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I did all this change and I woke up three years later and I felt totally different, but I didn't feel authentic and I didn't feel at home in myself.
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intuition that guided me into that company was telling me to, to leave one of the best companies in Sweden and one of the best jobs and do nothing for a while.
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And if I can leave something that good, That also means that other people could leave whatever they are doing.
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And that is frightening for people
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Welcome to the new age human podcast, where we have inspiring conversations with spiritual entrepreneurs in the areas of mindfulness, longevity, and innovative technology.
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And with that said, let's get to the show.
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All right.
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Today, we're talking with Sebastian Wendeus.
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This guy is a transformational coach, senior embodiment teacher and business transformation consultant.
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He is also the founder of Being Man.
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So if you consider yourself an entrepreneur with high empathy, looking to develop self connection and self leadership, You're not going to want to miss today's show.
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Sebastian, welcome to the show.
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Thanks for coming on, man.
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Thank you so much.
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Happy to be here.
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Yeah.
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It's, uh, it's funny because we had a conversation about like a week or two ago.
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And, um, you had an amazing story.
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And I'm like, this, this guy has been on a journey.
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And I love hearing about journeys and, um, you have an interesting business.
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You're helping a lot of people and I would love for you to share your transformational journey of searching within.
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And this way we can lead into unpacking that.
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Do you mind sharing your story?
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Of course.
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Of course.
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Yeah.
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Thank you.
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It's been a while.
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It's been a journey.
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So yeah, the journey started 20 years ago.
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So when I was 16 years old and I had this overactive thinking mind that just kept getting more and more out of control every week.
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I just knew I couldn't go in that direction.
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I knew I couldn't live like that.
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Uh, and I had this, uh, intuition that somehow I should be able to find a way to be comfortable in my own skin and easeful in my own being.
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But I knew I didn't, I didn't have it.
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So, and I looked at my parents, I was like, I don't think they have it.
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I looked at my teachers in school and I was like, they don't have it.
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where do I, how do I find the path?
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And I went to some internet forums, I found the whole world of personal development and self help.
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And that was my first First gateway drag into this journey.
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And I got obsessed with like the Tony Robbins and the NLP and a lot of the mind being based tools and, uh, changed myself totally over the next three years, you know, working on my self image, my goals, my beliefs, all of it just kept chipping away and changing and changing because I wasn't comfortable with who I was and how my, how I was thinking.
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Uh, I, you know, I did all this change and I woke up three years later and I felt totally different, but I didn't feel authentic and I didn't feel at home in myself.
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I just felt like a clone of Tony Robbins.
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And, you know, I just taking on like his beliefs and society's expectations of who I thought I should be.
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And I was like, damn, like, this is, is not me.
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I thought I was on the highway to everything there is in life, but I realized I was totally lost again.
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Uh, which was quite painful at the moment.
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Uh, I got one really good insight out of that though.
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Like, you know, first of all, those tools are powerful and used correctly.
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They can be really beneficial, on their own, they don't make the whole journey home to yourself.
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But then I also had a really interesting insight when I was just started out because I was changing all my thoughts thought, wow, okay, but who is.
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is the part of me that is looking at and changing all my thought patterns?
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There's got to be more to me than just my thoughts.
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like, oh yeah, there's got to be a way out of my mind because there's got to be more to me than just my thinking mind.
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And that was kind of like my first spiritual glimpse.
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That's interesting.
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Um, well, do you remember the trigger that got you to think that there's gotta be more than my thoughts,
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It was just, it was just an epiphany, right?
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I was just mixturing with my own thoughts.
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And you know, they're in NLP.
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There's all these techniques for like working with memories, with self, uh, images and beliefs.
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And you can do certain things to change them and install new ones.
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And I was like, okay, but there's a part of me that is installing the new one.
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So I cannot be the new one.
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Like it's just something I'm installing.
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right?
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that's cool.
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Yeah, that's definitely trippy.
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ha ha.
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ha.
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No, I agree.
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So, so you're, you're on this journey and you're like, I'm more than my thoughts because I'm pro I am programming, but who, who am I?
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That's interesting.
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Yeah.
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I mean, I've had the same, you know, thoughts for sure.
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Right.
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You're, you're the facsimile of, or like a shadow of the gurus that Had their own journeys and they're sharing what works for them.
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But now you're working on what works for you.
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So go ahead.
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I'm so I just had to throw that in there.
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It's, it's pretty cool to watch this or at least listen to this happen to you.
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amazing.
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Yeah, so then, you know, being kind of lost again and realizing that trying to change my thinking mind and push it down in my body and all my systems didn't work.
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I started to study psychology.
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I heard about mindfulness, and I read in a book, it was just a sentence, but it said something about happiness and flow and mindfulness.
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Yeah.
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I was like, happiness and flow sounds about right.
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That's kind of what I'm looking for.
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Like, what the fuck is mindfulness?
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I had never heard about it, like, you know, 17 years ago or something, uh, took an audio program with John Kabat Zinn, the American mindfulness teacher, and had a really, really profound experience just three weeks in where I just time and space dissolved.
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And I just felt fully at home in myself.
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And I was like, wow, there is such a thing as this easeful being in myself.
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uh, it felt so good.
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And as I was having that experience, and I don't remember if that lasted for two minutes or two days.
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I have no idea.
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But, I was like, okay, I'm not really ready to live like this yet.
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This is just a glimpse.
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And the experience disappeared a few days later and I got harder and harder to get back to it.
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I got obsessed with meditation because that is what brought me that experience.
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So I went to all the vipassana retreats I started to basically do eight hours of meditations a day home in my own apartment in Gothenburg.
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Because I thought it's only a two or three weeks away until I uncover that experience again.
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But those two or three weeks turned into two and a half years of eight hours of meditations a day.
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That is insane.
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Okay.
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Yep.
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So
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24.
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And, uh, it really helped me still, still in change my overactive thinking mind.
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Uh, but still even coming out of, on the other side of that feeling like more at ease and more in a tune.
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I was still lacking that felt sense of like, just, or knowing who I am or feeling like my own power or my own authenticity.
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I still feel blocked in so many ways.
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eight, hold on eight hour day meditations for two years.
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So you are meditating as a full time job, literally.
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Yeah, basically I went to, I went to university and took some easy courses so that I can get the study loan so that I can keep on doing my meditation.
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I was going to say like, when do you, like do you eat in between those eight hours?
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Like do you meditate during your eating?
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Cause traditionally, or what most people, especially on the, um, in the Western world, it's you're sitting down legs folded and you're just not doing anything.
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So I'm just curious during those eight hours, were you actively like being An active meditation where like you're eating, but that's still considered meditation because where your mindset is, I'm curious, like what was going on during those eight hours?
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It's been a long time.
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I think I usually shunked it up in two hours slots.
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Oh, okay.
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two hours, either sitting or lying down.
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So it could be body scans, it could be focusing on my breathing, there could be hardscape meditations.
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Okay.
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know, took a break and had food and went for a walk or did some school, like, study work or whatever, and then had another chunk, but, yeah.
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Now, now I'm digesting it.
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Uh huh.
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Yeah.
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Okay.
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For any, Yeah.
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For anybody that's thinking that, man.
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better ways, but
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Yeah.
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were the tools I had.
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It's wild.
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Right.
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Right.
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and I was so hungry for, for this experience that I just kept on shipping away with the tools I had at the time.
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Interesting.
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And so even eight hours a day, you still had some blockages.
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Something was.
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Like you said, right?
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You had some blockages, like just something was missing still, correct?
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Yeah, let me come back to that because that is really a big part of like understanding those blockages, but I didn't have access to what that was at that time.
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But after those years, I came out of 24, 24, 25 and, uh, quite good.
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I felt good in myself.
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I felt, you know, my mind was pretty much at ease.
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And I was like, okay, let's, cause I'm an explorer at heart and an adventurer.
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I was like, okay, let's, let's see what I can build in this external world.
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So business lifestyle and all of that, and went into the business world in a very entrepreneurial company in Sweden ended up in a key position of building what is now one of the leading consulting firms in the European Union.
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And, I was on a very exponential journey with that company and I was doing merger and acquisitions.
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I was buying companies of consultants and transforming that whole organization and businesses.
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And I had a lifestyle, you know, I spent a lot of money on dating coaches to understand women because I had some some holes in my understanding that I needed to learn and built a lifestyle that was global.
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And I just built this external, amazing, really amazing life.
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Wow.
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Mm.
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Mm.
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I had, you know, literally one of the best jobs in Sweden.
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I was 1 percent income earners.
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I was traveling the world, dating amazing women and I enjoyed it.
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It's not one of those stories where I was like, Oh, and I was empty inside.
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Like, no, I really enjoyed it.
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I especially enjoyed the adventure of building it.
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Uh, and yet still I was sitting there at 30 and I was like, can't be it.
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Like there's still something missing.
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Like it doesn't taste as sweet as it should taste.
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Um, about that time, I would say that's where my real journey started.
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I just met summer at 30.
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I just met my, one of my main teachers for the first time.
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I name is Judith Blackstone, and she's the of the Realization Process, which is this, modality of guided practices for cultivating deep internal connection with yourself throughout your whole body.
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And, um, and, uh, yeah, I'd been, I'd spent five days with her in the U.
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S.
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in a workshop, and I remember in that workshop I was after it that I had finally found a teacher and a modality that could guide me all the way home to myself and explain why I wasn't already, why I haven't been able to uncover that experience for so many years of trying.
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Interesting.
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yeah,
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So that was it for you.
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That was it.
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You like, you landed.
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So it was, it was sweet tasting.
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It was just the experience I had been looking for and it was just a new experience because I never knew what it would really look and feel like.
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Um, yeah, I for sure had that deep intuition sitting with her and experiencing her practices.
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came back, you know, after the summer break to work, after the vacation, and I just couldn't do any work.
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I just couldn't do what I used to be doing.
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I was like, wow, my head was just hurting.
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And, uh, yeah, I forced myself into it for a few months and then I was like, no, this is it.
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Like it's time to leave.
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Wow.
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intuition that guided me into that company was telling me to, to leave one of the best companies in Sweden and one of the best jobs and do nothing for a while.
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Like just see what happens when I leave and make space for something new.
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So wait, you left that job without a plan or, or you left, or was it that you left the job Open for a new plan.
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Like you didn't leave it for another one.
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Like that, that was your income and you were doing fantastic financially.
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Very interesting.
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Right.
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Yeah.
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That process, what did your boss say?
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Like what, what was that conversation?
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Like,
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Yeah, it was very hard for, uh, people to understand because everybody assumed that something bad had happened
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yeah,
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like, how could you, how could you not, you know, why are you leaving?
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And I was, my plan was to take six months to a year off and, and live on, saved money and, uh, you know, see what comes up next.
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I knew that if I would choose my next thing right away, I would be something similar.
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And I wanted to get like the 3d 360 view of like, what can I, where can I go from here?
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Just because I became good at this doesn't mean that that is what I should be doing the rest of my life.
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And, uh, yeah, it was really hard.
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Of course, um, the CEO and the company tried to make me stay or offer me different ways of, you know, being, staying in the company.
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And yeah, it was mostly triggering for most of the other people who knew me because they were like, okay, are you something bad happened?
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No,
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not really.
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Uh, are you starting your own company?
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Like, are you, are you going to like a better job?
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I was like, no, I don't know.
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Maybe like, I don't know.
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they just, it just irritated them.
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I actually, after saying that for a few times, I changed my way because people got so frustrated because I think partly it was because I had something that many, many people strive to and I choose to leave it.
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And if I can leave something that good, That also means that other people could leave whatever they are doing.
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And that is frightening for people.
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That, that's like, wow, I could be, maybe I should think about what I want to do.
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So after, you know, saying it for a few times, I was just like, yeah, I might, I will probably move abroad or start my own company.
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I was like, oh, okay, I don't want to move abroad and I don't want to start my own company.
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Okay, I don't have to think about this more.
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Good for you.
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Good luck.
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yeah, that's interesting.
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You're like, all right, I got to come up with a story just because they keep.
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And did family do the same thing?
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I can only imagine.
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I mean, I've taken quite extreme journeys already.
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So they were like, Oh, okay, cool.
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Like, yeah, you know, I'm such, I'm on such a different journey than my family.
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Like they were like, okay, like I guess you figure it out.
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So you've, you've taken so many chances and done okay that they're just like, Go for it.
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You know, he, he's going to do that thing again, go for it, which is, and and, um, I do want to point out that, um, like you said, there's a lot of people that we get the same story or we get told.
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Uh, the same path, right?
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Just when you go to school and then you, uh, take a, uh, like a college course or even, uh, just a technical something and the education continues into a landing point for a job.
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Very few times you do hear like, go and find yourself.