that. Yeah, game so separately gain worse way.
514
00:38:37.119 --> 00:38:42.480
Uh really get that put out.
Um, I got the rough draft too.
515
00:38:42.559 --> 00:38:46.480
It looks real good. Uh Damn. Waiting on this, the live
516
00:38:46.840 --> 00:38:53.599
recording of what I did, you
know, uh, for for this,
517
00:38:54.280 --> 00:38:58.920
for a show. So, Oh, is it that one where it was
518
00:38:59.000 --> 00:39:01.920
kind of like the yeah in the
Chap in that church? Yeah, yeah,
519
00:39:02.039 --> 00:39:07.360
wait on that. And what's up? Tell me about the game souls
520
00:39:07.360 --> 00:39:10.280
separately. That's the dope. Name
game sold separately. It's just, you
521
00:39:10.320 --> 00:39:15.760
know, some some smooth, real
smooth, laid back type vibes. Right,
522
00:39:15.519 --> 00:39:17.800
Um, going back to the essence
of, you know, where I
523
00:39:17.840 --> 00:39:22.239
first started rapping, bringing out,
you know, the smooth sounds to play,
524
00:39:22.400 --> 00:39:28.519
to play in type energy. So
bringing that back. You know,
525
00:39:28.519 --> 00:39:30.880
you're gonna still have your R and
be on there. Still don't have that
526
00:39:30.960 --> 00:39:34.760
type, but it's more, you
know, just uh, hip hop based.
527
00:39:35.559 --> 00:39:39.679
Yeah, the smooth players sounds.
When do you when is that?
528
00:39:40.360 --> 00:39:45.239
When do you think that's gonna come
out? Schedule? Shooting for October?
529
00:39:45.880 --> 00:39:50.920
UH, yeah, it's gonna be
a whole et. No, it's gonna
530
00:39:50.920 --> 00:39:55.920
be a project. Okay, prior
to US songs on that. Wow,
531
00:39:58.400 --> 00:40:00.800
yeah, you're gonna be proud to
us, and I'm saying send, you
532
00:40:00.800 --> 00:40:04.639
know, everything for once to get
mixed and unless you hear. Yeah,
533
00:40:04.719 --> 00:40:09.599
for sure. I appreciate you being
a guest and I'm glad I got to
534
00:40:10.039 --> 00:40:14.559
to know you a little bit more. Oh yeah, ain't no problem,
535
00:40:14.599 --> 00:40:19.480
anytime, any time, all right. Well, Um, I will wrap
536
00:40:19.559 --> 00:40:22.000
this up. Talk to you later. All right, hi, guys.
537
00:40:23.159 --> 00:40:27.199
Hey, so one more thing,
and this is totally my fault, but
538
00:40:27.320 --> 00:40:30.719
I forgot the most important part of
the interview. Total rooky mistake. You
539
00:40:30.719 --> 00:40:36.280
can find grape soda Henderson on facebook. So facebook DOT com. It's life
540
00:40:36.400 --> 00:40:40.119
is grape soda. You can go
on instagram. It's that grape soda boy.
541
00:40:40.159 --> 00:40:45.599
So th ht grape soda boy.
UH, definitely check out his merch
542
00:40:45.039 --> 00:40:50.599
it's it's pretty dope. It's go
to life. Is Grape clothing company DOT
543
00:40:50.639 --> 00:40:54.360
com. And then, uh,
Youtube. He has his own page,
544
00:40:54.400 --> 00:41:00.920
but you can also go to um
where his collective has there or all of
545
00:41:00.960 --> 00:41:04.599
their music videos, and that is
look up villa vibes. So it's VI
546
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I L L A V I B
easy. The music video for worst way
547
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is out now. And then you
can listen to grape soda Henderson's music on
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