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Hello, hello, everyone. You are listening to The Success Pilot,
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a place to discuss everything that you are not taught in school about how to
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be successful in the arts.
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I'm your host, Soda, and today we are going to talk about how improv can help
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us as creatives, how it could help us create that inertia to start a project, to give us confidence,
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how to make decisions and how to just come up with ideas.
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And to help me out with that, I have Linda, who is a confidence coach in addition
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to several other things. I'll let her explain.
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But Linda, how did you get into improv? What's your first experience with it?
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And how has it gotten you started?
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Yes, thank you, Soda. It's been more now than a decade.
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I was someone that was always really kind of shy and more the introverted side.
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And I still am an introvert at heart, really. But I always had these big dreams
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of like, I love writing, I love storytelling.
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So I always had this dream of having, you know, seeing myself on stage or having
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my, you know, my stories played out on TV or whatnot.
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But yeah, but I didn't take that route of, you know, just like writer's class or anything like that.
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And about, yeah, about 12 years ago, I was there, I was, I was really like working
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in my nine to five and, and, and completely different kind of,
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um, yeah, completely different place.
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And I told myself, okay, you know what? I, it's time that I take action.
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If I really want to do this because I, you know, I always had this burning sensation.
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I really want to have my stories out there, but I needed to take action.
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I needed to surround myself with.
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You know, different kind of people like, you know, writers. And because I was
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like in the more in the finance and the numbers world.
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Right. So I decided to, OK, maybe look for a writer's group or just to get started.
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And I just while I was researching, I saw like kind of an ad for improv class.
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So you want, you know, a trial, try out.
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And I was like, oh, OK, you know, it seemed interesting. But at the same time,
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I didn't really know much about it. So but I decided to just like go with an open mind, try it.
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And I was like, OK, you know what? That possibly can help me just like connect
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with people, maybe, you know, open myself up a little bit and start dabbling
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into a more creative life.
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And when I went to that class, I didn't have I didn't know what to expect.
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But what I found, it was like a world with people coming from all walks of life
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and doing Doing things that we used to do when we were children, right?
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Some fun games and a little bit silly for me at first because I was like,
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okay, why are these adults who are doing all those kind of silly games?
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But it was fun. And the place that I went to was very welcoming.
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And that's really how I, you know, I tried and I loved it.
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And I decided to come back again. And before I knew it, like I was on stage
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doing like shows and stuff like that. I really got kind of sucked back.
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Into it. But that was really my first experience.
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I didn't know much about it. I really wanted to start connecting to,
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you know, writing and storytelling.
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So I decided just to try to help me with that.
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I love how you have this kind of more technical background, but improv was kind
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of that gateway to help you be more creative.
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What are some of the ways that improv has helped you in your career.
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Oh, yes. For me, improv had like profound effect in my life.
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So there's a basic principle in improv that's it's called like yes and.
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So basically, you know, saying yes to an offer that's presented in front of
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you and kind of adding to up, you know, onto it.
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But I feel like it's much more than, you know, we use this in life as well.
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And it really is helpful in life because even like as creatives,
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like when we're, for instance, since I didn't know a lot about writing at first.
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I wrote for myself, but there's a lot of things that I didn't know.
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But you have to kind of start somewhere. You don't know necessarily where you're going all the time.
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And sometimes you're presented with obstacles or struggles.
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You have to kind of work with whatever is presented in front of you.
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And it kind of builds the muscle of being comfortable with the uncomfortable.
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And that's how I view things. And I apply this principle through life.
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Whether it's, you know, an entrepreneurship, like doing my business, we don't know.
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Sometimes like we try new stuff and we don't know if it's going to work,
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but we do know that, okay, if, even if it doesn't work, whatever is presented
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in front of us, we're going to work with it.
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Right. And we build that muscle and it's like, okay, we'll get back up and we'll, we will see what's next.
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So I say that, like, you know, even in our lives, like we, we,
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that's what life is all about, right?
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We, we sometimes we are presented with stuff that we're just like, we don't know.
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So I feel that it builds that muscle of being like comfortable with the uncomfortable.
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And, you know, once you have kind of proof of like, okay, well,
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even if I don't know what's next, I do know in the past that I dealt with it.
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So you kind of build more of a resistant, more resilience.
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And, and yeah, Yeah, I feel like that's I apply it to everything that I do.
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I completely agree. And it's very similar to when I first got into jujitsu.
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You're put in this situation because I'm a planner. I have to have everything planned out.
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And with both jujitsu and improv,
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you're put in these situations with at least one other person often.
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And you have to choose right there and then what you're going to do.
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You don't know ahead of time what is going to be presented to you,
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and you have to make that choice.
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And it's that mixture of having some sort of plan ahead of time,
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but also being willing to go. Yes. How has...
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That helped you with flexibility in regards to creativity and life in general?
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Yeah. And, you know, you say like, I completely can, I can relate with you,
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like being a planner, because even though like, you know, I come,
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like I said, I come from like a world finest numbers, like accounting and,
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you know, things are more kind of square.
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So sometimes having something like on plan is like, oh, okay.
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And I love to have like things know where I'm going.
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So So, yes, it did build up like kind of at first when I started improv,
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like I was like, oh, my God, like I need to know what's next.
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Like what's coming up next?
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What are people going to say? And that's the first thing like you have to let go.
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Right. To the expectation of like what someone might say to you when you kind
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of, you know, you're doing a scene at improv and you can't control,
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you can't know what's next.
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So for me, yes, it did help me be OK with OK, like I.
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Don't have to plan everything. And I can't because like that life happens.
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And also to be more open to opportunities that may present because sometimes
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it's not only obstacles, right? It can be opportunities.
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So if you have something planned and then, you know, someone say,
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Hey, would you like to go for this trip right now?
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And that could be an opportunity of a lifetime, but because you're just like,
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Oh no, I right now I'm focused on this.
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And so being more flexible and saying yes to to opportunities.
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So again, the yes. And it's just like, well, there's an opportunity right now.
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It might not be when I really wanted it to, you know, maybe I have other things,
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but let's go, let's say yes to this opportunity and see where that leads me.
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And sometimes it leads to the most beautiful things and, you know, beautiful encounters.
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Uh, there's a lot of things that I said yes to, you know, without having a plan
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and actually it led to, you know.
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Bigger opportunities or whatnot. So yeah, I feel like it's it really helped
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me be more flexible. Like you said, yeah.
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Yes. And it has also for me, again, I don't have as much experience in improv
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as you I just I'm a newbie.
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But for me, it helps me learn the importance of listening Listening to the person that you're with,
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if it's a collaborative improv thing, and also kind of boosting whatever,
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if they're telling a story and you're doing your yes and or no,
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but kind of building off of that and heading the same direction,
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kind of seeing what direction they're going.
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How have you been able to implement that aspect into, again,
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your creative projects or life in general?
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Yes. For instance, I, you know, when I, I, I love to brainstorm, right.
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And I love like, even when I have ideas for my stories, because yes, definitely.
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Like when it's, we're in a group, for instance, like a writer's group,
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and we're kind of like, you're taking notes from people or whatnot,
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or someone says something.
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And instead of just like being focused on, okay, the story where you want it
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to go, or you take the suggestion of that person and you add up on it,
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like you said, and even giving feedback to someone, the same thing, right?
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You want to kind of boost taking like, okay, what is it, the part of their story,
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but here's what I'm bringing.
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And then we kind of collaborate together to make this better.
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Right. And I like the fact that you said, yes, communication is everything in improv as well.
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So when you are building something together, and even in business sometimes,
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where you have partners or whatnot, you have a team together.
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But listen to, you know, it helps really to listen to people like the feedback
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and also, okay, how can I incorporate that feedback into what I'm doing?
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And also are, you know, really listen to what the person said,
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not as like criticism, but as a way of like, okay, they want to help me.
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They want to help the idea that we're constructing together.
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So not of something like, oh, no, this is my idea. And this is the way I see it.
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But more of like, okay, maybe they have, you know, this is I receive, you know, your idea.
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And let's see if we can make something with what is already there.
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Right. So I find it is beautiful, like for brainstorming, it's really, really great.
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Because it, you know, everyone is open to receive without judgment, right?
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And we have one goal is to make like, you know, one idea.
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We want to make the best ideas and we want to see like, have every people likes feedback or ideas.
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And we put it in a pod together and see like, you know, what we can make and
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it really makes things better.
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And also I do feel as well, like for a team,
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it helps kind of being on the same page and,
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and solidified, like just the team spirit and
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because everybody knows that they have a
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place and you have their racks and we're all in this together so
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I feel like improv comes into play that in that way as well yes and I know that
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you one of your nicknames is the brain your your brainstorm bestie right yeah
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I know that you love to brainstorm with people and I know that most of my listeners are writers,
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artists, and musicians.
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And sometimes we feel stuck and we just need someone to talk with.
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What's some of the benefits of having someone like you to brainstorm ideas off of?
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Yes. Yeah. No, thank you. And brainstorming is something that I love. I love just.
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For me again you know just like we said like improv
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i love sitting with someone because as writers you
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know i'm a writer as well so as writers sometimes we have blocks
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right sometimes like and as creators when we were training there comes a time
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that sometime we would love to discuss with someone but people around us sometimes
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they don't totally understand or or we don't have sometimes we don't have people
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to whom we can really talk to so having someone.
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That you can just like that can be a soundboard that can
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we can just go back and forth and even sometimes
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you know asking just some questions like how
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do we see it and collaboratively like together we you know discuss we we we
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make sure that you have someone that is listening but also that you can exchange
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and maybe give another eye another kind of like yeah maybe that has another viewpoint.
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And for me, I'm not there to, you know, as a brainstorming, I say it's not to
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give like, oh, this is how it should go.
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No, it's more reflecting and back and forth.
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And sometimes just maybe, you know, it's going to be enough to say like,
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oh, okay, a spark of another idea.
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And I will say like, you know, we sleep on it. It simmers.
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But, you know, it's just to have someone, because sometimes we have to exteriorize.
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We need to talk to someone. one we need to talk to someone
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that understand and also that will be you know
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that's not going to be judging us so that's why
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i say like i offer like this space that's non-judgmental
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where we can freely discuss you know go back
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and forth asking questions we ask questions and and
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make sure that you know we what right words and we do
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i you know i have some exercises as well like just to
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see like okay what other things that sparks you know sometimes we we start with
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something and it evolves into something else and then we sleep on it and then
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it evolves again and so giving that that space or you know for us to to make
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sure that okay we have someone that's.
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Receiving that's listening it's feel
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it's that's great for me i i i know i needed
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that so i love that i can offer that
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as well to people and it's something that i love to do as well so and it's so
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creative that you even thought of that as a service that you can provide for
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people and get paid for because i know for me lots of times i'll try to brainstorm
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off other people And they're just kind of getting overwhelmed because,
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you know, I'm basically asking them to do that for free when they have their busy lives.
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So just being able to have someone completely dedicated to brainstorming those
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ideas, like, I think that's genius.
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And I know that you also are a confidence coach.
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How does confidence in your experience relate to improv?
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And how can that help with your creative projects? Oh, definitely.
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You know, I feel like a lot of us, you know, whether it's a creative,
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but even like entrepreneurs or whatnot, we sometimes have this little voice
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that's like in their head saying like, oh, are we really going to do that? Are you sure?
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Or, you know, that's kind of the imposter syndrome that might be talking like,
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and you're just like, oh, okay.
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Is it like, am I good enough for that? Is it like, so we question there's,
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there's a lot of like, Like sometimes we question ourselves.
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So there's a lot of like questioning and confidence.
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confidence is important for us to put ourselves out there.
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if we're creating something, to put it out in the world.
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And sometimes, yes, we do, like I said, we do have imposter syndrome.
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We are proud to put ourselves out there. We are confident in the ideas and the vision that we have.
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And also once we have that, now how do we communicate it in the world, right?
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We have to put ourselves out there. We need to share our stories.
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We need to share our work with the world. And that's sometimes another aspect.
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Sometimes it's clear in our mind, but then to communicate it,
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we don't know how to, or we're shy, we become shy.
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We don't know how to share it. And I feel like it's something to work on. How do you communicate?
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How do you stand in your power and make sure like, this is my vision,
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this is my thing, and I want to share it with the world.
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And I feel like our vision, it's needed out there, right?
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yes i so just to to summarize
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like the question that improv in the in the sense of
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like confidence for me it helped me put myself
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out there and it's a it's a process it's step by step showing up even on social
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media showing up on video showing up on camera sometimes can be very hard you
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know we're not used to that so but it's just a process step by step and i love
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working with people because I've been there myself,
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you know, just being shy and not talking about like my stories or my dreams
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of like having my, my, my stories somewhat, you know, someday on Broadway or Netflix or whatnot,
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but, you know, step-by-step you, you develop your confidence and you can,
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you're able to talk about what you do and you're able to inspire people as well.
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Completely agree. I'm still working on the confidence part, but I really,
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really do believe that even just dabbling in improv has helped a lot with that.
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And I know that sometimes, at least for me, I want to hear if you have any experiences with this.
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Sometimes I'll be in an improv situation and I'm with someone and it's just,
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I'm not jiving with a prompt and I can't think of anything to say.
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but I'm just stuck and embarrassed and want to just hide my face.
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What kind of experiences do you have similar to that? And what are some ways
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that you were able to kind of get through that?
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I've been in a situation like that, that's you just like, oh,
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there's a blank or, you know, oh, darn, I was not funny. And, you know, it's fine.
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What I learned is to live in the moment.
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It's created in the moment, right? Right. So we cannot dwell too much on it
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because like there's a there's another scene.
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OK, here's what happened. Maybe I froze. Maybe.
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But it's OK. We we move on and we we learn from it and we get back up. Right.
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you know, for me as a writer, when I read stories, sometimes I was like,
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wow, okay, I'm stuck there.
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I don't know. Or the story that I thought like that I had in my mind,
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like it turned into something else.
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It's not as good as what, but you know, you kind of have to go,
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you know, for me, I was just like, okay, what can I do?
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you know, what the product will be at the end and learn from it.
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If it's not like maybe it's not the story that we wanted to tell, but it is a story.
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It's an output and we can learn from it and then apply to the next one.
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Maybe there's some things that we need to work on or whatnot, but that's OK.
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I feel like the best way is to just really learn and let it go and not dwell
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too much on it. And I know it's easier said than done because,
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you know, sometimes you're just like, oh, my God, no, this is embarrassing.
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you know, as creative, we we we have like passion.
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And we want also to just finish our work, right?
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And create something. So...
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I say like, you know, go with the things that, you know, give you energy and
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don't dwell too much on those little things, those little hiccups,
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because like we grow from it. Like everybody, it's fine.
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But that's really what I can say. But it's harder.
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It's easier said than done. done and but i i see
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to it like the also the more that we do it for
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instance like improv the more that i
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you know you're just like okay let's just go to the next one you kind of build
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a resistance you're just like okay that's fine i know like i i got back up from
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this embarrassing scene last time so it's not the end of the world you have
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kind of proof you know to to say like okay i did it before I,
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you know, nothing happened.
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People are not just like, people forget about it.
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It's fine. So let's just move on and move on to the next thing.
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It reminds me, yeah, I've had a lot of embarrassing improv moments that I'm
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still trying to move on from, even though nobody, I'm sure nobody remembers or nobody even cared.
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of using the PA system and making an announcement.
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and it's like not even that embarrassing.
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you know, unless you do something really, really embarrassing.
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But how important is just, And repetition and because I know for me,
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I tend to give up on things a lot and, you know, kind of switch into something else.
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How important has it been for you to kind of keep going with things and not
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give up when they seem hard?
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Yes, that is key, honestly. And I, I can relate with you.
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Sometimes you just feel like, okay, for instance, like I write a story and I'm
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blocked and I don't know.
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Like there's an unfinished business.
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I don't know if you know, sometimes you're just like, oh, there's this thing I need to go back to.
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okay, this is not working, you can put it aside and maybe work on it.
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I know for me, that's what I do.
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mind to to go back
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into whatever you were creating because you're you have a block sometimes you
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need we need to take a step back we need to experiment other things too you
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know sometimes before we get back to the thing and maybe Maybe sometimes it
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is the way it is supposed to be need to kind of like, let it go for a moment.
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that's really it will call the you will feel it that you need to finish whatever you started.
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So but but yes, it's hard, especially sometimes like you're just like,
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okay, I don't know how to do it. This is too complicated. I give up.
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I know sometimes this is, this is hard as well, but asking for help or going,
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you know, looking for resources, like, because we don't know everything.
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Like sometimes, for instance, you know, you're doing a podcast or whatnot,
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you don't know the technicalities and you have this vision and then you're like,
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oh, I give up because like, I don't know all of these like technical stuff, but.
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Maybe ask someone who has done it before, maybe just before completing giving up.
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I say sometimes we can also ask people for help, look for resources before giving up.
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and we just need someone to help us or we might look for a resource to guide us.
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that before because i do believe like if there's something if
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you have something that you want to do you know
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do it and don't give up don't give up because like i know if it's it's if it's
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but like it's in your mind for a reason it is like you know it's in your heart
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for a reason so i always say like don't give up can put it aside for a while
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but But come back to it and ask for help.
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Ask for people who've done it before to help you or an extra pair of eyes or whatnot.
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And I know some people listening might kind of want to get into improv,
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but maybe don't know where to go or how to get that confidence. in.
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I know that you have a few different services that you have,
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or I know that sometimes people can find places online or in their local communities.
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What would you suggest for someone who is interested but not sure how to get started?
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Yes. So definitely the first things, I do think like.
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Most major cities like there's an improv group
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somewhere for sure so with a little bit of research you
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can just like type improv in your city and you might find
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some improv groups that are playing there's some
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improv theaters there so i would say like you know if you you because if you
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don't know anything about improv maybe you can go and just see it sometimes
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they have like they have shows so maybe go see a show maybe just like also they
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have sometimes like uh tryouts or open houses or whatnot.
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So it's always good to get to know, look at their website, look at the videos,
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look at, and maybe go see a show to get acquainted a little bit with the,
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what is improv in general.
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And, and then if there's any tryouts, you know, we might want to ask about that
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just to see like to dabble into it a little bit, but I would say go see an improv show.
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And also there, There are, you know, we can also watch some clips on YouTube.
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They're different. You know, there's improv, there's like match.
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Like here we have like improv leagues with match. Like they have like,
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this looks like a hockey match.
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But there are different arts of improv. So I would say, honestly,
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look at your local improv theater and see if they have any open like house or
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open like kind of like one time you can try or go see a show.
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Just to get acquainted before you know just
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jumping into it especially if you don't know anything about it
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it can be very intimidating sometimes like
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just to see like oh am i going to go on stage at first no you're not going to
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go on stage like the first time but you know it's going to be a lot of fun like
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so yeah i would say that's that's those are the first things that i would suggest
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but if not like definitely for instance like for me like we have a company that But with what we do,
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we use improv to do like networking events as well.
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So we have networking events with like some games, you know,
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theatrical games so people can connect and listen better and a lot of fun at the same time.
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So it's loosely it's not an improv class per se.
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It's just using improv to just like connect people better.
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And so we do also team building activities for companies in order for them to
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get to know each other better and connect.
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So, you know, using Impov to kind of connect people. So that's like been really fun as well.
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I feel like that would be really useful for me when someone asks me, what's your book about?
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And us as writers, we're like, okay, so it's about this and this and this.
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Maybe if I could just, you know, quickly say what it's about,
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that is a very useful skill just or like an elevator pitch if you're out and
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about like, what kind of music do you do?
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What kind of art do you do? and just being able to quickly be able to say what you do.
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That's a skill that a lot of us struggle with.
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Yes. And speaking of networking, just final thoughts, where can people find you?
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And what are some last words of wisdom you would like to give anyone who is-
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Yes, okay, well, yes, thank you.
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So you can definitely find me, well, for me, like Instagram, on Instagram,
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I have an Instagram page, a yes to you coaching
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so yes to the number
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two you coaching so you can find me there
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for any you know confidence tips and for
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and also some double band problems as well
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like in terms of just brainstorming and and your ideas but also the company
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i was telling you about like where we do networking events you can look we have
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our website it's at mycreativebreak.com and we're They're almost on social medias
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as my creative break as well.
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So yes, if you want to see a little bit like how improv can be applied into other settings,
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you can look at our page and you'll see like how we kind of bring improv into
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different settings to have fun and to connect people.
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Yeah, I'm good. I've seen a little bit on your Instagram, but I'm gonna have
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to check out more. That sounds really fun.
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So yeah, thanks again for all of this awesome information.
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And we should have like, improv right for writers group.
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Yes yes yes and i will say like my
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last value of parting words is just like yeah try it
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you know let it simmer but the i i feel
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for me i it had it had an impact on my life in terms like i said confidence
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and and just all throughout like you know whether it's like my creative life
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or entrepreneurship life and also you get to meet great people you know i didn't
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mention that but But you get to meet like great supportive people and long life friends.
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And so it is a way as well to connect and to meet people and to meet other creatives
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as well. There are people from all walks of life there.
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So I would say, you know, if you didn't know anything about improv,
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just, you know, have a look and see if it's something that could help you.
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And I feel it's a skill that I feel everyone should kind of at least explore
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a little bit more. Thanks for tuning into this week's episode of The Success Palette.
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And please, let's make it a successful week.