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Welcome to Ready Set Collaborate podcast with Rhonda Pearson, where we will dive deep into the world of networking, collaboration and partnership, unlocking the secrets to a successful team working within innovation.
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Whether you're an entrepreneur, a creative professional or just someone eager to understand the power of networking and collaboration, this podcast is your go-to resource.
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Join us as we explore the stories, strategies and insights from experts, entrepreneurs and thought leaders who have experienced the magic of networking and collaboration to achieve successful results.
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Tune in to Ready.
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Set Collaborate podcast on a journey towards achieving your goals with host Wanda Pearson.
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Welcome.
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Welcome to the Ready Set Collaborate podcast with Wanda Pearson.
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I am so excited to have this series of our podcast and I got an expert podcast with me, Lori Lyons.
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I've been on her podcast and she's on my podcast, so I'm excited to have you here.
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Say hi, lori, to the audience.
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Hi audience, I'm so happy to be here and, wanda, I can't wait.
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This is going to be fun.
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Yes, yes, definitely, definitely.
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I said I got to have Lori on my podcast.
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You had your podcast before, so I don't know God, just let me to do podcasts.
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And I said okay, so I just do what he tells me to do and it will be a year, lori, in November, wow.
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That's awesome, yeah, yeah, so it's different series here, but I'm definitely happy to have you on my podcast.
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Thank you, I'm happy to be here.
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Yes, let me talk a little bit about Lori.
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Lori Lyons is the founder of Igniting your Business, a premier website design agency specializing in crafting digital experiences that captivate and convert.
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Lori empowers businesses to elevate their online presence Through a personalized experience.
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Lori ensures clients enjoy a seamless and effective digital journey.
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Lori is the host of the popular Encore Entrepreneur podcast, where she and her guests translate the complicated side of marketing speak into simple, everyday language for her audience.
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Once again, lori, thank you so much for being on my podcast.
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I feel honored to have an expert podcaster.
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Thank you, yes, so tell us a little bit about you.
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Yeah, I have a long journey and it's a varied journey, but all roads lead to one, and I started as a school teacher and then eventually loved teaching and went to work for a marketing company and that's where I got my start and all the marketing and learning, all the graphics and all the stuff that go into website design and marketing and having a marketing agency.
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And then in 2010, I went to work for a digital marketing company and that's really where I got my start.
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It all came together with the marketing strategy through an online presence is at the website company.
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And when I tell you, wanda, I knew nothing about website stuff when I started.
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I really knew nothing.
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So he actually hired me to set appointments for him and I'm like I don't know if you need for me to set appointments, I need to know a little bit about what you do.
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So I just slowly started learning and YouTube was really starting to become a force for education at that point and a lot of it was technical stuff.
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So I had YouTube, I'd watch videos, I got WordPress for dummies to show me how to do stuff and ultimately I just I learned and I played and I six months later it was like where's this been all my life?
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Because it really brought everything together, all my experiences on my background together, and my agency took off.
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So it's have it.
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Look back.
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That is awesome.
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That is awesome, actually.
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You learn from your mistakes, and your mistakes help you to become better.
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Absolutely, absolutely Made many.
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Yes, yes, yes, definitely definitely.
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It's funny because my daughter our youngest daughter she's a graphic designer and she created my website as well as my son-in-law, so they met in college.
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I actually had them on my marketing series, so go back and look at my podcast with them there.
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I love to do that, so let me, how did you get into podcasting?
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My sweet spot.
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I love working with seasoned midlife entrepreneurs those of us who have because I didn't start my website design business until I was 54.
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So I and that's when I started, at 52, I started teaching myself.
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So we're teachable, and it doesn't mean that just because we're leaving a corporate job or we're leaving something, that we can't do what we want to do and I can't tell you that this was my dream business.
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But it became that.
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And but I really wanted to find a vehicle to elevate my expertise, to really put myself out there, and at the time when the pandemic was happening and stages weren't really available, you, you could speak online, but as I don't know if that's okay, but that's not what I wanted to do.
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I wanted to do something I control and I discovered podcasting.
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I actually went to a podcasting event and I was at going to this event to learn about podcasting for my clients as a way to market their business.
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Maybe this is an option for them.
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Let me learn a little more about it and I left so psyched about podcasts Forget my clients.
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I'm doing this, but it was a way to reach my target audience, which is midlife entrepreneurs.
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It was a way to elevate my expertise and I wanted to do it in a way that promoted other and bring on experts who had different expertise than I did.
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But yet if I gave away all my expertise to a guest, I was giving away my expert.
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So I wanted to do it.
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So now what I do is my format is I have a guest and then I teach to something or bringing that education background, I follow up with another episode that relates to something that we've talked about, so I'm able to elevate my expertise.
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That's awesome.
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That's awesome.
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I love it.
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I love how you did that and that actually is my question how you inspired to start your podcast.
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So you just told us that.
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So what is the biggest influences in the podcasting world for you?
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Watching.
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There's so many.
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There's so many influences in the world of podcasting.
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There's the big names I love Amy Porterfield.
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Ed Milet is my podcast crush.
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He could read the alphabet and I'd listen and just go oh, you're so good, he's so uplifting and I just love him.
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So they were like the inspiration and after leaving this event that I did that was in early 2019, I actually drove.
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It was down in Florida and I drove down there and I listened to podcasts the whole way back and I can't.
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I drove down there and I listened to podcasts the whole way back and I can't tell you that I'd ever listened to a podcast before that at all so.
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I binge listened to podcasts the whole way and I'm like this is really cool, this is really inspiring, and there were several people I met there, and one of the gentlemen that I met is named Adam Shibley.
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So kudos to Adam, and he's really been a big influence.
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Lately I've been listening to a lot of his podcasting too, because I'm working on making a shift in my own, which I know we'll talk about in a little bit, but I'm working on making a little bit of a shift in mine and he's been a real big influence for that.
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But I would say for anybody looking to go into podcasts, find podcasts you like, find podcasts that you don't like, what don't you like about them, what do you like about them, what bothers you, what's good to you, and that's where you start.
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That's awesome.
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That's awesome and that makes a lot of sense.
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As far as I wasn't a podcaster either, I never listened to podcasts so I'm like, okay, why am I doing this podcast again?
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But I was doing a lot of webinars and seminars so that actually helped me to be able to speak, and I like to talk anyway, so this is a good thing.
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Then it's like an education to help other people that are experts in fields to bring them on your podcast, so-.
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Absolutely.
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You make connections.
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Yeah, yeah, exactly Because my husband said why are you doing a podcast again?
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I said I think that's the next stepping stone, because I'm an author now, I'm an entrepreneur and I think podcasts I've been reading up on a lot of things.
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That's one of the things they say you should do.
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So that's why I'm doing a podcast.
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You don't get paid for it, but still you can share your knowledge and share other people's information, and that's why I call it collaboration.
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So that's how you collaborate.
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Ready set collaborate.
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I was trying to ready set what should I name it?
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And actually Diane Freeman, she actually helped me get to that point.
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Wanda, don't you like to collaborate?
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That's it, so I branded it.
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Ready set collaborate with Wanda Be months.
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But if I meet somebody that I really like and they have a really cool story or they have a really cool technique, it's like oh, be on my podcast, it's really cool.
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I've never heard that.
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Or it's a different take on something and I try.
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It's not a selling podcast, so people will offer a lead magnet, but they don't come on and they sell their services because they either have a marketing tool that they've used to grow their business and we talk about what that tool was and how they used it or mistakes that they made, or it's something that can support the midlife entrepreneur in their business, so they can talk about what they do, but they're not pitching their business, so to speak.
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Yeah, yeah, and that makes sense as far as you're doing that, because it's funny, because I retired from corporate and I said, ok, what am I going to do?
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And God has just been throwing me into different things that I said I would never do.
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This is one of the things I said I would never do.
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That he said, yes, you are.
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You're going to do that, so I just follow his lead.
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So tell us how you walk us through the process, creating the episode from start to finish.
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For me.
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I do mine a little bit differently and just a little bit of a backstory.
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One of the things that I found was very difficult was actually getting started.
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I was worried about being consistent.
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I was worried about blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
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So I was getting ready to get ready, to get ready, and did that for probably a good two to three years In fact.
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Funny story when I was coming up with the concept and where I wanted to go, I was watching Project Runway and at that season there was a woman on there who was in her 60s, had just left design school, named Nancy Ballpay Beringer, and I was watching her story and I'm like she's my encore entrepreneur, she's the person that I want to be my audience or that I want to have on the show, that I want to tell their story.
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And so I reached out to her and I'm thinking, you know, and Project Runway's over, and I'm thinking, hmm, it's going to take months to probably coordinate all this.
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Her assistant responded back and she said how about next Tuesday?
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And I'm like okay, you got it you can't lose her.
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You got it Right, so that was in July of 2020.
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Okay.
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I did not launch my podcast until April of 2022.
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In fact I did on April 1st, cause it was my own little private April fool's joke because it took me so long.
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But so I sat on this interview and it was an amazing interview, and that's because I really didn't know what to do with it.
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I didn't have a plan, I didn't figure out what was going to happen.
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So finally I figured out how to, because by then my podcast had changed and I wasn't doing the background and the telling of the story so much.
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I was doing more strategy, and so I couldn't figure out how to use it.
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So finally I figured out how to use it and started a series called Encore Stories Within the Podcast.
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And I was able to finally make her live.
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As of this recording, it was about 10 months ago, so the end of 2023,.
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I made her live and I emailed her and I said, okay, here's what happened.
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It's not immediately.
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You got to go through the editing process because people think, okay, it's going to be on tomorrow.
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No, it's not going to be on tomorrow.
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And for me, what it did was it told me that I didn't have a process and I didn't have a system to make this happen, and so one of I met somebody who said I do mine on my Facebook lives and.
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I'm like, but now that's interesting.
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So I said that I could be accountable to.
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So I set myself up to do my podcast interviews as a Facebook live in my private Facebook group once a week it was scheduled.
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It was announced I could hold myself accountable to that and my group held me accountable to that, and so that's what I did and I'm still doing to this day in my Facebook Live group when I can.
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90% of the time it's in my Facebook.
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So that starts my process, which is different.
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Then, once we do the interview, then it goes through, I send it to.
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I've got a team that will edit the audio for me, add the intro and outro, because I screw them up every single time.
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That is not my zone of genius.
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Me too.
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I had to get somebody expert that can do that.
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I can't figure out the scissors where to cut it.
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I know that's right.
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So then and now my VA is taking over, like she's doing all my social media posts and we've utilized a.
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I've got a system called PodSqueeze that I love.
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We were an early adapter of them and they're they're growing and they're doing all the transcripts and they're giving me all kinds of AI assets.
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That are amazing.
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So really, right now, all I'm doing, having to do which is awesome is just do the talking which I really enjoy.
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Yeah, just do the talking.
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And what is that called Pod squeeze?
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I got to learn about that Pod squeeze.
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Yes, and for those of you in the audience, I have an affiliate link.
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Just reach out.
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Okay, I'll be happy to give you that.
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But yeah, there are two gentlemen in Lisbon, portugal.
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They've been I guess this has been around for about a year and a half, two years now and they're really awesome.
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They're very responsive and have been very.
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It's been very cool.
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Apparently, I have one of the most podcasts on the system Because I went back and squeezed all of my episodes and caught them all up.
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That's good, so I'll be contacting you on this podcast.
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We learn from each other, right, we do.
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What do you use?
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And that's what I've been learning from my guests who are podcasters.
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It's teaching me different things.
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So I said, oh okay, that's cool, that's good, you're just never too old to learn is what I said.
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You're not, and the other thing is that you have to find something that speaks to the way you work.
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There are systems out there that I can go on and they make me cross, and now I do website design, so I am not untechnical.
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But if you get put me into a system that doesn't work with the way my brain works, I can't use it.
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I don't want it.
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I don't, even though it may be simple or cheap or whatever.
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Pod squeeze immediately was user friendly to me and talk to my brain, so that that was a big help when I was looking at some of the AI, because there's other stuff out there and they just didn't speak to me really well.
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So, this one did.
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Yeah, it's got to click with you to say, okay, I can work with this.
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So let me ask you something.
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So what advice would you give someone who is just starting out in podcasting?
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A couple of things.
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The first thing that I would do is make sure the name of your podcast and your tile design, which is both extremely critical to the success of your podcast.
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We want to be really cute and really oh.
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This means a lot to me, but if people don't know what your podcast is about, they won't listen.
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And if they can't see your podcast tile on a phone, they won't listen.
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So make sure your title is very clear with what you do.
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Mine is called the Encore Entrepreneur, but I added a tagline to it business strategies for midlife service providers and consultants so that it'd be more clear what my podcast is about.
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So that's one of the first things that I do is, don't go for the cutesy, unless you're going to be talking about wines or hobby stuff.
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But if you want to grow your business, be very clear on what you do and who you're serving with your podcast.
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And the second thing I do is make sure you have a good process, because I learned that in the hard way.
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And then the third thing is be consistent.
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If you can shoot for once a week, you're really going to grow your podcast and your business with that.
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If you can't do every other week, worse if you can't do once a month.
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But be very consistent with what you're doing.
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So those are the three things I'd really recommend.
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Yeah, and I agree with that because actually I went through education to this and one of the guys who he teaches he does masterclass and he told me the same thing you want to do it once a week, you want to do every other week, but you got to be consistent.
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So I do mine every week.
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That's why I'm constantly putting it in my box to say, okay, we're going to do this one this week, we're going to do this one this week.
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Just being consistent, it makes a big difference.
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Absolutely, and it keeps you in the flow.
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Yeah, flow of it, yeah.
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Yeah, yeah, it really does, it really does.
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So what strategies do you use to grow your listener base?
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I will let you know as soon as my strategy.
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You know, because of the way I started, because I started as to boost expertise and to give myself an avenue.
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I can't tell you that Download Growth was one of the top of mind for me.
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It has become more recently and it's become more, that I've got all of this body of work out there along with my guests, that I really want to start taking advantage of more, and so that's my goal for 2025 is, I'm slowly working toward finishing up the interviews that I have scheduled for this year, so I'm scheduled out to the end of the year and then for 2025, I'm retooling so that I'm focusing more on downloads, I'm focusing more on audience growth, I'm focusing more on use it to build my business, and so I'm really excited about that.
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It's a shift, but it's going to be a good shift because I can still use the episodes that I have.
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I'm not totally rebranding the podcast, I'm just retooling the format.
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And I was going to ask you what are your future goals for your podcast.
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So you just kind of gave us a little insight, a little hint yes, yes yes, yes, yes, Definitely definitely so.
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Do you have any upcoming projects or collaborations you're excited about?
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I mentioned Adam earlier Adam Shibley.
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I mentioned Adam earlier Adam Shively.
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I met Adam at this event that I went to in early 2019, and he has since become.
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He's a podcast coach, and so I've just today, as of this recording, started working with him on a limited basis.
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I'm hoping that he'll help me look at it from a different vision, see it with a different set of eyes, which, when we get too close to things, we don't tend to open our eyes very much.
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I'm looking forward to some wisdom and some collaboration with him, and I'm collaborating more with potential clients.
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That's one of my goals is to.
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I'm putting a lot of time into this and, quite frankly, it's a lot of money into this, and I'd like to start seeing some return on my podcast.
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So if you're out there thinking I'm going to start a podcast and get rich, it takes a while.
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It's a slow burn.
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It'm not getting paid, but it's giving me that, that connection as far as how we can help each other and educate each other.
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So my thing is educate, empower each other and collaborate.
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And then you actually you've been asking some of my questions.
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I was going to ask you anyway, oh yeah, so how has collaborating with other podcasts influenced and influence your podcast?
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You always learn.
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You always learn from other podcasters.
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Invariably, we get onto tools, we get onto how do you do this, what do you do with this?
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And for me, one of the biggest collaborations was when I was talking to the podcaster that did Facebook Lives, because she immediately and unknowingly solved a problem that I had which was how do I stay consistent, how do I hold myself accountable?
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Because that had been happening for a long time.
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Oh, let me, I'm going to work on it next Tuesday.
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Next Tuesday comes up and oh, I'd much rather go to Trader Joe's, so I would put off and put off.
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But finding a way to hold myself accountable came from a collaboration.
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And then this collaboration with Adam talking with other podcasters.
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you just you learn their tips and their techniques and what's working with them and and this you can teach this old dog new tricks it's so funny that you say yeah, and that's so true, because we get caught up into other stuff and but we learn so much from my guests yes, on there, and that's right, if I wanted the guys.
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He said.
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He said I and he's a podcaster, so he said I was wondering about something that the guests on my pod actually gave me.
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Oh okay, that's how you do it.
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So, yeah, so we learn from each other.