Today's podcast episode is a conversation I had on the Born or Made podcast with Michael Chernow back in 2019. We talk about if success boils down to having an innate ability or if hard work and perseverance is really the key to success. We also discuss the role adversity plays in one's life, the greatest path to happiness, and whether or not there is longevity in doing it for the money. This is a super fun conversation that will keep you on your toes! I hope you enjoy it!