Transcript
WEBVTT
00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:09.710
I literally know somebody personally, who is like, look, I don't want to give up alcohol and eating all this food that I like to eat and going out to restaurants and not worrying about any of this stuff.
00:00:10.019 --> 00:00:12.970
But they want their medical issues resolved and I'm thinking, oh boy.
00:00:13.509 --> 00:00:14.759
Their issues did go away.
00:00:14.949 --> 00:00:20.500
You know, the blood pressure, the high cholesterol, the diabetes, the arthritis, and even glaucoma.
00:00:20.760 --> 00:00:21.070
Okay.
00:00:21.559 --> 00:00:25.170
these things are supposed to be incurable and I'm not making any claims at all.
00:00:25.170 --> 00:00:28.730
I'm just telling you there, there's been people who that those conditions have disappeared
00:00:32.280 --> 00:00:32.759
All right.
00:00:32.759 --> 00:00:35.219
Welcome to the new age human podcast.
00:00:35.219 --> 00:00:37.369
I'm your host, Jon Astacio today.
00:00:37.725 --> 00:00:40.185
We're talking with Greg, the Hydrogen Man.
00:00:40.664 --> 00:00:51.332
Greg Hman is a molecular hydrogen therapy specialist, researcher, and host of his YouTube channel called Uprising144K, Hydrogen Man.
00:00:51.411 --> 00:00:53.911
I think it's just Uprising144K.
00:00:54.161 --> 00:00:59.642
Now, in the episode, we do talk about hydrogen water, but we talk about Greg's health struggles.
00:00:59.752 --> 00:01:05.409
And, just as a heads up, it is going to be very dense with information.
00:01:05.418 --> 00:01:06.409
So buckle up.
00:01:06.998 --> 00:01:13.259
We talk about hydrogen water, the health benefits, crazy stories, all that it gets interesting.
00:01:13.358 --> 00:01:16.418
Now if you want to support the show, I'm actually looking for some feedback.
00:01:16.418 --> 00:01:17.929
So go to NewAgeHuman.
00:01:17.929 --> 00:01:27.811
com and on the top right You'll be able to hit the contact button and send me an email or on the bottom right, you can leave a voicemail using the microphone.
00:01:27.811 --> 00:01:28.432
That's there.
00:01:28.602 --> 00:01:30.625
Now let's talk about some hydrogen.
00:01:30.674 --> 00:01:33.795
Greg Hman, the hydrogen man.
00:01:33.844 --> 00:01:34.704
Welcome to the show.
00:01:34.715 --> 00:01:35.614
Thanks for coming on, man.
00:01:36.334 --> 00:01:37.064
Oh, absolutely.
00:01:37.075 --> 00:01:38.665
Thanks for having me, Jon I'm
00:01:38.665 --> 00:01:39.224
excited.
00:01:39.444 --> 00:01:48.915
Like I usually say to have you on because the subject matter of water is huge and there's a lot of opinions out there.
00:01:49.825 --> 00:01:51.685
Um, and yeah, yeah.
00:01:51.685 --> 00:01:56.394
I'm pretty sure, you know, um, so for the audience.
00:01:56.719 --> 00:02:03.099
To get an idea of your story on the why and the what and whatnot, I want to bring it home.
00:02:03.359 --> 00:02:14.430
Can you, um, start off with like what happened to you health wise that made you need to like do some drastic changes and discover this stuff?
00:02:15.259 --> 00:02:18.340
Yeah, basically what made me a water expert and hydrogen expert.
00:02:19.935 --> 00:02:28.004
You know what it comes down to because yeah, I mean, basically I got really sick and I had a lot of health issues that I tried to ignore and things got really bad.
00:02:28.034 --> 00:02:33.074
I mean, I have the list is so long sometimes I even forget some of them anymore because I had, let's see here.
00:02:33.074 --> 00:02:34.905
I had a heart condition that was really bad.
00:02:35.004 --> 00:02:38.435
My cardiologist said I maybe had 10 years left of life.
00:02:38.435 --> 00:02:43.314
So that was one of the bigger ones, but it wasn't the one that was actually causing me the most pain.
00:02:43.574 --> 00:02:47.205
I had such extreme pain throughout my body and inflammation.
00:02:47.479 --> 00:02:56.789
Like autoimmune issues issues with my gut and the inflammation was so bad that it literally felt like my back felt like there was a sledgehammer taken in my back.
00:02:56.789 --> 00:02:58.099
Like, I just felt like my back was broken.
00:02:58.099 --> 00:02:58.860
I couldn't walk.
00:02:59.560 --> 00:03:01.900
And so I was in extreme pain from that.
00:03:02.280 --> 00:03:04.840
My liver wasn't at peak performance.
00:03:04.849 --> 00:03:06.379
So my liver wasn't doing super good.
00:03:06.379 --> 00:03:08.430
Sometimes I was told I would look kind of yellowish.
00:03:09.030 --> 00:03:12.930
And, you know, so that was kind of a thing that doctors would always say.
00:03:13.580 --> 00:03:15.939
And my kidneys were also not optimal.
00:03:16.389 --> 00:03:19.189
And that's pretty much the gist of it.
00:03:19.189 --> 00:03:22.550
I mean, I literally couldn't pick up a remote control and change the channel on television.
00:03:22.560 --> 00:03:24.280
That's how bad my joints hurt.
00:03:24.289 --> 00:03:29.020
It just felt like everything was, you know, I felt like I was going to break something all the time.
00:03:29.020 --> 00:03:29.349
Like,
00:03:29.349 --> 00:03:29.650
like, uh.
00:03:29.659 --> 00:03:30.629
And my immune system.
00:03:31.280 --> 00:03:42.509
Well, I was going to say, like, you know how they say as you get older, it's expected for you to feel pain, pain in your joints and you know, your body feels like Rice Krispies and you start popping and all that.
00:03:42.509 --> 00:03:47.419
And, um, I'm actually curious, what was your diet like back then?
00:03:47.469 --> 00:03:50.979
Like, what was your lifestyle that you think that could have attributed to that?
00:03:51.724 --> 00:03:52.305
Well,
00:03:52.514 --> 00:03:57.525
so as far as my diet, my, my view of life back then was I'm just going to eat whatever I want.
00:03:57.525 --> 00:03:58.675
That was pretty much it.
00:03:58.715 --> 00:03:59.435
It's like whatever I want.
00:03:59.435 --> 00:04:00.474
I never thought about that.
00:04:01.094 --> 00:04:03.694
And the biggest thing was I was really athletic.
00:04:04.125 --> 00:04:06.574
So I was really like, I'm into working out.
00:04:06.585 --> 00:04:10.764
So my whole motto was eat whatever I want as long as I exercise and work out.
00:04:11.335 --> 00:04:13.294
Cause I was just like thinking, I don't want to get overweight.
00:04:13.754 --> 00:04:15.664
You know, I don't want to get out of shape overweight.
00:04:15.694 --> 00:04:17.334
I've been athletic pretty much all my life.
00:04:17.334 --> 00:04:20.745
So that was my thing, you know, I was like, Hey, I don't have to worry about food.
00:04:20.865 --> 00:04:22.105
I don't have to worry about what I eat.
00:04:22.105 --> 00:04:23.345
I don't have to worry about what I drink.
00:04:23.345 --> 00:04:27.845
I mean, that was pretty much how easy it was for me in my opinion and lifestyle.
00:04:27.845 --> 00:04:31.824
And I could care less when people talked about, Oh, you should have this that you should have that.
00:04:31.824 --> 00:05:04.454
I'm like, whatever, like, That's the last time that's the last thing I want to spend any energy thinking about diet seems so difficult at the time To try to figure out what I should eat what I shouldn't eat, you know this that and the other So yeah, that was that was basically my lifestyle and my immune system by the way was absolute trash You know and before I go on I just want to let people know, you know, i'm not giving any medical advice today I'm, not making any medical claims just so people understand that everything is my opinion But but yeah, so my immune system was garbage and when I would get sick it would Take me at least a month to overcome like a common cold or the flu.
00:05:04.464 --> 00:05:05.245
It was pretty bad.
00:05:05.754 --> 00:05:09.475
And then when I would recover, I literally would get sick within a week again.
00:05:09.524 --> 00:05:12.644
And I was like, oh my gosh, and I'd go through a whole other month, a month and a half.
00:05:13.204 --> 00:05:17.584
And when I couldn't walk, I'd have these stints of like literally six months without being able to walk.
00:05:17.584 --> 00:05:19.214
And then I would start getting up and hobbling.
00:05:19.774 --> 00:05:23.355
And then it would happen again where I would hurt myself very easily.
00:05:23.714 --> 00:05:26.225
And, you know, I'd be down again for four to six months.
00:05:26.254 --> 00:05:27.754
And the pain was excruciating.
00:05:27.795 --> 00:05:30.214
That was a, that was a really big issue was the pain.
00:05:30.675 --> 00:05:34.894
I literally was given like morphine and really heavy duty, you know, opioids.
00:05:35.194 --> 00:05:37.055
And honestly, they didn't even make a dent.
00:05:37.375 --> 00:05:38.745
They didn't even make a dent in my pain.
00:05:38.785 --> 00:05:39.504
They did nothing.
00:05:40.024 --> 00:05:40.704
And so I was
00:05:40.714 --> 00:05:41.185
suffering.
00:05:41.574 --> 00:05:45.665
I was going to say, what was the trigger point that made you say, I got to make it?
00:05:46.170 --> 00:05:50.399
I got to start looking for solutions because it sounds like it just kept on like layering up for you.
00:05:50.930 --> 00:05:51.459
Yeah.
00:05:51.529 --> 00:05:54.360
And you know, and I forgot to mention, I also had some tumors in my body too.
00:05:54.360 --> 00:05:55.389
So that was another one.
00:05:55.399 --> 00:06:03.019
See, I mean, I had all the, there was so much going on that it really looked like, I mean, people who cared about me, I mean, it really looked like I was on my way out.
00:06:03.305 --> 00:06:24.254
I mean, I was really in bad shape and obviously losing a ton of weight and the turning point for me Was and it's not like to get too spiritual or anything, but I was on a couch I mean, I still remember vividly where I was I was literally on the couch because I couldn't walk and I saw you know what I can't do anything I'm gonna play a video game So I try to grab a controller and I and I couldn't because my joints hurt so bad I'm like god, I can't even play a video game.
00:06:24.264 --> 00:06:24.995
This is ridiculous.
00:06:25.004 --> 00:06:28.175
You know, it's pretty like pissed off at myself I'm like, why can't I do this?
00:06:28.649 --> 00:06:29.259
Wait, what game?
00:06:29.279 --> 00:06:30.060
I just need to know.
00:06:30.389 --> 00:06:30.899
You know what?
00:06:30.930 --> 00:06:32.899
I didn't, I didn't, it was probably going to be a car game.
00:06:32.959 --> 00:06:33.720
I'm a car guy.
00:06:33.879 --> 00:06:34.970
I love those car games.
00:06:35.019 --> 00:06:37.850
You know, Grand Trees, I just love that game, you know.
00:06:38.529 --> 00:06:43.399
And, you know, and for, I mean, just so you know, back in the day, I was really into automotive racing.
00:06:43.560 --> 00:06:47.009
I did some automotive racing, so it's part of my background.
00:06:47.579 --> 00:06:50.870
And so anyway, so then I went to go try on the TV and I remember grabbing the remote.
00:06:51.324 --> 00:06:54.584
And I went to go change the channel and I couldn't, that's how much it hurt.
00:06:54.634 --> 00:06:57.564
And so I remember propping up the remote and I'm trying to use the weight of my finger.
00:06:58.125 --> 00:07:00.865
And it was at that point, I'm not kidding you, man, I just started crying.
00:07:01.105 --> 00:07:10.464
I just broke down because, you know, I'm not like crazy old and I feel like I'm 120 and I'm in so much pain and I can't even.
00:07:11.000 --> 00:07:12.189
Turn on the television.
00:07:12.420 --> 00:07:20.509
I mean, there's 80 year olds who can turn on the television and, uh, and I just started crying, you know, and I just completely broke down right then and there.
00:07:20.509 --> 00:07:24.360
And I had other breakdowns before, but that was the one where I was like, you know what?
00:07:24.509 --> 00:07:24.839
And I prayed.
00:07:24.839 --> 00:07:44.029
And I think that sometimes when we're at our lowest point, regardless of what your belief system is, it's like, I just prayed, you know, and my prayer, I mean, I don't know if it was the right one or not, but I remember praying, just saying, look, God, if you can just, Help me, guide me somehow to find the answers to these.
00:07:44.500 --> 00:07:45.790
Issues that I'm dealing with.
00:07:46.509 --> 00:07:49.600
I only assumed that whatever would help me would help others.
00:07:50.579 --> 00:07:52.750
I don't know why I assumed that, that's just what I was thinking.
00:07:52.790 --> 00:07:54.959
I'm always thinking of others, ironically.
00:07:55.379 --> 00:08:01.129
And I just remember saying, like, if you can guide me, I promise that I will, if I can find my way, that I will share with others.
00:08:01.180 --> 00:08:02.459
That was, that was my prayer.
00:08:03.060 --> 00:08:06.000
And you know, I hated reading, like, scientific literature.
00:08:06.194 --> 00:08:07.245
I really don't like it.
00:08:07.245 --> 00:08:14.805
Actually, it's not like the funnest thing for me and all this medical literature, which is ironic because I worked in the medical field for like two decades or more.
00:08:14.855 --> 00:08:17.894
And it wasn't particularly my favorite thing.
00:08:17.925 --> 00:08:22.865
And I got to see what went on behind the scenes too, by working with numerous doctors, numerous specialists.
00:08:22.865 --> 00:08:27.144
I mean, I spent decades working with people like this and I knew the system.
00:08:27.144 --> 00:08:28.095
I knew the way it worked.
00:08:28.165 --> 00:08:29.495
I knew the protocols.
00:08:29.954 --> 00:08:31.394
I was involved in that so long.
00:08:31.944 --> 00:08:43.164
And I saw that those roads don't really, let's just say that I wasn't impressed by what was going on in the medical field and the amount of money that people spend in the results or lack of, um, that people really get.
00:08:43.164 --> 00:08:47.355
So when it happened to me, I just thought, Oh, no, I'm going to have to go through this.
00:08:47.945 --> 00:08:51.264
And in the end, it's exactly what I thought would happen.
00:08:51.365 --> 00:08:51.835
The whole.
00:08:52.034 --> 00:08:54.585
You know, navigating the world of medicine was horrible.
00:08:54.585 --> 00:08:56.325
They pretty much did nothing for me.
00:08:56.335 --> 00:08:58.774
It was really frustrating, and I had to find my own way.
00:08:59.355 --> 00:09:10.164
And then that became frustrating too, because when you listen to like, I wanted to go all in on health, and I wanted to try to see if I could find my way back, because there is no life when you have no health.
00:09:10.195 --> 00:09:13.225
When you can't walk, You know, you can't really go to work.
00:09:13.274 --> 00:09:14.414
You can't go to the grocery store.
00:09:14.414 --> 00:09:15.764
You can't even go to the bathroom.
00:09:15.764 --> 00:09:19.875
Like I remember crawling, you know, I mean, I crawled to the restroom and so much pain.
00:09:19.875 --> 00:09:21.715
I mean, it was pure suffering.
00:09:21.794 --> 00:09:22.914
It was just pure suffering.
00:09:23.725 --> 00:09:26.595
And of course, I now value health a great deal.
00:09:26.595 --> 00:09:28.465
And so when I knew that I had to find my way.
00:09:29.350 --> 00:09:37.139
I was looking everywhere, including listening to some podcasts, and that's where things are really frustrating for me because you literally would have, I thought, Okay, what if I do everything?
00:09:37.259 --> 00:09:39.159
What if I do everything that everybody says?
00:09:39.669 --> 00:09:41.980
And somewhere along the line, I'm going to find the answer.
00:09:41.980 --> 00:09:46.169
And then when I do, I'm going to share with people, you know, because I knew that there was, Scam stuff out there.
00:09:46.169 --> 00:09:52.639
I just kind of already knew I knew people who had tried different products that really didn't lead anywhere or maybe there's a lot of worse.
00:09:53.090 --> 00:09:56.610
There's a lot of stuff out there, so I can only imagine your search.
00:09:56.929 --> 00:10:02.200
Um, and it seems like you narrowed yourself down to hydrogen water.
00:10:02.740 --> 00:10:04.919
Um, it's part of that,
00:10:04.919 --> 00:10:05.245
like.
00:10:05.835 --> 00:10:16.424
Well, it was part of it because I saw the scientific literature on hydrogen and I started reading through that and I honestly thought this, and this has been, this was over a decade ago.
00:10:16.445 --> 00:10:19.075
So, I mean, I've been reading, I know a lot about hydrogen.
00:10:19.075 --> 00:10:20.504
I mean, that's why they call me hydrogen man.
00:10:21.065 --> 00:10:26.424
And, you know, and there's a lot of stuff that I know about it that I've seen that the entire industry basically doesn't know.
00:10:26.424 --> 00:10:27.075
It's so crazy.
00:10:27.075 --> 00:10:30.384
There's a whole hydrogen industry and they're so wrong about so many things in my opinion.
00:10:30.865 --> 00:10:33.625
And of course I go of actual medical data.
00:10:34.000 --> 00:10:37.340
What professionals do in Japan because it's medically approved in Japan.
00:10:38.019 --> 00:10:42.379
So here I'm reading the literature before it was medically approved by the way So I'm reading literature.
00:10:43.149 --> 00:10:44.399
I literally thought it was a scam.
00:10:44.399 --> 00:10:57.649
I'm like this sounds way too good to be true There's no way this is true and I read it for almost four years I sound like I tried it right away And I I just got more desperate because my health kept declining more and it kept getting worse and I was like This is nuts.
00:10:57.649 --> 00:11:00.424
I cannot You know, I tried fasting.
00:11:00.434 --> 00:11:02.184
I tried changing my diet.
00:11:02.445 --> 00:11:04.985
I tried different cleanses, different waters.
00:11:04.985 --> 00:11:08.245
I mean, different supplements, different frequency machine.
00:11:08.264 --> 00:11:09.554
I mean, I tried machines.
00:11:09.554 --> 00:11:12.985
I tried so many different things and it really wasn't going anywhere.
00:11:13.024 --> 00:11:15.414
My, my improvement was extremely minimal.
00:11:15.414 --> 00:11:16.654
It wasn't changing my life.
00:11:17.524 --> 00:11:19.325
And then I finally was like, you know what?
00:11:19.355 --> 00:11:23.264
The reason that I was reading the literature on hydrogen, but not actually doing it is because.
00:11:23.929 --> 00:11:26.340
I'm thinking to myself, how in the world am I going to implement hydrogen?
00:11:26.340 --> 00:11:30.850
I really didn't understand exactly like, cause you know, there's more than one type of hydrogen too.
00:11:30.850 --> 00:11:32.679
So what type of hydrogen are we talking about?
00:11:33.039 --> 00:11:34.169
How do you implement it?
00:11:34.440 --> 00:11:35.470
What's the dosing?
00:11:35.690 --> 00:11:36.580
How do I make it?
00:11:36.700 --> 00:11:39.049
There's so many really complicated.
00:11:39.269 --> 00:11:40.429
Oh, it got real complicated.
00:11:41.490 --> 00:11:42.769
And nobody was talking about it.
00:11:42.950 --> 00:11:45.059
So I couldn't find one YouTube video.
00:11:45.059 --> 00:11:48.259
I couldn't find anything out there where anybody knew anything.
00:11:48.860 --> 00:11:55.690
And so I thought, oh my gosh, now I'm going to have to go and look for the, for the data, like actual medical scientific data.
00:11:56.179 --> 00:12:03.289
And that's actually one of the reasons I created my YouTube channel, because I'm like, look, if I've learned all this information, I can share with people so easily now that I know it.
00:12:03.659 --> 00:12:05.549
Where they would never be able to find this info.
00:12:05.629 --> 00:12:09.690
It's so difficult to find this information and the trial and error
00:12:10.179 --> 00:12:18.679
narrowed down to, because you spent like four years, you narrowed down to something, which it sounds like mostly Japanese based.
00:12:18.850 --> 00:12:25.230
Um, when you narrowed down to what you decided to do, um, was it, was it that machine?
00:12:25.230 --> 00:12:33.419
And I'm guessing that's what you, cause you mentioned the machine, um, before when we spoke, uh, spoke, spoke prior.
00:12:33.730 --> 00:12:36.850
Um, Yeah, let's get to, let's, let's get to the juice.
00:12:36.850 --> 00:12:37.659
So
00:12:37.659 --> 00:12:41.450
basically, basically I wanted to figure out, okay, how do I make this stuff?
00:12:41.580 --> 00:12:42.389
I can't go buy it.
00:12:42.929 --> 00:12:44.879
And so at first I started looking at a lot of equipment.
00:12:44.879 --> 00:12:47.389
I just kind of assumed that all the equipment was pretty similar.
00:12:47.389 --> 00:12:47.919
So what do I do?
00:12:47.919 --> 00:12:49.559
I start going and looking for the cheaper stuff.
00:12:50.139 --> 00:12:51.799
You know, because you're like, Hey, it's all the same.
00:12:51.799 --> 00:12:52.820
It's all making hydrogen.
00:12:53.470 --> 00:12:56.169
And as time went by, of course, I realized that's not the case.
00:12:56.200 --> 00:12:56.720
Um.
00:12:57.009 --> 00:12:58.460
All the equipment is not the same.
00:12:58.649 --> 00:13:00.059
Things like hydrogen pills.
00:13:00.289 --> 00:13:02.269
I'm definitely not into those for a reason.
00:13:02.269 --> 00:13:07.700
By the way, I'm not going to say what reason all because they're just that's a huge mess.
00:13:07.700 --> 00:13:16.000
All I'm going to say is that I saw lab reports of what's actually in them, and I do have some laboratory footage of some of them being tested.
00:13:16.549 --> 00:13:19.730
And after I saw what's in them, I'm like, there's no way I'm putting this in my body.
00:13:19.759 --> 00:13:20.610
This is ridiculous.
00:13:20.639 --> 00:13:23.210
And then And then that just went on in time.
00:13:23.210 --> 00:13:26.990
Like I saw a lot of these, actually, I found a lot of these like little bottles, like these things.
00:13:27.899 --> 00:13:29.480
And I thought, Oh, these are pretty cheap.
00:13:29.590 --> 00:13:30.759
You know, this would be great.
00:13:31.059 --> 00:13:32.659
Uh, definitely not after.
00:13:33.179 --> 00:13:35.159
For those that are listening, how would you describe that?
00:13:35.159 --> 00:13:37.720
I guess it's like a, like a hydrogen bottle.
00:13:38.179 --> 00:13:39.460
I guess they can search up
00:13:39.779 --> 00:13:40.820
hydrogen bottle, right?
00:13:40.940 --> 00:13:41.399
Yeah.
00:13:41.629 --> 00:13:43.019
And everybody always asks this question.
00:13:43.019 --> 00:13:43.940
I'll just answer it now.
00:13:44.379 --> 00:13:46.269
They're like, well, is there a good hydrogen bottle out there?
00:13:46.279 --> 00:13:48.399
There is no good hydrogen bottle out there, in my opinion.
00:13:48.529 --> 00:13:49.029
All of them.
00:13:49.039 --> 00:13:55.000
The reason is because they're actually inherently flawed, um, with the design of how they make hydrogen.
00:13:55.090 --> 00:13:56.970
You can make hydrogen numerous ways, by the way.
00:13:57.450 --> 00:14:00.919
And the way that it goes about doing it is not only flawed, these things are made in China.
00:14:01.399 --> 00:14:11.294
And what they do is, even when they claim that they're made elsewhere, I literally found out that they take the same metal, And they'll ship it to some other country and put it together there and say, Oh, this is made in the U.
00:14:11.294 --> 00:14:13.514
S., for example, when the parts in it are from China.
00:14:14.424 --> 00:14:16.965
And those parts have like plated metals.
00:14:17.514 --> 00:14:20.315
I don't know if anybody understands directly electrolyzing water.