Nov. 5, 2024

Shannon's Resilient Journey: Healing and Empowerment After a Brain Injury

Shannon's Resilient Journey: Healing and Empowerment After a Brain Injury

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Please tune in as Shannon Freedman shares her harrowing journey of surviving a horrible car crash that landed her in a coma.  Shannon details her experience of still being able to hear while in a coma what people were saying and shares what she was able to remember, despite being in a debilitating state. Shannon ended up losing a 1/4 of her brain due to the injury from the car accident. However, do you think Shannon let this stop her from living her life and going after her goals and aspirations? ABSOLUTELY NOT!!

Because of her experiences from the horrific accident, she became a life coach so that she could help others believe in themselves. 

Chapters

00:02 - Overcoming Adversity

07:56 - Positive Self-Talk and Recovery Progress

15:59 - Educational Background and Coaching Journey

23:38 - Emotional Healing Through Coaching and Meditation

30:07 - Embracing Self-Love and Empathy

38:56 - Finding Inspiration and Overcoming Adversity

Transcript
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Hello everyone and welcome to this episode of On the Spectrum with Sonia, a podcast where we discuss autism spectrum, mental health and anybody who's overcome any adversity and can leave us feeling inspired and more connected and filled with hope, inspiration, courage, love and connection, particularly in a world we live in, where it is constantly trying to leave us feeling disconnected.

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We are here to help people feel connected With us.

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Today we have Shannon.

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Shannon is a friend of mine whom I met through the Say it Out Loud group, through Vasavi Kumar, and she is a coach and lives out in California and has overcome a fair share of great adversity but also leaves us feeling inspired every time.

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So, shannon Freeman, please welcome her to today's show.

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Welcome Shannon.

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Awesome.

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Thank you so much, Sonia.

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I'm so happy to be here.

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Thank you, we're happy to have you on here.

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So, shannon, tell us a little bit about you.

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What is something that you would love the audience to learn about?

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with you.

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I just want to tell everybody that I am a certified life coach, which is amazing, you know, being everything I've gone through at this point in time.

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You know my whole focus and mission as a coach is to help people overcome an injury, whether it be physical or emotional, and turn around any negative feelings, thoughts or beliefs caused by the injury and transform it into positive energy that helps to motivate and inspire a person to become who they want to be.

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You know, never being held back but being improved and brought forward into the life that they want to create.

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That is so inspiring and so amazing.

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So, shannon, why don't you give us a little bit of a backstory what led you to becoming a life coach?

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Little bit of a backstory, what led you to becoming a life coach, and you know what makes you so passionate about helping others be able to turn their life around, from whatever they may be going through.

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Absolutely.

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You know I had my fair share.

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I had the traumatic brain injury actually in December of 2001.

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What's interesting here about that is that I was just driving to work on the slow lane on the freeway heading northbound.

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The car in front of me slammed their brakes all of a sudden.

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So I slammed my brakes and I swerved into the shoulder, you know, to miss them.

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Of course my right tire caught the ice plants there.

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I got sucked into the ice plants off the side of the freeway and my left tire popped.

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And when you're trying to break in the ice plants, that doesn't work very well, not losing left tire, car started to flip.

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So I'm flying forward in my car, car's flipping, I submarine out of my seatbelt and then my front door opened suddenly, which caused me to fly out of the vehicle out the drive-side window and I landed 20 feet past my car onto the shoulder of the freeway and at that point I had completely blacked out.

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You know, lucky for me, there was a fire truck not too far behind me.

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I remember them trying to pick me up because I came to then and I was swatting at them with my right arm never moved, my left, it turns out it was broken.

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But I was swatting at him and I met these guys later on to thank them, you know, for saving my life.

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And he told me, while I was swatting at him, you know, that he had put his hands under my head, put me on the gurney and his fingers fell through my skull and he touched my brains.

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So at that point in time they took me off to the hospital.

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You know, I was in a coma for two weeks and three days after having brain surgery and at that point, after I woke up, it was just an amazing moment to be able to talk again and be able to tell people hey, I'm alive, I'm here, and I went through a lot of just recovering, you know by me a point to go forward.

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You, a lot of just recovering, you know by me a point to go forward, you know, through that recovery, you know, I got to actually go back to college, only missing one semester.

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So I missed fall of 02, went back.

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Sorry, I missed spring of 02.

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I went back fall of 02.

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And I graduated May of 03 with my bachelor's degree.

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Wow.

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So tell us what was your experience like.

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So the car suddenly slammed the brakes.

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You slammed the brakes, but then your car toppled.

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I mean, what was it like for you at the moment?

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Do you like what was going on in your head that you could remember at that time?

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Oh yeah, no, it's hard to forget.

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I mean, really, when anyone goes through a traumatic injury, it's kind of glued in your mind, you know.

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But it's amazing.

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I was, you know, in shock, of course.

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I'm hitting the brakes, trying to steady the car and then all of a sudden, you know, the car starts to spin around and around.

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You know, when I flew out, I actually remember flying out of the vehicle and watching the horizon pass before my eyes as I'm flying through the air.

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I was just thinking, oh no, what am I going to do?

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I was just completely just amazed and scared, of course, and then slamming into the ground, of course very, very painful, you know, and having these guys in front of me, you know, trying to work on me, and I thought they were hurting me.

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Literally.

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I told him, I met him and he was like well, we didn't try to look.

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Of course, you saved my life, thank you.

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It's amazing, just like having to deal with that.

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And I was in the coma.

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You know, I actually reviewed that in my mind a lot and when I came out of it, you know, all I could think of was like, okay, this is what happened, but it's not the end.

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You know, I must go forward.

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You know I was very close to completing my bachelor's degree, so I use that as motivation for myself to say, okay, you are one semester away, you're going to go back and finish.

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So I began telling myself in my mind, you are going to go back and you're going to finish this.

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It's going to happen.

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So, regardless of everyone saying, oh, you should slow down, you know you've been through this traumatic brain injury and I'm like, yes, no, I am going back.

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You know I made a plan I took only two classes in fall and two classes in spring, instead of a full four classes.

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So I, you know, moderated it enough to make sure I was, you know, productive and I did succeed.

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You know, that's the best thing about, you know, recovery is that you moderate it in a way that you will succeed.

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You know, set yourself up for success.

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So I wanted to ask you know you had said that you had suffered the traumatic brain injury In what ways did the traumatic brain injury affect you?

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Because I know that brain injury affects everybody differently and everyone experiences it differently.

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So what was that experience for you in how you were able to live your life before and after brain injury?

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Absolutely.

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Anyway, it's amazing because the extent of the brain injury you know, because I actually had a hematoma.

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My brain was actually bleeding and during the brain surgery they had to go in and remove a fourth of my brain.

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So in removing that, of course the doctors and nurses were assuming that I wouldn't be functioning as well and at this point in time, when people are hearing that in the coma too, it's very negative.

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It fills your mind through negative thoughts.

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Lucky for me, I had some professors come in and see me in my coma and were speaking very positively to me and I feel like that made a huge difference in my motivational level.

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People speaking to me positively while in my coma and were speaking very positively to me and I feel like that made a huge difference in my motivational level.

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People speaking to me positively while in my coma.

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It helps me come out with a feeling of motivation, like, yes, I'm going to go back.

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My professors offered me extra credit if I came out of my coma, so that was motivating.

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It was having the motivational thoughts in the beginning so important and having that determination and say, okay, this is my goal, setting a plan, and I feel like that really helped me to overcome, you know, the issues of my functioning and I had to go through physical therapy, I had to go through speech therapy, you know, and going through that it was more like okay, focus on what you need to do, on on what you want to say, on walking, and just being consistent with all those therapies, functioning through them in a way like okay, I didn't do it perfect the first time, but I'll do better every single time, every single time, keeping that positive influence in my mind, that self-talk, so important to be positive when you're going through that and I progressed and was able to get through it successfully.

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So I really feel like, you know, talking to myself positively, saying okay, you know, that's okay, it wasn't perfect, you'll do better next time.

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You know you can do better next time.

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Just encouraging myself.

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The self-talk, I think, made a huge difference to start with so the corner of the brain that you that got removed now, was that affecting your walking, your talking?

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Was that affecting just any kind of like daily living functions?

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at first, Well, yes, it was the right temporal lobe in my brain.

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So my short-term memory was severely affected.

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So I noticed you.

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You know memory was not working so well.

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You know I'd forget things you know quite quickly unless I reviewed them in my mind consistently, just like after something would happen or something we'd said.

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I'd review it in my mind, say it again and again.

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Through repetition I was able to transfer things from short-term memory to long-term memory and that made a huge difference.

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So I went back to school.

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I took notes, of course, for every class I was in and then reread those notes.

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I feel like that made a huge difference for me, making sure that to take those notes on paper and reread them consistently at least three or four times to really get that information in my mind.

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And how do you feel like your short-term memory has improved over the years?

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Oh, I continue with the tools to build up my mind, you know, because the short-term memory being so affected, and of course you know I had to do, you know, physical therapy and speech therapy, but lucky for me, I was talking just fine, I was walking just fine, but I had to.

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You know, the muscles had to come back because they had atrophied, some from being in a coma.

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of course, you know, and that actually didn't take too long because I remained consistent in doing it and the short-term memory I just improved more and more by reading books that's a huge thing and taking notes, like I mentioned before, but reading books I really kind of helped, I think, helped my brain just to refocus again on what I'm doing and through refocusing my thoughts it helped to increase my search and memory in huge ways.

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And you talked about.

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When you were in the coma, you were still able to hear what was being said to you.

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You were able to understand where, like what people were saying, what they were saying about you, what they were directing to you.

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So tell us a little bit about that, if you can reflect a little bit on what that was like.

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Also, you were in that state to hear all that.

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Absolutely.

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I always tell people, you know, if you meet someone in a coma, be nice to them.

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They can hear you.

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Yeah, cause it's.

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It is true.

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I remember people talking to me negatively and I was like screaming in my body no, that's not going to happen to me.

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And that was very frustrating and that was a deterrent really.

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It was like making me feel like, oh, okay, well, what's happening here?

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You know, I felt that negativity from them saying, oh, she's not going to make it or she's going to be a vegetable when she comes out, and those kinds of words were not helpful in my recovery.

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You know, when I woke up, I would think of those again and it would make me angry, you know, and sad the same token.

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So I'm like no, this is something I would like to educate people on.

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You know, if you're a nurse or a doctor, don't say negative things in front of your patients that are in a comatose state.

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They can hear you by saying more positive things, you know, like they're healing, they're doing better, they're going to get through this.

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You know things of that nature.

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It's going to help.

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Those thoughts are going to help their body heal.

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You know, with their brain, I are going to help their body heal, you know, with their brain.

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I feel like that.

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I feel like that makes a huge difference.

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You know, it's amazing One of the nurses that went with my coma had just come back from New York and she was telling us all stories you know all of their nurses.

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But I was listening, of course, telling us stories about being in New York and standing at the base of the statue of Liberty, and so I had this picture in my mind and what she was explaining.

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I'm standing at the base of the Statue of Liberty and I had never been in New York, but when I woke up I remembered it like it was my memory and it's very interesting.

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I actually asked my mom I'm like I'm so sad I don't remember New York because I couldn't remember being there, but I had these pictures in my mind.

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That's when she told me this nurse was telling them all stories about her trip to New York and I was like wow, really, you know, in reflection now about that particular story, if that just her painting a picture of her, her time in New York, met such a huge impact on my memory, why couldn't we tell our patients in hospitals you know you were healing so well you know you're going to be much more improved after this.

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You know you are healing so well you know you're going to be much more improved after this.

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You know things like that to put these kind of pictures in their mind so that they feel it when they wake up.

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And it seems like you got a mixed bag when you were in the coma, because you had professors coming and visiting you and giving you words of encouragement and saying, hey, you're going to make it, and when you get out, you know you get this extra credit right, like going to what you were saying earlier.

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But then you have other people and I'm taking it people in the medical profession who are saying you're going to just be a vegetable relegated, you know.

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So it's like you got like kind of like a tale of two cities type of thing oh yes, I have family members too and friends just assuming the worst, and that was like extremely frustrating because I'm in my body yelling and screaming no I'm fine in here, you know I'm gonna get out of here, kind of a thing, but no one can hear me.

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Of course I'm fully trached feeding tube, you know, of course, but I did not enjoy that and even now, looking back, I feel that same frustration I had in my body, in my coma, hearing those words educate the medical profession, family and friends that you know, speak positively to your loved ones in a comatose state.

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You know cause that will make all the difference?

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Cause I really feel like the professors that came in that were so positive, you know, made a huge difference in my recovery and I appreciated that.

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Sure.

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So you said that after so you, you get out of the coma, you get out of the hospital, you go to physical therapy, you go to speech therapy.

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And so in physical therapy it was you were learning to kind of walk again, correct, yes?

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And then with speech therapy, it was more about focusing on what you were going to say.

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Did you have to relearn how to speak some words?

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on what you were going to say.

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Did you have to relearn how to speak some words?

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I was very fortunate, I really didn't have to relearn any words.

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It was just more of like the memory, like what is the word I want to say?

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It's on the tip of my brain.

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I feel like I'm going through a file cabinet in my brain trying to find the word I want to say.

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You know, and the more I talk over the years, that's gotten better.

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You know, it's interesting.

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When I first got my trach capped in the hospital, the nurse asked me you know, can I read what's on the wall?

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And I looked at it and I said, you know, this is January 2nd 2002.

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And I read her name on the wall and everything and she was like, wow, you can read that.

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And I said, well, yeah, can't you?

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I had just woken up.

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So I was feeling sarcastic like my old self and just being me, you know.

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So it wasn't until they got more extensive into the therapies that I started noticing that slowdown of.

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Okay, what's the word I want to say?

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You know, reading, I was doing just fine at reading.

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It wasn't very fast, but I was reading doing just fine in reading.

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It wasn't very fast but I was reading, so very fortunate in that.

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And the more I did it, the better I got.

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Same thing with speaking, the more I got to speak again the more I remember the words I wanted to say much quicker, so that repetition made a huge difference.

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And how often were you going to physical therapy, to speech therapy.

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Well, they actually had kept me in the hospital because I had been through brain surgery and I had the coma, of course.

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So they kept me in there and by April 2002, they literally kicked me out.

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They're like there's no reason for you to be here.

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You got to go and I said, no problem, I'm ready.

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You know, and that was actually very uplifting to me.

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That was like the most positive words I had heard.

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Like you're, you're too good to be here.

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I'm like really, yes, and that motivation really kind of brought me forward to I can go back to school, I can finish this, you know I can do it.

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So that's positive self-talk that I would tell myself, just got greater through little accomplishments like that, like going through therapy and graduating from it.

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So what did you go to college?

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To study.

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I actually majored in physical sorry, majored in public relations.

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So I graduated.

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It's a.

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What was it called?

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It's a bachelor's of arts in liberal arts and communication, with emphasis in public relations okay, and did you work in that field for a bit too?

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you know I did not.

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Unfortunately I didn't have all the tools I have now as a coach.

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After I graduated, I had a lot of negative talk from family members, you know, telling me things like oh well, just if, just if you get your bachelor's degree, you can never use it because of your brain injury.

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So words like that really stung and I remember exactly who said that and I'm like yeah, no, I look back going.

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I understand you're a family member, but for you to say that really just hindered me.

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I had no plan past having getting the bachelor's degree.

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I was like can you get a bachelor's degree?

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Well, I can't use it.

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If it was in my mind, you know, rather than being implanted with the thought of, okay, great, what would you like to do with this, you know, letting me, allowing me to like, look beyond the bachelor's degree.

00:18:51.251 --> 00:18:54.553
You know I really wasn't encouraged to look beyond it.

00:18:54.553 --> 00:18:57.035
You know, even I was not encouraged to go back.

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My family.

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They told me oh, you know, it's going to be too hard for you and I was like I'm going back.

00:19:01.217 --> 00:19:05.240
So I already pre set myself up for that encouragement to go back.

00:19:05.240 --> 00:19:08.642
And so while I was in the degree, I got told the negativity.

00:19:08.642 --> 00:19:15.605
You know I was like oh so it just hindered me from even establishing a plan of what I could do after the bachelor's degree.

00:19:15.605 --> 00:19:16.586
Bachelor's- degree.

00:19:16.605 --> 00:19:18.007
So I did not work in that field.

00:19:18.007 --> 00:19:25.275
I got to a point where I was like, well, I have a bachelor's degree, what am I going to do with it?

00:19:25.275 --> 00:19:27.324
So a year later I had a couple of friends who told me that you know, I could teach.

00:19:27.324 --> 00:19:27.705
They were teachers.

00:19:27.705 --> 00:19:30.771
They're like you can take the um, yeah, what is that?

00:19:30.771 --> 00:19:35.035
The CBEST exam and become a substitute teacher because you have a bachelor's degree.

00:19:35.035 --> 00:19:36.817
So I was like, you know what?

00:19:36.817 --> 00:19:39.118
Okay, okay, I'll do it, I want to use a bachelor's degree.

00:19:39.118 --> 00:19:44.423
So I actually went, took the c-best, I did pass, and was it gosh?

00:19:44.423 --> 00:19:48.846
In 03 it was a fall of 03 I took the test.

00:19:48.846 --> 00:19:56.541
So by spring of 04 I was a substitute teaching, you know which I did and enjoy for sure.

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And I got to the point where I was like, well, I feel bad to be teaching and not having a degree in that and knowing what I'm doing.

00:20:02.869 --> 00:20:04.236
So I actually went back to school.

00:20:04.236 --> 00:20:06.457
I went to Cal State San Marcos at that point.

00:20:06.457 --> 00:20:14.498
So I graduated from San Diego State University and I went to Cal State San Marcos to get my education degree, and that was in 08, when I graduated from that.

00:20:14.498 --> 00:20:17.198
So I got a second degree afterwards.

00:20:17.198 --> 00:20:28.448
So I got a second degree afterwards so I can be well versed in how to teach and to substitute teaching from there.

00:20:28.468 --> 00:20:29.049
I think that helped as well.

00:20:29.049 --> 00:20:43.205
Like putting myself back into school was a huge support in my recovery because it helped my brain to start functioning again, helped my brain to start thinking properly the way I wanted it to again, by putting myself in a situation of learning, you know, and being able to go in that schedule like, okay, I've got to learn this by this date.

00:20:43.205 --> 00:20:48.230
You know, let's read this, let's do this, and it just really helped the functioning patterns of my brain.

00:20:48.230 --> 00:20:56.215
I feel like that was a huge, just therapy that people don't are not often recommended after brain injury and that was a definite big turning point for me.

00:20:56.215 --> 00:21:08.472
So I'd recommend that to anybody who has experienced a brain injury to put yourself through school or a program that you're passionate about, you know to help improve the functioning of your brain.

00:21:10.615 --> 00:21:11.657
So you went back to school.

00:21:11.657 --> 00:21:16.986
You got a degree in education.

00:21:16.986 --> 00:21:18.492
You graduated in 08.

00:21:18.492 --> 00:21:22.663
Did you actually go ahead and become a teacher then afterwards?

00:21:23.549 --> 00:21:26.477
Yeah, that was my second bachelor's degree, right In 08.

00:21:26.477 --> 00:21:27.941
First it was 03, then 08.

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And I was subject teaching for a while, but I didn't want to do it full time.

00:21:32.499 --> 00:21:37.703
I was like, well, it's a lot of work, you know, there's a lot that goes into it.

00:21:37.703 --> 00:21:39.730
I had a great time substitute teaching.

00:21:39.730 --> 00:21:42.598
It was awesome being with the kids and helping them out.

00:21:42.598 --> 00:21:45.031
You know, as a substitute teacher, you don't get a lot of respect.

00:21:45.031 --> 00:21:46.777
So I made a plan.

00:21:46.777 --> 00:21:56.317
I had a little bag, you know, decorated with, like what happens, a Disneyland bag, and so I had put items in it and I was giving away super tickets to the kids, you know, which is very fun.

00:21:56.317 --> 00:21:57.540
I was like, you know, help each other out.

00:21:57.540 --> 00:22:31.338
No-transcript, my injury, you know as motivation and encouragement to help others.

00:22:31.338 --> 00:22:34.124
And that's when I found coaching.

00:22:36.951 --> 00:22:43.491
Yes, and you know it's so beautiful that you're using what you've been through as a way to go and give back.

00:22:43.491 --> 00:23:03.522
You know, and it seems like you know you in many ways, you've always had a passion to give back to others in some way, shape or form right, whether it be even when you were working as a substitute teacher, giving back to the students in ways right, so if they behave, they got that super ticket right like they help each other out, right, like the whole idea of you know.

00:23:03.522 --> 00:23:07.817
You know using your pain and turning it into a message.

00:23:07.817 --> 00:23:11.723
So tell me a little bit about now.

00:23:11.723 --> 00:23:12.392
You know.

00:23:12.392 --> 00:23:21.042
So you started thinking about, okay, ways that you could give back and you thought about coach.

00:23:21.042 --> 00:23:24.119
This is where you started to think of coaching.

00:23:24.119 --> 00:23:27.611
How did coaching come across to you Like?

00:23:27.611 --> 00:23:29.136
How did you get introduced to it?

00:23:29.136 --> 00:23:30.593
Like, what?

00:23:30.593 --> 00:23:33.800
What were, like, the steps that led you there?

00:23:33.840 --> 00:23:37.655
if you will, yeah, no thanks for asking, Cause it's an interesting journey.

00:23:38.250 --> 00:24:04.394
You know, it took me 20 years to get to that point because, I wasn't equipped with the tools and I don't want anybody to have to wait that long in the recovery process from their injury your injury it turns into making bad decisions.

00:24:04.413 --> 00:24:06.179
You know, I got some bad relationships that unfortunately put me the wrong direction.

00:24:06.179 --> 00:24:11.398
You know, it wasn't until I got out of the bad marriage that I was in that I found coaching.

00:24:11.398 --> 00:24:18.186
I was doing some self-growth work, you know, on Mindvalley actually, and that's when I found out about the certified coaching program.

00:24:18.186 --> 00:24:19.692
I was like, well, let's get involved in that.

00:24:19.692 --> 00:24:25.358
And as I was going through it and learning these tools that I was not aware of before, it helped me so much.

00:24:25.358 --> 00:24:38.519
I just thought to myself, wow, I could help other people who have gone through a physical or emotional injury in such a way to help them recover and just overcome that challenge so much faster than I ever did.

00:24:38.519 --> 00:24:49.421
Cause it came to a point where I was like I can't let anybody go wait 20 years to feel like themselves again, to be passionate about what they want to do and who they want to be.

00:24:50.590 --> 00:24:51.715
So I wanted to do that.

00:24:51.715 --> 00:24:56.778
So, like when you were in mind Valley, tell me a little bit about like.

00:24:56.778 --> 00:25:03.099
What was that spark that was like, oh my goodness, like I'm finding my path now.

00:25:03.099 --> 00:25:04.554
Like what.

00:25:04.554 --> 00:25:05.075
Like.

00:25:05.075 --> 00:25:09.957
What inspired you, what intrigued you, what motivated you.

00:25:11.667 --> 00:25:18.053
Oh goodness, I met a lot of wonderful coaches that were just so amazing and the different kinds of tools.

00:25:18.454 --> 00:25:21.893
Like you know, self-talk, you know talking about the power of that.

00:25:21.893 --> 00:25:27.214
That's when I realized that my self-talk actually encouraged me, when I hadn't really thought about it too much at the time.

00:25:27.214 --> 00:25:30.334
I just thought I was doing what I needed to do, you know.

00:25:30.334 --> 00:25:42.295
But that is a huge difference and learning how to process your emotions, and that was a huge one, because I spent a lot of time just pressing it all back, not feeling the emotions, not letting it process through me.

00:25:42.295 --> 00:26:12.349
And when I finally did that, gosh, that was the end of 2023, when I finally allowed those emotions to come through, because I learned that in coaching and I cried like a baby my injury had just happened and it had been 22, almost 22 years at that point and I was like, wow, if I had done this sooner and gone through these emotions earlier, I wouldn't have just had all these suppressed emotions that, of course, led me to making bad decisions, you know, entering into bad relationships that were not meant for me, you know.

00:26:12.371 --> 00:26:40.957
So I realized the power from coaching of being able to process the emotions, feel your emotions and being aware of yourself in such a way that you can actually overcome any challenge, just starting there so when you were going through these emotions that you'd been repressing, um, like what, what was kind of like the catalyst for it to start coming up, like you know I know that you've gone through you've met a lot of coaches while you were at Mayan Valley.

00:26:40.957 --> 00:26:46.436
They were teaching you about, like, expressing emotions and feeling them, processing them.

00:26:46.436 --> 00:26:58.728
What exactly, would you say, was like the biggest thing that connected for you and allow these emotions to start resurfacing and allowing the waterworks to start for you.

00:26:59.914 --> 00:27:01.117
Yeah, no, it's interesting.

00:27:01.117 --> 00:27:10.548
I just began to learn about the importance of being present, you know, being aware of every moment, because I had gotten so used to suppressing everything.

00:27:10.548 --> 00:27:17.218
I was kind of zipped through my day, do things I had to do, and I really wasn't stopping to be present in anything I was doing.

00:27:17.218 --> 00:27:38.961
So, as I got the idea of being present and meditation, meditation my introduction was during coaching of doing that and that made a huge difference as well, to bring me present to the moment of what I was doing and be able to think about everything I was doing in such a way that, because I wasn't or wasn't suppressing anything else, I was just being, you know, the coach, learning how to coach properly.

00:27:39.643 --> 00:27:56.623
And that was amazing, you know, learning about meditation, learning about how to be present, and it's okay to feel the emotions you have, you know, because I'd always, you know, bought oh, you know, big girls don't cry and that's a bunch of baloney, you know really.

00:27:56.623 --> 00:28:15.446
You know, cause, when I, when I was young, of course, that was something I said to myself a lot Cause, again, I was not equipped, you know, with the tools and the knowledge of how, the power that you get from feeling your emotions and how it leads you down the path of being able to make the choices that are right for you, instead of listening to other people make choices for you.

00:28:15.446 --> 00:28:19.905
Just learning all these tools through the coaching really made a huge impact on me.

00:28:21.954 --> 00:28:38.307
Yeah, and it seems like there was a lot of self-learning that you discovered in this process of meditation, in this process of allowing yourself to be present, allowing emotions to surface and not feeling like you have to push them back.

00:28:38.307 --> 00:28:54.734
You know, it kind of reminds me right now of the movie Inside Out right, where they talk about the different emotions and they talk about how important each emotion is and what purpose it all serves, because all emotions serve a purpose, right?

00:28:54.734 --> 00:29:16.551
And and it just seems like to me, it seems like this is a really transformative moment for you to actually go ahead and feel things that you were taught to just push away oh, yes, no it was like a waking up moment.

00:29:16.852 --> 00:29:18.898
I felt like I was coming out of a coma all over again.

00:29:18.898 --> 00:29:31.007
You know, we had an event um last uh was in November of uh 2023, I think it was, yeah um where we had a coaching convention and we got to do meditations all together.

00:29:31.007 --> 00:29:32.538
We had a lot of powerful speakers.

00:29:32.538 --> 00:29:37.298
I thought speed kamar was one of the speakers there and she actually was promoting state out loud.

00:29:37.298 --> 00:29:55.497
And so, for the first time since my car accident and this is november 2023, my car accident was, oh one I stood up in front of all the coaches and mentioned I had a traumatic brain injury, you know, and I'm missing a fourth of my brain and I made a point not to tell anybody that for a long time because I didn't want to be judged.

00:29:57.061 --> 00:29:58.105
I say it out loud.

00:29:58.105 --> 00:30:02.759
I started crying right then and there too, because I didn't ever say it, I had suppressing that.

00:30:02.759 --> 00:30:07.057
That even happened to me, kind of just ignoring it, you know, for several years.

00:30:07.057 --> 00:30:22.349
You know, my actions showed that up until that point, you know, I was like wow, that was like a changing moment for me to say out loud this is what I'm going through, this is what happened to me, you know, and I didn't feel I didn't worry about being judged, I just felt freeing.

00:30:22.349 --> 00:30:24.577
I felt like I had left out the whole like weight off my shoulders.

00:30:25.119 --> 00:30:38.275
Just saying that to everybody and let everybody know yes, I am a brain injury survivor, I'm safe with my brain and I'm here to be a powerful, positive, impactful coach.

00:30:38.275 --> 00:30:57.903
Oh, wow, you know what you honestly make me want to tear up right now listening to that, because it's so moving and when you're able to just share what you've overcome and you're like here I am, and this is why I'm ready to be that person for others and this is what drives me to be that person for others, so they don't have to feel like they have nobody.

00:30:57.903 --> 00:31:00.799
It's just such a moving thing.

00:31:02.743 --> 00:31:03.164
Thank you.

00:31:03.164 --> 00:31:09.976
I appreciate that Because when it was happening, I was just like melting inside, but also empowered, because it was just amazing, feeling like wow.

00:31:09.976 --> 00:31:15.517
I said this to everybody and I'm not scared of being judged, you know.

00:31:15.517 --> 00:31:25.018
That's really a huge part for me, because when I went back to college I was judged by other students who I told that to, you know, and I got these looks, got these things that were said to me.

00:31:25.018 --> 00:31:30.981
That was very, very rude and at the time it just made me clam up and I was like, oh, I better not tell anybody.

00:31:31.843 --> 00:31:34.247
And I had a big mission to like, not show it.

00:31:34.247 --> 00:31:36.234
And you can't see the scars on my head Now.

00:31:36.234 --> 00:31:38.883
My hair grew back because I was bald for a while, you know.

00:31:38.883 --> 00:31:44.843
They shaved my head, my brain, like my work caps, everywhere I went trying to cover my scars on my throat too.

00:31:44.843 --> 00:31:50.554
I wore necklaces or scarves, anything to cover it up, to hide it, you know.

00:31:50.554 --> 00:31:52.981
And what I was doing outwardly was what I was doing inside of me too.

00:31:52.981 --> 00:31:55.532
You know, I think we all do that too.

00:31:55.532 --> 00:32:06.875
We translate what we're feeling inside to what we do outside, but not even realizing it, thinking that it's helping when really just banding something that needs to come out and be healed Sure.

00:32:07.875 --> 00:32:21.925
And it seems like for for you, just having those comments that were disparaging towards you kind of reinforced that idea that I better not come out, I'm not okay to share my story or share my truth.

00:32:21.925 --> 00:32:29.832
Until you were around an environment where people were like, no, do share your truth and do speak out loud.

00:32:29.832 --> 00:32:30.852
Do say it out loud.

00:32:30.852 --> 00:32:37.919
Right, like these are, you know, and I feel like there's so much power to saying things out loud, there's so much power to sharing your truth.

00:32:37.919 --> 00:32:49.196
And I can definitely empathize with you about the judgment, because I'm a female on the autism spectrum, high functioning, and, believe me, the judgments from people are relentless.

00:32:49.196 --> 00:32:59.394
But one thing I have noticed about the people who judge, people who don't know, and even a client agreed with me and I'll tell you this he is fabulous.

00:32:59.394 --> 00:33:06.087
He's a 16-year-old, smarter than a lot of even people in their 50s.

00:33:06.087 --> 00:33:18.852
Okay, he said to me one day in session Sonia, you know what the people who know least about a subject have the most to say about it, and he was so spot on.

00:33:18.852 --> 00:33:24.383
That was like a mic drop moment and he was right.

00:33:24.383 --> 00:33:27.648
And this is one thing I have noticed it's the people who judge right.

00:33:27.648 --> 00:33:30.560
So if you're a female, especially on the autism spectrum.

00:33:30.560 --> 00:33:32.503
Well, why don't you look a certain way?

00:33:32.503 --> 00:33:34.608
They don't look like you.

00:33:34.608 --> 00:33:34.749
Why?

00:33:34.749 --> 00:33:35.455
Why do you?

00:33:35.455 --> 00:33:36.618
Why do you look so good?

00:33:36.618 --> 00:33:38.103
Or how are you so smart?

00:33:38.103 --> 00:33:39.165
Or you know what I mean?

00:33:39.165 --> 00:33:53.257
It's just like things, those conditions that they attach, right For somebody on the who's high functioning on the spectrum, that, because they don't, they're not relegated, they're not, they're not like.

00:33:53.778 --> 00:33:57.698
You know the worst case scenario that everyone conjured in their mind that you should be like.

00:33:57.698 --> 00:34:02.814
If you say you're, you have it right, it's, it's that ignorance.

00:34:02.814 --> 00:34:07.507
It goes back to, once again, ignorance, not knowing anything but wanting to say the most about it.

00:34:07.507 --> 00:34:11.416
And it seems like in many ways, that also happened with you too.

00:34:11.416 --> 00:34:19.822
The people who are judging you for having a brain injury and having a quarter of your brain gone from having it, having surgery.

00:34:19.822 --> 00:34:30.496
It just seems like they you know they already they pictured that you should probably be something else or, you know, be a different way Exactly.

00:34:30.556 --> 00:34:37.760
I mean, I feel like people that are even educated on it somewhat in the hospital, they're already thinking too oh, you're going to be a vegetable, you're not going to be the same.

00:34:37.760 --> 00:34:43.059
You know they were saying things like that, just automatically assuming and that's when you can't assume anything.

00:34:43.059 --> 00:34:50.664
When it comes to any injury or any condition, you know everyone translates their condition or their injury in a different way.

00:34:50.664 --> 00:35:00.440
You know, when this girl at school I mean, we're all educated, you know people, we're getting our degrees and she looks at me after hearing and missing forth my brain and says, oh, does that mean you're retarded?

00:35:00.440 --> 00:35:03.862
And I looked at her and I stopped for a second.

00:35:03.862 --> 00:35:09.599
I was like, um, I guess that could happen, but that didn't happen to me, and kind of like trying to protect myself.

00:35:09.599 --> 00:35:14.586
The same token too, I stopped and go, wow, she just called me retarded, huh.

00:35:14.586 --> 00:35:17.818
So it made me just close up.

00:35:18.461 --> 00:35:21.773
I was like I don't want to be judged, I don't want to be talked about like that.

00:35:22.114 --> 00:35:27.266
You know, because I was already in fear of, you know, my ability to do things right at that point.

00:35:27.527 --> 00:35:43.782
So for someone to say like that, say something like that just really just caused me to like kind of clam up and make sure I don't say anything else and make sure I just focus on what I'm doing, make sure I get that degree and recover, because I, by getting the degree, it helped me recover so much with my brain functioning.

00:35:43.782 --> 00:35:48.300
It's amazing how much the brain functioning came back by putting myself through those classes.

00:35:48.300 --> 00:35:59.476
So you're right, people who know the least have these opinions about it because that's just their view on it, without any education behind it.

00:35:59.476 --> 00:36:11.356
And it's unfortunate, because we all look at each other like okay, you know, your experience is different than mine, let's talk, let's exchange notes, you know, let's say what can I learn from you, what can you learn from me?

00:36:11.356 --> 00:36:23.619
All like that, we'd all be much more amazing people in this world because we can learn so much from one another through our different experiences and we can gain so much by listening and talking to one another.

00:36:23.619 --> 00:36:26.365
Right, it can help promote that.

00:36:26.365 --> 00:36:27.108
That's what I like to do.

00:36:27.875 --> 00:36:53.396
But you know, I think a lot of times people get so caught up in their own head, their own way of thinking, you know, and this is the problem that you see, you know, especially in today's culture, today's day and age, where it's like you know I'm, this is how I think, this is how I feel, and you know what, if you don't agree with me, then you're a bad person, right?

00:36:53.396 --> 00:36:54.659
Or you know, this is end of, you know, end of story.

00:36:54.659 --> 00:36:57.965
You get blasted for whatever reason it's.

00:36:57.965 --> 00:37:02.684
You know, you see a lot of that now and it's like people forgot how to have civil conversations.

00:37:02.684 --> 00:37:05.777
People forgot how to exchange views that are different.

00:37:06.679 --> 00:37:17.027
People forgot how to listen importantly listen to one another oh yes, I agree, I know some people like older generation very fixed mindset.

00:37:17.027 --> 00:37:20.619
You know, this is how I think it's going to be, so that's how it's going to be, period.

00:37:20.619 --> 00:37:21.722
But it's like.

00:37:21.722 --> 00:37:28.847
No, there's so much more to it, there's different perspectives, there's other things to see about just one situation you know.

00:37:28.887 --> 00:37:32.096
That's why I like my coaching platform I I have built for myself.

00:37:32.096 --> 00:37:34.585
It's about limitless possibilities.

00:37:34.585 --> 00:37:36.289
You know endless potential.

00:37:36.289 --> 00:37:42.170
You know that we could have in our lives, no matter the injury you know or this condition that we have.

00:37:42.170 --> 00:37:45.505
You know we have so much to offer ourselves in the world.

00:37:45.505 --> 00:37:56.760
It's a matter of looking at it from a different perspective, you know, to see our limitless potential and our endless possibilities available to us, absolutely, I got to say too, having the eternal love.

00:37:56.760 --> 00:37:58.980
They have figure eight, friedman coaching.

00:37:58.980 --> 00:38:06.706
That eight on its side is the infinity symbol, and I chose that because I want to promote eternal love for ourselves and for each other.

00:38:07.496 --> 00:38:22.204
You know, that's something I had lost early on was the love for myself, because I started judging myself like people were judging me, and that was not a place I should have been, but I was not equipped with the tools to understand that I could still love myself through it all.

00:38:22.204 --> 00:38:33.469
You know, and that was a huge turning point as well for me during my coaching certification, when I was learning about loving yourself no matter what I thought, learning about loving yourself no matter what I thought to myself wow, I can.

00:38:33.469 --> 00:38:35.338
And then I realized, oh, yes, I can.

00:38:35.338 --> 00:38:49.625
That's wonderful, you know, because it makes your decisions be more in tune with what you really want when you love yourself, versus listening to other people going well, they must know, because I have this going on and it's not true.

00:38:49.625 --> 00:38:55.306
You know you best, so love you and make decisions for yourself that promote that love for yourself.

00:38:56.795 --> 00:39:04.726
So what would you say would be your biggest three takeaways?

00:39:04.726 --> 00:39:18.570
You would want people to get from today, to get from today and for anyone who's listening, who needs that inspiration and encouragement what would you say to these people?

00:39:18.590 --> 00:39:21.898
Oh, definitely, the person that comes to mind is just never give up.

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You know, no matter what you've been through I mean I was told in my coma and afterwards, probably going to die, gonna be right, and I was like, no, you know I, just by being persistent with no, I'm gonna be fine, I'm gonna be me again.

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You know, it's out of presidency of encouraging myself.

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You know, if it's you, don't hear it in the outside of you, bring it inside of you, be your cheerleader, encourage yourself to never give up because it will get better.

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And that's definitely the first thing, because it never giving up because it will get better, and that's definitely the first thing, because never giving up is the most important thing to start with.

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And then from there you look at it from a different perspective and kind of say, okay, what can I do for myself to improve what I'm going through?

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Then you can start doing these steps to improve yourself and do things that help teach you more about what you're dealing with, Because being well-educated in what you are dealing with is going to help you to overcome it even more.

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You know, not just listening to professionals, which is very helpful, but getting other opinions from other professionals, doing the old your own side work as well, of learning about your condition or your injury and being able to say, okay, this is how it works, how can I make it work differently but better for me?

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You know the use are exploring those options, and that's a huge thing.

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And when you have that idea in your mind, like I'm not giving up, it motivates you, you know, to be able to find these other opinions and research it and to really work on overcoming it.

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You know, and definitely, oh gosh, the third thing always just choose what moves you.

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You know, I spent many, many years just listening to other people thinking to myself they must know better because they don't have this injury.

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And really I was avoiding listening to what was going on inside of me, what I really wanted, and I started self-medicating a lot, you know, unfortunately, and I was given a lot of medications, of course, from the doctors to help me with muscle spasms and things like that.

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And then I would take daily just to mask my emotions and at the time I didn't even realize I was doing it.

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I was just doing it because it was like it made sense.

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Well, they're giving me this.

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So I'm just going to take it, cause I feel better, but I wasn't being present anymore to what I was feeling, you know.

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So if I could help anybody to realize, hey, you know what being present in what you're doing and not allowing yourself to be over-medicated will make a huge difference in how you can turn around your injury and your condition and make your life into what you want it to be.

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Right, right.

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Well, those are all very, very helpful, useful, inspiring messages and tips.

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And, shannon, if people wanted to find you or get in touch with you, how can people do that?

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find you or get in touch with you.

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How can people do that?

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I'm on Instagram at figure8freedomencoaching and anyone can DM me from there and look at some of my posts, and I would love to talk to anybody who needs just help, inspiration, motivation or encouragement with an injury that they're dealing with.

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I said, whether it be physical or emotional, I'm here for you.

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I have experienced both and I have all these tools now that I want to just be able to share with everybody else and be just a positive impact in people's lives and help them to become who they want to be and overcome that injury and feel accomplished and successful, saying I made it through this Hallelujah, let's go forward.

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So I'd love to help.

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Well, anybody who is blessed to work with you, shannon, will be, I think, one of the luckiest people, because you have so much to offer, so much to give, so much inspiration and knowledge and wisdom that you can impart on others, and I want to thank you from the bottom of my heart for showing up on today's episode.

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Absolutely.

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Thank you for having me here.

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I'm just so happy to be here with you and be able to talk about my coaching and talk about my experience.

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You know, I really hope that it touched somebody in a way that they realize you have.

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You know, everything in front of you.

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You know, leave the past behind you and walk into the present moment and be the best person you can be, because it can be done, was it?

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Endless possibilities, limitless potential, eternal love for yourself, people around you, and you will go far.

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Well, thank you very, very much.

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