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Subconscious mind holds so much inside of us.
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And as we release it, our world changes My dad was very short tempered, so I was very used to walking on eggshells.
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Both my parents were alcoholics.
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I woke up one day when I was 19 and found my mother dead on the bathroom floor.
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And that was like the big trauma, but, but I was programmed as many of us are just to suppress everything and carry on with life.
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And that's what I did.
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So I didn't know that all that trauma was still affecting me.
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Welcome to the new age human podcast, where we have inspiring conversations with spiritual entrepreneurs in the areas of mindfulness, longevity, and innovative technology.
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I'm your host, John Astacio, and I'm on a mission to help humanity discover our human potential so we can together create positive change.
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And with that said, let's get to the show.
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have, uh, I have a feeling we're going to go on a very interesting journey today with my friend here.
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Ann Hince she has the ability to fix herself with her mind.
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Like that's, I had this whole fancy intro.
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I'm like, you know what, let me just tell you what's going on here.
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She has x rays to show the physical changes resulting from her inner work, including changing the alignment of her eye sockets.
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Straightening her neck, the centering of her lower jaw, and the growth of her tooth roots.
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She also has grown three fourths of an inch at the age of 56.
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I'm actually Interested in that one a lot because I always joke around.
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I'm like, I still have more height to grow.
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Uh, if anybody knows me, I'm, I'm, I'm considered short.
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So without further ado Ann Hince, welcome to the show.
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How's it going?
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Good.
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It's great to be here, John.
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Thanks for having me.
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I'm excited.
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I, the second I, I.
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You popped up on my feed here.
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I just felt the the feeling of being able to just be goofy and and just being natural.
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So there's there's some really good vibe going on here.
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How about you?
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Yes.
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I think it's going to be great.
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Okay, so you can fix yourself.
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That's insane.
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Uh, what?
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Where did this start?
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Like, did you always knew you could fix yourself and you started doing it or did something happen and it triggered this like superpower, so to speak?
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Absolutely not.
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I had no idea that what I can do now was even possible.
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Never even occurred to me.
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I was just looking for inner peace because I was so stressed all the time.
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I was so reactionary that I had to change.
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I knew I had to change.
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So that's what started my journey.
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My goodness.
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So you, you said you were stressed and you were looking for calmness.
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What was caused before we get into what happened afterwards?
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What was causing, if you don't mind sharing, what was causing that stress?
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Well, of course, at the time I didn't know what was causing it.
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I have no idea how much my childhood was still affecting me.
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But I had lots of things in my childhood that, you know, potentially could affect me and did.
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My dad was very short tempered, so I was very used to walking on eggshells.
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Both my parents were alcoholics.
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I woke up one day when I was 19 and found my mother dead on the bathroom floor.
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Oh my God.
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And that was like the big trauma, but, but I was programmed as many of us are just to suppress everything and carry on with life.
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And that's what I did.
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So I didn't know that all that trauma was still affecting me.
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Wow.
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How old were you when you.
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Discovered that, that was affecting you and, and was that a suppressed memory that came up?
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It was my late thirties.
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Hey, hey
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Took a long time, but yeah, it was an event.
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It was what I call a business altercation with two other mothers at my boy's school.
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They told me I had done something wrong and I could not stop my mind spinning.
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It just went over and over everything I'd said, what they'd said, what I did, what I could have done differently.
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I could not stop it spinning for three days.
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And at the end of that, that's when I realized, okay, this is not normal.
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And it also made me realize it felt a little bit like how I would react when my dad would tell me I'd done something wrong.
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So that was the first little opening, little inkling that maybe my childhood was still affecting me.
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Hmm.
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So you had this altercation and you're like that.
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Oh, that's interesting.
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It's, it's like, it's almost like it was building up and then it took that, that was it, the needle that broke the, uh, the camel's back or the straw that broke the camel's back.
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You were just kind of like simmering.
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And I feel a lot of us are, are at that part or have the potential to be there, you know, just like just that, that last nerve
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Right?
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a great awakening.
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we're, so filled up with all this tension that we haven't released.
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So it just takes one thing to set us over the edge and then, yeah.
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So, so you went home and, you know, your mind was racing and then how did you find that place of just release?
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Well, that was the kind of point where I knew I had to do something.
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But I didn't know what to do.
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And it was in that time frame that I went to a doctor's appointment.
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And he was a holistic physician.
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So he had more tools in his toolbox than many doctors do.
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And he knew I was stressed.
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He recognized that I was stressed.
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I wasn't going there for stress.
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I don't remember why I went to see him, but he recognized I was stressed because I was a stay at home mother with two healthy young boys.
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So it shouldn't have been too bad.
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I know having kids is not easy, but I was more stressed than I should have been.
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And he asked me on a scale of 0 to 10 what my stress level was, and I said 8.
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And then he asked me why.
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And it was that question that made me realize, oh, it was finding my mother dead on the bathroom floor when I was 19.
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Because the tears from that event, which was two decades prior, were still just under the surface all those years later.
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I hadn't dealt with it.
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And he happened to know this technique that is called EFT, which is short for Emotional Freedom Technique.
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It's also called tapping.
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because we're tapping on Meridian, the end of the Meridian systems, as we're talking something through.
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So he tapped with me about my mother's death for about 15 minutes and I walked away with that, from that appointment, being able to tell the story of her death in my mind for the first time ever.
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And that's when I realized we hold all those memories and those emotions physically inside of us and that we can let them go.
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And that was eye opening for me.
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That, that was the beginning.
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Wow.
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So, you were tapping alongside, like you were tapping yourself and he was like, like, um, he was pretty much directing you on that tapping experience, right?
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right?
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It's always the same points that we tap on with EFT.
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So you just have to learn the points and then you, then the words become important because the words you use bring up the emotions in the body and the tapping releases the energy from the nervous system.
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So he took, he tapped on himself while I tapped on myself.
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He just showed me the points and we talked through finding my mother.
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We talked through that event.
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And then we went back to the beginning and we talked through it again.
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And each time you do that and you tap through it, the subconscious mind starts to open up.
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So more details of the memory become available to us as those deep emotions start to release.
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So I didn't undo the whole event just in that 15 minutes with him.
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I actually went home, I learned how to do it myself because it was given away by Gary Craig for free.
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So anyone can learn it online.
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Learned everything I could.
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And I actually wanted to try it out.
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I tried it out because I have an engineering background.
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I was a software engineer.
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I like to know something works and I don't want it just to be one one time fluke.
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So I had a 17 year old cat at home at the time and his kidneys were starting to fail.
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So we'd been told we had to give him a daily saline shot, like an injection of saline solution.
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And I hated needles.
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It was so scary for me.
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My hand was shaking.
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It's like, it was just, I knew I couldn't do it every day.
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So I thought, well, let me try out this technique.
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So I did.
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So I tapped about it and I tapped about every aspect of it, which is something you do with EFT.
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So I tapped about my hand shaking.
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I tapped about my fear of hurting my cat with the injection.
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And I tapped about all the memories from all the injections I had had in my lifetime.
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And the next day.
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When I gave him that shot, the needle just slid right in.
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All of that fear that had been living inside of me the day before had totally gone.
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So that's when I realised that the freedom I was searching for inside, that inner peace, was on the other side of all those emotions, all that fear that I'd been storing inside of myself.
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And that's when I really started to use it on a daily basis.
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thought you were going to start tapping the cat real quick.
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Um, well people do that
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That's very interesting.
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So moving forward, I want to start getting into the physical changes that you had.
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Cause I know that we started with that and I'm, I'm pretty sure, uh, it's, it's a lingering thing that people are wondering about what was the journey on finding out that you can do the physical changes now.
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Okay.
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Well, I have to go through my story in order to get there because it's all about expansion or deepening of self-awareness, right?
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So, as I was doing this EFT work, I tapped through all my traumas.
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I went back, I wrote everything down, and I tap through one each night for about an hour to an hour and a half each night.
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And my self-awareness deepened.
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So, I became aware of my emotions first, then I became aware of the physical sensations underneath the emotions.
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So, like, frustration.
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When we're feeling frustrated, we're actually holding tension inside of our body somewhere.
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And it might be different for each person.
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But for me, I can feel it in my ribs, in my solar plexus area.
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So We call that frustration, right?
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So we kind of dissociate from those physical sensations by using the word frustration.
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So we're going backwards in that process.
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We become aware of those physical sensations.
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Then I focused on the physical sensations themselves.
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I didn't need to use EFT.
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I just felt those sensations and they released, right?
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With focused attention, just on the sensations, not trying to change them in any way, just allowing them to be there, they would release.
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That's like a, like a Chinese finger trap scenario.
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I don't know what that is.
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Oh, where you have your fingers caught in this like little trap where it's like, uh, you're both your pointer fingers go in and you have to naturally you would want to pull them apart.
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Right?
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So I'm thinking like the analogy with having something in your body that you feel that's not supposed to be there.
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Naturally, you're trying to get rid of it.
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And instead of that, you just let it be and the finger trap, you just kind of let it be and just get it you instead of pulling it to get out of it, you have to go in to get out.
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So it's it's the way that it's structured.
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So horrible analogy if you don't know, but it's it's interesting how you just again that the the theme of letting it be is Very, it, it pops up a lot in these conversations with, uh, with knowing yourself and being mindful.
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Right?
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is, but, but I think a lot of people still bypass it or suppress it, right?
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I've really tried to work out why I've been able to do what I have compared to other people who haven't, right?
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Because I haven't talked to anyone yet who is able to do what I'm able to do.
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And the key difference is that part.
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It's the accepting how we're feeling right now,
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Hmm.
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even with EFT, like going through my mother's death, I'm bringing the memory back to my mind.
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and the sensations in my body and, and the tapping is just accepting them as they are and that releases.
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So even right deep in my side, inside my skull, which is where I'm working now, I just feel that tension and I focus on it.
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And when it's had enough attention, it releases.
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Interesting.
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Interesting.
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It's well, it goes along the, uh, idea and understanding that, uh, specifically traumatic emotions, high emotions get stored in the body if they're not, uh, dealt with and you're just.
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you're identifying them and you're saying it's okay.
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Do that, that tension that you run into it when you feel that wherever it is on your body, do you run into like a lot of pushback emotionally?
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Like the, does the emotion that's attached to that, whether it be anger, fear, um, hate, just a lot, you know, the negative ones, the one that it is maybe, Holding onto.
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Does, do you have to face that when in your experience?
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In my experience, yes.
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And it is only the negative ones that are stored in the body as tension.
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The positive ones are not stored the same way.
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So let me just quickly finish my story.
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The three kind of steps of my story, because that became so obvious to me once I got to that third step.
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So at the second step, I'm just feeling the feelings and allowing them to be.
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So it might be emotions, right?
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If I just bring emotions.
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And a memory to mind that has emotions and I feel the emotions that works too.
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Right.
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And just allowing myself to feel sad or to feel frustrated.
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If I can focus on the tension itself, that's a deeper level of self awareness.
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So I would do that.
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Once I'd done all my childhood traumas with EFT, I would lay on the sofa and I'd bring collective traumas to mind.
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Things like nine 11, right?
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Everything I went through that, that Loma Prieta earthquake that I was in, just bring those memories to mind to just allow all those.
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Emotions that had been suppressed, just allow them to release felt really good because it'd been stored for a long time.
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At some point during that process, I was laying on the sofa, just doing this work.
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I realized I could keep my awareness inside my body after the tension had released.
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Now, it felt very different and I didn't know if I could do it a second time.
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So I tried and I realized they could, and then I started to play.
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Thank you.
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You know, I didn't know what I was doing.
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So I was trying to work out what I could do.
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So I realized I can move my awareness around inside and I could find a place with tension versus a place with no tension.
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So I would find a place with tension and I would focus on it.
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Now this whole process, my ability to focus had improved, right?
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So I could focus more with a laser beam.
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At this point,
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Hmm.
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would focus on it, just feel it, just allow it to be there and it would release, and then I would do it again and again and again.
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over time, I was able to put my awareness inside my head.
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It took many, many months and it was crazy when it happened because the amount of pain and tension inside my left cheek was just unbearable.
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That's when I realized it had been there my whole life because I was born with my right foot up against my right shin.
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So my whole body, my whole torso was twisted, torqued.
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And I think kind of that's where it stems from.
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You know, the twist is from my left cheek all the way down to my right foot.
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Huh?
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And that pain was so intense, and to realise it had been in my subconscious mind the whole time but had not been aware of it.
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Right, so it made me realise how much we hold inside as tension, as, which is, the negative emotions and the tension are kind of one and the same thing, they're totally connected inside.
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And it is all tension, we're just not aware of it at the beginning.
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Like we think it's a memory or we think it's an emotion, but actually inside it is a form of tension.
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And we can get to the place where we can recognize and feel that tension.
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And when we do that, when we're able to focus on the tension itself, the memory will just pop into our mind and just disappear.
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Because it was there.
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It was attached to the tension itself.