Jan. 13, 2025

California Wildfires: The Devastating Impact of Climate Change

California Wildfires: The Devastating Impact of Climate Change

In this episode of the How to Protect the Ocean podcast, host Andrew Lewin discusses the devastating wildfires in Los Angeles, emphasizing the significant role climate change plays in their occurrence and intensity. Lewin highlights that the wildfires...

In this episode of the How to Protect the Ocean podcast, host Andrew Lewin discusses the devastating wildfires in Los Angeles, emphasizing the significant role climate change plays in their occurrence and intensity.

Lewin highlights that the wildfires are exacerbated by a phenomenon known as "hydroclimate whiplash," where California experiences extreme fluctuations between wet and dry conditions. In 2023, the state saw record precipitation and lush vegetation growth, but by 2024, drought conditions led to that vegetation drying out, creating ample fuel for wildfires. The situation was further intensified by the Santa Ana winds, which reached speeds of up to 90 miles per hour, allowing fires to spread rapidly and uncontrollably.

The episode underscores that these abrupt climate variations, intensified by global climate change, contribute to the increasing frequency and severity of wildfires. Lewin stresses that ignoring the science behind climate change and the resulting environmental conditions will only lead to more disasters, as seen in both California and Hawaii. He calls for urgent action and the election of decision-makers who acknowledge and are willing to address climate change effectively.

Overall, the episode serves as a somber reminder of the real and devastating impacts of climate change on communities, urging listeners to recognize the urgency of the situation and take action.

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That science, that science is going to be key. Because if

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we ignore that science and sort of put our head in the sand and think it's all about vegetation

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management, we're not going to succeed together protecting Californians. That

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was a clip from a number of years ago, I think it was 2020, where Donald Trump

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was talking to a panel discussing the wildfires that we're having at that

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point that were devastating communities within California. Sound

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familiar? This is the problem with what's happening with

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wildfires. Climate change is causing things that

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we cannot control and the Santa Ana fire that's

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happening in LA right now due to the Santa Ana winds is

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out of control. And it's really difficult to fight, no matter how

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much water you have, no matter how many people you have, just because of the

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speed of the winds and how dry things are. We're gonna talk

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today, on today's episode of the How to Protect the Ocean podcast, about why

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the fires happen, the blame and the myths that are going on, the

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fact that people are in a very vulnerable position, and what we

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can do about it. On this episode of the How to Protect the Ocean podcast, let's

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start the show. Hey,

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everybody, welcome back to a somber episode of the How to Protect the Ocean

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podcast. I am your host, Andrew Lewin, and this is the podcast where you find out what's happening with

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the ocean, how you can speak up for the ocean, and what you can do to live for a

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better ocean by taking action. And this is an

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episode that I don't ever want to cover. This is something that is

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devastating to a number of people in L.A. County, and it's

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a really difficult pill to swallow for all of us. It's

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a perfect example, unfortunately, of the devastation that climate change

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can cause, and we are in the thick of it. This

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is a problem where there's really not much

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we can do until these winds of the Santa Ana winds really

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stops. And it's scary. It is

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scary. Now, I would love to say that this is a once-in-a-lifetime thing.

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but this has been predicted for quite some time. And we're gonna talk about it on today's

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episode because I think it's something that we do need to talk about it. I've

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done a little bit of research and I wanna talk about a few things of why this

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happened, the blame and the myths that are going around the

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fire, as well as, people are in a very vulnerable

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position. They're getting hurt, they've lost their homes, they've lost their

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childhood memories, they've lost a lot, people have lost their

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lives. You know, it is a difficult thing. This

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is not just a case where celebrities are losing their homes and they can buy new

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homes. That could be true. There's a lot of people who

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are suffering right now and a lot of the fire people that are out there doing

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their best to put this fire out and putting themselves in danger again

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in a vulnerable position to fires where they're just

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trying to contain. They know they can't put out right away until

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these winds die down. So we're going to talk about What the

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heck happened? It goes back a couple of years. In

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2023, there was a lot of precipitation in California. They had

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record snowfalls up in the mountains. They had a

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lot of water. In fact, in the spring, they had a lot of landslides, and

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they had a lot of disasters regarding water. There was a lot of floods. LA got flooded.

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But in that time, there was so much water that all this

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vegetation grew, and it was quite lush for

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quite some time, for about a year. In comes 2024, super dry in LA. Very,

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very dry in California, drought conditions, all that vegetation just

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dried up. That just becomes an accelerant for any

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type of fire that could happen. It doesn't matter how it started, once

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that starts, if you get a bad wind, see where I'm going with this,

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if you get a bad wind, you're in trouble. And

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that is what really happened this year, a

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few weeks ago. The Santa Ana winds, which happen every

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once in a while, were massive this year. They

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were 90 mile an hour winds, and they still haven't settled

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down. It's caused any type of ignition of

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vegetation to go widespread. There were reports

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of, you know, five football fields of area

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being covered within an hour. Just think about that.

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Think about how fast this fire can go. You've seen pictures,

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you've seen videos of the fires. You've seen

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what's happened before, what happened during and what happened after. People

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had to leave just in the nick of time because they could not predict how

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fast this fire was going to spread. There are a number of

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different fires and you just never know. Once the winds change, you never know

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where it's going to go. Scientists refer to this Scientists

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refer to this action of being super

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wet conditions to super dry conditions as a hydroclimate whiplash,

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where essentially it happens where it gets extremely wet for one year, extremely

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dry, and then they're intensified by global climate

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change. So the wetness is intensified by global climate change, and the

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dryness is intensified by global climate change. It's

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climate change, folks. It's what people have been saying all along.

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And this is the problem that we have. These

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abrupt climate variations contribute to the increased vegetation growth during

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wet periods and followed by the drying of that vegetation during droughts,

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creating an abundant fuel for wildfires. This

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pattern has been observed in California, exacerbating the frequency and intensity

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of wildfires. This has been happening for a long time, but it's getting worse and

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worse. And once you get those bad winds, those Sandana winds, you get what

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we have right now, an absolute disaster, $250 billion

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worth of damage, 250 billion with a B. It's

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the cost of climate change. Unfortunately, it's putting

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people at risk. It doesn't matter where you are in your

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1% or a 99%, it doesn't matter. It's coming for us. And

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if you're put in vulnerable positions, if you live in an area that

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is vulnerable to wildfires or drought or flooding, eventually

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it's gonna catch up. And if we continue to ignore climate change,

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these are the things that are gonna happen. We saw it out in Hawaii,

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in Maui, and now we're seeing it here in California. And it's devastating. It's

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absolutely devastating. I feel so bad for the people who had to

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go through that. I have friends who lost their childhood homes

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and their childhood friends have lost their homes. Parents

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just barely getting out, 11 dead so far. It's

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absolutely devastating. And we continue to have people like the

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next president that's coming in in a couple of weeks to talk that, hey, it's

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gonna get cooler in a couple of years. This is what he said in 2020. It's gonna

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get cooler in a couple of years. You just watch. We've had record heat

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every single year, including last year in 2024. And there

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are arguments all the time. I always see it. It's, you know, it's, It's

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it's wet. So why is it the things now? Everything's not warming. It's

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wet outside. We're getting rain. We're getting all this stuff. It's not snowing

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or it's snowed too much. How's this global warming? It's

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always the same thing. People believe in conspiracy theories. You

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know, it's government trying to control people. It's climate change.

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The scientists have been saying it for years for decades. And

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we continue to just ignore the people in charge that we elect to

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be in charge, continue to ignore the signs, continue to

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ignore what people are going through. It's like they don't even care.

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All they care about is the money that they're paid to get in to

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power. And it's really interesting because when you see these disasters happen,

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the blame game starts to show up and all the myths start to

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show up. you know, the blame first going on the fire department, which why

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are you blaming the fire department when the fire department is the one

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that is out there trying to stop

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these fires from happening, which is virtually impossible. And you have like, you know,

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the chief firefighter. was a woman criticized because she

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came out one time and said, yes, there will be, you know, the fire department will

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be focusing on making a diverse, equitable and inclusive workplace.

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That's all that she that's all she said one time. And now it's like, oh, well, it's because she's

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not hiring white men, that this is the problem that

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we're in. They can't put out the fire. That's not the case. That was debunked. And

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that's not the case. It does not matter how many firefighters we

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have. It does not matter how much water is available. The fact that these

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winds are picking up the fire in such dry conditions due to climate change,

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we're in trouble. That's why these fires are happening. And it is insane.

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People are even saying there's not enough water in, you know, the

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hydrants are like drying up. The chief came out

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and said, hey, you know, we have the right amount of water. It's

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just, there's not enough. They have a million gallon tanks of water waiting.

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to be used in the hydrants. It's just not enough. It's very difficult to predict this

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extent of fire, the intensity, the speed

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at which this fire is going. It is almost impossible to stop.

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And they just have to wait till the fires die down. And then unfortunately, people

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are in a vulnerable position because of climate change. This is what

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we've been saying. This is why scientists are so frustrated. There's

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data that comes out. We tell the people, the people who are making money because that

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are causing climate change say, you know what? We want to continue to make money. So

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we're just going to pay off the decision makers and we're going to start putting

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out misinformation out there. And we're going to say, Hey, you know what? Let's,

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let's not worry about climate change. It's not even real. Don't even worry about all this stuff.

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The scientists are saying they're just elitist. They just want to control you. It's

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not, it's nothing. It's insane. It's insane to even think. that

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we're at a position like this. I find it funny that the next

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president is blaming the governor for saying, hey, there's not

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enough water because you diverted some water for smelt,

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which is a conservation project way north of

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where the fires are. And then there's also a situation

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where, well, they got rid of a dam. And they could use the

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water from the dam for an indigenous reconciliation project. And

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that's the reason. That's not the reason. It's the decades of

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federal government ignoring climate change and not doing

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anything about it. And to be honest, anybody who has

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been in power, whether it be Democrats or Republicans, who

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have been the president over the last like three, four

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decades are responsible because they did not move at

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all, or they did not move fast enough to help climate change. Or

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they reversed all the actions that were done in climate change, AKA Donald

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Trump, getting out of the Paris Accord. We continue to

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fall within these traps. It's continuous. We try and

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blame all of these people, blame the mayor for cutting the

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budget of the fire department, which they never really did. It was debunked.

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And here we are, we have people who are living in areas that

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are vulnerable to fire. They are spending millions on

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their homes and they are losing out because the

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insurance companies are getting out of dodge. They're getting out of California

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because it's so difficult. Their insurance claims canceled.

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or their insurance canceled, or they're not renewed because they live in

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a fire hazard. If you want to know about climate change and where the most vulnerable

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spots are, you watch where insurance companies will not cover

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certain disasters. They're starting to get out of Florida because of hurricanes, and

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the Southeast because of hurricanes, and they're getting out of California and other places because

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of fire. Because they can't, they don't have the reserves, they don't have the

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money to cover the amount of money that's required

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to cover all these disasters. They're not built for that. So

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they get out of there. They know way ahead of time. And whether they

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may not renew your insurance for that coverage, or

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they don't offer it to you at all anymore on new houses or new bills.

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They know exactly what's happening. And they just get out. And then we're

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stuck with the bill. The people are stuck with the bill. And look, I

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get it. We see celebrities on TV because it's

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in LA, it's in Hollywood. And people are like, oh, well, you

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know, these celebrities, they make millions, tens of millions, hundreds of

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millions of dollars. Why should we care? They're going to be able to buy a nice house. Yes.

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I mean, obviously it sucks to lose a house. You

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lose pictures. I can't even imagine. It is devastating. But

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yes, many of them, of the celebrities, probably either have homes somewhere

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else or they can afford to pay for another home. They

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lose all their, their memories. They lose all of, you

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know, any kind of memorabilia that they have, any type of

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ancestry things that they have, which is awful for

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anybody. It doesn't matter how rich you are, how poor you are. It's awful. But

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yes, they could probably move and buy another house. And although

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it affect their income, they'd still be able to have a house. It's

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the people who can't afford to move. That's where it becomes really devastating. They

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have no homes. They can't afford, they have to move out of the

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state, because it's really expensive to live, and they have no place to go. Nobody's

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gonna buy their house. Why would you buy in a place that is so

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vulnerable to wildfires that took out entire neighborhoods? Not

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just one, entire neighborhoods. Not to mention all the air

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quality hazards that are out there for people for years

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to come. It is brutal the way people continue to

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get treated Yet we listen to politicians who

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deny climate change, who want to drill baby drill, and

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these things continue to happen. It's awful. Now what can we do

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about it? The first thing is put decision makers in place that

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agree that climate change is happening and we need to do something about it, like three decades

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ago. That's what we need to do. Put people into place who

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are capable of understanding the complexities of climate change and

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what need to happen. It's really it. That's all you have to do is

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use your vote. Climate change, back when Obama

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was president, the Navy said that climate change was the biggest

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threat to the United States, to the world, to the planet. Yet

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all of a sudden we've forgotten that. No, no, they're just blowing up

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promotion. It wasn't even a big topic in the US presidential

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election. It won't be a big topic in

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the next election for Canada, other than taking the carbon tax away,

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which is a measure to combat climate change. It's

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unreal. Yet we continue to just fall into these traps.

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This disaster will happen. We'll follow it for a few months. We'll

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forget about it, just like we did to Hawaii. And then we'll continue with

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our way. And then we'll continue to vote people in who don't do anything about

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climate change when they're in power. We do it to ourselves. And

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I'm frustrated. I'm so sick of it. We just continue to do it to

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ourselves. And until we realize that climate

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change is affecting all aspects of our life, including the economy, we're

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going to run out of money. We can't always pay for these natural disasters. $250 billion.

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We have to, we have to change something. Things have to change. And

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if we keep ignoring it, we're going to keep having these happen. And there's going to

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be areas in the United States, as well as around the world where we

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cannot live because it's too unsafe for people to

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live. And that's going to continue that, that area is going to continue to

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grow. And we're going to continue to have problems as

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people are trying to figure out where they can live and where they can't. So it's

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a, it's a, an awakener, although we've, we've had these problems before,

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but people need to like, as people are, are, you

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know, donating money to the red cross and donating money to people to

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help them survive, maybe they should realize like, maybe I should donate

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to campaigns of politicians who are actually going to do something about climate change.

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Cause those are the ones we need. The scientists are all, they're pretty much on board.

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They're like climate change is happening, but the decision makers refuse to do

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anything about it or do anything about fast enough. Like there's even criticism with

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the Biden administration that they're not working fast enough, including and

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with the Trudeau government as well. We just aren't

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doing it fast enough because we don't want to pay for it, but we're going to

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have to pay for it in one way or another. And it could be with our homes. It could be

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with our lives. It could be with just our

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countries and it's not discriminating against any country. It's

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going after everything. So it's a rude awakening. I hate to start off the week like

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this, but something I thought I had to cover. I feel so, so bad

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for the people who are, who have been devastated by these fires. And

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I'll put links now where people can donate to help people out

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in these fires as they continue to burn. And hopefully people can

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recover and find a way to live on, but it's going to forever change

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them. That's it for today's episode. If you have any comments or anywhere that people

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can donate, please let me know. You can hit me up on Instagram at

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how to protect the ocean. You can also and I hope everyone is safe out

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there, especially our fans and our audience in the L.A. region.

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And I just I hope that everybody is just able

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to recover and get to a safe spot. Thank you very much for listening to this episode of

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the How to Protect the Ocean podcast. I'm your host, Angelo, and have a good day. I'll