# 35: A Psychic Marine, Foot Tacos and More Mind Bending Conversations

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and it's all blended together, like the ideas of spirituality and aliens and spirits and shadow people and, oneness of the universe and oh my gosh, it's just, it does make you wonder, you know, you're like, either this is completely cuckoo.

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Or it's a little true.

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There's just no other way to see it, I

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All right.

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Welcome to the new H Human N Podcast.

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I'm your host, John a Stasio.

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Today we are talking with Meredith Hackworth Edwards.

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She's the host of the Curious Introvert podcast.

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I spoke with her and I, I met her at an event recently, and, um, I thought, wouldn't it be cool if, since we both talk about fringe science and paranormal topics, that we can go over our favorite episodes so you can take advantage and skip around on both of our podcasts if something catches your attention.

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So stick around for the whole episode because I'll give you a sneak peek.

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We talk about a psychic marine, a doctor who studies religion in tech and UFOs, and, a man who ate his foot.

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Without further ado, let's go.

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So you're the curious introverts and which is.

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Curious but, we were just talking about how, let's have a conversation around the interesting people that we have conversations with.

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Because, sometimes you leave the conversation and you're like, what just happened?

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Yeah, it's like your whole life is different, not your whole day.

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It's like, like you do things differently.

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Every time I talk to someone, especially in the health and wellness space, you know, my husband's like, what are we doing or not doing now?

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Because I'm always like, babe, I just learned, fill in the blank with the thing I just learned, and then I enforce it.

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All right.

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So I can imagine like, you learning about one thing that, when I met you at, pod Fest, you had barefoot sandals.

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And when you heard about that, was that one of those things where you were like forcing your husband and be like, you know what, you need to get new shoes because this, this, and that.

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Like, did that ever happen

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No, I haven't said anything about, you know, his footwear.

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But, uh, no.

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I interviewed Sue Kenny.

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She's known as Barefoot Sue in episode 130 and in preparing for that epi.

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Episode, you know, the episode is not just the episode, right?

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The episode is the part of the, the glacier that everyone sees, but underneath, there's all this other stuff.

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And so I did all this research about, uh, the mechanics of our feet and the pros and cons of modern footwear.

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And around that time I'd also had a foot injury from wearing shoes.

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And so I thought, It was actually March of 2022, and I thought this is a good time to, you know, try barefooting.

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And so I didn't wear shoes as much as I could.

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I went to the grocery store barefoot, I ran Aaron's barefoot.

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Um, so I didn't impose that on my husband, but he does have to tolerate me being barefoot in situations that are less socially acceptable and buying those barefoot sandals that.

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You saw me wearing as kind of the exception because although I would love to go barefoot at a conference, I don't necessarily want to talk about it with every single person.

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It's not, I don't want it to be the center of conversation about my feet.

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So, um, so I have the barefoot sandals as a kind of in between.

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Okay.

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Okay.

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It reminds me, I have an episode that I brought it on, but I wanna bring the guy back on.

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It was like one, the fourth episode in, and he was talking about, uh, a story where his father stepped on a nail and because he stepped on a nail, he couldn't.

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Lift his arm past his shoulder, and it was interesting how those two seemingly wouldn't be related.

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But your foot is connected to everything, all the nerves, the, the muscles, everything's connected.

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And, it made me want to get another pair of, barefoot shoes because, it's a different, it's a different experience and, it helps with your posture.

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It helps with a lot of things.

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Is there anybody, specifically that you thought would be an interesting person to chat about or to bring up?

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So the show is actually Meredith for real, the Curious Introvert.

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It's a social science show, so, um, a lot.

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Social science is a big umbrella and so there's a lot to play with there, which is great because when I was learning about podcasting, I didn't, couldn't find one show that was kind of educational, that was kind of entertaining, that wasn't too high brow, et cetera, and that didn't just talk about the same thing every single week.

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And so that was part of what inspired me to create this variety show.

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I have since discovered the Jordan Harbinger show, which is.

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Obviously fantastic.

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It's number one in his category and very similar, it turns out to mine, or I'm similar to his cuz he's the veteran, right?

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Um, so half of the episodes are with people who are very paradoxical, like they shouldn't exist.

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And then the other half is asking questions that people think, but they don't say out loud, maybe because they're taboo or because of cultural hypnosis.

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So the one example that I wanna give on the paradoxical side is with Dr.

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Bruce Grayson.

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He is an atheist doctor who studied near death experiences for 50 years.

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Yeah.

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You're like, that should not be a thing.

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That is so weird.

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Right?

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And so that's episode 93 and I read his book cover to cover and I, I can confidently say it really changed my life because.

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I was afraid of death.

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And that book has convinced me that regardless of, you know, your religious framework or your spiritual framework, there is something on the other side of death.

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And I just now, I feel like, oh wow, that'll be a cool place to go, you know?

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Be careful with that one,

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Right, right.

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Well, um, it's really interesting.

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The University of Virginia has all these, it's just like a podcaster's dreamland.

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Um, they study near death experiences, past life regression from, uh, accounts of children, just all kinds of really cool stuff up there.

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And so not only did it help me personally, not be afraid of death, but it really opened my eyes to how.

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I'll say connected.

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All of our theories and thoughts are in the world around us, right?

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Because we tend to, you know, bifurcate ourselves like, I'm on this side, you're on that side.

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But, um, you know, really it's the same, same thing.

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It's, it's all a part of the same place and there's really not sides.

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And uh, that's what's just really cool about podcasting is it gives you so many.

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Opportunities for greater perspective than just when you're in your day to day, which is kind of what I call the algorithm, right?

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Because we have a digital algorithm and it does trap us, if you will, into a bubble of same thinking, our same thinking.

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Compared to those with the people we're connected with.

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And then we have like this physical algorithm where we're just naturally drawn to people who are similar to us.

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And that's okay, but you do miss out when you don't put yourself in situations where you can listen to people who have different.

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Uh, experience different knowledge than you.

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So I mean that, so that's, that's for me.

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I'm curious to hear about what you, uh, have found because your show is much more into, you know, what might be labeled fringe science, right?

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And so you've got like way more, uh, you know, stuff in your catalog that would be different in mine.

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I do have an episode that I wanna bring up, which is like perfectly aligned with what you just mentioned, but I, I have to ask the atheist doctor that worked with death experiences?

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Like, did he at least acknowledge that there's somewhere.

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That people go it does sound like he wants, he thinks of it more of like a matrix type of thing.

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If, if ours in his head,

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Yeah, I asked him how it's impacted his, you know, spiritual theories and, uh, he said he definitely believes that.

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Death is not the end.

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Um, and that's about, he said, that's about all, that's about all I can say concretely cuz he is a true scientist and that's what I respected about him so much is he is constantly scrutinizing his own.

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Conclusions.

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And that's what true science is, is not being, just not just yelling, trust the science and then don't question me.

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Don't question it.

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But instead questioning yourself, questioning, why do I think this?

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How long have I believed this to be true?

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Why do I believe this to be true?

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And so all he said was, death is not the end.

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And that's all I know.

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So maybe that doesn't categorize him as a true atheist.

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Uh, I'm not sure.

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Yeah, it's hard to put a category on that.

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I, I always say he's a curious person.

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He's a curious, very left brain leaning person, as in he's having a hard time trying to put facts with something that.

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There's no, that's untangible.

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He's trying to grasp something.

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He's trying to grab air at this point.

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So it's very interesting to, to see that.

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But I, I'm happy to hear that there's people in that situation that are still going and they're not just, they didn't make a decision and stick with it.

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They're continuing to go cuz there's so much to learn.

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Um, but the episode that I wanted to ring up was episode 17, where, I pretty much get back into contact with my deceased brother from beyond the grave through the

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Uh, what,

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a paranormal psychic detective.

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okay.

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I know this is not a contest, John, but you just won.

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No, no, honestly, I think it just means that we, I, I dove in the rabbit hole and just like, you don't even see feet anymore.

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You know?

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That's how far it went.

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Um, we did an episode first, and I, we chatted about her experience as a psychic detective, where visually she tries to find missing people.

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And, um, they reach out to her, the detectives, and she has people she works with so that they can find someone.

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And while people are using dogs in the neighborhood, she's just kind of like seeing visions of somebody who's deceased communicating with her, which was nuts.

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And so I, I, I was like, let's do a follow up.

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I want to see if we can, um, get some information from my brother and, for context.

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My father's side, he's a, he literally is a brother for mother.

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Another mother, right?

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Same father, different moms.

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he was in a different state.

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We grew up in different, you know, um, households.

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And so I wasn't as connected with him.

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And so when he passed, there was a lot of, Empty information, right?

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Missing information.

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So I would reach out to my siblings to confirm the information that the psychic was giving me.

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So, and then you could say, well, John, uh, social media is a thing.

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She could probably just be following the dude, you know, researched you, you know, she just has his name.

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That's it.

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Right.

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No, he's so bad.

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Or he was so bad with social media that um, whenever he got a new phone, he would have a new Facebook account.

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Thinking that it was what you had to do, he wouldn't log back in.

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So like there was nothing, so it was, it was pretty crazy.

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Because it's not that often that you have a conversation with a psychic outside of a fair, right.

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Or watching it on tv.

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I couldn't deny the fact that she did bring up specifics of where he.

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Uh, where he lived, where he grew up, and I learned more about my brother through her, which is the most weirdest thing.

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What are your thoughts on that?

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Do you even think that's possible?

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Like are you, what are your thoughts on like, the paranormal, do you, have you had experience of that or is there, does it bring up like a memory that you experienced or like a show?

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I'm just curious.

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No, I haven't had any remarkable paranormal experiences.

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Um, I think that's so cool that you got to get to know your brother postmortem, though.

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I mean, that's, that's pretty incredible, especially that you had to, you know, just take the data that she was giving you and then go and double check about that.

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That's, that's a really.

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Interesting.

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I wrote down episode 17.

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I'm gonna go listen to that episode cuz I wanna know what she said to you.

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Um, now I interviewed, um, Jose Herrera in episode 1 52 and he was a psychic in the, uh, psychic Marine.

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Basically he's a, a marine that I guess the.

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US government trains lots of military personnel, but especially Marines, uh, to be in touch with their psychic abilities.

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However, this is so interesting.

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I'd love to hear your thoughts on this because, and I, I, I'm saying this in response to your question because this has made me think about my senses.

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I'll say right.

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And so he said that being air quote psychic has, we'll say two sides to it.

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One is situational awareness.

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The, the kind of, uh, environmental observations that give you data that because our noses are in our phones.

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We are not privy to, but it's the kind of observational awareness that is heightened in people who spend a lot of time in nature.

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So he said that the, uh, Marines would try to recruit people who had hunting experience because hunters have an elevated level of situational awareness that they found very critically helpful.

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In on the ground when they were in, uh, he was in Afghanistan and I thought that was really interesting.

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Um, and so half of it was that, and he said half of it is somehow some from another place, and we don't know where it's from, but I believe it was.

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Him who quoted, uh, someone else who said the universe is like ones and zeros.

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It's data.

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And so if you think of the data, the information in the universe as a giant Google and you can go, Hmm, I wonder how, um, uncle Ben is doing.

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And then all of a sudden you get a call from Uncle Ben, right?

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It's like you googled Uncle Ben to the universe and then it brought you Uncle Ben.

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And so that all of that information together has been really interesting for me.

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And so I've.

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Really tried to use it in practical ways for decision making.

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And so that's about as spooky as my life gets, although there is a ghost cat in my house.

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Oh wait.

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Every once in a while I see a cat and I'm like, yeah, it's a ghost, but it's out of the corner of my eye and I don't think it's a big deal, but, uh, yeah.

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But.

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That was a hard turn.

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Sorry there John.

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That's great.

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That's great.

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Do you see like a, uh, okay.

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Do you see a, do you see a tail?

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Let me start with a, the cat.

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Do you see a tail or like, how do you know it's a cat?

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Is it like the, the, the meow or you said it, it's in the

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There's no sound.

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Yeah, it's in the corner of my eye.

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It's just a knowing.

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I just, Ooh, sometimes I do have knowings.

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Um, yeah, I forgot about that.

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Um, Anyway, I'm again, do I'm, I'm bad John.

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You gotta keep me on track cuz I'm

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no, no.

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I'm

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D all

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I'm enjoying it.

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I'm enjoying it.

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The knowings.

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yeah, you just know like, oh, that's a cat.

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Like I just knew ever since we moved in here, which is almost 10 years ago, I would just see a cat at the corner of my eye.

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Like, you know how when they.

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How cats try to run away real fast.

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Like to say they're crossing from one area of the room to the other and they wanna do it before you can see them, so they just dash.

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Do you know what I'm talking about?

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I don't have any

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I have a cat They're just buck wild and they're just knocking things over and scattering around running.

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So that is very real.

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And yes, it's like, the cats are doing parkour all night, you know, jumping off the walls.

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And, um, in your home, there was a cat that did die and it's sticking around because.

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I believe that's possible.

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Because we have ghost mice apparently.

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I mean, why else would it stick around?

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That's, that's a weird question.

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You know, like ghost animals, you don't hear too much of that.

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It's more people, you know.

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Right.

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People would make more sense.

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I don't know why I have Googled it so other people have experienced that, specifically cats.

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But I, I'm like, eh, it's not, I mean, it doesn't, uh, I don't feel nothing in my gut is like, this is a problem.

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I'm just like, you know, my computer do, do, do, do.

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Oh, there's the cat.

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And I mentioned it very casually to my husband one day.

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He's like, these are things you should tell me.

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He's like, how long has this been going on?

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I was like, since we moved in, he's like, that was nine years ago.

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Please tell me if you see any more apparitions.

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And I'm like, oh, yeah.

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So one day I came up to him, I was like, Hey, remember when you told me that if I see that ghost cat, I should tell you?

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And he's like, yeah.

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I said, okay.

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I just saw it.

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He's like, I have so many questions.

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And I was like, I don't have any answers.

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I'm just keeping my promise to tell you that I saw it.

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So that's actually pretty cool.

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It, it's cool that you have that relationship where he's, he's like, let me know.

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I want to know.

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I did want to go back to, uh, the interview you had with the, uh, The ex-military guy, and it does sound like you said psychic, but it sounds like remote viewing is, is that close to what he was talking about or more of like psychically?

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Intuitive psychicness.

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I think it was more intuitive, although we know from declassified, uh, documents, I'm laughing because I never get to talk about this stuff really on my shoulder to this level.

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Um, that remote viewing as far as like the military training is, has definitely been a thing in the past.

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Um, as is, uh, what's the thing called when you sleep and then you leave your body?

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Out of body experience

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Astral pro, uh, astral projection.

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Okay.

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Yeah.

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So like they tried to train soldiers or just people to do that as well.

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Um, that to me is completely fascinating.

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I would love to learn how to do that.

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I'm not sure where I'd go.

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I'd probably just be at Walgreens, like something lame.

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Like I'll just grocery shop while I'm here.

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Yeah,

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you know, like I'm gonna go to the

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dream and experience.

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Yeah, I mean, I should go somewhere cool.

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But um, it's, it's mostly just knowing, like he would say, Hey guys, I have a feeling that, you know, um, he had a different, had lots of jargon I didn't recognize.

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I think he said, you know, 20 clicks that way, or something like that.

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He's like, I, I just have a feeling that something is going to happen there.

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Let's instead go this way.

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And then they would make whole decisions with their group based on.

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Gut instincts from him and other members of his group.

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It's, it's fascinating that, um, something that you would see in a movie that's considered science fiction is actually happening in real life.

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And like you said, things are being disclosed that it's been known already.

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People are trained on it and people are taking risks and taking and making really important decisions on that stuff.

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Life and death

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Yes, yes.

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So imagine being part of like, This crew of guys, and you barely know about this stuff, but you got one guy who's apparently a psychic and, um, you're in the enemy territory, and he's like, I think something bad is gonna go, go on 20 clicks to the right.

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Let's go left.

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And you're like, all right, let's go.

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Like, that's a lot of, a lot, a lot of trust

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and you know what's fascinating is stories like Jose's is it blends with lots of other paranormal, uh, what we consider paranormal, um, phenomenon.

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You know, when he was in Afghanistan, Afghanistan is so freaking.

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Cool.

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Like there's so much there.

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But, um, he would talk about lights, he would talk about um, Sasquatch type situations.

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Uh, like just so there's so much and, and yeah.

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And then it's all blended because, and then do you know who gr Chris bled Bledso blood?

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Sal is Blood Sal

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No.

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No.

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Do you know?

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Um, okay, so in episode, 1 48.

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I interviewed Dr.

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Diana Walsh Paska, who studies the intersection between religion, technology, and UFOs.

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Right, you would love her.

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Her book is called American Cosmic 10 Outta 10 would recommend because she takes an academic approach, but she's very open-minded and she has this interesting, you know, framework of, you know, the her, those intersections that I mentioned.

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So it creates a really.

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It just gives you a new perspective, but one of the first people that she interviewed was Chris Bloods Blood Sal, b l e d s o e, and he has some crazy stories that's like every single.

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Paranormal phenomenon you can think of has happened to him except for, I, I haven't read his full book yet, but Sasquatch, uh, except for that, and it's all blended together, like the ideas of spirituality and aliens and spirits and shadow people and, um, oneness of the universe and oh my gosh, it's just, it does make you wonder, you know, you're like, either this is completely cuckoo.

00:23:24.936 --> 00:23:26.646
Or it's a little true.

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There's just no other way to see it, I

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It.

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It's one of those things where if 1% of it is factual, then holy cow.

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Right.

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Just 1%.

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Right?

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If you can just prove that one of these vehicles was not from Earth, that just, that opens the door for so many other things.

00:23:51.846 --> 00:23:54.487
Um, there's an episode that I have.

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Uh, it's called down the Rabbit Hole.

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Uh, there's like part one, part two cuz we just went bananas.

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And, uh, episode 10.

00:24:03.007 --> 00:24:06.457
And, he brings up the men in black, which was pretty cool.

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And, I, he brought up a, a video that he saw that they were technically actually captured on video and it's on YouTube, but we, we go and we dive into stuff like that I think we talk about aliens, we talk about similar stuff.

00:24:20.922 --> 00:24:26.561
And I, I love talking about that stuff and I am looking for more people to talk about that stuff because it's like, why not?

00:24:26.561 --> 00:24:29.021
It's, it's cool to question stuff.

00:24:29.561 --> 00:24:30.912
Have you ever heard of tarter?

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Ooh.

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Ah, man.

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It, it's one of those episodes that I didn't put a number in front of it, but if you do a search, um, for tarter, Matt Roski, um, he has a huge following and they love that episode and it's a hidden civilization talking about how potentially in the past we had better technology than we do have now, and there are of it in old architecture that they had.

00:25:01.646 --> 00:25:12.596
Electricity way back when, like hundreds of years ago before we even put the first wire, before Benjamin got almost electrocuted by a kite in the storm.

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You know, like, just like there we, we go into that and how like, We, there's so much mystery behind it.

00:25:20.037 --> 00:25:24.477
And speaking of, uh, cia, you know, hopefully, maybe I'll have to censor that word.

00:25:24.477 --> 00:25:24.777
Right.

00:25:25.237 --> 00:25:35.017
I don't think we, we went into this, but there was a document that, um, that was, uh, disclosed by the CIA that talks about how Russia back Mm.

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In communist times when Russia was communist country, they.

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Deliberately erased the history of this civilization because it was right next door to Russia.

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For reasons that the civilization, they, it was kinda like having the United States next to you and you're trying to control everything and you have too many free people, too many free thinkers, too many self-sufficient high technology people next door, and you just want to cut that.

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And so it's very mysterious.

00:26:04.811 --> 00:26:06.001
And I love that subject matter,

00:26:06.801 --> 00:26:08.241
So here's a question.

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What do you.

00:26:09.682 --> 00:26:12.531
What do you personally do with all this information?

00:26:12.531 --> 00:26:19.041
Right, because you know, I think it's so easy to consume.

00:26:19.416 --> 00:26:21.936
Information like this, it's highly palatable.

00:26:22.237 --> 00:26:26.946
It's the processed food version of information, right?

00:26:26.946 --> 00:26:31.356
Because you're like, oh yeah, alien, psychics, shadow people.

00:26:31.836 --> 00:26:36.307
I mean, it's like, you know, Cheerios and Twinkies basically.

00:26:36.307 --> 00:26:37.517
It's just so easy to eat,

00:26:37.541 --> 00:26:37.961
Mm-hmm.

00:26:38.047 --> 00:26:38.751
Mm-hmm.

00:26:38.856 --> 00:26:40.866
then like what do you do with it?

00:26:41.076 --> 00:26:44.557
How do you prevent it from rotting your brain, right?

00:26:44.557 --> 00:26:46.477
Because there's.

00:26:47.017 --> 00:26:59.557
I think that's the difference between like active and passive curiosity, but it's tricky in areas like fringe science to convert that into something that is concrete in your life.

00:26:59.586 --> 00:27:07.957
So I'm curious like how, how you convert that into something for yourself and for, you know, to better yourself and society.

00:27:08.636 --> 00:27:10.136
That's a really good question.

00:27:10.376 --> 00:27:18.896
Um, and I glad, I'm glad you asked that because people ask me, so what, you know, someone who is maybe not that interested, so what?

00:27:18.957 --> 00:27:25.257
And I'm like, well, one, if you forget about your past, then you're gonna make.

00:27:26.196 --> 00:27:29.977
A repeat mistake, you're gonna make the same mistake if you don't know your past.

00:27:30.156 --> 00:27:35.797
And if a lot of your past is hidden from you, we're probably making a lot of mistakes that we shouldn't be making.

00:27:36.186 --> 00:28:01.747
That's one, two, um, it stretches the mind so that you can think outside the box of what's possible so that when you go to find a solution to something that goes on in today's world, you're thinking with a broader perspective of what's possible so that you, when you, something does pop up and you're like, this seems like it's that, that that's in no books right now.

00:28:02.287 --> 00:28:04.717
And people are doing that right now.

00:28:04.747 --> 00:28:05.737
And those are people that.

00:28:06.442 --> 00:28:12.142
I'm working on finding more of where they found something tangible and they're using it right?

00:28:12.471 --> 00:28:19.132
These, um, books of people that like, like Tesla, not the car, the actual guy.

00:28:19.491 --> 00:28:29.301
He talked about a lot of things and people are bringing that back because there's better ways to do things that we're doing now that are more cost efficient and more environmentally friendly as well.

00:28:29.602 --> 00:28:30.682
So I see it a bit.

00:28:30.787 --> 00:28:39.366
I see it as, you know, broadening your horizons, making your mind be able to grasp more concepts so you can have better solutions.

00:28:39.757 --> 00:28:49.426
Another thing is, um, when you said it's like the process, food of information, I thought of, um, the idea of the term fear porn.

00:28:49.537 --> 00:28:52.386
Have you ever heard of the term fear porn?

00:28:52.787 --> 00:28:53.207
Mm-hmm.

00:28:53.227 --> 00:28:53.707
Yeah.

00:28:53.767 --> 00:28:54.307
Awesome.

00:28:54.576 --> 00:28:55.116
Where?

00:28:56.616 --> 00:28:56.826
Yeah.

00:28:56.826 --> 00:29:06.142
So it, it's, it's, It's a scary, sensational title on social media, and you're like, oh my God, are we going to die tomorrow?

00:29:06.261 --> 00:29:08.451
Is there a meteorite coming?

00:29:08.662 --> 00:29:10.342
Are we going to get flooded?

00:29:10.372 --> 00:29:16.852
Uh, you know, like global warming, ah, you know, fear porn, like you're addicted to it because it's like, you need to know.

00:29:16.991 --> 00:29:18.201
You need to know.

00:29:18.622 --> 00:29:21.501
Um, and those things I, I tell, try to tell people.

00:29:21.501 --> 00:29:24.051
Be careful with how do you feel?

00:29:24.892 --> 00:29:34.491
When you're confronted with this information, are you curious to know more, to find a better way of doing things, or does it put you into a fear mentality?

00:29:34.491 --> 00:29:36.592
A fear-based energy, right.

00:29:36.912 --> 00:29:37.132
And.

00:29:37.461 --> 00:29:45.862
from conversations and research, when you're in a, that fear-based mentality, that's that fight or flight mode, you are less logical, more emotional.

00:29:45.862 --> 00:29:52.372
So you're going to, you know, everybody knows it's really bad to make emotional decisions, so, you know, calm down.

00:29:53.287 --> 00:29:54.307
Come back to it.

00:29:54.396 --> 00:30:02.346
Reassess with a more balanced, not necessarily all logic or all emotion, but you're, you're imbalance,

00:30:02.446 --> 00:30:03.616
That's such a good point.

00:30:03.646 --> 00:30:13.517
That is such a, it's, I think that's so valuable to filter the information through that lens that you just described, because it increases your interoception, right?

00:30:13.517 --> 00:30:18.011
Your mind, body connectedness, and even beyond that connected to your actions.

00:30:18.481 --> 00:30:18.771
Okay.

00:30:18.771 --> 00:30:20.152
Are you about to just.

00:30:20.571 --> 00:30:32.991
Share that post about, you know, aliens invading or are you going to Google it for like, do some light background searching at least before you just post it?

00:30:33.352 --> 00:30:40.291
I think that's, that's a nice, it's like everyone can set up personal protocols to help, mitigate that.

00:30:41.507 --> 00:30:47.717
Sharing of fear porn and, and yeah, because the human brain is definitely, you know, we're problem solvers.

00:30:47.717 --> 00:30:54.403
So when we don't have problems, unfortunately with the internet, we seek, them out.

00:30:54.493 --> 00:30:54.943
Right.

00:30:55.034 --> 00:30:56.284
You know, we used to invent things.

00:30:56.804 --> 00:30:59.413
Now we just get outraged on the internet and share it.

00:30:59.953 --> 00:31:02.894
And you gotta be careful, you know?

00:31:03.628 --> 00:31:08.038
Gotta be careful cuz that's at the end of the day, that's your legacy.

00:31:08.098 --> 00:31:11.459
Nothing is permanent except for what's on the internet as they say.

00:31:12.193 --> 00:31:12.703
Yeah.

00:31:12.733 --> 00:31:13.064
Right.

00:31:13.064 --> 00:31:18.523

# 35: A Psychic Marine, Foot Tacos and More Mind Bending Conversations

Meredith Hackwith Edwards

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